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- 0:58S6: Rob West. How you doing, my man?
- 1:00S7: Good morning. Great to be back with you.
- 1:02S6: Good morning. Good morning. Dun dun dun dun dun dun. Yeah, man,
- 1:07S6: it is so good to have you with us, Rob West.
- 1:11S6: Uh oh my goodness. I'm going to have you bookend
- 1:14S6: it for your hour. He's going to be with us
- 1:16S6: for an hour here. So if you know anything about
- 1:20S6: this man at all, you know that he has got
- 1:22S6: the answers on everything. With faith and finance. He is
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- 1:35S6: You don't want to miss them. Boy, the content is amazing.
- 1:39S6: He's also CEO of Kingdom Advisors. He's got a wealth
- 1:42S6: of knowledge. If you've got financial questions for Rob West,
- 1:47S6: tee em up right now. 800 555 7898 800 555
- 1:56S6: 7898 okay, I want to book in with this. We
- 1:59S6: just had doctor Mike Yarborough on, uh, Dallas Theological Seminary president,
- 2:04S6: and he just gave a great call out for share.
- 2:08S6: We start next week. No, I'm not doing an ask today.
- 2:10S6: We're going to give a number and a website in
- 2:12S6: case you're not here, but my heart this year I've
- 2:16S6: got one big focus and that's to move from six, seven, 8%
- 2:21S6: participation rate somewhere in there. Of those that listen to
- 2:23S6: Moody Radio to get us up around 15, Mark said,
- 2:27S6: what do you say, Young Thunder? I think he said,
- 2:29S6: let's get that thing up there around 17 or something.
- 2:32S2: He said, why, why go there? Let's go 18, 19. Yeah,
- 2:35S2: he was in it.
- 2:36S6: Yeah. And you know, the one thing I want to
- 2:40S6: come out of the shoot with you on is that,
- 2:43S6: in fact, I did a message on stewardship last week
- 2:46S6: at one of our campuses here in Chicago. I'm convinced
- 2:50S6: that most of what you have to talk about are
- 2:53S6: great tools, but those tools are only as good as
- 2:57S6: a heart passion to leverage them for the glory of God.
- 3:00S6: That's why I think the great teaching, even for stewardship,
- 3:03S6: is a great commandment. Love the Lord your God with
- 3:06S6: all your heart, soul, mind, and strength. Rob, what do
- 3:08S6: you say about that?
- 3:09S7: Well, I think you're exactly right. You know, even when
- 3:12S7: we give, save and invest, real money can quietly take
- 3:15S7: the role of our ultimate treasure. You know, it can
- 3:18S7: subtly capture our hearts and shape what we value and
- 3:22S7: what we fear and where we place our trust. The
- 3:26S7: opportunity is when God becomes our ultimate treasure. Everything changes.
- 3:30S7: Giving then becomes an act of joy rather than obligation.
- 3:35S7: Stewardship becomes a way of life that reflects the character
- 3:38S7: of a generous and loving father. And so I think
- 3:41S7: the invitation today and into share next week is to say, God,
- 3:46S7: I want you to be my ultimate treasure, and therefore
- 3:48S7: money is a tool. I was with John Maxwell a
- 3:51S7: couple of weeks ago at an event, and John said,
- 3:54S7: we need to be rivers, not reservoirs. We don't want
- 3:57S7: God's provision to stop with us. We want it to
- 3:59S7: flow through us into God's activity. And that's the opportunity
- 4:03S7: today for everyone listening who loves moody radio, who wants
- 4:07S7: the gospel in their communities and to the ends of
- 4:10S7: the earth. Partner with us and be that river. River,
- 4:13S7: the river of God's provision into God's activity.
- 4:17S6: I love it. So boom, crew, I'm going to be
- 4:19S6: real candid with you. Some of you aren't going to
- 4:21S6: be here next week, or you have a forgetter switch
- 4:23S6: like myself and Young Thunder. We've got the same forgetter switch.
- 4:27S2: But I'm 30. I'm really scared for later in life.
- 4:31S6: You're gonna be okay. Uh, but I just want you
- 4:35S6: to know our phone lines. We've got people standing by.
- 4:37S6: We're not going to go crazy until next Tuesday. But
- 4:40S6: I do want you to be part of a little
- 4:43S6: mini mini miracle that myself. And about 800 prayers are
- 4:48S6: going to be asking God for all next week. 800
- 4:50S6: people praying along these lines that will move from around
- 4:54S6: that 7% participation rate in what God's doing here to that?
- 4:59S6: 15 1617? Dare we believe God for 20% participation? It
- 5:06S6: would be huge. And I'm just asking you to jump in.
- 5:09S6: So if you're not going to be here or you've
- 5:11S6: got the spiritual gift of priming pumps, it's (800) 600-9624. I'll
- 5:16S6: say it slowly because some of you are prompted by
- 5:19S6: the spirit right now, 800, 696 24 800, 696 24
- 5:29S6: or Moody Radio.com. That's Moody Radio.com. And I really mean this.
- 5:36S6: Rob from the bottom of my heart, man, I don't want,
- 5:40S6: I love I love to preach to hearts, not to pocketbooks.
- 5:44S6: And that's what Jesus did. And man, if we get
- 5:48S6: a revival around that buddy, we're Katy bar the door.
- 5:51S6: You know what I mean?
- 5:53S7: That's exactly right. It's an incredible opportunity for the body
- 5:57S7: of Christ to come together and say, we're on mission
- 6:00S7: for the gospel, because the gospel changes everything. And so
- 6:03S7: let's lock arms, let's each do our part and let's
- 6:07S7: fund Moody Radio together.
- 6:08S6: Yeah. Love it, love it, love it. I just looked
- 6:10S6: at the board and we got someone brand new to
- 6:12S6: the crew that just jumped in here not too long
- 6:14S6: ago with the gift, so it's it's really cool. Okay.
- 6:17S6: We are taking your questions for Rob West right now.
- 6:22S6: 800 555 7898. Any question you have regarding finances? I've
- 6:29S6: never heard him stumped yet. Not yet. Try to stump
- 6:33S6: the stump. The expert.
- 6:36S2: Wouldn't that be crazy if someone used, like, a money term?
- 6:38S2: And Rob's like, I don't know what that is. I
- 6:40S2: can't help you.
- 6:41S6: I don't know if that's going to happen. Give him
- 6:43S6: a call right now. Give us a call 800 555 7898.
- 6:49S6: Really looking for calls on this one? Sometimes it's hard
- 6:51S6: to get the full nuance of your question. You can
- 6:54S6: go ahead and text one in. We'll try to communicate it.
- 6:56S6: But 800, 555, 78, 98. I'm going to go to
- 7:02S6: the phone lines. Pamela. First time caller Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
- 7:05S6: What do you say? Pamela.
- 7:08S8: Uh, good morning to you all. Um, thank you so
- 7:11S8: much for taking my question. I'm wondering, I have like
- 7:15S8: ten years on my mortgage, which I owe under 100,000,
- 7:19S8: and my house is worth about over 500. And I
- 7:25S8: need a loan right now to do certain repairs in
- 7:28S8: my home. Is it a good idea to get a
- 7:31S8: home equity loan or a HELOC? I'm going to hang
- 7:35S8: up so I can hear the answer to this question.
- 7:38S6: Or yeah, that's dynamite. Pamela. Uh, boom, sister, thanks for
- 7:43S6: your call. What do you say, Rob?
- 7:44S7: Yeah, I like a home equity line of credit here.
- 7:47S7: It's the most flexible option. It is secured by your home,
- 7:51S7: you are allowed to borrow only what you need and
- 7:55S7: the interest rate is variable, which is a good thing
- 7:58S7: in this environment because we've been seeing interest rates come down.
- 8:01S7: They were at seven and three quarters and then they
- 8:03S7: were at seven. And and then we just recently, although
- 8:06S7: we've ticked back up, we got under 6% for the
- 8:09S7: first time. We saw a five handle on 30 year
- 8:11S7: mortgages for uh, for the first time in years, which
- 8:15S7: is great. Uh, so this home equity line of credit
- 8:17S7: for these repairs, which is a proper use, I think,
- 8:20S7: for your home equity tied to a variable interest rate
- 8:23S7: means that interest rate is going to come down as
- 8:27S7: interest rates fall. And again, you only borrow what you
- 8:31S7: need as you need it. So if it takes six
- 8:33S7: months or nine months to get this done, you just
- 8:36S7: pull it out in, you know, increments to pay the
- 8:38S7: contractors as needed. And then you focus on trying to
- 8:42S7: get it paid off as quick as you can. So
- 8:45S7: I think this is a great option for you. Again,
- 8:47S7: a home equity line of credit and shop around. Make
- 8:50S7: sure you get at least three offers. You could go
- 8:52S7: to Bankrate.com. A lot of times banks will do no docs,
- 8:55S7: no fees. So they'll, you know, even waive the appraisal.
- 8:59S7: They'll waive the origination costs. So shop around to not
- 9:02S7: only check the rate but the cost themselves.
- 9:05S6: Great. Taking your questions here for Rob West 800 555
- 9:09S6: 7898 I got a question here, Rob, that came in
- 9:13S6: via text. I don't even know what they're talking about,
- 9:15S6: but I'm going to give it to you. Here it is.
- 9:17S6: I'm 60 years old and plan to retire in the
- 9:19S6: next five years, God willing. How do I reallocate my
- 9:22S6: TSP funds which are currently in the CSI international funds?
- 9:28S6: I know what that is. Do I need to put
- 9:30S6: a percentage in a more conservative g fund?
- 9:34S7: Yeah. Good question. Uh, so at age 60, you know,
- 9:38S7: we want to think in terms of about a 5050
- 9:42S7: mix of your allocation as a starting point. Uh, now
- 9:46S7: you could go more conservative or more aggressive from there,
- 9:49S7: but I think 50 over 50 is right for a
- 9:51S7: 60 year old who's probably somewhere between 5 and 10
- 9:54S7: years out from retirement. So the nice thing about the
- 9:56S7: TSP is it makes it really simple. You've got the G,
- 9:59S7: the F, the C, the S and the I. What
- 10:00S7: are those? G is the government fund. Think of that
- 10:03S7: like a money market. F is fixed income. That's bonds.
- 10:06S7: And then you've got three stock funds in the TSP.
- 10:09S7: You've got the C which is the the large caps
- 10:11S7: like the S&P 500. You've got the S and the I.
- 10:14S7: So I don't think you really need anything in G
- 10:17S7: I would split the portfolio half in the F. That's
- 10:20S7: the bonds. And then the other half you're going to
- 10:23S7: want to put in stocks. I'd probably put two thirds
- 10:26S7: in the C and then split the rest in the
- 10:29S7: S and the I.
- 10:30S6: Excellent. Rob West, our guest right now we are getting
- 10:34S6: a ton of questions in here. 800 555 7898 800
- 10:41S6: 555 7898 going back to the phone lines, George in Charleston,
- 10:46S6: South Carolina, what do you say, George?
- 10:49S9: Hey. Thanks, guys. I really appreciate the ministry. Love you. Um, now,
- 10:55S9: so for Rob, I. I'm 63 and my wife is 62.
- 11:00S9: She has a she has a pension. Um, I am,
- 11:04S9: I guess you could say underemployed. So money is getting tight,
- 11:07S9: and we're wondering if she should take her Social Security
- 11:11S9: at age 62. Coming up in a few months.
- 11:15S6: So, Rob, I know that.
- 11:17S9: Part time as well.
- 11:18S6: Okay. Thank you. George. Do you need more information? I
- 11:21S6: know you, you want to hold on as long as
- 11:22S6: you can on those kind of things, don't you, Rob?
- 11:25S7: I really do, unless you need the money or you
- 11:29S7: don't believe. You know, you have longevity on your side.
- 11:32S7: None of us know the day or the hour the
- 11:33S7: Lord will call us home. But if you have. If
- 11:35S7: you're in good health, you know there's something to be
- 11:38S7: said about longevity risk, which is the fact that you
- 11:41S7: will outlive your money. So the longer we can wait
- 11:44S7: to take that Social Security and get closer to, if
- 11:48S7: not at full retirement age or beyond. That's going to
- 11:51S7: ensure that you get that full check that you were
- 11:53S7: entitled to based on your work history, and then you're
- 11:56S7: going to get the cost of living adjustments on that
- 11:58S7: larger amount for the rest of your life, which could
- 12:00S7: be a game changer. Maybe not now, but in your
- 12:03S7: 80s and 90s. Having that larger base is going to
- 12:07S7: be really key. The key is how are you going
- 12:09S7: to pay the bills? And I know money is tight. So,
- 12:11S7: you know, if you could find a way to get
- 12:13S7: some extra income coming in and delay it, I would
- 12:16S7: absolutely do it. If you can't, it's an option.
- 12:18S6: Yeah, I was I was looking at that. The amount
- 12:22S6: of increase with delay is quite significant for some isn't
- 12:26S6: it Rob.
- 12:27S7: Oh yeah. It's about 8% a year that you are
- 12:29S7: taking a permanent reduction when you take it early. Okay.
- 12:34S7: So that's a meaningful amount. I mean, if you take
- 12:35S7: it at 62 versus 67, where most people have full
- 12:38S7: retirement age, it's about a 30% reduction.
- 12:41S6: That's significant. Okay. Along these same lines text came in here. Boy,
- 12:45S6: it's a long one, but I'm going to try to
- 12:47S6: crunch down. What your understanding of Social Security rule. If
- 12:50S6: someone has ten years of no reported income and they
- 12:53S6: wait until full retirement age of 67 to take financial benefits,
- 12:57S6: will that amount properly be recomputed with my husband's Social
- 13:01S6: Security benefit amount since he's the higher earner? What do
- 13:05S6: you say?
- 13:06S1: Mhm.
- 13:06S7: Yeah. So those years don't disappear. They're simply counted as
- 13:11S7: zero in the 35 year calculation. So if somebody has
- 13:15S7: 25 years of earnings Social Security will still calculate the
- 13:19S7: benefit using 35. Because that's what they do. They do
- 13:22S7: what's called high 35. Your highest 35 years of earnings
- 13:25S7: is just that. Ten of those are going to be
- 13:27S7: at zero. Now if you have 35 in addition to
- 13:31S7: the the ten where you had no income, then obviously
- 13:34S7: they'll take the highest of your 35 earnings years to
- 13:37S7: calculate your benefit. And each additional year you work even
- 13:42S7: once you start taking retirement, Social Security benefit will replace
- 13:47S7: one of those zero years and increase your benefit along
- 13:50S7: the way. And so that's one of the things that
- 13:52S7: will work for you if you keep working.
- 13:54S6: Excellent. All right. A quick one here. Would Jesus invest
- 13:57S6: in Bitcoin.
- 14:01S3: Ah hold it I love it. Oh I love that.
- 14:06S7: Oh you know when I look at God's word uh
- 14:12S7: Proverbs 1311 comes to mind. Wealth gained hastily will dwindle.
- 14:16S7: But whoever gathers little by little will increase it. Uh,
- 14:20S7: you know, I think just the, the speculative, volatile nature
- 14:24S7: of Bitcoin would, uh, would cause him to pass, in
- 14:27S7: my view, a little too speculative.
- 14:30S6: Foxes have holes, birds have nests. But the Son of
- 14:33S6: Man has no place to lay his head. I think
- 14:36S6: he was pretty secure. Secure in his retirement plan, if
- 14:39S6: you ask me. Oh my goodness. All right. More questions
- 14:42S6: for Rob West. They're coming in like crazy right now.
- 14:45S6: You can call or text (800) 555-7898. 800 555 7898.
- 14:56S1: You've got questions. They've got answers. It's Ask the Experts
- 15:00S1: week with Carl and crew.
- 15:03S6: I'm going to confer a doctorate on them for today.
- 15:05S6: Doctor Rob West is with us right now. How about that?
- 15:07S6: Rob little confer.
- 15:09S7: See if I can get my kids to call me
- 15:11S7: that when I come down to breakfast in the morning.
- 15:14S6: Rob.
- 15:14S7: What? That tells me that won't go very well.
- 15:17S6: Oh, faith. Faith and finance. And we're going to have
- 15:19S6: links for you and everything, but we got a lot
- 15:21S6: of questions pouring in here. 800 555 7898 we rarely
- 15:26S6: do this in the mornings, but boy, this is fun. Uh,
- 15:29S6: somebody starts with college is outrageous. Yes. And amen. My
- 15:34S6: daughter goes away soon. We locked up 100 K in
- 15:37S6: a seven month CD to earn some extra cash. We
- 15:40S6: saved some in bright directions. 529 uh, any other way
- 15:45S6: to invest to make our money work for us?
- 15:48S7: Mm. No, I think you're on the right track here.
- 15:51S7: I mean, the key is the time horizon, right? So
- 15:52S7: if we have less than five years on the time horizon,
- 15:55S7: which you will, because that money is going to need
- 15:58S7: to go out over the next four years, then you
- 16:00S7: really want to keep it on the most conservative end
- 16:03S7: of the spectrum. The return is less about the return
- 16:07S7: on your money, and it's more about the return of
- 16:09S7: your money. So we don't want your money invested in something.
- 16:13S7: And then all of a sudden we find ourselves at
- 16:15S7: a recession and the market's down 20 or 30% and
- 16:18S7: you're selling at a loss. So I think you're talking CDs,
- 16:21S7: you're talking treasuries, you're talking high yield savings. Those things
- 16:25S7: that are going to give you safety, liquidity, but also
- 16:28S7: a decent rate of return. In the meantime.
- 16:30S6: Get a question here. I've seen this hack, uh, being
- 16:34S6: spoken of all over the internet, and they're asking, what
- 16:37S6: do you think, Rob, of the theory to take Social
- 16:40S6: Security early and invest it. I've got a follow up question.
- 16:44S6: What's the percentage watermark you have to hit each year
- 16:47S6: to make that financially responsible?
- 16:50S7: Rob yeah, yeah. The challenge with that is if in fact,
- 16:54S7: you're giving up 8% a year. And keep in mind, uh,
- 16:58S7: you know, you've got to live about 12 years beyond, uh,
- 17:04S7: the period you start taking it in order to be
- 17:07S7: paid back in the form of a higher check for
- 17:10S7: what you gave up in the years you didn't take it.
- 17:13S7: So we're assuming you've got a what I'll call a
- 17:16S7: normal life expectancy, which for men and women is about
- 17:19S7: 82 and 83, respectively. Today. Once you hit age 65,
- 17:24S7: that's your life expectancy. And so if you out, you know,
- 17:27S7: if you live the normal life expectancy, then you're going
- 17:31S7: to be better off waiting. Because the reality is, if
- 17:33S7: you take that money and you invest it in a
- 17:36S7: taxable account, you've got to pay the capital gains and
- 17:40S7: then get a return. That's better than the increase you're
- 17:43S7: getting annually from Social Security by waiting, which again, we
- 17:46S7: said is about 8%. So you're going to have to
- 17:48S7: get north of 9% in order to pay the taxes
- 17:52S7: and then make up the difference. And, you know, I
- 17:55S7: think you're just better off getting that that higher check
- 17:58S7: from Social Security. And again, you're now starting with a
- 18:01S7: higher watermark, which means all future cost of living adjustments
- 18:05S7: are on that bigger number as well.
- 18:07S6: Excellent. Okay. Ton of questions. I'm going to get to
- 18:10S6: as many as we can. Wendy and Davie, Florida. What
- 18:13S6: do you what's your question for Rob?
- 18:16S10: Good morning. Um, I just basically I'm a teacher. Um,
- 18:20S10: I don't have a huge income, but I've invested in
- 18:23S10: a couple of empty lots, like, years ago, and they're
- 18:26S10: they've gone up quite a bit significantly, and it seems
- 18:29S10: to be the only thing I really understand for some reason.
- 18:32S10: Do you think in general, that's a pretty safe way
- 18:35S10: to invest in things like, you know, Quarter Acres? Or
- 18:38S10: is it better to do something like mutual funds or stocks?
- 18:41S6: We got a land baron here, Rob.
- 18:43S7: I love it. You know, I love the idea of
- 18:46S7: you investing in real estate. Obviously, you've done well. And
- 18:49S7: you're right, there's something about being able to go out
- 18:51S7: and and put your hands in the dirt and see
- 18:53S7: what you own, as opposed to something that's kind of
- 18:56S7: out there, you know, trading on an exchange, and you
- 18:59S7: can't really get your arms around it. Um, the upside
- 19:02S7: is just what you said. I mean, you can have
- 19:04S7: some nice growth there. The risks are, number one, there's
- 19:07S7: no income. So if you were to start slowly investing
- 19:11S7: in rental properties, not only do you get the appreciation,
- 19:13S7: but you get the cash flow. Um, they're harder to sell.
- 19:17S7: Land is harder to sell than houses. They're very market
- 19:21S7: dependent as well. The value depends on future development in
- 19:25S7: that particular area. And if there's no infrastructure, you know,
- 19:29S7: like roads or utilities or zoning, you know, that can
- 19:33S7: put a damper on the value over time. So I
- 19:37S7: would say you've done well. You know, let's keep those. Um,
- 19:41S7: and then maybe diversify by starting to invest in a
- 19:45S7: properly diversified stock and bond portfolio. And if you need
- 19:48S7: some help with that, you could connect with a certified
- 19:50S7: Kingdom advisor at Find a Comm or our friends at
- 19:54S7: Sound Investing. Org could give you some suggestions, but I
- 19:57S7: think having both buckets working for you is the best
- 20:00S7: plan long term.
- 20:02S6: Uh, quick question, Rob, with regard to economy, how does property, uh,
- 20:07S6: raw land or real estate track with the general economy?
- 20:12S6: Does it track pretty? Does it parallel stocks and the
- 20:17S6: kind of the mood of the economy?
- 20:19S7: Yeah. Uh, yes. I mean, there are different factors. Overall,
- 20:23S7: the economy's strength is important. Interest rates obviously play a
- 20:28S7: key part. Um, and so you have to, you know,
- 20:31S7: just look at that over time. Historically now, this has
- 20:34S7: not been true recently because we've had a dramatic run
- 20:36S7: up in housing prices. But historically, stocks do about 9%
- 20:42S7: a year on average with dividends. Residential real estate has
- 20:45S7: done closer to five. And so, you know, if you
- 20:47S7: just look over the long haul a gap. Yeah, there's
- 20:50S7: a gap there. Now the rental income, if you're talking
- 20:54S7: about an investment property obviously can add more. I mean
- 20:58S7: depending on the property that could add three to even 8%
- 21:02S7: a year. Uh, you know, on top of that. And
- 21:05S7: so that can be nice. You've got to be careful
- 21:06S7: though not to use too much debt and get over levered.
- 21:09S7: But I would say historically having both asset classes working
- 21:13S7: for you stocks and bonds and real estate is a
- 21:15S7: good idea.
- 21:16S6: Good. Darren. First time caller. Chicago, Illinois. What's your question
- 21:19S6: for Rob West?
- 21:21S11: Yeah, guys. Thanks, Rob. Um, my father is 88 years old,
- 21:24S11: my mom's 83, and my dad just reached a point
- 21:28S11: where he, uh, my mom can't take care of him anymore.
- 21:31S11: And my parents, unfortunately, don't have any reserves. They don't
- 21:34S11: have any money at all. They're relying 100% on Social Security.
- 21:38S11: My sister and I are trying to help out. What
- 21:40S11: advice do you have for us that you know? My dad,
- 21:43S11: I think, gets about 2200 a month. And I think
- 21:46S11: my mom gets about 1000 a month. Um, we're looking
- 21:50S11: to put him in a some kind of home, but
- 21:53S11: we need help kind of navigating those waters. What's your
- 21:56S11: advice for us?
- 21:57S1: Mhm.
- 21:58S7: Yeah. Well, I love that you're caring for your mom
- 22:00S7: and dad and walking alongside them. I would say there's
- 22:03S7: a couple of things. Number one is I would start
- 22:05S7: with Medicaid eligibility. So since they have very limited income
- 22:09S7: no reserves, Medicaid may ultimately be the program that helps
- 22:13S7: them pay for long term care if they need it. Now,
- 22:16S7: if you can cover that. Great. You know, they come
- 22:19S7: to live with one of you guys. Great. But at
- 22:21S7: some point, if they need nursing home care or some
- 22:23S7: in-home care services, you know, each state has different rules.
- 22:27S7: And so you're going to want to contact the local
- 22:30S7: Medicaid office. Uh, you know, to find out whether they
- 22:33S7: will qualify. And then you'd want to start looking at Medicaid,
- 22:36S7: accepting facilities. Not all nursing homes accept Medicaid. Many do.
- 22:40S7: And so you're going to want to look at whether
- 22:42S7: they accept Medicaid residents and whether that happens from day
- 22:46S7: one or only after. Private pay. And then you're going
- 22:50S7: to want to just, you know, get a budget together,
- 22:52S7: perhaps get an elder care attorney as well, just to
- 22:55S7: look over their affairs and make sure everything is set
- 22:57S7: up properly. Um, but I love the fact that you're
- 23:00S7: walking alongside them. And I think if you take these steps,
- 23:03S7: you know you'll be well positioned to make the decisions
- 23:06S7: down the road as needed.
- 23:07S6: Okay, I'm going to go lightning round on a couple
- 23:09S6: quick ones here. Rob, we got a woman texting in
- 23:11S6: saying I made the mistake of co-signing for my daughter's
- 23:14S6: student loans because she is unable to work. Struggling with
- 23:17S6: some mental issues right now. Uh, what is this mom
- 23:22S6: to do? There's a long backstory there, but interest rates
- 23:25S6: are high and I'm looking to refinance. What do you
- 23:28S6: say to this mama?
- 23:29S1: Mhm.
- 23:29S7: Yeah I know this is a tough one, and I'm
- 23:32S7: so sorry to hear about your daughter's struggles. Um, you know,
- 23:36S7: I would I would contact the loan servicer. If there
- 23:39S7: are mental health issues, the first step is to explain
- 23:42S7: the situation they may be able to offer if this
- 23:44S7: is needed. Forbearance, which is a temporary pause or deferment.
- 23:48S7: There could even be income driven repayment plans if they're
- 23:51S7: federal loans. You do want to know whether it's federal
- 23:54S7: or private, because there's more flexibility on the payment options
- 23:57S7: with the federal loans, private loans have fewer options. You
- 24:02S7: could look into a disability discharge. So if the mental
- 24:05S7: health condition is severe and prevents her from working, she
- 24:08S7: may qualify for a discharge on those. And then I
- 24:12S7: would say, you know, you just need to know that
- 24:14S7: you're legally responsible. So communicate early with the lender, avoid
- 24:19S7: missed payments if possible and explore, you know re repayment
- 24:23S7: adjustments if they're needed for you to stay in good standing.
- 24:27S6: Okay. Another quick one here. Grandparents talking. College 529 account
- 24:32S6: or tax free IRA for grandkids.
- 24:35S7: Yeah, I like the 529 a lot. You get that
- 24:37S7: tax free growth. You can put in a lot more
- 24:40S7: on an annual basis than you can with the IRA,
- 24:44S7: and you've got more flexibility, flexibility. If it's used for
- 24:47S7: qualified educational expenses, it comes out 100% tax free on
- 24:51S7: the growth, the after tax dollars going in. But the
- 24:54S7: growth is tax free. And if they don't use it
- 24:57S7: all they get it out. If they get a scholarship
- 25:00S7: or grant with no problem. But if it's still in
- 25:03S7: there and those scholarships and grants, they can either transfer
- 25:06S7: it to another grandchild or now they can roll it
- 25:09S7: into a Roth IRA over time, up to 35,000, and
- 25:13S7: set that child up for a nice nest egg for
- 25:16S7: the long term. So I think the 529 is the
- 25:18S7: winner there.
- 25:19S6: Okay. AI investments thumbs up, thumbs down Rob.
- 25:24S7: Yeah. You know AI is has gotten really overheated and
- 25:27S7: it's been selling off as of late. I would just say,
- 25:31S7: you know, be careful there. We don't want to be
- 25:32S7: too highly concentrated in one particular sector, especially one that's
- 25:36S7: as high flying. I mean, think about AI right now,
- 25:40S7: kind of like the.com, you know, in, uh, 1999, 2000.
- 25:45S7: I mean, you know, when Pets.com, uh, put all they
- 25:48S7: did was put.com at the end of their name and,
- 25:50S7: you know, went through the roof. And, you know, we
- 25:52S7: eventually found out which ones are the winners and the losers.
- 25:55S7: We're a little bit in that situation right now in
- 25:58S7: terms of which companies are going to be the winners.
- 26:01S7: There's still a lot of carnage that's going to happen
- 26:03S7: in that space, so just make sure it's an appropriate
- 26:06S7: allocation only to the the higher, uh, you know, more
- 26:11S7: aggressive portion of your stock portfolio.
- 26:13S6: Okay. This is a common one, Rob I have parent
- 26:17S6: plus loan for my daughter's college. She graduated five years ago.
- 26:21S6: Payments are becoming unaffordable. I'm currently in a plan where
- 26:24S6: every two years the payments will increase. Is there anything
- 26:27S6: I can do to make payments lower? And I'm going
- 26:31S6: to add a question to her question. And that is,
- 26:34S6: should I be asking my kid to help with this thing?
- 26:37S7: Hmm. Yeah, yeah. Great question. Uh, you know, I would
- 26:41S7: say look at the current repayment plan. Uh, you know,
- 26:44S7: Parent plus loans are automatically put on that standard ten
- 26:47S7: year repayment plan, which has the highest monthly amount, uh,
- 26:50S7: if the loan was consolidated or if you're on a
- 26:53S7: graduated plan, payments can increase every two years. So just
- 26:56S7: know what you're dealing with there. Consider consolidating into a
- 27:00S7: direct consolidation loan. That's not going to help with the
- 27:03S7: interest rate, but it does open the door to additional
- 27:06S7: repayment options. And then I would say refinance with caution because, uh,
- 27:12S7: you know, you may be able to save some interest,
- 27:15S7: but you would potentially lose those federal protections in terms
- 27:19S7: of helping. I think it goes back to what was
- 27:21S7: that original agreement. Uh, you know, remember, you're on the
- 27:25S7: hook for this, but what was communicated, you know, in
- 27:28S7: terms of the plan early and we want to honor that.
- 27:31S7: But if the, you know, kids were the one taking
- 27:34S7: responsibility from this from day one, I'd hold them accountable
- 27:37S7: to that.
- 27:37S3: Yeah.
- 27:38S6: Tough stuff, but good information. Asking the experts all week
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- 28:05S6: Rob Quick one came in here. Fiduciary or just financial planner?
- 28:10S6: What do you say?
- 28:11S7: Yeah, I mean, it depends on what you're looking for.
- 28:13S7: If you're just looking for a financial plan, you're hiring
- 28:16S7: someone to actually do that comprehensive plan, then that's not necessary.
- 28:22S7: If you are looking for somebody to manage your assets,
- 28:26S7: then I like you having a fiduciary. And that's just
- 28:29S7: simply a term that means they're legally obligated to put
- 28:32S7: their your interests above their own in terms of how
- 28:36S7: they manage and recommend certain products or investments.
- 28:40S6: Ask the experts. Rob West, one of our faves with
- 28:42S6: us right now. I can't believe you do this. Every day.
- 28:46S6: They come at you, don't they, buddy? This is something.
- 28:48S1: Else.
- 28:49S3: You know.
- 28:50S7: The team calculated it the other day. I think I've
- 28:52S7: answered like 30,000 questions over the last six years.
- 28:57S3: Oh my.
- 28:58S7: Goodness. But, uh, you know, the great thing is that
- 29:02S7: most people who are calling I mean, this is what's
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- 29:14S7: What does God want me to do? They want to
- 29:16S7: find God's heart as it relates to their journey with him.
- 29:21S7: And that, you know, in my little hour of the day.
- 29:24S7: It's really just about how do I find God's heart
- 29:26S7: for my finances? And so it's such a privilege to
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- 29:44S6: 800 555 7898. Going back to the phone lines Gina
- 29:49S6: in Carpentersville, Illinois, what's your question for Rob?
- 29:54S12: Okay, I understand what you were saying earlier about delaying
- 29:57S12: taking Social Security, but is there ever a situation when
- 30:01S12: it would be wise to draw early, such as having
- 30:04S12: your spouse, your husband be 11 years older and already drawing,
- 30:09S12: and most likely you would outlive him and convert to
- 30:12S12: his higher range? Anyway, I'm just wondering if that might
- 30:16S12: be the case at certain times.
- 30:18S7: Yes. Uh, you know, there certainly are situations where it
- 30:23S7: can make sense, and a spouse that's older and already
- 30:27S7: receiving benefits can absolutely be one of them. Uh, so
- 30:31S7: what would those look like? Well, generally, again, delaying increases
- 30:35S7: your benefit. So from a math standpoint waiting produces that
- 30:39S7: larger lifetime benefit however shorter life expectancy. So someone has
- 30:43S7: health concerns or a family history that could mean you
- 30:47S7: take it early. You have immediate income needs to your
- 30:50S7: point spousal age difference. So if a spouse is much
- 30:53S7: older and already drawing benefits, the household may already have
- 30:58S7: a Social Security income stream. And so starting earlier can
- 31:02S7: improve that household cash flow, reduce reliance on savings. And
- 31:07S7: if you coordinate that with your retirement savings, you may
- 31:10S7: not have to draw from your investments, you know, especially
- 31:13S7: during a market downturn. So I think absolutely, there are
- 31:17S7: reasons where taking it early does make sense.
- 31:20S6: This is great content, Sandra. First time caller from Tampa, Florida.
- 31:24S6: What's your question for Rob West?
- 31:27S13: Good morning. Hi, Rob. Um, my question is I'm with
- 31:31S13: the school board. I've been with the school board for
- 31:32S13: 24 years, and I own a small, um, mobile home park.
- 31:39S13: I have no dependents, so my my, uh, I pay taxes.
- 31:46S13: A lot of taxes at the end of the year.
- 31:48S13: So I'm kind of ready to retire, but I'm undecided
- 31:51S13: if I should go ahead and retire and get the
- 31:54S13: Social Security. Okay. But at the same time, I still
- 31:58S13: don't qualify for the health insurance.
- 32:02S7: Okay. Yeah. And what did you say your age was?
- 32:07S13: I'm 64. I'll be 65 in October.
- 32:10S1: Okay.
- 32:10S7: Got it. Yeah. So in your situation here, um, you know,
- 32:15S7: you need to understand your timing options. So your full
- 32:18S7: retirement age is probably 67. So if you take it
- 32:22S7: at 64, you'd have a benefit roughly 20% lower than
- 32:28S7: if you take it at 67. So again, the longer
- 32:32S7: you wait, the higher that monthly check for life. So
- 32:34S7: you've got two potential income streams here. A school board
- 32:38S7: pension I'm assuming depending on your state system and then
- 32:41S7: the mobile home park income. So if the mobile home
- 32:44S7: park generates reliable income, that gives you flexibility to delay
- 32:49S7: Social Security and allow that benefit to grow. That would
- 32:52S7: be great. Now, you mentioned paying a lot in taxes.
- 32:55S7: You've got to think about that as well. If you
- 32:57S7: retire before taking Social Security, there could be a lower
- 33:01S7: income window where you may be able to take it
- 33:04S7: later at a higher benefit and manage your taxes more efficiently.
- 33:09S7: So I think at the end of the day, you
- 33:11S7: just need to figure out what is that retirement budget
- 33:14S7: going to look like and can I solve for it
- 33:17S7: with the state pension and the mobile home park income?
- 33:20S7: If so, let's delay. If not, then Social Security could
- 33:23S7: be your option there.
- 33:24S6: Yeah. Wonderful boy. I'm blown away here. The amount of
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- 33:48S6: 555 7898. Anonymous in Birmingham, Alabama. What's your question for
- 33:54S6: Rob West?
- 33:56S14: Uh, good morning. Uh, long time listener. I've got about
- 33:59S14: a million for my wife and I in retirement assets,
- 34:03S14: about another 400 in cash. And she wants to convert
- 34:07S14: everything to a Roth IRA now. So that's going to
- 34:10S14: be the long term best thing to do. And my
- 34:13S14: question is, what do you think?
- 34:15S7: Yeah. Uh, so this is a great question. Are you
- 34:18S7: guys still working at all?
- 34:22S14: I am.
- 34:23S1: Okay.
- 34:24S7: Yeah. So I mean, the reason people convert to Roth
- 34:27S7: is they pay the taxes now, not later. And so
- 34:31S7: future growth becomes tax free. And they also the Roths
- 34:34S7: don't have required minimums. The key is does it make
- 34:37S7: more sense to pay the taxes now or later. And
- 34:40S7: you know, the reason you would do it is if
- 34:42S7: you think tax rates are going up down the road,
- 34:45S7: they certainly may. Or if you believe you'll be in
- 34:49S7: a higher bracket later. Um, the challenge is you're still working,
- 34:53S7: and so you're probably at the peak of your earning
- 34:56S7: potential right here, paying a good bit of taxes. So
- 34:59S7: a Roth conversion on top of that is just going
- 35:01S7: to push that portion up into even higher brackets. And so,
- 35:07S7: you know, I would I would certainly go slow there. Um,
- 35:10S7: you've got a window between the time you retire and
- 35:13S7: when you take Social Security where you could start maybe
- 35:17S7: over several years doing a portion of this as a
- 35:20S7: Roth conversion. Because the other thing you need to be
- 35:22S7: careful on is when you push up your income, a
- 35:26S7: larger percentage of your Social Security becomes taxable, and you
- 35:28S7: can have something called Irma, which is where you earn
- 35:31S7: more and you pay premiums or surcharges on your Medicare.
- 35:36S7: And so I think that sweet spot is a portion
- 35:39S7: of this going to Roth and doing it between the
- 35:42S7: time you retire when your income drops and prior to
- 35:45S7: taking Social Security. But I would be careful there and
- 35:48S7: not do large amounts all at once.
- 35:51S6: Okay. Rob West is our guest right now. I had
- 35:54S6: a bunch of questions, and most of them were covered
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- 36:16S6: to 800 555 7898. I dug through the pile and
- 36:20S6: found this one. What are your thoughts on purchasing gold, Rob?
- 36:23S6: Is it worth it for the long term financial growth?
- 36:27S7: Yeah, I like gold. I mean, from my perspective and
- 36:30S7: what we've seen lately with this dramatic run up than
- 36:33S7: we had a pullback, I think just underscores this idea
- 36:36S7: is we don't want to overweight there. You know when
- 36:39S7: we have geopolitical uncertainty and we certainly have that you
- 36:42S7: know when we have a D a dollar that's declining
- 36:45S7: in value. When we have a loose monetary policy gold
- 36:50S7: becomes in vogue. And it has been you see a
- 36:53S7: lot of ads on them, but people tend to kind
- 36:55S7: of rush into this area and overweight. I think you've
- 36:58S7: got to be careful there. It doesn't produce an income
- 37:01S7: and it historically has not done as well over the
- 37:04S7: long haul. As a properly diversified stock and bond portfolio.
- 37:08S7: There's been really long periods of time where gold was
- 37:11S7: flat to down. And so when you just look at
- 37:14S7: that long term perspective, it doesn't do as well. So
- 37:18S7: what do I do with that? Well I would do
- 37:19S7: no more than 10%. I would do that. First five
- 37:23S7: is what I'll call your forever allocation. You buy it.
- 37:25S7: You take physical possession, you keep it, you pass it down.
- 37:28S7: You don't ever sell it. If you want to go
- 37:31S7: from five up to ten. And I wouldn't do more
- 37:32S7: than that. Consider using one of the gold exchange traded
- 37:35S7: funds where you actually don't have to take possession, but
- 37:38S7: you still get the overall rise in the metal as
- 37:42S7: a part of your investment returns.
- 37:43S6: How how concerned are you with regard to the security
- 37:49S6: of monies? We've had a few questions come in like this.
- 37:51S6: And I think sometimes there's a alarmism out there. We
- 37:56S6: know about FDIC, but what are what are how secure
- 38:00S6: are monies in all these investments.
- 38:03S7: Uh, yeah. I mean, so, you know, if we're talking
- 38:06S7: about market risk, there is no security. I mean, it
- 38:09S7: rises and falls based on the merits of the underlying investment.
- 38:13S7: So in the case of stocks, you're a small percentage
- 38:16S7: owner of a real company with sales and earnings. And
- 38:20S7: so it ultimately is about that. If we're talking about
- 38:22S7: the banking system, you know, FDIC has the backing of
- 38:26S7: the full faith and credit of the United States government.
- 38:28S7: And do we have our challenges economically? Sure. But we're
- 38:31S7: still the biggest economy in the world, and there's really
- 38:34S7: no one in the rear view mirror, especially in terms
- 38:37S7: of being able to replace the US dollar as the
- 38:41S7: the world's kind of de facto reserve currency. So I
- 38:45S7: would just say, you know, when we're we're looking at
- 38:47S7: the US versus everybody else, we're still in a really
- 38:51S7: strong position. Uh, but we have our challenges, namely our
- 38:55S7: growing national debt and, and our demographics, which, you know,
- 38:59S7: we just have having less and less babies. And that's
- 39:01S7: a that's a challenge long term.
- 39:02S6: It is. And China's live in that world right now
- 39:05S6: and it's hurting them. Uh, Tricia, first time caller Evanston, Illinois.
- 39:09S6: What's your question for Rob West?
- 39:11S8: Um, yeah.
- 39:12S15: So, um, I took out a pair of buffalo for
- 39:15S15: my son as he was matriculating through college, and then
- 39:19S15: he qualified for 100% total disability where his loans were forgiven.
- 39:26S15: So with that parent plus loan also fall under that
- 39:30S15: category since I took off the loan to help pay
- 39:33S15: for his college education.
- 39:35S3: Mhm.
- 39:36S7: Yes. Uh good question. So tell me about that. So
- 39:39S7: you said his were completely discharged.
- 39:42S15: Correct. Correct.
- 39:44S7: Okay. Yeah. Uh it can apply. So it, uh, so
- 39:48S7: if your son is, is considered, uh, permanently disabled and
- 39:54S7: he qualified for that, what the TPD what they call
- 39:57S7: the total and permanent disability discharge. Uh, you know, the
- 40:00S7: parent plus loans are legally your responsibility, so it doesn't
- 40:05S7: automatically discharge the parent plus loan. However, um, you know,
- 40:10S7: if someone else is, you know, involved here, it could.
- 40:13S7: But if it's if it's just your son, it doesn't
- 40:16S7: automatically come over to your loan because ultimately those are
- 40:19S7: your responsibilities. So his would go away. The parent plus
- 40:22S7: loans would not in most cases.
- 40:24S6: Is it would it be wise to appeal to your
- 40:27S6: the parent plus provider just to see Rob.
- 40:31S7: Totally. Yeah. So call the loan servicer and confirm whether
- 40:35S7: this particular loan qualifies for any special discharge or hardship options. Um,
- 40:41S7: but but just by virtue of the fact that his was, uh,
- 40:45S7: eliminated due to his disability would not carry over automatically
- 40:49S7: to the parent. Plus.
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- 41:48S16: Yes, sir. Um, so, you know, I was an addict
- 41:51S16: for 30 years, and I finally gave my heart to
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- 41:55S3: Sober. Um, yeah.
- 41:57S16: Well, you know, after 30 years, you know, not a
- 42:00S16: lot of work history and stuff. You know, I'm married now.
- 42:02S16: I'm trying to purchase a home as a first time buyer.
- 42:05S16: What are my future Retirement. Is there anything that you
- 42:09S16: know that I can start? Because it's like I've started
- 42:11S16: life at the age of 48. You know what I mean?
- 42:14S16: Yes and.
- 42:14S1: Yes.
- 42:15S16: You know, retirement, the things I can, steps I can
- 42:17S16: take to ensure that I do when I do retire
- 42:20S16: or something, you know, that I have that I can
- 42:23S16: survive out there. You know what I mean? For me
- 42:24S16: and my wife and.
- 42:26S6: Love your heart, Mac. And let me just say a
- 42:28S6: couple of things here. Number one, praise God you're in
- 42:31S6: the hands of God. He knows you. You know him. Secondly,
- 42:34S6: we can't ignore the fact that if we look at
- 42:37S6: the birds of the air and God cares for them,
- 42:40S6: that's not cheap, counsel, is it, Rob?
- 42:43S7: No, that is the reality that not only does God
- 42:46S7: own it all, but he is your provider. God is
- 42:49S7: the source of all that we have, not only the
- 42:53S7: the resources we have, but he is our provision literally.
- 42:57S7: And I couldn't agree more. Karl. Praise the Lord for
- 43:00S7: the fact that he has rescued, just like each of us. Uh,
- 43:04S7: out of that, uh, putting you in a new position
- 43:08S7: and standing before God, uh, through your trust in Jesus.
- 43:11S7: You know, what I would say is, uh, this is
- 43:13S7: an incredible accomplishment. I understand you wish you could have
- 43:17S7: done things differently in the past, but the question is,
- 43:19S7: what is the next faithful step moving forward? So let's
- 43:22S7: start with stability. We've got to create a simple monthly budget.
- 43:25S7: We've got to build an emergency fund. Even starting with $1,000.
- 43:30S7: Goal is great. Ultimately trying to get to three months expenses,
- 43:33S7: avoid new debt. Understand your social security outlook. So you
- 43:37S7: need 40 credits, ten years of work to qualify, and
- 43:40S7: every year you can have qualifying benefits up to 35.
- 43:44S7: That's going to help you start saving something. Even 50
- 43:47S7: or $100 a month is great. Take your time in
- 43:50S7: buying a house you know. Don't rush into that and
- 43:54S7: buy a house prematurely when you're not ready, where you
- 43:57S7: can go in with a 20% down payment. Renting is okay. We.
- 44:01S7: Last thing I'd want is for you to get overextended
- 44:03S7: because you buy too soon. And then I would say
- 44:06S7: build a support system. You know, we'd be happy to help.
- 44:09S7: I'd be happy to connect you with one of our
- 44:11S7: certified Christian financial counselors, uh, to walk alongside you to
- 44:15S7: answer your questions. Pray with you, get that budget set up.
- 44:18S7: We'll pay for it. Uh, there won't be any cost
- 44:20S7: to you. If you're interested in that, just have the
- 44:22S7: team get you connected with us, and we'd be happy
- 44:25S7: to provide that.
- 44:25S3: Yeah.
- 44:26S6: It's beautiful. Rob. Okay, uh, we're going to take more
- 44:29S6: questions for Rob West, but I'm going to banner ad
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- 45:19S6: Boy, we're getting crushed here. Okay, I'm going to get
- 45:21S6: in as many as we can here in the next
- 45:23S6: couple of minutes. Mac and Florida. What's your question for
- 45:25S6: Rob West?
- 45:27S17: Uh, I'm on a disability budget. Um, 58 years old.
- 45:33S17: I haven't been financially literate. No one ever taught me
- 45:38S17: any of that. So while waiting to get approved for disability,
- 45:42S17: I relied on loans and, you know, cash, app loans,
- 45:47S17: those kind of things. So I'm stuck in this vicious cycle.
- 45:50S17: Every month my budget is maxed out and I can't
- 45:53S17: get out of debt. What would you suggest?
- 45:55S6: Thank you. Mac.
- 45:57S7: Absolutely. Uh, so glad you called. And I'd love to
- 46:00S7: do the same thing I did for the previous caller.
- 46:02S7: I would be delighted to connect you once we're done
- 46:05S7: here today with one of our certified Christian financial counselors.
- 46:08S7: These are men and women who are trained, uh, who
- 46:11S7: love Jesus, who are stewardship counselors to come alongside you,
- 46:14S7: help you put a budget together, answer your questions, help
- 46:17S7: you make a debt repayment plan, and it won't cost
- 46:20S7: you one penny. We'll cover.
- 46:22S3: That.
- 46:22S7: Yeah. So just let the team know, you know, here's
- 46:24S7: the key. Start with the simple monthly picture, uh, which
- 46:28S7: is just what is my monthly income? The disability, social security,
- 46:32S7: whatever you have coming in, start with the essential expenses.
- 46:36S7: So we got to keep a roof over your head.
- 46:37S7: We got to keep food on the table. We got
- 46:39S7: to keep gas in the car to get to work.
- 46:41S7: If you're working. If not, uh, you know, that's not
- 46:43S7: as much of a priority. Utilities and medicine. I mean,
- 46:47S7: we got to start with the basics, and then we've
- 46:49S7: got to make that balance and cover the minimum debt payments.
- 46:52S7: So a very simple written budget. You'll work on that
- 46:55S7: with the counselor. Then we we prioritize beyond that talking
- 47:00S7: with the lenders. So since these loans were taken out
- 47:02S7: during a difficult time, explain the situation. Let's see if
- 47:05S7: we can get you in a hardship program. Let's see
- 47:07S7: if we can get payments lowered. Temporary payment reductions. Let's
- 47:11S7: look for non-profit help. Uh, you know, maybe your church
- 47:14S7: has some assistance. Um, maybe there's somebody listening today that
- 47:18S7: would want to reach out to us at Faith fi
- 47:19S7: to help this brother. Um, but look for assistance programs.
- 47:23S7: There's local assistance programs for utility assistance, property tax relief,
- 47:28S7: prescription assistance. We need to explore every possible option to
- 47:33S7: get you back onto a solid financial footing. God is
- 47:36S7: your provider. He can be trusted. He'll journey with you.
- 47:39S7: And we're going to help.
- 47:40S6: And thank you, Rob, from the bottom of our heart.
- 47:42S6: Thank you. Mac, you stay on the horn. We're going
- 47:44S6: to get you hooked up. Just having someone to sit
- 47:47S6: down and talk with, who knows what they're doing is
- 47:49S6: just cool. Mac, I love your heart, man. Um, really
- 47:52S6: quickly here. We're not going to be able to get
- 47:54S6: to any more questions. And this is what I feel
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- 48:02S6: I want to get people there right now. Text money
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- 48:11S6: What's there? Rob?
- 48:12S7: Yeah. Lots of great content. And it's not, you know,
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- 48:37S7: manage your spending day to day and build ribbits rhythms
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- 48:44S7: if you're in a situation where you need an advisor
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- 48:56S7: it can cover the gamut in terms of giving you
- 48:59S7: practical advice informed by God's Word.
- 49:02S6: I want to do it with you here, Rob. Why share?
- 49:05S6: Next week, uh, our participation rate is six, seven, 8%. Why?
- 49:09S6: Why do we want to see that? So increase? Give
- 49:11S6: us your best 20s on that.
- 49:13S7: You know, if giving Carl is just another obligation, it
- 49:15S7: will always feel heavy. Uh, but the reality is that
- 49:20S7: scripture starts generosity somewhere far deeper than our budgets. It's
- 49:24S7: with our identity. Ephesians two. By grace you have been
- 49:26S7: saved through faith. Faith. It is the gift of God.
- 49:30S7: And so we need to remember that we are the
- 49:32S7: recipients of mercy and forgiveness and adoption and daily bread,
- 49:36S7: and a future with Christ that changes everything because grace
- 49:40S7: moves giving from pressure to privilege. So the opportunity next
- 49:43S7: week is to partner with us, to give as unto
- 49:46S7: the Lord, and take the gospel to the ends of
- 49:48S7: the earth, because the gospel changes everything.
- 49:50S6: Rob West, thank you for that appeal. I love you brother,
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