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Ring on a String (RHOC Recap) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod
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  Speaker 3: with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and.
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  Speaker 2: Dolores Catania.
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  Speaker 3: Hi.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, guys. I'm so happy that you're here. Thanks for
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  Speaker 1: coming early.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to thank me. I'm so excited that
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  Speaker 2: you're going to see the show. I know.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm excited that I may, I feel up to
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  Speaker 3: like staying at the horse show, going there and seeing.
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  Speaker 1: Slate, but she's so funny. She's like, mom, where are
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  Speaker 1: you going to stay?
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  Speaker 3: Because I've already planned to stay with my friend Addy tonight.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, Oh, okay. Thank you. Um, no worry.
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  Speaker 3: I asked my friend Tracy, like I'll stay with her.
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  Speaker 3: And then tomorrow night when you need me, I'll stay
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  Speaker 3: with you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Like that's, That never ends. Now you just like sit
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  Speaker 2: in the corner and wait for them to tell you
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  Speaker 2: you could speak or talk like or engage.
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  Speaker 3: Or show a picture of them. God forbid I show
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  Speaker 3: a picture of Slate.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, people have said to me, how come
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  Speaker 2: you don't post your kids? Because they won't let me.
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  Speaker 3: No, like the second I get my phone out, they're like,
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  Speaker 3: you better not put this on Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: They don't realize it's part of our job. I've heard
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  Speaker 2: of paying for your horse. Hello.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, come on. She'll let me post horse videos,
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  Speaker 1: but that's it.
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  Speaker 3: But, but that, cause it's behooves her because then I
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  Speaker 3: tag her and then sponsors want to sponsor her. And
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  Speaker 3: so now she's her own little mini micro influencer.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. Oh, good for her. Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So this, I want to get into with you because
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  Speaker 3: I'm curious if this is an age demographic thing, or
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  Speaker 3: this is.
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  Speaker 1: Like truly I'm just that far out of the loop.
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  Speaker 3: But last night Valley and I were talking about like
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  Speaker 3: the stages of, you know, when you meet somebody and
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  Speaker 3: how it goes.
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  Speaker 1: And he, so he said, this is the stages.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to hear this.
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  Speaker 1: I was, I was dying because I was like, because
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  Speaker 1: I go Valley guy.
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  Speaker 3: I was like Valley guy. I just tell people I'm
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  Speaker 3: dating you. And he's like, you say dating. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: what do you say? So that's how it, it all
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  Speaker 3: went down. He goes, okay, this is how they go.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. The catalyst to this conversation. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: That's the catalyst to the conversation. Cause I'm like, dating
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  Speaker 3: to me just sounds like it's not boyfriend. It's just dating.
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  Speaker 1: It's that. Cause that's exactly what we're doing. And he's like, actually, no.
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  Speaker 1: So here he goes, this is this.
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  Speaker 3: Chain of events alone and doomed recently, single, single dating around,
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  Speaker 3: hooking up, situationship, polyamorous, talking, slash going on dates with
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  Speaker 3: one person that you like, dating, slash boyfriend, girlfriend, engaged, married, divorced, dead.
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  Speaker 2: That's a circle of life.
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  Speaker 1: So I go, so what am I? And he goes, talking,
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  Speaker 1: going on dates with one person. I'm like, that's dating.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, well, listen, going on dates with one person. So
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  Speaker 2: is Valley Young dates with one person.
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  Speaker 1: Too no we're the one person oh okay.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I mean like so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah like so we're the one person and I you
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  Speaker 1: call that that's why don't you just call it dating
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  Speaker 1: I see I put dating.
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  Speaker 2: That's my boy like if it's one person then do
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  Speaker 2: you say boyfriend.
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  Speaker 3: No boyfriends like that's two I have two more levels
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  Speaker 3: to even get to that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it's I'm talking to.
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  Speaker 2: It's like belt colors in karate. I was dying.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, and the fact that polyamorous was on
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  Speaker 3: his list and I had to Google what that meant.
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  Speaker 2: Remember from Rhode Island, Kelsey was polyamorous because.
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  Speaker 1: She was having sex with more than one person at
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  Speaker 1: one at the.
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  Speaker 2: Time because he had other girlfriends. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So you can agree upon that.
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  Speaker 3: But I, I also, I'm really having a hard time
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  Speaker 3: between like, talking, going on dates with one person and dating.
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  Speaker 3: I think that I don't think boyfriend girlfriend should be
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  Speaker 3: with the dating. I think dating should be above it.
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  Speaker 3: And then boyfriend girlfriend is one step below.
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  Speaker 2: No, what? Girlfriend, boyfriend's a, you mean below like, or below,
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  Speaker 2: like it should be higher.
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  Speaker 1: No, like dating is more casual than boyfriend, girlfriend, correct?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to say, but he's like, no,
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  Speaker 1: dating is.
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  Speaker 3: The same as boyfriend, girlfriend. You say talking when you're
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  Speaker 3: not boyfriend, girlfriend.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if I was with someone who I called my
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  Speaker 2: boyfriend and he said, I'm dating Dolores, I would fucking-
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  Speaker 2: lose my shit because just dating means that's a person
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  Speaker 2: you call to just go on a date or go
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  Speaker 2: out with that's not the text in the morning good
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  Speaker 2: morning to me dating is okay i have nobody to
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  Speaker 2: bring to this wedding i'll call the person i go
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  Speaker 2: on dates with so see you're.
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  Speaker 3: Even making it more serious than i am so like
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  Speaker 3: i just consider dating as i'm dating one person i
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't go on a date with somebody else i like
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  Speaker 3: him we're getting to know each other having fun we're
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  Speaker 3: dating He considers that talking to and he considers dating boyfriend, girlfriend,
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  Speaker 3: which I do not.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I think I'm going to have to say?
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  Speaker 2: It's relative to the person. I don't think anything just fits.
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  Speaker 2: These things just fit like what it's how you perceive it.
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  Speaker 3: It's just hilarious because I think it's an age difference
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  Speaker 3: thing because I asked a bunch of my friends last
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  Speaker 3: night and all of them were like, no. Talking and
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  Speaker 3: going on dates with one person makes zero sense as
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  Speaker 3: that being like above.
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  Speaker 1: And then it goes to dating and boyfriend, girlfriend. Like
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  Speaker 1: it's not one than the other. Quick, quick, quick.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to ask my nephews and nieces. Because when
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  Speaker 2: they say, oh, they're talking. Well, in my mind, I
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  Speaker 2: just picture two people making out and not really giving
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  Speaker 2: a shit about each other.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's what I figure talking is. Well, also, I
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  Speaker 3: feel like it's a lie. Like we're not just talking.
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  Speaker 3: like my tism yeah like my tism doesn't handle that
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  Speaker 3: I'm like oh.
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  Speaker 2: So we speak only take out the tism that does
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  Speaker 2: don't get us in trouble okay let's call you your
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  Speaker 2: type A what was that thing you go to the doctors.
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  Speaker 1: For OCD and being a perfectionist.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah so your perfectionism doesn't It's not, that's
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  Speaker 2: not okay. No, because it has to be specific with you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Cause it's, I'm very specific. I'm very clear. Like what
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  Speaker 1: the word means, it means something to me.
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  Speaker 3: Like, so if I were to talk to my dad
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  Speaker 3: and he were like, are you still hanging out? Are
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  Speaker 3: you still going on dates with that guy? And I
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  Speaker 3: were to say to him, uh, yeah, we're talking. He'd
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  Speaker 3: be like, what do you mean you're talking? Have you
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  Speaker 3: never hooked up?
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  Speaker 1: And I'd be like, well, that's not what I said.
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  Speaker 2: But talking means talking.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I said. OK, great.
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad we're on the same page because he thinks
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  Speaker 3: that's a 35 and over thing.
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean, you know what it is, Teddy, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to tell you just I think that you hang
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  Speaker 2: on to like the word has to mean what you're saying,
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  Speaker 2: like you'd probably get along with Paul because I hate
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  Speaker 2: that I have to explain when I mumble or when
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  Speaker 2: I just throw a word out there. Like, don't make
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  Speaker 2: me do that. Don't be so specific.
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  Speaker 1: I'm specific. Like if you say a word, it's very
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  Speaker 1: literal to the word you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. But you know, I think that follows through with you.
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  Speaker 2: When you say you're someone's friend, you're their friend. Things
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  Speaker 2: mean stuff to you. I used to be like that too.
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  Speaker 1: But like also if I were just talking, like I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking to you right now. Like that's how literal I am.
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  Speaker 2: I hate the word talking when you refer to it
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  Speaker 2: in a relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Like I am talking to you right now. So how
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  Speaker 1: in the world could.
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  Speaker 3: I be talking to somebody else that I'm going on
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  Speaker 3: dates with and having physical interaction?
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  Speaker 2: I think through generations, different words mean different things. And
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  Speaker 2: I can think of some if I had a memory,
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  Speaker 2: but there are words that have changed over generations for
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  Speaker 2: different meanings.
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  Speaker 1: I also love that he writes, Dating, boyfriend, girlfriend, engaged, married, divorced, dead.
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  Speaker 2: He's cute.
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  Speaker 1: But anyways, I was like, I'll ask Dolores. And he's like,
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  Speaker 1: she's in your age demographic. She's going to agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: Shut up, Valley. Shut up, Valley guy.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't mean I don't know. But I agree with Teddy.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe you're right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So that's one thing. But speaking of alone and doomed.
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  Speaker 2: That's a generational thing. So to the point of how
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  Speaker 2: this all started, yes, it's a generational thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's a generational thing. And I'm 45 years old. I
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  Speaker 3: don't talk like that. Like, it's just not, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: going to, like, also he didn't even put in there
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  Speaker 3: in a relationship. Like to me, that is one of
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  Speaker 3: the things, like a boyfriend, girlfriend, like that is a thing.
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  Speaker 2: I would, I would be very satisfied if a guy
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  Speaker 2: that I liked who I was talking to said that
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  Speaker 2: we were in a relationship. It wouldn't mean a lot
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  Speaker 2: to me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't need that right now, but
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  Speaker 3: I need him to at least be clear on his phrasing.
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  Speaker 1: But you know who's not talking anymore?
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  Speaker 2: Who? Danny. I saw that.
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  Speaker 1: Danny!
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  Speaker 2: Did you predict that was going to happen?
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  Speaker 1: We totally knew that was going to happen. Danny and
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  Speaker 1: Carmella broke up.
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  Speaker 2: So... Danny and Carmella... So here's the thing. She keeps saying...
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  Speaker 2: that I saw her with um page six right yeah
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  Speaker 2: Danny and Evan were talking to her and she keeps
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  Speaker 2: saying that um she just couldn't trust him and then
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  Speaker 2: she found him that there were he was still not
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  Speaker 2: being truthful about certain things so can I just say
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  Speaker 2: this yes I think she was just.
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  Speaker 3: Over him you could kind of tell she was over
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  Speaker 3: him in the episode so we'll get into that later
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  Speaker 3: but the fact that they've announced this before this episode,
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  Speaker 3: I think it makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Like this little press, like, you know, we're done.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I, I just think that, yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: She's like, I loved him dearly and all this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to that because there was something that I
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  Speaker 2: kind of had hit a nerve with me when she
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  Speaker 2: was speaking to him at the dinner. Yeah. I felt like,
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  Speaker 2: I think that, She just wants to get out now.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, we'll get to that.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to that. So it starts out in La Quinta.
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  Speaker 1: Vicky tells Jen and Emily she meant for the crew
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  Speaker 1: to leave, not them. What are your thoughts on this?
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  Speaker 1: I know, like, you're.
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  Speaker 3: Very different about your beliefs on this. So I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to piss you off. So you go first.
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean I'm different?
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  Speaker 1: No, you thought the girls were pushing out of the
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  Speaker 1: whole time. I do.
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  Speaker 2: And here's why. Okay. She's been out of this for
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  Speaker 2: a long time. I'm not going to like, really, I don't,
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  Speaker 2: I don't, I'm not taking a side because I probably
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't hang around with her and I wouldn't be going
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  Speaker 2: to her house. I don't go to people's houses that
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  Speaker 2: I like who are actually very hospitable. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: like people telling me what to do. However, they know
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  Speaker 2: what she is. She's been out of this for quite
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  Speaker 2: some time. It's very hard to all the stuff that
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  Speaker 2: you got back into to pull your life away from
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  Speaker 2: the work and the routine that you built up to
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  Speaker 2: just stop out of nowhere. So she's still in that
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  Speaker 2: mode and they know this about her. So why do
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  Speaker 2: they not just accept that? And I mean, honestly, she's
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  Speaker 2: not there for conversation, Vicki.
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  Speaker 1: But that's what people are there. That's what the show is.
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  Speaker 3: It's about conversation and dialogue and talking to.
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  Speaker 2: And also the sacrificial lamb. that you bring on so
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  Speaker 2: you can kind of say, all right, there's the mess.
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  Speaker 2: That'll probably be the drama this year.
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  Speaker 3: Well, this is what I, so, you know, they're hustling
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  Speaker 3: around in their room, in their pajamas, putting sweaters over
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  Speaker 3: their matching jammies to get ready to go to Uber home.
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  Speaker 3: And then they walk into the kitchen and all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden all the food's made.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, who did, who made this food? When and where?
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  Speaker 2: It's very, it wasn't, you know, there was no continuity
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  Speaker 2: there unless Shannon did. She's out there by herself.
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  Speaker 1: Shannon's out there doing the Lord's work.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So Shannon's just like, well, fuck it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Mike's in the room with Vicky. And the other two
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  Speaker 2: are rustling through their stuff to try to see what
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  Speaker 2: cute sweater to throw over their cute pajamas. And they're
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  Speaker 2: all offended. Meanwhile, they poke the bear the whole time.
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  Speaker 2: Even though she's rude. Vicky's rude. She's rude to them.
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  Speaker 1: I would poke the bear.
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  Speaker 3: If somebody was rude to me like that, I would
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  Speaker 3: either get in a fight with them and I'd be like,
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  Speaker 3: go fuck yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Kindly.
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  Speaker 1: With a cheese grater, as Ariana would say. Or just I.
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  Speaker 3: Would poke right back and hope that they exploded because
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  Speaker 3: like there's no reason for somebody to be that rude
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  Speaker 3: to somebody.
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  Speaker 1: Stop talking. Could you imagine?
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  Speaker 2: Stop talking. Shush.
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  Speaker 1: Dolores, be quiet.
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  Speaker 2: And I would laugh in her face because it's Vicky.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like the normal person telling you to shut up.
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  Speaker 2: Like you shush me. You're normal. Well, you're my friend.
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  Speaker 2: So I would let you get away with it. But
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  Speaker 2: like other people like shush that you expect to beat,
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  Speaker 2: not treat everyone like that. That's Vicky's shtick.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't think it's a shtick. I think it's like,
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  Speaker 3: it's truly where she is right now. But I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I know we could go around and around in circles,
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  Speaker 3: but they, the girls are wanting to leave and, You
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  Speaker 3: can tell Shannon is pretty. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Shannon's pretty distraught about the whole thing. Shannon's trying to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, be on both sides right now.
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  Speaker 2: Very nice. This episode.
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  Speaker 1: Shannon was very nice.
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  Speaker 3: But then the girls decide they're they come out again
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  Speaker 3: and they're like, actually, we're not even going to eat.
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  Speaker 1: We're just going to Uber home.
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  Speaker 2: And anyway, what's the date for the pizza? I would
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  Speaker 2: have been like, I don't fucking like you anyway. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to like you any less if I don't
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  Speaker 2: eat my pizza. I'm going to finish my pizza.
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  Speaker 1: Know what I was upset about?
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 1: That there was no car cams in that Uber.
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  Speaker 2: There wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: Because you know that or like, let's get the Uber
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  Speaker 3: driver on the pod because we know he's got shit
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  Speaker 3: to tell us about whatever they said on.
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  Speaker 1: That way home.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to me. I can only imagine. They were probably
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  Speaker 2: so happy to go back home. They didn't care. They
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  Speaker 2: didn't want to stay there. The energy sucks.
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  Speaker 3: The energy, but that's my point. The energy sucks. Mike
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  Speaker 3: comes in, he makes it uncomfortable. He's still there. Um,
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  Speaker 3: Vicki pours herself like a Magnum glass of red wine.
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  Speaker 3: And then I looked around and I'm like, not even
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  Speaker 3: Shannon's drinking right now.
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  Speaker 1: Like what's happening? Like, this is, this is all a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Um, But so that's this chaos is happening over in
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  Speaker 3: La Quinta. But then over in Los Olivos, we've got
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  Speaker 3: Carmela telling Heather, Gina and Tamara that she doesn't think
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  Speaker 3: Mike even has a ring.
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  Speaker 1: So at this point, this is what I think. These
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  Speaker 1: are girls prodding each other to make jokes.
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  Speaker 3: So once they're in Los Olivos, Carmela, they're all kind
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  Speaker 3: of just sitting by the fire pit. But you can
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  Speaker 3: tell these girls are having a nice time together. This
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  Speaker 3: is what I watch the show for. And then the
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  Speaker 3: little jokes and the digs and whatever that they're saying
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  Speaker 3: is making me laugh. Like Gina even being like, right?
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  Speaker 1: Right, Carmela? Isn't that what you'd say about Vicky? Like
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  Speaker 1: all of it made me laugh. Carmela has had some beverages.
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  Speaker 1: So she's like you with beverages.
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  Speaker 3: I love I love, you know, someone that's just like Lucy,
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  Speaker 3: like not and not ticking around with any kind of mixer.
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  Speaker 1: Just I'll just have some vodka water.
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  Speaker 3: But at this moment, Carmela tells the groups, I don't
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  Speaker 3: even think that Mike has a ring.
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  Speaker 1: And everyone's like, do you think that he has a ring?
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  Speaker 2: No, no. At what point? At this age, do you
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: go buy a ring and then just not give it?
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Get the hell out of here. For what? He's punishing her?
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's nice to her. And I think
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: that's a big part of why she's so down and out. Sorry.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: And also, I think dangling a ring in front of
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: somebody is very bizarre.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: People do that. I've had it done to me a
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: lot of times, but I'm too wise to it. So
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: you can't do it to me.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Well, this is also like weird personal story.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: But when I was dating Edwin and we had been
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: together a couple of years and he was like it
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: was the day before Christmas and he came in and
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: he was like, hey, I just wanted to give you
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: a heads up.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, what?
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: And he's like, you know, I just don't think that
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: I believe in marriage and I can get married. I
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: just want you to know. And I'm like, OK, I'm
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: going to go into the other room. I'm not going
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: to give you any like ultimatums at this point, but
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go into the other room and I
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: do not want you to follow me. I'm going to
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: drink wine. I'm going to call my friends. I'm going
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: to cry. I'm going to go through all this. And
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to ruin the Christmas with Bella and
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: your family. So like, I'll show up tomorrow, but like,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: that's where we're, that's, that's the end of this. You know,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: like I'm not, I'm not going to just have a
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: kid with you and not be married. I don't believe
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: in that. And yeah, Then the next day he's like
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: calling me all over the place. I made myself very scarce.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Like I was like, nope, nope.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Can't find me. Not going to be able to find
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: me anywhere.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'll be there at five o'clock. And so I
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: texted him back. I'm like, I'll be there at five.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: When you said that your parents are getting to the
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: house that night, he proposed.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Right. And you know, sometimes you have to do that. Yeah.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: But like, Why do we really think he wasn't going
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: to like he zipped over on Christmas Eve and got
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: my ring?
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Like, it's so weird.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Well, you could buy a ring any time. So you
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: think he had a ring when he said that to you?
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think he had the ring.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: I think somehow he got Neil Lane to open its
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: doors to get the ring because he was like, shit,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: she's not having this.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, he gave it a try. He gave it
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: to the wrong person. I would have been like, yeah,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: but I never asked you for that. So. uh, yeah.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Don't flatter yourself that you have to have this conversation
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: with me. Bitch. Like I get so like, Ooh, that I,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I suppress everything. I shut down and I walk away
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, whatever. Don't care. But you were right.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: What you did was 100% right. The minute that Vicky,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: that this guy said, I have a ring for you,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: but I'm not giving it to you because you haven't
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: not pissed me off in long enough time.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Is the minute that Vicky should have walked away.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where it's like, don't play games with me.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: I don't have time for this shit. And I got
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: to tell you, if Edward had waited a couple weeks
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: in between proposing in that conversation, I would have been gone.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Right. And he knew that. Edwin knew that.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: But it's just like, I mean, I know that things
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: are different, but also like, come on, dude, don't tell her.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: You have a ring.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Did she pick out the ring? Has she seen the ring? Like,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: does the ring just sit there on like the countertop
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: as like being dangled on a little string?
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Like what's happening?
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I just feel bad. I like there's a part of
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: me that feels bad for Vicky. I do.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Well, later I start to feel bad.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: But Carmela, as she's like saying all this and she's
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: kind of being a little snarky and has a little
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: bit of liquid courage.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the way you need to be
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: in front of Vicky.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Not behind her back.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Listen, I think that we will see more of Carmela.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I think Carmela is a good housewife. I think that
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: we're just getting started. I like the fact that we
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: haven't seen all of her yet. Yeah. And I like
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: the fact to know that we could get her drunk
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: and she can absolutely.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Say something she never said. Yeah. And then the next
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: morning wake up and be like, did I really say that?
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: You can't put the toothpaste back. And there's no other
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: universe more true than this one. Yeah.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, but I did enjoy seeing the Las
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Olivas girls having fun and, like, laughing.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, we know all hell is breaking loose in the desert. Oh, yeah.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: The next morning, Shannon tries to explain that Vicky and Jen....
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Shannon tries to explain to Vicky that Jen and Emily
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: were upset. Vicky said they should have moved on, as
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: she did with the Debbie Downer comment.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Well, they flash back to her not moving on. I
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: don't think that Vicky's... Very self-aware.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Well, of course she isn't. But still, you're on a show. Like,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: you've got to.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: But she's just back after... What was her hiatus from this?
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I think it was like... Was it six years? Five years?
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: A long time.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Six years.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: That's a long time.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: But she came on as a friend of multiple times.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: And she did this while she was a friend of
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Like I'm working. Fair enough.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that piece of information.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So 2019 was her last time as a housewife.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: So it's a long time.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: It's a long time.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: But then when Vicki's like, well, I went through the
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: math and those girls owe me money.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: She's like the pool. Hold on. I think I took
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: a screenshot. It doesn't matter.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: She I did the math, too, and she owes them
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: 100 bucks. Because the Uber home, because of the way
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: she was acting, cost them $ 100 more than she says
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: they owe them. She said they owe.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Her $ 250 each.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: That becomes $ 500. Their Uber home was $ 600. I thought
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: the Uber home was $ 490. Okay. All right.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: So then.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: But I love that this is what she's counting as
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: this expensive... I don't know. I'm trying to act like
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I do math. I don't even know.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Gas, pizzas, appetizers, heating the pool, quiches, and gift bags.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: As if those gift bags weren't free. Please.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: It doesn't. Yeah, but listen. I just like it's a
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: mess over there.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: But if you invite somebody over.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: There's a lot going on.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: There's a lot going on. But I was definitely kind
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: of laughing. What would we have done if Vicky, if
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Shannon would have when she was being Vicky's assistant, just
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: done a Venmo request to all the girls for 250 bucks.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Wait, that was Shannon's time to say, well, I get
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: $ 35 an hour as an assistant. So it's four hours
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: to get home. So you owe me $ 140.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: And Shannon's like too scared to even be like, so
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: when are we leaving?
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Because I've got a doctor's appointment.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Shannon, like, Seems like this. And I know Shannon's a
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: lot of different Shannons. This is like the little like
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: sweet Shannon kind of trying to help her friend and trying,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: you know, that right now her friend's not defendable and
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: she's kind of trying to.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: But her friend isn't even being nice to her at
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: this moment. No, it's not like Vicky's like, thank you, Shannon.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: She's like, oh, well, you have their back.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: So she ever nice.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Well, I think she's nice later in the episode when
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: she's with the Vicki Gunvalson whisperer, Tamara.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I was like, excuse me.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: But before we get to that, we're back in OC
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: because the girls left early and Emily and Shane bicker
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: about Luke's treatment and the chores and Shane wants the
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: kids to to feel appreciated for all he does around
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: the house with the kids.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is what's bound to happen.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: None of this surprises me. But honestly, if somebody.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Didn't take the trash out and then got mad at
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: me because I didn't put the new.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Trash bag in, I'd be pissed.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Is that what it is, though?
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: No, I think it's just he's always trying to make
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: her feel like he's doing the most.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: He is.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Right. But she's working.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Right. So here's the thing. I think he's looking for
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: her to sit. Words mean a lot to me, right?
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: A little kindness goes a long way for me. And
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I think he's looking for her to say, you're amazing.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much. a little affection, things like that. Yeah,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I heard a couple episodes ago they had sex. She
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: bangs him now because when you like yourself, you want
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: to have sex, right? Yeah. More than ever. So it's
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: not even about him. She just likes the way she
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: looks probably. But at the same time, I mean, I'm
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: being honest, you know.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: That's so good.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: But she's just not saying to him, like he's like
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: doing all this And he she just he just wants
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: her to say, thank you. Thank you. You're great. You're great.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Look at you. I have the best husband. You know,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: sometimes people want to hear that. And she has a
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: hard time.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I think she takes it as a diss to
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: her as a mother. There's which I don't.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: I don't think I don't I don't think that Emily
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: is a bad mother in any way.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's saying she's a bad mother. But
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I think they're just not seeing eye to eye on this.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: That's the way she's feeling it.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the way she's taking it. So that's why
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: she's jumping down his throat each time this happens.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: What I see here is what's hard for him is
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: for him to say what he wants to hear her say.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Because once you have to do that, it's already too late.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: If you have to say to somebody and look at
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: them and say, can you tell me I'm pretty, please?
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Can you tell me I'm the greatest thing that ever
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: happened to you? Can you just give me something? Cause
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I need it. He seemed kind of down and out there.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Like I thought, Oh, am I always liking the people
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: that no one else likes? I don't understand it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Well, then what, where he lost me is once he
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: got on the phone and he started laughing while she
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: was still talking, I was like kind of a dick move.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: You don't really need to do that.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Then he became a dick because you get defensive. They're, they're,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: they're not communicating.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Well, they're not communicating.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Well, But then we move on from that. We go
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: to the ladies meet for lunches to debrief their separate trips.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Tamara and Jen are together. And then Emily, Carmela and
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Shannon are together.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: The biggest shame of this. It's in Yiddish. They say
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: it's a Shonda. Why did they split these up? If
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I would have loved to see Vicky unravel in front
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: of Tamara, and everybody else and seeing what everyone else
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: did when she was acting that way. I know. We
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: have to split them up. One goes to a boring trip,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: riding bikes in some Swedish village. And then the other
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: one are here. All the shit's going down. We needed
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: everybody there for this.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: We needed boots on the ground to get.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: To the.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Bottom. Would the, Vicky Whisperer have jumped in and said, wait,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: let's give her some grace here. I want to talk
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: to her. I want to pull her on the side.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Or would everybody have just like jumped on the bandwagon
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: and said, fuck you. Or, like, I would have loved
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: to had seen all this go down. Come on.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I think the recap definitely should... If they wanted.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: To exclude Vicky on this lunch because they needed to
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: recap her actions without her, fine.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Fine.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Wait, but you can exclude people from conversations in their
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: own home. We've done it for 20 years on Housewives.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: I understand, but, like, the fact that they even had
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Tamara and Jen separated and, like, Emily and Shannon and
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Carmela separated. It was a little bit.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I see where they're going with this. They're trying to... Well,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: first of all, they have to split up the Siamese twins,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Gina and Emily. They have to split them up. Okay?
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: And.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: They have to try to make them find relationships within
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: the other people. Now that someone's new, new is here.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: It's a new diamond dynamic. They throw in two new
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: people now, like, you know, they got to split up
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: a little bit. So I, I just think that I
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: would have liked to see them all together for this.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I think we missed out on TV gold, having everyone together.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I do too, because then we move right along from that.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: You know, they, they, Carmela actually says at this point,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know how many water vodkas.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: She's had at this point, but she's like, I'm pissed.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not over this. So I'm like, okay, we're going
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: to see you do this with Vicky. This is going
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: to happen.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: I also was confused why they were all dressed like
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: they were going somewhere else.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: She literally made four strips of bacon, one for each
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: person it looked like.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I'm like....
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: There's four, and I counted four girls. Or maybe there's five.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: There's four girls, four strips of bacon.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: You each get a half a piece of bacon and
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: chew it a lot and then spit it out.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Get the taste of it, then spit it out.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: I am such a slob.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Then we get to Gina and Travis talking about their
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: wedding expenses and purchasing a bigger house. And Travis gives
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Gina her legit engagement ring.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Gina, she's so appreciative.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: See?
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, now let's talk about this for a second.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Okay. Gina and Travis don't have much. So they say, right?
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: So they're like working on budgets. We want to have
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: a wedding, but it's so much money, but we deserve
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: to celebrate our love. But they're in love and they're happy.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: And she's happy with finally getting her real ring and
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: all these things. And then.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: But know what I thought of during the whole ring thing?
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is totally to poke at Vicky.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Gina's getting two rings before Vicky gets one.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: See, no.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Okay. That's what you were thinking. I was thinking of
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: the contrast of the people with money and then the
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: people who are happy and then the people without the
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: money that are happy with what they have.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: But let's be clear. I've gone on and looked at
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: the square footage. Huh? I've looked at the square footage
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: of the houses.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: And Gina's current house, I mean, granted, one year during
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: the rougher time she was in that casita, but the
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: house she lives in now, I think, is bigger than
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: a lot of the other.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Housewives' houses.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: But I think she made a good point. She's like,
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: you know, my parents paid for the first wedding. They're
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: not going to pay for the second.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Right. So there's this budget, right? And it's a lot
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: of money. Listen, I'm throwing a party. I'm planning Gabby's wedding.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Throw in a party for Frankie here, which is as
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: big as a wedding. Yeah. It's a lot of money.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: You're not getting underneath under on a cheap and $ 300
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: a head. It's a lot. Yeah.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, I don't know.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: I also, but I like them as a couple. I
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: like this conversation. I like, do we want to get
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: in a bigger house? Do we want to, what do
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: we want to do?
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: They want to do what they can afford.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: No, that's not. They have too many kids. He has
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: probably his attorney bills from the ex-wife fighting with him
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: all the time.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: They've broken up over it already. And but, you know,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: they really they do love and care about each other.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: And then you go and now you see there's that
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: they're worrying about how to budget for a wedding. And
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: then you look at a Heather. looking at her 11,000
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: square foot condo that she bought underneath her other condo.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: And it's just so crazy, all of it.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like every time I'm watching Heather,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: and then we'll get back to Carmela and Dani, but
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: this all kind of goes together because the juxtaposition between
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: the two places. I feel like Heather is constantly auditioning
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: for Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Like, this is the
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: audition tape.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Here we go. Send it in.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Like.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Does she even have to audition at this point if
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: they wanted her? They know she could pop up there anytime.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, because she is, like, rich.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, and then the fact that she's like, Terry
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: doesn't know anything about the finances. I'm like, she's got
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: shit under lock over there. And then her mom's like,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: let's paint the ceilings black.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Well, mom.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: actually, I mean, I've seen black ceilings. And then he's like,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: what is this, a coffin?
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: What is this, a coffin?
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: And then it did make me laugh when she was like,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: if this was my mom's house, there'd be tchotchkes, a
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: grandfather clock.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: My mother's a hoarder. I'm like, you haven't seen a
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: hoarder parent yet. Come to my dad's house.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Come over to where you can't even get into the
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: front door.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Like my dad. Yeah.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, but.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: You know, they.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Just were we're seeing a difference in lifestyle here. It's
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: just it is what it is.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: But they're still all friends. They could still like hanging
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: in the same group. And I love that. I love that.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: There's all different levels of wealth here. And and it
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: was weird to see everyone has their own problems outside
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: of whether they have money or not.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: But know what's weird?
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: I don't even find it when Heather's talking about money.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'm just so used to it. I don't find
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: it as her bragging. She's so matter of fact about it.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: But like some people really bothers me when they talk
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: about money.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: I like to hear what things cost.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: And it doesn't bother me because I learn from it.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: So I learned that if I don't have it, I
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: know how much something should cost if I go to
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: buy it. Get my point?
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get your point.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: That never pisses me off.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't bother me either.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: And then in the middle of this, Carmel and Danny
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: go out for date night.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I just spit out of my nose.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I didn't see it, though.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Danny chose to a fresh start with
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: gritted teeth.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: And then he wants you to get married. She's like,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: why should we get married?
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: You've already been married too many times, dude.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: She's like, you've been cut off.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: She's like, essentially they talk about couples therapy and, you know,
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Carmela's trust is broken. Carmela agrees to try, but if
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: they can't resolve this, they're done. We know now they're done.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Carmela just confirmed to Page Six that she and Danny
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: have broken up.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I don't like that. Okay. And Carmela was like hanging
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: on words. So she saw he was supposed to go
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: see someone or he was supposed to meet a woman
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: for something. She's like, what are you meeting him for?
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: He goes, it's for a building. And she's like, did
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: you ever go out with her? Well, I was supposed to.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: At first he said no, because he's nervous.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: And she's like, well, he's like, well, I was supposed to,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: but then I didn't or whatever. She's like, see, you're lying.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: You're lying. I was in a relationship like that one time.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: It'll like, no, no, it drives you insane.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Because they're constantly calling you a liar. Even if
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: you're not lying and making stuff up, like you lied
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: about that. Oh, you made me nervous to answer you.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: But also you made me nervous to answer you because
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: there is a lie to what I'm telling you, but
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I just don't want drama. So I'm just going to
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: try and say it the easiest way possible.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of things here, Teddy.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: There's, I.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Don't call it a lie when somebody makes you nervous
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: to speak or nervous to answer, right? That's like an
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: under pressure. Like you don't know how to explain yourself
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: because no matter what you say, now they're calling you
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: a liar before.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: But I'm sorry, Dolores, if you asked Paul right now,
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: if Paul said, I'm going to a meeting right now
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: and you were like, oh, with who? And he's like, oh,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: this realtor. And then you said to him, Which I
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: doubt think you would. This wouldn't come to my thought process,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: but did you used to date her?
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I don't talk.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: And he said no, then yes, you would be pissed.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I think I should start asking that.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Did you date her? Now we're just going to ask everyone.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Are you talking to her? Did you date her? Are
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: you talking to her or are you just.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Um, were you talking to her or were you dating
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: or were you like, I'm going to have to like,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: we're going to have to call them to see what level.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: What is living together, but not being married? What is
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: that called? Just living together.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Um, well that's up until November. So live together. Yeah.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know. We could be wrong. Who knows what
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: the younger generation calls it to get up with the
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: times here. We got to figure it out.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: But then we see writing on the wall. I'm like,
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: these two are done. Um, which then I think is
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: going to make for a better housewife for Carmela. Then
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Tamara visits Vicky to figure out what's going on with her.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Vicky finally lets her walls down and gets emotional saying
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: she hasn't gotten where she is by sitting on her ass.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: So being made fun of for working strikes a nerve.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Vicky shares that she, this, okay. Her saying the, she,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: you know, she's working hard. That part didn't resonate with
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: me too much. It didn't pull up my heartstrings, but
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: where the heartstrings got pulled is where Vicki shares with
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Tamara that she feels less than and fearful of having
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: another failed relationship after three engagements. And that's why the
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Mike comments are so hurtful. And Tamara's a really good
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: friend here.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: She is. Tamara said everything right. Again, I'm going to
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: say that I feel like I've hit behind things in
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: my life at times too, not to face the reality
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: of things. She hides behind her work at this stage
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: in her career and her business. She doesn't have to
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: be doing things when she's doing them. You mean you
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: don't have an assistant answering your emails? You mean you
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: don't have you have to get right back? You're not
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: a brain surgeon. You're not a surgeon. You're not getting
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: called into work because there was a horrible, God forbid,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: a horrible accident. You're a fucking answering an email. You
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: don't have to do it there. But she hides behind
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: all that. I'm not a psychologist. I'm not. Really?
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I could have sworn you were.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, you did. You busted my balls right now. I
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: know you are. But I'm just saying, like, I'm looking
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: at her like there were times in my life where
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to stop. Because if I stopped, I'd
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: realize the reality of my life, which is what at
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: the time could have been. I could have been lonely or...
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: broke or worried or whatever shit ass fucking situation i
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: was in which most of the time was shit ass
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: but um tamra tamra i thought had a major breakthrough
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: on why vicky's doing all this and now i feel
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: like i'm glad i didn't hate her through all this.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Well i'm glad that it For one, it was nice
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: to see them show Tamara being this way because I
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: think they so often want to show her in another way.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: But she's like, you're a badass. Like, what is there
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: to feel this about? You know, like she's boosting her up.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: She's like, you're Vicky fucking Gunvalson.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: You've got this. And you could tell that's what made Vicky.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Those words of affirmation is what made Vicky open up
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: to her and say that she's scared.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: She's scared. I mean, all in all, the biggest fear
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: is she's scared of being alone.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I feel like she's had some really bad relationships, right?
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: We know from day one, she has a low self-esteem
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: and she doesn't feel pretty. She doesn't feel good because
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: maybe she hasn't been told that, or maybe, you know,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: the men in her life has made her feel less than.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, Tamara said something like you wasted 10 years
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: of your life with Brooks and Steve.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Right. So I think that because she, has a low
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: self-esteem that she's been with men who don't make her
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: feel great about herself.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: But then this is where I get confused because then
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: she's like, oh, well, Mike, he's always asking me what
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: I'm going to do every day. And do we get dinner?
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: And but I'm like, hold on. I don't think you
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: guys live together. I thought you lived in Orange County. Like,
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: is he coming back with her to Orange County?
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: They do live together.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: So they live together in both places.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Okay. But that part they have not made clear yet.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: No, the one in Orange County. I mean, the one
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: in the desert is his house, too.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: La Quinta is his, too.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't think the OCD house is.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: She's like, here's what it is. Like, I look at Vicki...
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: And from what she says, she's like, I made everybody's life.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: I made it nice for my kids. In the words
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: of Dorinda, I built a life by working to make
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: sure everybody was taken care of. And I just feel like,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: does anybody put her on a pedestal? No. And this
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: guy travels a lot for work. Listen to me. I
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: don't think things are great over there.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think things are great over there.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: And I don't like anybody dangling fruit in front of me,
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: making me feel like I have to be a good
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: girl to get what I, you know.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: I don't like her for that. That bothers me really bad.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Like, even if she was joking about the 90 days
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: or whatever it was, like, to me, that would really
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: bother me.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: You know what I would say? How about go fuck yourself?
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: And I've said that. You know, somebody saying, well, I'm
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: not going to get you this because... You don't deserve it.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't fucking want it. And go fuck yourself.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what I verbally have said to somebody. Yeah.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Don't dangle shit in front of my face.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: If you act exactly how I want you to act,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: then this could be yours. Fuck you.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: You know what? Fuck you. You know what? When somebody
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: says that to you, it will never be yours. Never.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: You will never catch up to that. When you get
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: to that point, it'll be something else. And then when
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: you get to that point, it'll be something else.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: And so I'm just scared she's going to have to
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: walk on eggshells.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Like if they do get married or when they do
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: get married, because I do think they probably will.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like she's going to have
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: to walk on eggshells.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: But I feel like a big part of it that
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: we don't get to see is what the show is
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: creating for the relationship.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Who knows what goes on behind closed doors? However, back
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: from when first episode she's in, Cabo or wherever in Mexico,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: wherever that is, she goes. And Puerto Vallarta, right? And
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: they're there and she's like, Mike's complaining that I'm here,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: but this and that, but I'm working. It's not always
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: about work. She hides behind work. Yeah. 100,000% hides behind work.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Because like he travels a lot for work too. What
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: does he care?
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Like, is he jealous of what she's going to do
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: or say if she's with her friends and she's whooping
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: it up? Is that why she's not whooping it up?
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Because she can't control exactly what she's thinking?
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: He's not jealous. What I don't think is, I feel
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: like in the same text as I'm looking at Emily
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: in her marriage, I'm saying there are people here that
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: are looking for attention from their significant other and accolades
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: and coddling and like acknowledgement. Just tell me I'm great.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Because you know what? I know why I think that.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Because I like that. I like to be told, Can
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: you tell me I look nice?
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, I like to, I like to feel it
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: more than I like to hear it. Like, you know,
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: you walk into a room and you look nice and that,
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: and your person like touches your back or like makes
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: it like, I like to feel it more than you
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: look nice.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Goes a long way. And you know, Vicky's thing, he's,
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: she's a little older and he's older. Yeah. They're like
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: an older couple.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: But I mean, all in all, I thought this episode
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: was significantly better than last week's.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: I think that I'm looking at this and it was
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: like a lot of kind of pivotal moments in this episode.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Emily's marriage came like this whole thing that what they
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: were talking about. And I could see like he wants
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: her to say, hey, you're great. And she's like, I
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: don't want to say it because he's not saying it
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: to her.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Like she's not giving it back because she's not getting it. Yeah.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: So it's yeah, it's just we're seeing a lot of
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: home relationships in this season.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: We see a lot of relationships. We see a lot
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: of different like, you know, Gina's got a budget and
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: and Heather has no budget. But yet, you know, it's
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: everybody's life is all different. I like watching it.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: I like watching it, too.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: And next week is Carmela versus Vicky. Apparently that heats up.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: So make sure that you guys keep watching.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's time for Carmela to get mad.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: It's time, but you know, have a couple of vodka
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: sodas and let's go.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: There you go. Let's get it. But I, you know
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: what I did do? What? I was watching it with
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: my mom. I said, mom, this is Vicky. I go,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: but she has this moment that I'll never forget when
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: she got the call that her mom passed away. And I,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: I played it for my mother and my mother, she
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: was like, she was crying. She was like, you're just
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: never ready for that call. Yeah, no.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, there's... going through a lot. No one's
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: taking that away, but I think that's where you make
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: a decision. Can I, can I be on a television
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: show at this point in time? Right.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Or is it good for me? Can you do it?
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: You could walk onto any set, you know, but, is
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: it good for you?
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: But I'm loving it. I'm happy that the girls gave
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: us a little bit more this week. And, you know,
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: we'll be, don't worry, we'll be back next week to
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: discuss our more hot takes on next week's episode. Thanks, guys,
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: for tuning in to another episode of Two Teas in
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp, and Dolores Catania.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: I want you guys to write it and tell me
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: if you agree, disagree, what you think. Are you guys
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: catching on to anything?
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Like, do you agree with Dolores or do you agree
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: with me? I mean, this is no pressure here.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: That's heavy.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Love you.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Love you. Bye.