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The entire broadcast from Monday 05/18/26 · Ron Verb

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Speaker 1: and Ron Verp. Here's a question of the day here
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Speaker 1: that's from your perspective. So this is a very individual question.
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Speaker 1: diagnostic tests that I'm going to be running here today.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't that sound like I'm a medical professional? I'm going
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Speaker 1: to be running a very specific diagnostic medical test here today.
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Speaker 1: Not medical test, but here's what we're going to do.
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Speaker 1: From an economic standpoint, I want to talk a little
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Speaker 1: bit about economics with you here today. All right? And
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Speaker 1: from your perspective of things, because I think, in my estimation...
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Speaker 1: I think the economy's in a tough spot for a
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Speaker 1: lot of you listening. And when I say a lot,
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Speaker 1: I'll go further than that. For the majority of you listening,
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Speaker 1: I think the economy's in a tough situation. And it's
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Speaker 1: a very individual perspective that you might have on it.
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Speaker 1: We talk about obviously high oil prices as a result
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Speaker 1: of the situation going on in Iran. But we also,
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Speaker 1: each individual household, and I talk about it so often,
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Speaker 1: we look at the cost of electricity has doubled. Electricity
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Speaker 1: has doubled. You'll probably notice that more this year with
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Speaker 1: your air conditioning than you've ever noticed it. So electricity
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Speaker 1: has doubled. Gasoline is high. Natural gas costs are high.
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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of stuff going on and food
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Speaker 1: prices are up there. So everywhere you look, prices are
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Speaker 1: going up or increasing. Groceries, cars, repairs, parts, services, energy.
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Speaker 1: And they keep going up and... your income doesn't keep
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Speaker 1: pace with it. Now, that doesn't matter if your income
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Speaker 1: is Social Security or your income is from a paycheck.
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Speaker 1: So that's my perspective as I sit here and I
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Speaker 1: talk to people on a regular basis. And from my perspective,
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Speaker 1: I think that the economy, what's going on right now,
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Speaker 1: has affected each and every one of you in a
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Speaker 1: noticeable fashion. Yes? No? The cost of everything. And so
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Speaker 1: as I point out to you, when all of this
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Speaker 1: stuff goes up in cost, you only have so much money,
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Speaker 1: you have to make cutbacks or sacrifices somewhere. Something you
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Speaker 1: have to do Differently because you only have so much
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Speaker 1: money and if everything costs a little bit more and
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Speaker 1: you have basically the same amount of money coming in
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Speaker 1: and in many cases you don't have a Bunch of
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Speaker 1: money to offset these increases most people are not getting
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Speaker 1: bonuses or Increases that's keep pace with inflation Including on
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Speaker 1: Social Security those bonuses aren't anywhere close and To what
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Speaker 1: the actual cost of inflation is.
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Speaker 4: So.
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Speaker 1: I'd like to have a little bit of an economic discussion.
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Speaker 1: With the class today boys and girls. That means you. Incidentally.
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Speaker 5: And.
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Speaker 1: From the perspective of. I don't sense the golden age
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Speaker 1: right now. When Trump was talking about the golden age.
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Speaker 3: So.
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Speaker 1: So. When I look around, I sense that a lot
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Speaker 1: of people are noticing this inflation and how it's affecting
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Speaker 1: them in their own households. Is that the case with you?
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Speaker 1: So it's a very individual thing. I mean, is that
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Speaker 1: the case with you? I sit and I mull this
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Speaker 1: over because, as I talk about so much on the program,
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Speaker 1: your property taxes have gone up substantially, and they will
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Speaker 1: go up again as a result of the re-evaluations going
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Speaker 1: on as we speak. So your property tax have gone up,
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Speaker 1: and they're going to go up more. Your utilities have
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Speaker 1: gone up substantially. Your gasoline cost has gone up. Grocery
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Speaker 1: costs have gone up. Insurance has gone up. Cost of
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Speaker 1: cars has gone up. Cost of repairs have gone up.
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Speaker 1: Cost of parts has gone up. Cost of insurance has
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Speaker 1: gone up. So from your perspective, what's your take on
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Speaker 1: all this? I mean, where does it stand from your situation?
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Speaker 1: How are you doing economically speaking? How are you doing?
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Speaker 1: I mean, do you sense any economic issues with yourself
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Speaker 1: and in this country right now? Because I see it
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Speaker 1: and I do. Do you? I see it and I do.
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Speaker 1: And it's troubling to me because unfortunately, I think we're
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Speaker 1: coming to a point, like just let me talk to
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Speaker 1: you for a second about electricity. When we double the
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Speaker 1: cost of electricity. we suddenly start to make people more
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Speaker 1: cognizant of things like running their air conditioning. Well, instead
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Speaker 1: of running it at 72, we'll run it at 74.
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Speaker 1: Or they won't run it as much. So there's sacrifices
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Speaker 1: that people make, in many cases, on their comfort once
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Speaker 1: they start getting these electric bills, which has doubled. What
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Speaker 1: you're paying for the cost of electricity has doubled. Now,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I notice a difference... Sometimes I
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Speaker 1: think I do when I look at the number of
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Speaker 1: vehicles on the highway. Sometimes when I look at the
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Speaker 1: number of vehicles on the highway, I think to myself,
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Speaker 1: like when I leave the station, it's like, I sometimes
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Speaker 1: think when I leave the station, gee, it should be
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Speaker 1: busier than it is. And it's not on the highways,
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Speaker 1: or it used to be busier than it is. But
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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, it isn't. Just my observation. I mean,
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Speaker 1: there's nothing to base it on other than my observations
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Speaker 1: when I'd be driving home from the radio station in
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Speaker 1: the evening. Maybe I'm just going nuts where I would
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Speaker 1: think to myself, seems to me there used to be
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Speaker 1: more traffic here on 224 at that hour of the day.
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Speaker 1: And there's less of it. Is it because gas is
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Speaker 1: so expensive? This is what goes through my pea brain.
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Speaker 1: Or because of everything else being so expensive. So what's
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Speaker 1: your take on this? Because I keep waiting and, you know,
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Speaker 1: Trump talked about the golden age and it very well
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Speaker 1: could happen. I mean, obviously, is this just a bump
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Speaker 1: in the roads with this situation in the Middle East? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we keep hearing, oh, we're going
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Speaker 1: to resolve this. It says on my headline today, Iranian
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Speaker 1: president makes major admission about U.S. attack in Operation Epic Fury.
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Speaker 1: Just the headlines of the day. So we still don't
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Speaker 1: have an agreement there at all as far as what's
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Speaker 1: going on in the Middle East. We haven't reached an
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Speaker 1: agreement there, and it continues to go on.
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Speaker 6: Hmm.
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Speaker 1: What else do I have here, just headline-wise? I find
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Speaker 1: the most interesting stuff usually on CNBC. when it comes
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Speaker 1: to the economy and what's going on there. For example,
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Speaker 1: NASDAQ drops for a second day as tech pullback picks
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Speaker 1: up steam. So if you look at the markets, the
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Speaker 1: S & P is down 30, NASDAQ is down 236,
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Speaker 1: the Russell is down 33, and the Dow is up 5.
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Speaker 1: So not a good day for your IRA or your 401k.
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Speaker 1: Not a good day for that. Headline. Trump pivots to
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Speaker 1: midterms affordability after China summit as Iran war persists. Well,
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Speaker 1: how about that? Maybe he should be pivoting to affordability
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Speaker 1: in time for the midterms. President Donald Trump. Defense Secretary Hegseth,
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Speaker 1: VP J.D. Vance are fanning out across the U.S. this
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Speaker 1: week for events aiming at touting domestic achievements. The Bush
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Speaker 1: comes as the Iran war and the aftermath of Trump's
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Speaker 1: China trip remain front burner issues. It also comes ahead
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Speaker 1: of the 2026 midterm elections where Democrats hope to make
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Speaker 1: gains as Americans views sour on the Iran war and
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Speaker 1: the economy. Those are the headlines. President Donald Trump has
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Speaker 1: returned stateside and so has this administration's focus. Trump and
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Speaker 1: his top officials fanning out across the U.S. this week
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Speaker 1: for events aimed at touting domestic achievements. Trump on Monday afternoon,
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Speaker 1: that's today, is set to unveil his latest efforts to
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Speaker 1: bring down health care costs, which are off the charts,
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Speaker 1: while Hegseth travels to a campaign event in Kentucky and J.D.
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Speaker 1: Vance attends a manufacturing event in Missouri. The apparent shift
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Speaker 1: days after Trump's return from Beijing comes ahead of the
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Speaker 1: fast-approaching 2026 midterm elections, where Democrats hope to regain at
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Speaker 1: least one chamber of Congress and push back against the
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Speaker 1: president's policy agendas. They're aiming to capitalize on Trump's dwindling
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Speaker 1: approval ratings, which have sunk to new lows. In multiple
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Speaker 1: recent polls, most Americans expressed negative views about the Iran
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Speaker 1: war and the state of the economy, which is what
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Speaker 1: I'm asking you about. So they talk about the state
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Speaker 1: of the economy. Those pressures have helped make affordability a
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Speaker 1: central theme of the midterms. Trump's announcement at the White
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Speaker 1: House is billed as a health care affordability event. So
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Speaker 1: the Trump administration is trying to get back to the
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Speaker 1: emphasis of affordability. And you have a Democratic strategery guy,
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Speaker 1: to quote George Bush, says that the American voter is
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Speaker 1: pissed about the economy. That would be you, incidentally. Trump
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Speaker 1: was elected on a promise to wrangle Biden near inflation
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Speaker 1: and bring down high prices, and that hasn't happened. So
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Speaker 1: the American people are pretty pissed, is the words of
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Speaker 1: Mike Nellis, a Democrat strategist. The economy is a major
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Speaker 1: marquee campaign issue. Trump recently had the lowest numbers on
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Speaker 1: the economies had in either term. Quinnipiac University poll analysis
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Speaker 1: says Tim Malloy said in a phone interview, put that
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Speaker 1: on top of gas prices. You're looking at big red flags.
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Speaker 1: There's a New York Times poll published Monday found Trump's
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Speaker 1: overall approval scrapping 37 percent, a new second term low.
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Speaker 1: It's nearly two thirds of voters said they disapprove of
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Speaker 1: his handling of the economy. Two thirds. President is expected
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Speaker 1: to announce an expansion of the number of discounted prescription
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Speaker 1: drugs offered through the administration's TrumpRx website. So there you
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Speaker 1: have it. So they're getting back to the affordability issue,
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Speaker 1: which they should. So what do you make of it?
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Speaker 1: I mean, how do you view the economy as one
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Speaker 1: of the major things, one of the things we'll talk
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Speaker 1: about here this afternoon? I mean, from your economic perspective,
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Speaker 1: how's the economy treating you? I mean, it's hard to
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Speaker 1: say that I don't believe polling, but a lot of
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Speaker 1: it I don't believe because it's been so wrong so often.
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Speaker 1: And it's shown to be that way, just wrong, right?
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Speaker 1: But is it wrong this time when the polling basically
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Speaker 1: says a lot of people are upset about the affordability issue?
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Speaker 1: So is it wrong? Maybe not. It's not always wrong.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's right. When it's not politically motivated. So basically
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Speaker 1: what they're saying in this polling, the affordability issue is
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Speaker 1: the big issue. And are you sitting down? I agree
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Speaker 1: with that. I think that is a huge issue with people.
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Speaker 1: All right, your comments from your perspective, from your household perspective.
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Speaker 1: But I go back to say this. Does anybody actually
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Speaker 1: believe that voting for Democrats would make affordability better? Does
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Speaker 1: anybody actually believe that going back to the Biden era,
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Speaker 1: progressive Democrats would improve the economy? Does anybody actually believe that?
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Speaker 1: I would find that hard to believe. From my perspective.
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Speaker 1: All right, should we try to squeeze a call in?
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Speaker 1: Let's try. You're on air.
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Speaker 7: No, I'm going to one center court.
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Speaker 1: Wait a second. Wait a second.
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Speaker 8: Cleveland, Ohio, one center court.
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Speaker 1: Wait a second. It's Dick from Dayton. Here it is,
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Speaker 1: Sunday night. Guess what I'm thinking about? Sunday night, I'm
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Speaker 1: thinking about one person.
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Speaker 9: Yes.
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, forget affordability for a minute. Sunday night, last night,
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about one person. You know who that one
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Speaker 1: person was?
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Speaker 3: Me.
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Speaker 1: You. I'm thinking about Dick from Dayton when the Cavaliers...
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Speaker 1: won last night. These basketball playoffs, they go on forever, incidentally.
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Speaker 1: They never end. But the Cavaliers must win one. And
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Speaker 1: so I'm sitting here thinking, well, I bet you Dick
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Speaker 1: from Dayton's excited. So now back to the court on Tuesday, right? Yeah.
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Speaker 10: I just never, everybody at the, you know, down the
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Speaker 10: dial there was all, you know, they're going to choke
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Speaker 10: and thing. I just, You know, out of malls, one
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Speaker 10: of my friends, I put a lot of pennies in there,
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Speaker 10: but I thought they looked pretty good, didn't they?
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Speaker 1: Yes, they did. Hallelujah, Dick. Hallelujah.
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Speaker 7: And the Guardians, too.
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Speaker 4: How about that?
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Speaker 11: We'll be back.
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Speaker 1: Youngstown's news, weather, and talk station, 570 WKBN. I know,
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Speaker 1: 325 in the afternoon. It's 90 degrees here in Tiffany
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Speaker 1: Boulevard in Boardman on this Monday, May 18th. I was
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Speaker 1: thinking about Dick from Dayton last night with the Cavs
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Speaker 1: winning late last night. So onward they go to the
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Speaker 1: next round of it. Basketball playoffs go on forever. It's ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: You're on the air. Hello.
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Speaker 3: Hello.
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Speaker 5: Hello?
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Speaker 1: Yes, speak your piece.
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Speaker 12: Hey, I was going to say I heard you talking
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Speaker 12: about what they said about President Trump. I've been a
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Speaker 12: lifelong Democrat, haven't voted Democrat in about 20 years. I'm
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Speaker 12: a history major, was working on my master's in history education.
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Speaker 12: I believe President Trump has done more for our country
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Speaker 12: in a short period of time, called us a Christian nation,
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Speaker 12: brought back integrity, strength. and I will sacrifice at $ 5
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Speaker 12: a gallon for gas. Everybody here in the U.S., according
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Speaker 12: to me at 60 years old, they want everything that
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Speaker 12: they didn't earn, and they're not willing to sacrifice by
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Speaker 12: giving up cable or the more expensive car. I worry
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Speaker 12: about my kids who are still teenagers, and I worry
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Speaker 12: about their future. So I think the president's approval rating
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Speaker 12: for me is much higher than what they say. And
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Speaker 12: I am thankful that we have him every day. The economy,
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Speaker 12: I still think, is going well. And as for the war,
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Speaker 12: every president has said Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
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Speaker 12: He's the only one that did anything. He's through strength.
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Speaker 12: I totally believe it, Ron.
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Speaker 13: Thank you for your time.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. So there you go. How about that? Now,
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Speaker 1: do you see many other guys like that in polling?
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Speaker 1: I'm just curious. I mean, as he speaks, you're on
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Speaker 1: the air.
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Speaker 14: Hey, Ron.
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Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale, Frank. Hello.
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Speaker 3: That guy that just called he had a caller last
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Speaker 3: week that said ancient Rome was one of the most
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Speaker 3: peaceful societies in history they were actually one of the
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Speaker 3: most warlike so this guy said he was a history
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Speaker 3: major have him call again and say that Frank was
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Speaker 3: right now also Jacob the Zionist when I said that
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Speaker 3: America is a nation of spenders and debtors in China
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Speaker 3: as a nation, savers and investors. He called all irate,
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Speaker 3: saying that's because China is a slave labor economy. Well,
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Speaker 3: I did some research, and the Uyghurs, there's 80,000 Uyghurs
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Speaker 3: that have been enslaved out of a population of 1.9
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Speaker 3: billion Chinese people. And he said that China's broke.
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute. But they are enslaved, and they are abused.
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Speaker 1: I mean, let's be realistic. I'm not here to hear
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Speaker 1: you champion how great China is.
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Speaker 3: No, he was saying that the whole economy is slave labor.
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Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. It would be like 200 people in Ohio
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Speaker 3: being enslaved and saying, hey, it's a enslaved state. That's ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, when you look at the Chinese
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Speaker 1: economy and you try to compare it to the United
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Speaker 1: States economy, they don't have a lot of the requirements
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Speaker 1: we have here or the standard that we have here
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Speaker 1: in many wages. They're not dealing with OSHA. They're not
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Speaker 1: dealing with unemployment and Social Security and health care. They're
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Speaker 1: not dealing with some of these Chinese factories are god-awful.
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Speaker 1: So let's not act like China's this perfect spot and
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Speaker 1: they got it all figured out and they don't exploit
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Speaker 1: their people and they're not a communist country. Stand by.
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Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale, Frank, coming back with him in a minute.
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Speaker 1: So stay tuned. All right, it's 3.34, back to Fort Lauderdale, Frank.
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Speaker 1: All right, I don't want to hear too much more
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Speaker 1: about China's economy and that kind of stuff. I'm focused
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Speaker 1: more on this country's economy. This is where I live, okay? And,
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Speaker 1: you know, I get tired of... Some of these people
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Speaker 1: who think you're unable to criticize anything. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: genuinely get troubled by some Trump supporters that lack any
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Speaker 1: ability to criticize anything or look differently at anything. I
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Speaker 1: don't think because I voted for Trump three times, supported Trump,
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Speaker 1: And that means I got to agree with everything he does.
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Speaker 1: And that's the only thing that's acceptable. And there are
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Speaker 1: people that are like that, that seem to have that mentality.
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Speaker 1: That is not my mentality. I didn't appreciate Democrats who
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Speaker 1: did that with Joe Biden. And I certainly won't do
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Speaker 1: that with Trump. There's many things about Trump that I
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Speaker 1: find annoying and have found annoying over his tenure as president.
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Speaker 1: Many things that I find that we've talked about in
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Speaker 1: the past. I don't go along with everything and say, oh,
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Speaker 1: whatever Trump's for, I'm for 100%. I'm not going to
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Speaker 1: question anything. He's just the most brilliant guy on the planet.
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Speaker 1: So the people that are like that are nothing but cheerleaders.
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Speaker 1: That's exactly what they are. They are out of touch cheerleaders.
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Speaker 1: So as I say, does that mean I would vote
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Speaker 1: for Sherrod Brown or any Democrat? Absolutely not. But it
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Speaker 1: also doesn't mean that I put my brain on check
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Speaker 1: and just say, well, whatever Trump reverses himself on or
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Speaker 1: whatever the Republicans do, it's A-OK. And that isn't the
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Speaker 1: case either. Don't stop thinking. So forget the Chinese economy, Frank.
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Speaker 1: We should be focusing on our economy, the American economy,
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Speaker 1: and what's happening here.
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Speaker 3: Well, Ron, what have I always said that my concern
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Speaker 3: with China is? They have so much money, they're buying
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Speaker 3: tons of land in our country and shares in our stock.
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Speaker 3: And they're buying land. near military installations because i believe
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Speaker 3: they want to spy on.
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Speaker 1: Us but how stupid are we frank for selling it
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Speaker 1: to them how stupid are we as a country to
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Speaker 1: sell our prime farmland any of it to china or
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Speaker 1: any of this stuff by military bases to china we
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Speaker 1: are fools for doing that.
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Speaker 3: You ready for the bad news now the market is
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Speaker 3: way down today yes and for the xenophobics like jacob
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Speaker 3: The Zionist stock market is way down, too. But my
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Speaker 3: AI stocks, I had to buy some more. I have
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Speaker 3: a few that are down over 10% in just today alone, Ron.
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Speaker 3: And you know the reason why the market is crashing?
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Speaker 3: Because Wall Street believes that this war, that they way
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Speaker 3: underestimated how long this war is going to last. They, well,
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Speaker 3: way up again today, Wall Street believes that oil is
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Speaker 3: going to keep going up in price and that this
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Speaker 3: war is going to last a lot longer than they thought.
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Speaker 1: Well, here we go. All the Trump cheerleaders can get
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Speaker 1: in a tizzy here. I agree with you. I think
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Speaker 1: that this war has gone on much longer than they
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Speaker 1: thought it would happen, and it's not going as has
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Speaker 1: been planned. I honestly think that they thought that this
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Speaker 1: would be over much sooner than it is. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we did the bunker buster, and then we did all
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Speaker 1: this bombing, and we still don't have an agreement or
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Speaker 1: still don't have them on the key issues in agreeing
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Speaker 1: with that. So they talk about, well, maybe we have
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Speaker 1: to do more bombing, thinking that that's going to bring
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Speaker 1: them to the negotiating table and agree with all of
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Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. It seems like they're pretty well
24:17
Speaker 1: dug in on their position as well. So I agree
24:19
Speaker 1: with you. I do agree with you. I don't think
24:22
Speaker 1: this is taking longer than they thought it would take.
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Speaker 1: I do agree.
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Speaker 3: Well, this is the value of diversification. While my AI
24:33
Speaker 3: stocks are crashing, I bought a lot of oil stocks
24:37
Speaker 3: and they're way up. I got one that's up 25%
24:40
Speaker 3: and I've only owned it three days. But You know,
24:45
Speaker 3: as far, I think we ought to listen to Prince
24:49
Speaker 3: Turkey Al-Faisal, former head of Saudi intelligence. He said when
24:54
Speaker 3: Iran and others try to drag Saudi Arabia into the
24:58
Speaker 3: furnace of destruction, that their leadership chose to endure the
25:02
Speaker 3: pains caused by a neighbor in order to protect the
25:05
Speaker 3: lives and property of its citizens. He said had the
25:09
Speaker 3: kingdom wanted to respond by destroying Saudi Iranian facilities. The
25:14
Speaker 3: outcome would have been the destruction of our oil facilities
25:18
Speaker 3: and desalinization plants. He said Israel tried to ignite a
25:22
Speaker 3: war between us and Iran, and if it had succeeded,
25:26
Speaker 3: the whole region would have been plunged into ruin and destruction.
25:31
Speaker 3: And he said thousands of our sons and daughters would
25:34
Speaker 3: have been lost in battles that we have no stake in,
25:38
Speaker 3: and Israel would have been able to impose their will
25:41
Speaker 3: on the region And let me tell you this, too, Ron.
25:46
Speaker 3: Although Iran has attacked U.S. military assets in Saudi Arabia,
25:51
Speaker 3: they have not attacked Saudi oil interests. In fact, I
25:55
Speaker 3: looked it up today. Saudi Aramco, the state-owned oil company.
26:00
Speaker 3: is earning record profits.
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Speaker 1: Well, nothing would surprise me that all these oil companies
26:05
Speaker 1: are going to have record profits as we pay through
26:07
Speaker 1: the nose. I mean, that doesn't shock me at all.
26:10
Speaker 1: But going back once again, I agree with you. I
26:13
Speaker 1: think that this is dragging on much longer than the
26:15
Speaker 1: administration thought it would go on, and perhaps they were
26:19
Speaker 1: misled by Israel on this situation or misread it or
26:24
Speaker 1: didn't listen to their advisors. I'm sure that there were
26:27
Speaker 1: advisors that said, if they could muster up the courage
26:30
Speaker 1: to tell Trump that they thought that this was a
26:33
Speaker 1: bad idea or thought maybe that this would take longer
26:36
Speaker 1: than they might anticipate that this wouldn't be like Venezuela.
26:42
Speaker 3: I got a question to throw out to the audience.
26:45
Speaker 3: Instead of putting ground troops in Iran or wherever, why
26:50
Speaker 3: are we not using soldier robots? I mean, they can
26:55
Speaker 3: do anything better than the soldier. They don't have to
26:58
Speaker 3: be fed. They don't have to worry about getting wounded.
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Speaker 1: Well, I would just ask you this question. How successful
27:08
Speaker 1: have missions been without boots on the ground? I mean,
27:12
Speaker 1: I'm just asking a general question. Do you think you
27:14
Speaker 1: can win these conflicts by bombing?
27:19
Speaker 7: Like I've said before..
27:21
Speaker 3: The Air Force generals keep telling the politicians, we don't
27:25
Speaker 3: need boots on the ground. We can simply win by
27:29
Speaker 3: air power alone. We've never won a war by air
27:33
Speaker 3: power alone. So I agree with you completely.
27:37
Speaker 1: You've been around long enough. It does remind me somewhat
27:39
Speaker 1: of Vietnam. I mean, Trump was elected by people who
27:44
Speaker 1: don't want these endless wars and regime change wars in
27:47
Speaker 1: the Middle East. They don't want that. And they look
27:51
Speaker 1: at the history of what we've done there and look
27:53
Speaker 1: at the history of Vietnam and saying, okay, so..
27:57
Speaker 15: Ron, if.
28:00
Speaker 3: This war continues dragging on and on, what do you
28:04
Speaker 3: think is going to happen to the economy?
28:06
Speaker 1: I think it's going to deteriorate even more.
28:10
Speaker 3: And plus, not only soldier robots... But how many robots
28:14
Speaker 3: are going to put American workers.
28:16
Speaker 1: Out of job?
28:16
Speaker 16: Right.
28:17
Speaker 1: That's a whole different discussion. You know, when you're talking
28:19
Speaker 1: soldier robots, sometimes I think you're smoking weed down there
28:22
Speaker 1: in Fort Lauderdale.
28:24
Speaker 3: You haven't seen these robots.
28:26
Speaker 1: Has J.J. the Liberal been down there? Are you smoking
28:28
Speaker 1: weed with J.J. the Liberal down in Fort Lauderdale? I mean,
28:32
Speaker 1: I'm just dealing with the reality today. It's dragging on
28:36
Speaker 1: longer than I thought. I don't know if there's a
28:39
Speaker 1: good way out. I just don't know what the plan
28:44
Speaker 1: is at this point. If Iran digs itself in and says,
28:48
Speaker 1: we're not doing any of this stuff. We're not going
28:50
Speaker 1: to give in to any of this. There's a number
28:53
Speaker 1: of problems that I would bounce off of you, Frank.
28:56
Speaker 1: Who are you negotiating with? I mean, first and foremost,
28:59
Speaker 1: you wiped out most of the people, which is a
29:01
Speaker 1: good thing. So can you sit back and say, who's
29:04
Speaker 1: really in charge? Who's really making the decisions? Who has
29:08
Speaker 1: the authority to make the decisions? That seems to me
29:12
Speaker 1: that that would be a difficult situation to figure out.
29:15
Speaker 1: Who do you communicate with and how do you communicate
29:18
Speaker 1: with them?
29:19
Speaker 3: Well, Iran's military has planned for this. They plan for
29:23
Speaker 3: their leadership to be wiped out, the same as Hezbollah,
29:27
Speaker 3: which is not a terrorist organization, plan that if their
29:32
Speaker 3: leaders get killed in battle, the next in command is
29:36
Speaker 3: well trained to completely take over. down to the private
29:41
Speaker 3: in Hezbollah.
29:43
Speaker 1: The bottom line is this. Listen, I guess the only
29:47
Speaker 1: thing you and I can agree on today is that
29:49
Speaker 1: this is taking longer than they anticipated. And when you
29:52
Speaker 1: ask me the key question, do I think what will
29:54
Speaker 1: happen with the economy as this drags on, I don't
29:57
Speaker 1: think nothing good is going to happen. I think it
29:59
Speaker 1: just gets worse. How's that?
30:01
Speaker 3: Well, like I said, my oil stocks are doing great.
30:04
Speaker 1: I don't care if you make a fortune. I'm talking
30:06
Speaker 1: about everybody in general. Go spend some time with those
30:09
Speaker 1: young women that are under the age of, what, 60
30:14
Speaker 1: that you're hanging out with down there that are in
30:16
Speaker 1: their 30s and 40s with that harem that you have,
30:20
Speaker 1: all right?
30:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I got it. I worry about the icebox.
30:26
Speaker 1: All right, there he is.
30:27
Speaker 17: Fort Lauderdale.
30:29
Speaker 1: It's 90 degrees here. Fort Lauderdale, Frank, thank you. You're
30:32
Speaker 1: on the air. Hello.
30:35
Speaker 7: Hello, Ron.
30:36
Speaker 1: Yes, go ahead, you old battleaxe. I mean, sweetheart.
30:41
Speaker 18: Oh, okay.
30:42
Speaker 6: This is Jane from Butler, PA, calling.
30:45
Speaker 1: Yes.
30:46
Speaker 6: You've heard of that. I just was wondering if any
30:49
Speaker 6: of your other listeners enjoyed their afternoon here yesterday as
30:54
Speaker 6: I did. I watched Newsmax all afternoon, and it was
31:00
Speaker 6: a day of prayer for our country. There were over
31:04
Speaker 6: 15,000 people on the D.C.
31:07
Speaker 19: Mall.
31:08
Speaker 1: Probably not. Probably you're saying, do you think a lot
31:12
Speaker 1: of people were watching? What was yesterday? Yesterday seemed to
31:15
Speaker 1: me it was a beautiful day. It was Sunday. So
31:20
Speaker 1: I doubt that everybody was in the house watching TV
31:22
Speaker 1: and glued to Newsmax and some prayer vigil. I think
31:25
Speaker 1: most people were probably outside enjoying this beautiful day here
31:28
Speaker 1: in the great state of Ohio.
31:31
Speaker 6: Well, that could be. But they had so many good speakers,
31:36
Speaker 6: so much good Christian music, so many prayers.
31:42
Speaker 1: Well, I was not watching it, I must confess. I
31:44
Speaker 1: was enjoying life.
31:48
Speaker 6: Well, I'm glad to hear that.
31:50
Speaker 1: You should get out of the house more on a
31:52
Speaker 1: beautiful day.
31:54
Speaker 6: Well, I did go for a little walk and went
31:56
Speaker 6: to church. But anyway, it was very uplifting to hear
32:01
Speaker 6: so many members of our cabinet, to hear Donald Trump
32:05
Speaker 6: read the Bible.
32:08
Speaker 1: But sometimes, I mean, when you hear Trump read the Bible,
32:11
Speaker 1: sometimes it's a little bit tough to take just knowing...
32:15
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be realistic. He's a playboy. He's been
32:18
Speaker 1: a playboy. He's been married a number of times. He
32:20
Speaker 1: isn't exactly the most Christian-living guy.
32:23
Speaker 6: I believe he is now, since the incident.
32:27
Speaker 1: Well, anything is possible, I'm sure. But the idea that
32:32
Speaker 1: he's a religious person..
32:36
Speaker 6: Well, I was wondering if any of your other listeners had...
32:40
Speaker 6: happened to catch part of it anyway. Dr. Ben Carson
32:44
Speaker 6: really impressed me, too.
32:47
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Most of our listeners are heathens.
32:53
Speaker 6: Well, now, Ron, I don't think you are. There were many.
32:56
Speaker 1: Priests there, too.
32:58
Speaker 6: It wasn't just one religion. There were many priests there
33:03
Speaker 6: who talked.
33:04
Speaker 1: I was just trying to shock you, okay? That's all.
33:08
Speaker 1: Thank you. She was watching Newsmax yesterday. You're on the air, 347.
33:13
Speaker 1: Ron Verb, hello.
33:15
Speaker 20: So you missed Newsmax, Ron.
33:16
Speaker 9: It was great.
33:18
Speaker 20: Yesterday, they also announced..
33:21
Speaker 1: Why were you watching Newsmax all day yesterday?
33:24
Speaker 15: Wait, wait, wait.
33:25
Speaker 20: Trump announced that we were going to enslave the people
33:29
Speaker 20: of Fort Lauderdale, but it's still a free country because
33:32
Speaker 20: it's only Fort Lauderdale.
33:34
Speaker 21: Oh, okay.
33:34
Speaker 20: And then And we were going to send the people
33:36
Speaker 20: of Fort Lauderdale to Iran to fight.
33:40
Speaker 1: Oh, the boots on the ground.
33:42
Speaker 20: I was just thinking, yeah, Frank might appreciate that update.
33:44
Speaker 20: This is just as good as China.
33:47
Speaker 1: I put Frank in his place. I don't want to
33:48
Speaker 1: hear about China. The Chinese economy doesn't, I don't sit
33:53
Speaker 1: thinking about a lot. I think about the American economy.
33:56
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this. I live in
33:57
Speaker 1: the United States of America. The only economy that matters
34:00
Speaker 1: to me is this economy. And by the way, Mikel,
34:03
Speaker 1: the guru of Gerard, how do you assess the economy
34:06
Speaker 1: as we speak today?
34:09
Speaker 20: I think it's bad. I think AI doesn't, No, it's
34:14
Speaker 20: worse than taking jobs. It doesn't know if it's going
34:17
Speaker 20: to take jobs, you know? I mean, there's just nobody
34:20
Speaker 20: knows how to act. There's that part of it. The
34:25
Speaker 20: land grabs and electricity grabs and everything, I just think
34:30
Speaker 20: it needs to be done a little slower, and they're not.
34:38
Speaker 20: And I just... You know, everything costs too much, Ron.
34:42
Speaker 20: And just like you said, there's not cars on the road.
34:44
Speaker 20: I'm not driving. I'm not in my backyard painting a building.
34:48
Speaker 20: Because I had the paint and I had the time.
34:54
Speaker 8: Right.
34:54
Speaker 1: So you think the economy's in a bad spot right now?
34:56
Speaker 22: Yes.
34:57
Speaker 7: I do.
34:58
Speaker 20: Yes, I really do.
34:59
Speaker 1: And do you sense it's going to be getting better
35:03
Speaker 1: or worse as this war drags on?
35:06
Speaker 20: Apparently, I think worse. because I just don't see how
35:11
Speaker 20: it gets better until we went there, we were, you know,
35:15
Speaker 20: we were kicking butt and everything and destroyed everybody who
35:18
Speaker 20: was in charge, but then we said, oh, now that
35:20
Speaker 20: there's no one in charge, let's talk. You know what
35:23
Speaker 20: I mean? It just doesn't make any sense, man. Like
35:24
Speaker 20: I said, if you're going to fight, fight until there's
35:27
Speaker 20: no one left and everybody's like, okay, whatever you need,
35:30
Speaker 20: we'll do, and then you know you won, and then
35:34
Speaker 20: you can take advantage of it and rebuild the country
35:37
Speaker 20: if you need to, whatever, but Just blowing it up
35:41
Speaker 20: and then waiting to see who comes up and all this.
35:45
Speaker 20: Who's going to come out and do that just out
35:48
Speaker 20: of the goodness of their heart? Maybe they're waiting for
35:51
Speaker 20: a civil war to happen. I don't know, but if so,
35:56
Speaker 20: I think the CIA better get a lot more busy
35:58
Speaker 20: than they are.
36:00
Speaker 4: And be open-minded.
36:01
Speaker 1: Because whatever that percentage is, and who knows what the
36:05
Speaker 1: percentage is of the Civil War, is it that big
36:08
Speaker 1: a percentage over the people who are opposed to the
36:10
Speaker 1: Civil War? I think you pointed that out on Friday's program,
36:13
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. I mean, so it depends what
36:16
Speaker 1: those numbers are. And guess who has all the guns?
36:19
Speaker 1: The people that would be opposed to the Civil War.
36:21
Speaker 5: Right.
36:23
Speaker 20: And that's what I mean.
36:24
Speaker 11: Like, he really..
36:26
Speaker 20: If they went in and just started fighting again now,
36:29
Speaker 20: and maybe there's a chance it could end, but I
36:33
Speaker 20: don't see that happening. It's gotten all political, just like
36:35
Speaker 20: all the other wars that happened over there. You know,
36:38
Speaker 20: everybody's like, hey, what about my oil?
36:41
Speaker 18: You know?
36:43
Speaker 1: So you think Iran will just kind of wait this out?
36:48
Speaker 1: You don't see them saying, after all of this activity
36:52
Speaker 1: so far and everything that's been going on, you don't
36:55
Speaker 1: see them caving into the United States demands at all.
36:59
Speaker 1: They seem to be resolute in their position and this
37:05
Speaker 1: continues to drag on yet another week or two or three,
37:09
Speaker 1: who knows.
37:11
Speaker 20: They're just playing, they're giving them as much leash as
37:14
Speaker 20: you would give a bad dog, you know? And that's
37:19
Speaker 20: what I think. I hate to say it, they never
37:21
Speaker 20: should have started the war, but if we started it,
37:23
Speaker 20: let's finish it.
37:26
Speaker 1: I tell you what, he always, I always find him interesting.
37:29
Speaker 1: He's a guru to charge. Thank you, Mike. Appreciate it.
37:31
Speaker 1: Back in a minute.
37:31
Speaker 3: Take care.
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Speaker 1: News Radio 570 WKBN. And Ron Firm from the Kingdom
37:37
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Speaker 12: Hi, Ron.
37:41
Speaker 17: It isn't much. I hate this thing going on in Iran.
37:47
Speaker 17: I just pray for the soldiers that are involved, and
37:50
Speaker 17: I don't think that Trump has a way out of
37:52
Speaker 17: this that makes him look good, but... I just hope
37:56
Speaker 17: we can get out of it where we don't lose
37:58
Speaker 17: too many more lives. And as far as the economy goes,
38:03
Speaker 17: my economy is doing great. I'm not in the stock market.
38:07
Speaker 17: I'm working. I'm running up and down the road like
38:10
Speaker 17: an idiot and delivering food products or food manufacturing. And
38:19
Speaker 17: it's a beautiful day to be on the road. I'm
38:21
Speaker 17: right beside the Susquehanna River right now going downtown.
38:24
Speaker 6: U.S.
38:25
Speaker 17: Route 15, what a gorgeous drive this is.
38:28
Speaker 1: So basically, in your world, happy to be alive, great day,
38:33
Speaker 1: and economically, you're coping with the inflation.
38:38
Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
38:38
Speaker 17: I mean, I should be retired right now, but I'll
38:41
Speaker 17: work and get through this. I'll get through this just fine.
38:45
Speaker 1: See, there's a unique perspective, so you're not sitting up
38:49
Speaker 1: worried about it. I appreciate your outlook. I find it refreshing,
38:54
Speaker 1: quite frankly, and I appreciate it. Thank you for your call.
38:58
Speaker 17: Keep moving. If you don't, they throw dirt on you.
39:02
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for reminding me. I appreciate it. It's getting
39:06
Speaker 1: along so good with him, and then he reminds me
39:07
Speaker 1: of that. All right, stay tuned. Call us online. Stand by.
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Speaker 24: President Trump now says serious discussions are taking place with
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Speaker 24: Iran and is calling off strikes on the country that
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Speaker 25: What Donald Trump seems to want is an agreement now
39:59
Speaker 25: that not only will Iran open the Strait of Hormuz,
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Speaker 25: but it'll also agree... to his nuclear demands. And that
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Speaker 25: is to say, and we understand, and it was clear
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Speaker 25: last week, the president believes that Iran's commitment to stopping
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Speaker 25: enriching uranium for a period of 20 years is something
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Speaker 25: that he wants and he would accept in any deal.
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Speaker 25: But the Iranians don't want.
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Speaker 26: To get there. They want to talk about Hormuz first.
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Speaker 25: We're seeing Iran and the United States come at this
40:21
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Speaker 24: President Trump earlier today announced he's dropping his lawsuit against
40:25
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40:28
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40:32
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Speaker 1: Back to it, NewsRadio 570 WDKVN. Welcome, welcome, welcome. 4.06
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Speaker 1: on a Monday afternoon, May 18th already. We're at 90
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Speaker 4: Hello there.
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Speaker 27: Okay, Ron, I'm going to ask you a question, and
41:34
Speaker 27: I just want you to give me a dollar amount.
41:36
Speaker 27: At what price per gallon of gas would it have
41:39
Speaker 27: to be for you to vote for Sherrod Brown?
41:44
Speaker 1: There isn't a price. There is absolutely. I can answer
41:49
Speaker 1: that question. There isn't a price that I could ever
41:52
Speaker 1: vote for. Sherrod Brown backed everything Joe Biden stood for.
41:57
Speaker 1: He is a far left liberal wacko. I could never
42:01
Speaker 1: vote for Sherrod Brown. And frankly, I couldn't vote for
42:04
Speaker 1: a Democrat running for president or any of that. I
42:09
Speaker 1: just could not.
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Speaker 27: And if you ask the same question to J.J. or Emanuel,
42:16
Speaker 27: at what price of gas, how low would it have
42:19
Speaker 27: to go where you'd say, yep, I'm going to vote
42:21
Speaker 27: for the vague promise, I'm going to vote for Donald Trump, whoever,
42:25
Speaker 27: they would tell you... The same thing, if you got
42:28
Speaker 27: paid to take the gas, they wouldn't vote for the guy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's different, because if you're saying, well, how
42:35
Speaker 1: low would it have to be for you to realize
42:37
Speaker 1: that this person has got the right energy policy? For example,
42:41
Speaker 1: if you would ask the question to me... If a
42:44
Speaker 1: Democrat administration was running the show and we had low
42:50
Speaker 1: energy costs because they had a good energy policy or
42:53
Speaker 1: we had a booming economy because of a good economic policy,
42:58
Speaker 1: could I vote for the Democrats? The answer to that
43:00
Speaker 1: would be yes. But the scenario I gave you is
43:03
Speaker 1: impossible based on their outlook.
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Speaker 27: What I'm trying to paint the picture, does the price
43:10
Speaker 27: of gas, really matter to the administration the cia the
43:15
Speaker 27: military anybody because you just made my point you're never
43:19
Speaker 27: going to vote for somebody based on the price of
43:22
Speaker 27: gas even if it gets so high and it hurts
43:25
Speaker 27: so much and i think that they understand that as
43:28
Speaker 27: well the more that this goes on the the more
43:31
Speaker 27: i i'm beginning to feel as though this was never
43:34
Speaker 27: about the nuclear weapons anything like that because again I've
43:38
Speaker 27: never to this point understood, and I've never talked to
43:41
Speaker 27: a nuclear physicist, but how you make a bomb out
43:44
Speaker 27: of nuclear dust that's apparently at the bottom of a
43:47
Speaker 27: mountain right now. I don't understand that. I don't understand
43:51
Speaker 27: why ships can't go through. It's not because, you know,
43:54
Speaker 27: anybody's really afraid of what's going on. It's because there's
43:57
Speaker 27: no insurance that you.
43:58
Speaker 17: Can't go through.
43:59
Speaker 8: Of course, we have a blockade.
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Speaker 27: The more this goes on, I just think this is finally..
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Speaker 16: It's almost..
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Speaker 27: I'm almost happy about it from the sense that maybe
44:06
Speaker 27: our country actually has a long-term plan involved and we're
44:09
Speaker 27: not making military decisions just based on a mid-term cycle
44:14
Speaker 27: or if the price of gas is $ 4. 89 a gallon.
44:17
Speaker 8: Maybe this is just a.
44:18
Speaker 27: Long game with China to show, hey, we control the
44:21
Speaker 27: choke points around the world. We control the Panama Canal.
44:25
Speaker 27: We've got the Strait of Hormuz, the Strait of Malacca,
44:29
Speaker 27: the ring around China. I don't know what the end
44:31
Speaker 27: game is for it, but I don't know if that's
44:34
Speaker 27: the plan. Is it to destroy the economy of everywhere
44:37
Speaker 27: around the world, just like the economies were destroyed after
44:40
Speaker 27: World War II, so we can actually reinvigorate our industrial
44:43
Speaker 27: base because we have none?
44:45
Speaker 8: I have no idea.
44:47
Speaker 27: But at the end of the day, if this keeps
44:49
Speaker 27: going the way it is, And even if we bomb them,
44:53
Speaker 27: if the straits closed, we're pumping out oil. And I
44:55
Speaker 27: understand it doesn't help the other guy who's calling in
44:58
Speaker 27: paying $ 4. 89 a gallon who's got to drive a diesel
45:01
Speaker 27: truck or the delivery.
45:02
Speaker 8: I get that.
45:04
Speaker 27: But if you're the administration, if you realize now with
45:08
Speaker 27: congressional districts being redrawn, if you're not too worried about
45:12
Speaker 27: the midterms, do you have to do anything right now?
45:17
Speaker 1: If you're the administration and you're not worried about the midterms,
45:20
Speaker 1: was your question, do you have to do anything right now? Yes. Yes,
45:24
Speaker 1: you do. Because there's independent voters that they often say
45:29
Speaker 1: determine the outcome of an election. And though you asked
45:33
Speaker 1: me those questions and I answered from my perspective, I
45:36
Speaker 1: think there are people that would answer from a much
45:39
Speaker 1: different perspective. I think that there are those people, as
45:42
Speaker 1: Carville said with Clinton, it is the economy. And in general,
45:46
Speaker 1: I think you had many questions. Democrats and independents that
45:49
Speaker 1: did vote for Trump in the last election because of
45:52
Speaker 1: the economy and the high prices and affordability. And do
45:56
Speaker 1: I think that those people could change their votes as
46:00
Speaker 1: a vote against the current administration for not fixing the
46:04
Speaker 1: problem or making the problem worse? Yeah, I do think
46:07
Speaker 1: that there's a percentage of people that can do that,
46:10
Speaker 1: and that can affect the outcome of the midterms or
46:13
Speaker 1: an election. How's that for an answer?
46:16
Speaker 19: Yes.
46:16
Speaker 4: What do you mean, eh?
46:17
Speaker 8: I'll take it, I guess.
46:18
Speaker 1: What do you mean, eh?
46:19
Speaker 12: Here's the other thing I'm worried about now, too.
46:21
Speaker 20: What, eh?
46:21
Speaker 9: You hear that, folks?
46:22
Speaker 24: Eh.
46:23
Speaker 1: You know, like, he just blew it off. But you know,
46:25
Speaker 1: that's true.
46:27
Speaker 17: That was my opinion on it.
46:29
Speaker 1: But you know it's true. Instead of, eh.
46:33
Speaker 8: It's, you know, yeah, sure.
46:34
Speaker 27: But, like, you just made my point when I called. Again,
46:37
Speaker 27: when you take a massive group of people, yeah, I'm
46:40
Speaker 27: sure that would be, you know, their answer. But if
46:42
Speaker 27: you talk to an individual person, it varies. Now, what
46:45
Speaker 27: I'm worried about now is, remember when we were paying the,
46:50
Speaker 27: what is it, the retirement accounts of Ukrainians?
46:54
Speaker 1: Yes.
46:54
Speaker 8: The pensions, all that?
46:56
Speaker 11: Yes.
46:56
Speaker 27: Well, I'm starting to get a little worried.
46:58
Speaker 17: You know, there's other countries around there.
47:00
Speaker 27: You know, we don't hear too much about the Middle
47:02
Speaker 27: East around, you know, the Strait of Hormuz there. Kuwait
47:05
Speaker 27: hasn't pumped out any oil since before April. Their economy
47:09
Speaker 27: is like 98% oil. and they apparently hold a lot
47:14
Speaker 27: of treasuries, a lot of our debt, and they have
47:16
Speaker 27: no money. So if they start selling off all their treasuries,
47:20
Speaker 27: what's that going to do to rates? That's going to
47:22
Speaker 27: move them up. So there's a discussion out there if
47:26
Speaker 27: we should extend currency swaps to these other countries, like
47:30
Speaker 27: the UAE and Kuwait. And guess what's going to happen
47:32
Speaker 27: if we send them currency?
47:34
Speaker 8: Well, Are they going to pay it back?
47:36
Speaker 27: Because we have a history at the Fed of other
47:39
Speaker 27: countries doing currency swaps, and we do just like Joe
47:42
Speaker 27: Biden did with the non-forgivable loans. I don't know how
47:46
Speaker 27: you have a loan if you never have to pay
47:48
Speaker 27: it back. That's not a loan anymore. But that's what
47:50
Speaker 27: we do with other countries. We give them currencies to
47:52
Speaker 27: prop up their treasury so they don't sell them on
47:55
Speaker 27: the open market and send our interest rates through the roof.
47:58
Speaker 27: So we're going to be probably sending money to Kuwait,
48:02
Speaker 27: the UAE, all these places, just so they don't sell
48:05
Speaker 27: off all their treasuries and then cause a panic and
48:08
Speaker 27: shoot up interest rates even higher. Because the last few days,
48:11
Speaker 27: those have gone through the roof. It's not even just
48:14
Speaker 27: our country. Japan's are going through the roof. That's not
48:18
Speaker 27: a good thing. And could you imagine if one year
48:21
Speaker 27: we actually had a down year in the stock market
48:23
Speaker 27: and the treasury didn't take in tons of tax revenue?
48:26
Speaker 27: from everybody paying the taxes on all their gains from
48:29
Speaker 27: the stock market, like 10% of the revenue is from
48:33
Speaker 27: tax gain, taxable gains on your investments. There's so many
48:38
Speaker 27: fragile things out there right now that just one of
48:41
Speaker 27: these things goes wrong, I don't know where it's going
48:43
Speaker 27: to go, and it could be a real slippery slope.
48:45
Speaker 27: And I think I know who would be the best
48:47
Speaker 27: person to talk about that. Did you hear back from
48:49
Speaker 27: Dane Davis?
48:50
Speaker 1: Yes, I did, and... Boy, you're on your game anymore.
48:57
Speaker 1: You are really keeping me on the edge of my seat. Well,
49:00
Speaker 1: I've got to keep you in the know. You've got
49:02
Speaker 1: to keep me focused. Let me see. Did I hear back? Yeah,
49:08
Speaker 1: let's see. Can you come on a show next week?
49:10
Speaker 1: I text him. He says, let me check. I should
49:14
Speaker 1: be open Friday.
49:15
Speaker 9: Okay.
49:17
Speaker 1: Is what he said. The key word, should be.
49:20
Speaker 16: Open.
49:20
Speaker 1: So he's busy. So hopefully I will. So he's planning
49:24
Speaker 1: shooting for Friday. But Dane Davis, those of you who
49:28
Speaker 1: haven't heard him, is probably one of the, I think,
49:31
Speaker 1: just brilliant. He explains the economy. He's been right. Every
49:36
Speaker 1: time I've had him on, always talking about the economy,
49:39
Speaker 1: he's got 100% accuracy rate with me on everything.
49:45
Speaker 3: 100%.
49:45
Speaker 1: Imagine that. When they would be saying it's transitory, and
49:48
Speaker 1: he said, no, it's not. Or when they'd be talking
49:50
Speaker 1: about tariffs, and he said, no, that's not going to happen.
49:52
Speaker 1: He's been right on everything. So I'll be curious his
49:56
Speaker 1: take on what's going on.
49:58
Speaker 27: I can tell just from that response that the economy
50:01
Speaker 27: is not doing well. Because if everything were fine, he
50:03
Speaker 27: would have got right back to you and said, yeah,
50:05
Speaker 27: I'm available at any time. But he must be busy
50:07
Speaker 27: because he's trying to figure out what's going on.
50:10
Speaker 1: Well, you brought up a bunch of points. And I'm
50:14
Speaker 1: not Dane Davis, but I would say to you, am
50:16
Speaker 1: I supposed to ignore the trillions of dollars in debt
50:20
Speaker 1: that we are now and how fast the debt is growing?
50:23
Speaker 1: as though that isn't something to be concerned about. For example,
50:27
Speaker 1: that debt, how fast it's growing, and how much of
50:30
Speaker 1: our yearly income from taxes goes to simply pay the
50:34
Speaker 1: interest on that. Should I be ignoring that as though
50:37
Speaker 1: that's not a factor? Should I say at some point
50:40
Speaker 1: the crap isn't going to hit the fan? It's our
50:43
Speaker 1: second biggest expense is just paying the interest on our
50:46
Speaker 1: debt and the deficit as it continues to grow. Our
50:49
Speaker 1: second biggest expense.
50:51
Speaker 27: We're going to hit $ 40 trillion. probably by the end
50:53
Speaker 27: of the year. And that's an inconceivable number to most people.
50:58
Speaker 27: And that's the thing. Does it even mean anything anymore?
51:01
Speaker 27: What's the difference, realistically, if you're $ 30 trillion, $ 40 trillion,
51:03
Speaker 27: $ 50 trillion? That's like drowning under three miles of water,
51:07
Speaker 27: two miles of water, one mile of water. It's still
51:10
Speaker 27: just as bad any.
51:10
Speaker 8: Way you get it. We can't pay it off.
51:13
Speaker 27: The only thing we could do is hopefully kick the
51:15
Speaker 27: can further and further down the road.
51:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, but at what point... Does the crap hit the wall?
51:22
Speaker 1: I mean, you keep kicking it further down the road,
51:25
Speaker 1: but it keeps growing at a number that's larger than
51:29
Speaker 1: numbers have been in the past. It's growing. Go ahead.
51:34
Speaker 27: You would have a problem if your debt kept growing
51:37
Speaker 27: and growing. We don't have a problem from our Federal
51:40
Speaker 27: Reserve and our country because when we have more debt,
51:43
Speaker 27: we just print more money. So it's not going to
51:45
Speaker 27: matter to the country as a whole. What it's going
51:47
Speaker 27: to do is completely bifurcate and continue to divide our
51:50
Speaker 27: population with the haves and the have-nots. Just like I said,
51:53
Speaker 27: the inflation is going to go through the roof and
51:55
Speaker 27: it's going to continuously get worse and worse. So you're
51:58
Speaker 27: going to have a lot of people that are going
51:59
Speaker 27: to get very wealthy from inflation who own assets, and
52:02
Speaker 27: you're going to see a lot of people who are
52:04
Speaker 27: going to do even worse because they are getting drowned
52:07
Speaker 27: by the inflation because they live paycheck to paycheck and
52:09
Speaker 27: they don't have assets. So the middle class is going
52:12
Speaker 27: to get completely wiped out.
52:14
Speaker 1: But as I've said a million times, as I would
52:15
Speaker 1: say to all of you again, revolutions are fought on
52:18
Speaker 1: hungry bellies. And the last thing you need.
52:21
Speaker 27: We won't have hungry bellies because we can print money
52:24
Speaker 27: to subsidize all this. Look what's going on Medicaid in Ohio.
52:28
Speaker 27: Do you think they're talking about 500,000 people might be
52:31
Speaker 27: cut from Medicaid in Ohio over the next 10 years?
52:33
Speaker 27: There's probably just like Dave Thomas said, there's probably 500,000
52:37
Speaker 27: people that have no business being on it. So how
52:39
Speaker 27: do you fight a revolution on hungry bellies if nobody
52:42
Speaker 27: actually gets a hungry belly because we keep sending.
52:44
Speaker 8: Paychecks to them?
52:46
Speaker 27: It's those people that are supposed to be the ones
52:48
Speaker 27: fighting it, but we're never going to have that. There's
52:50
Speaker 27: a good YouTube video on right now. It's the history
52:53
Speaker 27: of Youngstown. And it just goes back through how we
52:56
Speaker 27: developed steel, iron, everything, and how we became an unbelievable
53:00
Speaker 27: city in the 20s and 30s.
53:02
Speaker 13: Just phenomenal.
53:04
Speaker 27: It was because people came here from all over the
53:06
Speaker 27: world and all over the country, and they were sweating
53:09
Speaker 27: all day, all night, all shifts, because they worked. They
53:12
Speaker 27: were pouring steel.
53:13
Speaker 17: It was a horrible place.
53:14
Speaker 8: It was a horrible job.
53:15
Speaker 27: It But what choice did you have? You either went
53:19
Speaker 27: to work and made money or you were hungry. There
53:21
Speaker 27: weren't all these social welfare systems where you could just
53:24
Speaker 27: sit on your arses, you say, and collect it.
53:27
Speaker 8: So what happened?
53:28
Speaker 27: Well, they went to work because there was no other option.
53:31
Speaker 27: We don't have that anymore.
53:32
Speaker 17: We have no austerity.
53:33
Speaker 27: No politician is going to come out and say, I'm
53:35
Speaker 27: going to cut.
53:36
Speaker 12: All this aid.
53:37
Speaker 27: I'm going to cut all the welfare system. I'm going
53:39
Speaker 27: to cut all the Medicaid. Go find a job or
53:41
Speaker 27: go hungry.
53:42
Speaker 28: Well, guess what?
53:43
Speaker 27: That would make January 6th probably look like a tea party.
53:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you take a look at it, look
53:50
Speaker 1: at the bellyaching that took place when they just didn't
53:52
Speaker 1: want to continue the Obama extensions that were put in
53:59
Speaker 1: during COVID. Take a look at the bellyache and it
54:01
Speaker 1: took place from the Democrats who put those extensions in
54:06
Speaker 1: or aid in, if you will, during COVID and the
54:09
Speaker 1: timeframe that it was not to be permanent but temporary
54:12
Speaker 1: and end in five years so then when they were
54:14
Speaker 1: sunsetting and covid's a thing of the past what did
54:17
Speaker 1: the democrats say you can't let that end people are
54:20
Speaker 1: going to take a substantial increase in their premiums for
54:23
Speaker 1: the affordable care act well so.
54:27
Speaker 27: There's nothing more permanent than a temporary government system So
54:31
Speaker 27: whenever anything's temporary, it's going to last forever. Because once
54:34
Speaker 27: you give somebody something, it becomes expected after that.
54:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, but here's the problem with it.
54:39
Speaker 8: If you try to take it away from them, then you.
54:40
Speaker 1: Lose the vote. When they make it temporary and they
54:42
Speaker 1: make it five years because they figure, okay, it won't
54:45
Speaker 1: affect the current administration, it'll be the next guy's problem.
54:49
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a shining example of where people are.
54:52
Speaker 1: What do you mean you're going to? These are all temporary.
54:54
Speaker 1: They were there to assist people during COVID. All of
54:56
Speaker 1: a sudden, the Democrats thought they should be permanent and
54:58
Speaker 1: they were constantly running on. Oh, look at the Republicans
55:01
Speaker 1: want to cut people's health care. No, they wanted to
55:04
Speaker 1: cut the subsidies when you said they were temporary in
55:07
Speaker 1: the beginning. Now you're arguing that they should be permanent.
55:10
Speaker 1: It was never intended to be that way. And never
55:12
Speaker 1: did I hear any of them say, what about the
55:15
Speaker 1: increased cost in health care that individuals are paying or
55:18
Speaker 1: companies are paying? They weren't even remotely concerned about that.
55:22
Speaker 27: We all have the shortest attention spans, and they're just
55:25
Speaker 27: getting worse and worse. Look, Trump and the whole administration
55:27
Speaker 27: goes over to China. Did you hear anything about, hey,
55:29
Speaker 27: by the way, what.
55:30
Speaker 8: Happened with COVID?
55:31
Speaker 27: Remember when you stopped letting flights go in your country?
55:34
Speaker 27: Remember when you sent the virus over to us? Remember
55:36
Speaker 27: when Trump called it the China virus?
55:38
Speaker 4: Yes.
55:39
Speaker 29: Nothing now.
55:39
Speaker 27: It's all under the rug. I mean, Trump got shot
55:42
Speaker 27: in the ear, in the head.
55:43
Speaker 17: Do you hear anything?
55:44
Speaker 19: Nope.
55:44
Speaker 12: All under the rug.
55:46
Speaker 9: Listen to this.
55:47
Speaker 27: Whatever happened to Iran running out of oil storage? Because
55:50
Speaker 27: about 12 days ago, I thought it was supposed to
55:52
Speaker 27: be about now. And I haven't heard anything about that.
55:55
Speaker 27: Where's their oil storage where they're going to have to
55:57
Speaker 27: stop pumping their oil and they're going to completely crater
56:00
Speaker 27: their economy? I haven't heard a thing about it.
56:03
Speaker 1: Well, I heard where they got some of these old
56:05
Speaker 1: ships back out, and so we're filling them with oil.
56:08
Speaker 1: And then there was an oil slick they were saying
56:10
Speaker 1: in the ocean the other day. Did they release some
56:13
Speaker 1: oil to try to make more room or something along
56:17
Speaker 1: those lines? I mean, it appears to me that there's
56:20
Speaker 1: a problem in where they need to store it. If
56:23
Speaker 1: you can't sell it, it's hard to shut it off, basically.
56:27
Speaker 1: If you shut it off, I don't understand it. They
56:29
Speaker 1: say it compromises a well and brings water into it.
56:33
Speaker 1: So you've got to keep it running. Once it's started,
56:35
Speaker 1: you can't stop it.
56:37
Speaker 27: I think there was a chance that the whole military
56:39
Speaker 27: excursion on the very first day was too successful. We
56:42
Speaker 27: don't even know who's in charge.
56:44
Speaker 1: There he is. People know him. They love him. They
56:46
Speaker 1: think he's got great insight. Alec, thank you. We'll be
56:49
Speaker 1: right back. Youngstown's News, Weather, and Talk Station, 570 WKBN.
56:57
Speaker 1: And Ron Ferb, News Radio 570 WKBN. You're on the air.
57:01
Speaker 7: Yes, how are you doing, Ron?
57:02
Speaker 4: I'm well.
57:02
Speaker 7: I enjoyed the last couple of callers. I heard a
57:05
Speaker 7: caller a couple back that mentioned AI. And I think
57:11
Speaker 7: that's our biggest threat to this country is not Iran
57:14
Speaker 7: and the war. It's AI. But if you have serious money,
57:21
Speaker 7: it's your friend. You're going to make a lot of money. AI,
57:25
Speaker 7: there's no way you're going to stop it.
57:27
Speaker 9: So..
57:29
Speaker 7: Starting with your county commissioners all the way up to
57:32
Speaker 7: the president. It's a done deal. AI is going to
57:36
Speaker 7: go wherever they want to go. And, for example, take
57:39
Speaker 7: a look at Utah. They're proposing a 40,000-acre data center
57:45
Speaker 7: in Utah, which would consume, listen to this, 9 gigawatts
57:50
Speaker 7: of power. You know what that is? That's more than
57:53
Speaker 7: twice Utah State's current output.
57:57
Speaker 1: Where are you supposed to come up with that amount
57:58
Speaker 1: of power?
57:59
Speaker 7: Well, here's the thing. If you watch, you know who
58:03
Speaker 7: Kevin O'Leary is?
58:05
Speaker 4: Yes.
58:05
Speaker 7: One of the billionaires on Shark Tank. He was interviewed
58:08
Speaker 7: by Tucker on AI last week. And he was saying,
58:14
Speaker 7: there's no way we're going to stop it. Granted, we
58:20
Speaker 7: have to come up with the power in the water,
58:22
Speaker 7: but our technology is getting a lot better with turbines. Basically,
58:26
Speaker 7: what you need, you need energy to create power. steam
58:29
Speaker 7: to turn the turbines to produce the electricity. And he
58:34
Speaker 7: said there's new technology out that the data centers are
58:37
Speaker 7: going to use to help produce their own power and
58:41
Speaker 7: then sell back or give back some of the power
58:44
Speaker 7: to the surrounding communities. There's no way you think you
58:49
Speaker 7: can stop AI by going to a county commissioner meeting.
58:53
Speaker 7: He said it's not going to happen because AI, it's
58:57
Speaker 7: a sealed deal. either we get it or the chinese
59:01
Speaker 7: get it first and that's why it's our biggest national
59:05
Speaker 7: security threat, not Iran.
59:09
Speaker 1: How are you supposed to cover the electric demand right now?
59:15
Speaker 1: I mean, when you're talking about AI in these data centers,
59:18
Speaker 1: we're not talking about years from now, we're talking about
59:21
Speaker 1: the present. And where was I reading where they were
59:25
Speaker 1: saying that What community were they saying in a year
59:29
Speaker 1: and a half, we're not going to have any power
59:32
Speaker 1: for you?
59:35
Speaker 7: They're going to have power for you. It's going to
59:38
Speaker 7: be very expensive. So to all the listeners out there
59:41
Speaker 7: who are not on an aggregate with their communities, and
59:44
Speaker 7: I happen to be in one that doesn't have an aggregate,
59:47
Speaker 7: what you want to do now is lock into a,
59:51
Speaker 7: not a one-year contract, but a two-, three-year contract for
59:54
Speaker 7: your electricity. even though it seems high in a year
59:59
Speaker 7: or two it's going to be very cheap so that's
1:00:01
Speaker 7: what the people should be doing right now with their
1:00:04
Speaker 7: contracts are coming up go short-term six months one year
1:00:09
Speaker 7: you want to go out further and then the other
1:00:12
Speaker 7: thing is you can make a lot of money with
1:00:16
Speaker 7: this a i'd trade i'd just go with the uh...
1:00:19
Speaker 7: a i'd stocks and follow what your congressmen, senators, and
1:00:25
Speaker 7: President Trump are doing. If you just follow the stocks
1:00:28
Speaker 7: they're buying, they're buying AI stocks. And I noticed the
1:00:33
Speaker 7: Trump family trust, they just released his May purchases, and
1:00:39
Speaker 7: he is big into crypto. He bought a lot of
1:00:42
Speaker 7: Coinbase Global and MicroStrategy, which invest in Bitcoin. So the
1:00:48
Speaker 7: Trump family is in AI stocks, not only AI, but
1:00:53
Speaker 7: they're also into crypto. And that's what you could look at.
1:00:58
Speaker 7: And then I did it listening to, who was the
1:01:00
Speaker 7: last caller, Alex?
1:01:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, before I get to that, but what AI stocks
1:01:05
Speaker 1: do you happen like?
1:01:07
Speaker 7: Oh, I'll tell you. Google, Microsoft. I love Microsoft. I've
1:01:13
Speaker 7: been adding to Microsoft, and I've been selling a lot
1:01:16
Speaker 7: of cash-secured puts to add more if the price should
1:01:20
Speaker 7: drop down.
1:01:21
Speaker 1: How much is Microsoft to share?
1:01:23
Speaker 7: Microsoft is around, oh, what is it now? Three, hold
1:01:28
Speaker 7: on a minute, I'll tell you.
1:01:29
Speaker 2: 300?
1:01:29
Speaker 1: It's over 300. I share.
1:01:32
Speaker 7: Let's see. It is $ 423.
1:01:37
Speaker 1: I share.
1:01:39
Speaker 7: That's a good price. Anything below, you could sell a
1:01:42
Speaker 7: cash-secured put. I've been doing it at like $ 390.
1:01:48
Speaker 18: 385-370.
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Speaker 1: Stand by. Just stand by for a second. Hang on.
1:01:51
Speaker 1: I'll get back to him in a minute. Ron Furman,
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Speaker 1: NewsRadio 570. Doty Kubian, Intelligent Caller. I'll pick up my
1:01:56
Speaker 1: conversation with him and more right after this. The Sky.
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Speaker 1: News Radio 570. WKVN. WKVN. Hidey-ho, boys and girls. 435
1:02:07
Speaker 1: on a Monday afternoon, May 18th. We're at 89 degrees.
1:02:11
Speaker 1: And it's not raining today. The sun is shining. It's
1:02:13
Speaker 1: not raining. Things are starting to dry out. And we
1:02:15
Speaker 1: couldn't be happier about that. All right, I want to
1:02:17
Speaker 1: go back to Intelligent Caller. Basically... I agree with you
1:02:21
Speaker 1: if you're saying all these people are trying to fight AI.
1:02:25
Speaker 1: You can't fight technology. It's coming whether you like it
1:02:28
Speaker 1: or not. And I also say to all those people
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Speaker 1: in these local communities, you're going to use it too.
1:02:34
Speaker 1: You're almost like a hypocrite. You're going to use it,
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Speaker 1: but you don't want a data center in your community.
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Speaker 1: And I go back to say this. This doesn't make
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Speaker 1: any sense to me. And perhaps you could elaborate on
1:02:46
Speaker 1: it if you agree or not. If you put a
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Speaker 1: data center here, I would prefer it in this area
1:02:54
Speaker 1: because it can lower your property taxes. If you put
1:02:57
Speaker 1: that data center, let's say, in Lordstown and North Jackson,
1:03:01
Speaker 1: part of it was going to be in Lordstown, part
1:03:02
Speaker 1: of it was going to be in North Jackson, then
1:03:04
Speaker 1: the property taxes for everybody in those two communities would
1:03:08
Speaker 1: be lowered because a lot of the fixed levy costs
1:03:12
Speaker 1: would be shifted to that huge building and And their
1:03:15
Speaker 1: property taxes, as long as you make sure there are
1:03:19
Speaker 1: zero tax abatements given by anybody, the state or local community,
1:03:24
Speaker 1: there can be zero tax abatements. That would be the requirements.
1:03:28
Speaker 1: So if that's the case, your local property taxes could
1:03:32
Speaker 1: come down because a lot of that burden being shifted
1:03:35
Speaker 1: to that facility. And if you build that facility anywhere
1:03:38
Speaker 1: within the grid, which is substantial, you know, it's state's. well,
1:03:44
Speaker 1: your electric costs could go up without getting any of
1:03:46
Speaker 1: those benefits anyway. Do you agree with that?
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Speaker 7: Part of it. I agree with part of it. You're
1:03:53
Speaker 7: going to have deals made with the politicians. There's no
1:03:57
Speaker 7: way around that. Politicians will be politicians.
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Speaker 1: But why screw the person? When you say deals are made,
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Speaker 1: why should a data center get any tax abatement at all? Because,
1:04:09
Speaker 1: I say it again, they need this location. because we
1:04:12
Speaker 1: have the infrastructure as far as the transmission lines, and
1:04:16
Speaker 1: we have the perfect weather for data centers. It's not
1:04:20
Speaker 1: like Florida where it's really hot. It's basically you got
1:04:24
Speaker 1: a lot of cool weather, cloudy skies. And remember, data
1:04:29
Speaker 1: centers generate a lot of heat, takes a lot of cooling.
1:04:32
Speaker 1: This is an ideal location for data centers weather-wise and
1:04:36
Speaker 1: transmission line-wise. I mean, so why should we kowtow to them?
1:04:41
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. Politicians are idiots and would
1:04:44
Speaker 1: do it anyway, or the state would do it. I
1:04:46
Speaker 1: wouldn't give them a damn thing. I think they want
1:04:49
Speaker 1: to be here.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Kevin O'Leary basically said that the politicians, it's already
1:04:55
Speaker 7: a done deal. All the deals have been made, and
1:04:58
Speaker 7: there's a lot of nondisclosure agreements in a lot of
1:05:02
Speaker 7: counties that are stopping the people from seeing what's actually
1:05:07
Speaker 7: going on. But he did argue that he said when
1:05:09
Speaker 7: these are up and running, he said they're going to
1:05:12
Speaker 7: generate a grid benefiting electricity. And it's going to actually help...
1:05:19
Speaker 7: If they have natural gas, it's going to be useful.
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Speaker 1: You're saying if they have their own energy plants, the
1:05:24
Speaker 1: data center, right?
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Speaker 15: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm going to ask you a question as
1:05:29
Speaker 1: an investor and a smart one that you are. I'll
1:05:31
Speaker 1: say it again. Once again, if we keep shifting natural
1:05:35
Speaker 1: gas to all of these electric-producing facilities, you don't think
1:05:39
Speaker 1: your natural gas usage is going to spike and you're
1:05:41
Speaker 1: going to be paying more to heat your house in
1:05:43
Speaker 1: the winter around here? If you don't have diversity... that
1:05:47
Speaker 1: is out there to create electricity, hydro, nuclear, all this diversity,
1:05:52
Speaker 1: and you put all your eggs in one basket, as
1:05:54
Speaker 1: it seems we're doing with natural gas, then the demand
1:05:58
Speaker 1: for natural gas goes up, and in turn, your price
1:06:01
Speaker 1: will go up.
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Speaker 7: We're number one in natural gas in the world.
1:06:05
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. We've got all this oil, and you're
1:06:08
Speaker 1: still paying $ 4. 50. They're going to give you the same argument. Well,
1:06:11
Speaker 1: it's the global markets, and there's huge demand and all
1:06:15
Speaker 1: of this stuff. It's not going to matter that it's
1:06:17
Speaker 1: right under my feet. They're going to say, well, that
1:06:19
Speaker 1: doesn't do you any good. It's the global markets. We
1:06:22
Speaker 1: liquefy it. We sell it to all these other countries.
1:06:25
Speaker 1: You're going to have to get with the picture and
1:06:26
Speaker 1: pay more.
1:06:28
Speaker 7: Well, we also have coal. We have a lot of
1:06:31
Speaker 7: clean coal, and I don't know how fast we can
1:06:34
Speaker 7: get these plants up and running to supply the electricity,
1:06:38
Speaker 7: but I think it's pretty well thought out. The AI
1:06:43
Speaker 7: blueprint is a done deal, like I said. That's why
1:06:47
Speaker 7: you see the AI stocks performing so well. I mean,
1:06:52
Speaker 7: look at the NVIDIA market. Morgan Stan just came out
1:06:56
Speaker 7: today with an overweight on NVIDIA, and they upped their
1:07:00
Speaker 7: price target to $ 2. 85 from $ 2. 60 based on just the
1:07:05
Speaker 7: AI thesis and the AI coming online. So, you know,
1:07:11
Speaker 7: even Trump, Trump and all the politicians are in it,
1:07:15
Speaker 7: and I found it really interesting on Trump's latest purchases
1:07:19
Speaker 7: in crypto. I know his sons were heavy into crypto,
1:07:23
Speaker 7: but the family trusts, put some serious money into two stocks,
1:07:30
Speaker 7: which the average guy shouldn't touch, and they're very risky,
1:07:33
Speaker 7: Coinbase and MicroStrategy. But you can make a lot of money.
1:07:41
Speaker 7: If you have serious money, you're going to make a
1:07:43
Speaker 7: lot of money. And getting back, I think that Alex
1:07:47
Speaker 7: was talking about the history of Youngstown.
1:07:49
Speaker 16: Yes.
1:07:50
Speaker 7: I remember back in the mid-50s when I was a
1:07:53
Speaker 7: kid walking to school, we had at the Youngstown Air Base,
1:07:57
Speaker 7: our congressman at that time was Mike Kerwin. He was
1:08:00
Speaker 7: the Speaker of the House. We had a fighter squadron
1:08:05
Speaker 7: out at the air base defending Youngstown, Ohio. That's how
1:08:08
Speaker 7: strategic we were in the mid-50s with our steel production.
1:08:13
Speaker 7: And you would always see these... I think they were
1:08:16
Speaker 7: Delta Daggers, the F-102s flying overhead. We got the biggest
1:08:20
Speaker 7: kick out of it in formation. They would fly over
1:08:23
Speaker 7: downtown Youngstown, the north side, all over the area here
1:08:27
Speaker 7: on maneuvers.
1:08:30
Speaker 1: Back in the day. I want to ask you this
1:08:32
Speaker 1: question because you're a smart guy. How do you assess
1:08:35
Speaker 1: the economy right now?
1:08:37
Speaker 7: The economy? If you're a little guy, it's terrible. I
1:08:41
Speaker 7: feel bad for all the little people. If you have money...
1:08:44
Speaker 7: This is the best time to be alive. I'm telling you,
1:08:47
Speaker 7: you can make money hand over fist, and your financial
1:08:52
Speaker 7: guys will tell you that. But if you're the little
1:08:54
Speaker 7: guy just scraping along paycheck to paycheck, the economy is
1:08:59
Speaker 7: not good. And what surprised me when Trump came out
1:09:02
Speaker 7: over the weekend, they asked him on Air Force One,
1:09:06
Speaker 7: don't you care about the economy? And he told a reporter,
1:09:10
Speaker 7: I don't care about anything except that Iran's not going
1:09:13
Speaker 7: to have the bomb. And I said, well, He's just
1:09:16
Speaker 7: spitting on the little average, you know, worker in this country.
1:09:20
Speaker 7: I mean, the guy, I stopped following Trump. I just
1:09:24
Speaker 7: follow my stocks now in business. And, you know, the
1:09:27
Speaker 7: guy has gone back on every promise he made. And
1:09:31
Speaker 7: I just, no wonder his popularity is down to, what, 70%
1:09:36
Speaker 7: of the country is against him. And that's bad. But,
1:09:40
Speaker 7: you know, because you definitely don't want the Democrats running
1:09:44
Speaker 7: the country. But it seems the Republicans can't get out
1:09:48
Speaker 7: of their own way. I mean, they're just terrible.
1:09:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
1:09:54
Speaker 1: And so there's more, as you say, the little guy.
1:09:56
Speaker 1: There's more little guys than there are the big guys
1:09:59
Speaker 1: when it comes to the economy.
1:10:00
Speaker 21: Definitely.
1:10:01
Speaker 7: And you were talking about the Senate race in Ohio,
1:10:04
Speaker 7: if you would vote for Brown or Houston. I mean,
1:10:07
Speaker 7: I'm seriously considering not voting for either one of them.
1:10:11
Speaker 7: I mean, Houston was the Attorney General... He let fraud
1:10:15
Speaker 7: go on in this state for the last, how many
1:10:18
Speaker 7: years was it going on, that the Attorney General DeWine,
1:10:22
Speaker 7: they all turned a blind eye to what was going
1:10:25
Speaker 7: on in Springfield, what was going on in Columbus, all
1:10:29
Speaker 7: of the fraud everywhere. And now he wants to be
1:10:33
Speaker 7: our senator. And I just, you know, I can't vote
1:10:38
Speaker 7: for either one of those.
1:10:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, but by not, sometimes you have to hold your
1:10:41
Speaker 1: nose and vote because you know the worst of the
1:10:45
Speaker 1: two is Sherrod Brown. I mean, you know that you
1:10:50
Speaker 1: have to go with, you have to vote.
1:10:53
Speaker 15: You know what?
1:10:54
Speaker 7: Sherrod Brown wasn't on the Epstein list. I mean, that's
1:10:58
Speaker 7: one thing you could say about Sherrod Brown. He has
1:11:00
Speaker 7: no Wexler-Epstein money. I don't think he had any AIPAC money.
1:11:07
Speaker 7: That's one thing that's a plus in his column. And
1:11:11
Speaker 7: our new attorney general that DeWine appointed is just a
1:11:15
Speaker 7: yes man that he's not going to go after fraud.
1:11:18
Speaker 7: So it's going to be business as usual in the state.
1:11:22
Speaker 7: And a funny note, I got a letter from the
1:11:25
Speaker 7: IRS on my last tax return. They wanted more documentation
1:11:31
Speaker 7: on my investments in supporting data. And, you know, I...
1:11:36
Speaker 7: I put in everything I needed to put in. But
1:11:39
Speaker 7: I'm saying, look at these people. They're coming after me,
1:11:42
Speaker 7: an honest citizen. You know what I paid in tax
1:11:45
Speaker 7: last year? It would knock you over if you knew.
1:11:48
Speaker 7: But I'm paying. I'm filling out all the paperwork, doing
1:11:52
Speaker 7: it correctly, and they're still hounding me. These bloodsuckers are
1:11:56
Speaker 7: still coming after me. Yet all of the people in
1:11:59
Speaker 7: this state, all of the fraud, it's just going on.
1:12:03
Speaker 11: It's a joke.
1:12:05
Speaker 20: It's a joke.
1:12:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're sitting there saying the Somalians are getting
1:12:09
Speaker 1: away with stealing millions and billions of dollars, and they're
1:12:12
Speaker 1: going over your tax return with a fine-tooth comb. And
1:12:15
Speaker 1: you paid a bundle in.
1:12:16
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think the next letter I get, I'll say,
1:12:19
Speaker 7: just schedule an appointment and set me up for an audit.
1:12:22
Speaker 7: I want to talk to a person, and we'll do it,
1:12:25
Speaker 7: you know, over a desk. And take your time out
1:12:31
Speaker 7: for the nickel and dime that they're going to get
1:12:33
Speaker 7: out of me, but... I can see on Trump on
1:12:38
Speaker 7: his lawsuit that was a good thing that he did
1:12:40
Speaker 7: when they weaponized the IRS.
1:12:44
Speaker 1: But it sounds to me that I find your comments
1:12:52
Speaker 1: interesting in the sense of it sounds to me like, what,
1:12:56
Speaker 1: you've had enough of Trump? Is that fair to say?
1:12:59
Speaker 5: Uh..
1:13:01
Speaker 7: Basically i've stopped following trump i mean he's he's almost
1:13:05
Speaker 7: a joke now and what i do watch i watch
1:13:08
Speaker 7: saturday night live to see what their their comedy skits
1:13:11
Speaker 7: on trump and actually now i used to really get
1:13:14
Speaker 7: mad when i see him now i said well they're
1:13:16
Speaker 7: starting to make a little bit of sense and they're.
1:13:18
Speaker 1: Funny why did they what why those i don't say
1:13:22
Speaker 1: the turn on trump why the difference uh..
1:13:26
Speaker 6: Uh..
1:13:26
Speaker 1: Why the difference perspective on trump now.
1:13:30
Speaker 7: Well that's the two biggest things the epstein files when
1:13:35
Speaker 7: when he keeps coming out in pressuring congressman like you
1:13:38
Speaker 7: know bobert and now matthew that you know just shut
1:13:43
Speaker 7: up be quiet and we don't want to hurt my
1:13:45
Speaker 7: friends who happened to by the way be pedophiles but
1:13:49
Speaker 7: we're gonna let that slide and uh... that really bothers
1:13:53
Speaker 7: me you know He said he was going to release it,
1:13:56
Speaker 7: and he didn't release it. And now the other thing
1:14:01
Speaker 7: was the drill, baby, drill. We're going to bring your
1:14:05
Speaker 7: energy costs down. Like I mentioned earlier, sign up for
1:14:08
Speaker 7: a two-year electric program because your energy costs aren't going down.
1:14:14
Speaker 7: Gas or electricity, they're going to be going up. So
1:14:17
Speaker 7: he reneged on that promise. That was his big one.
1:14:20
Speaker 7: In all the campaigns... It was drill, baby, drill. Your
1:14:25
Speaker 7: bills are going to be so much lower, you'll be
1:14:28
Speaker 7: sick of winning. And, you know, I bought into that
1:14:30
Speaker 7: the first couple of times, and then that bothered me.
1:14:34
Speaker 7: The other thing was getting into the war with Iran
1:14:38
Speaker 7: when we didn't have to, and especially right before the
1:14:43
Speaker 7: midterm elections, what I could never understand, and letting the
1:14:46
Speaker 7: Israelis control so much of our decision-making. That really bothered me. Well,
1:14:52
Speaker 7: his daughter is converted. She's Jewish. His son-in-law is Jewish.
1:14:57
Speaker 7: He's got connections. And then all of his key aides
1:15:02
Speaker 7: are Jewish.
1:15:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you take a look, who was the
1:15:06
Speaker 1: guy that he endorsed a candidate against and he lost
1:15:12
Speaker 1: just this past weekend where it was, what, a two-term?
1:15:18
Speaker 7: Cassidy lost. That was the senator from Louisiana.
1:15:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, voted against Trump, and Trump had it out for him,
1:15:27
Speaker 1: and he ended up losing. Now, tomorrow's going to be
1:15:30
Speaker 1: interesting to see what happens with Massey, who he is
1:15:34
Speaker 1: really Trump. He being Trump really, really just seems like
1:15:40
Speaker 1: he has a hatred of Massey. Why does he hate
1:15:41
Speaker 1: Massey so much?
1:15:43
Speaker 7: Because Massey is the only member of Congress that doesn't
1:15:47
Speaker 7: take AIPAC money. And if you look at your, whenever
1:15:51
Speaker 7: you hold your phone, your iPhone, and you swipe it
1:15:54
Speaker 7: with your finger, think of Massey. You know, he's one
1:15:58
Speaker 7: of the guys, he was an MIT engineer. He was
1:16:01
Speaker 7: one of the guys that came up with a patent
1:16:03
Speaker 7: for the touchscreens on all the smart devices. I mean,
1:16:07
Speaker 7: Massey's a very smart guy, and he's got a lot
1:16:10
Speaker 7: of money. He can't be bought. And, you know, I
1:16:14
Speaker 7: did think Trump couldn't be bought at one time, being
1:16:17
Speaker 7: the billionaire that he is. But I think Trump's being
1:16:22
Speaker 7: influenced a lot by his donors.
1:16:28
Speaker 1: So, I mean, he just, I mean, his attack on what, Bobart,
1:16:33
Speaker 1: and I saw that the other day, and Massey. I mean,
1:16:36
Speaker 1: he's really, really... going after Massey hard. Huge money coming
1:16:41
Speaker 1: in from APAC and that kind of stuff into that
1:16:44
Speaker 1: congressional race. I mean, it's an ridiculous amount of money
1:16:49
Speaker 1: outside money is going in there to try to defeat Massey.
1:16:53
Speaker 7: Yeah, I really, really don't care about that race anymore.
1:16:55
Speaker 7: I did it one time. I wanted Massey to win,
1:16:58
Speaker 7: but the guy that's up against him, who's being backed
1:17:01
Speaker 7: by the APAC money, is a Navy SEAL, and he's
1:17:04
Speaker 7: got pretty good credentials, so it It doesn't really matter,
1:17:09
Speaker 7: you know, who wins that race. There's still going to
1:17:11
Speaker 7: be an R. But if it's Massey, he's going to
1:17:16
Speaker 7: be a thorn in Trump's side for the next two years.
1:17:21
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it's almost like he's turning on his
1:17:24
Speaker 1: own people.
1:17:25
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's the other, there you had, you hit
1:17:28
Speaker 7: the nail on the head. He's turning on the MAGA people.
1:17:30
Speaker 7: He doesn't care about us. The people that supported him
1:17:33
Speaker 7: went to all his rallies. talk people when the voting
1:17:37
Speaker 7: forum he'd like we don't matter anymore he said that
1:17:41
Speaker 7: the price were paying he said on their force one
1:17:44
Speaker 7: he said it's going to be worth it to keep
1:17:47
Speaker 7: along from getting a bit if i hear that one
1:17:49
Speaker 7: more time i'm going to explode in the same thing
1:17:53
Speaker 7: if i hear one more time we're going to turn
1:17:55
Speaker 7: you into dust and they're going to see a big
1:17:57
Speaker 7: red ball over or land in the coming days if
1:18:00
Speaker 7: you don't get me he keeps bringing up all these
1:18:04
Speaker 7: crazy scenarios, what he's going to do when he never
1:18:08
Speaker 7: does it.
1:18:09
Speaker 1: Why do you think Iran hasn't given in yet?
1:18:13
Speaker 7: Oh, they don't have to. They're holding a lot of cards.
1:18:18
Speaker 7: They can keep that straight closed until Election Day, and
1:18:21
Speaker 7: they know it. And they also have a lot of
1:18:25
Speaker 7: munitions and missiles that they could, if we attack them again,
1:18:29
Speaker 7: they could retaliate against all of the Gulf states. against
1:18:33
Speaker 7: their refineries and all of their desalination plants. They can
1:18:38
Speaker 7: really cause havoc in the Middle East. So Iran, despite
1:18:43
Speaker 7: Trump saying the war was over on day two, the
1:18:46
Speaker 7: war is not over.
1:18:47
Speaker 1: I always appreciate your call and your insight i know
1:18:50
Speaker 1: you're a very smart man a very wise investor thank
1:18:53
Speaker 1: you for your time i appreciate.
1:18:54
Speaker 7: It right see you ron.
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Speaker 9: Oh, no, no, not in jail.
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Speaker 9: My job job.
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Speaker 1: Okay. Oh, making a living. I forgot. Yes.
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Speaker 9: Paying these bills.
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Speaker 11: Yes.
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Speaker 1: You know? Absolutely.
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Speaker 9: Well, my concern, I'm going to tell you, I disagree
1:20:07
Speaker 9: with you on the data centers. And you know who
1:20:10
Speaker 9: else disagrees with you? And someone you very much admire.
1:20:15
Speaker 9: Take a wild guess. You love them.
1:20:19
Speaker 1: Somebody else I very much admire and I love them.
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Speaker 9: You do.
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Speaker 23: You love them.
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Speaker 1: Do you think Dave Thomas disagrees with me?
1:20:29
Speaker 10: Nope.
1:20:30
Speaker 9: I know you are obsessed with Dave Thomas, not him.
1:20:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, because when I talked to him, he agreed with me. Well,
1:20:35
Speaker 1: come on.
1:20:35
Speaker 18: He agrees with you.
1:20:36
Speaker 1: Yes, he agrees with me that it shares the thing. Okay,
1:20:40
Speaker 1: who did I love disagrees with?
1:20:43
Speaker 9: Plechnik.
1:20:44
Speaker 1: Well, explain that to me.
1:20:47
Speaker 18: And I'm going to tell you from my perspective. You
1:20:50
Speaker 18: keep saying you're going to use them. I'm not going
1:20:53
Speaker 18: to use a data center.
1:20:55
Speaker 9: I'm a third party.
1:20:56
Speaker 18: I'm not a first-person user of a data center in
1:20:58
Speaker 18: any way.
1:20:59
Speaker 1: You will over time. Come on, you know as well
1:21:02
Speaker 1: as I do.
1:21:02
Speaker 9: I am not a first-person. Microsoft, Google, they're going to
1:21:06
Speaker 9: use them. These tax abatements, you're acting like we're going
1:21:10
Speaker 9: to get this big payback or it's going to help us.
1:21:16
Speaker 9: It ain't going to help us. How is it going
1:21:18
Speaker 9: to help us? These agreements are all hush-hush. They're all hush-hush.
1:21:25
Speaker 9: The people have to sign these agreements. contracts that don't
1:21:31
Speaker 9: allow anybody to know what was even discussed in them.
1:21:34
Speaker 9: And they are not benefiting the taxpayer.
1:21:37
Speaker 7: It's going to cause.
1:21:38
Speaker 9: Our bills to go up. And many people are saying
1:21:41
Speaker 9: that it will impact water. Now, I know it uses
1:21:45
Speaker 9: a hell of a lot of water, but if it leaches,
1:21:47
Speaker 9: and I don't know about that, but there's a lot
1:21:49
Speaker 9: of concern about it.
1:21:50
Speaker 18: I don't care where they put the data centers, but
1:21:52
Speaker 18: those data centers.
1:21:53
Speaker 9: Are only going to provide about 15, 20 jobs.
1:21:56
Speaker 1: Why are we bending.
1:21:58
Speaker 9: Over backwards for 15 to 20 jobs? I don't care
1:22:00
Speaker 9: about 15 to 20 jobs.
1:22:01
Speaker 18: Okay, stand by.
1:22:03
Speaker 1: Settle down, Beavis. Hang in there for a minute, okay?
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1:24:17
Speaker 1: here to the boss, ladies. So you're saying that you're opposed..
1:24:22
Speaker 31: No jobs.
1:24:22
Speaker 9: The public is asked to provide land. We've got to
1:24:25
Speaker 9: provide all the infrastructure. They're tearing up the roads. They're
1:24:28
Speaker 9: tearing up the land. They get huge, massive tax incentives.
1:24:32
Speaker 9: They're going to utilize our utilities and put strain on them.
1:24:39
Speaker 9: And what benefit are we really getting? And if we
1:24:43
Speaker 9: think that we're getting, oh, well, they're going to be
1:24:46
Speaker 9: valued so high it's going to take strain off of
1:24:49
Speaker 9: the property tax person, that's not true because Ohio uses
1:24:53
Speaker 9: these things called TIFs. And as I was looking about
1:24:56
Speaker 9: this issue, I actually called last week. I called one day.
1:24:59
Speaker 9: I couldn't get on. It was busy, and I just
1:25:00
Speaker 9: hung up. But they use something called a TIF. And
1:25:05
Speaker 9: the more research I did on that is tax increment financing.
1:25:10
Speaker 9: So what happens is, let's say that that farmland pays
1:25:14
Speaker 9: $ 10, 000 a year in property taxes. And then you get
1:25:17
Speaker 9: a data center, it gets built, and then it's valued
1:25:19
Speaker 9: at $ 2 million a year. But the original $ 10, 000 keeps
1:25:23
Speaker 9: going normally. That extra $ 1. 99 million or whatever it is,
1:25:29
Speaker 9: That can be captured by what they call a TIF.
1:25:32
Speaker 9: And that money gets redirected to just help the roads
1:25:35
Speaker 9: that they tore up, the electrical substations, any water lines
1:25:39
Speaker 9: or anything that got messed up during the project. Those TIFs,
1:25:45
Speaker 9: as they call them, are 10 to 30 years. And
1:25:48
Speaker 9: Ohio loves those. So which means no benefit for 30
1:25:52
Speaker 9: years to the community. And no jobs. So I don't
1:25:56
Speaker 9: know why everybody's getting so excited about them. And I'm
1:25:58
Speaker 9: not an end user. And maybe one day, 30 years,
1:26:01
Speaker 9: maybe I'll be dead by the time I'm an end user.
1:26:02
Speaker 9: But right now, Microsoft, Google, those are who benefit from
1:26:05
Speaker 9: these things. We are not going to benefit from these things.
1:26:08
Speaker 9: Bring me something with a lot of jobs. And we're
1:26:13
Speaker 9: giving away farmland.
1:26:14
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
1:26:16
Speaker 9: To me, it's not what it's all hopped up to be.
1:26:18
Speaker 9: And when I saw Plushnik today, I'll forward you. But
1:26:23
Speaker 9: he didn't have very.
1:26:24
Speaker 18: Nice things to say about it either.
1:26:28
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me ask this. First of all, I
1:26:31
Speaker 1: acknowledge the following, and I find it disturbing that it
1:26:35
Speaker 1: seems the federal government wants to take total control over
1:26:42
Speaker 1: the local government and local zoning when it comes to
1:26:45
Speaker 1: data centers. Have you been following this? I mean, it
1:26:49
Speaker 1: really disturbs me that they would have complete control over
1:26:52
Speaker 1: the local community when it comes to data centers. I'm
1:26:56
Speaker 1: opposed to that. When I said to you why I
1:26:58
Speaker 1: support data centers and why I would want them here,
1:27:02
Speaker 1: I know that they don't create a bunch of jobs,
1:27:04
Speaker 1: but just bear with me for a minute. I don't
1:27:06
Speaker 1: go along with DeWine. DeWine, a Republican that says give
1:27:10
Speaker 1: data centers a break on the sales tax for all
1:27:13
Speaker 1: the materials that they buy to build them. When I
1:27:16
Speaker 1: heard that, I thought, there's no reason to do that.
1:27:20
Speaker 1: Once again, if I add on to my garage, I've
1:27:21
Speaker 1: got to pay sales tax on materials, but a data
1:27:24
Speaker 1: center shouldn't for all the material that they want to
1:27:26
Speaker 1: purchase doesn't make any sense to me. When I said
1:27:29
Speaker 1: to you or to everybody about my support of data centers,
1:27:32
Speaker 1: I always start with zero tax breaks at all for
1:27:37
Speaker 1: a data center.
1:27:38
Speaker 9: Oh, that ain't happening.
1:27:39
Speaker 1: It ain't going to happen.
1:27:40
Speaker 5: It won't happen.
1:27:41
Speaker 3: Why not?
1:27:41
Speaker 15: Why not?
1:27:43
Speaker 9: They won't come here.
1:27:44
Speaker 18: They'll go somewhere else. They'll go to some other stupid
1:27:45
Speaker 18: state that's going to do that for them.
1:27:48
Speaker 9: But it shouldn't be here in Ohio.
1:27:51
Speaker 1: Well, in Ohio, I go back to say this. So
1:27:53
Speaker 1: tell me where I'm wrong in this. Ohio is a
1:27:55
Speaker 1: great spot to locate. Everything I've read because of our
1:27:59
Speaker 1: weather is perfect for data centers. It's not too hot
1:28:03
Speaker 1: like Arizona and Florida and that kind of stuff. And
1:28:06
Speaker 1: you need specific locations because of the transmission lines that
1:28:09
Speaker 1: are necessary for them. So it's not like you can
1:28:12
Speaker 1: go anywhere. You need the infrastructure. You need the weather.
1:28:16
Speaker 1: We don't have to do anything for these people. You
1:28:18
Speaker 1: want to build a data center here? Here it is.
1:28:22
Speaker 1: We'll sell you all the materials that employ our construction
1:28:25
Speaker 1: people while it's being built. And you will have maintenance
1:28:30
Speaker 1: on it, a lot of air conditioning and what have you.
1:28:33
Speaker 1: So it will have outside jobs for a lot of
1:28:36
Speaker 1: people to maintain the facility. And granted, there won't be
1:28:39
Speaker 1: a lot of workers at the facility because it's technology.
1:28:43
Speaker 1: You don't need a lot of workers there. But if
1:28:47
Speaker 1: you would go along with what I've said, you would
1:28:50
Speaker 1: have tax dollars coming in without a lot of wear
1:28:54
Speaker 1: and tear on your roads and what have you. And
1:28:56
Speaker 1: those tax dollars would offset your property taxes. Because a
1:29:00
Speaker 1: fixed levy cost would be shifted to that huge facility
1:29:04
Speaker 1: in the community.
1:29:05
Speaker 18: Except it won't be, is what I'm trying to say.
1:29:07
Speaker 9: In other arrangements, from what I've read, that doesn't happen.
1:29:11
Speaker 9: So if that's going to happen, now all of a
1:29:13
Speaker 9: sudden Ohio changes its stance, then maybe I would agree.
1:29:17
Speaker 9: But that's not what Ohio.
1:29:18
Speaker 1: Has been doing. Well, that's the only way I would
1:29:22
Speaker 1: agree to a data center.
1:29:24
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I can understand your point from that perspective.
1:29:28
Speaker 6: But let me..
1:29:29
Speaker 1: But I do say this. They're coming, and let's say
1:29:33
Speaker 1: they'll locate somewhere else.
1:29:36
Speaker 18: Nebraska sounds good to me.
1:29:37
Speaker 30: No, no, no.
1:29:38
Speaker 1: In this general region, statewide region, which is part of
1:29:41
Speaker 1: your electrical grid.
1:29:43
Speaker 9: Sir, I understand that.
1:29:45
Speaker 1: So you get the expenses of it without any of
1:29:48
Speaker 1: the benefits of it from your construction people.
1:29:51
Speaker 18: That's a very good point.
1:29:52
Speaker 9: That is a good point.
1:29:53
Speaker 18: That is a valid point.
1:29:55
Speaker 1: All right, so you're getting that. My concern is, once again,
1:30:00
Speaker 1: they have to provide their own power source. They can't
1:30:03
Speaker 1: keep stressing our grid. for sucking up all of this power.
1:30:11
Speaker 1: I mean, I am deeply troubled that the federal government
1:30:13
Speaker 1: thinks they should have the say-so over any local government.
1:30:16
Speaker 1: I'm dead set against any state saying there would be
1:30:20
Speaker 1: tax abatements or any of this stuff. I'm just against
1:30:24
Speaker 1: all of it. I do think, though, AI, when people
1:30:28
Speaker 1: do Google searches and what have you, they will start
1:30:31
Speaker 1: using it. It's the coming frontier. Even for you, it's
1:30:35
Speaker 1: the coming frontier.
1:30:37
Speaker 9: Well, that's what Plushnick's problem with it is, is that
1:30:41
Speaker 9: he opposes anybody who's going to try to take away
1:30:47
Speaker 9: the state or local city control.
1:30:52
Speaker 1: Right.
1:30:52
Speaker 18: Yeah, that's his main issue.
1:30:57
Speaker 15: Yeah.
1:30:57
Speaker 9: And they've got all these NDAs that are backdoor. I mean,
1:31:02
Speaker 9: you know, I've listened to some of those reels that
1:31:05
Speaker 9: the people are doing, and it just doesn't sound..
1:31:07
Speaker 6: I don't know.
1:31:09
Speaker 9: But I have something very troubling that came to me
1:31:12
Speaker 9: over the weekend.
1:31:13
Speaker 1: It's off the data.
1:31:15
Speaker 18: It's off the data center.
1:31:16
Speaker 1: All right, but before you get to that, I want
1:31:20
Speaker 1: to find a community... I was reading this article, and
1:31:25
Speaker 1: I can't remember where it was, where the data center,
1:31:28
Speaker 1: the power company has said to this community, we won't
1:31:32
Speaker 1: be able to provide you with any power in a
1:31:34
Speaker 1: year and a half to the community, the residents, because
1:31:39
Speaker 1: it's all going to go to this data center. And basically,
1:31:43
Speaker 1: you're not going to have any power.
1:31:46
Speaker 15: Yeah.
1:31:48
Speaker 1: Sounds like I'm making it up, right? But it was
1:31:49
Speaker 1: an actual news story that said they have notified you
1:31:52
Speaker 1: have a year and a half to figure out what
1:31:54
Speaker 1: you're going to have to do because the system will
1:31:58
Speaker 1: just be there to provide for these data centers. There's
1:32:01
Speaker 1: a ton of them, incidentally, down by Columbus already, as
1:32:04
Speaker 1: you well know, in Columbus. A lot of them in
1:32:06
Speaker 1: Virginia because of the federal government's. So they're popping up
1:32:10
Speaker 1: all over. So I'm going to try to find out
1:32:13
Speaker 1: where that place was that I was reading.
1:32:14
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's troubling.
1:32:15
Speaker 24: Yeah.
1:32:16
Speaker 7: That's troubling.
1:32:17
Speaker 1: Now, what else bothers you since it's been a while
1:32:20
Speaker 1: since I've heard from you?
1:32:22
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I walked into some very disturbing news to me,
1:32:26
Speaker 9: and I can't tell you where, but I was in
1:32:27
Speaker 9: Mahoning County. Well, I'll tell you, I was in Boardman.
1:32:30
Speaker 9: I was talking to some folks, and they said..
1:32:35
Speaker 16: Oh, yeah, you know, that.
1:32:36
Speaker 9: Lady that lives right over there in a $ 300, 000 condo. Oh,
1:32:42
Speaker 9: she just had a cleaning lady come, and they cleaned her.
1:32:45
Speaker 8: House for her.
1:32:45
Speaker 9: I said, who's that lady? I'm looking at her $ 300, 000 condo,
1:32:51
Speaker 9: which is far higher than the average home in Mahoning County.
1:32:55
Speaker 1: All right, so you've got a $ 300, 000 condo and a
1:32:57
Speaker 1: cleaning lady. Okay, so what?
1:33:00
Speaker 9: Well, that's where your senior levy money went. They sent
1:33:04
Speaker 9: somebody to clean her home for her. Now, that's wonderful.
1:33:07
Speaker 9: You can't hate the player.
1:33:09
Speaker 18: You got to hate the game.
1:33:11
Speaker 9: Because if I was her, I would have taken that
1:33:13
Speaker 9: benefit too for free. But the day that we start paying,
1:33:17
Speaker 9: and I said this to you weeks ago, and I
1:33:19
Speaker 9: think Alec, you know, he's very smart. He's echoing a
1:33:23
Speaker 9: lot of the things that I'm saying. We are becoming
1:33:27
Speaker 9: socialist and people need to heed the warning. The day
1:33:32
Speaker 9: that my home is levied to provide a woman sitting
1:33:35
Speaker 9: in a $ 300, 000 home who walks with two feet, who's
1:33:40
Speaker 9: not in a wheelchair, that I got to pay for
1:33:43
Speaker 9: her house, I'm a little hopped up, Ron.
1:33:47
Speaker 1: I'm a little popped up. Now, where did I see that?
1:33:51
Speaker 1: I read that.
1:33:51
Speaker 18: I posted it all day today.
1:33:53
Speaker 9: So I don't know if you saw it. You're on Facebook.
1:33:56
Speaker 9: I did a reel on it on TikTok as well.
1:33:58
Speaker 30: All right.
1:33:58
Speaker 9: I am so tired.
1:34:00
Speaker 1: Now, pause for a second. All right. Pause for a second,
1:34:02
Speaker 1: and then I'll let you get back to that. All right?
1:34:04
Speaker 1: I found what I was looking for. AI overview, incidentally.
1:34:08
Speaker 1: Listen to this. The area in question is Lake Tahoe region,
1:34:13
Speaker 1: spanning the California-Nevada border. The local power supplier, Envy Energy.
1:34:18
Speaker 1: notified the region that it will stop supplying power in
1:34:22
Speaker 1: order to divert electricity to massive new AI and tech
1:34:26
Speaker 1: data centers being built east of Reno. This decision impacts
1:34:31
Speaker 1: nearly 60,000 residents and businesses who have been left scrabbling
1:34:36
Speaker 1: to find a new electrical provider before the impending cutoff.
1:34:41
Speaker 1: Wait a second.
1:34:42
Speaker 9: Don't you think we're moving a little too fast, Ben?
1:34:45
Speaker 9: Moving a little too fast. We're creating more problems than
1:34:49
Speaker 9: we're solving right now.
1:34:52
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, can you imagine that? Can you imagine? No!
1:34:55
Speaker 9: Because it's not in California.
1:34:57
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if you live in this Lake Tahoe
1:34:59
Speaker 1: region and you're notified that, hey, we're not going to,
1:35:02
Speaker 1: your energy supplier, the local power supplier, says we're not
1:35:06
Speaker 1: going to supply any electricity to the 50,000 residents and businesses.
1:35:11
Speaker 1: All of our power is going to the data centers.
1:35:14
Speaker 1: So basically, you've got to figure it out. You've got
1:35:16
Speaker 1: a year and a half. to figure this out. When
1:35:20
Speaker 1: I heard this story, I thought, are you kidding me?
1:35:23
Speaker 1: And I'm just looking for more stuff about it. It's
1:35:29
Speaker 1: hard to imagine, isn't it, that that's the case?
1:35:32
Speaker 9: It's absolutely hard to imagine, but that's why I'm saying
1:35:35
Speaker 9: we're moving too fast. We're moving too fast. If our
1:35:38
Speaker 9: electrical system can't handle this, then we're moving too fast,
1:35:42
Speaker 9: and people need to simmer down.
1:35:45
Speaker 1: Calm down.
1:35:46
Speaker 9: Making rush decisions too fast. Now, that community, ultimately, I
1:35:50
Speaker 9: think it's going to be interesting to see what do
1:35:52
Speaker 9: they do.
1:35:53
Speaker 1: Northern Nevada has become one of the fastest-growing data center
1:35:56
Speaker 1: corridors in the country. Google, Apple, and Microsoft have either
1:36:01
Speaker 1: built or are planning facilities around the Tahoe-Reno Industrial Center
1:36:05
Speaker 1: east of Reno. The Desert Research Institute, using data from
1:36:09
Speaker 1: NV Energy 2024, Integrated Resource Plan found that the 12
1:36:15
Speaker 1: data center projects located overwhelmingly in northern Nevada could drive
1:36:20
Speaker 1: 5,900 megawatts of new demand by 2033. At a regional
1:36:25
Speaker 1: business event last fall, NV Energy's Director of Business Development
1:36:30
Speaker 1: called the moment unprecedented, saying the company was eager to
1:36:33
Speaker 1: serve the new industrial load, but that it would not
1:36:36
Speaker 1: impact our existing customer base. But Liberty's 49,000 California customers
1:36:41
Speaker 1: may already be hearing bearing the cost. Liberty Utility generates
1:36:46
Speaker 1: about 25% of its power from solar facilities it owns
1:36:50
Speaker 1: in Nevada. The other 75% comes from Envy Energy. And
1:36:54
Speaker 1: that source will no longer be supplied to the region
1:36:58
Speaker 1: by this time next year. It's like we don't exist,
1:37:02
Speaker 1: Daniels says. told Fortune. Hughes is a North Lake Tahoe
1:37:07
Speaker 1: resident CEO of the non-profit Tahoe Spark and supervisor within
1:37:13
Speaker 1: the California Energy Commission. So can you imagine being told this? Hey,
1:37:18
Speaker 1: from your electrical supplier?
1:37:19
Speaker 9: Now somebody's got to come up with a solution.
1:37:21
Speaker 1: What are they going to do?
1:37:24
Speaker 16: Yes.
1:37:25
Speaker 1: The CPUC approves Liberty's rates and procurement requests, but it
1:37:29
Speaker 1: cannot order Envy Energy to keep selling wholesale power or
1:37:33
Speaker 1: dictate how Nevada plans for data centers. That falls to
1:37:37
Speaker 1: the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission. It's unbelievable when you read this.
1:37:42
Speaker 1: I mean, when you read this, at first I thought,
1:37:46
Speaker 1: am I hearing this right? You're telling me that..
1:37:48
Speaker 9: Well, think about it. They just put regulators on all
1:37:51
Speaker 9: of our homes, didn't they? I mean, most of our
1:37:53
Speaker 9: homes now have these boxes on the outside.
1:37:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're telling me... You're telling these people, 60,000
1:38:00
Speaker 1: people in a year and a half, you better figure
1:38:03
Speaker 1: out what to do because all the power is going
1:38:04
Speaker 1: to go to these data centers. It's unbelievable. Yeah.
1:38:09
Speaker 9: It's a problem. We're moving too fast. They need to
1:38:11
Speaker 9: slow down.
1:38:12
Speaker 1: All right. So now, and it's spiking the demand for
1:38:16
Speaker 1: electricity and the rates are going up for all of
1:38:19
Speaker 1: us at our homes and everything.
1:38:20
Speaker 34: Right.
1:38:21
Speaker 1: It's going to be so you can't afford to have
1:38:22
Speaker 1: your air conditioning on. Now, you're talking about this senior
1:38:25
Speaker 1: levy that's providing cleaning services. for old people in a
1:38:32
Speaker 1: $ 300, 000 condo.
1:38:33
Speaker 18: Because how do you pay for some $ 300, 000 ladies' cleaning service?
1:38:37
Speaker 9: Well, what does it say?
1:38:40
Speaker 1: Is it income-based at all, or is it just..
1:38:42
Speaker 9: Well, no, that's the problem with this stupid levy. The
1:38:45
Speaker 9: stupid levy actually is the opposite. It's actually people who
1:38:50
Speaker 9: do not fall into the other social welfare programs. So
1:38:55
Speaker 9: you make too much money to qualify for the other
1:38:58
Speaker 9: state supplements. You make too much money to qualify for
1:39:03
Speaker 9: other programs. So you have to make too much money
1:39:06
Speaker 9: to qualify for this. Now, tell that to the man
1:39:10
Speaker 9: who busted his... But for 30 years and decided not
1:39:15
Speaker 9: to buy the $ 300, 000 condo, decided I'm.
1:39:17
Speaker 18: Going to stay in my $ 100, 000 home.
1:39:19
Speaker 9: All right, sit tight for a minute. And I'm going
1:39:22
Speaker 9: to pay my own cleaning lady.
1:39:24
Speaker 1: Sit tight. Hang in there. The Boss Lady, NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
1:39:28
Speaker 1: And Ron Furb, back in a minute. Youngstown's News, Weather,
1:39:32
Speaker 1: and Talk Station, 570 WKBN. 525 NewsRadio, 570 WKBN. I mean,
1:39:39
Speaker 1: when they were proposing the senior levy when it first
1:39:42
Speaker 1: came on the ballot, I was opposed to it. I
1:39:46
Speaker 1: was on the air totally and completely opposed to it.
1:39:50
Speaker 1: And I didn't support it at all because we're turning
1:39:54
Speaker 1: into socialists here. But the community, for whatever God-known reason,
1:40:00
Speaker 1: voted for it. It's a property tax. They voted for
1:40:03
Speaker 1: this senior levy. And then once they got all this money,
1:40:06
Speaker 1: they start all these handout programs that are going on
1:40:10
Speaker 1: for senior citizens. Like, apparently, you're no longer responsible for yourself.
1:40:16
Speaker 1: Personal responsibility is by the wayside. You know, if you
1:40:18
Speaker 1: didn't save any money or whatever because you're old, well,
1:40:22
Speaker 1: we'll come cut your grass for free because you're old.
1:40:25
Speaker 1: We'll come clean your house for free. This is insanity.
1:40:28
Speaker 1: The man who lives in a.
1:40:29
Speaker 9: $ 100, 000 home that decided not to upgrade, he's now paying
1:40:34
Speaker 9: for the woman who lives in the $ 300, 000 home. It's
1:40:39
Speaker 9: so dumb and twisted. It's unbelievable. It's uneducated voters who
1:40:43
Speaker 9: don't understand. And it's these commissioners who, they come to
1:40:49
Speaker 9: it and say, hey, we want to put on a
1:40:50
Speaker 9: senior levy. They're already getting money funded from the state.
1:40:54
Speaker 9: And the commissioners, oh, that sounds like a great idea.
1:40:57
Speaker 9: Let's put it on the ballot. And then nobody oversees
1:41:02
Speaker 9: the program and how the money is being spent. If
1:41:06
Speaker 9: I was a commissioner, I would say, what do you
1:41:08
Speaker 9: plan to do with this money, sir? You want millions
1:41:11
Speaker 9: of dollars from the taxpayer. You want to levy their homes.
1:41:15
Speaker 9: What are you going to do with the money?
1:41:18
Speaker 1: Why is it my responsibility?
1:41:20
Speaker 18: I'm going to end up at a commissioner's meeting.
1:41:23
Speaker 1: Really?
1:41:23
Speaker 9: I'm going to end up on the news. Oh, I'm
1:41:25
Speaker 9: going to go to a commissioner's meeting. I'm getting so
1:41:27
Speaker 9: sick and tired. I want oversight of these nonprofits. I
1:41:31
Speaker 9: want somebody. Pick a different one because they don't have to.
1:41:37
Speaker 1: Listen, you're better off talking about it here because you
1:41:40
Speaker 1: might as well go down. You think Carol Rigetti's going
1:41:43
Speaker 1: to listen and actually give a damn?
1:41:45
Speaker 9: I'm going to make her look like a fool, and
1:41:47
Speaker 9: I'm going to tell Stan Boney you might want to
1:41:48
Speaker 9: come to the meeting because I'm going to light him
1:41:50
Speaker 9: up today. I'll be there.
1:41:53
Speaker 35: I'm down.
1:41:54
Speaker 9: I'm going to be on Channel 21. Because they need
1:41:57
Speaker 9: to start over. Where's the oversight? And then you get
1:42:01
Speaker 9: the forever levies, which the senior levy, thankfully, is not
1:42:04
Speaker 9: a forever tax.
1:42:06
Speaker 8: And the voters, they don't.
1:42:09
Speaker 9: Understand what's happening. They think, oh, the seniors, we've got
1:42:12
Speaker 9: to support the seniors.
1:42:13
Speaker 18: You know, and here's the funny thing.
1:42:15
Speaker 9: That lady in that $ 300, 000 condo, okay? She paid for
1:42:20
Speaker 9: that service anyways out of her property tax. And you
1:42:22
Speaker 9: have to be current on your property taxes to receive it.
1:42:24
Speaker 9: So you don't have to be destitute. You don't have
1:42:26
Speaker 9: to be poor. You can't qualify for other programs, which
1:42:29
Speaker 9: means you're doing okay in terms of the state. And
1:42:33
Speaker 9: you get these benefits. And you're levying people's homes. It's sickening.
1:42:38
Speaker 18: And they're making up these rules.
1:42:40
Speaker 9: And the rules are very, like, arbitrary. Like, where's the income?
1:42:44
Speaker 9: Is there an income cap?
1:42:47
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter when it should not be the responsibility
1:42:51
Speaker 1: of the property tax owner to pay to have anybody
1:42:54
Speaker 1: clean your house, period. Pick up after yourself. I mean,
1:42:59
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. It's why your property taxes. So I
1:43:03
Speaker 1: go back to say it again. It is a property
1:43:06
Speaker 1: tax levy that you pay for the library system around here.
1:43:09
Speaker 1: I'll say it for the hundredth time, maybe the thousandth time.
1:43:13
Speaker 1: The biggest problem your public library has in this community
1:43:16
Speaker 1: is they have so much money coming in. Spending it
1:43:18
Speaker 1: every year is their biggest concern. How do we spend
1:43:20
Speaker 1: all of this? So they'd be more than happy to
1:43:23
Speaker 1: build a new library in Poland or build a new
1:43:25
Speaker 1: one in Struthers because they've got to figure out how
1:43:28
Speaker 1: do we spend all of this money that's coming in
1:43:30
Speaker 1: every year with the property taxes. All of you people
1:43:33
Speaker 1: that say, I love my library, have been duped over
1:43:36
Speaker 1: what you're paying for. Stand by. Just hang in there.
1:43:39
Speaker 1: I'll be right back. News Radio 570 WKVN. All right,
1:43:45
Speaker 1: Ron Verbe, back to it. Now, Ron Verbe.
1:43:48
Speaker 7: Yes.
1:43:49
Speaker 1: On News Radio 570 WKVN. From the kingdom of Mahoning,
1:43:54
Speaker 1: I am, I am at 534 News Radio 570 WKVN.
1:43:58
Speaker 1: So I go back to say all that kind of stuff. Oh,
1:44:01
Speaker 1: I love my library and all that kind of stuff. Well,
1:44:03
Speaker 1: you don't know how the money's being spent. They got
1:44:05
Speaker 1: all this money in reserve. This idea that all these
1:44:08
Speaker 1: entities got to have bank accounts of your tax dollars
1:44:12
Speaker 1: making interest off of it is insanity. That means they're
1:44:15
Speaker 1: taking too much of your money in the first place,
1:44:18
Speaker 1: and they have all this money in a bank account
1:44:21
Speaker 1: earning interest. that you don't have because they're taking so much.
1:44:24
Speaker 1: There is zero monitoring of that. So everybody like, I
1:44:28
Speaker 1: go to the library, I love the library or whatever,
1:44:30
Speaker 1: have no clue.
1:44:31
Speaker 9: No one knows.
1:44:32
Speaker 1: Absolutely no.
1:44:32
Speaker 9: How many people are going to come in?
1:44:34
Speaker 1: No one knows. And like I've said a million times,
1:44:36
Speaker 1: I say this to all of you time and time again, WRTA,
1:44:40
Speaker 1: you voted for a quarter percent forever sales tax for WRTA.
1:44:45
Speaker 1: It generates $ 10 million a year every year for WRTA.
1:44:51
Speaker 1: Their biggest problem with WRTA is how do we spend
1:44:54
Speaker 1: all this? Well, we'll build another garage. We'll buy some
1:44:57
Speaker 1: of these electric buses that are all expensive. They've got
1:45:00
Speaker 1: to figure out every year how to get rid of
1:45:03
Speaker 1: $ 10 million. This is one of the biggest problems they
1:45:06
Speaker 1: have is how do we spend all of this money?
1:45:09
Speaker 1: And I'll sit here until I'm blue in the face
1:45:10
Speaker 1: and tell you that's it with the sales tax of WRTA.
1:45:13
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you that the library has the same
1:45:15
Speaker 1: damn problem. This is all going on. When you have
1:45:20
Speaker 1: to bite the bullet and make sacrifices with these high
1:45:22
Speaker 1: property taxes that you're paying and the lack of affordability
1:45:28
Speaker 1: for young people to be able to afford a house
1:45:30
Speaker 1: or old people to stay in a house because the
1:45:33
Speaker 1: insanity with these property taxes and the senior levy is
1:45:37
Speaker 1: a shining example of another socialistic handout program that has
1:45:42
Speaker 1: to come up with ways to get rid of this
1:45:45
Speaker 1: money forever. for senior citizens it's not my responsibility as
1:45:50
Speaker 1: a taxpayer to clean your damn house or any of
1:45:53
Speaker 1: this other nonsense or shovel.
1:45:54
Speaker 9: Your snow yeah or any.
1:45:56
Speaker 1: Of it right and and when gino called that one
1:45:59
Speaker 1: day when i was talking about property taxes what did
1:46:02
Speaker 1: he say well we got to take care of our
1:46:03
Speaker 1: seniors no that isn't you know you have a personal
1:46:07
Speaker 1: responsibility everybody's problems aren't my problems nor should they be
1:46:11
Speaker 1: the taxpayer problem.
1:46:13
Speaker 9: And it's It's getting worse and worse by the minute.
1:46:16
Speaker 9: I heard Alex said something else the other day, not
1:46:18
Speaker 9: property tax related, but I.
1:46:21
Speaker 18: Was listening while I was working and I was like,
1:46:23
Speaker 18: you know what.
1:46:23
Speaker 9: That's pretty spot on. Because what did I say? Our
1:46:27
Speaker 9: problem is, is the middle class. And our problem is,
1:46:29
Speaker 9: is the state of Ohio, you either work for the
1:46:32
Speaker 9: state or you're receiving state benefits. Because I think it's 50%
1:46:36
Speaker 9: of the state's budget is Medicaid. Okay, so you're not
1:46:41
Speaker 9: going to vote. That's why in Mahoning County, in our area,
1:46:45
Speaker 9: which is a poorer area, continues to pass these levies.
1:46:49
Speaker 9: But you see across the state, they're not doing that.
1:46:52
Speaker 9: But what he said was brilliant when he said that
1:46:55
Speaker 9: if all the fraud was caught, right, and you can
1:46:57
Speaker 9: take this to, if we stopped expanding all this government,
1:47:01
Speaker 9: because that's all we do is expand government and social
1:47:03
Speaker 9: welfare programs, our economy would collapse. Because they would have
1:47:09
Speaker 9: no jobs, because for all the fraud, you still have
1:47:11
Speaker 9: to add a job. So for every $ 1, 000, they manage
1:47:16
Speaker 9: by head count, by revenue count. That's how you add jobs, right?
1:47:20
Speaker 9: You have run at a ratio. One manager to every
1:47:24
Speaker 9: five supervisors, one supervisor to every hundred employees. That's exactly
1:47:28
Speaker 9: how they do it in the state. If you eliminate
1:47:30
Speaker 9: all the fraud, all the spending, all the crap, and
1:47:34
Speaker 9: Our economy, we have built a system that relies upon
1:47:38
Speaker 9: the system. And it's not getting better.
1:47:41
Speaker 7: It's getting worse.
1:47:42
Speaker 9: I want somebody to do something about it.
1:47:46
Speaker 1: Right, right. All right. Before I let you go, because
1:47:52
Speaker 1: you're a big executive, have you followed this scandal at J.P.
1:47:58
Speaker 16: Morgan?
1:47:59
Speaker 9: I actually have not.
1:48:02
Speaker 1: You've got to read this.
1:48:03
Speaker 9: I'll check into it today.
1:48:07
Speaker 1: This is nationally, all right? You will laugh. It's called J.P.
1:48:14
Speaker 1: Morgan's Sex Slave Case.
1:48:16
Speaker 15: Oh, my God.
1:48:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to read it. This woman's name, let
1:48:21
Speaker 1: me give you her name, is..
1:48:23
Speaker 24: I.
1:48:25
Speaker 1: Got to find her name.
1:48:27
Speaker 9: He has a sex slave?
1:48:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to see this. You got to read this.
1:48:31
Speaker 1: You will... Oh, my God.
1:48:34
Speaker 15: Her name is..
1:48:39
Speaker 1: The woman in question is L-O-R-N-A, and her last name
1:48:44
Speaker 1: is H-A-J-D-I-N-I. And just Google that and read that story.
1:48:55
Speaker 1: I'll Google it. And they offer this guy $ 20 million,
1:48:59
Speaker 1: and he turned it down.
1:49:00
Speaker 4: $ 20 million.
1:49:04
Speaker 18: Well, he's got a lot of money then.
1:49:05
Speaker 1: No, he turned it down. I guess he wants more.
1:49:08
Speaker 1: You've got to read this case.
1:49:10
Speaker 9: All right.
1:49:10
Speaker 18: I've got to read the article.
1:49:13
Speaker 1: And then you've got to comment on it tomorrow. All right.
1:49:18
Speaker 1: You'll say, it's unbelievable.
1:49:20
Speaker 17: Really?
1:49:22
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. All right. See you.
1:49:24
Speaker 9: You know what? One more thing.
1:49:26
Speaker 1: Oh, for crying out loud. What is it now?
1:49:28
Speaker 9: Real quick about the fraud in Ohio. And when he
1:49:32
Speaker 9: said this, it caught me. He's my favorite. He's my favorite.
1:49:35
Speaker 18: I mean, I like a lot of the callers, but
1:49:36
Speaker 18: he's my favorite.
1:49:38
Speaker 9: And he's my favorite. I don't know what it is
1:49:39
Speaker 9: about him. I like that kid. He said, and I
1:49:45
Speaker 9: even talked about this with everybody. After he said it,
1:49:47
Speaker 9: I was like, yeah, no kidding. But sometimes, you know,
1:49:49
Speaker 9: common sense isn't so common. So when somebody says it,
1:49:52
Speaker 9: you're like, oh, my God, yeah, of course. These Somalis
1:49:55
Speaker 9: didn't come to Ohio and do all this fraud without help.
1:49:58
Speaker 9: You don't pack it up. You know, I've been in
1:50:01
Speaker 9: other countries. You couldn't walk into another country, learn their system,
1:50:05
Speaker 9: learn how to cheat, most importantly, on your own.
1:50:08
Speaker 27: You couldn't do it.
1:50:10
Speaker 9: Do you know how hard that would be to do
1:50:11
Speaker 9: to go undetected for that long and defraud us that bad?
1:50:15
Speaker 18: And I thought that was brilliant and should be commented
1:50:19
Speaker 18: on again.
1:50:19
Speaker 9: He's a good caller.
1:50:21
Speaker 1: All right. Are you done?
1:50:23
Speaker 9: I'm done rambling for today. I'm all hopped up, Ron.
1:50:26
Speaker 1: All right. See you. Bye.
1:50:28
Speaker 6: Bye.
1:50:28
Speaker 1: You're on the air.
1:50:30
Speaker 9: Hey, Ron.
1:50:32
Speaker 1: Bubba Ganoush.
1:50:33
Speaker 8: Can I ask you something?
1:50:35
Speaker 1: Bubba Ganoush, you know I'm always here for you.
1:50:37
Speaker 8: All right. Let me ask you something.
1:50:41
Speaker 20: Why do you bitch about taxes and stuff, and then
1:50:44
Speaker 20: you voted all the way.
1:50:45
Speaker 8: Up against it?
1:50:47
Speaker 1: Well, no, I didn't. I didn't vote for the senior levy.
1:50:50
Speaker 1: I did not vote for the sales tax for WRTA.
1:50:55
Speaker 1: There's many levies that I do not vote for. Did
1:50:59
Speaker 1: I vote in favor of the quarter percent for Pat
1:51:02
Speaker 1: Giannetti's road tax? Absolutely I did.
1:51:05
Speaker 8: Also, John Smith.
1:51:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are. There's never been more roads fixed, the
1:51:11
Speaker 1: road miles ever, in this county in the quality of
1:51:14
Speaker 1: work that Pat Giannetti's doing. So the road miles that
1:51:17
Speaker 1: he's doing throughout Mahoning County and the benefits that your
1:51:21
Speaker 1: townships and cities get from that money as well, It's astronomical.
1:51:25
Speaker 1: I voted for it. I'd vote for it again tomorrow.
1:51:27
Speaker 1: It's a quarter percent sales tax that goes to the
1:51:30
Speaker 1: county engineer for our roads. I also voted for the
1:51:34
Speaker 1: renewals for my township and the road taxes there to
1:51:38
Speaker 1: keep my roads. Here's the thing. I drive on these
1:51:41
Speaker 1: roads regularly. They need to be maintained. I don't need
1:51:45
Speaker 1: these giant potholes. Pat Gennetti's doing a great job when
1:51:48
Speaker 1: it comes to the county, and the township needs money
1:51:51
Speaker 1: to maintain the roads as well. It's very expensive with
1:51:53
Speaker 1: the cost of asphalt. So it was a renewal in
1:51:56
Speaker 1: the case of the township, two renewals where I live,
1:52:00
Speaker 1: and a renewal on a quarter percent. I support road taxes.
1:52:04
Speaker 1: There's some taxes that I don't think, whether you like
1:52:08
Speaker 1: it or not, you need police, you need fire. and
1:52:11
Speaker 1: you need an ambulance to show up. And I'll support
1:52:16
Speaker 1: that because you've got to have those services, and they
1:52:18
Speaker 1: are becoming more costly. And so I vote for those
1:52:22
Speaker 1: renewals or some additional, and we'll take that hit because
1:52:27
Speaker 1: you need those particular services. I do not, as I've said,
1:52:32
Speaker 1: support all the rest of this nonsense. But if you
1:52:36
Speaker 1: say all taxes are bad, Well, I'm not a fan
1:52:39
Speaker 1: of taxes, but you do get something for what you're
1:52:42
Speaker 1: paying and services that come from them. So some of them,
1:52:47
Speaker 1: I'm an adult. I realize I have to pay for
1:52:50
Speaker 1: those services. I need somebody to plow my streets. I
1:52:52
Speaker 1: need a road department.
1:52:54
Speaker 20: Hey, does that include city of Youngstown?
1:52:59
Speaker 1: Does what include?
1:53:00
Speaker 9: I'm in Mahoney County.
1:53:03
Speaker 35: Does that include? Yes.
1:53:07
Speaker 1: I don't know if they get anything. It might be
1:53:09
Speaker 1: different for the city. I'm not sure. It included the
1:53:12
Speaker 1: townships getting money from that quarter percent sales tax. If
1:53:17
Speaker 1: you know anything about the county, you've never seen more
1:53:19
Speaker 1: roads get done. Roads that hadn't been done in 30
1:53:22
Speaker 1: years are getting the attention, and not a dime of
1:53:25
Speaker 1: it goes to raises or any of this kind of stuff.
1:53:27
Speaker 1: It goes to bridges, culverts, and roads, and it's all necessary.
1:53:33
Speaker 1: The Monning County Engineers budget had been the same for decades,
1:53:37
Speaker 1: and that's why we couldn't get enough done, and we
1:53:40
Speaker 1: had roads that were deteriorating. So I schooled you on that,
1:53:44
Speaker 1: Bubba Ganoush.
1:53:45
Speaker 20: Well, I have to find out if City Youngstown is
1:53:49
Speaker 20: part of Mahoning County.
1:53:50
Speaker 1: It is part of Mahoning County, obviously.
1:53:54
Speaker 16: Well, I live in.
1:53:56
Speaker 20: Mill Creek Park. I mean, outside, you know, the perimeter.
1:54:01
Speaker 1: I thought you were sleeping on a bench in the
1:54:03
Speaker 1: park at night.
1:54:04
Speaker 8: Yeah, these roads are bad. Is that what you're going
1:54:06
Speaker 8: to think about me?
1:54:07
Speaker 1: All right, well, you said you live in Mill Creek Park.
1:54:10
Speaker 8: This is not public news.
1:54:12
Speaker 17: This is Diamond Day, by the way.
1:54:13
Speaker 1: I don't know a Diamond, Dave. I just know a
1:54:15
Speaker 1: Bubba Ganoush.
1:54:16
Speaker 3: Well..
1:54:17
Speaker 1: I know Bubba Ganoush and his cousin, Kibby.
1:54:25
Speaker 8: That's a good one.
1:54:27
Speaker 1: Thank you.
1:54:28
Speaker 17: By the way..
1:54:29
Speaker 1: I gotta go.
1:54:30
Speaker 16: No.
1:54:31
Speaker 8: The Guardians are starting to hit now.
1:54:33
Speaker 9: Did you see that?
1:54:34
Speaker 11: Yes.
1:54:35
Speaker 1: They won last night big. Big.
1:54:38
Speaker 8: By the way, the Pistons..
1:54:41
Speaker 3: They just gave up.
1:54:42
Speaker 9: They gave up.
1:54:43
Speaker 17: Before the half.
1:54:44
Speaker 1: What a great... Hey, a victory's a victory. I'll take
1:54:46
Speaker 1: it however they get it. It's now on to the
1:54:48
Speaker 1: next round.
1:54:49
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I know, but that's a great team.
1:54:52
Speaker 9: They were number one in the pick.
1:54:55
Speaker 3: All right.
1:54:56
Speaker 1: Sayonara. I've got to move along. You're on air.
1:54:59
Speaker 4: Good evening, Ron. How are you?
1:55:00
Speaker 1: It's G2 with... I'm doing well. Thank you, G2. So,
1:55:08
Speaker 1: what is the general..
1:55:10
Speaker 8: Thinking around this Massey versus Israel fight.
1:55:15
Speaker 1: Well, you give me the insight on that. Tomorrow's a
1:55:18
Speaker 1: big day on that.
1:55:20
Speaker 8: Tomorrow's the big day. They deployed Hegseth today to go
1:55:23
Speaker 8: down to fight against Massey. And it's interesting. I'm seeing
1:55:28
Speaker 8: very clear delineations of attitude. If you're a Fox boomer,
1:55:33
Speaker 8: you hate Thomas Massey. He's a grandstander. He's a bad guy.
1:55:37
Speaker 8: He's got to be eliminated. Now, The thing is, if
1:55:41
Speaker 8: you look at his voting record, it's nearly perfect. And
1:55:44
Speaker 8: yet they say he voted against all these things. Well,
1:55:47
Speaker 8: that's a little deceptive. But he did definitely say he's
1:55:51
Speaker 8: not supportive of foreign aid.
1:55:54
Speaker 17: At all.
1:55:56
Speaker 8: Right, period. Not Israel specific, just foreign aid. And that
1:55:59
Speaker 8: set them off.
1:56:00
Speaker 1: Keep in mind, he said we're $ 40 trillion in debt.
1:56:04
Speaker 1: We can't afford foreign aid. And he's right.
1:56:07
Speaker 8: He's right, but Israel doesn't care. And then he said,
1:56:13
Speaker 8: you know, that the Epstein file should be released. And
1:56:16
Speaker 8: we've talked about this extensively.
1:56:19
Speaker 1: Well, he's right about that, too.
1:56:21
Speaker 2: Yes.
1:56:22
Speaker 8: I'm saying I think, you know, Trump is an Epstein client.
1:56:25
Speaker 8: I don't think anybody legitimate is still hanging on to that.
1:56:28
Speaker 8: You've got to be deep in the nonsense to still
1:56:32
Speaker 8: hang on to that. But it's clearly the case now.
1:56:36
Speaker 8: that the premise we laid out, you know, back then,
1:56:38
Speaker 8: middle of last summer, is got to be right. He
1:56:41
Speaker 8: cut a deal, and in that deal, he got protection
1:56:44
Speaker 8: from his clients, or he gave that. I said, I
1:56:46
Speaker 8: don't know which side he was.
1:56:47
Speaker 19: On of it.
1:56:48
Speaker 8: And he got something in return for that. And I
1:56:51
Speaker 8: don't know what that was. And I said a thousand times,
1:56:55
Speaker 8: I hope it was a good deal. Now I'm wondering
1:56:57
Speaker 8: if there's anything he could have gotten for that that
1:56:59
Speaker 8: was worth it. You know, because..
1:57:02
Speaker 1: No, no, there isn't. There is not. When you ran
1:57:06
Speaker 1: on that, when you ran on that, and then miraculously
1:57:12
Speaker 1: in that one day after you met with Netanyahu, he
1:57:16
Speaker 1: changed that day where he said, are you still talking
1:57:19
Speaker 1: about that story? That's old news. Literally did a 180.
1:57:22
Speaker 9: Four years.
1:57:23
Speaker 6: What are you talking about?
1:57:24
Speaker 8: Yeah, this was where the fracture in the coalition that
1:57:29
Speaker 8: got Donald Trump elected first appeared. So I'm finding that
1:57:33
Speaker 8: some people walking into tomorrow saying, you've got to trust
1:57:35
Speaker 8: Donald Trump implicitly, whatever he wants he should get. And
1:57:40
Speaker 8: I say, well, wait a minute. There are really bad
1:57:42
Speaker 8: members of Congress in both Republican and Democrat sides who
1:57:46
Speaker 8: vote against us all the time. Why would we spend
1:57:49
Speaker 8: all this energy to get rid of this guy? And
1:57:51
Speaker 8: the answer is purely, well, where did the $ 25 million
1:57:53
Speaker 8: come from? And again, it's Paul Singer, Mary Madelson. So
1:57:56
Speaker 8: this is Israel. The guy who they picked to come
1:58:00
Speaker 8: in said the very first thing out of the gate
1:58:02
Speaker 8: was he already said he loves Israel. So if you've
1:58:05
Speaker 8: got a guy who will be a dedicated military industrial
1:58:08
Speaker 8: complex supporter, just as, you know, they've been... And they're
1:58:16
Speaker 8: going to try to replace the guy with a 100% rating,
1:58:20
Speaker 8: an A rating, one of the top ratings in Congress
1:58:22
Speaker 8: for the America First agenda. I think this is a
1:58:25
Speaker 8: mistake for Trump, and my premise is that if he wins,
1:58:31
Speaker 8: if Trump wins and beats Massey, if Israel beats Massey,
1:58:36
Speaker 8: then Trump loses. because he's going to fracture this coalition,
1:58:41
Speaker 8: and the fracture is going to become even more hard
1:58:43
Speaker 8: to heal.
1:58:44
Speaker 1: 6.30 here on NewsRadio, 570.30 Korean as they take on
1:59:04
Speaker 1: the Tigers tonight with G2. So I think we have
1:59:08
Speaker 1: a short broadcast tomorrow, 3 to 6, so you have
1:59:10
Speaker 1: to call me probably sometime during the 3 to 6
1:59:14
Speaker 1: time frame to talk about the outcome. Well, I don't
1:59:17
Speaker 1: know if we'll know the outcome until tomorrow.
1:59:21
Speaker 8: We might have a good indication because this is going
1:59:24
Speaker 8: to be Well, this is going to be interesting. The
1:59:27
Speaker 8: Israelis are now running a text campaign for people 62
1:59:30
Speaker 8: and older because they recognize that the older crowd that
1:59:34
Speaker 8: watches Fox is more likely to vote in their interest
1:59:38
Speaker 8: because they're just hammering them on Fox News all the time.
1:59:41
Speaker 8: And I think Hegsep went down there today, and what
1:59:43
Speaker 8: he did was counterproductive. But we'll see what happens in
1:59:48
Speaker 8: the outcome.
1:59:49
Speaker 35: Right.
1:59:50
Speaker 1: I mean, he's going after Bobart. I hope I'm saying
1:59:54
Speaker 1: that right. Bobart, yeah. Bobart. He's going after Massey. He
1:59:57
Speaker 1: went after Marjorie Taylor Greene. These are some of his
2:00:00
Speaker 1: most staunch supporters over the years. Tucker Carlson. I'm trying
2:00:05
Speaker 1: to think of Megan. I don't know if Megan Kelly
2:00:08
Speaker 1: falls for that. But he's going after all of these
2:00:11
Speaker 1: people in a vile way. I just shake my head.
2:00:17
Speaker 8: Yeah, the logic is questionable. So, well, I will try
2:00:20
Speaker 8: to connect with you tomorrow and we'll see what we
2:00:23
Speaker 8: know about the Massey outcome and whatever else is rearing
2:00:27
Speaker 8: its head.
2:00:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, they are spending huge sums of money,
2:00:32
Speaker 1: unbelievable money to try to defeat this guy who is
2:00:38
Speaker 1: really has a great voting record as far as his
2:00:41
Speaker 1: conservative vote.
2:00:44
Speaker 8: You cannot get anywhere near this kind of fundraising for
2:00:46
Speaker 8: a traditional conservative candidate who will vote and fight for
2:00:50
Speaker 8: the American agenda. You can't get it. This money doesn't
2:00:53
Speaker 8: exist for Republicans. It only exists in this case.
2:00:57
Speaker 1: Well, like that guy he knocked off, was it yesterday?
2:01:02
Speaker 1: Who was that guy that voted against the president on...
2:01:07
Speaker 1: to was it oh.
2:01:09
Speaker 8: That guy i mean yeah he was a bad guy
2:01:11
Speaker 8: uh yeah yeah um bill um yeah yeah yeah he
2:01:15
Speaker 8: i was great it was great to see that guy
2:01:17
Speaker 8: get defeated he was terrible right why aren't we taking
2:01:20
Speaker 8: out more of them instead of massey that's the critical
2:01:22
Speaker 8: question and the answer is that's just not what mary
2:01:26
Speaker 8: mabelson decided and she decided kentucky can't have thomas see I.
2:01:32
Speaker 1: Mean, I look at this, and I look at what
2:01:33
Speaker 1: he's doing to his supporters, to the people that backed him,
2:01:37
Speaker 1: and I just don't get it. None of this makes sense.
2:01:43
Speaker 1: And you've been spot on. You've been critical of him
2:01:46
Speaker 1: when he made that decision about Epstein, and you said
2:01:49
Speaker 1: that is a bad decision that he made when he
2:01:51
Speaker 1: was going down that road. You thought we should never
2:01:55
Speaker 1: have gotten this war in the first place. Now, how
2:01:57
Speaker 1: do we get out of it? And where do we
2:02:00
Speaker 1: go from here? Frankly, if I look at the G2
2:02:04
Speaker 1: track record, you've been spot on on this stuff. We'll
2:02:07
Speaker 1: have to talk more about it tomorrow. We're out of
2:02:09
Speaker 1: time today. So either Tuesday or Wednesday will be really
2:02:12
Speaker 1: interesting if we don't know the outcome of that race
2:02:14
Speaker 1: or have any indication at this time tomorrow. Hey, thank you, G2.
2:02:18
Speaker 1: Appreciate it.
2:02:18
Speaker 3: You're welcome.
2:02:19
Speaker 1: I look forward to his comments on all of that stuff. Hey,
2:02:22
Speaker 1: stay tuned. Guardians are coming up next. Appreciate you tuning in.
2:02:25
Speaker 1: Ron Verp from the Kingdom of Mahoning, NewsRadio 570. from
2:02:32
Speaker 1: ABC News. I'm Mike Dabusky.
2:02:35
Speaker 24: Police now say two gunmen are dead who allegedly stormed
2:02:38
Speaker 24: the Islamic Center of San Diego this afternoon. San Diego
2:02:42
Speaker 24: Police Chief Scott Wall says all the children who were
2:02:45
Speaker 24: on site were evacuated and are now safe, but there
2:02:48
Speaker 24: were adult casualties.
2:02:49
Speaker 36: Our hearts go out to the families that are in
2:02:53
Speaker 36: this moment being notified of what has happened to their
2:02:56
Speaker 36: loved ones. We have three confirmed adults that are deceased,
2:03:03
Speaker 36: at the Islamic Center.
2:03:04
Speaker 24: An investigation into the shooter's motives is now underway. President
2:03:08
Speaker 24: Trump writing on social media this afternoon that the U.S.
2:03:10
Speaker 24: will hold off on a planned military attack on Iran
2:03:13
Speaker 24: that had been scheduled for tomorrow.
2:03:15
Speaker 37: That pause, according to the president, is because, quote, serious
2:03:18
Speaker 37: negotiations are now taking place and a deal acceptable to
2:03:21
Speaker 37: the U.S., quote, will be made. Still, the president warned
2:03:24
Speaker 37: he's asked the Pentagon to prepare for, quote, a full
2:03:26
Speaker 37: large-scale assault on Iran on a moment's notice in the
2:03:29
Speaker 37: event that an acceptable deal is not reached.
2:03:32
Speaker 1: Karen Travers, ABC News, the White House.
2:03:34
Speaker 24: An American citizen has tested positive for the Ebola virus
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Speaker 24: and is now being held at a U.S. military base
2:03:40
Speaker 24: in Germany. That person, identified as a medical missionary named Dr.
2:03:45
Speaker 24: Peter Stafford, had been working in the Democratic Republic of
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Speaker 24: Congo where an outbreak of that virus is taking place.
2:03:51
Speaker 24: ABC News medical correspondent Dr. Darian Sutton has more.
2:03:54
Speaker 33: There is no approved vaccine for the current strain that
2:03:56
Speaker 33: we're seeing circulating in the Democratic Republic of Congo, as
2:03:59
Speaker 33: well as Uganda, and there's no formal treatment. And that
2:04:02
Speaker 33: is where the problem comes into play, because without that
2:04:05
Speaker 33: access to a vaccine and treatment, that makes treating this
2:04:07
Speaker 33: problem even more difficult. And with limitations in resources, interruptions
2:04:11
Speaker 33: in aid, for example, the USAID, that leaves many of
2:04:15
Speaker 33: these people without the needed assistance and increases the risk.
2:04:18
Speaker 11: Of death from these infections.
2:04:20
Speaker 24: Nearly 90 people are suspected to have died from Ebola
2:04:23
Speaker 24: in the DRC. And in Oakland, California, Jerry tossed out
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Speaker 24: Elon Musk's lawsuit against Sam Altman.
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2:04:39
Speaker 1: Good evening, everyone.
2:04:40
Speaker 16: Welcome to the Bet365 Guardians warm-up show tonight from Comerica
2:04:45
Speaker 16: Park in Detroit. It's the Cleveland Guardians and Detroit Tigers
2:04:49
Speaker 16: meeting in the first of a four-game series. Jim Rosenhouse
2:04:53
Speaker 16: along with you. We're supposed to be about a half
2:04:55
Speaker 16: hour prior to tonight's first pitch, but some wet weather
2:04:59
Speaker 16: late in the day is going to push that back
2:05:01
Speaker 16: a little bit. But I don't think too much as
2:05:03
Speaker 16: the rain has subsided considerably and we see some activity
2:05:07
Speaker 16: from the grounds crew. So we'll keep you posted on
2:05:09
Speaker 16: that as we get closer to our scheduled first pitch time.
2:05:13
Speaker 16: But the Guardians trying to keep it rolling after a
2:05:15
Speaker 16: successful weekend against the Reds in a strong homestand. They
2:05:19
Speaker 16: come in four games over the 500 mark, a game
2:05:22
Speaker 16: up on second place. Chicago in the American League Central Division.
2:05:28
Speaker 16: While the Tigers are really laboring out of the gate,
2:05:30
Speaker 16: 20 and 27, they are five and a half back
2:05:33
Speaker 16: of Cleveland in the AL Central. Pitching matchup tonight, it's
2:05:37
Speaker 16: Slade Ciccone for the Guardians and lefty Frambois Valdez as
2:05:41
Speaker 16: these two rivals meet for the first of 13 times
2:05:44
Speaker 16: this season. The past several season series have been wildly entertaining.
2:05:49
Speaker 16: and extremely important down the stretch. We'll see what happens
2:05:51
Speaker 16: here in 2026. Stay tuned. We'll have more to come
2:05:55
Speaker 16: after this.
2:06:00
Speaker 1: The 2-2 to Manzardo. Hit a ton! Deep right!
2:06:05
Speaker 2: Down the line!
2:06:07
Speaker 1: Off the pole!
2:06:09
Speaker 7: A home run!
2:06:11
Speaker 1: A towering blast! High off the foul pole and right!
2:06:17
Speaker 16: Kyle Manzardo hits his third, and he also knocks over
2:06:22
Speaker 16: the right field foul pole.
2:06:24
Speaker 23: Here's the pick.
2:06:25
Speaker 1: And he swings and drives one high and deep to right.
2:06:29
Speaker 16: Does he have a two-homer game?
2:06:31
Speaker 7: Yes, he does.
2:06:33
Speaker 1: Home run Manzardo.
2:06:36
Speaker 16: The Guardians now in front 6-2.
2:06:40
Speaker 23: Welcome back to Guardians Warm-Up. Kyle Manzardo joining us. After
2:06:43
Speaker 23: a two-homer game yesterday, part of six home runs for
2:06:46
Speaker 23: the team.
2:06:46
Speaker 1: Let's start there, Colin.
2:06:48
Speaker 23: You know, they say sometimes good pitching is contagious, good
2:06:51
Speaker 23: defense is contagious. How about home run hitting? Was it
2:06:53
Speaker 23: just one of those days yesterday where everyone was locked in?
2:06:56
Speaker 34: Yeah, I think it was, you know, kind of a
2:06:58
Speaker 34: culmination of, you know, a lot of guys, you know,
2:07:03
Speaker 34: kind of either getting going or, you know, continuing to
2:07:07
Speaker 34: do their thing.
2:07:08
Speaker 30: And it was a lot of fun.
2:07:11
Speaker 23: First time in a while it was a nice baseball day.
2:07:14
Speaker 23: Do we make too much of that in terms of
2:07:16
Speaker 23: success offensively when it's a good day to hit?
2:07:21
Speaker 34: Sometimes, but, I mean, yeah, when the wind's blowing out
2:07:25
Speaker 34: like that and it's warm, you know, I think that
2:07:29
Speaker 34: definitely can lead to good things, at least good thoughts
2:07:34
Speaker 34: that tend to translate pretty good.
2:07:37
Speaker 23: For you personally, it seems like you've been right there
2:07:40
Speaker 23: for a while, and you've hit some shots that didn't
2:07:43
Speaker 23: go out for whatever reason. How important is it, though,
2:07:46
Speaker 23: to finally get them out from everything you do, or
2:07:49
Speaker 23: do you try not to think about that part of it?
2:07:52
Speaker 34: No, in a way, it kind of validates the way
2:07:54
Speaker 34: I've been feeling. I've been you know hitting the ball
2:07:56
Speaker 34: pretty hard getting it in the air to the pole
2:07:58
Speaker 34: side um and and a lot of those results just
2:08:02
Speaker 34: haven't you know quite came uh in the way that
2:08:06
Speaker 34: i'd like them to early on um so i feel
2:08:10
Speaker 34: you know validated and feeling good um when when they
2:08:14
Speaker 34: start to go over Is.
2:08:16
Speaker 23: That one of the biggest challenges as a major league hitter,
2:08:19
Speaker 23: is if you don't get the results, not overreacting and
2:08:22
Speaker 23: changing too many things?
2:08:24
Speaker 30: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
2:08:25
Speaker 34: I think that's part of really being a professional, I think,
2:08:29
Speaker 34: is knowing that at times there's adjustments that need to
2:08:35
Speaker 34: be made, but there's also times when you just got
2:08:38
Speaker 34: to keep doing what you're doing. And kind of navigating
2:08:42
Speaker 34: that is... I think what makes you a professional.
2:08:47
Speaker 23: First one, you nailed the foul pole. Ever done that before?
2:08:50
Speaker 30: No, that was a first. First timer.
2:08:52
Speaker 11: Felt pretty good?
2:08:53
Speaker 30: Yeah, yeah. I'm just happy it stayed fair for me.
2:08:56
Speaker 23: Stay with us. We'll have more with Kyle Manzardo after
2:08:58
Speaker 23: this short break.
2:09:00
Speaker 19: Here's the Bet365 Minute, where winning is everything, with Scott Davidson.
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Speaker 35: Let's look at the numbers tonight as the Guardians head
2:09:07
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2:09:13
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2:09:16
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2:09:18
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2:09:20
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2:09:24
Speaker 1: He has dominated the Orioles throughout his career.
2:09:26
Speaker 35: He is 6-0 against him with a 2.86 ERA, and
2:09:30
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2:09:33
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2:09:37
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Speaker 23: Welcome back. It's Guardian's warm-up. Kyle Manzardo is joining us.
2:10:09
Speaker 23: Kyle would talk so much about hitting, but your play
2:10:12
Speaker 23: at first base defensively has really come along nicely. How
2:10:15
Speaker 23: pleased are you right now with where you are defensively
2:10:18
Speaker 23: at first?
2:10:19
Speaker 30: Really happy with it.
2:10:21
Speaker 34: It was a big part of my training this offseason,
2:10:25
Speaker 34: getting better. I just kind of wanted to be somebody
2:10:30
Speaker 34: that was able to pick my teammates up when they
2:10:34
Speaker 34: didn't make the throw straight to the chest, being able
2:10:37
Speaker 34: to pick them up and then uh, helping my pitchers out.
2:10:41
Speaker 23: And how did you get there? I know you mentioned
2:10:43
Speaker 23: off season, but it seems like you've still made improvements
2:10:46
Speaker 23: as the season has gone along too.
2:10:48
Speaker 34: Yeah, that's just, uh, I mean, I think most of
2:10:51
Speaker 34: it has, has to do with, uh, the work that, uh,
2:10:55
Speaker 34: me and me and JB early put in, in the
2:10:58
Speaker 34: off season. And then the routine me and Ruby have
2:11:01
Speaker 34: going here, uh, this season, I think we found a
2:11:04
Speaker 34: really good groove, something that I think works really good
2:11:07
Speaker 34: for me. Uh, as far as just, you know, keeping
2:11:11
Speaker 34: developing my skills, but also just preparing for the games.
2:11:15
Speaker 34: And I think we're in a good rhythm.
2:11:19
Speaker 23: Team-wise, a series with the Tigers starts tonight. You've been
2:11:22
Speaker 23: here back-to-back years where these teams have met in the playoffs. Obviously,
2:11:27
Speaker 23: the season's so long, you play everybody, you're supposed to
2:11:29
Speaker 23: play them the same. But a little bit extra jump here,
2:11:32
Speaker 23: starting a series against the Tigers? Yeah, of course, of course.
2:11:35
Speaker 30: I mean, they knocked us out last year.
2:11:37
Speaker 34: So, you know, there's a little juice there But I
2:11:40
Speaker 34: think with that being said, we're going to play them
2:11:42
Speaker 34: 20 times this year.
2:11:43
Speaker 30: You know what I mean?
2:11:43
Speaker 34: So, you know, continuing to take it just one day
2:11:47
Speaker 34: at a time, focusing on winning tonight.
2:11:52
Speaker 30: But, yeah, there's definitely a little juice here, I think.
2:11:54
Speaker 1: All right, Kyle.
2:11:55
Speaker 23: Hey, nice going yesterday. Thanks for coming by.
2:11:57
Speaker 30: Thank you.
2:11:57
Speaker 23: That's Kyle Manzardo. Stay tuned. More to come after this.
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Speaker 16: Hi again, everybody. With Cleveland manager Stephen Vogt, this is
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Speaker 16: Tom Hamilton. Welcome. It's the Manager's Show brought to you
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Speaker 16: by KeyBank. Heck of a homestand voter. Now you come
2:15:01
Speaker 16: in here, season high, four games over the 500 mark.
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Speaker 16: But how about yesterday to get, what was it, four
2:15:09
Speaker 16: two-run home runs, six all told, and had a chance
2:15:13
Speaker 16: to use other people in the bullpen. It's amazing how
2:15:17
Speaker 16: what a ball club can look like. The weather gets
2:15:20
Speaker 16: a little bit different and it looks like this club
2:15:22
Speaker 16: is playing with a lot of confidence.
2:15:24
Speaker 43: Yeah, I thought we had a great homestand. I mean,
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Speaker 43: anytime you go six and three over a stretch of
2:15:27
Speaker 43: nine games, I don't care where it is.
2:15:30
Speaker 30: It's huge.
2:15:30
Speaker 43: But getting home and being able to do that and
2:15:33
Speaker 43: really like the way we're playing right now. I mean,
2:15:34
Speaker 43: I feel like we're pitching well, we're playing good defense.
2:15:36
Speaker 43: And obviously the power surge yesterday was a lot of
2:15:39
Speaker 43: fun to watch. And like you said, it allowed us
2:15:42
Speaker 43: to use some other arms in the bullpen and feel
2:15:44
Speaker 43: like we're in the middle of this or at the
2:15:47
Speaker 43: beginning of this 13 in a row, I feel like
2:15:49
Speaker 43: the bullpen's in a pretty good position. And now that
2:15:51
Speaker 43: I say that it'll get torn up over the next
2:15:53
Speaker 43: two nights, but.
2:15:55
Speaker 4: Really like where our guys are.
2:15:56
Speaker 16: Kyle Manzardo. We see again, how important he is to
2:16:00
Speaker 16: this ball club because he's hit now for about three weeks,
2:16:03
Speaker 16: finally got rewarded yesterday, but he can, he can flip
2:16:07
Speaker 16: a ball game in a hurry.
2:16:08
Speaker 34: Yeah.
2:16:09
Speaker 4: He's in the four hole for a reason.
2:16:10
Speaker 43: I mean, we've seen the impact that Kyle can make
2:16:12
Speaker 43: when he's swinging the bat, the way he's capable of. And,
2:16:14
Speaker 43: like you said, the last few weeks has been really,
2:16:16
Speaker 43: really positive trending for Kyle. And to see him get
2:16:20
Speaker 43: a couple homers, it always feels pretty good to double
2:16:23
Speaker 43: up your season total in one day.
2:16:24
Speaker 4: So big day for Kyle, and hopefully you can keep
2:16:27
Speaker 4: it rolling.
2:16:28
Speaker 16: Do you read much into the weekend for Jose Ramirez
2:16:31
Speaker 16: hitting in the two-hole? Because it seemed like he was
2:16:33
Speaker 16: on base every time.
2:16:34
Speaker 43: Yeah, again, whether it was the switch in the lineup
2:16:37
Speaker 43: or it was just the weather turning, Jose looked like
2:16:40
Speaker 43: Jose this weekend, and that was good to see. And
2:16:43
Speaker 43: We all know that when he's going, we're a pretty
2:16:45
Speaker 43: good team. So, you know, Hosey, we're never worried about him,
2:16:49
Speaker 43: but it's always fun when he's getting hits. Angel Martinez
2:16:52
Speaker 43: is off to a tremendous start. Now sometimes a young
2:16:55
Speaker 43: player can get caught up in that, maybe try to
2:16:57
Speaker 43: become a home run hitter. Are any of those things
2:17:00
Speaker 43: that worry you?
2:17:01
Speaker 4: No, not the home run hitter part of it.
2:17:03
Speaker 43: And I think for Angel, you know, we've seen him
2:17:05
Speaker 43: with some really successful stretches over the last few years,
2:17:08
Speaker 43: and he's really done a nice job of being consistent
2:17:11
Speaker 43: out of the gates this year. And we just have
2:17:12
Speaker 43: to keep pushing him. We have to keep helping him learn.
2:17:15
Speaker 43: We have to keep, you know, let's not get settled
2:17:18
Speaker 43: in and say this is who I am as a player.
2:17:20
Speaker 43: Let's get better. Let's keep getting better. And our coaching
2:17:22
Speaker 43: staff is doing a phenomenal job of that.
2:17:24
Speaker 16: It's exciting, though, when you look at this club voter
2:17:28
Speaker 16: from the standpoint. I don't think anyone knows what the
2:17:30
Speaker 16: ceiling is on these kids.
2:17:32
Speaker 4: No, we don't. And that's the beauty of it.
2:17:34
Speaker 43: And that's our job as coaches to make sure that
2:17:35
Speaker 43: we keep developing them and help them understand that. You're
2:17:38
Speaker 43: going to have good days in the big leagues. You're
2:17:40
Speaker 43: going to have bad days in the big leagues because
2:17:42
Speaker 43: it's the big leagues. There's no level above this. You're
2:17:43
Speaker 43: playing the best of the best every night. And let's
2:17:46
Speaker 43: not let one good night drive the bus or let
2:17:49
Speaker 43: one bad night drive the bus. We just have to
2:17:50
Speaker 43: keep our head down and keep working every day.
2:17:53
Speaker 16: What are you guys working on with Patrick Bailey as
2:17:56
Speaker 16: far as his offense? Because he swung the bat awfully
2:17:58
Speaker 16: well yesterday.
2:17:59
Speaker 43: Yeah, I think just talking with Grant Fink and with Patrick,
2:18:03
Speaker 43: it's go show us what you can do.
2:18:05
Speaker 4: We don't know you very well as a hitter. We
2:18:07
Speaker 4: don't know you.
2:18:08
Speaker 43: The whole world knows what you can do behind the plate.
2:18:10
Speaker 43: But let's just start over fresh. There's no history. There's no, oh,
2:18:15
Speaker 43: he can'ts. This is go out, be yourself. Let's work together.
2:18:19
Speaker 43: Let's come up with a good offensive strategy. And he
2:18:22
Speaker 43: and Grant are starting out really well together. And it's
2:18:24
Speaker 43: been fun. It was fun to see him get three
2:18:26
Speaker 43: barrels yesterday.
2:18:27
Speaker 4: I know. It's May.
2:18:29
Speaker 16: And it's the first meeting between these two ball clubs.
2:18:32
Speaker 4: But what was..
2:18:33
Speaker 16: Happening the last couple of years, tremendous October playoff series.
2:18:37
Speaker 16: Do these games feel bigger to you or.
2:18:39
Speaker 43: Is it just the rest of us? I think it's
2:18:41
Speaker 43: just a divisional game. I think we always get excited
2:18:43
Speaker 43: to play our divisional opponents. And yeah, there's been some
2:18:46
Speaker 43: fun back and forth with the Tigers over the last
2:18:48
Speaker 43: couple of years. So we definitely know where we are.
2:18:51
Speaker 43: We know who we're playing. And I expect our guys
2:18:54
Speaker 43: to come out ready to rock.
2:18:55
Speaker 16: And how about Frambois Valdez? He has dominated Cleveland. Some
2:19:00
Speaker 16: of that, obviously, before you were the manager. What makes
2:19:03
Speaker 16: him so good or so difficult?
2:19:05
Speaker 43: He doesn't let you hit the ball in the air.
2:19:08
Speaker 43: I mean, the sinker, slider, curveball, changeup, everything is like
2:19:13
Speaker 43: bowling balls going down towards the bottom of the zone.
2:19:15
Speaker 43: And he's got such good command. He'll crowd you with it.
2:19:19
Speaker 43: He'll get it to the bottom rail a little bit below.
2:19:22
Speaker 43: So we've got to try and hit him in the air.
2:19:25
Speaker 43: If we play with ground balls tonight, he's going to win.
2:19:27
Speaker 43: So We've got to get underneath that sinker. We've got
2:19:29
Speaker 43: to get underneath the changeup, which is tough because he
2:19:31
Speaker 43: throws them below the zone. So we've got to lay
2:19:33
Speaker 43: off those. But when he leaves them up, we've got
2:19:35
Speaker 43: to get them in the air. And that's why he's
2:19:36
Speaker 43: the pitcher that he is. It sounds simple, doesn't it?
2:19:38
Speaker 4: It really is. Yeah, let's just do that.
2:19:40
Speaker 1: All right, there you have it, folks.
2:19:41
Speaker 16: That's why he's the American League Manager of the Year,
2:19:44
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2:20:22
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2:20:33
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2:20:35
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Speaker 16: Welcome back to Comerica Park in Detroit. Guardians and Tigers
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Speaker 16: now for the starting lineups. First for the Guardians and
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Speaker 16: Jose Ramirez at third base bats second. Chase DeLauder in
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Speaker 16: Hedges and Brian Rocchio at shortstop will bat ninth. On
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Speaker 16: the mound tonight for the Guardians, it's right-hander Slade Ciccone.
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Speaker 16: Now for A.J. Hinch and the Detroit Tigers, leading things
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Speaker 16: off Colt Keith, the designated hitter. Kevin McGonigal, the third baseman,
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Speaker 16: will bat second. Dylan Dingler does the catching, and he
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Speaker 16: the first baseman, will bat fifth. Zach McKinstry at second
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Speaker 16: Wincel Perez, the right fielder, hits eighth. And Zach Short
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Speaker 16: This is Tom Hamilton, and welcome to Comerica Park in Rainy,
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Speaker 16: downtown Detroit, Michigan, where the Cleveland Guardians and the Detroit
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Speaker 16: Tigers are going to begin a four-game series tonight. Now,
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Speaker 16: that at approximately 7.20, we will have the first pitch
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Speaker 16: of tonight's game between these two ball clubs. And the
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Speaker 16: Guardians and the Detroit Tigers, who will meet 13 times
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Speaker 16: this season, will finally play each other. for the first
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Speaker 16: seeing Detroit now for the first time and the ball
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Speaker 16: club and the Chicago White Sox will not play each
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Speaker 16: other until the third week in June. Actually, it'll be
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Speaker 16: the fourth week in June, and that'll be in Chicago.
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Speaker 16: So the White Sox, one of the most surprising teams
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Speaker 16: in baseball, is a club that Cleveland will not face
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Speaker 16: until we get near the tail end of the month
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Speaker 16: of June. Anyway, it'll be 13 meetings when it's all
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Speaker 16: said and done between all the division rivals.
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Speaker 1: Of course, Cleveland..
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Speaker 16: By virtue of winning five out of the last six
2:28:31
Speaker 16: games the last two weeks of last year head-to-head against Detroit.
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Speaker 16: Caught the Tigers, had that historical comeback, and won another
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Speaker 16: American League Central Division crown, and thus this will be
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Speaker 16: the first meeting now since that incredible finish of the
2:28:49
Speaker 16: regular season, and then a terrific three-game wild-card playoff series
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Speaker 16: that the Tigers eventually won. in Game 3. The tarp
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Speaker 16: is off the field here. They're now squeegeeing the water
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Speaker 16: that ran off the tarp to the drainage areas in
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Speaker 16: the outfield. And neither starting pitcher has remotely begun getting
2:29:12
Speaker 16: ready for the start of tonight's game. But the good
2:29:15
Speaker 16: news is we are going to play baseball. It has
2:29:18
Speaker 16: been in the 80s. It's been humid. It's been breezy today.
2:29:23
Speaker 16: Right now, of course, the rain has stopped. It's still overcast.
2:29:27
Speaker 16: But it's pleasant, and it's still in the upper 70s
2:29:31
Speaker 16: with a light breeze at the moment blowing in from
2:29:34
Speaker 16: right field. So the Cleveland Guardians in first place in
2:29:37
Speaker 16: the Central by a game over the White Sox. The
2:29:41
Speaker 16: Detroit Tigers in last place with Kansas City, seven games under. 500,
2:29:48
Speaker 16: five and a half games behind Cleveland, will play tonight
2:29:52
Speaker 16: at approximately.
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Speaker 1: 720.
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Speaker 4: Thank you, Hammy.
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Speaker 21: Welcome to At the Ballpark, where we hope you enjoy
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Speaker 21: our conversations with those involved in the great game of baseball.
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Speaker 4: Those who may have.
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Speaker 21: Been behind the scenes or the colorful personalities who have
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Speaker 21: joined by lefty rick waits who enjoyed a 12-year big
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Speaker 21: league career nine in cleveland rick thank you for connecting
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Speaker 21: please catch us up on your family and what you're.
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Speaker 5: Doing these days well thank you bob i really appreciate
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Speaker 5: you and uh getting together like this always great to
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Speaker 5: see you we go way back to the 70s but
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Speaker 5: we won't talk about that but uh You know, we're
2:33:20
Speaker 5: doing wonderful.
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Speaker 15: We're still in Arizona.
2:33:22
Speaker 5: I retired about three years ago from baseball after 44
2:33:26
Speaker 5: years of pro baseball. 20 as a player, 24 as
2:33:30
Speaker 5: a coach. But I still love watching baseball and watching
2:33:34
Speaker 5: Guardians baseball.
2:33:36
Speaker 15: And so family's great, Annie. It's doing wonderful.
2:33:40
Speaker 5: My three children are spread around the country from San
2:33:42
Speaker 5: Francisco to Washington, D.C., to North Carolina. And they're very
2:33:46
Speaker 5: busy and very successful. So we're very, very thankful for that.
2:33:50
Speaker 5: And the one thing we always talk about is, you know,
2:33:53
Speaker 5: one of my first daughter, Elizabeth, she was.
2:33:55
Speaker 15: Born in Cleveland.
2:33:56
Speaker 5: I got married in Cleveland at Shaker Heights Country Club.
2:33:59
Speaker 5: And so Cleveland goes way back with our family.
2:34:02
Speaker 21: You're living in Tucson, Arizona these days. You grew up, though,
2:34:06
Speaker 21: in Atlanta, Georgia. You're signed by, this will date you
2:34:10
Speaker 21: as fans will hear, that he was signed by the
2:34:12
Speaker 21: Washington Senators way back in the 1970 draft, fifth round
2:34:19
Speaker 21: draft pick. You never get to wear a Senator's uniform, right?
2:34:23
Speaker 21: Because they had moved to Texas by the time you
2:34:26
Speaker 21: were in the big leagues.
2:34:28
Speaker 30: Right.
2:34:28
Speaker 5: There was just a few of us at that time
2:34:30
Speaker 5: that are still left alive, if you want to say.
2:34:33
Speaker 15: But, you know, it was Toby Harrah got signed by them.
2:34:37
Speaker 5: Bill Madlock, the great mad dog hitter with Pittsburgh Pirates
2:34:41
Speaker 5: and also Texas Rangers and Cubs.
2:34:43
Speaker 15: So we were all teammates right from the start. It
2:34:46
Speaker 15: was kind of cool. But, yeah, Washington Senators.
2:34:49
Speaker 5: And I remember my scout was a guy named Hillis Lane,
2:34:52
Speaker 5: and he had played second base with them back in
2:34:54
Speaker 5: the 50s. But no, they changed, I think, to Texas
2:34:58
Speaker 5: in 72. So I did play in the minor leagues
2:35:01
Speaker 5: a year and a half, two years as Washington Senators. But,
2:35:06
Speaker 5: you know, no, I never got to the big leagues.
2:35:09
Speaker 21: You pitched one inning in the big leagues for Texas
2:35:12
Speaker 21: before being traded over to Cleveland, a relief appearance.
2:35:16
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, they got called up at the end
2:35:19
Speaker 5: of the year after we had won the championship at
2:35:21
Speaker 5: AAA Spokane, Washington. And it looked like I wasn't going
2:35:25
Speaker 5: to get in there, even though I think we were
2:35:27
Speaker 5: 30 or 40 games out. Billy Martin had just been
2:35:29
Speaker 5: named the manager. And I believe this is right, but
2:35:32
Speaker 5: Steve Dunning, I also pitched for the Indians, if I remember,
2:35:36
Speaker 5: he started a game and went eight shutout innings. And
2:35:39
Speaker 5: he begged Billy Martin to put me in. And Billy said, no,
2:35:42
Speaker 5: I'm not putting you in, even.
2:35:44
Speaker 15: Though we're way up.
2:35:45
Speaker 5: But anyhow, he put me in the game way up,
2:35:47
Speaker 5: like nine to nothing, eight to nothing. And I remember
2:35:51
Speaker 5: I gave up an inning, a hit, one run, one earned.
2:35:54
Speaker 5: one based on balls, one double play, and one save.
2:35:59
Speaker 5: Because in those days, if you finished the game, you
2:36:01
Speaker 5: got a save. So I got it all done in
2:36:03
Speaker 5: one inning.
2:36:05
Speaker 21: Well, you won a number of games in AAA and
2:36:09
Speaker 21: still didn't get called up to the big leagues.
2:36:11
Speaker 11: Talk about that a little bit.
2:36:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that was a disappointing time in my
2:36:15
Speaker 5: life where I was wondering, you know, am I doing
2:36:18
Speaker 5: the right thing?
2:36:18
Speaker 15: I think I had won 31 games.
2:36:22
Speaker 5: Games in AAA, you know, over a couple years before
2:36:25
Speaker 5: they really gave me a chance. But that chance really
2:36:28
Speaker 5: came with Cleveland trading Gaylord Perry for me, Jackie Brown,
2:36:33
Speaker 5: Jim Bibby, and I'm sure a ton of money in
2:36:36
Speaker 5: that trade. But, you know, Texas just did not believe
2:36:39
Speaker 5: in me at the time, and that's fine.
2:36:42
Speaker 15: They had their reasons.
2:36:43
Speaker 5: But I'm so glad that I got traded, so glad
2:36:45
Speaker 5: that I was able to get a chance in Cleveland.
2:36:48
Speaker 21: Share your thoughts on how you think you ended up
2:36:50
Speaker 21: being part of that trade. It was Gaylord Perry going
2:36:55
Speaker 21: to Texas in exchange for you, Jim Bibby, Jackie.
2:36:59
Speaker 11: Brown, and some cash.
2:37:03
Speaker 21: I think it was $ 100, 000. You and I have talked
2:37:06
Speaker 21: about it before, but share with our listeners the reasoning
2:37:09
Speaker 21: you think that Frank Robinson threw you into that deal.
2:37:14
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't know Frank Robinson until I showed up
2:37:17
Speaker 5: in Cleveland in late July, August of that year, 75.
2:37:22
Speaker 5: But the winter before, I was in the Caribbean Series
2:37:26
Speaker 5: baseball in Puerto Rico. I played for the Dominican team,
2:37:29
Speaker 5: the Aguilas. of Ceballo. But we went to the championship
2:37:32
Speaker 5: game and I pitched the complete game and beat the
2:37:36
Speaker 5: Puerto Rican team for the championship. The manager of that
2:37:41
Speaker 5: team was Frank Robinson. And I still think to this
2:37:44
Speaker 5: day when everybody got in the room and said, let's
2:37:47
Speaker 5: trade Gaylord or whatever. I'm sure Frank probably said, what
2:37:51
Speaker 5: about this kid, Waits? I mean, he really pitched great
2:37:55
Speaker 5: against us. Throw him in. Throw him in the trade.
2:37:57
Speaker 5: And I think that's what happened. I think they threw
2:37:59
Speaker 5: me in the trade, and they completed it and moved on.
2:38:04
Speaker 21: What was Frank like? Most people I've talked to said
2:38:06
Speaker 21: he was a tough guy, but a fair guy. What
2:38:10
Speaker 21: were your thoughts and feelings about playing for him?
2:38:14
Speaker 4: Historic manager, Frank Robinson.
2:38:16
Speaker 15: You know, I loved him as a manager. I mean,
2:38:18
Speaker 15: for many reasons.
2:38:19
Speaker 5: First of all, he gave me a chance. He gave
2:38:21
Speaker 5: me the ball and said, go get him, kid. I
2:38:23
Speaker 5: really appreciate that. And the second thing is I like
2:38:26
Speaker 5: tough guys. I like tough managers, and he was tough.
2:38:29
Speaker 15: He always told me straight exactly the way it was.
2:38:33
Speaker 5: I should have thrown that pitch. I shouldn't have thrown
2:38:35
Speaker 5: that pitch. No, I'm not pitching you today because of
2:38:39
Speaker 5: this or that. And he was always fair and upfront
2:38:42
Speaker 5: with me, and I always appreciated that.
2:38:45
Speaker 21: I cannot have a conversation with you without talking about
2:38:50
Speaker 21: your opening day start, Saturday, April 7, 1979, because that
2:38:55
Speaker 21: was my first game as an employee of the Cleveland
2:38:59
Speaker 21: Indians organization, and you go out and toss a complete
2:39:04
Speaker 21: game one hitter on opening day.
2:39:06
Speaker 15: Well, of course I knew it was your first day.
2:39:08
Speaker 7: No, I didn't.
2:39:09
Speaker 15: But wow, I didn't know that. That's fantastic.
2:39:12
Speaker 21: My first day of work as the season started.
2:39:15
Speaker 5: I remember in spring training with about two weeks to go,
2:39:17
Speaker 5: you know, they said, okay, you got opening day. And
2:39:20
Speaker 5: I went, wow, I knew about opening day in Cleveland.
2:39:22
Speaker 5: It's the greatest opening day of all baseball, I think.
2:39:26
Speaker 5: And I said, okay, and it's the Boston Red Sox.
2:39:28
Speaker 5: They were pretty good at that time. But I remember
2:39:31
Speaker 5: that day because of the crowd. The crowd sounded like
2:39:34
Speaker 5: 100,000 people. It was cold, a little drizzly.
2:39:38
Speaker 15: And, you know, I ended up pitching a one-hitter.
2:39:41
Speaker 5: It was a magical, magical day for me because getting
2:39:45
Speaker 5: that opening day is a big deal for a starting pitcher.
2:39:48
Speaker 21: Well, officially, the record books say 23 degrees. At least
2:39:52
Speaker 21: my scorebook says 23 degrees.
2:39:54
Speaker 4: And we won 3-0.
2:39:58
Speaker 21: Dwayne Kuyper gets a two-run single to make it 3-0
2:40:01
Speaker 21: in the bottom of the eighth. I remember it like yesterday.
2:40:05
Speaker 21: I also remember, I don't know if you do, top
2:40:08
Speaker 21: of the ninth, number three, four, five hitters for the
2:40:11
Speaker 21: Red Sox for you to close out a complete game. Again,
2:40:14
Speaker 21: you walked six, but you only had given up one hit.
2:40:18
Speaker 21: Do you remember who those three hitters were?
2:40:21
Speaker 5: Well, no, I can probably guess, you know, but I'm
2:40:24
Speaker 5: going to say Rice, Lynn, and Yastrzemski or something like that.
2:40:28
Speaker 21: That's exactly right, but it was Freddie Lynn, then Jim Rice,
2:40:31
Speaker 21: and then Yaz was fifth.
2:40:33
Speaker 5: I don't remember what they did, but I remember they
2:40:35
Speaker 5: didn't score any runs at any.
2:40:37
Speaker 11: That's exactly right.
2:40:38
Speaker 21: What happened was you actually hit Freddie Lynn with a
2:40:42
Speaker 21: pitch to lead off the ninth, and then Jim Rice
2:40:45
Speaker 21: hit into a double play. Tommy Verizer, for all the
2:40:49
Speaker 21: old fans out there that remember, Tommy Verizer to Dwayne
2:40:53
Speaker 21: Kuyper to Andre Thornton to finish it off.
2:40:56
Speaker 5: The thing I remember is that I was surprised he
2:40:59
Speaker 5: kind of left me in. I mean, I was pitching
2:41:01
Speaker 5: one hit shutout. That's throwing a lot of pitches. I'd
2:41:03
Speaker 5: walk five or six guys or so, but that's another
2:41:05
Speaker 5: reason why I like Frank. I earned the right to
2:41:08
Speaker 5: go back out there, and I can't give it to me.
2:41:10
Speaker 5: So I'm thankful for that.
2:41:11
Speaker 4: You're 24 years as a coach.
2:41:14
Speaker 21: Obviously, you were a pitching coach for a number of teams,
2:41:17
Speaker 21: pitching coordinator in the player development systems. You also spent
2:41:22
Speaker 21: time in Italy as a pitching coach, which made you
2:41:25
Speaker 21: a wine connoisseur. Talk about how much enjoyment you got
2:41:30
Speaker 21: out of coaching and helping a young kid, and then
2:41:34
Speaker 21: you got to see him on the big league stage
2:41:36
Speaker 21: a year or two later and him enjoying success in
2:41:40
Speaker 21: the big league.
2:41:42
Speaker 15: Well, you know, it's very important.
2:41:43
Speaker 5: I know the joy that all of us had, myself including,
2:41:47
Speaker 5: and how hard it was to get there.
2:41:49
Speaker 15: It was not easy.
2:41:50
Speaker 5: I don't care how good you are. An injury could
2:41:52
Speaker 5: set you back. Somebody better than you might be right
2:41:55
Speaker 5: in front of you. And I just remember I wanted
2:41:58
Speaker 5: to make sure that I had a chance to share
2:42:00
Speaker 5: with any young kid or any veteran that was trying
2:42:02
Speaker 5: to make a comeback of trying to figure out what
2:42:04
Speaker 5: you should do best to give your best shot at
2:42:07
Speaker 5: getting to the big leagues. And you know, it's another thing.
2:42:10
Speaker 5: You can't find any two guys that throw the same
2:42:12
Speaker 5: as a pitcher. So you can find out what a
2:42:13
Speaker 5: guy does right, get him to master that, and give
2:42:16
Speaker 5: his best shot and be ready to, you know, when
2:42:18
Speaker 5: you get a break. And so, you know, I was
2:42:20
Speaker 5: able to coach in Venezuela. I was able to coach
2:42:23
Speaker 5: in Taiwan, Italy, major leagues in New York, major leagues
2:42:28
Speaker 5: in Seattle, and then, of course, pitching coordinator for many,
2:42:30
Speaker 5: many years.
2:42:31
Speaker 15: A lot of pitchers over those years.
2:42:33
Speaker 5: And I just hope that they know I did my
2:42:36
Speaker 5: best and I tried to give them everything they needed
2:42:38
Speaker 5: to be successful.
2:42:39
Speaker 21: Who stands out like the first time you saw them go, oh, my,
2:42:44
Speaker 21: you know, what an arm?
2:42:47
Speaker 5: I think, you know, I'd like to think about that
2:42:49
Speaker 5: a little longer, you know, because it was 24 years.
2:42:52
Speaker 15: Did you have Felix Hernandez? Yeah, Felix Hernandez.
2:42:55
Speaker 5: Taiwan Walker was another kid that probably could have played
2:42:59
Speaker 5: in the NBA.
2:43:00
Speaker 15: He was a great high school basketball player. But, yeah,
2:43:04
Speaker 15: Tyrone Walker was really special.
2:43:06
Speaker 5: I remember some veterans like Steve Trassel, Tommy Glavin, kind
2:43:10
Speaker 5: of finishing their careers a little bit at Stan Sharp.
2:43:13
Speaker 4: You had Tommy at New York Mets.
2:43:14
Speaker 5: Yes, had him with the Mets, and he was excited
2:43:17
Speaker 5: to be around.
2:43:18
Speaker 15: But, yeah, Felix Hernandez, probably one of the better pitchers
2:43:21
Speaker 15: I ever coached.
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Speaker 21: Give me a sense of what it's like teaching baseball
2:43:26
Speaker 21: in Italy.
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Speaker 6: Wow.
2:43:28
Speaker 5: You know, when they first asked me did I want
2:43:30
Speaker 5: to play in Italy, I said, do they play baseball
2:43:32
Speaker 5: in Italy?
2:43:33
Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
2:43:34
Speaker 15: And they really do. Our U.S.
2:43:37
Speaker 5: Military brought it to Anzio Beach, Anzio area, southern Italy,
2:43:41
Speaker 5: back during the war. They became a pro league in 59.
2:43:44
Speaker 5: A few imports come over for each team. Over there
2:43:48
Speaker 5: it was really different because you could make a big difference.
2:43:52
Speaker 5: You know, sometimes when you coach a AAA guy, That
2:43:55
Speaker 5: little thing can get him over the hump. Over there,
2:43:58
Speaker 5: you could change somebody overnight from not real good to
2:44:03
Speaker 5: really good because it was so much for them to learn.
2:44:06
Speaker 5: So it was exciting. I played three or four games
2:44:08
Speaker 5: a week. We won a few championships.
2:44:11
Speaker 15: Over there also. It was just great.
2:44:13
Speaker 5: I also got to pitch there, and I got to
2:44:15
Speaker 5: pitch against the Italians, the Spanish, the Germans, so many
2:44:19
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Speaker 15: But it was fun.
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Speaker 21: Welcome to At the Ballpark, where we hope you enjoy
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Speaker 21: our conversations with those involved in the wonderful game of baseball.
2:46:55
Speaker 21: Those who may be behind the scenes or the colorful
2:46:57
Speaker 21: personalities who have provided so many exciting moments and memories.
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Speaker 21: Today we are joined by former pitcher and big league
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Speaker 21: manager John Farrell. Always great to see you, John.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you too, Bobby. And I got to tell you,
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Speaker 4: you know, we first met back in the late 80s
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Speaker 4: and you don't look a day older than the day
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Speaker 4: we first met. You look great. So it's fun to
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Speaker 4: be back. here for these couple of days.
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Speaker 21: You're too kind, sir. You enjoyed an incredibly full life
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Speaker 21: in the game of baseball. We'll talk about that journey
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Speaker 21: in a moment. But first, Please share what you're up
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Speaker 21: to these days.
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Speaker 4: Well, I've taken a script or a page out of
2:47:35
Speaker 4: a book that was written when I was a young
2:47:37
Speaker 4: kid working for my dad as a commercial fisherman on
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Speaker 4: his boat. And, you know, for the entire time that
2:47:43
Speaker 4: I was in the game, whether it was as an
2:47:44
Speaker 4: active player, coach, manager, whatever, it was always in the
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Speaker 4: back of my mind to hopefully one day return to
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Speaker 4: the water. And fortunately, I've been able to be in
2:47:51
Speaker 4: a position to do just that. So I reside up
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Speaker 4: in Gloucester, Massachusetts. full-time commercial lobster fisherman, which is what
2:47:58
Speaker 4: I did as a young kid working for my dad.
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Speaker 4: And to be able to come full circle in a sense,
2:48:04
Speaker 4: it's been really rewarding and working for yourself. So great
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Speaker 4: independence and you get out of it what you put
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Speaker 4: into it. So I'm very lucky. That's remarkable.
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Speaker 21: I love that full circle thing with your dad. So
2:48:15
Speaker 21: let's even go one step further with your dad's influence
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Speaker 21: on your life. Not many people probably remember your dad
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Speaker 21: was a minor league pitcher for the Cleveland Indians in
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Speaker 21: the 1950s, so he taught you a lot about the
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Speaker 21: art of commercial fishing and also the art of pitching.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he really did. He only played, I believe it
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Speaker 4: was three seasons before a shoulder injury took him away
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Speaker 4: from the game. He was teammates with Herb Score and
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Speaker 4: Redding in 1953, and I know that was always a
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Speaker 4: a link for him to my time here in Cleveland.
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Speaker 4: But he had such an impact. And growing up in
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Speaker 4: New Jersey, right south of New York City, he always
2:48:57
Speaker 4: picked Tom Seaver. Any night Tom Seaver was on TV,
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Speaker 4: that was the telestrator because it was a pronounced drop
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Speaker 4: and drive pitching motion. That's what he taught me by
2:49:07
Speaker 4: pointing out, you know, he was a left-handed pitcher, I'm
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Speaker 4: a right-hander. So he used Seaver as an example because
2:49:12
Speaker 4: he was left-handed and thought, you know what, this will
2:49:14
Speaker 4: be an easier pitcher to maybe replicate. So there was
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Speaker 4: a connection through my dad to Tom Seaver that he
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Speaker 4: became my idol as a young kid growing up.
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Speaker 11: Well, you picked a good one.
2:49:24
Speaker 4: What a great man he was.
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Speaker 21: And also, if you go back and look at his
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Speaker 21: statistics and what that guy achieved on the mound, obviously
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Speaker 21: a Hall of Famer, but just a remarkable performer in
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Speaker 21: the big leagues. Did you ever get to meet him?
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Speaker 4: I did, you know, in a couple of different ways. One,
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Speaker 4: I had a Oh, I'd say probably a 24 by
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Speaker 4: 36 framed picture in my office in Boston when he
2:49:50
Speaker 4: was pitching for the Red Sox. And I happened to
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Speaker 4: meet him in Fenway one day. But even more special
2:49:56
Speaker 4: than that was a day in which I spent with
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Speaker 4: him at his winery out in Napa Valley. And that was,
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Speaker 4: for me, being a kid in a candy store. Growing up, obviously,
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Speaker 4: the pitching idol. But then to walk with him around his... winery,
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Speaker 4: and him just kind of walking through the whole process.
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Speaker 4: It was a smaller winery, but it produced great red wine.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, there was a couple of chances and interactions
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Speaker 4: to spend some time, and just as you said, a
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Speaker 4: great man, a great pitcher, and easily a Hall of Fame.
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Speaker 21: It's so funny, because one of my funny stories with
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Speaker 21: Tom Seaver is at Jim Tomey's Hall of Fame induction ceremony.
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Speaker 21: We're in the hall for the party afterwards, and I
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Speaker 21: go up to the bar to get a couple drinks,
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Speaker 21: and standing.
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Speaker 4: Next to me, is Tom Seaver.
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Speaker 21: And I asked him, I said, how come they're not
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Speaker 21: serving your wine? And you just gave me a little
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Speaker 21: hint as to why it's pretty special. Is why maybe
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Speaker 21: they weren't serving it at the party. But you make
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Speaker 21: your major league debut. Let's talk about your time in
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Speaker 21: Cleveland on the mound. You make your big league debut
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Speaker 21: on August 18th, 1987. It's Cleveland Stadium. You come in
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Speaker 21: out of the bullpen, which was rare for you. and
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Speaker 21: you promptly give up back-to-back singles to Paul Molitor and
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Speaker 21: Robin Yount. Not too bad a combo there and two
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Speaker 21: Hall of Famers, but you were not used to coming
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Speaker 21: out of the bullpen.
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Speaker 1: No, not at all.
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Speaker 4: And, you know, when I got called up earlier that day,
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Speaker 4: they had said, you know, Doc Edwards had mentioned, he goes, hey,
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Speaker 4: we're a little short, so we're going to need you
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Speaker 4: down the bullpen. Just, you know, you're not going to pitch,
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Speaker 4: but just be down there. Well, as it unfolds, you know,
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Speaker 4: Doug Jones enters the game, I believe, in the eighth inning.
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Speaker 4: He pitches two and a third innings as the closer.
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Speaker 4: And in 1987, you know, we're working with nine and
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Speaker 4: ten-man pitching staffs. So I'm looking around. As each reliever's
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Speaker 4: going to the ball game, I'm the last one standing
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Speaker 4: down there. And knowing that Jones is a closer, he's
2:51:50
Speaker 4: only going to go so far. So the phone rings.
2:51:52
Speaker 4: I get up. I'm getting loose. And, you know, at
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Speaker 4: the time, you can't feel your knees. You know, the
2:51:56
Speaker 4: nervousness is there. So as you mentioned, Molitor and Neon,
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Speaker 4: my first two major league pitches resulted in two guys
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Speaker 4: standing on base. And I thought– I am way in
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Speaker 4: over my head. And fortunately, you know, you get out
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Speaker 4: of the inning and, you know, thankfully, Pat Tabler, who
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Speaker 4: had a career batting average of over 500 with runners
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Speaker 4: with bases loaded, that unfolds the next half inning. And
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Speaker 4: I'm sitting there before Tabby gets to the plate. I'm thinking,
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Speaker 4: this game's over. And lo and behold, he hits a
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Speaker 4: bloop single behind the second baseman. And we win the game. So, yeah,
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Speaker 4: first appearance, get a win that night.
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Speaker 21: Your connection to Paul Molitor is extended when you snap.
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Speaker 21: His 39-game hitting streak in Milwaukee. I have to ask,
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Speaker 21: did you give up the hit to Archie to.
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Speaker 11: Win the game?
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Speaker 48: No, because he got booed, right? Archie got booed because
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Speaker 48: Molitor was on deck. Yeah, it's so ironic how it's certain.
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Speaker 48: You look back at how it unfolded. Five nights prior
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Speaker 48: to that, I'm pitching the second game of a doubleheader.
2:52:57
Speaker 48: Rich Yett started the first game. He sprains his ankle.
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Speaker 48: He's supposed to make the start in Milwaukee.
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Speaker 4: Can't post. I get the start of the game that
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Speaker 4: we're referring to now. But, yeah, how many times does
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Speaker 4: a guy get a walk-off base hit and get booed
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Speaker 4: in his home ballpark? Archie and I have laughed about
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Speaker 4: that for the couple years following, but a unique night
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Speaker 4: and one that just happened to have a number of
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Speaker 4: things play in its favor to happen.
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Speaker 21: Molitor on deck, hoping to extend his hitting streak to
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Speaker 21: 40 games, but you took care of him early in
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Speaker 21: the game. How about the 1988 Cleveland Indians? have six
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Speaker 21: guys on that roster become managers. And the sixth, normally
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Speaker 21: people think only five, but Dave Clark actually managed 13
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Speaker 21: games for the Houston Astros late in one season. But
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Speaker 21: five of you become managers.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Bobby, in 1988, no one knew what
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Speaker 4: the next year would hold in store for any of us,
2:53:55
Speaker 4: let alone the next 15 or 20 years. But I
2:53:58
Speaker 4: think the common thread through the guys, Tito, obviously, Ron Washington,
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Speaker 4: Bud Black, myself, Charlie Manuel. We loved the game. We
2:54:07
Speaker 4: had hoped at some point, because, heck, I was hopeful
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Speaker 4: I was going to continue to pitch for a while,
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Speaker 4: you wanted to stay in the game in some capacity.
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Speaker 4: You never knew what that was going to be. I
2:54:16
Speaker 4: don't know. At times we'd find ourselves in winter meetings
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Speaker 4: many years later in 1988, and we'd all think, was
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Speaker 4: there something in the water in Cleveland that we drank
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Speaker 4: that led us to this? But I think we learned
2:54:28
Speaker 4: from one another. We had a... ability to kind of
2:54:31
Speaker 4: see other guys interact with teammates and players and I
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Speaker 4: think as a manager that is one of the most
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Speaker 4: critical characteristics is how do you deal with different personalities
2:54:41
Speaker 4: and you know Tito is probably the best of the
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Speaker 4: group in terms of personal awareness and reading people and
2:54:47
Speaker 4: how best to navigate a situation. But you know what?
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Speaker 4: We were thankful for the opportunity here in Cleveland at
2:54:53
Speaker 4: the time, and it is a little bit coincidental that
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Speaker 4: so many of us were together at once.
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Speaker 21: It's a heck of a trivia question. There's no question
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Speaker 21: about it. May 4th, 1989, Cleveland Stadium. You're throwing eight
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Speaker 21: no-hit innings. Let's circle back to your dad again. You're
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Speaker 21: pitching eight no-hit innings. He happens to be sitting on
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Speaker 21: the hood of his car on the Jersey Shore.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think we're fortunate to have a
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Speaker 4: radio station as strong as, at the time, 3WE. And
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Speaker 4: here he is in New Jersey, able to pick up
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Speaker 4: Herb's score. Once again, a former teammate in the minor leagues.
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Speaker 4: He's now calling the game. And I remember having a
2:55:32
Speaker 4: conversation on the phone with my dad after, you know, unfortunately,
2:55:35
Speaker 4: it ended in the ninth inning. But yeah, just a
2:55:38
Speaker 4: really cool moment that I think this game lends to,
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Speaker 4: that can connect generations, that can connect so many different
2:55:44
Speaker 4: people in so many different ways. And that was it
2:55:46
Speaker 4: for me. And, you know, Kevin Seitzer bloops a little
2:55:50
Speaker 4: base hit down behind second and first base in that
2:55:53
Speaker 4: 3-4 area down there. But a fun day. I can
2:55:59
Speaker 4: remember having a collision with Bob Boom, who had a
2:56:02
Speaker 4: ground ball, like a check swing up the line towards
2:56:04
Speaker 4: first base, and I go over to cover the bag
2:56:06
Speaker 4: and tag him, and he tries to run me over.
2:56:08
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, ah, okay, this is what he's trying
2:56:10
Speaker 4: to do. So it was just things that still stick
2:56:13
Speaker 4: in your mind. And thankfully, Jonesy saved the game that
2:56:17
Speaker 4: day to be able to take home a win.
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Speaker 11: I remember that night vividly.
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Speaker 1: It was awesome.
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Speaker 15: And then to hear the next.
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Speaker 21: Day you talk about the story of you and your
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Speaker 21: dad connecting as he did. And for those of us
2:56:28
Speaker 21: that knew he had pitched with Herbie, that's just the
2:56:31
Speaker 21: beauty of this game.
2:56:32
Speaker 4: Thanks for spending some time with us, John. Thanks, Bobby.
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Speaker 4: It's great seeing you again and being able to share
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Speaker 4: a couple of days back here in Cleveland.
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Speaker 4: Thank you, Hammy.
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Speaker 21: Welcome to At the Ballpark, where we hope you enjoy
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Speaker 21: our conversations with those involved in the wonderful game of baseball.
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Speaker 21: Those who may be behind the scenes or the colorful personalities.
2:58:55
Speaker 21: who have provided so many exciting moments and memories. We're
2:58:59
Speaker 21: joined by outfielder Ellis Burks.
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Speaker 4: Appreciate you taking the time to.
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Speaker 16: Connect, Ellis.
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Speaker 11: Thanks for having me, Bobby. I enjoy it. Every time
2:59:07
Speaker 11: I come to the ballpark, I get to see guys
2:59:08
Speaker 11: like you.
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Speaker 1: That's very kind.
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Speaker 21: You enjoyed a long major league career, 18 seasons with
2:59:15
Speaker 21: five different ball clubs.
2:59:17
Speaker 4: Your big league career started.
2:59:19
Speaker 21: At the age of 22, and you ended at the
2:59:21
Speaker 21: age of 39. including three seasons in a Cleveland uniform.
2:59:26
Speaker 1: It all began when.
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Speaker 21: You were the Boston Red Sox number one draft pick,
2:59:31
Speaker 21: the 20th pick overall in 1983. Oddly, it was the
2:59:36
Speaker 21: January draft. Not many people remember there was a January
2:59:41
Speaker 21: draft and a June draft.
2:59:43
Speaker 1: How did all that come about?
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Speaker 11: Well, you know, I had went to Ranger Junior College
2:59:48
Speaker 11: out of high school and ended up playing there my
2:59:52
Speaker 11: freshman year. I had no idea about a January draft.
2:59:56
Speaker 11: And all of a sudden, the scouts were coming to
2:59:58
Speaker 11: the game, and they said, you have an opportunity to
3:00:00
Speaker 11: get drafted.
3:00:01
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, great.
3:00:02
Speaker 11: And they drafted me in the first round. The Red
3:00:04
Speaker 11: Sox did. And that was the last year of the
3:00:07
Speaker 11: January draft, 1983. Quite a moment for me and my
3:00:10
Speaker 11: family to get an opportunity to play pro ball, you know,
3:00:14
Speaker 11: not knowing that I was making it to the big
3:00:16
Speaker 11: leagues eventually, but just to have that opportunity was amazing.
3:00:19
Speaker 21: You were born in Mississippi and then, but grew up
3:00:23
Speaker 21: in Texas, Fort Worth area. What age did you move
3:00:28
Speaker 21: into Texas and begin to play? Were you an all
3:00:31
Speaker 21: three sport guy, four sport guy, I'm sure?
3:00:34
Speaker 11: Well, I left Mississippi when I was 10 years old.
3:00:38
Speaker 11: And my parents moved to Texas. And, of course, middle school,
3:00:42
Speaker 11: high school, college in Texas. And all of a sudden,
3:00:46
Speaker 11: you know, in high school, I did play basketball.
3:00:49
Speaker 4: I played baseball.
3:00:50
Speaker 11: I ran track. Did not play football, which is, everyone
3:00:53
Speaker 11: asks me, why didn't you play football? Well, my dad
3:00:56
Speaker 11: told me, he says, hey, if you're going to concentrate
3:00:59
Speaker 11: on track and baseball, football will get you hurt. And
3:01:03
Speaker 11: the first time I went out to try out, I
3:01:06
Speaker 11: got hurt.
3:01:06
Speaker 19: Wow.
3:01:07
Speaker 11: Yeah, so I eliminated that from my scheduling.
3:01:12
Speaker 21: When you began your big league career, Ellis, with the
3:01:15
Speaker 21: Red Sox in 1987, I mean, you jumped right in.
3:01:19
Speaker 21: You did not ease into the big leagues. You played
3:01:22
Speaker 21: 133 games, had 606 plate appearances.
3:01:23
Speaker 4: No easing into.
3:01:24
Speaker 15: It for you.
3:01:25
Speaker 30: 20 homers, 27 steals.
3:01:26
Speaker 21: 2020 club right out of the box.
3:01:34
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, you know, it was one of those
3:01:35
Speaker 11: things where I knew how to play the game. You know,
3:01:40
Speaker 11: I was in the minor leagues for the Red Sox
3:01:42
Speaker 11: for three seasons, you know, learned a lot. They groomed
3:01:44
Speaker 11: me well. So when I got that opportunity to make
3:01:47
Speaker 11: it to the major league level, I just jumped in
3:01:49
Speaker 11: right away. And I had some guys like Jim Rice,
3:01:51
Speaker 11: Dwight Evans that really helped me out in the outfield. And,
3:01:56
Speaker 11: you know, I was just a part of a great team.
3:01:58
Speaker 11: you know, it was just one of those things I
3:02:00
Speaker 11: fit in quite well. So it was a lot of fun.
3:02:03
Speaker 21: 1996 was probably your best season in the big leagues
3:02:06
Speaker 21: with Colorado. You had 40 homers, 128 ribbies. Uh, you
3:02:12
Speaker 21: hit three 44 that year, almost won the batting title,
3:02:18
Speaker 21: but some guy by the name of Tony Gwynn ends
3:02:21
Speaker 21: up hitting three 53 to beat you out that season. Um,
3:02:25
Speaker 21: When you think about it, you scored 142 runs to
3:02:29
Speaker 21: lead the league. You led the league in a bunch.
3:02:31
Speaker 4: Of other categories, slugging percentage, extra base hits.
3:02:34
Speaker 21: When a season happens like that, does it go by
3:02:37
Speaker 21: too quickly?
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Speaker 11: Well, Bobby, let me just say this. You just had
3:02:40
Speaker 11: to bring up that point about the batting title.
3:02:43
Speaker 21: Well, Tony Gwynn, when you're in the same sentence with
3:02:46
Speaker 21: Tony Gwynn.
3:02:47
Speaker 11: Yeah, you're absolutely right. That was just an amazing season
3:02:50
Speaker 11: for me. You know, offensively, defensively, it was just one
3:02:53
Speaker 11: of those seasons you dream about. You know it's in you,
3:02:56
Speaker 11: but it finally came out. That was just everything went right.
3:03:00
Speaker 11: It was from day one, you know, all the way
3:03:03
Speaker 11: through the end of the season, I saw the pitches
3:03:07
Speaker 11: out of the pitcher's hand. I mean, when you can
3:03:10
Speaker 11: do that, you know you're going to have a successful year,
3:03:13
Speaker 11: and I did. I wish I could bottle that up
3:03:15
Speaker 11: and use it every year, but obviously it was just
3:03:18
Speaker 11: a once-in-a-lifetime type thing.
3:03:20
Speaker 21: You signed as a free agent with Cleveland in 2001,
3:03:23
Speaker 21: mostly as a DH, and have two great offensive seasons.
3:03:27
Speaker 21: You play for Charlie Manuel. The 2001 team wins 91 games.
3:03:33
Speaker 21: Your teammates with Jimmy Tomey and Robbie Alomar, Kenny Lofton, Omar.
3:03:37
Speaker 4: Talk about that club.
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Speaker 11: That was a great team. I was so happy to
3:03:43
Speaker 11: have an opportunity to come to Cleveland and play in
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Speaker 16: From Comerica Park in downtown Detroit, Michigan, it is game
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Speaker 16: number 49, as tonight the Cleveland Guardians start a seven-game
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Speaker 16: road trip with a four-game series here in Motown. And
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Speaker 16: about 40 minutes. which isn't bad, as we do have
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Speaker 16: nothing but overcast skies right now, but it does not
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Speaker 16: at least in the immediate future, but again, we're in
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Speaker 16: the Midwest, and as we know in Cleveland, the same
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Speaker 16: thing is very true here in Detroit. These storms can
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Speaker 16: some storms. And we had a doozy here before this ballgame.
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Speaker 16: And we've got right now overcast skies, but a pretty
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Speaker 16: stiff breeze that is blowing in from right field. But
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Speaker 16: it is still a decent temperature, and there is still
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Speaker 16: let's fill you in. Comerica Park has been the home
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Speaker 16: throw away from the Fox Theater District and not very
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Speaker 16: far from the brand-new arena. which is the home of
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Speaker 16: the Detroit Pistons and Detroit Red Wings. And that building
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Speaker 16: was hopping for about five minutes last night. And then
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Speaker 16: the street in Game 7. So congrats to the Cavaliers
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Speaker 16: organization as they're on to the Eastern Conference Finals beginning
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Speaker 16: with Game 1 tomorrow night in historic Madison Square Garden.
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Speaker 16: So Comerica Park. This was the first building here in
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Speaker 16: regards to the arena. Ford Field, the home of the
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Speaker 16: Detroit Lions, is just beyond this ballpark in the mammoth
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Speaker 16: video board and scoreboard, beyond the ballpark in left field,
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Speaker 16: and that is an enclosed football stadium. So all four
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Speaker 16: of the Detroit pro teams now play here in downtown
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Speaker 16: Detroit in all three buildings very close to each other.
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Speaker 16: This building opened up in 2000, and it seats right
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Speaker 16: around 41,000. They've done a lot of things with the dimensions.
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Speaker 16: Right now, it's 342 down the left field line. It
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Speaker 16: is 370 to left center. It is still 412 to
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Speaker 16: dead center, but that's even shorter than it once was.
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Speaker 16: It's 365 to right center, 330 down the right field line.
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Speaker 16: The wall has various heights and whatnot, but the wall,
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Speaker 16: for instance, in left field is not quite seven feet high,
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Speaker 16: and it's pretty much that way much of the ballpark.
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Speaker 16: And they used to have a higher wall out in
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Speaker 16: the right center. That wall is still there, but there's
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Speaker 16: another wall in front of it with a yellow line
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Speaker 16: that if you hit it over that yellow line, it
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Speaker 16: may bang off that back wall, but that would be
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Speaker 16: a home run. This ballpark is really nothing more than
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Speaker 16: a two-deck affair. There are two levels of suites that
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Speaker 16: hang from the upper deck, but it's just two decks
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Speaker 16: here from foul pole around home plate to foul pole
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Speaker 16: and then outfield seating in left and in right field.
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Speaker 16: And I'm sure the storm activity is going to keep
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Speaker 16: the crowd down a bit here tonight for the first
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Speaker 16: meeting of the year between these clubs. Cleveland in first
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Speaker 16: place in the Central. Of course, they've won. the Central
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Speaker 16: Division title, back-to-back years, last year in historic fashion. Cleveland 26-22,
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Speaker 16: one game ahead of the surprising Chicago White Sox. Detroit's
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Speaker 16: in last place with Kansas City. Both clubs five and
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Speaker 16: a half games behind Cleveland and Detroit record-wise, now 20-27,
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Speaker 16: and they have been reeling. The umpires tonight, Tom Hanahan
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Speaker 16: behind the plate. Ron Culpa's at first. He's also the
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Speaker 16: crew chief. Dylan Wilson at second. Manny Gonzalez is the
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Speaker 16: third base umpire. The problem in this series for Cleveland
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Speaker 16: starts tonight. A guy they have never, ever, ever beaten,
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Speaker 16: Frambois Valdez. Frambois Valdez, the last time Cleveland faced him,
3:12:50
Speaker 16: That was three years ago, and he threw a no-hitter
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Speaker 16: for the Houston Astros. Cleveland has not seen him since
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Speaker 16: he threw that no-hitter against Cleveland on August 1st of 2023.
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Speaker 16: He got a monster contract to sign here in February.
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Speaker 16: He's 5'11, 230, 32 years of age, and he basically
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Speaker 16: now is a sinker. He's also got the curveball, the slider,
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Speaker 16: and the changeup. Leading off, Angel Martinez, switch hitter batting right-handed.
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Speaker 16: The wind and tonight's first pitch, and it's in there,
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Speaker 16: a strike, and we're underway. 75 degrees, our game time temp.
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Speaker 16: Angel Martinez named the American League Player of the Week.
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Speaker 16: What a week he had. He punts at third base side,
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Speaker 16: it trickles foul. Good idea. Daniel Schneeman off tonight, so
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Speaker 16: Martinez hitting leadoff, and Stephen Kwan batting seventh. Martinez named
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Speaker 16: the American League Player of the Week, batting. 368 with
3:14:01
Speaker 16: four homers and seven RBIs.
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Speaker 23: That's a pretty good couple of weeks. He did it
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Speaker 23: in one.
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Speaker 16: Anil Martinez on the year, batting. 266, nine homers, 24
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Speaker 16: runs batted in. Valdez delivering, and a swing and a
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Speaker 16: little fly ball to left that Riley Green doesn't have
3:14:28
Speaker 16: to move on, and that is out number one. Cleveland
3:14:33
Speaker 16: has a lineup tonight that features six right-handed bats and
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Speaker 16: three left-handed bats, and ironically, even though he's left-handed, Valdez
3:14:46
Speaker 16: has been a tougher customer for the right-handed hitters because
3:14:52
Speaker 16: of that great change-up that he can really negate the
3:14:57
Speaker 16: left-handed bats with. Here's Jose Ramirez batting right-handed pitch in
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Speaker 16: the dirt for ball one. Jose Ramirez has thrived. The
3:15:07
Speaker 16: weekend series against the Reds is when he hit in
3:15:10
Speaker 16: the two-hole. He was on base 11 times in his
3:15:15
Speaker 16: 19 plate appearances. The 1-0 pitch. A swing and a
3:15:20
Speaker 16: shot foul down the third base side.
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Speaker 1: One and one.
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Speaker 16: And he'll stay in that two hole for the foreseeable future.
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Speaker 1: Just underway.
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Speaker 8: One out.
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Speaker 1: Nobody on. No score.
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Speaker 16: We were roughly 40 minutes late in getting started due
3:15:36
Speaker 16: to the rain delay. Valdez from the third base side
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Speaker 16: of the rubber.
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Speaker 23: He delivers.
3:15:44
Speaker 16: And it's downstairs a ball. And they count two and one.
3:15:48
Speaker 16: He'll throw that sinker like that one, 95 miles per hour.
3:15:53
Speaker 16: Frambois Valdez out of the Dominican Republic. Now the kick
3:15:59
Speaker 16: and delivery. Curveball waved at. That curveball of his this year,
3:16:05
Speaker 16: teams are batting 182 against it. His slider, teams are
3:16:11
Speaker 16: 1 for 10 against it. He doesn't throw the slider
3:16:14
Speaker 16: nearly as much as the curveball. Now the 2-2. Fouled
3:16:23
Speaker 16: it back and out of play. If you missed the
3:16:26
Speaker 16: manager's show, which was a long time ago, Stephen Vogt said, look,
3:16:31
Speaker 16: this guy is simply one of the best ground ball
3:16:34
Speaker 16: pitchers in the game. If Cleveland hits ground balls tonight,
3:16:38
Speaker 16: they lose. If they get the ball up in the air,
3:16:40
Speaker 16: they've got a chance to win. Down to 2-2. Curveball
3:16:46
Speaker 16: swung on. Broken bat fouled on the third base side.
3:16:50
Speaker 16: As Steven Vogt described it, everything Frambois Valdez throws is
3:16:57
Speaker 16: like a bowling ball. It's got that kind of heavy
3:17:00
Speaker 16: sinking action. The sinker, the curve, the slider, even the changeup.
3:17:05
Speaker 16: So you must try to bring him up in the
3:17:08
Speaker 16: strike zone. If you swing at the pitch down, he
3:17:11
Speaker 16: gets you to ground out, and he can make quick
3:17:14
Speaker 16: work of the lineup. Now, again, the 2-2. Swung on,
3:17:20
Speaker 16: lifted in the air to center, medium deep. Matt Veerling
3:17:24
Speaker 16: is camped under it, and is out number two. Riley
3:17:27
Speaker 16: Green is in left, Matt Veerling in center, and Wenzel
3:17:31
Speaker 16: Perez in right. Spencer Torkelson at first, Zach McKinstry at second.
3:17:37
Speaker 16: Zach Short at short. Kevin McGonigal, the phenom at third,
3:17:42
Speaker 16: and one of the best all-around catchers now in the game,
3:17:45
Speaker 16: the pride of Massillon, Dylan Dingler, behind the plate. Two outs,
3:17:50
Speaker 16: nobody on, no score. Here's Chase DeLauder hitting third again tonight.
3:17:55
Speaker 16: The rookie right fielder swings, bangs, and foul by coach
3:17:58
Speaker 16: Sandy Alomar at first. Ruggio Dore at third. Valdez is
3:18:04
Speaker 16: coming off. An outing against the Mets in which he
3:18:12
Speaker 16: gave up just two runs in six and two-thirds. The
3:18:15
Speaker 16: 0-1 pitch. Curveball down low, one and one. He's had
3:18:20
Speaker 16: two brutal outings. Minnesota scored eight runs off of him
3:18:24
Speaker 16: back in April. And a couple of starts ago, Boston
3:18:29
Speaker 16: scored ten runs off of him. Which is just hard
3:18:32
Speaker 16: to fathom.
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Speaker 1: Now the 1-1.
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Speaker 16: Fouled it back, a fastball, and the count one and two.
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Speaker 16: Two outs, nobody on base. No score, first inning at
3:18:45
Speaker 16: Comerica here in downtown Detroit, Michigan. On the year, Valdez
3:18:51
Speaker 16: two and two, ERA 432, tenth start, no complete game,
3:18:55
Speaker 16: six innings to start, eight strikeouts, three walks per nine.
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Speaker 16: The lefty lets it fly, and he threw it in
3:19:04
Speaker 16: the dirt. And it's a 2-2 count. Fromber Valdez. He
3:19:13
Speaker 16: did not have the kind of offseason he expected. Nobody
3:19:17
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3:19:21
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Speaker 23: The 2-2.
3:19:26
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3:19:31
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3:20:00
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3:20:04
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Speaker 16: Well, here come the Tigers to face Slade Ciccone. As
3:22:11
Speaker 16: we go now to the bottom of the first inning,
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Speaker 16: no score. The right-hander facing the left-handed hitting Colt Keith
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Speaker 16: and the DH from Ohio takes up and away.
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Speaker 1: Ball one. Ciccone, 6'4, 230.
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Speaker 16: 26 years of age, fastball sinker, cutter, curve, slider. Colt
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Speaker 16: Keith batting 295, 6 RBIs for the Ohio native. Down
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Speaker 16: to 1-0, and he sends one back and out of play, 1-1.
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Speaker 16: Must be something about Ohio and the name Colt. Another
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Speaker 16: highly prized prospect from Ohio, Colt Emerson, just brought up
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Speaker 16: to the Seattle Mariners. Now the 1-1. Swing and a
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Speaker 16: jam job. Popped up to third. Jose Ramirez drifting into
3:23:03
Speaker 16: shallow left near the line.
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Speaker 1: And that is out number one. Slade Ciccone.
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Speaker 16: This is his third ever start against Detroit. 1-1 with
3:23:15
Speaker 16: a 2.25 ERA. Angel Martinez in left. Stephen Kwan in center.
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Speaker 16: Chase DeLauder in right. Reese Hoskins at first. Travis Bazzana
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Speaker 16: at second, Brian Rocchio at short, Jose Ramirez at third,
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Speaker 16: Austin Hedges doing the catching. Ciccone against Kevin McGonigal, and
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Speaker 16: McGonigal pops one up. Third base side, drifting towards the
3:23:40
Speaker 16: lower deck and out of play. This young man, one
3:23:43
Speaker 16: of the best prospects in baseball, and even though he's
3:23:47
Speaker 16: had a number of injuries in the minor leagues, he
3:23:51
Speaker 16: only spent three years in the Tigers' minor league system.
3:23:56
Speaker 16: Never spent a day in AAA Toledo. He's only played
3:24:00
Speaker 16: 46 games in AA.
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Speaker 23: And here he is.
3:24:04
Speaker 16: The pitch to the left-handed batter, and it's in there
3:24:07
Speaker 16: a strike. Most think his future's at second. Right now
3:24:13
Speaker 16: he's playing third. He can also play short. And as
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Speaker 16: a rookie, batting.
3:24:18
Speaker 1: 290 with an.
3:24:19
Speaker 20: 814 OPS.
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Speaker 16: Now the pitch. And he rips one into right field
3:24:26
Speaker 16: of Asit. Diving attempt by Bazan and the ball ticked
3:24:29
Speaker 16: off his glove but still got into right field. McGonigal
3:24:34
Speaker 16: can run too. Seven for seven and steals. Tigers don't
3:24:38
Speaker 16: run a bunch, but he does. Boy, it's amazing how
3:24:45
Speaker 16: many really good-looking rookies we have in baseball right now.
3:24:51
Speaker 16: Of course, Cleveland's playing... Two of them tonight in Chase
3:24:55
Speaker 16: DeLauder and Travis Pisano. Here's another Ohio native. Dylan Dingler
3:25:02
Speaker 16: out of Massillon-Jackson High School. Sends one in the air foul.
3:25:06
Speaker 16: First base side out of play. Dylan Dingler batting. 252.
3:25:11
Speaker 16: Eight homers, 28 runs batted in. And now hitting third
3:25:17
Speaker 16: in the Tiger lineup because he's leading them in home runs.
3:25:20
Speaker 1: He's leading them. in RBIs.
3:25:25
Speaker 16: And he's such a good defensive catcher as well. He's
3:25:28
Speaker 16: the whole package. He's already won a gold glove for
3:25:33
Speaker 16: his catching prowess.
3:25:35
Speaker 23: Righty, righty.
3:25:36
Speaker 16: And the pitch, check, swing, strike called. And they count
3:25:40
Speaker 16: nothing in two. Tigers are really struggling with the bats.
3:25:46
Speaker 16: They've lost 10 out of their last 12 games. And
3:25:50
Speaker 16: that's Really two-fold. They've had terrible starting pitching, but they
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Speaker 16: can't score.
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Speaker 1: The pitch. Swung on.
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Speaker 16: A weak bouncer to short. Roque at a second.
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Speaker 3: One.
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Speaker 1: Bazana.
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Speaker 16: Wide throw, and he pulled Hoskins off the bag. Bazana's
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Speaker 16: had some throwing issues since we've seen him come up.
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Speaker 16: Not horrific, but he kind of threw that one sidearm,
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Speaker 16: and that ball really tailed on him. Pulled Hoskins off
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Speaker 16: the bag. I'm not sure a good throw gets him.
3:26:21
Speaker 16: but we'll never know. It would have been bang, bang.
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Speaker 16: So McGonigal is forced out at second. Dylan Dingler, who
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Speaker 16: didn't hit the ball very hard, is on at first.
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Speaker 16: Two down, here's Riley Green, the left fielder. Left-handed batter
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Speaker 16: taking a ball down low.
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Speaker 23: The Tigers..
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Speaker 16: In losing 10 out of 12 they have scored 30
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Speaker 16: runs in their last 12 games that's two and a
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Speaker 16: half runs a game The 1-0. Swung on and this
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Speaker 16: is hammered to deep right center and almost on cue.
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Speaker 16: A ball that is off the wall. Relay throw to
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Speaker 16: the plate. Sliding in is Dingler. I think this might
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Speaker 16: be challenged as a home run. Boy, that ball was
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Speaker 16: close to being over the yellow line in right center.
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Speaker 16: Did it hit off the first wall or the back wall?
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Speaker 16: No argument from the Tigers. So Riley Green with a
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Speaker 16: two-out RBI double has put Detroit on top one to nothing.
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Speaker 16: I think when Riley Green hit it, he thought it
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Speaker 16: was long gone. And based on the replay we have,
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Speaker 16: no idea. So here is Spencer Torkelson. Runner at second,
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Speaker 16: two down, 1-0 Detroit. Right hand to batter, and he
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Speaker 16: bangs one up the middle. To his left, Rocio Gloves
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Speaker 16: spinning throw in the dirt.
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Speaker 9: Got him!
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Speaker 16: Hoskins, good stretch, caught the one-hop throw. What a play
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Speaker 16: by Rocio going up the middle. To his left, grabbed it,
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Speaker 16: did that. Absolutely beautiful spin and throw. And that's a
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Speaker 16: big-time play to end the inning. 1-0 Tigers after 1
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Speaker 16: on the Cleveland Clinic Radio Network.