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Jeff Legwold previews Broncos vs Seahawks tonight with ML&K 10-15-26 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: Altitude Sports Radio 92.5's Pro Football Insider.
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  Speaker 2: I know what my eyes tell me.
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  Speaker 3: Jeff Legwald.
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  Speaker 4: I look at it a lot and I ask a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: Brought to you by the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers.
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  Speaker 1: Start with a job, end with a career. IBEW Local 68.
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  Speaker 1: It's Leggy.
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  Speaker 5: Jeff, Jeff, Jeff.
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  Speaker 1: On Altitude Sports Radio 92.5.
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  Speaker 5: Squad to the Ramos Law Hotline. Car accident, you need
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  Speaker 5: Ramos Law. Medical doctor and attorney, RamosLaw.com. Jeff Legwald of ESPN.com
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  Speaker 5: joins us as he does every Thursday.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, Leggy.
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  Speaker 2: Morning, fellas.
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  Speaker 6: All right, let's go back before we go forward tonight.
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  Speaker 6: The Chargers game.
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  Speaker 5: We've heard the reaction from Bo Nix and it sounds
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  Speaker 5: like he's in one right now. How much of this
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  Speaker 5: do you think is purely mental from Bo Nix on
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  Speaker 5: the struggles offensively? How much of this is just a
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  Speaker 5: talent and physical thing?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I guess I'd say it ain't all him.
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  Speaker 4: He just gets the, you know, welcome to the world
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  Speaker 4: of quarterbacks in the NFL. You are, you are the
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  Speaker 4: hub of the wheel, criticism, praise, you know, glory yeah
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  Speaker 4: grouchiness all of it you're in there but i mean
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  Speaker 4: you know i think you're looking at you know you
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  Speaker 4: see this a lot with with guys in the nfl
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  Speaker 4: you know success has been such a big part of
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  Speaker 4: their athletic life you know as they get to the
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  Speaker 4: nfl and life was pretty good for bow nicks as
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  Speaker 4: a young quarterback you know he had you know his
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  Speaker 4: rookie year was kind of gravy They were surprisingly better.
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  Speaker 2: Than people thought.
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  Speaker 4: They were finishing the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: They make the wild card round.
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  Speaker 4: He has some comeback wins and makes some plays off
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  Speaker 4: schedule and all of those things. I think this is
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  Speaker 4: kind of like his NFL version of Auburn right now.
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  Speaker 4: He's taken a lot of heat, and it's hard to
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  Speaker 4: know what to do with that unless you've been through it.
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  Speaker 4: And this is kind of his first trick through it
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  Speaker 4: in the NFL at this level. But mechanically, there's some
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  Speaker 4: issues there.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, it's up to him and the Broncos.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they've got a, you know, the largest coaching
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  Speaker 4: staff in the NFL. And, you know, they got some
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  Speaker 4: things to do with the quarterback, but the protection hasn't
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  Speaker 4: always been great. They don't run the ball that great. And,
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  Speaker 4: you know, when On plays where Nix does have some time,
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  Speaker 4: the receivers don't always get separation or the route concepts
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  Speaker 4: don't give him many options sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: So I think it is.
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  Speaker 4: Truly a collective struggle right now, and he's taking a
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  Speaker 4: lot of the heat. I think it's probably not fun
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  Speaker 4: for him right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Jeffrey, you've been around a long time. Long time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a really long time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Anciently long. Do you recall before, before the internet, before
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  Speaker 2: the internet? Yeah, that's for sure. How about that?
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  Speaker 3: See, if I said that you'd be all over me,
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  Speaker 3: but Vic says that you just play with love. Cause
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  Speaker 3: I'm just as old as he is.
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  Speaker 5: That's why.
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  Speaker 3: Do you recall a press conference like the one Bo
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  Speaker 3: had earlier this week that displayed such vulnerability?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he's, he's trying to be as honest
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  Speaker 2: as he can.
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  Speaker 4: And you don't often see that, you know, these days
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  Speaker 4: in such a public forum, uh, And then, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I see, and then he takes some heat, you know,
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  Speaker 4: people clip it. And, you know, I've mentioned some things,
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  Speaker 4: you know, myself that struck me what he said, but
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  Speaker 4: I sort of, you know, it's watching him try and
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  Speaker 4: figure out sort of what to say, how to explain
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  Speaker 4: it and like convey in some fashion how he feels
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  Speaker 4: about it without just sort of unloading on on everything
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  Speaker 4: I think is a, is a hard line for him
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  Speaker 4: to walk, but he's, you know, the last two weeks,
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  Speaker 4: I think he's, you know, you can see it, it
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  Speaker 4: is weighing on his mind and that's a hard way
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  Speaker 4: to play, frankly.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. Brock Huard was on with the morning sprint yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: He talked about what he gleaned from the comments from
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  Speaker 5: Bo Nix and, So I'm going to play this for you.
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  Speaker 6: Just get your reaction to it. Here's Brock Huard.
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  Speaker 7: This morning on the show, we spent a segment playing
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  Speaker 7: the 60 seconds of Bo Nix yesterday versus about 25
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  Speaker 7: seconds of Sam Darnold. And they were both reacting to
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  Speaker 7: the same thing. Turnovers, right? Getting the ball out of
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  Speaker 7: your hand. What are you seeing? And for Bo, it
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  Speaker 7: was fascinating. I think it was such a window in
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  Speaker 7: to what ended my NFL career. I could not turn
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  Speaker 7: the voices off.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't do it.
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  Speaker 7: When I got to the NFL, it was Mike Holmgren's voice.
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  Speaker 7: It was just Tom Moore's voice. Very different voices, but
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  Speaker 7: their voices. I couldn't shut them out. I got to
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  Speaker 7: do this.
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  Speaker 2: I got to do this.
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  Speaker 6: What do you think about that, his assessment?
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  Speaker 4: I think you can see a lot of that in both,
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  Speaker 4: but whenever you see a quarterback struggle with where to
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  Speaker 4: go with the ball and passing open receivers and leaving
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  Speaker 4: clean pockets, those are all usually a guy working through
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  Speaker 4: the long list of things he's been told. Now, you know,
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  Speaker 4: that said, Sean Payton even made it a point and
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  Speaker 4: has made it a point the last two seasons to say,
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  Speaker 4: you have to be careful how much you tell that position.
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  Speaker 4: So I think he recognizes and it's basically admitting what's
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  Speaker 4: going on. But, you know, again, I, look, it's a
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  Speaker 4: highly paid profession. You get a lot of, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I always say the richer you get, the more free
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  Speaker 4: stuff people want to give you. And so it's, it's
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  Speaker 4: a good life out there in the land of NFL quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 4: But the other side of the coin is you are
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  Speaker 4: talking about a 20 something person, you know, trying to
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  Speaker 4: work through all this in a really public forum, you know,
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  Speaker 4: When I was 26, screwing up at work, I didn't
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  Speaker 4: have to explain to anybody except my sports editor and
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  Speaker 4: the 10 people who wrote me letters to tell me
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  Speaker 4: I sucked. But he's doing it in real time in
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  Speaker 4: front of everybody. Look, that's part of the gig. You
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  Speaker 4: sign up for that. And I get that. But we
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  Speaker 4: are seeing a young guy really struggle with a very
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  Speaker 4: public way of kind of learning the position. But I
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  Speaker 4: think sometimes we look past the fact the simple solutions.
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  Speaker 2: Are really the solutions.
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  Speaker 4: We always want to complicate everything.
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  Speaker 2: If he would fix his footwork and.
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  Speaker 4: They would, you know, again, I'm going to, I'll collapse
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  Speaker 4: on this hill, but if they would just put him
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  Speaker 4: under center, His footwork is much better under center because
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  Speaker 4: he has to think about playing quarterback. When he's in
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  Speaker 4: the gun, it's high school again. Drop my arm angle,
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  Speaker 4: fade away. You know, it's all about the athletic sort
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  Speaker 4: of feel of playing quarterback. When he's under center, he
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  Speaker 4: has to think about playing quarterback and going through his progressions.
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  Speaker 4: But that's not what we do. in the modern NFL.
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  Speaker 4: They all come up playing the gun and they all
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  Speaker 4: want to leave them in the gun. But I learned
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  Speaker 4: a lot from watching an awful lot of film with
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  Speaker 4: Gary Kubiak and Mike Shanahan. And I believe if you
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  Speaker 4: want to fix a quarterback, put them under center and
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  Speaker 4: it gets fixed.
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  Speaker 3: Great story today from you on Jalen Waddle. Is that today?
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  Speaker 3: When did it first come out?
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  Speaker 2: I think it was this morning.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this morning. And I read through it. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: how long does it take you to write an article
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  Speaker 3: like that? Because that was longer than like a typical
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  Speaker 3: midweek something or other.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm efficient, Moshe.
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  Speaker 4: I get it done. It doesn't take me a ton
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  Speaker 4: of time. It takes me longer to research and talk
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  Speaker 4: to everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. That being said, Jeff, is there any threat? And
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  Speaker 3: there's a number of different reasons, and I saw Sean
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  Speaker 3: Payton's comments. Like, we need to fix a lot of things.
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  Speaker 3: Is there any possibility as this season goes on, it's
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  Speaker 3: still early, that this becomes a bust of an acquisition?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, how much is on him? How much is
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  Speaker 3: this on a putrid offense right now?
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's an awfully good player.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I just find if you got to hand
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  Speaker 4: him the ball, hand him the ball.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? If you got to throw
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  Speaker 2: it two feet, throw it two feet.
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  Speaker 4: I was shocked, honestly, when I went through everything to
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  Speaker 4: do this story.
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  Speaker 2: I recharted all the plays. I talked to.
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  Speaker 4: several coaches around the league to make sure I wasn't
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  Speaker 4: seeing things. But the fact the only route in the
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  Speaker 4: route tree where Bo Nix has like one of the
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  Speaker 4: league's best QBR, which is a metric like passer rating,
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  Speaker 4: but is on crossing routes. It's also the route they've
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  Speaker 4: thrown the least this year. So I cannot understand why
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  Speaker 4: the one thing your quarterback has done well is the
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  Speaker 4: one thing you're not doing. Jalen Waddell has two catches
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  Speaker 4: on crossing routes this year.
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  Speaker 3: Is that because he's not throwing it?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I see an awful lot of plays where
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  Speaker 4: there's no intermediate receiver, which I also don't get, and
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  Speaker 4: I keep asking, and I don't get much of an answer.
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  Speaker 4: But it's unrecognizable to me that maybe the best catcher
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  Speaker 4: one of the best catch and run receivers in the
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  Speaker 4: league has caught two passes on crossing routes this year.
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  Speaker 4: And that just tells me how much is, is sort
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  Speaker 4: of disjointed in the offense when they've got all these
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  Speaker 4: numbers and they got a staff of, you know, 30
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  Speaker 4: people breaking it down. It's impossible for me to think
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  Speaker 4: they don't know. Bo Nix has a 98 QBR on
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  Speaker 4: a crossing route and they won't throw them.
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  Speaker 1: Hmm.
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  Speaker 6: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 5: Jeff Legbaugh with us, all conversations with Leggy, brought to
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  Speaker 5: you by the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, IBEW, Local 68.
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  Speaker 5: Start with a job and with a career.
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  Speaker 3: I bet you were up all night writing that article.
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  Speaker 3: Probably took you all night long.
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  Speaker 2: I take it easy. I take it slow.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: You know what's crazy, Leggy? We talked to Ian Furness yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: He's a radio host up in Seattle. And he started
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  Speaker 5: describing Seattle's team right now. And he goes, well, got
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  Speaker 5: a quarterback that doesn't look very confident, that's turning the
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  Speaker 5: ball over a lot in Sam Darnold. And they can't
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  Speaker 5: run the football, and their defense gives up yards, but
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  Speaker 5: not a lot of points. And he kept going, like,
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  Speaker 5: point by point through the Seahawks, and.
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  Speaker 6: They go, that's my team. That's the team that we
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  Speaker 6: watch every week, too.
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  Speaker 5: How similar are the Seahawks and the Broncos to each other?
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  Speaker 4: Well, very similar, because they're both defensive-fueled teams right now.
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  Speaker 2: Any success they've had.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the only reason the Broncos beat a terrible
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  Speaker 4: Chargers team is on the last five possessions by the Chargers,
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  Speaker 4: the defense allowed 19 yards in five possessions and turned
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  Speaker 4: the ball over twice and forced a fourth down. You know,
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  Speaker 4: they held on fourth down on another one. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: so they're very similar right now.
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  Speaker 6: Going back to that, though, Leggy, were you.
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  Speaker 4: I will say Seattle has Jackson, Smith, and Jigba, so
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  Speaker 4: that's a whole different other thing.
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  Speaker 6: Were you blown away when Harbaugh went for it on
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  Speaker 6: fourth down?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I didn't understand it.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I get the, you know, you're 0-4, who
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  Speaker 4: cares type thing, you know, trying to spark the team.
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  Speaker 4: But in that moment with the momentum at that point,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the game turned right there, you know, the
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  Speaker 4: minute the Broncos held them. But I don't think enough
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  Speaker 4: of us have talked about the last five Charger possessions,
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  Speaker 4: the Broncos defense gave up 19 yards.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 4: And they gave the offense the ball inside the Chargers
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  Speaker 4: 50 on all of those.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. That's why the defense won the game.
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  Speaker 2: They've won them a lot of games.
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  Speaker 6: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And whatever adjustments they need to make tonight, they could
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  Speaker 3: be without three defensive backs tonight, three.
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  Speaker 2: Starting defensive backs.
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  Speaker 4: Smith and Jigba is going to be a problem. You know,
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  Speaker 4: he's leading the NFL in yards per game. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I think he's tied for the, the touchdown lead and
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  Speaker 4: he's third in yards per target and everybody knows he's
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  Speaker 4: getting the ball and it still doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 5: Do you, could you apply like a Joker, you know,
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  Speaker 5: when Jokic is on one of his heaters and the
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  Speaker 5: opposing defense just goes, you know what, then score 50
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  Speaker 5: tonight and I'm going to stop everybody else.
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  Speaker 6: Could the Broncos do that with JSN?
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  Speaker 3: Are you nuts? What?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I think what, I think what you're trying
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  Speaker 4: to do is, is I would expect them to bracket
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  Speaker 4: them and try and limit, limit the damage. You know,
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  Speaker 4: maybe he finishes with 130 yards, but no touchdowns. That's
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  Speaker 4: kind of what you're looking for because he's getting the ball.
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  Speaker 4: He wins the rep right at the snap. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: his release is elite. You know, his footwork is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 4: He leverages defensive backs with just the innate feel.
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  Speaker 2: That the great receivers have.
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  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I mean, it's, I think, you know, Like,
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  Speaker 4: he has 145, but no touchdowns.
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  Speaker 2: I think they'd be more than happy with a night
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  Speaker 2: like that.
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  Speaker 6: Jeff Legwald, ESPN.com, joins us every single Thursday. Always appreciate it, Leggy.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thanks, fellas. We'll see you.
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  Speaker 6: Jeff Legwald.
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  Speaker 5: Don't forget, Mile High postgame tonight after the Broncos-Seahawks. Instant reaction, analysis,
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  Speaker 5: and plenty of opinions. LG, Vic, DMACC, myself. You'll watch
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  Speaker 5: on Altitude TV or listen right here on 92.5.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Vic, I got a wonderful idea. How about we
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  Speaker 3: just let him get 287 yards receiving and five touches,
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  Speaker 3: but as long as nobody else gets anything. This was
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  Speaker 3: Brett's idea. This was Brett's idea. Here, I got an idea, guys.
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  Speaker 3: I got an idea. Let's let JSN have seven touchdowns.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, let's not cover him at all. Let's just
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  Speaker 3: go 11 on 10. Let him open. Let him do
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  Speaker 3: whatever he wants. Did you even realize what comes out
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  Speaker 3: of your face? Do you have any idea what you're saying?
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  Speaker 6: Do you know how sports work? Yeah, I know how
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  Speaker 6: sports work. No, apparently you don't, bro, because that was
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  Speaker 6: really dumb.
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  Speaker 5: My suggestion wasn't nobody stands in front of Jackson Smith
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  Speaker 5: and Jigba. It would be, instead of selling out to
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  Speaker 5: stop him, sell out to stop everything else and rely
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  Speaker 5: more on one-on-one coverage.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe let Jadé Barron have a crack at him. And
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  Speaker 6: see if he's worth the salt.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, man, on tomorrow night. Let's take their greatest weapon
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  Speaker 3: and be really soft on him. Let's let Sidney Crosby
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  Speaker 3: have a hat trick. But as long as nobody else
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  Speaker 3: scores anything.
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  Speaker 5: Why do you guys assume that if you don't have
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  Speaker 5: him double covered every single play that he's going to
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  Speaker 5: have 15 touchdowns tonight?
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  Speaker 3: Because he's a stud.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 3: Who cares?
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  Speaker 6: By the way, did you ask Lakewald, is Jalen Waddle
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  Speaker 6: a bust? Is that what you asked?
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  Speaker 3: No, I said, what's the potential of this acquisition becoming
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  Speaker 3: a bust as the season goes on? Because if you
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  Speaker 3: read his article, it's very good. And it's not all
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  Speaker 3: on Nixon, Payton, and everything else. It's also on Waddle
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  Speaker 3: himself a little bit. You got to use him. You
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  Speaker 3: got to use him. Yeah, but the first paragraph was
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  Speaker 3: referring to the ripped off helmet and the frustration.
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  Speaker 2: You know what's funny?
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  Speaker 5: The Broncos, two of their first-round picks that they've used
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  Speaker 5: over the last few years, one of them's on Jalen Waddell,
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  Speaker 5: who they refused to get the football. The other one's
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  Speaker 5: on Jadé Barron, who did not play at all up
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  Speaker 5: until a week ago.
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  Speaker 3: It's really weird.
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  Speaker 6: Two first-rounders.