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No Smoke Without Fire- The Green King Part 5 · UK Column Radio

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Good morning. Well, it's great to have you all back with us.
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So it's a big hello from Debbie Evans and myself, Brian Gerish, welcome
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back to the Green King. I think we're up to episode five, but
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I am going to say very gently that we had a little bit of a
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glitch with our numbering system and there's been some parts that you may have seen
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on screen for the previous ones. We're going to stick with this one at
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episode five and just continue with the episode numbering. The other thing we'd like
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to say before we get going is that Debbie and myself have been really surprised
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and very thankful for all the wonderful emails that people sent in because the moment
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one of the episodes has gone out, we've had a stream of emails on
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a daily basis of people saying how much they've enjoyed it, how much the
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series has made them think, and for some people, oh my goodness,
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I had no idea what he's up to. So Debbie, that's a really
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wonderful bit of feedback from our audience. Good afternoon, Well, good morning,
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good afternoon, wherever you are where you're watching. But honestly, I
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think I describe it as overwhelming. I mean, I've just been overwhelmed by
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the incredible response that we've had from so many people. And you know,
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I'm just so glad that people are enjoying it, because we're living in dark
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times at the moment, and some of this material is dark. But we're
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enjoying it as well, aren't we. Brian. You know, we've lit
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that match. We've lit the fuse already four times. We're ready to light
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it again. And thank you, just thank you to everyone who's sending us
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information. And I think it's important to say that all the information you're sending
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we are collating and going through. And this is number five. With all
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the information we're getting in, Brian, this is going to carry on,
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isn't it. Well, indeed it is, and we can't reveal all the
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secrets. But actually, earlier this morning, we were having a look at
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our research, particularly Debbie's research about King Charles, and there is so much,
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as Debbie has just said, there's so much for us to cover up.
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We can see that we're going to just keep going with this topic and
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it's going to get more and more interesting. Now, Debbie, before I
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let you loose, I just wanted to put a couple of the books up
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on screen that I've mentioned before because color members of the audience have said,
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what were those books who will rule the new world order? Prince Charles The
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Sustainable Print Print by Villon, and this is the other one, The Prince
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and the Paranormal The Psychic Bloodline of the Royal Family by John Dale. I'm
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going to read, if you bear with me, a little bit about a
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little bit out of Joan Villon's book, Prince Charles, The Sustainable Prince,
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just to show you the connectivity between the research that Debbie has been doing and
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people that have been looking at Charles in the past. So this is chapter
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eight of that book, Prince Charles The Sustainable Prince, and the sub section
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is corporate Governance and it says this. Although the Prince of Wales Business Leaders
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Forum was established in nineteen ninety it was not until the President of the World
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Bank, James Wolf and soon met the Prince in New York in July nineteen
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ninety six that a more formal alliance, we are told was begun between the
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two. At the September ninety ninety six Annual Meeting of the IMF World Bank
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a workshop on corporate governance was conducted. During a telephone interview with James Newston
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from the Prince of Wales Business Leaders Forum on September ninth, nineteen ninety seven,
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I was told that the Forum had signed an alliance with the World Bank
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in early nineteen ninety seven. So remember that's the Prince of Wales's Business Leaders
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Forum had signed an alliance with the World Bank in early nineteen ninety seven.
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This alliance is a three year research project being undertaken by the Forum with the
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Bank and the United Nations Development Program. And what were they doing. Well,
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this is what Joan tells us, to identify, analyze, and promote
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examples of how business is working in partnership with public sector institutions, non government
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organizations another private sector enterprise to play a creative and positive role in the process
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of development. And I just thought, Debbie, that paragraph was so telling,
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because here he was just casually setting up a quick alliance with the World
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Bank and the UN and it's all about change, and he's in the driving
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seat. It would appear as you do. I mean, you know,
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this is just what you do, isn't it? And I thought it does
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it dovetails really really well into all of this research. Just dovetails really well.
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But I'll have to say, I don't know if the lovely Stephanie Sinclair,
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our wonderful producer, can go back to that first screenshot. Prince Charles,
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the sustainable Prince. I just want to say a couple of things about
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that, because who are we talking about sustaining here? Sustaining Prince Charles is
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what I think, because these sustainable goals and these sustainable initiatives that he's so
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promoting, what is sustainable about the United Kingdom? For example, at the
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moment, we've got a health system that's unsustainable, that's been made unsustainable deliberately.
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We've got a cost of living that's been made unsustainable deliberately the whole country.
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We've got a food production there's unsustainable because deliberately they're destroying it. So
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who are we actually sustaining here? Is it the king and the royal family
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and the nobility in the elite because I'm seeing him setting up an empire for
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a very selective few. Well, I'll just add to that when you talk
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about, you know, the destruction of the UK, which you know,
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we could talk about for a long time, but I think most people are
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aware of the sense it's o K or some breakdown. But in the revolutionary
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change model, you have to destroy the olds before you can bring in the
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new. And there's a there's a quote. I'm sorry, I don't know
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where it came from, but it's the revolution eats its young. So the
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revolution sets up people to create this change. Everything will be better under the
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new regime in the future, but actually before you can get there, you
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have to destroy what's in existence, and then you actually also destroy the people
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that help you create the revolution in the first place. But I think that
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King Charles is heavily in bed with revolutionary change. That's just my two pennethworths
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to start today off Derby, Oh, destroy first, and then who was
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it that started off that phrase build back better? If we go back to
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what was it, No Smoke three, perhaps episode three The Green King,
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we were talking about the fact that it was Charles that actually coined the phrase
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build back better back in two nineteen. So in order to build back better,
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whether that be humanity, humans transhumans, or whether it be the planet
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returning it to biodiversity, you have to destroy it first in order to build
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back better. Yeah. Well, okay, that's been our little introduction today
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just to get people thinking. And we'll say if you're new to this topic
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altogether, please do go back to episode one and catch up with us,
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because there's been a lot of material covered. But is it true to say
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that we've moved through Charles what he's up to with his connections with a range
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of organizations and people, corporations, non governmental organizations, think tanked charities.
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We've talked about some of his spiritual connections, but actually when you get in
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some of his spiritual stuff, it seems to get a bit darker. And
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you've got an interesting video clip I think for us. Well, you know,
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we finished we did a lot in episode four on the Commonwealth and Cansuck,
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and I just wanted to refresh people's memories a little bit as to the
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last Commonwealth Games that was held in Birmingham. And I'm sure many of our
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viewers and listeners will remember it's and the involvement of the then Prince Charles.
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But I've got a little bit of video that I thought might just remind people
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it is time now for the twenty twenty two Commonwealth Games opening ceremony. Here
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at the Alexander Stadium in Birmingham, the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of
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Cornwall to represent her Majesty the Queen. Tonight now a time to meet Stella
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and the Dreamers, and they're going to meet some of the key figures from
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Rom's history. But of course, for all the color and noise, the
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character the invention, there was a dark side to the industry of the revolution,
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a darker side to the bull rings, the beat pounds. To remind
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us of the relentless drive of industry, they drag a beast, a bull
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ten meters high. It's an enraged by justice. Bull rapes free and causes
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pandemonium. Balls were beated and sold here in the city century for centuries.
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It's not that we're going to be up to Stella and the Dreamers to try
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and hold the bull. Stella offers friendship and compassion to team. The beast
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now gives me the greatest pleasure to declare the twenty second Commonwealth Games open.
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Wow. So but but you know it was interesting because they said, you
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know the dark ages, Well, there was quite a lot of dark stuff
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I think that went on in that opening ceremony, and we can't show all
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of it, of course, but I've just taken a few screenshots and you
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might just like to talk through them, Brian. Two close up shots of
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the bull. So we've were on the left, we've got the lady finally
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taming this raging bull. But then we've got everybody sat down in a circle
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around the bull. It's almost as though they're worshiping the bull. And can
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I just add, I cannot believe that Charles would attend this event and take
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part in the opening ceremony unless he actually knew what all this symbology was really
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about, symbology that wasn't declared in any detail to the public who were watching.
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Yeah, well, yes, absolutely, one hundred percent. And of
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course let's not forget he drove himself there in his aston Martin, which is
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previously said the fuel should be champagne. Well fine, I think so.
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I mean, this is all ostentatious. Yeah, and you've got another one
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of the building on fire. Here is this destroying the older I wonder,
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well, I mean to me, I mean, this was the opening ceremony.
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This was taken from the opening ceremony, and to me it looks like
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the Tower of Babel I don't know about you, but it slightly resembles the
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Tower of Babel to me. But I mean, you know, clearly when
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you look at some of these opening ceremonies, and even if you go back
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to the London twenty twelve Olympics, we all remember the empty NHS beds and
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Voldemore and all the kind of dark stuff that was going on. So you
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know, the Royal family, they must know, they must know the symbology
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if we do and we can see it, surely they can. They're there.
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Yeah. Plus, he's into some rather, he's interested in some rather
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dark stuff. This was a thing that captured my interests with the book,
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The Prints and the Paranormal because although in some ways there isn't a lot of
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detail in the book, there's enough and there's enough historical factual information to show
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that there's been a trema relationship between members of the royal family going back over
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many years and occult practices including Ouiji boards. But he's also been pretty close
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to the dark. Sorry, Charles has also been pretty close to the dark
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stuff. Oh well, he wouldn't want you to think that, but of
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course, of course, But I mean, I thought to myself if I
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was. And I asked you, Brian, you know, in one of
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our phone conversations, I said to you, if if somebody was interviewing you
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and they asked about your spiritual, mystical, whatever beliefs, what would you
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say? And your answer was exactly the same as mine. And we would
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be talking about our spiritual faith in God Jesus Christian terms, right, And
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I thought I'd just go back and research, go back and look, and
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I found this archived interview that took place with the then Princess of Wales,
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Prince Wale, Prince Prince Charles and Princess Diana together and just keep an eye
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on the body language as well as you watch. Have a look. Does
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that extend to your interest in spiritualism risticism? Well, yes, absolutely,
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again it's it's it's entirely. I think I've been riveted by the by the
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way in which all this has developed, because I have seen articles shown to
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me saying that I play with wigi boards, which I don't even know what
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they are. Literally, I've never seen one, and I, you know,
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and I spend my entire time apparently trying to get in touch with normal
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and battened them all sorts of other people. The answer is I don't nor
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would I necessarily want to. In all stem from might as well said will
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emphasize it because I've fed up with getting letters from people all the time saying
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don't touch the weedia boards and it's bad for your health. And it all
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started because I happened to be read mayer of the author Arthur Kurstler, a
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great man I think is a brilliant writer and above all else a scientist really,
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and he is, you know, left a bequest in his will.
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I hope you don't mind me going on and blood this saying that when he
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committed suicide with his wife, that this money should go to found a chair
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for the study of parapsychology in a British university. And so I ultimately,
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as Chancellor of the University of Wales, wrote to the Vice Chancellor when there
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was a severe danger of no university taking up this offer, and did go
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into this United States and said, you know, I urge you to apply
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for this. It would be a great pity to lose it because it's an
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interesting area to study scientifically, and to my amazement, the university council agreed
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made the application In the end they went successfully and went to Edinburgh University.
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But there was a certain amount of publicity about the fact that I suggested this,
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and it stemmed from that. But what I find so annoying is that
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it should be reduced again to this level of total absandity. I'm not interested
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in the occult or dabbling in black magic or any of these kind of things,
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all for that matter, strange sort of forms of mysticism. I am
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purely interested in being open minded. I mean, after all, there so
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many inventions and things that have happened and been proved scientifically in the past,
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which everybody totally pooh pooed before they were proven, and I think that it
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is an area which is worth studying sense and within the right scientific bounds.
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Now there is one area where I suspect there's one architect who doesn't think you
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have an open mind, and that's when you have spoken about the extension of
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the National Gallery the car Buncle. Now is it part of your job to
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start controversy? I think say, as long as it's not part of political
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controversy. I mean, I open myself, don't I Every kind of accusation
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I'm only too aware of that, and I don't do it like I take
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a deep breath, a very deep breath, because I know what's going to
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happen. It's just that I feel that certain things have to be said.
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And if you skirt around the issues all the time, how do we ever
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get anywhere in life? Do what I mean? And I just feel sometimes
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not too often, I can throw a rock into a pond and watch the
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ripples create a certain manner discussion, hopefully to try and see whether something better
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can come out of it. Ultimately, Well, Debbie, it's incredible,
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isn't it When you see clips like that. There's so again in that single
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clip, there's so much we can talk about. But one of the things
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that just smacked me, smacked me straight between the eyes, was you know,
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I don't get involved in things political, but he's drowning. We're now
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demonstrating this man is drowning in politics, not only national politics, but global
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politics. So that one is very interesting. But his denial of what he
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doesn't get involved in the book about the Prince and the Paranormal demonstrates that actually
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he's been involved in a lot of stuff which people and I'm going to push
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at this point, who are devout Christians should be saying, what on earth
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is this man playing with? You? Just don't go near any of that
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stuff, do you. You just don't, especially if you're the head of
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the church being, and if you're a Christian, you just don't. But
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I thought what was interesting was he said, I don't know what weedia board
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would be, Well, why are you talking about them? Then? If
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you don't know what they are, why are you even talking about them?
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And did you notice when he said I don't do black magic, I don't.
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I don't do it any don't have anything to do with black magic or
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the occult. He immediately folded his arms, which is to me, I'm
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not a body language expert by any child, by any stretch, But when
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you see people suddenly close their arms like that, fold their arms, you
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think, oh, you know, you notice it, don't you? And
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I thought maybe because I was kind of a similar age to Diana, and
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I didn't notice it at the time, but you know, to see her
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sitting there, she almost looked like a child. I mean, I know
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she was almost a child bride. She was nineteen, I think, but
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she looked so young, and that struck me as well. Looking back.
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Yeah, so a pretty strong denial of anything wrong. But yeah, why
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would you be so sensitive. Well, we've put a couple of books for
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people to read if they want to go in a slightly different direction to find
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out about Charles. So this brings us back onto the subject of the Commonwealth,
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I think, which is as we are read very briefly, yeah,
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really really briefly, because I just want because this was kind of new news,
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and I just wanted to slowly because we are going to get a little
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bit darker and we're going to go to the people that Charles surrounds him hit
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himself with. But just to interrupt that with this little bit of news that
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came out. So I noticed this that the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting is
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going to be held in Samoa in this year, in October October the twenty
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first, And then I suddenly saw an article just recently because as we know
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now you know, the King has got a diagnosis of cancer and he's been
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out of the public eye and he's been receiving his chemotherapy. However, this
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article appeared in the Evening Standard, which suggests that he's raring to go on
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a turn o. Less to Australia. But what I've found interesting about this
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article was the way that he'd said he can't hang about, he can't hang
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around, and he's desperate to go on this state visit. But it all
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ties in very nicely October, doesn't it with the Commonwealth Head of Government meeting,
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which he is determined to attend. So I just wanted to throw that
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in because that's kind of like new news bringing us up to date. I
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thought that was an interesting interesting I just thought it was interesting. You know,
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this man's got cancer. He can't allegedly got cancer, he can't appear
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in public in the UK, he's recovering, and yet he's really desperate to
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get to the Heads of Government meeting where he says he's going as head of
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state and what he's involved in his world politics, that's why he's desperate to
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go. I think, yeah, I mean, well watch this space.
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I wonder what's going to happen in October. That seems to be quite a
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It's going to be an interesting month, especially with the elections coming up as
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well in November. If we get to a US election, of course,
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But I mean that was just to throw that in. But I promised everybody
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that we'd get to who surrounds our King. And perhaps I know a lot
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of our members and viewers want us to talk about the Rothschilds, don't they.
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Okay, well you've got a video clip. I think I have a
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little bit. Let's have a look better in modern Jewish history. And it
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begins with words, Dear Lord Rothschild, Dear Lord Rothschild, I have much
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pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's government, the following
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Declaration of Sympathy with Jewish Zionist Aspirations, which has been submitted to and approved
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by the Cabinet. Why was it that this letter was said by the Foreign
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Secretary to your great uncle Walter. It's an interesting question because it was primarily
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a movement from Eastern Europe, but they didn't clarify who was in charge of
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that movement. And in addition, it was after all in Great Britain,
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so they felt that the Rothschild family should be the one to whom it was
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addressed. And Walter was Lord Rothschild, and he was as honest, and
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those rarely are the background reasons. So Walter received the Balfour Declaration and I
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have a copy here, and I wonder if I could possibly ask you to
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read it for us. Yes, indeed, yep, I'm going to put
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on more spectacles to make sure I read it accurately. His Majesty's government deal
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with favor the establishment of Palestine if a national home for the Jewish people,
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and will use that best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it
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being clearly understood that nothing should be done which may prejudice the civil and religious
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rights of existing non Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status
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enjoyed by Jews in any other country. I should be grateful if he would
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bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zonist Federation. Yours Arthur Balfour,
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and here it is the Balfour Declaration. What do you feel when you see
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it here? I've genuinely feel it's one of the most extraordinary moments in the
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history of the Jewish people. If you think it took three thousand years to
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get to this, and then you say how did this miracle happen, it's
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the most incredible piece of opportunism. I mean, if you think you had
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an impoverished would be scientist High invitesman who somehow gets to England, meets a
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few people, including members of my family, seduces them. He has such
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great charm and conviction. He gets to Balfour and he unbelievably persuades Balfour and
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Lloyd George, the Prime Minister, and most of the ministers that this idea
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of the National Home for Jews should be about to take place. I mean,
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it's so so unlikely it is. And then he starts to fight a
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difficult battle with the British cabinet. And this letter goes through five drafts,
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as you know, and in the end it comes out as a rather compromising
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letter. I mean, the es central point is there for the Jewish community
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to fasten on to. You have the first bit, which promises a national
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Home rather than the National Home, and then you have the bit that nothing
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that's to be done should in anywhere harm the Arab community. But you come
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back to the big point, which is that this is perhaps the greatest event
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in Jewish life for thousands of years and cut off in his prime. But
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the point was there a Debbie absolutely, And again, my goodness, there's
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so much to talk about in that just picking out a couple of things.
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So we are led to believe that there was a movement connected with the Jewish
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community in Eastern Europe, but nobody was in charge. It was all just
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a bit vague. And then I can't remember the gentleman's name who comes across
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to England, and Rothschild says, he gets he gets to England. He
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just somehow gets to England. And then what a strange what a strange expression.
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He seduces uses the people he comes into contact with. Does he mesmerize
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them? He seduces them? And Lord Rothchild was saying that it's all very
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unlikely, absolutely right, it's unlikely, because the more he described the process,
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the more unlikely. It seemed to me that this was just some amazing
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accidental event in history. Five drafts of the letter, and then the last
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bit is so poignant, isn't it, Because he points out that the homeland
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for the Jewish people is created on the basis that there's to be no harm
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for the existing Arabs living in that area. And here we are in twenty
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twenty, twenty twenty four, where I'm not sure what the figure is now
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for girls or alone, but thirty five thousand plus people killed. So that
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would say to me, surely Israel must be in breach of the Balfour Declaration.
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But we're heading in a slightly different direction over to you. We are.
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But but I thought it was very relevant to bring that in because of
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that at the moment, the days that we're living in at the moment.
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And you know, that was Jacob Rothschild who's just recently died. But when
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we start looking and I have been looking at the Rothschilds family and it is
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a phenomenal history. When you look back and you see the spread of the
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five sons to different places and the intermarrying, marrying within you know, cousins,
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nieces, nephews, it's quite extraordinary. But I just want to bring
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your attention to Charles Rothschilds. He wasn't really interbanking so much. He was
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really into nature and science and conservation. So let's look a little bit more
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in depth at Charles Rothschild. He was responsible for setting up the first nature
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reserver Wick and Fen. He promoted the Society for the Promotion of Nature that
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was the forerunner to the Wildlife Partnerships, and he was responsible for the roths
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Child List, which was a list of two hundred and eighty four precious sites
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and sites that needed to be preserved because Charles Rothschild's very much into the environment,
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as you can see. So this is where it all started with the
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Rothschild list, and you can see there that he had a daughter, Miriam
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Roth's child, and when you look at Miriam Roth's child, you can see
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that actually she was responsible pretty much for the King's Garden and for rewilding wildflower
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meadows and restoring life and species diversity. So we've got a heavy involvement,
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as we know, with the Rothschilds. But I know that our viewers and
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listeners are probably saying, do you remember that picture of I think it was
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Evelyn de Rothschild poking that then Prince Charles in the chest, looking very much
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as though he was in control. You remember that one, don't you,
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Brather? I absolutely do, because it's such a telling image. Who has
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we'll call it the self confidence first, self confidence and clearly the power to
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back that self confidence up to poke Charles in the chest like that, somebody
30:41
who has no worry about who they are. The finger comes out and he
30:45
gets stabbed in the chest. Very telling image. Money all to do with
30:52
money again. But you know, we'll come back to the roths Childs,
30:57
because I mean, we will come back. But let's just look at a
31:00
few of the people that the royal family liked to keep company with. Shall
31:07
we just a few of them? Well, we got the first one on
31:11
screen, and of course it's Rolf Harris. Yes, he painted the Queen's
31:15
portraits. And for viewers and listeners abroad that may not know the history of
31:22
Rolf Harris, but he was jailed for was it child abuse or was it
31:29
I can't remember the charges? Yes. And the other bit I want to
31:33
comment on this debbie is that the image of the of the Queen that he
31:37
painted was very controversial. Many people found it actually quite an offensive picture because
31:45
it was just not of the normal sort of accurate portrait style. One could
31:53
say it was impressionism, but if it was his impression of the Queen,
31:57
there were a lot of people who thought it was rather dark. Yeah,
32:01
so we've got a celebrity because Rolf Harris celebrity there. Now let's go to
32:07
the church. So who else have we got surrounding the royal family. Well,
32:12
here we've got Bishop Peter Ball, the former Bishop of Gloucester, former
32:15
Bishop of Lewis in decent assaults on boys, former Church of England bishop who
32:22
describes Prince Charles as a loyal friend. This company, eh Charles eventually gave
32:29
this man accommodation on one of the estates for him to actually stay in.
32:37
It's not looking good, is it. But it's just it's not just the
32:40
faith. It's not just religion. It's his own family. Let's look at
32:45
his own family. There you have Lord mount Batton. Yeah, and the
32:49
headline is Lord Mountbatten abused boy eleven in children's home. So we've got quite
32:57
a lot of dark company. And of course then there's his brother at the
33:01
King's brother. Let's not forget Prince Andrew, and of course the huge ongoing
33:07
Epstein case. Yeah, and this is remarkable because it calls this meeting with
33:15
Epstein and Andrew took place in New York. I think they were in Central
33:20
Park at the time, and Jeffrey Epstein had been convicted at that stage.
33:25
It wasn't as if Andrew didn't know. He must He clearly did know.
33:30
But yeah, no, no, no, he did. But it was
33:32
the gentlemanly thing to do. Remember the interview. It was the honorable thing
33:37
to do to go to see him in person because it was a place to
33:42
stay as well. I mean, really, I cringe when I think of
33:45
that interview. And we haven't even got to the Prince Andrew interview yet,
33:49
but I mean, one of the most prevalent ones. Let's go to Jimmy
33:54
Saville, because I know everybody's going to be saying, well, why aren't
33:58
you shown Jimmy Saville. We're going to be showing a bit of Jimmy Saville,
34:00
aren't we. Yeah, what an exclusive from the Mirror here. Prince
34:04
Charles wanted Jimmy Saville to be Prince Harry's godfather, It's been claimed he said.
34:10
Charles allegedly included the pedophile in a draft list of potential godparents weeks after
34:16
his second son, Harry, was born in nineteen eighty four, and that
34:21
article was by Russell Myers, the Royal Editor. Presumably he was close enough
34:28
to the family to know what he was reporting. I think we're going to
34:32
find that well, you know, patterns, let's look at patterns. We'll
34:37
come to that in a minute. But there's quite a lot. I mean,
34:39
I was shocked to be honest, Brian. I mean, you know,
34:44
we all will here in the UK. We all know the significance of
34:46
the Savile Charles connection. We all know that. But I had no idea
34:52
until I started actually looking how many times he'd met him, And I mean,
34:59
here you can see, you know, it's shocking. He was an
35:04
advisor. He was an advisor to the King and even wrote guidance for the
35:07
Queen. Yeah program, Saville produced a pr handbook for royals, some of
35:15
which was passed on to the Queen. Prince Charles repeatedly sought the advice of
35:20
Jimmy Saville, who was later revealed to have spent decades sexually abusing women and
35:24
children, even going so far as to take his suggestions to the Queen.
35:29
A documentary has claimed, Now, some people would say, oh, well,
35:32
the trouble with Charles is that he's a little bit he's a bit of
35:37
an eccentric, he's not that bright. But the episodes of The Green King
35:40
to date that we've done, Debbie, absolutely show a different man. This
35:45
is a man actually with a very sharp intellect, who's got his nose in
35:51
all sorts of things, politics, rewilding, sustainable goal, all of this
36:00
stuff. So this isn't a man who is likely to miss something. No,
36:07
No, absolutely not. And you know many people do say to me,
36:09
oh, you know, eccentric talking to plants and he has these weird
36:15
ways. Yeah, I'm sure he does. But he spends a lot of
36:20
time reading and he's, like I say, he's a political businessman, he's
36:23
a sales he's built this whole empire in all of these years that we've been
36:30
watching him as the air in waiting, it's all been a deliberate ploy to
36:35
build up this agenda. I'm not saying he's done it on his own,
36:37
because he couldn't possibly have done it on his own. But you know,
36:42
I've spoken to people that have said, well, you know, is he
36:44
kind of a victim of this? Is he has he been groomed? And
36:49
is he the bit will? No? Because he's gone through How old is
36:52
Charles now? Seventy six? You know he was heir to the throne for
36:55
fifty years. And I'm sorry, but if if something appears a bit dodgy
37:01
during that time, you get to know about it right and you step away
37:06
from it. You walk away from it if you don't like what it is,
37:08
or you discover something bad about the things that you're doing, or an
37:13
underlying agenda. But he doesn't ever step away. He steps further in.
37:17
He wants more. He embraces the statue, the Savior of the World statue.
37:22
He enjoys it all. So for anyone to say that this isn't deliberate,
37:28
I would challenge that, because clearly we're seeing evidence that this is a
37:32
very deliberate plan to asset grab as much land and wealth as possible for him
37:40
and the nobility and those that have got like I call the Williwanka Golden Ticket
37:46
to the Brave New World. Yeah. So he's got Jimmy Sevil around him,
37:52
and you've got some images. Here's just stressing this. I mean,
37:55
these have been all over the press, they were for for many years,
38:00
and we can see the close and happy, smiling relationship. It's all happy,
38:06
it's all jolly. But it shows that Saville was remarkably close to him.
38:10
Saville was of course invited into the royal estates and the royal homes.
38:15
This wasn't a relationship that sort of just popped up at one period. This
38:20
is a relationship that developed as time went on. But of course the other
38:23
thing is that Charles had his raw protection team around him and that was a
38:29
mixture of special Protection officers and special branch at the time, and their job
38:35
was to make sure that nobody dangerous ever came near him or other members of
38:39
the royalty. So what are we saying that the rural Protection team had no
38:45
idea about the background to Jimmy Saville. I'm going to say to our audience
38:51
that simply cannot be true. But have a look at this one from the
38:54
Mail Online. So this is dated the fifth of October twenty five. Fourteen
39:00
Police admits they were told Jimmy Saville was a pedophile a decade before he was
39:07
exposed. Surrey Police admitted they were told Saville was a pedophile in two thousand
39:12
and three. Journalists called with information that a victim had been abused, but
39:17
the force did nothing with the tip off and no crime record was created.
39:22
Now I'm going to say, well, what a surprise the police did nothing.
39:27
But if questions just come up on the screen as well, because we
39:32
asked at the time this came up, what the NSPCC Children's Protection charity was
39:39
doing about what was going on around this. Maybe we'll have to do that
39:45
separately another time. But if anybody says, oh, well, the police
39:49
knew, but they didn't do anything and that was the end of it.
39:52
No, that's not how the system works. The police knew and the fact
39:57
that Savell was doing what he was doing have gone into i'll call it the
40:01
gossip chain around the police, and it will be inevitable that the Royal Protection
40:08
team would pick up on that gossip and so they did nothing as well.
40:15
And later on we were to learn, of course that the security themselves knew
40:21
what was happening but did nothing. So this is an incredible story. Let's
40:25
turn it around the other way. It's just my question, was Savile being
40:29
protected because he had a relationship with a royal family. That's a rather more
40:35
interesting question. Answers on a postcard, please everybody. Yep, So another
40:43
male headline here, but it says BBC reporter who tried to expose Jimmy Savills
40:49
scandal claims he has now been forced out of his job along with other colleagues.
40:54
On the right side of the argument, and this is Mariyn Jones says
40:59
that whistleblow were forced out by BBC bosses. Well, you know that's let's
41:06
say that's a claimed headline, that's a claim. What real investigation was done
41:12
to follow up on it. Now we know what we do about Jimmy Saville.
41:15
And here's a timeline that's come up on the screen. Starting in twenty
41:21
ten, former BBC Director General George Entwistle is sent an email telling him about
41:27
the real truth about Peterfoil Jimmy Savell and it goes right the way through to
41:32
December the nineteenth, twenty twelve, where Peter Rippons replaced as editor of Newsnight.
41:38
So a complete cover up by the BBC. But as we've just shared
41:44
with our audience, the police knew way before that what Jimmy Saville was up
41:49
to. It's pretty incredible, yeah it is. But you know what's interesting
41:53
about the whole Jimmy Savell thing is at least it came out right. So
41:59
that's why we've got all of this news now and we know who Jimmy Saville
42:04
was, what he was responsible for. I mean, I'm sure there's much
42:08
that will still come out and much that we'll never find out because it was
42:12
so big, but we found out because it was splattered all over the mainstream
42:17
media. And remember, you know, Prince Charles, as he was then
42:22
was considering using or asking Jimmy Saville to become Prince Harry's godfather. Well,
42:31
the reason I say it's a pattern is because let's look at who else very
42:37
quietly supports the then Prince Charles, and let's meet Prince William's godparents. And
42:45
I want to introduce you to Laurence van der Post. And not many people
42:51
have heard of this man at all. So there's an article in the Guardian
42:57
that has a pretty telling headline, which was that Laurence Vanderpost was a writer,
43:01
war hero and guru to Prince Charles and Margaret Thatcher. But says his
43:07
biographer JD. F. Jones, he was also a compulsive liar whose hatred
43:13
of Mandela proved a threat to South Africa's future. But if we go on
43:17
a bit further into that article, there's so much, There's so much to
43:22
say, So I want to just basically summarize a little bit about Laurence Vanderpost.
43:29
So he was one of thirteen children, and he was the thirteenth.
43:35
He was a South African writer, but he was a spiritual mentor for Prince
43:42
Charles. So he was the spiritual mentor for Prince Charles. He died in
43:46
nineteen ninety six, and he was said to be a very colorful character,
43:51
really colorful, but a complete fantasist and actually a liar. And it turned
43:54
out that he was a liar. But he had a secret, and the
43:59
secret he was desperate to keep that never really came out until after his death
44:06
was that he'd had an illicit affair with a fourteen year old and had had
44:12
a child with this fourteen year old, and this was all kept a secret.
44:16
It was a girl called Karie Mostat. She came forward revealing her underage
44:22
mum had been seduced by Lawrence Vanderpost on a boat trip to England. But
44:30
he was absolutely terrified all his life that the truth would come out. He
44:35
spoke regularly to Margaret Thatcher and advised her during the Falklands Conflict. He embellished
44:44
every story that he told. He served in the Second World War Ethiopia,
44:50
Western Desert and Burma. He was captured in Java by Japanese and held for
44:55
three years, which fascinated Prince Charles. And after the war he served with
45:02
no nobody answers Mount Batton, would you believe well, yes, you probably
45:07
would believe. And after that he headed an expedition to Botswana, wrote loads
45:15
of books. But he's also he kind of maneuvered himself in as a great
45:21
friend of Sir James Goldsmith. And we'll be coming onto the Goldsmith connection in
45:25
a minute. But go on, well, no, I was just going
45:30
to say he was a big He said he was a great friend of Jung.
45:37
He was, This was his best mate. He made it all up.
45:40
He hi met him very very late in life and farming and Tetbury and
45:51
it all comes back down to the Queen Mother and Bow's Lion. I mean
45:54
that the history around Lawrence van der Post is for nominal and yet nobody's talking
46:00
about it. But basically one of Prince William's godfathers was a pedophile, Yeah,
46:07
a pedophile. I was keen to get in there because I got to
46:12
put the book up on screen, The Prince and the Paranormal again, because
46:15
the opening chapter is called Secret Safari and this goes back to nineteen seventy seven
46:23
when Vanderpost took the very very young childs into the bush. This was in
46:30
Kenya. Took him into the bush for seven days, and a lot of
46:35
people close to Charles said, whatever happened on that trip, and what were
46:39
they supposedly doing going back to basics in the bush? So they weren't going
46:45
to take any Western comforts. You slept on the ground, You had to
46:49
have a fire at night and take it in turns to stay awake and keep
46:53
watch in case some wild animals were going to come around. But the public
47:00
never really knew what took place in the seven days when Vanderposs took Charles into
47:07
the bush. But they say that when Charles came back he was different and
47:12
he never went back to being the young man that he was previously. So
47:19
we've got this really strange individual who has got the power to take Charles into
47:27
the bush. And I believe, I believe this is right that there was
47:30
no security team with him. He completely left the itinery of his visit to
47:37
Kenya and he disappeared off into the bush with this guy. And then when
47:40
he came back, he was Wow, he was a different man. Well,
47:45
I mean, you know, if you start to dig around in what
47:52
went on with Charles, there were other trips as well. I mean,
47:55
that's going to be probably another no smoke secret trips within this country to secret
48:01
destinations and he's led a pretty secret life. But Lawrence vander Post, he
48:09
also wheedled his way into becoming neighbors to Lillian Bow's Lyon, who was a
48:16
cousin of the Queen Mother. So you can see the way that he was
48:21
getting into pretty much everyone. I mean, I've looked for videos. There
48:25
are many videos online of Lawrence vander Post, but I just wanted to show
48:30
our audience just who he was. So this is just a little snippet of
48:35
him talking about Young. But don't forget he's a fantasist and he's also a
48:39
liar, and I I did. Inhabitant sixty one, the sky suddenly darkened
48:45
over the laked Gusnacht co incidence, for Young had always been full of of
48:51
me. Just over ten years ago, almost to a day, Doc Jung
48:59
died in this house. Then, as now, it seemed as if nature
49:07
recognized the event. A great thunderstorm swept over Zurich. Lightning crashed and destroyed
49:16
one of his favorite trees in the garden just over here where he used to
49:22
sit, And it was symbolically in the unconscious of hundreds of people who had
49:30
known him and read him, as if a great ship had gone down and
49:37
dragged towards it like flotsam and jetsam on the sea. All sorts of strange
49:44
dreams and portents to accompany the event. But what was even more significant was
49:54
the fact that three days before he died, doctor Jung had been quite well,
50:04
perhaps the last of the dreams that could be communicated to men. He
50:09
had just finished his last written work, a work on symbols, and the
50:16
dream came to him, the first of which said, the first of which
50:25
showed him high up in a high place, a round boulder, a great
50:32
boulder of stone, and on this stone was inscribed the words take this as
50:39
a symbol of your wholeness and the singleness you've become. Great video there,
50:46
so we get a feeling for that man. Pretty dark. Amazing coincidence that
50:52
the very day they decided to film about Young's death, the very same style
50:57
sunstorm crops up. Yeah, that's pretty amazing. But he's we're able to
51:05
see first hand there his demeanor and his get an idea of his mindset,
51:09
the mindset that took Charles into the bush for seven days to teach him what
51:17
exactly what I mean. He was his spiritual guru. So, I mean
51:23
this was a man that had had a child with a fourteen year old So
51:27
what was he teaching Charles? What kind of role model was he? What
51:30
kind of role model was he to Prince William? Did Prince William know about
51:35
this while he was alive? Probably not? Does Prince William? Still?
51:39
I mean there are so many It just throws out so many questions. Yeah,
51:45
but we heard all about Jimmy Savell, but who's you know, not
51:47
many people probably have focused in. I'm sure some of our viewers and listeners
51:52
will have done, and they'll all be saying, oh, yes, Lawrence
51:55
van der Post, but the majority of people probably won't even know his name.
52:00
Yeah, we've got NGOs, we've got think tanks, we've got bankers,
52:07
we've got businessmen, insurance company enabling. Yeah, who's enabling all of
52:13
that? Who's the Charles is clearly the facilitator to all of this is going
52:17
on, But there's got to be people that are enabling it, don't you
52:21
think absolutely? I don't know how much further you want to go, Brian,
52:24
Well, we're going to keep going because we decided what where we thought
52:29
we could get As we analyze this man. But this man is not doing
52:34
his job in my opinions of king as king of this country because his interests
52:39
are onto global issues and astral issues. But we're now getting a feeling for
52:46
this man. I mean it's a bit of a crude thing to say,
52:51
but would I trust him to look after my dog if I was away?
52:53
Actually knows the answer. I don't think i'd want him in my house.
52:59
Is he doing his best to protect the people in this country that can't feed
53:04
themselves or haven't got proper homes or even people in Cornwall who have great difficulty
53:09
trying to get a family home and we got the immense power of the dutchy
53:14
down in Cornwall. He's not interested in those people. Yeah, and the
53:19
same going on in Wales. He's off on his global agenda and we're now
53:22
beginning to get into his mindset a bit. And as you do this,
53:29
you just ask more and more questions. But yeah, to me, there's
53:32
something defective here which people should be concerned about. What's incredible for me in
53:38
doing this series with you, Debbie, is that, of course, for
53:44
twenty one years my life, my life, I was in the Royal Navy,
53:49
so I was in the heart of the of the services, the military
53:53
beast, and a key thing was, you know, ultimate respect to the
53:59
royal family, that when you were saluting the flag, you were actually saluting
54:04
the royal family. And the standards of the military were all set with of
54:08
course the senior Queen as was at the head of the military, and then
54:15
senior members of the royal family with very important positions within the military, even
54:22
if that was an honorary sort of position. But everything was about respect from
54:25
these people for these people. And then as we dig into it, I'm
54:30
thinking, my goodness, was I absolutely so naive there that I wasn't looking
54:37
at what these people really were. And I'm happy to say to the audience,
54:42
no, I wasn't at the time. I had a job to do,
54:44
and you got on with that job. But the thought that you were
54:50
pressurized often in order to keep these amazingly high standards out of respect for the
54:57
royalty, and then when you start digging into the royal to you find that
55:01
actually life's very very different. I'm same as you, Brian. I brought
55:07
into all of it, but then you know, when I look back to
55:09
when I was growing up, the fates we're all waving Union jacks, the
55:16
Jubileese. We were all having street parties my mum. Because I was born
55:22
and brought up in London, my mum used to take me, you know,
55:25
to see royal occasions when the parades were on and stuff, so you
55:30
know, I was the same and it's shocked me as well hugely, as
55:36
I'm sure it has many people that are watching. But like we say every
55:40
time, you know, we're just putting out, putting out the information and
55:45
it's going to be down to everybody to look at it themselves and make up
55:50
their own minds. But clearly the Royal family, in particular the King is
55:55
surrounded by very question dark people. Yeah, yeah, I mean, and
56:05
we need to know this because you know, just last year, I think
56:08
it was last year, the end of last year, the Royal family got
56:10
a pay rise to their public purse, and I think it was just this
56:15
week. I was watching King Charles looking at the new banknotes that have been
56:22
issued with his head on and he's very pleased with them, very proud of
56:25
them. My Betty is so you know, this is an agenda that the
56:30
public need to know about because we're paying for this. Yeah, Debbie it's
56:35
been absolutely fascinating, so much to discuss. We can only do so much
56:40
in a reasonable time for the interview. Well it's not an interview, the
56:45
discussion. Thank you for joining me, and a huge thank you to our
56:51
audience, and they'll say, once again it's been utterly, utterly brilliant,
56:57
too well done. It's a marathon, and well done to everybody that's keeping
57:01
up with us. Thank you so much because it's so encouraging and it makes
57:07
me want to do more. So thank you, thank you very much,
57:10
and also brilliant see people coming in from the Commonwealth countries themselves to say,
57:16
oh wow, this is a really interesting series. I've learned a lot already,
57:22
so have I and we've got more to come. So we'll end there.
57:28
Debbie, thank you very much for joining me today. And I've realized,
57:31
of course, what an incredible backdrop I've got, because normally we can
57:37
see at least a little bit of the water, the Plymouth Sound as it's
57:40
called the Sea Sea in Plymouth, but today the mist and the claggers come
57:45
in and all we've got is that gray background. So yeah, maybe for
57:51
the next episode we'll get a bit of that spring sunshine and I also can
57:54
I also thank Stephanie Sinclair as well, because our pretty because it's a team
58:01
effort. It's you, me and Stephanie, and she's been absolutely amazing helping
58:07
me put all of this together, and we're helping us put all of this
58:09
together. So huge thanks to her as well. Yeah, brilliant. We'll
58:14
leave it there thanks to our audience wherever you are in the world. We
58:16
will be back shortly with part six of The Green King. Join us then,
58:22
thank you, Bye bye, bye bye.