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The Study They Tried to BURY: Covid Shots Cause MASSIVE Spike in Cancer w/ Dr. Makis · Man in America Podcast

• 0:14
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So you may have noticed that I haven't published for, what, ten days or so, which isn't normal for me. And, so this is this is I guess you'll you'll see the episode as it kind of plays out. But I actually my father went into the hospital about two and a half weeks ago and was diagnosed with late stage cancer and passed away just late last week.
• 0:51
  And this was it was he had been kind of declining a little bit. Now, looking back, you see the signs a lot more over the past six months, especially, but it was it was really unexpected. And unfortunately, like many of you probably have experienced in your own families, he was someone that trusted the medical system, and kind of out of his will to do the right thing, followed his doctor's advice and got multiple, you know, COVID shots and boosters and all that. And, you know, I can't say that it's this, you know, the doctor didn't come out and say, Hey, this is what caused it. But from all the research I've done and people like Doctor.
• 1:33
  MacKus, who I'm interviewing today, I would say that, again, my opinion, looked like he had turbo cancer. I mean, it was so rapid, literally from him being on his own, kind of getting sick, going into the hospital, having a diagnosis and dying two weeks later. So that's obviously been, it's consumed a lot of my time over the past couple of weeks. Live, you know, not in Ohio anymore. It's about eight hour drive.
• 2:00
  I've gone back and forth multiple times, you know, to see him. And and thankfully, I was able to see him, and had some really good discussions with him when he was still, you know, kind of conscious and, was also able to take my my girls, my wife and my two daughters. We all went and we got to spend a really good time with him. And, he said it was, it made his year to see his little grandchildren. This was about a day or so before he was no longer able to communicate with us.
• 2:27
  Actually, here's, this is him. This is him about a little over a year ago, which, you know, he was healthy, full of life. That's June and Grace, my two daughters there. This is just in our living room. And so this is just a discussion with Doctor.
• 2:45
  Mackus about turbo cancer and cancer and some new studies that have come out, lot of research being done showing the absolute, I guess, the real impact of these these vaccines and and what they're doing to people. And I know that the the COVID shots and COVID are they're kind of a little bit old news now. The the news cycle's gone on and which happens. But the reality is a lot of people are still living with the decisions that were made even a couple of years ago, and they've got family and and friends that are, going through and experiencing this. And and there's a lot of death.
• 3:22
  And even within my own family, it's kind of crazy if I look at it. You know, this is like the past, say, year or two past two years, I've had so many relatives. We've had now, with my father being the third person dying, another person died of rapid cancer, another person died of a sudden heart attack. And these are just immediate family, you know, like I'm talking uncles and aunts and cousins and step parents, etc. So this is, this is, it's impacting us very closely.
• 3:52
  And even people that haven't died, you know, a young woman in her early 40s that had to have a double mastectomy. You know, another one that had lot of reproductive issues, you know, clots, heart attacks. I mean, the havoc, the the medical havoc that we're seeing, and not just reporting on, like, from the bigger picture, but just seeing in in, like, our daily lives is just astounding. And so this discussion with Doctor. MacKus is just gonna be looking at what's going on.
• 4:26
  What's the research showing? What, what, where are the trends going? What are the ways that people can treat themselves? If someone got the vaccine and they're scared, what can they do? So anyway, so you'll probably see my energy's a little bit different in today's show.
• 4:43
  And I feel like I stumbled on my words more than I normally do in the discussion with Doctor. MacKus. So I think, admittedly, I'm not on my A game right now, but, I want to get the show going back again and want to, you know, again, cover the things that are important. And as much as I've I've covered, you know, probably a third of my content has been big pharma and, you know, turbo cancer and and all the things that we're we've talked about COVID and the vaccines. There's a big difference when you're talking about something and covering it and looking at statistics versus when it hits you in your real life.
• 5:26
  And so I know a lot of you have lost people, in your lives, and I my heart goes out to you, just for the loss that we're all experiencing right now, not just as a nation, but as a race, the human race and the amount of death and destruction that's happened to us. And this is particularly difficult too, because in 2015, lost my older brother to cancer. And so, you know, I'm now the only surviving male in my immediate family. I had lost my father and my brother both to cancer. And it's kind of crazy to even just to think about and reflect that.
• 6:08
  But to see my dad go through a similar, albeit sped up process of my brother was a whole different level of just kind of yeah, just difficulty, and and seeing these patterns happening again. And and, so, anyway, I guess we'll get into the interview. And it's not a I mean, it's a hard it's a heavy subject, but we find some hope and we find some silver lining. And look, I'm just, you know, I'm doing great. Know, I mean, it's not easy dealing with this, but I've got these beautiful family around me that is just this daily reminder that life goes on.
• 6:42
  And these little girls that, just warm my heart every day. This is like, well, this now, like, it's now my responsibility to raise them, right, and kind of make the next generations to follow, right? It's just the circle of life, right, as the older generations pass and the newer generations, come in. And, so anyway, I hope you enjoy this show. If you do enjoy it, let me know in the comments.
• 7:09
  I do read your comments. I really do. I don't always respond. But, and if you find this has been a helpful interview for you, please share it with your friends or family. Because I can't post this on YouTube.
• 7:23
  I still have a strike from a recent interview that got pulled down talking about these things, but we gotta we have to get this information out there. So anyway, please enjoy this interview with doctor William MacKus. Doctor William MacKus, it's an honor to have you back on the show. It's been quite some time, and I'm I'm really looking forward to this discussion today.
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much for having me again.
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: So in in my mind, when I think of the two words of cancer and vaccine, you're the person that comes to mind. There's been a lot of people that have exposed, you know, the truth and the reality of what the vaccines and specifically the COVID vaccines and boosters have done. And there's been a lot of people also talking about, you know, cancer and turbo cancer, but you're someone with a pretty impressive background in cancer, but you've also been fearless in actually calling a spade a spade and tying the two together. And really since our first interview, which is probably, you know, maybe two and a half years ago or so, you haven't faltered. But now there's been a lot of research and studies coming out that are actually validating exactly what you've been talking about.
• 8:28
  And so I think we'll we'll be getting into some of those. And, know, certainly, there's some very important information that is now, you know, kind of documented, which we'll be reviewing. But I also I I want to kind of talk a little more on the personal side of this. So I think a lot of people, a lot of people I talk to, I see the comments online, a lot of people are now having friends, family, you know, spouse, etcetera, getting cancer, dying from cancer. It's much more common, unfortunately.
• 9:03
  And, so just last week, I lost my dad, to cancer. He it was, and I don't wanna it's funny because I not funny, but I wanted to talk to you specifically about this and be able to kinda share this story with you because and just get your thoughts on it. But my so my dad, you know, you say relatively healthy guy. Actually, here's a I've gotta pull a picture of him. This is him.
• 9:28
  This is a little over a year ago. Right? This is him with my two daughters in our living room. Yeah. You can see he's a healthy looking guy.
• 9:36
  He's in his late sixties. And, so, unfortunately, you know, he got multiple, you know, COVID shots and boosters. And I talked to him and but it's hard to, you know, it's hard to to to kinda sway somebody, especially when you're when they're family, right, against the advice that his doctor's giving him. And so you have to realize, and this is part of the difficulty for a lot of people, is that you can't, like, can lead a horse to water, right, but you can't make them drink. You can't change their own decisions they're gonna make.
• 10:06
  And it's really, it's their own free will. But I'd say that starting around maybe in the last, say, eight months or so, we noticed that he was kind of dropping in his weight, you know, but, you know, kind of as quicker than he should have been at his age. And he maybe say six months ago, say, hey, dad, know, you're you're you're losing some weight. And he's like, yeah. I've just I've been eating a little bit less, and I actually feel pretty good.
• 10:28
  And, and he he kind of got thinner and thinner. And then we I was back in Ohio visiting him six or eight weeks ago, and it's kinda like, Daddy, you don't look very well. You know, you've you've you're really you're too too slim, and are you feeling okay? And, you know, he described some issues. He went to the doctor, and crazy enough, he went to the doctor at that time to have a, you know, checkup, because he was feeling kind of unwell, and they gave him another COVID shot.
• 10:52
  Like that was the recommend you know, that was they gave another COVID shot, and they ran some tests. And so fast forward to about two and a half weeks ago, he got we got some numbers back and some information back, basically that he had, esophageal cancer, and it had, spread to some of his lymph nodes. And at that point, they didn't say he had liver cancer, but his numbers from his liver were showing that they looked like it had spread to his liver. And this is two and a half weeks ago. And so he went in went into the hospital.
• 11:24
  And as I mentioned, he he literally just passed, in the past three or four days. And so that that was how rapid the decline was, and it had gone. I don't know the exact mechanism that ended up kind of ultimately ending his life, but it had gone to his liver. His liver, his there's a number called a bilirubin, which kinda it's it's a kind of basic number. His his bilirubin numbers in his liver, over the course of say, three or four days went from like a one to a seven.
• 11:53
  Like, just a rapid, increase, or you say, decrease in the liver's ability to function, you know, acute liver failure. And, you know, is as much as I've obviously, I've been covering these things so much, when it happens personally, it's a whole new level of just experiencing the just the reality of what we live in and what's happening with these medications. And, I mean, so obviously, you don't know you don't have his case file in front of you and all that, but, I mean, is this what I'm telling you, is this something that you used to see pretty commonly, say, ten years ago, and you're still seeing it today? Or is this a story that was not very common, how do you make sense of, I guess, the story that I'm kind of walking you through?
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: I'm really, really sorry for your loss. It's not something that we would normally see. This sort of rapid progression.
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• 14:29
  Speaker 2: Rapid progressions of cancer did happen in the past, and, you know, time from diagnosis to death, whether, you know, it's a few days or a week or two, it did happen in the past, but it was quite rare. I'm seeing it much more now, and I'm seeing it in cases where you would simply not expect it. And so in the past few years, you see these rapidly progressing cancers and time to death from diagnosis to death that in many cases is very shocking. The ages of people who have these rapid progressions have also gone down dramatically. So, you start seeing these rapid progressions in 20 year olds, 30 year olds, 40 year olds.
• 15:13
  We almost never saw that in the past. So something has changed dramatically in the past few years with cancer. I think the oncologists are absolutely swamped with cases, and so they may not be seeing the patterns. We do see mainstream media talking about the shift towards a younger population with aggressive cancers. We see a lot of talk about colon cancers showing up in very young people.
• 15:38
  Now they're talking about changing the age of screening colonoscopies from 50 down to as young as 30 and making this a standard. They've done this with breast cancers already. They've moved the age of screening mammograms from 50 to 40. And again, really no one is talking about it. So there has been a dramatic shift in the way cancer is behaving, way cancer's presenting, the rapid aggressive progression and really death sometimes in a very, very quick period of time.
• 16:15
  And I think, you know, I've been talking about the vaccines as being the potential cause of this for three years now, and it's still not getting much traction.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, isn't. And one thing also that I noticed in this experience and so he was at the James Cancer Center in Ohio, which is a you know, it's a pretty well recognized, very first class kind of facility. And a lot of different teams came in and see him, but one thing that I noticed with this is that not once did anybody say, here's why we think he may have got here's why we may think he has cancer. Like, no one looked at him and looked at his lifestyle, looked at there there was none none of that. It was almost as if he was treated in the same way that as someone who got hit by a car.
• 17:01
  Was walking across the street, you got hit, you come in with with some broken bones. It's like it's like, it just happened randomly. And then this isn't it like, there was just there was no questioning of that. There was no again, it's just as if, like, oh, something very just this random thing happened, and, you know, your your father just happened to be the unlucky person that had this happen to him. And that just to me also, as I was reflecting on it afterwards, I think this highlights another aspect of just where the medicine medical system is here, is that there's there's no broader wisdom to it.
• 17:37
  There's no bigger picture. Even we had all these different teams coming in, and nobody could come in and say, okay, here's the big picture of what's going on. We've got liver failure happening. We've this happening. It was just these isolated teams that would come in, and even as he was, you know, what seemed to be, you know, days within, you know, kind of, you know, passing as his condition worsened and worsened, you'd have one team come in thinking, oh, well, maybe we should do a skin biopsy to see what's happening there on his chest.
• 18:04
  And it's just like, like, do you do you not see? Mean, it just again, this is like one of America's probably most advanced cancer centers, but it almost felt like, as I was watching these doctors, and now some of them, they they really cared and that they put their heart into what they're doing, but it the system is much bigger than that. It's like I was watching the medicine being practiced in a second or third world country. If you look at the actual, like, protocols and just the lack of information being given, it was it was quite shocking.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: There has been a trend towards this sort of guideline protocol driven medicine for the last two, three decades, and I think it's only gotten worse. And they've really beaten the art out of the science and art of medicine. It didn't used to be just the science of medicine, there really was an art to it. That's why experience mattered, because the experienced physician could really think outside the box, rely on unusual cases they've seen in the past, and all that has been just drained out of medicine. It's really And especially oncology, I find that it is so guideline and protocol driven.
• 19:16
  And these guidelines, they're set by the big medical association, the Cancer Society and so on. And what is in the guidelines is really just a sequence of big pharma drugs that they want these doctors to administer in a certain sequence, and that's it. Really, there's no sort of inquiry, let's look at the unusual features of this case, why is it happening, what's the background, what's the environment, what's the diet, did the patient exercise or not? What kind of drugs did they take? What kind of vaccines did they take?
• 20:02
  There's no inquiry whatsoever. No attempt to find out what may have caused the cancer. I think it's mostly assumed that these are genetic anomalies that arise in cells or mutations. And really the push is just And a lot of cancer patients tell me this, they just get pushed right away into chemo, chemo, surgery, radiation, maybe some really expensive drugs like immunotherapy treatments, targeted therapy treatments. And that's it, they get pushed immediately into treatment.
• 20:39
  And just a sequence of treatment that really maximizes money for big pharma. And the cancer drug business is the biggest profit maker for big pharma. I've looked into this and it is the number one profit maker by far. Nothing else comes close. Heart drugs don't come close, diabetes drugs, blood pressure drugs, blood clot drugs.
• 21:05
  Cancer drugs are by far the biggest moneymaker. And think it's just become this sort of money profit generation model where the doctors are really just pharma sales reps. I mean, the oncologists, and many of them, like you said, they mean well, they do care, there's oncology nurses that really care, but they are in a system, they're really prisoners of a system that makes them pharma sales reps instead of true doctors.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: And I also noticed that most of the people that we were dealing with, I would say if I had say the average age not not kinda nurses. The average age of the doctors that we're dealing with, if I had to guess, it would have been maybe late 30s or early 40s. There wasn't a single instance of like what you mentioned, the person who's seen a lot and is coming in with that wisdom and experience. There wasn't the older person coming in that's been, you know, treating seeing cancer for thirty five years, coming in and saying, well, look, I'm just gonna talk to you. Here's what I see.
• 22:11
  That that didn't exist at all. It was younger people, and they were very kind, and they were good with their bedside manner, actually much better than some of the older doctors I've dealt with before when my brother was going through cancer back in 2015. But there was no there was none of that, though. It was just them coming in and kind of working through a sequence of questions and not really giving many answers, but they kept kind of saying, Well, we need some more data on that. We need some more information.
• 22:36
  We're gonna need to do another round of biopsies. It just, anyway, it just, to me, I've never felt the system was as broken as what I felt when I was actually inside of it watching.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: And this is what cancer patients tell me when they come to me is they're shocked at just how bad the cancer system is. And I'm talking about the best cancer centers in The United States, whether it's the Mayo Clinic, the Cleveland Clinic, the Memorial Sloan Kettering, MD Anderson, John Hopkins, Dana Farber. I mean, and they're all the same. It's this homogenous culture, this oncology culture that is just it's in every cancer center. And patients see just how broken it is and just how bad it is.
• 23:26
  And the senior members in this, and you've just alluded to this, it's mostly young people that are seeing the patients. Of course, they don't have the experience, sometimes they don't have the expertise, but they're at the front lines. What happens is the older members of the system, if you've really sort of ground your way through the system, you didn't get in trouble with the medical boards, you didn't try to be creative or bring the art of medicine into it, well, you get promoted. And so, you rise up the ranks of administration, you might become the president of the hospital, you will certainly sit on the boards of many pharmaceutical companies. And so when you see these senior oncologists, you know, sit on 10 boards of different pharmaceutical companies.
• 24:14
  They will be professors and chairs of oncology departments. They will go to conferences. They will give presentations. They will live a much more luxurious lifestyle completely disconnected from the front lines of cancer care because they were good boys and girls, they followed all the guidelines, the protocols, they made a ton of money for big pharma, and so they get rewarded. There is this reward system.
• 24:40
  You get rewarded with promotions, you get rewarded with high positions. Of course, some of them will move into the government. Doctor. Fauci, how many patients do you think Doctor. Fauci has seen in the last twenty, thirty years as a career bureaucrat?
• 24:55
  We do see a lot of these doctors become career bureaucrats sitting at top positions in universities, hospitals, and so on. So, yeah, it's tragic what has happened. And really, this assessment of cancer care being almost third world in The United States, I'd even say it's worse than that. Because what I see the cutting edge investigation into other treatments like the repurposed drugs, like ivermectin, fimbenzol, and mebendazole, that's happening in the third world. Doctors in Mexico are investigating.
• 25:36
  They've actually did one of the biggest research projects looking at 28 different cancers and how they respond to ivermectin, calculating the cancer cell deaths and so on, Mexican doctors were doing it. Doctors in The Philippines were pioneering the use of ivermectin in cancer while the pandemic was raging because they noticed that patients who were taking a lot of ivermectin because they were panicked about COVID-nineteen and were trying to protect themselves while their tumors were shrinking, and no one could figure out why because they weren't getting chemotherapy because they were in The Philippines, they couldn't afford chemotherapy. And so you actually see a lot of progress being made in third world countries, or what would be described as third world countries, because the doctors are maybe forced by circumstance, but they still have that. They still have that passion, and they still have that maybe they have the ability to explore outside the confines of the guidelines. So that's really that's where the exciting research for me has come.
• 26:39
  It's really been outside The United States.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: And such an interesting point too, in saying that it's actually that it's almost worse than a third world country from that perspective that it's like, yeah, maybe it is, because if you think about it. Now, in terms of, say, emergency medicine, you know, if I get hit by a car, if I get in a car accident, I've got a punctured lung, I'd rather not go to a third world hospital in, you know, like Ecuador, right? I'd prefer to go to a hospital here in America. Okay, there's certain things like that. But in terms of, you know, cancer and these treatments, you're right actually, it's almost as if the closer a medical system is to the the center of the heartbeat of big pharma, the more it's gonna just, in a lot of ways, make sure the patient stays sick because a healthy cured person is no longer a customer to them.
• 27:28
  And so they're gonna they're not gonna be giving you ivermectin. They're not gonna be talking to you about Laetrile, you know, b seventeen, you know, high dose vitamin c, any number of things. When first heard, you know, kind of where my dad was at, was thinking, gosh, maybe I can send him down to a clinic in Mexico. We ran out of time for that, but I know that there's there's clinics in Mexico you go, and they'll give you the ivermectin, or they'll do high dose Letrile. There's been amazing success stories, and it just doesn't exist here.
• 27:55
  But I wanna so I wanna pull up this, recent study. Let me pull, right here. Let's see. That you recently had a post, on your Substack about, because this is actually really significant. I think you'll help us understand why it's so significant.
• 28:10
  So, this says, you know, one year risks of cancers associated with COVID-nineteen vaccination, a large population based cohort study in South Korea. Now what's interesting is here is that there's this little kind of note here. This is a, you know, scientific journal, publication website. They say, this kind of little warning, readers are alerted that concerns with this article have been raised with the editors. Editorial action will be taken as appropriate once the concerns have been fully investigated.
• 28:36
  My my guess is people are reporting this because it's like it doesn't fit into the overall narrative. But, as far as what I understand with this study is they, over in South Korea, they looked at almost eight and a half million individuals between 2021 and 2023, and analyzed which groups unvaccinated or vaccinated were getting cancer at what rates. And so this is seems to be a pretty significant and large sampling, but why don't you walk us through what this kind of what this study represents? Give us a little background on it, and and why is this important, what this is being presented, what information it's showing us.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: So this is now the third large scale population data paper that has come out showing that the COVID vaccinated are developing a higher rate of cancers than the unvaccinated. The first study was actually from Japan. It was about one to two years ago, and again, a large population. And they were showing that since the rollout of the COVID vaccines, that there has been an increase in cancers in the vaccinated population, especially after the rollout of the booster shots. That there was so much pressure put on that paper that the journal actually pulled the paper.
• 30:00
  More recently, there's been two studies that have come out showing, again, large population studies showing increased cancer in the COVID vaccinated. There was an Italian study that came out a couple of months ago with about 300,000 people. They were looking for something else, and they incidentally discovered this increase, and it was about a twenty to thirty percent increase of cancers in the COVID vaccinated. And then this is the most recent paper, this South Korean paper. And and you will see the database is the Korean national health database.
• 30:32
  I mean, this is government data, 8,400,000 people. This this is a huge dataset, well analyzed. And again, this paper has come under attack because it touches a taboo subject. And the taboo subject is you are not allowed to show any association between the COVID-nineteen vaccines and cancer. But in this paper, they analyzed that entire population.
• 31:00
  I believe three quarters of them were vaccinated, one quarter were unvaccinated. They matched the two groups, and they showed that there was an increase in cancers across the board. Everything from twenty percent increase for breast cancer up to sixty nine percent increase for prostate cancer. There's an increase in, you know, colon cancer, lung cancer, all of these cancers that I've talked about as these most common turbo cancers that I've been seeing in the COVID vaccinated populations, populations that were mandated, doctors, nurses, teachers, you know, the police, firefighters, the military, the mandates in the military. I've been seeing a dramatic rise in cancers in these populations, and this has been, you know, breast cancers, colon cancers, lung cancers, and now we actually have a very large study out of South Korea that confirms this.
• 31:54
  And what they've shown is really just an increase in cancers after one year, and they looked at the type of vaccines, and I really want to draw your attention to this because this is really fascinating. This is actually the first evidence that we have, that the DNA based vaccines, AstraZeneca and Johnson and Johnson, had an overall forty seven increased cancer risk, even higher than the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA shots, which had about a twenty percent increased risk. And if you were unlucky and you happen to follow the advice of public health officials who said you can mix and match vaccines, so you can get your Johnson and Johnson and follow that up with a Pfizer booster shot, and maybe after that another Moderna booster shot. If you mixed and matched vaccines, you had also an increased cancer risk somewhere between the mRNA and DNA shots, and it was about a thirty four percent increased risk in that study. And we had our public health chief in Canada said, mix and match vaccines as you want, get whatever vaccine you want, it doesn't matter as long as you take the vaccine.
• 33:01
  And this was just absolutely horrible advice, medical malpractice, and this also caused an increased risk cancer and the vaccinated.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: So this is actually, I'm glad that you drew attention to this because that's set to me when I was reading this article, right? Where it's not just the mRNA, because a lot of focus has been on the mRNA technology, the mRNA platform. And but here though, and actually this is new to me, says cDNA were forty seven percent higher overall risk versus the mRNA were 20% higher. So cDNA being the AstraZeneca and J and J. So I'm quite familiar with mRNA because I've talked a lot about it with guests like yourself and other people that have explained it to me.
• 33:47
  But what are what is cDNA? This is this is, like, actually a relatively new concept for me.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: So the the Johnson and Johnson and AstraZeneca vaccines are DNA vector based vaccines where the spike protein sequence was entered into a piece of DNA and injected. Now the problem with and this is actually fascinating because we were always worried about integration risks with these vaccines, or with any genetic product, really. I mean, if injecting genetic material that shouldn't be injected, you know, into a person, With the mRNA vaccines, there was always the concern that there would be sort of a reverse transcription event from the mRNA to the DNA, and then that would get integrated into, let's say, your cells once you got the vaccine. Now, that was thought to be rare. It was shown to be possible in a lab experiment, but it was really never confirmed in humans.
• 34:54
  And so mainstream medicine blew this off and said, There's no risk of integration. It can't get into the nucleus, plus it's mRNA. It can't integrate into your genome, so there's no risk of genetic damage. But when you looked at the Pfizer trial, they specifically say, We did not test for genotoxicity, and we did not test for carcinogenicity, because we don't see how the mRNA could, you know, integrate into the genome and cause cancer.
• 35:28
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  Speaker 2: That was until Kevin McKernan discovered that all the mRNA vaccines are contaminated with DNA plasmids from the manufacturing process, and the DNA plasmids have the spike protein sequence in them, which then makes the mRNA. But they also have within the spike sequence, they have the SV40 promoter sequence, and SV40 is a cancer causing virus, simian virus forty. And so this has been a huge controversy. FDA and Health Canada and the Therapeutic Goods Agency in Australia have all come out and said, This is not a problem. This is not going to cause any clinical issues, but they didn't do any testing.
• 37:20
  And so a lot of focus has been on mRNA vaccines and this DNA contamination causing cancer, because this DNA could be easily integrated into the genome. In fact, the SV40 sequence is believed to actually make it easier for that genetic material to get into the nucleus, and so that once it's once it's close by in the nucleus, an integration event can happen. But with the DNA vector vaccine, that integration is much easier because you don't have to go through that extra step of converting, let's say, the mRNA to the DNA. You've just got the DNA right there already. So it's fascinating to me, this is the first paper that has really shown an even higher risk of cancer from the DNA vaccines.
• 38:12
  And, you know, I want to tell you, there's more of these studies coming out. Just in the past two months, there's been five or six studies that have come out looking at the integration of the genetic injections, the genetic vaccines into the genome and causing cancer. There's the Italian study of 300,000 people, the South Korean study of 8,400,000 people. There's now been a case of an 85 year old Japanese woman who had six mRNA vaccines. After her first three vaccines, which were Pfizer, she developed a breast lump, she was diagnosed with breast cancer, she had two more vaccines, she had a mastectomy, she was considered cancer free, and then she had her sixth vaccine, I believe it was a Pfizer vaccine, And then suddenly within a few weeks, she has a new lump on her chest wall because she she does.
• 39:08
  She doesn't have her breasts anymore. New lump on the chest wall. They biopsy it. They find out her breast cancer has come back, but this time they stain it for the spike protein from the vaccine, and they found the spike protein all over the metastasis, the breast cancer metastasis. And they test for nucleocapsid from the virus, no nucleocapsid.
• 39:28
  So it couldn't have been that she got a COVID infection and that lingering infection, the virus is somehow integrated and caused her cancer. So the that's this came out one month ago. Proof that there was spike protein from the vaccine all over her tumor recurrence. This was after this was really the sixth Pfizer shot caused her cancer to come back, and the spike protein was in there, which means that there had been integration into what became her cancer cells, her recurrent cancer cells. We have another case that's been published in the past month, literally within days of this Japanese case.
• 40:03
  It was a 31 year old woman who had three Moderna vaccines and developed an aggressive bladder tumor. The bladder tumor was genetically sequenced and the researchers found that it contained an exact match, a genetic sequence that was an exact match for the Pfizer vaccine. Now it's interesting, she had the Moderna vaccines. They found a match for the Pfizer vaccine, but, you know, there are sequences that are the same in both vaccines. And they also did further genetic testing, they found that she had all kinds of genetic instabilities and damage that had arisen after she had taken these three mRNA vaccines.
• 40:44
  Again, published just a month ago. Another paper that is being attacked and and being pushed for retraction is a paper that sequenced the vaccine injured individuals. They took their blood, they sequenced their blood, and they found thousands of genetic alterations that were caused by the mRNA vaccines, really, like, that it just does all kinds of genetic damage that they've been able to now identify by sequencing the blood of a number of people who've had the vaccines. That paper is being pushed for retraction. And so there there's there's a heavy push to, you know, really not link not make any link between the vaccines and cancer.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Which is just it's just insane. If you think if you really took a step back and looked at it, it's like you you could say, okay. Maybe they're driven by profits or it's, you know, the other motivators, but it's just evil. Like, if if you were to say say you're from a hundred years ago and you could look, you know, with the bird's eye view of what's happened in our world, that we had this, you know, pandemic that was really a plandemic. It was, you know, planned, pre planned, hyped up.
• 41:59
  It was a massive psychological operation. It made people full of fear, made people think that they couldn't hug their grandma unless they got this vaccine. So many people got the vaccines, not because they were scared of the virus necessarily, but because they wanted to protect others around them. They thought it was the responsible thing to do. Right?
• 42:18
  So they're really they're playing on that that compassion or on that, you know, the American spirit to do good for your community. They're using that as a weapon. So that's, like, kind of stage one, but then they roll out this this vaccine that, you know, I've had, doctor David Martin on here multiple times where he's walked through and shown they knew that these ingredients to the vaccines were going to do what they're doing now. And he said, look. Here's a study from, you know, say, 2003 that shows this component is a known carcinogen.
• 42:48
  Like, so it's like they they knew that this would have this effect. They still did it. Right? Now they're making tons of money off of it, but then they're actually still, even to this day, suppressing information, silencing, you know, censoring medical journals. I I I got a strike on YouTube.
• 43:07
  I think I think I I well, I think I'm sure what I mentioned, but talking about, I think, maybe it cancer or the vaccine. Even briefly, I got my video pulled down on YouTube, you know, it's probably two or three weeks ago. So they're still censoring. You know, you're in in Canada where you're at, they're coming after you with the entire weight of the federal government to try to shut you down. And it's just like again, if you were looking at the situation from a hundred years ago, you would just think that society has become so controlled by evil that it's sickening.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: It's it's extremely evil. It's very corrupt. And I and I think the the idea that the government, government officials, you know, it's public health officials, all the way to, you know, governors themselves who are pushing the vaccines. Of course, every doctor pushed the vaccine. The media pushed the vaccines.
• 44:00
  We had journalists push pushing the vaccines.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: The United States Of America.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: The president pushing the vaccines, you know, you know, threatening the unvaccinated with the winter of death, which, of course, never happened. There's so much liability, and there are so many people that are liable for their actions, for pushing what was an experimental pharmaceutical product that turns out was contaminated and is carcinogenic. And imagine, you know, I just think about the liability of of anyone who pushed these these COVID vaccines. And, you know, I can bring it back to the children because if it had just stopped at adults and they rolled out these contaminated shots and said, look, this is an amazing, you know, genetic product and you can take it or not take it if you want. We're not going to give it to kids.
• 44:56
  And that's it, you know, like if they had at least not injected kids, not injected pregnant women, if they made it optional, said, look, you can take it. You don't have to take it. It's totally up to you. I think we first of all, we wouldn't have had any kids taking these cancer causing shots. We wouldn't have had pregnant women having the problems that they're having now fertility issues.
• 45:17
  And certainly most people probably wouldn't have taken the shots because there was coercion. There was coercion to really force people. And it was everything from losing your job to not being able to travel, to not being able to play sports or go to restaurants, to not being able to see your elderly parents in the hospital. I mean, decoration was on every possible level, and it was a psychological operation to attack people from as many pressure points as they possibly could to get as many people to take these shots. But these shots, and we've known about the DNA contamination for two years now and the risk of increased cancer.
• 45:59
  In fact, I alerted the Canadian Medical Association back in September 2022 that I saw vaccinated Canadian doctors coming down with extremely aggressive cancers, dying in very, very short periods of time. Now, I didn't call it turbo cancer at the time. You know, I wasn't familiar with the term. I called it very aggressive cancers, and I was called a Russian, you know, disinformation agent. This was called misinformation.
• 46:28
  They literally had meetings and conferences about how to fight misinformation, like the information that I was trying to share with the Canadian Medical Association to try to save my colleagues, my physician colleagues, and they buried it. They've been burying it, you know, for the last two-three years. So it is very evil. This this suppression of of the scientific process and of data data that is unequivocally showing now increased cancer in the vaccinated. You know, with these these these databases of millions of people, 8,400,000 people, you know, from South Korea, that's going to be very hard to sweep under the rug.
• 47:10
  And more of these publications are being put out, so they won't be able to suppress them all. They won't be able to retract them all because you know, there isn't that kind of influence out there yet that you can completely suppress, you know, science across the world. And many of us are trying to get this information out, and it's going to come like a tsunami. I I see the number of publications about the COVID vaccines and cancer. It was a trickle in 2023.
• 47:40
  There were started to be a few more in 2024, case reports, more cases, and really more papers about potential mechanisms. I published one of those papers on potential mechanisms, the shift to IgG4 antibodies. When you take your booster shot, suddenly your immune system starts to produce IgG four antibodies, which ignore the spike protein and and the COVID virus, but they also ignore cancer in your body. So you completely shut down your cancer surveillance. One of the potential mechanisms, you know, we're looking at.
• 48:11
  And now in 2025, we're actually starting to see sequencing of the genetic material in cancer cells from the vaccines. We're seeing sequencing or staining of the spike protein in the cancer cells from the vaccines and these large population studies as well. They won't be able to suppress it forever. But in the meantime, millions of people are getting cancer and many of those cancers are are because of the COVID vaccines, and no one is really treating these patients in any other different way other than they did in the past. And these cancers are different.
• 48:47
  They're behaving differently. They're more aggressive. The patients have a much worse prognosis. And so if you take the basic approach that every oncologist is taking as they did in the past that, oh, you know, we have, we'll give you chemo, we'll give you radiation and you have at least a few years that we can give you. And the patient dies in a month or two, and the families are completely destroyed over it because because the doctors didn't know what they were dealing with.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly. And it's it also seemed that as part of this, you know, you mentioned they're not kind of addressing how quickly these these things are happening. Right? And they're I noticed that as well.
• 49:26
  It's like they they didn't seem to be in any rush. Whereas I was seeing day to day that my dad was declining so quickly, and I'm thinking, If I extrapolate this information, it's like, he's gonna be gone in a week, and and he was. But it's like, you know, I'm seeing this progression, but it's like that they weren't there was no sense of urgency. And maybe, you know, maybe they knew. Maybe and I was talking to my wife about this.
• 49:49
  It's like, maybe they're they're so used to seeing these cancers, they know when they they know when it's this kind of a cancer. And it's like, well, you know, they're not gonna come out and tell us, look, there's no hope. And we've seen the same thing happening over and over again. It's like, maybe they kind of led us along thinking, okay, maybe there's something we can do, maybe there's something we can do until it was just too late. But yeah, it was, you could just see that it was like, it was as if they didn't know what they were actually handling here.
• 50:17
  Was like it was almost like, you know, you see these movies of these new outbreaks, these new disease outbreaks, you know, these kind of movies about, you know, sci fi or zombie stuff. And and at first, like, we've never seen this before. It's it's it's mutating. It's multiplying. It felt like it was that kind of an environment.
• 50:32
  One question I have for you, because I know that obviously you are an expert in helping people understand the mechanisms that are causing the cancers, and you've been documenting this. You've also been treating a lot of people. So I have two things I want to hit on as we're kind of rounding out the second half of this. One being the what you're seeing working in terms of treatments, which I think is really important for people to help them kind of lessen that fear. But before we get into that, I want to ask you, if someone let's just say someone got the COVID shot, say they got a J and J, and they got one booster, and say, they're now starting to see kind of the early signs of cancer, or maybe they're not, Have you see have you seen any any indication that whatever damage kind of either current or kind of potentially to be kind of unleashed in the future that is there from these vaccines in someone's body, can they undo that?
• 51:28
  It's like, or if someone got the vaccine and two boosters, are they kind of a ticking time bomb? Or is there, are there things that people can do to, to maybe undo some of this and maybe to help correct? Because I I because I think that it look. I didn't get any of the vaccines, nor did my my wife or my, you know, my my my mom and and, you know, obviously, my my girls didn't get any. I don't have that worry about thinking that there's a lot of people that are, you know, watching and following you or watching these kinds of shows that maybe they got the vaccine in one booster.
• 51:58
  And now they're probably looking at this thinking, like, oh my gosh. Like, when's it gonna happen to me? Like so are there any mechanisms or ways that people can be more preventative with trying to stop or undo what's what's happening?
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: There there are. And and the way I would approach this is my advice to anyone who took one or more shots is that, first of all, I mean, you don't panic because there are many situations where, you know, people who took their shots, maybe the genetic material was broken down, maybe there was very little genetic material and your body has dealt with it, has handled it, has gotten rid of the foreign components, and you might be fine. So it's important not to panic. I think that that's the first thing. Then I would be more proactive than reactive.
• 52:53
  I wouldn't wait until I start seeing symptoms or until I, you know, I start getting sick because some of these effects, even the long term effects can come on very rapidly. So, you know, if if the vaccine has made you prone to clotting, you don't want to wait until you have a stroke or until you have a heart attack and then deal with it afterwards. Or you don't want to wait until you have that discovery of the the heart damage, the myocarditis, which again could lead to, let's say, a cardiac arrest. You don't want to wait until you get a cancer diagnosis. And and so my suggestion would be to look for labs, look for doctors and look for labs that could actually test whether you're making spike protein still, even though you haven't had any booster shots in a while.
• 53:41
  Check if you're making spike protein, check if you have elevated spike antibodies. And and so people who have had, you know, the vaccine linger in their system and then do damage down the road, they do have elevated spike protein in their blood. They do have very, very high levels of spike protein antibodies.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Sorry. Is that I want you to continue with that, but is so is that one of the main indicators? Like, that's one of the things that shows you, like, is it the spike protein antibodies? And is that the main mechanism that's leading to the cancer? So you can actually detect and see where those levels are at within you to, I guess, have an idea of what risk you're at?
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So there was a paper that came out about a year, year and a half ago that looked at young people who developed myocarditis, and they tested them. Or they tested a group of young people, including people who had young people who had developed myocarditis. The ones who had developed myocarditis had elevated spike protein circulating in the systems in their system. The ones who didn't develop myocarditis but did have the vaccines didn't have any spike in their system.
• 54:58
  So the spike protein is the agent that's causing a lot of the damage. And so if you can get in touch with one of these doctors that are, you know, working on these tests, spike protein tests, it's not widely available yet. That's that's the problem is that it's not that you can walk into any family doctor's office and ask for a spike protein test. They'll look at you like, you know, you're from another planet. You do have to find a doctor who has an idea of what's going on and can maybe get you connected with a lab that can do the test.
• 55:31
  It can be done. It's not expensive. That's what I would be looking at. Look at because that will tell you if you're not producing spike, you really have a lot less to worry about. And you don't really have to do a spike detox because if your body is not producing the spike at all, that may not be an issue for you.
• 55:49
  But, you know, try to get at least one of these tests. It's it's a lot easier to get a a spike antibody tests than an actual spike test. But there's a lot of groups that are working on the spike test. It will be out in the next six months, six to twelve months. And as we go forward, it will be more widely available.
• 56:07
  This type of testing. Now, if you are producing spike or you have high levels of spike antibodies, then I think you need to take some kind of steps to detoxify. We don't know yet if it's possible to clear this entirely from your system, but you can take supplements and things that can break down the spike protein like nattokinase, serrapeptase, lumbrokinase, bromelain, which is an enzyme derived from pineapple, nattokinase derived from fermented soybeans. So you can take these on a regular basis to try to get rid of some of the spike protein in your system. Doctor.
• 56:47
  Peter McCullough had sort of famously published his, you know, spike protein detoxification protocol, and it does work in some people. You can take ivermectin or quercetin. There's some other supplements that will bind the spike protein to prevent it from doing damage. And I think fasting is very important if if you're in pretty good health, you can do a prolonged fast, whether it's a three day water fast, five day water fast, seven day water fast, and the body will actually start to clear some of these spike damaged cells from the system. Maybe your immune system cells have been damaged.
• 57:25
  They're expressing spike protein. The body will actually delete those, remove them, and you will produce new stem cells and and you will renew your immune system. Fasting actually renews the immune system. And if you do it several times, you can renew your immune system almost entirely. So these are things you can do.
• 57:44
  These are things, you know, within people's control. But I I would really advise people to be more proactive with their health rather than reactive and waiting until that heart attack, until that stroke. You really don't want to be dealing with the situation, you know, if the once the damage has been done.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: That makes that makes sense. That's actually really helpful. It kind of takes it from that kind of shadowy, you know, what if, what if to, okay, well, like, I can beat, have a test done, look at the spike antibody spike levels, then you can kind of go from there. In terms of, obviously, the mechanisms of if someone does have cancer, you know, whether it's, you know, a small lump they're worried about, or stage four, you know, that's metastasized. I know there's, you know, I've, I've focused a lot on different methods that are being used to very successfully heal cancer, from, you know, red light therapy, which my own wife, after the birth of my second daughter, had a large lump in her thyroid.
• 58:46
  And she did a handful of things. Actually, was a red light that I think made the biggest difference. And it was like, basically gone within two months of consistent red light usage. I know that Laetrile, you know, B-seventeen, amygdalin, those are also, you know, key in helping to be proactive and helping also to kind of attack those cancer cells. You are, I'd say, one of the pioneers in, some of the medications, know, ivermectin, fenbendazole, menbendazole, you know the word, sorry, I'm kind of stuttering a bit.
• 59:16
  So what are you seeing as successful ways that people are able to treat cancer? Like, are some of the the, I guess, what's some of the data that you're seeing as being someone that is actually, you know, spending a lot of your time actually treating these turbo cancers? And what results are you seeing? And what do you rec what can you recommend based on that information?
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: I can tell you that mainstream oncologists will not look at your vaccine status. They may not even ask for it. They will certainly not consider it in any of their treatment plans. So whether you're unvaccinated or whether you've had 10 COVID vaccines and booster shots, if you get cancer, they're treating you the same way. And I think this is a big problem because the cancers in people who have been vaccinated are much more aggressive.
• 1:00:02
  You have less time. You don't have the luxury of time, which is what sometimes oncologists rely on. You know, if you have even a young person who's comes in with a stage one breast cancer, well, no one's going to rush. The oncologists are not going to rush. Maybe you wait a few months before you get your surgery.
• 1:00:21
  Maybe you have to wait four or five, six months until you have your lumpectomy. No one's rushing in these situations when maybe they should be. And so the oncologists are not recognizing the fact that the cancers and the vaccinated are much more aggressive. So it's that much more important for people to take matters into their own hands. They can work with the oncologist, but do additional things to to really give yourself a much better chance at a better outcome.
• 1:00:54
  And so what I'm seeing is for the past year and a half, I've been working with antiparasitics that are being repurposed for cancer. This is ivermectin, mebendazole, and fenbendazole. And the reason is because there's a big body of research. There are over 400 published papers on ivermectin in cancer. There are over two forty published papers on mebendazole in cancer.
• 1:01:22
  In fact, Johns Hopkins quietly secured a patent in 2021 on mebendazole for treatment in cancer, specifically the most aggressive cancer, which is glioblastoma, brain cancer, extremely aggressive cancer. Johns Hopkins has the patent. They are also running quietly several clinical trials with mebendazole in cancer. There's colon cancer, gastric cancer and brain cancer, including children, children with brain cancers as well. So this is not fringe.
• 1:01:55
  This is not something that is far out. There's actually real science behind it, patents behind it. And when you search a lot of the AIs, for example, Perplexity AI, and you ask what are the most promising repurposed drugs for terminally ill cancer patients today, it will give you in its search in the top three, you will get ivermectin as number one, mebendazole and fendazole. There's other antiparasitics like hydroxychloroquine will be in the top 10. You will have curcumin in the top 10.
• 1:02:31
  You will have EGCG, which is from green tea extract in the top 10 resveratrol in the top 10 Metformin, which is a diabetes drug, but also has anticancer activity in the top 10 as well. And what I have found working with these antiparasitics is that there is a benefit to patients in at least seventy five percent of the cases. Now most patients come to me very, very late. They come when they've exhausted all other options. They've put their body through multiple rounds of chemotherapy, radiation, immunotherapy, everything has failed.
• 1:03:05
  The doctor has told them we have nothing left to offer you. You have three to six months to live. And I get a lot of those situations. So patients come to me very, very late. I wish most patients would come to me early when it's stage one or stage two, even stage three.
• 1:03:21
  And some do, you know, I I I do get breast cancer patients, for example, who have large tumors, but they're waiting, they cannot get surgery. So they're waiting, while they're waiting, they take ivermectin, mebendazole and their tumor shrinks by half, or it shrinks by two thirds. So overall, about seventy five percent of patients have some kind of a benefit. It's not always tumor shrinkage. Sometimes we can just stabilize the tumor in brain cancers.
• 1:03:45
  For example, we can stabilize the tumor so it doesn't regrow after the surgeon has taken most of it out or that the tumor doesn't come back. Brain cancers, the tumors have a propensity to come back very often skin cancers, they come back bladder cancers. They come back all the time, every three, four months when the patient has a cystoscopy, there's a new tumor there. These antiparasthetics can stop those tumors from coming back, for example. Now you can take these antiparasthetics like ivermectin, mebendazole, fendazole.
• 1:04:14
  You can take them with any conventional cancer treatments. As Obamacare or as Obama told us, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, right? So if you like your oncologist, you can keep your oncologist and you can work with your oncologist and you can take these antiparasitics with any chemo, with any radiation therapy, with any immunotherapy, hormone therapy, targeted therapy, you name it, you don't have to give anything up. It's not a either or, you know, you don't have to say, well, now I can't do chemo or I can't do a clinical trial because I'm taking ivermectin. You can always do combination treatments.
• 1:04:51
  And I have found over the past year and a half that the combination treatments tend to be the most powerful and patients tend to have the most dramatic outcomes. Now, we're dealing with, for example, stage four pancreatic cancer or stage four ovarian cancer, which are in many cases, death sentences. I've had many of those cancer patients go from stage four to cancer free with combination treatments, chemo, ivermectin, mebendazole, maybe some supplements like curcumin, EGCG, keto diet or low carb diet, also very important to fix your diet so that you're not feeding the cancer with sugar, throw in some prolonged fasting, a three day or five day water fast, reboot your body, clear some cancer cells, stimulate and regenerate your immune system so it fights the cancer better. And these combination treatments that I've been helping cancer patients with, we've seen some very, very dramatic results. You know, patients going from hospice to being cancer free, patients going from having an appointment for euthanasia in Canada.
• 1:05:55
  We have medical assistance in dying or MAID. So some cancer patients, they get their appointment with their oncologist and they get an appointment for euthanasia. And I've had one patient who had that appointment and then few months later became cancer free.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: Incredible. It's, yeah, you know, saying too little too late, right? It's easy to look back and say, gosh, what could I have done? But, you know, there's a certain way things happen and that's it. So, as we're we're wrapping up, I wanna well, first question is, if someone wants to get ahold of you, say someone has cancer, a relative, I know that you're very busy and and, know, but you're working to expand your ability to help people.
• 1:06:38
  How can they get ahold of you?
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: So one place, easy place to start is my Twitter account or X account MacusMedicine. And I post a lot of testimonials there. I also post information, you know, the success stories. There's a lot that can be learned from the success stories because I share success stories and emails from patients themselves. You know, I do very little write up or or editorializing it's really from the patient's own words.
• 1:07:10
  And then I would really direct people to my substack macsw.substack.com. Now my substack has now climbed to the top three of all health substacks. And so it is very popular and I've got over 2,000 articles including hundreds and hundreds of testimonials. And so, you know, if you can't get a hold of me for a consult or let's say, you know, a consult is out of your range financially, there is an absolute wealth of information on my substack. And again, there's a lot that you can learn from all the various success stories that I've been posting.
• 1:07:48
  I've been trying to post at least one success story every single day because we have that many and and there's hundreds that I probably won't even be able to post. But I try to get those stories out there. If you want to email me, you can email me at infomacsw dot com again infomacsw dot com. We are absolutely swamped with requests though, and it really have been for the entire year of 2025. We get close to about a thousand emails a day.
• 1:08:15
  I have a very dedicated team that helps me, but you know, I'm really looking forward to maybe running a proper clinic, a large clinic hiring and really collaborating with more like minded doctors, like minded nurses, other healthcare professionals. And I'm looking at Florida. I'm looking at Florida as being the place that's leading the way in the area of repurposed drugs like ivermectin, mebendazole and fandenzil. What's fascinating is that in the past month or two, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has committed at least $60,000,000 to cancer research involving ivermectin and other repurposed drugs. And that can, I think, go up to about $140,000,000 just for cancer research?
• 1:09:07
  I think he's very excited by the possibilities offered by repurposed drugs. Florida Surgeon General, Doctor. Joseph Ladepoel is also on board, very excited about this, very eager to learn more and to get research going in this area. So I'm really looking at Florida as the place that I'm going to be doing a lot of work the near future. And leading this, I think this is a revolution in cancer care.
• 1:09:35
  And you know, I think it is the future of cancer care because there's a lot of focus right now on what is the next big money making drug in cancer. And you will see Larry Ellison, CEO of Oracle, was at White House giving a presentation and telling the world that him and his other AI tech bros are going to solve cancer. They're going to invest $500,000,000,000 so that we can have AI driven, AI generated mRNA cancer vaccines. And that is just absolute nonsense. The mRNA technology is broken.
• 1:10:11
  It's dangerous. It doesn't work. It's actually causing these aggressive cancer cases. So now they want to repurpose it and treat, you know, cancer with the cancer that they caused with the same type of technology. But why are they doing it?
• 1:10:24
  Because they will charge about $500,000 per treatment. An mRNA cancer vaccine is not one little injection that you go get at your doctor. It's planned to be about 20 or 30 injections in total. I think 10 of them are mRNA injections. 20 of them are Keytruda injections.
• 1:10:42
  Keytruda is an established cancer drug, so they want to combine the mRNA cancer vaccine with an established drug, because that's how they're going to hide the fact that the mRNA cancer vaccine doesn't work. And it's going be the other drug doing all the heavy lifting. Of course, Keytruda sets you back about $100 $200,000 per year if you're getting that drug already. And so it's a scam, but it's a profitable scam. And we saw how profitable the COVID vaccine scam was.
• 1:11:11
  Pfizer recorded over $100,000,000,000 in revenue in year 2022 and 2023. It was hundreds of billions of dollars were made on the COVID vaccine scam. No one was held accountable. No one was punished. Now millions of people are getting cancer.
• 1:11:26
  This doesn't, of course, include all the people that have gotten autoimmune diseases and blood clots and heart damage and neurological damage from the shots. And all these companies that were selling and made their money on the vaccines, they've all shifted and put their focus on cancer. So now when you look up what are the top 10 US cancer drug makers by revenue, Pfizer comes in at number four, Merck comes in with number six. Merck had a patent on ivermectin, but they disavowed ivermectin during the pandemic. And now they're actually in partnership with Moderna working on the mRNA cancer vaccine.
• 1:12:03
  AstraZeneca no. Sorry. Johnson and Johnson comes in at number seven, cancer drugmaker now, and AstraZeneca comes in at number nine. So all of these vaccine makers have completely shifted their business model, and now they're going to be making money on the other end of this from the vaccine injuries. They're gonna be making money on cancer.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: Okay. It's just crazy. It's it's yeah. It's just a sign of times, I guess, of where we're at. But it also there is hope in all this because I think a lot of people are seeing through it and are looking for alternative solutions.
• 1:12:40
  And And I'd be so excited to hear the news that you're opening a clinic up in Florida. That'd be great. Especially if you can get some money coming in from the state as you deserve it. So, Doctor. Maccas, thank you again for, giving us your time today.
• 1:12:57
  I'll make sure that your links, your Twitter and your Substack links are in the description below. And yeah, yeah, just, you know, thank you for doing what you're doing. It's been, it's been good talking to you today. It's been difficult. It's not not easy conversation for me today.
• 1:13:11
  But I'm glad that we had this discussion. So thank you.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you for having me on. And and really thank you for for for for giving hope. I think this this, you know, this information, and I and I know it's it's it's depressing and sometimes it's but I think there's there's a lot of hope here as well. And I'm I'm seeing, you know, a lot of benefit in patients who, you know, who've had the vaccines, they had cancer and they are seeing incredible results. You know, some of them are cancer free now.
• 1:13:46
  And so I really want to leave on that message, have hope, have faith, and just don't give up. Keep fighting. And I think there is a lot of hope on the horizon.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. Well, thank you again. It's it's always nice to speak with you. Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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