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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, November 2 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, November two. This is Checkuars Happy Hour,
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now
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  Speaker 1: that guy who goes through life shaken not stirred, Jay
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  Speaker 1: Peace Shadraw Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday.
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  Speaker 1: Headed into week number nine, Number nine, Number nine. The
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  Speaker 1: Jags get the Texans this week at t I A.
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  Speaker 1: Bank Field. Plenty to get to on the show, Prisco
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  Speaker 1: and Boselli coming up. Minshew injured and out this week.
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  Speaker 1: Jake Luton will get the starter reps in practice and
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  Speaker 1: play against the Texans. Dug Moron today said Mike Lennon
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  Speaker 1: should be ready as well defense facing Deshaun Watson this
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  Speaker 1: week and the Texans, and we'll get to your social
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  Speaker 1: questions will go around the See South, the National Football League,
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  Speaker 1: and the not so powerful rankings that we promised last week.
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  Speaker 1: We will get to those as well. Let's hear from
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  Speaker 1: head coach Doug Morone today he spoke with the media
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  Speaker 1: for the first time since the bye week. Gardner Minshew
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  Speaker 1: is out, Jake Lewton will get the reps. It's gonna
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  Speaker 1: start with these practices each day and preparation and you
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  Speaker 1: know all that, and I think I think we'll all
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  Speaker 1: we'll all know, we'll know it when we see it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything that's um um I opening,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just going there and see if you can operate,
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  Speaker 1: and see how he plays against the live rush. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how he plays, you know, with a without
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  Speaker 1: a live rush. You know, he's done some good things,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sure it will be some things that he
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  Speaker 1: wants to take back. And you just hope the good
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  Speaker 1: plays are good and the bad plays don't kill you.
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  Speaker 1: I think that the truth. Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli joining
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  Speaker 1: us now on Jaguar's Happy Hour. How about that out everything?
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited. Oh my god, By the way, we got
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback change. If he plays well, he plays well,
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  Speaker 1: if you gotta right, my god, what was that that? Sorry?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't mean to laugh, but I couldn't read. Um. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean Jake Lutenine baby and Doug did I mean
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  Speaker 1: one thing he said? It wasn't with a lot of enthusiasm.
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  Speaker 1: He's right, you have no idea what this kid could do.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, think about what we saw last night. And
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  Speaker 1: Bend Nucci, who is the seventh round pick, third string quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: had no reps, barely any reps in camp, probably no
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  Speaker 1: O T A s at all, no preseason snaps, getting
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  Speaker 1: limited reps all of uh in practice and preparation for
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  Speaker 1: the early season games. At least he got some more
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  Speaker 1: reps because he was the backup one week behind Andy Dalton.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Jake Luton has had no reps. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: tell me last time, Pete. I mean, you know the
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  Speaker 1: NFL works. He worked with the first team offense um
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  Speaker 1: before this week. Never never, like he's never had a rep.
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  Speaker 1: Not preparing for the game plan. I mean he's in
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  Speaker 1: the meetings, but he's running scout team. He's the third quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: He is not getting any real reps until this week.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, they're off today or maybe they
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  Speaker 1: came in today, they're off tomorrow. They have like two
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  Speaker 1: days the full like on the field prep. They have
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  Speaker 1: to be off tomorrow. It's my point. And they were
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  Speaker 1: all they were out all last week. They didn't work
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  Speaker 1: at all during I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure the
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  Speaker 1: new CBA, you're not like the whole week's off. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think they were on the field. I think there
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  Speaker 1: were meetings earlier in the week. Yes, meetings, but come on,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we're asking this kid. You're not asking what
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  Speaker 1: are you asking him to do? He can't expect anything
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  Speaker 1: from him. Whatever you get is great point, that's my point.
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  Speaker 1: But it's better than starting. Mike Glenn, I don't disagree
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  Speaker 1: with you, Pete. I'm just saying as much as like,
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  Speaker 1: I think maybe Doug could have shown a little more
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  Speaker 1: enthusiasm at the press conference. But he's right, like what
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  Speaker 1: you like, like you hope the good ones are good,
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  Speaker 1: the bad ones don't kill you know, he's right, looks
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  Speaker 1: it almost looks like he was forced to start him,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't I don't know. I'm not diving into that. Who knows,
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  Speaker 1: but that okay, on the surface, looking at it, didn't
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  Speaker 1: look that way, Tony. I'm not gonna say because I
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  Speaker 1: know Doug well enough. There's some days he just shows
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  Speaker 1: up and he's like a little melancholy, just like right whatever,
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  Speaker 1: Like he's looked to me, he looked tired, but he
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  Speaker 1: had a bye week. He should have come back revitalized. Well,
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  Speaker 1: they were digging deep into stuff. Come on, now, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's probably I mean you heard what he said before,
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  Speaker 1: Like JP worse the enthusiast. Remember he said, like before
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  Speaker 1: the bye week, he's excited, dive deep, do crazy blank stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Where where did that something happened in the office bye
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  Speaker 1: week where all that crazy blank stuffing was gonna do that? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was that was as the whole time
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  Speaker 1: he's been there, ever watched. That might have been the
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  Speaker 1: worst one of all of them in terms of enthusiasm. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean consider where they are right now.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the starting quarterback had a hurt thumb apparently
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  Speaker 1: for a little while. Uh, they've lost six straight games
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  Speaker 1: going into the bye week. Now they got to put
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  Speaker 1: out a rookie quarterback who they didn't have any offseason
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  Speaker 1: program to work with. They don't have to. They're choosing,
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  Speaker 1: to be clear, they can start a guy who started
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  Speaker 1: NFL games if they wanted to. I'm not saying they should,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, I'm fine. I'm agreeing with Pete that. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: Luton's like, find out what you having the kid? I
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  Speaker 1: mean time table just got fed up that ball he
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  Speaker 1: was going in there in a couple of weeks anyway,
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  Speaker 1: But they very easily could have started Mike Glennon one
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  Speaker 1: week and say let's give I'm beat, but I'm responding
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  Speaker 1: with JP says they had to do this. They didn't
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  Speaker 1: have to do it. They could have gone with the
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  Speaker 1: veteran guy who started football games before in the NFL
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  Speaker 1: and knows what to expect and like has some understanding
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  Speaker 1: of what's going to happen on the field when some
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  Speaker 1: big defense evans hitting him in the mouth. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this kid has no idea. Now, he might be great.
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  Speaker 1: He can throw it, he can spend it, all those
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  Speaker 1: different things, but what happens when it's real out there,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, thank god, thank god the Texans
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  Speaker 1: can't rush the passer. I mean, look what find out
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  Speaker 1: what he isn't let him play. Yeah, it might not
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  Speaker 1: look good, but so what I mean it doesn't. Again,
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  Speaker 1: it's all about evaluation. That's all this season is about.
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  Speaker 1: That's all the rest of the season is about. In value. Evaluation.
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  Speaker 1: Not you're eleven wins to go to the playoffs, nothing
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  Speaker 1: but evaluation. It's officially off the table mathematically. Yeah, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, what if he plays well, then good? Right?
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  Speaker 1: What if he's what if he's good? Describe good? Like
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  Speaker 1: justin Herbert looking winging it all over the field, big
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  Speaker 1: guy can can do all those things and what athlete around. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was pretty good. He's pretty good. He's not terrible.
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  Speaker 1: He's not like the Herbert. I'm telling you the kid
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  Speaker 1: can throw it. If you watched Organs they play I
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  Speaker 1: did it twenty eight touchdowns, three interceptions last year and
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  Speaker 1: the senior year by the way, Yeah, he could throw it.
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  Speaker 1: And I heard he now I heard from people there
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  Speaker 1: that he looked pretty good throw it in the summer
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  Speaker 1: and the off season and training camp, the open practices
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  Speaker 1: that it turned some heads at least when we were
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  Speaker 1: out there. So it's like time out, you're not getting hit.
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  Speaker 1: I get that. But we also if you remember back,
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  Speaker 1: I remember Blaine Gabbert during training camp, you ever was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, she is the best quarterback we've ever
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  Speaker 1: seen until zipping him in there, and then all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden like oh that he was ducking and chucking
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  Speaker 1: and ducking. It's a different story. So I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's I mean, but to your questions,
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  Speaker 1: so you're asking me, does that change me wanting to
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  Speaker 1: pick a court, like, so what does he play the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the way, And he looks like justin Herbert. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: how many games do they win? Well, how many's Justin Herbert? One?
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  Speaker 1: He's only one one Jaguars, right, do they know that
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  Speaker 1: they have their guys? Yeah? But okay, but they're scoring
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of points doing it. Are a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: points and they win one game and he looks like
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  Speaker 1: Ustin Herbert, do you need a quarterback? Who's what number?
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  Speaker 1: My picking? Well, if you win one more game, you
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  Speaker 1: might not be pigging too. Okay, but if I'm picking
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  Speaker 1: you too, I'm still probably taking one of the Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I would probably do. But it's nice to find out
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  Speaker 1: what the kid has. It could be a total disaster.
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  Speaker 1: But Joe, go find out thrown around and don't make
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  Speaker 1: him turn the hand off the first and second down
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  Speaker 1: and then ask him to go make a play on
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  Speaker 1: third down. Let him play because you're not loses that
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  Speaker 1: wins and lasses don't matter. Yeah they do, Yes, they do.
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  Speaker 1: You play to win the game. The losses matter. Keep
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  Speaker 1: keep piling those up and maybe God, God help you.
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  Speaker 1: The Sam darn Old will get a win somewhere. But
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  Speaker 1: don't the Jets have to win two because of strength
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  Speaker 1: and schedule. Who is it at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Who's having easier schedule, the Jets or the dag Wars. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the Texans will help because they still Yeah, we can
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  Speaker 1: go through this a little later in the program in
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  Speaker 1: are not so powerful rankings that we have in the
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  Speaker 1: second hour. How about that we can do that. We
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  Speaker 1: get a whole segment dedicated tonight. Okay, and whatever you
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  Speaker 1: want to do. I'm just saying, Um, I hope he's good. Pete.
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  Speaker 1: Let's let's set expectations. What are your expectations for Jake
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  Speaker 1: Luton in this game against the Texans. This will be
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  Speaker 1: the easiest defense, the worst defensive faces. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 1: got the Vikings. They're pretty bad on defense too. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but there I think the Texans are the worst. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Texans are bad. Uh, the Titans are pretty bad defends.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Um, what do I expect throw for
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  Speaker 1: two forty two and one? That would first start? Now
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  Speaker 1: the next start, it's got to be three D And
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna prove all of a sudden Herbert does it
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  Speaker 1: every game, right, That's what I'm saying. Is gonna throw
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  Speaker 1: up like eight thousand yards this first year and look
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  Speaker 1: good doing it if you can look at it and
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  Speaker 1: see it and say forgetting the yard, because we've seen guys. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's when you get them, like I'm not interested in
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  Speaker 1: like yards in the fourth quarter, when they're down four touchdowns,
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  Speaker 1: when you get them, it's and your eyes will tell you.
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  Speaker 1: Your eyes will tell you in two weeks, three weeks,
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  Speaker 1: your eyes will tell you if he's any good or not. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe in a maybe in a quarter, we'll find out
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  Speaker 1: if he's good or not in that game Sunday, let's
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  Speaker 1: come back in a moment. Plenty of quarterback talk still
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  Speaker 1: to come. We'll get into the defense when we come back,
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  Speaker 1: and some a couple of guys that stood out in
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  Speaker 1: the s stood out in a very minimal way for
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  Speaker 1: a defensive struggling right now last weekend. Some guys that
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  Speaker 1: could be back on the field this week for the Jags.
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  Speaker 1: head coach? Doug Morone talking about the crazy stuff? He
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  Speaker 1: was asked about it today. What changes he talking about?
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  Speaker 1: Besides the quarterback? That's that's that was his answer to
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  Speaker 1: what kind of crazy stuff did you have in mind? Doug?
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  Speaker 1: That was his answer today. So he didn't delve too
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  Speaker 1: uh too deep into it all the way around. Now,
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  Speaker 1: like he was having fun today. That was not a
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  Speaker 1: good fun pine for Don today. Cracking jokes about poloni sandwiches.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't happen tonight. That didn't happen. That did not happen today. No, No,
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  Speaker 1: And what changes are they talking about? Like, I'm with Tony,
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  Speaker 1: what what are you doing? You're gonna wear your socks lower?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what what? What? What are the changes? Well?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I will remember they got rid of
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  Speaker 1: the fullback. That's one change that happened this week. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if that's crazy, but absolutely who did they
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  Speaker 1: replace him on the roster with? I have to look
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  Speaker 1: back and see again they but I mean subtle changes
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  Speaker 1: that changes that big for them, but most people won't
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  Speaker 1: see or notice. What could that be? Don't know? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I know you can't just you're just throwing
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  Speaker 1: stuff out there. I know you can see what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: What like what like what I'm trying to think. Okay, quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: major change, Okay, that's one. Okay, but that was coming
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  Speaker 1: because he was hurt when even when he said, I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to think what else is out there? Yeah, don't
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm gonna go to the run and shoot,
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  Speaker 1: no running, but think their best player off the field.
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  Speaker 1: We'll think about this, like who on the roster that
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  Speaker 1: we have not seen that you can bring up to
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  Speaker 1: have a significant role. That would be like, yes, that's
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  Speaker 1: what we need. Nobody, nobody, you know, yeah, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I haven't seen. The idea we haven't seen a
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  Speaker 1: lot of lately is and I think it's because he's
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  Speaker 1: been dinged up a little bit of Chinnualt doing more things.
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  Speaker 1: Remember in the year he was taken direct snaps and
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  Speaker 1: in the rounds and all that stuff. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: that's crazy. If you're gonna take a quarterback and put
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  Speaker 1: him in the lineup to evaluate him. Let him play quarterback. Seriously,
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  Speaker 1: why don't I'm just thinking out loud. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: who else would there be? Imagine what else is there?
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  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. I don't know, no idea.
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  Speaker 1: I can't tell you one thing. Like I'm racking my brain.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, okay, offensive line, any changes you make their No,
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  Speaker 1: no receiver, no tight end. No. I mean, if it
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  Speaker 1: might come back from the injury running back, no, that's offense.
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  Speaker 1: Defensive line. The only thing could be switching it up
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  Speaker 1: and playing at different fronts. But but that's that's not
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  Speaker 1: happening in a byeway. It's hard to I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: can't imagine it would happened. Um, maybe start you know
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: it could happen. Maybe you start Daniel Thomas at safety,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: so he started Daniel Thomas and Jared Wilson. Wilson would
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: be a joy because Wilson's going back right, So maybe
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: maybe you start Daniel Thomas back there. Maybe you're gonna
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: put I can't even think of his name right now.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: The kid from Michigan State at nickel Oh Josiah Scott,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Desiah Scott Nickel. That's not that's something that people would
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: be able to see. Oh don't. I don't know. Maybe
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: they're gonna blitz every down. It's gonna be. They're gonna
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: they're gonna play the Bear front. They're gonna like the
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: old Chicago Bears defense and leave their leave their corners
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: on an island. They're gonna go to the wishbone. I mean,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know. There's not a lot. There's not a
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: lot you could do other than they change the quarterback
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: because they had That's it. That's what he's talking to.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Chris Thompson came off the COVID list. That's why that
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: was the change in the fullback. That was the same
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: day as the fullback they had to ret least Bruce Miller.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I would anything you can help us out here with
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: j I'm with you. You know we're drawing strongs here,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: we're drawing blanks here. I don't know, this is tough.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Don't do just don't do anything at all that will
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: make you win the game. Beat Well, then why don't
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I even play the game? Just just pack up, stay home. Sunday,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: we'll go to the bar. Watched on TV Evaluation all
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: about evaluation. I mean, and that you have a TV
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: contract that says you have to play. You're not trying
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: to win the game. How many people are allowed the
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: stadium on Sunday? How many will be there? Seand's you
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: think there'll be that many there? I don't know. Why not, Pete?
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Why are you so negative? I'm being positive. Lose them all,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: get a second pick overall and get get a quarterback.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: How about that that positive enough for you? We're better
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: yet by Jets apparel. We're it all around town, but
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: signed in ner yard, your big Jets fan, and hope
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: they lose a couple, win a couple of games and
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: you get the number one overall. But then you got Jake.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Is this gonna be? Is this gonna be resounding top
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: that we come back to every week about losing every
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: game to get the number one? Picky? This might be
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: every segment with him, Tony unless you unless you win
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: one and then you ruin it and then I can't
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: go back there anymore. Well, they got they got opportunity
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: into the teams. Texas team that's not very good. I mean,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I feel better that if Gardner was starting, he could
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: be a better chance of winning. But we'll see. But
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: the big thing is is the defense. I mean, this
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: defense is given up thirty points or more a game
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: the last six games. Only two other franchises in the
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: history of the NFL have done that eight four Vikings
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: and sixty eight Proncos. And they're facing the DeShawn Watson.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, if Houston could do anything, they can score
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: some points, and so will they be able to break
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the thirty point No? Do you think that You think
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Houston scores more than thirty? Yes, that means it's luten time.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: He's gonna have to put up some big numbers. Do
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: you think they break the thirty points? Great? Um gone
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: to head? No? Oh, there you go. Do you win
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: this week? Yeah? This week? They have a chance to
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: this week, but I didn't. I know they have a chance.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Winding up football, we don't have a chance. Do you
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: think I'll say yes just for argument's sake. Yes, I
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: don't want arguments sake. I'm ask you what in your
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: gut you really right? Just you think? No? Okay, you're
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: trying to so that's a clean sweep across the board.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: We all think they're giving up thirty this week. I'm
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: trying to be negative but it is what it is,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: you know. But okay with that as the back drop,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: is Luton going to score thirties so you think they
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: can get Tony said they have a chance to win
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: and and he feels they have. This is an opportunity
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: to win. So if you think that the Texans are
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: scoring over thirty, do you think Luton's gonna get the
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: shootout with? I mean, Gardner wasn't put up thirty either.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: By the way, how many times speak do you think
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the Texans have scored thirty points this year? Well? I
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: know one time, right, and they scored him against a
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: garbage time against a couple of teams coming out how
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: many times? How many times? But the Packers they scored thirty.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I think it was a scored only twice against us
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: in the Titan they'll score thirty again. Um, And could
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: we see some trades by the Texans at the deadline
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: getting rid of Fuller and J. J. Watt. They're not
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: gonna get d J. Sounding like they're going to keep
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: everybody around with the comic and they're not going to
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: get rid of J. J. Watt as a franchise dumping
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: you happened? Wait a minute, it happened? Is uh, are
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: they gonna get rid of Fuller? Maybe I would hurt
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the well. Then maybe they won't score thirty. Then they're
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: scoring thirty. I'm gonna change my tune. I don't think
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: they scored thirty. Miles Jack's coming back, Jared Wilson's coming back. Listen,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: they only scored. They scored thirty against US at Houston
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: and where we played terrible. Like, I don't think they
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: scored thirty. Hi, But then, did you think the Jaguars
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: have a chance to win? Then? Um, yes, they have
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: a chance. Everyone has a chance. Every time you think, okay,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: are you gonna lock it? It sounds like it sounds
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: like there's a dinner bet coming between you two. There's
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: no but I do. I don't think they scored thirty.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think the Texans score thirty. They might not
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: need to, you know, late in the game, you might
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: not need to score thirty. Might be seven to seven,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: You're I mean, I'm a realist. I I look, I
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: want to see what the kid can do. I'll be honest.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I want to see Luton play. I hope he's put
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: a position where they allow him to play quarterback and
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: don't protect him, Let him play quarterback, let him sling
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: it around, let him throw it on early down that
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: if he stinks, then he stinks, but find out and
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: then what then let him play next week. And if
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: these things he stinks, then you really know, but you
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: can't protect them. You gotta let him play. And when
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: you mean by protecting people listening what you're saying there
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: is don't just go run, run, tass run run, because
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: you know then you're not protecting him. You're putting him
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: in in in the you know, line of fire. I
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: think I think if you if you let him throw
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: in some first downs and then mix in the run
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and then throwing early downs, then I think that makes
• 26:58
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• 27:02
  Speaker 1: and at third and eight, then he's tight and you're
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: you put the pressure on him and they can pin
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: their ears back. Don't do that. All right, let's come
• 27:11
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• 27:14
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• 27:18
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• 27:21
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  Speaker 1: We did briefly there, but can we really call this
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• 32:08
  Speaker 1: like Pete, this is going to be a long spiral
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: with you this year because you're already down. It's like
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  Speaker 1: one of those remember uh kmart back in the old days, right,
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of times and got down to the bottom
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  Speaker 1: just at the top with Pete right now, and it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a long downward spiral with Pete all year
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: of negativity until we reached January three at the bottom.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I'm being positive. I'm looking at the draft already. What
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: do you want me to do that, I'm already looking
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: at the draft. Have you you bet your first mock
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: out yet? Pie? But if I watched Justin Fields on
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Saturday night, I want to I want to evaluate these guys.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Come on, JP. Negativity, that's not negativity. Negativity is coming
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: in and being morose on a Monday. And we're not morosse.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: We're looking ahead. We're looking to the future, which is
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: what this team should be doing now. The future, the
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: future we are. The future is Jake Luton right now.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Future is bright sunglasses, yeah, to shield your eyes. JP
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: gets so mad when I'm when I point out the negative,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: When I say, don't win anymore? Why don't you play
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: the game to win? He's like it, don't speaking, man?
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I still I just can't get It's Tony, you talked
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: about this a little bit last week too. I'm kind
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: of with you, man, it's you play to win football games, now,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I know, but it's just it's frustrating. JP. You're right,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: here's the difficult thing. And then it's hard because why
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I agree with Pete if you look at the long
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: term his franchise, it's hard to argue that if you want,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: like if you're just saying, forget this year in the
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: pain and forget about all the people that you know,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: we have relationships within the building and everything else, just
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: set all that aside, and you could say, um, we
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: could get the first overall picking and get draft Trevor Lawrence,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: who every expert that you talked to and every coach
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: it says he's a difference maker. He's a every once
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: in the you know, blue moon type of quarterback, the
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: last one probably Andrew luck Um type of player, and
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: you can guarantee you get him. Well, it's hard not
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: to say, like that's the best pathway. Now, with that said,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: it's super difficult for me to j P because I
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: want to win football games because this is no fun.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: It's no fun. Constantly coming in and talking about all
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: the things that are wrong and bad performance and bad
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: players and bad whatever, but coaches decisions and bad rosters
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: and bad this and bad that, bad year after year
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: after year too. By the way, nobody likes talking about it,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: and the fans don't like to talking about it. I'm
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: tired of it. You're tired. Everyone's tired, um, And so
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. Well, Pete loves and stuff, No I don't.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Just a realist. So I'm with you in the sense that, yes,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I want to win football games, like I would like
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: to beat the Texas. But it's hard to argue. It
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: is really hard to argue with Pete and his reasoning
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: and saying the best thing for this franchise lose every
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: game and hope against all hope that somehow the Jets
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: win two games. And and Tony, I understand, if I'm
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: a player, I don't want to lose a game at all,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna go
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: out there and do everything in my power to be
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: the best I could possibly be to try and win
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: the game. But if I'm the best I can possibly
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: be and the team isn't good, enough, then oh well,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: then you don't win. Then you start looking to the
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: future and you can they can say they don't they do.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: It's a natural thing. I wonder if you're a wide receiver,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I wonder what I like to be He catch passes
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: from Trevor Lawrence. I wonder what it would be like
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: to catch passes from Justin Field. Tell me they don't
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: do it. They do it. Yeah, But I would disagree
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: with you, Pete in this sense. I don't think the
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: majority of players are thinking like that. I think the
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: majority of the vast majority of players are thinking that
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: we gotta find a way to win the game. Every
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: coach is thinking about how do we gonna win? Dave
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Cable and all the scout is thinking we need to
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: win a football game. That's all that, because if they don't,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: then they're all gonna be out of here too, by
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: the way, and picking those guys. But if you're what,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: if you're DJ Chart, you're not gonna be out of
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: there right. No. But but he's still I promise you
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: if you're if you gave DJ Tark truth sirum, he's
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: not thinking about Trevor Lawrence or or Justin Fields. He's
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: not thinking about that, Pete. He's not thinking about it openly,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: but he's fantasized. No, he's not. He's thinking about how
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: he can be the best he can because he knows
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: you don't think. On the Sunday when he's not playing
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: or in the college game, he looks around, he go,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I wonder where to be like to catch balls from
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: a guy like that. I really don't think he does
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: instead of these passes that flutter in the air like
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: a pump. Come on, I don't think he thinks that
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: way now. To that point, though, I do think it's
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: the job of what we're supposed to do evaluating this
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: where this team is and where the roster is today
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: and where they sit, and what's realistic and what you
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: need to be thinking about. How does this team get better?
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I think it's hard for them to get substantially better
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: with the current roster. Now, do I think the young
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: guys can get better? And that you can that's absolutely can't.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: And maybe Jake Luton is like the next great, but
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I'm so tired of hearing about that. I guess how
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: many six rounders have been this succession Tom Brady. It's
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: a it's a real small group, it's a yeah, what
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: if it's a group. What if it's a group of two,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: maybe you're in good shape. First. Overall, when I talk
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: about evaluation, it's taught. I also mean the same thing
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: you do, tony. Young players getting better is important more
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: so trying to win the game. I mean, I get it,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: not trying to but but you know what I mean.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: In the end game, players making progress is better than
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: getting a fluking into a lucky win. For example, what pete,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: what Pete you're saying? Is you're saying, listen, obviously everyone
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: wants to win the game. If you're on the team
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: and you're a coach and you're in the organization, yes,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: you want to win the football game. Well you're saying,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: is okay, let's just step back and be a realistic
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: where this team is right now, and great if you win, okay, whatever.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: But most important, if you're thinking about the future and
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: having a chance to compete for whiteoffs and the chance
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: to go to the Super Bowl and not have this
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: conversation year after year after year after year after year,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: is hey, young players have to get better. You have
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: to find the quarterback in the future, and you gotta
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: otherwise you're gonna have the same conversation every year. Correct, Correct,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: So if you have an opportunity and they clearly do
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: to get Trevor Lawrence, then do everything in your power
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: to get him. Yeah, but you can't. But that that's
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: where I lose you, Pete, because nobody like Doug, your
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: own and Dave called well, the coaching staff, and these
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: players aren't gonna do everything. They're not thinking, hey, let's
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: do everything we can to lose. They're not gonna try
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: and lose games. But I'm saying from cynical standp No,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: the best thing for him is to lose the games.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say you're gonna try and lose games.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Nobody tries to lose. Nobody wants to lose. And if
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: you're a player, you take accountability and how you play.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: If I'm on a one in ten team, I'm still
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: playing my hardest and doing my best. And that's what
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: you gotta hope for, and you gotta young players get better.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: But the end game is this, young players getting better
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: is more important than fluking into a lucky wind. Say
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: say there's a part return for a fumble, you pick
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: it up in the end zone. You would be the
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: team somehow you win the game. That's not showing progress,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: that's showing you fluked into a victory. Is that good
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: for the franchise? No? Yeah, I mean you're you're We're
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: just saying we're talking about two different things. What's good
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: in the short term, what's good in the long term.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't to say long term, medium term, the next
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: year to the next year term. If it's I mean,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: is finding in quarterback? I mean you have to you
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: have to solve that mystery. You have to find the
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: guy and you have to. By the way, at the
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: same time, you get better on defense too. But that's
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: a whole difference conversation. You know who the number one
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: defense in the league is right now? Tampa Bay No,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh No. Yeah, the good day they gave up four
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and fifty yards of defense. The number one defense in
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: the league? Right what by what? Metrics? Scoring? Scoring? Defense? Yep,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: h number one, number one. Now I think they have
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: their quarterback and he didn't do anything on But okay,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: let's take the exact scenario, because Miami was terrible. That
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: would you take growth like that in the next season
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: and solidified quarterback position if you could do that. Of
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: course you would. And why did that happen because they
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: allowed young guys to develop and play. By the way,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay is number one in yards per game
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: total defense. Who's number one? Who's number one in scoring
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Defenseimi Dolfins. But if you do that one metric, what
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: d v O A. I don't know what that stands for.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Like Tampa is the best defense, right, Miami is the
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: best scoring defense, which is I mean, at the end
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: of the day, that's all that matters. That's how many
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: score compared to men. You give up and they turned
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: the ball and they took the ball away. So yeah,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I'm saying use Miami as a gage for how you
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: can fix it. You get your quarterback, but you allow
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: the young players during a season when it's going to
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: be bad, to develop and at the end of the season,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: that's a that's a good thing. That's a good thing
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: for developmental the developmental process. It's not about just winning games.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: That's not what this season is about for Jackville. It's
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: about development, developing players. So play the young games you mentioned,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Daniel Thomas, put them in there, let them play. All right,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: let's come back. We'll get into some of those young
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: defensive players for this football team, including Devon Hamilton's who
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: had a big game last time out for the Jags.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit of breaking news here Ian Rappaport's reporting
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: just moments ago that we mentioned the fullback Bruce Miller
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: was cut from the roster. He was added back to
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: the practice squad. Well. Ian Rappaport says he's being suspended
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: six games for p e D s. His agent says
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: that he took an over the counter supplement before being
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: signed by the team that listed no band substances. The
• 47:08
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• 47:11
  Speaker 1: That's a tweet from Ian Rappaport just moments ago. Um,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: so do you haven't. That's um the latest and long time.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, that's right. So here's another one full back.
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  Speaker 1: Let's move to defense. Then in that case, let's talk
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: about some of these young players on defense. You mentioned
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Daniel Thomas last segment, Pete. Of course, he had the
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: block punt returned for a touchdown on special teams last week,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: and the times he's been on the field of defense,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: which hasn't been a lot. He was in there at
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: one point for an injury for about a half of
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: a game and lead the team in tackles in that game. Um,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Devon Hamilton's had a good game last week. That gives
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: you some promise up front on the defensive line. In
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: the interior. By the way, I'm oppressed with him. He's
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: getting better, he tony. He's one of those guys that
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: benefiting from playing. You can see him getting better. Yeah,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: I agree with that was his best game. I mean absolutely,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: I mean more reps he can get. I mean he's
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: gonna get more and more comfortable out there. He's a
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: big guy. I mean, you'd like to see a little
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: bit more pass rush out of him. But he's a
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: one technique and he's a big body, and and I
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: thought he played very well against the Chargers. And he's
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: a perfect example of what's going what what will be
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: a part of what's going forward and letting him develop
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: the rest of the year. That's right, Chase. You gotta
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: get Chase on going. How does he get going? He's
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: needs reps, you need you know a lot of times,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: you know young pass rushers, that takes time for them
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: to get used to working against you know, top end
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: tackles because in college you can beat guys just with
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: your peer athletic ability. And he's a eight athletes, um,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: so he needs to continue to work on his technique.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: His hands is, you know, setting up guys and and
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: understand really the art of being a pass rusher. Um.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: He's an undersized defensive end. So you're not gonna overpower
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: these guys. And he's gonna have to really work on
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: a speed and you know, it'd be nice to get
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: a little speed to power move and and uh and
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: work is you know, you've gotta be able to have
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: an inside move to keep the tackles honest if you
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: want to have the upfield speed move. So these are
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: all things he's have to develop, and hopefully, you know,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: he has nine more games to continue to work and
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: get better. So there's a handful of guys that you'd
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: like to see a little bit more out of as
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: the season goes along. There, Josh Allen, here's a perfect example,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen talking about him. It's a good you know segue.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Rarely are you just gonna beat guys in this league
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: with speed up the field. It's just like number one
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks do two good a job being all the step up.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: So if you don't get pushed from the inside, it's
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: really hard. Just with pure speed, you can get into
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: him sometimes if you get a great interior rush um
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: and so the great pass rushers like you look at
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: von Miller. Vonmb Miller is a great pass rusher, not
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: just because he has speed, because he has a great
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: inside move. So it's an offensive time. You have to
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: keep that inside move and you have to be aware
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: of it. He also has enough power to keep you honest,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: and so you just can't bail out because if we
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: bail out, he'll just push you into the pocket. And
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: so as a speed rusher, you have to develop a
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: counter move to keep the tackle on its Otherwise they're
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: just gonna sit bail out on you, keep you in
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: the outside, and run you around the pocket all day long.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: And that's what has happened in the um chase on
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: it a little bit. Josh Allen too. I mean Josh
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Allen's obviously further along, he's had the injury. UM. I
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: still think he's a really good player. Um had a
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: slow start obviously, But you know, it's the development of
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: that second Excuse me, if you're a speed guy, that
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: secondary move. I agree, and and but can you learn
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: that during a season? Yeah? Why not? What else are
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: you gonna be doing? You're getting all the reps? Yeah,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I agree. I think he should be doing more than
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: he's doing. I think Josh Allen will do more than
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: he's doing in the second part of the season. I
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: think Hamilton's going to be a nice building block. What
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: do you do with linebacker? I mean, Miles Miles Jack
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: is coming back. I think he's a good player. At
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: some point, you start taking away reps from Chober He's
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: paid him a bunch of doesn't mean you can't admit
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: your mistake. Do you see that happening there's not been
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: a history of in this organization of admitting your mistakes quickly.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: They they make him even more complicated by just piling
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: on top of usually list a lot of times. The
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: greatest thing you can do in any you know, I
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: think in the NFL, but you look at the business world, anything,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: you know, make him make a decision. But then guess what,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: when you're wrong, admit it and move on because otherwise
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: you otherwise you just compound that mistake. So real quick,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: before we go down this road, I want to ask
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: you a little more about Schobert. Then we'll get to that,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Like what is it? Is it the last few weeks
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Schobert hasn't lived up to it? And why? But he
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: hasn't lived up for it all year? I don't think
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: he he hasn't lived up to the contract. He's a
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: he's a good sound player, but that that's I mean,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: he hasn't even been great against the past, which was
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: one of his specialties. Yeah, I mean he's uh. And
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: this isn'tmpiling on him because if he had better players
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: in front of him, he might be a better player too.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: But would you at all consider looking at like a
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: guy like Shaq Corterman in some situations. You know, it's
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: hard to say Pete because I haven't watching them. I mean,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: we didn't see these guys in preseason. We didn't see
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: him in camp. Can he cover? Can you run? I
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think so. Yeah, he's a he's
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: he's the first and second middle linebacker. So if that's
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: the case, then you like you literally have to change
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: your scheme where you say, okay, if you're gonna take
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Schobert out, you're of course shack in the first down,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: and against right I'm not first, but against regular personnel,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: he's your mic linebacker. And then you bring in either
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Schobert for Nickel or you bring in uh Williams for
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Nicol and move uh him. I mean, so then it
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: gets really convoluted and you're thinking more, a lot of
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: thinking to be done. Then I get it, and so like,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: do I think, um, show it's great? No? Is he awful? No?
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: I mean it was didn't play well against Chargers, But
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: there's not like there's nothing that jumps out watching the
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: tape of him, like wow, he's like a difference maker. No,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: and he's not. You're right, he's not awful. He's not
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: a difference maker. He just is and they aren't just
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: paying him so a lot. Yeah, so play Joe, play right.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Dash idea is just making play better better. It doesn't
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: work like that. And here's the thing that you have
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: to be careful free agents all the time. Just because
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: you paid guy a lot of money doesn't mean he's
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: like really good. I mean, this league is this league.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: This league's history is littered with guys who hit free
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: agency at the right time, got a bunch of money,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: and they were average players. They got paid that great
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: players because they were on the open market. And it
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: only takes one team to pay you a bunch of money, right,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: I agree, Well, Jackson will make any deals like for what,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know deals what we were just trade machine
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: here all of a sudden. I mean maybe if you like,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: the only way deals I'm making is if I'm trading
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: somebody who makes a bunch of money and get draft picked,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: and you don't because I'm just who who would you
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: be able to do? Like you can trade who? You're
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: not gonna get rid of anybody on that offensive line.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: It makes a lot of money, are you No? I
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: don't think anyone's gonna pay a lot of I mean,
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: they're not gonna take those salaries probably. I mean, the
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: only the only guy he's hurt he's been hurt is
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Miles Jack. That's a that's a big salary. But he's
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: your best player on defense. Right now? What about what
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: about Linda and uh and uh Norwell, if they given
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: uh offensive line needy team that might want to make
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: the playoffs might be interested, all right, who Okay, let's
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: just think this to Pete. Who is that team that's
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: gonna giving you something worth trading right now? I'm I'm
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: just saying, okay, let's just say the Eagles, but that
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: they're They're office line has been bad all year, but
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: you know they have a center that's a problem there
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: that if this team played there, if this team played
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: the rest of the year without Linder and played with
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: chat Lee and BArch for chat Lee and can is, well,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: by what we've seen in the beginning of the year, now,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, there wasn't a huge drop off on chat
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Lee when no Blender is a better pass protective shat
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Lee's probably been a better run run player. So but
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: here's our thing. Do you think the Eagles are gonna
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: give you a three for Linda normal, would you take it?
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I would think long and hard about I know that.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing when you have to when you're
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: making the decision peat and I don't know what they're planning,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: like how they're planning for next year. I would hope
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: you have a plan for like who we want to
• 56:29
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  Speaker 1: isn't that bad for next year? And you don't save
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  Speaker 1: Thumbagore thumb is hurt, you know, so we don't really
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  Speaker 1: think much of it, you know. And then the next
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  Speaker 1: day came in and they said it was swollen, and
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: then they were gonna get X ray. So that was Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: and then, um, you know, Tuesday night, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: find out, you know, he has an injury to his
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  Speaker 1: right thumb. So the plan is to try to get
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  Speaker 1: him back and I see him being in active this weekend.
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• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: of Jaguar's Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Baselli.
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  Speaker 1: Your social questions coming up. We'll looking around the FC
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  Speaker 1: South and around the National Football League in week eight
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: as well. That's the news of the day. Gardner Minshew
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: will be an active this week. It feels like it
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: sounds like from Duck Marona, and the starter will be
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Jake Luton, the rookie out of Oregon State. Yes, j
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: does does? Then you start again? I love it. Hold
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: on before you answer the question. My favorite is and
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: I do it all that time too. We never let
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: JP get through his introduction before one of us interrupts him.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Every time. Well, that's the whole idea, every single moderator.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Maybe if you can I can't moderate, if I can't talk.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like one of these debates on TV, if
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  Speaker 1: you could just come back and say, I'm JP, I'm back. Go.
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  Speaker 1: We're taking from there. We're just giving the people what
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: they want JP, which is more me and Tony and
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: lesson less of me. That's real nice. You're really negative today,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: You're you're this is your spot on today. Let me
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  Speaker 1: tell you. Let me finish first, biggest today. Of course,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Jake Luton will be the starting quarterback this week after
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew injured his thumb. We also heard from Dug
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Maron today when asked about the timetable when Gardner Minshew
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: might have injured that thumb. Here's what Maron had to
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: say about possible discipline for holding the injury away from
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  Speaker 1: team officials. One. You know, if you're injured, you need
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  Speaker 1: to report it. You have to report it. I said
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  Speaker 1: to It's not like I don't understand, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: competitiveness and you where you know you want to continue
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: to play. And I said, but you gotta make smart
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: decisions and decisions that's what's best for the team. And
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: and and that was it. So, um, I don't think
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get involved with you know, at least from
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: my standpoint of any disciplinary measure. There's the head coach
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: today when I asked about that. So apparently it happened
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. He's been playing through it, Pete
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Tony go. I just my doubts and when it happened,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know what why. I think he's what I mean,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: was there no, not think he's faking? Was there any
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  Speaker 1: difference between the way he played supposedly before the injury
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  Speaker 1: and after it? Was there any difference? Yeah? It was
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  Speaker 1: worse on I'll say this, I thought he was I
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: don't think he's been very good, by the way, But
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: I think he was really bad against the Chargers from
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: an accuracy standpoint. But was that because of the finger?
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, Pete, I don't know. But you don't look
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  Speaker 1: at the first go look at the first ball. Yeah,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: but okay, but then he dropped one into the bucket
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: on the on the deep ball. That's where you're right.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: It's hard, like you can't have it both ways. You
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: can't say, like, but here's everything. I've also played hurt.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: You know you can fight through it. And certain things
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: work work and certain things don't. So I don't know.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: I think a deep ball would be the one thing
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: that wouldn't work. An through that one perfectly. I believe him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna give him the benefit of doubt.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: But when when did show me the play that had
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: happened on? Can we find that? Well, it happened sometime
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: in Houston, supposal, I don't remember you told the game.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: You watch everyone. I'm gonna go back and look and
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: see when he heard his thumb. Okay, I'll go dive
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: through every plane. Get that done to stand by, I'll
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: be back in I'll be back in a few hours.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: We'll see it a little bit. It would be a
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: good show with me and j P today. All the sudden,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: you want me as your cost Pete, that's great. Now
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: you turn the Table's got about as much energy as Dug,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: which is what are you talking about. I'm just saying
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  Speaker 1: I trust the kid. You're saying you doubt the kid.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: I trust. I don't know, I'm doubt. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what are you saying? What are you saying and you
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  Speaker 1: don't believe it, just say it and say it. I
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: just have my doubts when the injury happened, let's put
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: it that way. So you don't believe the kid. I
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  Speaker 1: believe him. When did it happen then, Pete, I don't know.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. Well, you're speculating. I'm probably in
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: the minority of If it happened and he used the
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: game and he didn't tell anybody, a lot of people
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: will look get that as a negative and a bad
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: thing that he did. If I'm him and it happened, Houston,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: I want to play, so I'm gonna do everything I
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: can to play. But what if he was hurting the
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: team by play? And that's that's what's the dog's point.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: I mean that's what Dog said. I mean, independing what
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: had I have on. From the team standpoint, i'd be
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: upset and say listen, I mean that we can't do this.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: From the player's standpoint, I don't blame her at all.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: I think Gardner Minshew is fully aware of like this
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: might be his only shot. He might never get back
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: on the field again as a starting quarterback. Now remember
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: this too, and this jogged my memory earlier today about
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: this Gardner Minshew remember in college at East Carolina once
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: purposely tried to break his hand to keep a scholarship.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: He told that story at one point. So I'm not
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: saying that I'm just saying they're going to keep the job.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm just saying that there is a
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: history of out breaking news. JP just accused Gardner Minshew
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: appurposing breaking his thumbs just looking at just to try
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: to help his career. He tried to. It's a story.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: It didn't happened. So I don't sign off on anything
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: this group is saying of YouTube, because I think it's
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  Speaker 1: it's not very unfair to the kid. I think the
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: kid got hurt in Houston. I think he's a tough
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: kid in the competitor and tried to fight through it,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: and he just got to the point where swelled up
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: because if he hurt his hand in Houston and it
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: was a broken what was it? A broken thumb and
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: ligament issues apparently, Okay, if he had a broken thumb,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: would it swell? Yeah? That's the other thing. How did
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: you get away? I mean, we need to get like
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: a quarterback on here, like can you even throw a
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: ball with a broken I'm with horn ligaments? Well, and
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: the other thing is, don't you think guys in the
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: locker room would know that? People wouldn't know? Again, again,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: you can't. You're not in the locker room. So how
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: the heck could you tell? I mean, okay, let's just
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: say Tony, I'm gonna use you as an example. You're
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: playing your team and Brunell's thumb is broken. I would know,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: you would know, And therefore and window no, no, no.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: If he asked me the same thing, I wouldn't say anything,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: but they would. He would probably tell them too, Hey, guys,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: I'm playing with a broken thumb. Make sure you're better
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: in protection? You would tell him what would you rather do?
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Look like crap? And not say anything about it now.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: But here's the other thing, Pete. This can happen if
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: they're if they're minor fractures. It's not like he could
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: have thought he just bruised it or he just had
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: a spring. He could play through it and maybe he
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: got worse throughout the game. It against the Chargers. I mean,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: that's happened. I didn't know my shoulder was as bad
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: as it was. I played with him for a year. Yeah,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: but okay, but throwing a football, he got worse. When
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: was the moon ball for the touchdown in the Chargers
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: game third quarter? I think, okay, so then it got
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: better at the game went off, It comes and goes.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: It's a way that's just here. Here's the cynic in me.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: He sees a lot of holes in the story, that's all.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: And I look, maybe maybe the kid. I mean, I'm
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: not gonna go as far as saying he broke his
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: own thumb, like Jad, I'm just telling you what happened
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: in the past. I can't believe he said that fast.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: What happened in the past. Your family is not listening.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: That's rude. Touchdown came with two fifty four left in
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: the third quarter. By the way, Okay, soles play the
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: whole So that whole game, the thumb was bothering him,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: but when he threw the moon ball from the touchdown,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: it was fine. Come on, do you see where you
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: can be a cynic in the whole thing? Well, maybe
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: the long ball, the position of the football and the
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: thumb doesn't hurt as much. Could you like shoot it
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: up at halftime or something? How does that work? I
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: don't know. Is that even possible with the thumb? I
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: don't know. Well, I mean, I don't know. Maybe yeah,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: But if you shoot it up at halftime and you
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: don't feel it, can you throw it? Made it sound
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: like Dub didn't find out until after the game, right, Well,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: if you're shot up and have time to about that,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: and if it's if he thinks it's just a bruise,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: doesn't he say something to the training staff, Hey, my
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: thumbs bothered me. Can just check it out. I don't know.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: There's just there's just a lot of holes in the
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: whole thing, that's all. That's all I'm saying. You're making story.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: It's like that the one when you go out front
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: you find like when I used to be the big guy,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: and you find out that he fell on the pavement
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: somewhere after the game. I don't know, you know, like
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: the stories I used to find out about knights on
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: the town back in a day, tell us somebody tell
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: us some of them never on the town. You might
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: have been there for a couple No, no, no, no, no, no,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: no no no. Tell who else I think he was there.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: He might have been, but uh no, I mean, look,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: the bottom line is stuff happens away from the game too.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: It does. So when it happened, who knows. Maybe he
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: broke it, he felt, maybe he felt. It's just a
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: lot of holes in the story. Come on, let's be
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: real about it. When it happened home on, why didn't
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: the team know? Why didn't he say anything? How can
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: he throw a moonball in the third quarter for a
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: touchdown when the thing is broken? There's a lot of
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: holes in the story. So okay, in fairness, it does
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: not look good because especially the injury, how you're supposed
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: to report injuries. He's the starting quarterback of an NFL franchise. Yes,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: bad play, you're losing, things are going. It does not
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: It seems like we're missing something here. But I'll say
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: this when your adrenaline is going, Pete. You can do
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: things when you're hurt. That's a fact that great. And
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: you can be inconsistent doing it too, So like you
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: can make good plays and bad plays because you're hurt,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: and you can suck it up. And I think Garder
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: mentioned a tough dude. Maybe maybe he just could suck
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: it up. And you know, some throws you can get
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: away with it and others the ball didn't feel right
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: in his hand. I don't know. I didn't play quarterback.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: But to your point, it's like, this is not normal.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: Let's put it that way, right, there's a lot of holds.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: This is a Swiss cheese story. Is this the matter
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: of you can I wouldn't go. I wouldn't go Swiss cheese,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: but we would you, all right? So what would make
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: it a solid story, Pete? Like what what would be
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: from cutting dry? This is okay? Heard it in the
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: Houston game and tried to play through it. Wanted to
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: stay on the field because he knew he wasn't playing
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: well and wanted to fight to keep his job. People
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: would pay him for that, I probably would, But I
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: wonder if he just didn't put his hand down somewhere
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: on a fall and then said, okay, I heard it.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: He used the game. I don't know. There's just so
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  Speaker 1: sleep Tony, he's going on? He does out on us?
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  Speaker 1: Is it Luton time? Well, this was obviously asked before
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  Speaker 1: Zona Cats Fan twelve, it is Luten time. The next
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  Speaker 1: Who knows? That's that's the mystery. I mean, Doug Baron
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  Speaker 1: How does he react? Yeah, I'm excited to see him
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  Speaker 1: see what he can do, how he spends it. Here's
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  Speaker 1: rush and he can't see the field? Can he anticipate
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  Speaker 1: can you see downfield? I mean, there's a rookie. You're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna expect a lot of that. But I'll be
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  Speaker 1: watching his eyes. Do do his eyes start coming down
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  Speaker 1: looking at the rush when he starts getting hit? Did
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  Speaker 1: Gardner's eyes start coming down? I think I think I
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  Speaker 1: think he was trouble, having trouble seeing you. And that's
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  Speaker 1: we know why he had two hands on the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Stop stop, you gotta beat the guy when he's down.
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  Speaker 1: Beat'm not beating him. I'm just being back down an
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  Speaker 1: you're beating him down, ridiculous, not beating him down. You
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  Speaker 1: agree with me? He just don't say it. What do
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  Speaker 1: I agree with? I don't he's a backup. That he's
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  Speaker 1: a backup. That's what it looks like. Appears to just
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  Speaker 1: say it. I think I just did. From now. Whenever
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  Speaker 1: you ask me a question, that's you pointed them to say.
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  Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. I mean, he's the Maria,
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  Speaker 1: trait that Pete will never be able to get over.
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  Speaker 1: it's forget everyone else. He has to say if it's
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  Speaker 1: think we have a president that's pretty much like that
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  Speaker 1: right now. So I rest my case. JP. That's the
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  Speaker 1: Tony's a smoozer politician more than I am. Just your
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  Speaker 1: answer is on here political? What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 1: It appears to be the case, yes, just just saying
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  Speaker 1: really contract personal here. It looks to be the case.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, so I don't think either of us, well,
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  Speaker 1: none of the above on this program want that. Next
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  Speaker 1: question from Waco Guerrina down in Argentina, if the Jags
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  Speaker 1: win a game or two and Lawrence and Fields get
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  Speaker 1: picked before, is again any other quarterback to draft? Or
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: do we stick with Gardener until two? And yes, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: said that last week. I said that, or two weeks
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  Speaker 1: They're saying if you don't give the question was feeling
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  Speaker 1: you a kid that's intrigued now, Like guys love Trey
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  Speaker 1: Land at North Dakota State. I haven't seen them. I
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  Speaker 1: watched them, athletic, he's got a good arm, got weird motion. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta do more work on him. The kid that's
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  Speaker 1: intriguing now this year to me, the kid at b
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  Speaker 1: Yu Zach watch him, watch him when you get a chance.
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  Speaker 1: a good arm. Watch him. What's wrong with Trey Lances
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  Speaker 1: throwing motion? You mean it's goofy, it's not. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It comes out weird. Look at it. You tell me
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• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: At least goofy is what I heard. Goofy. Next question
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  Speaker 1: from a Jaguar shark and we talked about this shot.
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  Speaker 1: Done anything this year to warrant the starting spot. I
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  Speaker 1: understand he signed a big contract, but at what point
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  Speaker 1: do you let quarterman play? May be you shock on
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  Speaker 1: you might do it. Yeah, So there you go. So
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  Speaker 1: don't know. Belichick has much to say so and how
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  Speaker 1: his team's playing right now? What do you think about
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: in making the excuses he's making about the salary cap
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  Speaker 1: and everything. That's unbelievable. I mean, you never thought you'd
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  Speaker 1: see Bill Belichick doing that. They're bad right now. It's
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  Speaker 1: not a good team and they weren't going to be
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  Speaker 1: a good day. Maybe he's taking for Trevor now because
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  Speaker 1: no chance. No, he wouldn't do that. Right there you go,
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  Speaker 1: free agent? What do you mean, well, they were of
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• 1:26:46
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  Speaker 1: him with the franchise quarterback. That's a lot of a
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  Speaker 1: us today. You know, I was thinking about it during
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  Speaker 1: even see over the podium to speak? Is that possible?
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  Speaker 1: Like already have to have like phone phone books to
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  Speaker 1: Mine would have like double that For the entertainment value,
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  Speaker 1: it could be huge be able to see me. Could
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  Speaker 1: you imagine all those signs all over people's lawns, Chrisco,
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  Speaker 1: Crisco Prisco. That's a that's a bad thought. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: it's depressing thought. It really is. Welcome back. Sorry for
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  Speaker 1: the cheap chack. Actually, I'm not sorry at all, Pete.
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  Speaker 1: You deserve that one today. Um, let's go around the
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  Speaker 1: case you haven't heard, the Bengals beat the Titans thirty
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  Speaker 1: one to twenty. The Colts over the Lions forty one
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  Speaker 1: twenty one. What happened to the Titans feed is terrible?
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  Speaker 1: Have they only scored I didn't see the game feed,
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  Speaker 1: but have they only scored a couple of times? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they weren't good. They didn't play well, they're bad. I
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  Speaker 1: thought they were going to give it to Derrick Henry
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  Speaker 1: forty times against that awful defense and just run it
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  Speaker 1: right down their throat, and particularly in the weather. The
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  Speaker 1: weather was dead. But you know how it goes. You
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  Speaker 1: go into the game and your idea of that next thing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the other team is scoring and you've got problems.
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  Speaker 1: But Joe Burrow is good, really good. Yeah, I said
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  Speaker 1: that week one, no one listened to me, and they
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  Speaker 1: and they had what do you mean, nobody listened to
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  Speaker 1: you trying to say he's the first overall pick. Of
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  Speaker 1: course he's gonna be good. I was wondering how long
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  Speaker 1: would take you to response? I mean, I said, I
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  Speaker 1: said on the draft night that he would win one,
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  Speaker 1: not to maybe two super Bowls in the next ten years.
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  Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah, he's good, he's good. Umah. The Titans,
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  Speaker 1: I was surprised by that. I thought they just running
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  Speaker 1: right down to the throat. But they have issues on defense,
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  Speaker 1: there's no doubt about think about it, Tony. As bad
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  Speaker 1: as the Bengals line has been, they played without their
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  Speaker 1: center and their left tackle and the right tackle yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: all three of them were out and the Titan just
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  Speaker 1: tripated today for Desmond King from the Chargers because they're terrible.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna change my power ring. Yeah, and you've been
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  Speaker 1: on them all year, you've you've been on him as
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  Speaker 1: the number one team. I stuck to mind, I thought
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  Speaker 1: the Colts were a better team. Last week you said
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  Speaker 1: the tight we're number one, we can go, we're the
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  Speaker 1: taping it. But I always thought that they had to
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  Speaker 1: be in the number one spocket. They had a better record,
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  Speaker 1: and I always thought the Titans the culture the better time.
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  Speaker 1: That's not how it works. It's not who has the
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  Speaker 1: better record, it's who you think is the better team
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  Speaker 1: standings culture number one, um Titans the number two. And
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  Speaker 1: then I'll have a tie for third between the Texans
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  Speaker 1: and the Jags. The winner it's the winner take all
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  Speaker 1: we can So I'm gonna have old number one Tightens
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  Speaker 1: number two, the Texans number three, and the Jaguars number four,
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  Speaker 1: and the loser takes all. Well, you know the Dolphins
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  Speaker 1: are rooting for the Jags because they have Houston's first
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  Speaker 1: round pick. Think about that disaster? Is that you? I mean, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of bad in Jacksonville. Right now, but
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: they do have draft pick capital and they have money
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  Speaker 1: to spend. The Texans have Deshaun Watson, so they have
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  Speaker 1: their quarterback, but everything else is a disaster. No coach,
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  Speaker 1: no GM, no no drafts, no draft picks, and no
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  Speaker 1: money to spend. Bad situation, the Watson in that situation
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  Speaker 1: or no quarterback? And what the jag Warriors have? What
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  Speaker 1: pick do we have within the now? As as four
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  Speaker 1: is that you said for? Yeah, it's number four. How
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  Speaker 1: good is Trey Lands for Zack Wilson? You are a
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: little bit early on Zach wilsonbody, No, not. I'm telling
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  Speaker 1: you he's one of those guys that's going up, up,
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  Speaker 1: up up, Like I don't heard him on anyone's anyone's Yes,
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  Speaker 1: he is, he's starting to be he is. Besides prisc
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  Speaker 1: who also said, what was your famous one that Miami quarterback?
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: He said it was gonna be a back in the day, Walsh,
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  Speaker 1: not one. Oh you're big on Ponder, you said, Christian Ponder.
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  Speaker 1: I did. I thought Ponder would be good. I can
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  Speaker 1: admit it when I make mistakes. Yeah, there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of them. We can find them up. Like you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to look at quarterback mistakes. All you gotta go do
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  Speaker 1: is look at the draft history that they were talking about,
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  Speaker 1: and we talked about that a few weeks ago. Pete
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  Speaker 1: that you go back in grade draft classes after you
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  Speaker 1: grade them on draft night or the day after the draft.
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  Speaker 1: Three years later you go grade you're grades again. I
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  Speaker 1: like that. I like that. Now, as promised last week,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to start this segment about draft order. I
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  Speaker 1: hate it, but as it stands today, the Jets would
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  Speaker 1: pick first and eight. The Giants play tonight there one
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  Speaker 1: in six, the Jaguars one in six would pick third.
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  Speaker 1: Houston's pick would go to Miami. But they were the
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  Speaker 1: last thing I saw JP with the strength of schedule,
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  Speaker 1: that we were ahead of the Giants. No, not according
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  Speaker 1: to what's in front of me right now. So uh,
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  Speaker 1: and then Dallas would be fifth, Atlanta sixth. Currently that's
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: the top six as it stands right now. Okay, the
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: question becomes with the Giants drafted quarterback the Jets would take? Ye,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: Jets are taking Trevor Lawrence. I don't think they do.
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  Speaker 1: I think they stick with Daniel Jones another year. You do, so,
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  Speaker 1: then if that were the case, then Justin Fields would
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  Speaker 1: be there at number three in that scenario. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I mean someone could try. But but here's the problem.
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  Speaker 1: You're the Jacks. When I can jump up, somebody, somebody will.
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  Speaker 1: If somebody who wants justin fields will go up to
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  Speaker 1: the Giants and trade with him, Well, hey, can you do? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: What make sure you got them? You got extra picked,
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  Speaker 1: got draft picked capital. Let's think about some of these
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  Speaker 1: other teams that would need a quarterback down the line
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  Speaker 1: here right Washington, Yes, yes, I mean Atlanta, Matt Ryan,
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  Speaker 1: how much he got left? Uh, they bring it? You
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  Speaker 1: know what the Atlanta situation depends on who they bring in.
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  Speaker 1: If they bring in a veteran coach thinks that they
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: go in. Now they go defense because they got I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they gotta above their offensive lines. Okay, they got a
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  Speaker 1: ton of weapons. They got Matt Ryan, they have calf issues.
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  Speaker 1: Can you get your defense healthy for one years and
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  Speaker 1: go spend your draft capital on defense and make it
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  Speaker 1: rock the next three years? I mean that's the decision,
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  Speaker 1: and that would be determined who the GM and the
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  Speaker 1: coaches there. He can still play, yeah, he can't, absolutely can't.
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  Speaker 1: And so you know that's a g M coach decision.
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  Speaker 1: You know you hired. And what does Arthur Blank to
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  Speaker 1: do if he hires a gym who convinces him, Hey,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: let's start this scramp it, let's clean up the cap,
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  Speaker 1: let's you know, you know, draft are you know, start
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  Speaker 1: building for the future. Well, then you do. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: do it because, like, finding quarterbacks are hard, and Matt
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: Ryan can still play. And by the way, they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: win a couple more games this year, so they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be drafting a little lower than that. Anyways, right I'm
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: going by the order as of what would be today
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: right now, So Atlanta, those teams right there, Dallas is
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: gonna take a quarterback. It depends when they do with that.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: They're going to tack the franchise them. But Pete, you'll
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  Speaker 1: know how Dax's ankle is by that point too. I mean,
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of un knows there. Yeah, they're not
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: gonna take the quarterbacks. But so the question becomes through
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: the Giants. In that scenario, do the Giants take a quarterback?
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: What have you seen? I don't either for whatever reason.
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  Speaker 1: How don't we evaluate the Angel Jones based on what's
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: around them? The offensive line is putred the guy that
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: I thought was gonna be the best left packle. That
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: group has turned out to be the worst so far.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas has been terrible. He's just beenning top and
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: left tackle. The rest of the line is a very
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: good either. Then his receivers are always hurt. Is Evin
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: Ingram any good? I mean? And he's one of the
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: great teases in the league. And then the running back
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: hasn't been there. How can you evaluate Daniel Jones and
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: what's around him right now? You can't? Well can you?
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: I can say the same thing about Sam Donald, But
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: there's a difference. The Jets will be getting Trevor Lawrence
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: where the second team will be getting Justin Field. So
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: you think it's that big a drop off between fields?
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  Speaker 1: And I gotta do more work on The more I
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: watch fields, the more I like them. He's really athletic,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: oh unreal, and he's a good arm I mean. The
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: hard part to evaluating Justin Fields no one's ever near him. Well.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: The other thing about Justin Fields is the book on him?
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: Is he locks on a little bit? Did you watch
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: Saturday night? I was driving. Did you watch it Saturday
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: night against Penn State? Yeah? I want I watched of it.
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  Speaker 1: He can do it. Yeah, yeah, you can throw. It's
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: like seven seven watching him back there. Yeah, and he's
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: got good receivers that a lot of as a good receiver.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's hard to evaluate him. So there you haven't.
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  Speaker 1: He looks the part, there's no doubt about that. And
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: and the way the game is played today with your
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: quarterback needing to move around a little bit, he could
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  Speaker 1: do it. What what? What kind of Like here's what
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know about either Lawrence for fields, Like are
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: they leaders? Good kids? I mean supposed really good. Both
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: of them both love love football, Like, yeah, that's what
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  Speaker 1: you want. You gotta have your quarterback. If you're gonna
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: draft a guy that high, he has to be competitive
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: and loved ball and just wants to be the bets. Well,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: don't remember that was kind of the book on Herbert
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: and Oregon was that he wasn't that guy, which was
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: not true. It turned off to be not true because
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: guys I know went in there and they said he
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: was the alpha guy. You want an alpha. You guy
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: has to be an alpha. He's gotta love it, live it,
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: be an alpha. Yeah, and if he is, then and
• 1:43:00
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  Speaker 1: scores from yesterday. The Steelers are undefeated still seven and
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  Speaker 1: Best team in the league, most complete team in the league.
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  Speaker 1: The Ravens don't pass it well enough. Two bad turnovers,
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  Speaker 1: seventeen four. Team Yeah, I don't know. I mean, that
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  Speaker 1: defense got exposed with but they got ran all over
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: when they gave up. But you know how that you
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  Speaker 1: know how that is when you play that that scheme
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's different than just lining up and running on them.
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  Speaker 1: That's fine, but I'm just I mean, listen, I think
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers are the best team they have, but they're
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  Speaker 1: not the best team in the NFL. Who's the best
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: team in the NFL. The team playing tonight, the Bucks. Baby,
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  Speaker 1: you might be right. That's that. If I had to
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: pick a Super Bowl right now, it's Steelers Buck, Steelers Bucks,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: that would be interesting topic. You're just discounting the Chiefs.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: Come on, you, you know that guy could get hot
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: and as I could be. Don't do that, Okay. If
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: the game is in Pittsburgh, the NFC Championship game, I
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: guess there's no fans, doesn't matter. It might be cold,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: it might be cold, it might be told and the
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: guy plays in the gold so it's not it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: You could be cold in Kansas City too. That's that's
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: why you were there with me last year in the
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: championship game? Is its gonna be any colder than that one?
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: And here and here's the here's the We can discuss
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: this later. So I know I'm gonna screw up everything
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: JP's trying to do. Do they go into a bubble
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  Speaker 1: for the playoffs where they play it? Uh, pick a
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: couple of sites and keep the teams there to make
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: sure there's because you can't like if you get the pointoffs,
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: you can't cancel games because the COVID, But you gotta
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: make sure everyone's walked down. Yeah, I don't know. They think, no,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: consider it depending on how bad it is. Talk the
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: Bills over the Patriot one. The Bills now are six
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: and two feet your guy, Josh Allen, Yeah, but that's
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  Speaker 1: not the story. The story is the Patriots are bad.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: That's a bad team. Yeah, but the Bills have been
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: playing that close. I actually lost a little bit of respect.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: I mean as far as where I put them in
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  Speaker 1: the list of good teeth for the Bills to play
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  Speaker 1: that team that close, and if Cam Newton doesn't fumble,
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: it might have been a different game. The other thing
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: is the Bills can't stop to run all of us.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, they've had problems all year, but it's getting worse.
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  Speaker 1: They gotta be able to stop them. Run the Raiders
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  Speaker 1: over the Brown six team to six ten points in
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter from Las Vegas. Don't worry, it'll be
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: better without Odell Beckham. Maker may feel plays better without
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. Remember all that talk last week. No, you don't, no,
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: you don't. You want stars on the field, you don't
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  Speaker 1: play better without them. The Browns are teeth. Just when
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: you think you're ready to say okay, here come the
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: Brown playoff team, You're loosing the Raiders at home. That
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: should never happen, and the Rangers have been terrible on deefense.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: They could to gorny points the Browns. Yeah, I agree, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean not much to that there. I mean I
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: said week. Anyone who says you're better without really good players, right,
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: don't know that. You don't know the game, right. The
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: Vikings knocked off the Packers two. What is this? The
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: Green Bay couldn't stop the run, the same thing that
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: happened in the championship game last year to the forty Niners.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook ran for hundred seventy yards and seventy They
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: couldn't tackle him. It was unbelievable. And that's not a
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: very good offensive line. That's a little offensive line. That's
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: surprising to me at least when they got beat by
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: the Ers, a big, good physical offensive line with that
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: great scheme. I mean, the Vikings just dominated him. Dalvin
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: Cook four touches the same scheme though now with Prubiac
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: running a similar very similar do they now? They played
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: the Niners this week in uh in San Francisco to
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: the Packers Thursday night. Yeah, but the problem is the me,
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: who are the Niners gonna roll out there. No Jimmy Garofolo,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: no George Kittle, the ball on the backers in that game,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: the Mighty Wing just twin rest of the season. Think
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: about the guys, the Niners a lost Bosa, he boards out,
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas, Richard Sherman hasn't played uh Kittle, most dirt
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: now Garoppolo. He both said, Wow, the achieves over the
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: Jets and an easy one thirty five to nine. This
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: was we saw this one coming. Well, you blitz, you
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: blitz him the way they blitz. Come on. Great. Williams
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: likes to blitz. He likes to attack and pack the
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: homes kills it, just like he did against Baltimore. He
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: will kill the blitz. Yeah. Do we really need to
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: talk about this game? Remember the Levan Bell revenge game
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: and he had like three carry's great yards or something.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: To his debut in Miami, he was twelve and twenty
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: two for ninety three yards passing, had a touchdown. He
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: also had a sack fumble on his opening past attempt
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: and what would have been his opening pass attempt in
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: the NFL. He was just average as they come. Didn't
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: have to do anything. Was that the rams On a
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: short week and a long trip. I mean, was that
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: what that was? Or was that Bryan Flores who used
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: the same defense that he used in the Super Bowl
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: when he was a defensive coordinator for the for the Patriots,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: where he played that sixth man front, Tony, remember the
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: sixth man front and then they go empty. Whenever they
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: go empty, they blitzed it. It's exactly what they did.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: And they course golf was terrible. He turned the ball
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: over four times in the first half. Yeah, I didn't
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: see one snap of that game. I was playing golf
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: and I came in. I saw the score. Like man,
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: two of them us had a big day. They had
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: a hundred yards of total offers in one. They got
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: out game by three yards. Is a game watching it
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: because you know you like the eye test. You watched
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: two of what's your first takeaway from the first game?
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: Couldn't couldn't, couldn't tell. You can't tell from that game,
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: you couldn't tell. He didn't have to do anything. He
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: had to do nothing. Okay, when you dropped back, he
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: dropped back twenty two times. What do you look like
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: when you dropped back? He was okay? Fall out quick
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: before I'm standing there waiting for throws and developed. But again,
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: when you're up that big and you get in the game,
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: just tell them they'll turn it over. They had a
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: they had a sack fumble for touchdown, they had a
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: party turn for a touchdown, and then they had a
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: one yard touchdown run that was set up on a
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: fumble return return to the one yard line. I mean,
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: you can't can't screw that up. True, So the Dolphins win.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: The Broncos got a fourth down pass interference and then
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: scored on the final play of the game the extra
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: point wanted thirty one to thirty over the Chargers. The
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: Charges will find new and creative ways to lose games
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: and lose. It's amazing. It's amazing how they always find
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: a way to lose. They had no business losing that game. None.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: Have you giving up leeds this year? Seventeen twice, sixteen,
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: once and twenty one now four times? Is Anthony Lynn
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: in trouble? Yes, yes, I would agree. Saints over the
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: Bears three. There was a big fight on the field.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: Vanna Williams getting two games without pay today after the
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: not really a fight. It was a one way punching fest. Well,
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: he said that Jaunty Garden Johnson spit in his face
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: and pulled his his mouthpiece out, And you can see
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: how to play before where Jaunty Gardener Johnson goes over
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: and pulls his mouthpiece out. He rips it out. So
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: whether he spit on him, who knows, but he waited
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: a play. Remember, Chauncey Gardner Johnson is the same guy
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: that got in the practice fight with Michael Thomas when
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: he got to atended. So masically he's a good instigator.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: You can get maybe, you know, but if you're wins,
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: you gotta be smarter than that. That's just do it
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: during the play. Take a cheap shot so you get
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: just fifteen yards, like do at the bottom of the pile,
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: take a shot here or there. But you can't, I mean,
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: you just can't walk up to the guy and started
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: throwing bolos on him. And it wasn't like he just
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: like pushed his head out. It was like he was
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: doing like round bomber, boom boom. It was bad, Yes,
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: it was yeah, that was yeah. There's nothing worse when
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: you're a scrub and you do something like that. Though
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, Who are you? I
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: mean it was. It was interesting, that's for sure. Seahawks
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: over the forty nine thirty seven seven. The Eagles over
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys last night twenty three to nine. I went
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: to bed. I'm watching Oh my God, and Wench was
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: awful too. But every time they tried to throw past
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: the wind with Day it was terrible all over the
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: league yesterday in the Northeast, the wind was terrible. It
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: was awful. Watching football in Green Bay. Cleveland had like
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: sleet at one point. Uh yeah, it was pretty grosses.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: I hate that. I hate that time for Monday night football.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: The five and two Tampa Bay Buccanteers, led by the
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: goat quarterback Tom Brady. They're facing a team that beat
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: Brady and two Super Bowls. This is far from the
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: same New York Football giants there one in six, but
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: trying to battle through somehow. Who you got tonight at
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium in New Jersey, I mean J J P.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: First of all, I need more energy. That was a
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: week there was no energy there was That was my
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: own energy. Like I didn't like it, Like that was awful. Um.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: I know you're not excited about this because the Giants
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: are terrible and Theers are gonna kill him. But still
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: I need more energy out of you. That was embarrassing. Frankly,
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: he gave you the Doug Moron today. Energy. It's contagious.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: Are you in the building? JP? The five? Yes? I
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: am the five and two Tampa Bay Buccaneers must be.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: It's in the system, led by the goat quarterback Tom
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: Brady facing the New York Football Giants. So this is
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: what it sounded like, very monitory. Usually, JP, you bring
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: it down from the y Who do you have tonight
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: on Monday Night football? Ye? Pull it out? DJ? Would
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: you please tell us what's the matter. You're not feeling good?
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: I feel great good. I thought I brought it. That's okay,
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: obviously not. I'll get it next week. Work on that
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: for the week. We're not sure. We're not sure. You're
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: gonna let you. We're gonna let you do it next week, Peter,
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: I might take over. Thank you screaming yeah, y'all take
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: turns doing this. How about that? I like that idea? No,
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: I like the buck. Come on, that's an easy gad.
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: This Sunday night, though they play this night Sunday Night,
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: did get caught a little bit. Tom Brady doesn't take
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: your head all right, boys, people talk to you, Tony,
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you, okay, see you later, all right,
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: Pete Bristo, Tony VA, Silly Jack, Jaguars Happy Hour, the
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