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Real Estate Boom Incoming!🚀Propy CEO INTERVIEW · The Paul Barron Crypto Show

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  Speaker 1: Is the real estate boom incoming. Today we'll be breaking
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  Speaker 1: down all of that for you and how it applies
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  Speaker 1: to the crypto market. My name is Paul Barrel. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: Let's get going into it today. I want to start
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  Speaker 1: with some things that are starting to flow into the market,
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  Speaker 1: and one of the things I want to show you
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  Speaker 1: here is the Florida housing market. Now, this is just
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  Speaker 1: showing you in comparison to the average Florida home value.
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  Speaker 1: I know that's kind of high, but that's Florida. But
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  Speaker 1: it's down, you know, considerably, and the value starting to
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  Speaker 1: plateau right here. That's the kind of thing that is
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  Speaker 1: starting to maybe shift a little bit if you look
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  Speaker 1: at it right here, the housing market overview. There's the
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  Speaker 1: media and sales price, but the number of homes sold.
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  Speaker 1: Look at this dip right here. This is the point
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  Speaker 1: in which the least number of days on the market
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  Speaker 1: is like around twenty days around twenty twenty two, mid
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  Speaker 1: mid twenty twenty two. It's spiked up in February of
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  Speaker 1: twenty three, and then here we are February of twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: almost eighty days on the market. That's the difference here, guys,
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  Speaker 1: is that we are seeing a market that is slowing
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  Speaker 1: right now. And if it's happening here in Florida, which
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  Speaker 1: is one of the lagging markets that's already started to
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  Speaker 1: see this nationwide, some of the regulatory alignment could be
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  Speaker 1: a big factor here. I want to go to this
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  Speaker 1: clip right here of Ron de Santis kind of speaking
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  Speaker 1: to the point of property tax.
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  Speaker 2: Take a look.
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  Speaker 3: We would end up with about one thousand dollars in
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  Speaker 3: property tax cut for every homesteaded Floridian and that will
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  Speaker 3: make a big, big bin. But authorizing a nice crisp
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  Speaker 3: doze effort for local governments where you'd be able to
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  Speaker 3: look at the payments, the contracts and then publicize this
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  Speaker 3: because if you look at the budgets, it's very opaque.
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  Speaker 3: I know we want to get on the ballot, but
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  Speaker 3: we have a chance to do this this year's man,
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you first of other realtors, I mean you guys,
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  Speaker 3: would you would boom like never before? I mean, are
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  Speaker 3: you kidding me? This would be really good?
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  Speaker 1: All right? So, speaking of real estate, I have to
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  Speaker 1: bring on one of the experts that's been on our
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  Speaker 1: show before, and that is Natalia coming in from Propy.
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  Speaker 4: How are you good?
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  Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me, Paul.
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  Speaker 1: Nice to see you again. We've had you guys on
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  Speaker 1: the show before. You guys want to check out that video,
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  Speaker 1: you can go back and just search Propy. You'll find it.
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  Speaker 1: But give me an understanding and some of our new
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  Speaker 1: people that are watching right now and listening. What is
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  Speaker 1: Propy and how does it apply to the cript market
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  Speaker 1: and the real estate boom that could be incoming.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely, So PROPY is very much focused on automation of
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  Speaker 6: the real estate transaction. We're utilizing smart contracts and AI
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  Speaker 6: to automate the real estate transaction and actually address the
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  Speaker 6: affordability because today consumers are losing a lot of money
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  Speaker 6: when they're buying homes in different fees and the speed
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  Speaker 6: is high and so on. So speaking of affordability and
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  Speaker 6: the mobility of the new generation when they want to
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  Speaker 6: move to where the jobs are within the states and
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  Speaker 6: they want to get into home ownership, whether it's tax
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  Speaker 6: decrease or other incentives and interest rate.
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  Speaker 5: To be lower.
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  Speaker 6: The transaction fee also the big segment where we can
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  Speaker 6: help the consumer, the American home buyer to save and
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  Speaker 6: make this decision easier for them to get into home
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  Speaker 6: ownership to buy a new hole when they move from
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  Speaker 6: one state to another. So that's our mission to make
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  Speaker 6: the real with it closing very fast, very user friendly,
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  Speaker 6: so that the new generation is not afraid to get
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  Speaker 6: an ownership with the lack of this unnecessary bureaucracy, so
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  Speaker 6: it's easy to buy a home as it's easy to
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  Speaker 6: buy a crypto today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I think the key here is disruption because
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  Speaker 1: we are seeing a bit of a change here. If
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  Speaker 1: DeSantis is successful in lowering property tax in Florida, this
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  Speaker 1: would have an immediate effect on home sales, which could
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  Speaker 1: generate right into what you're talking about in terms of
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  Speaker 1: getting more transactions into crypto. I was looking at a
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  Speaker 1: Twitter post you guys put up here. This is just
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  Speaker 1: showing the Q one properties gain game changing wins you
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  Speaker 1: guys have done. Let me kind of zoom in on
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  Speaker 1: that start, but I can see record breaking a quarter
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  Speaker 1: in terms of transaction revenue, so that's good. Launched the
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  Speaker 1: first ever bitcoin backed real estate loans, so that's been done,
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  Speaker 1: and then you have also been closing real estate day
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  Speaker 1: transactions including Hawaii. So, first of all, with some of
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  Speaker 1: those things that you guys have hit on right now,
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  Speaker 1: the last time we had you on it was very
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  Speaker 1: early in your journey of kind of bringing this into
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  Speaker 1: the market of real estate. How do you feel like
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  Speaker 1: the market is right now in terms of accepting what
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  Speaker 1: you guys are trying to do.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we definitely have been very busy since our last
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  Speaker 6: show together, and it's a tremendous opportunity for us when
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  Speaker 6: the markets are down to really focus on the excellence
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  Speaker 6: and operations.
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  Speaker 5: So today we operate as a licensed title.
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  Speaker 6: Company in Florida, Arizona, and Colorado and about five more
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  Speaker 6: states are coming by the end of the year.
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  Speaker 5: And I think the best.
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  Speaker 6: Testimonial for us is by regular clients, not necessarily crypto natives,
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  Speaker 6: but regular clients who are using and choosing Properit Title
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  Speaker 6: as their title company they buy a home. And the
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  Speaker 6: best estimonial is on Google reviews. We have all five
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  Speaker 6: star reviews from multiple buyers and realtors that are happy
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  Speaker 6: that we provide this transparency with twenty four to seven platform,
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  Speaker 6: but also security when we use blockchain to secure every
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  Speaker 6: single step of the transaction and they're paying us in
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  Speaker 6: dollars through why transfers. But the beauty of our settlement
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  Speaker 6: producol is that we've built numerous integrations with banks, online payment,
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  Speaker 6: with the recording with counties and others. So yes, Q
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  Speaker 6: one in twenty twenty five delivered all time high and
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  Speaker 6: transactions and volume. Our team is doing great. We're about
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  Speaker 6: forty people today, so I'm very very proud of everything
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  Speaker 6: that the Proper team was able to deliver.
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  Speaker 1: So, Natalia, what is the current status right now of
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  Speaker 1: bitcoin back loans that could be utilized in real estate purchases.
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  Speaker 1: Has there been any any expansion, any expansion in terms
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  Speaker 1: of the banks and or financial institutions or just crypto
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  Speaker 1: companies that have said, hey, we want to jump into this.
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen any new players coming out.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a great question with kind of a positive story,
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  Speaker 6: but also a cautionary story behind it. Obviously, as Michael
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  Speaker 6: Sailor is saying, bitcoin is pristine collateral, we all believe
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  Speaker 6: in this use case where you could use your crypto,
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  Speaker 6: whether it's x RP, Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, and you could
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  Speaker 6: use it as a collateral to diversify your investment and
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  Speaker 6: get into.
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  Speaker 5: Real world assets such as real estate. So for the
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  Speaker 5: first time in history, we were able to.
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  Speaker 4: Deliver an own chain loan that would execute as a
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  Speaker 4: loan only if the realty transaction is closing smart contracts,
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  Speaker 4: so it's all executed automatically, and now.
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  Speaker 6: The homeowner is able to wait for the appreciation of
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  Speaker 6: their bitcoin but also have exposure to real estate. The
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  Speaker 6: caveat here back to your question is that the traditional
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  Speaker 6: players are not ready to use bitcoin as a collateral,
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  Speaker 6: while the crypto native lending platforms are not ready to
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  Speaker 6: accept real estate traditional assets as a collateral.
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  Speaker 5: So we've been.
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  Speaker 6: Educating both the largest mortgage companies as well as the
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  Speaker 6: largest crypto lending platforms, and I think we'll soon have
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  Speaker 6: some news in this opportunity to scale. But so we've
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  Speaker 6: been educating, and before we reach this equilibrium of understanding
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  Speaker 6: that both assets are digital secure and could play a
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  Speaker 6: role and should play a role as a collateral. Before
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  Speaker 6: we see that, we will not observe of the scale.
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  Speaker 6: But it's coming, and we had a number of conversations
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  Speaker 6: not only with those institutional players I mentioned, but also
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  Speaker 6: with the quasi governmental institution that are getting there into
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  Speaker 6: their understanding. We've been even advocating for mortgages to be
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  Speaker 6: approved for crypto natives that own bit coin, so that
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  Speaker 6: the coin based statements to be approved for acceptance as
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  Speaker 6: a proof.
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  Speaker 5: Of funds for mortgage applications.
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  Speaker 6: So we've been advocating it not only for the proper
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  Speaker 6: user benefit, but overall for the American home buyer, because
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  Speaker 6: I want to remind the listeners here that in twenty
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  Speaker 6: twenty two, twelve percent of first home buyers in America
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  Speaker 6: used cryptocurrency to back their down payment. So the new generation,
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  Speaker 6: they choose crypto, they choose real estate, and it's time
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  Speaker 6: those two accets to merge.
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  Speaker 1: Coinbase, which is one of the most you know, their
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  Speaker 1: sponsor to show one of the biggest platforms out there.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people are carrying balances both in coinbase,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's USDC, even the dollar, or in crypto assets,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm surprised that banks are not using that as
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  Speaker 1: a validation of funds. Are you telling me that that's
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  Speaker 1: not happening today.
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  Speaker 6: It's not happening today, but it's coming. And again on
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  Speaker 6: our site, we've been advocating and educating both the DC
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  Speaker 6: Legislation Group as well as Freddie Mac fundi MA Leadership
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  Speaker 6: group so that they look at it. And I think
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  Speaker 6: it should come as a community effort, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 6: the coin based community is doing that as well as
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  Speaker 6: we do it. It all comes to the security and
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  Speaker 6: trust to allow first of those approvals to come through,
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  Speaker 6: and of course coinbase has this reliable source of statements
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  Speaker 6: of KYIC and mL procedures that could be sufficient enough
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  Speaker 6: for the risk management of mortgage providers banks that are
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  Speaker 6: actually reliable on the Freddie Mac and Fendiminal.
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  Speaker 5: Rules, so back it goes back.
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  Speaker 6: To them to start doing those exceptions at first before
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  Speaker 6: it comes standard.
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  Speaker 1: Today, I noticed that you have some Grant Cardon listings
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  Speaker 1: listening with property. Are you finding that maybe getting guys
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  Speaker 1: like Grant and other big real estate investors to start
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  Speaker 1: utilizing this tool would validate that for maybe the bankers,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the industry itself, especially going forward. Does
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  Speaker 1: that help do you feel?
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  Speaker 6: I think any story that gets attention to the consumer
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  Speaker 6: and media, and then those champions within big organizations they
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  Speaker 6: also pay attention.
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  Speaker 5: And when you.
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  Speaker 6: See stories like real estate and bitcoin come together, whether
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  Speaker 6: at the Grand Cardon or other influencers, it just drives
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  Speaker 6: attention to the whole space. Because the space is growing.
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  Speaker 6: It's not only bitcoin back loan. It's not only listing
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  Speaker 6: your property, your luxury forty million dollar property willing to
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  Speaker 6: accept bitcoin. It's an array of things such as escro
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  Speaker 6: vsmar contracts such as fractional ownership. And it's not only
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  Speaker 6: properly that is tackling the space. So as soon as
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  Speaker 6: we grow together and help each other to put this
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  Speaker 6: voice out, I think a lot of players, institutional players
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  Speaker 6: are paying attention and they're getting mature you know, Paul,
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  Speaker 6: when we started in twenty seventeen, most of our conversations
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  Speaker 6: with institutional players and legislators were about what is blockchain,
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  Speaker 6: why it's a mutable, what is crypto?
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  Speaker 5: It's all shady.
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  Speaker 6: So all the.
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  Speaker 5: Hours we've spent on education was about.
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  Speaker 6: The legitimacy of the space. This is no longer a
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  Speaker 6: point of conversation because legitimacy is here. The high level
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  Speaker 6: education of why bitcoin and blockchain matter is already there.
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  Speaker 6: Now we're getting deeper into applications, into use cases such
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  Speaker 6: as proppy use DC and everything that other successful crypto
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  Speaker 6: companies in America are doing. And of course, with the
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  Speaker 6: new administration being so procrypto, it only helps.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go back to Florida for a second,
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  Speaker 1: because there is a bit of a unique shift that
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  Speaker 1: is occurring in Florida that will most likely cause a
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  Speaker 1: lot of real estate to be open on the market.
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  Speaker 1: One is this whole idea about registering Canadian the snowbirds
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  Speaker 1: that are coming in here, because remember the whole issue
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  Speaker 1: in Florida right now, I'll just read this warm and
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  Speaker 1: sunny Florida, Great White North. This is all the people
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  Speaker 1: that are coming down here. Last year, around three point
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  Speaker 1: three million Canadians came down and about twenty seven percent
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  Speaker 1: of our overall international visitors coming out of Canada. So
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  Speaker 1: the key is they own a lot of homes here,
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  Speaker 1: and we are now seeing a large amount of those
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  Speaker 1: homes being listed on the market. So all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: we've got a boom in available property that we did
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  Speaker 1: not have here in Florida. So this could open up
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  Speaker 1: some opportunity. Like what you're saying is you know there
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  Speaker 1: just wasn't any houses available. But I want to get
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  Speaker 1: to the point of where regulation could be playing into this,
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  Speaker 1: possibly with a new governor incoming. And this next clip
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  Speaker 1: is Brian Donalds who's talking about what he could do
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  Speaker 1: here in Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Take a look. Let's make Florida the financial capital of
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  Speaker 2: the world. Bigcoin will be a part of the state's portfolio.
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  Speaker 2: We will cut the commercial lease tax ease rules and
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  Speaker 2: lead and blockchain and crypto.
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  Speaker 1: He seems to be very pro blockchain. This could be
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  Speaker 1: good for you. Is there a regulatory framework that you
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  Speaker 1: would say, Hey, if we could get these things done
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  Speaker 1: in the state of Florida and show the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the country how to do this, what would they be.
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  Speaker 5: Oh definitely yes.
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  Speaker 6: And we've been talking to a number of legislators not
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  Speaker 6: only in Florida local counties, but also in DC which
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  Speaker 6: I was honored to be the reception after the famous
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  Speaker 6: Scrypto summit at the White House and also participating in
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  Speaker 6: the Digital Summit with the Milken Institute. And we're entertaining
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  Speaker 6: five ideas on what some of the states could be
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  Speaker 6: the first ever states to introduce to set the example.
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  Speaker 6: One of them is an obvious one. Let's allow counties
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  Speaker 6: to record deeds on blockchain and also make sure the
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  Speaker 6: history of the title transfer also is recorded on blockchain,
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  Speaker 6: so we will need less paperwork for transfer and also
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  Speaker 6: it's more secure to store title this way.
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  Speaker 5: The second one is ensuring.
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  Speaker 6: And kind of requesting the es pro process to be
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  Speaker 6: happening in the smart contract, which would address the fraud
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  Speaker 6: risk because Florida unfortunately is flourishing in terms of the
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  Speaker 6: fraud cases in comparison to the rest of the country.
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  Speaker 6: The other point that we're working on with the other
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  Speaker 6: states representatives are aligned on the first ever AI agent
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  Speaker 6: to take over of a closing process in real estate
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  Speaker 6: where you trust the processes and the current regulation to
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  Speaker 6: allow an AI agent to process the transaction, of course,
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  Speaker 6: initially with the help of a human licensed professional, but
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  Speaker 6: eventually it will be a case where Florida or another
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  Speaker 6: state will allow this fraud fraudless way of transacting real
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  Speaker 6: estate and a number of other ideas.
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  Speaker 5: That were entertaining it.
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  Speaker 6: And it's all to the benefit of the local homeowner
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  Speaker 6: to save on fees, to make transaction more secure, and
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  Speaker 6: to make it also very easy and understandable for the
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  Speaker 6: foreign investor. Historically, the foreign investors in Florida buying real
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  Speaker 6: estate war for Latin America. Then it was the Canadian
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  Speaker 6: wave and I've observed it in the past with Bulgaria
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  Speaker 6: where I established my real estate development company.
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  Speaker 7: So it was a wave of UK investors and the
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  Speaker 7: wave of Lat lat Fair investors. So Florida is one
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  Speaker 7: of those states that will keep having those cycles of investors.
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  Speaker 5: Given this tremendous growth both.
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  Speaker 6: In Miami infrastructure and housing as well as the Tampa area.
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  Speaker 6: Amazing tremendous growth. I think will yet to see a
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  Speaker 6: lot of new countries to invest but also the talent
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  Speaker 6: right because Miami now is developing into a new silicon.
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  Speaker 5: Valley momentum area.
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  Speaker 6: So more talent and more kind of investors will come
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  Speaker 6: into the space, and we need a very user friendly
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  Speaker 6: way to allow them to invest in real estate. Having
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  Speaker 6: said that, we don't need any specific regulation to keep
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  Speaker 6: flourishing and thriving in Florida. Historically, when we launched here,
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  Speaker 6: Floridians were very receptive to proper title and again you
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  Speaker 6: can see all those five star reviews on Google in Florida.
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  Speaker 6: But some items definitely could help us grow even faster.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think the key here is once that you
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  Speaker 1: get framework from a regulatory standpoint starting to align, and
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  Speaker 1: it appears that we have that now with obviously the
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  Speaker 1: Trump administration, but possibly with some key states. Texas most
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  Speaker 1: likely will be a leader. I know you guys are
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  Speaker 1: in Florida, but all right, listen, Natalia has been good
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  Speaker 1: seeing you, and I think the interesting thing is as
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  Speaker 1: we start to see some growth here within blockchain in general,
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  Speaker 1: real estate is a natural next evolution. So if you
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  Speaker 1: guys want to learn more about Proppy, you guys can
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  Speaker 1: Thanks again for coming in today. We appreciate it.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you, Paul, You bet all right.
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