Latest / The Cryptid Huntress / The Dennis Martin Disappearance - Remote Viewing Investigation
Transcript
- 0:53Speaker 1: Well, good evening, everybody. It's Jessica Jones, the Crypted Huntress,
- 0:58Speaker 1: and thank you guys so much for being here tonight.
- 1:01Speaker 1: We have a wonderful show tonight. This is one that
- 1:05Speaker 1: I had remote you this some while back, and I
- 1:09Speaker 1: was hesitant to ever even do this one because it
- 1:11Speaker 1: does involve a child who has disappeared. But it's a
- 1:15Speaker 1: very well known case out of the Smoky Mountains in Tennessee.
- 1:20Speaker 1: We're going to be talking tonight about the case of
- 1:24Speaker 1: Dennis Martin. Okay, Dennis Martin. You know there's method in
- 1:28Speaker 1: my madness, y'all. Okay, So I'm kind of linking a
- 1:32Speaker 1: lot of our shows that we're doing together at this point,
- 1:35Speaker 1: and this case involves missing children, a missing child, the mountains,
- 1:42Speaker 1: the national parks, missing people, international parks, and underground basis
- 1:48Speaker 1: potentially in the military involvement. So the data is pretty interesting,
- 1:55Speaker 1: to say the least. Okay, And so if you guys
- 1:57Speaker 1: would like to follow along with all of the data
- 2:00Speaker 1: for this show tonight, for this target that involves Dennis Martin,
- 2:04Speaker 1: please go to my patreon and become a member of
- 2:07Speaker 1: my patreon. Thank you to all of my members. You
- 2:10Speaker 1: guys are the best, and I do appreciate each and
- 2:13Speaker 1: every one of y'all. So, yes, this is a very
- 2:16Speaker 1: sensitive topic tonight. It does involve a missing child. And
- 2:21Speaker 1: we did talk with Sherry Divband about a month or
- 2:25Speaker 1: so ago, and she had me remove you her kidnapping
- 2:28Speaker 1: case from when she was a young child. And this
- 2:31Speaker 1: is not much different here other than the fact that
- 2:34Speaker 1: they have not found this child ever, this person has
- 2:37Speaker 1: not been found. This happened in nineteen sixty nine. Okay.
- 2:42Speaker 1: And also I do have doctor Dennis Carrol here in
- 2:45Speaker 1: the studio with me tonight here. He knows a little
- 2:48Speaker 1: bit about this case as well, and we're going to
- 2:51Speaker 1: talk about it. He has been to the Smoky Mountains
- 2:53Speaker 1: on many occasions, and so have I. Okay, so we
- 2:58Speaker 1: know this area. He probably knows it better than I
- 3:00Speaker 1: I do. But it is in the Appalachian Mountains and
- 3:03Speaker 1: it's not too far from some of my research areas. Okay. Well,
- 3:07Speaker 1: if you guys, like I said, if you'd like to
- 3:10Speaker 1: join my Patreon follow along with what I'm doing, please
- 3:13Speaker 1: go to my website that's the Crypti Huntress dot com.
- 3:16Speaker 1: You can find all of my shows there. And this
- 3:19Speaker 1: is my Patreon the Cryptid Huntress over there, if you
- 3:22Speaker 1: guys would like to support the show and the work
- 3:25Speaker 1: that I'm doing here and we're woman Goods. My entire
- 3:30Speaker 1: shop is on sale right now, so if you do
- 3:32Speaker 1: like vintage Native American turquoise jewelry and other fun jewelry
- 3:36Speaker 1: and stuff, go check that out over there. It does
- 3:41Speaker 1: help the cause over here. And also I do have
- 3:45Speaker 1: a special going on right now. I do intuitive card
- 3:48Speaker 1: readings and I have through Sunday, I'm offering them at
- 3:51Speaker 1: a discount. Just send me an email and I will
- 3:54Speaker 1: send you the information for that. If you're interested at
- 3:57Speaker 1: the Cryptid Huntress at gmail dot com. That's good through
- 4:01Speaker 1: this Sunday, Okay, and thank you guys so much. Okay,
- 4:05Speaker 1: Well let's get to our show tonight, shall we, because
- 4:08Speaker 1: we have so much to unpack, and this is this
- 4:13Speaker 1: is another important one. Okay, They're all important. This is
- 4:16Speaker 1: really important, I do believe. On June the thirteenth, nineteen
- 4:20Speaker 1: sixty nine, William Martin took his two sons, Douglas and
- 4:23Speaker 1: Dennis Martin, and his father Clyde on a camping trip
- 4:26Speaker 1: for Father's Day weekend. Their family planned to hide through
- 4:29Speaker 1: the Great Smoky Mountains National Parks Park, and that's part
- 4:33Speaker 1: of a family tradition that they had. They met up
- 4:37Speaker 1: with some family friends the next day and went to
- 4:39Speaker 1: a place called Spencefield. It's a meadow in the Western
- 4:42Speaker 1: Smokies which is known for these beautiful views. And as
- 4:46Speaker 1: the adults were looking out the mountain side, the boys
- 4:50Speaker 1: snook off to trick their parents and decided to hide.
- 4:55Speaker 1: But it didn't go as planned with this prank because
- 4:58Speaker 1: Dennis actually was never found. He disappeared into the woods
- 5:05Speaker 1: and his family never saw him again. His disappearance would
- 5:08Speaker 1: launch the largest search and rescue effort in the park's history.
- 5:12Speaker 1: To this day, some believe that Dennis was kidnapped, potentially
- 5:17Speaker 1: by feral people in the area, or even potentially a
- 5:20Speaker 1: Sasquatch that were known to inhabit the Smoky Mountains. His
- 5:24Speaker 1: disappearance remains a mystery. I was assigned this. This was
- 5:28Speaker 1: testing me as a remote viewing target. I think this
- 5:32Speaker 1: was in February was when I did this one, and
- 5:36Speaker 1: I have all the data here, Like I said, it
- 5:38Speaker 1: is on my Patreon. There's a lot of data with
- 5:42Speaker 1: this one, and we're going to get into this tonight
- 5:45Speaker 1: because the family, you know, out of desperation. I know
- 5:48Speaker 1: I have a young son myself, and if something were
- 5:52Speaker 1: to happen to him, which it won't, Okay, it never will,
- 5:57Speaker 1: God forbid, I would contact my I mean, the first
- 6:00Speaker 1: people I would call would be my remote viewing team. Okay,
- 6:04Speaker 1: And the family did contact a psychic at some point.
- 6:09Speaker 1: Now we're going to get into what happened. The search
- 6:12Speaker 1: and rescue efforts were also going to get into the
- 6:16Speaker 1: follow up to what happened. The FBI did release a
- 6:20Speaker 1: report about it was about two years ago. Was it
- 6:23Speaker 1: two years ago? We'll see, Yeah, in twenty twenty two,
- 6:28Speaker 1: this happened in nineteen sixty nine and twenty twenty two,
- 6:30Speaker 1: they released some information. They released their files. We're going
- 6:33Speaker 1: to get into that tonight too. It's pretty extensive. And
- 6:36Speaker 1: to help me do that tonight, I have my good friend,
- 6:38Speaker 1: doctor Dennis Carrol here in the studio. Dennis has decades
- 6:43Speaker 1: of experience in researching boots on the ground, field research
- 6:46Speaker 1: with cryptids, UFOs paranormally's a demonologist. He pretty much says everything,
- 6:53Speaker 1: and he's an author as well. So he has a
- 6:55Speaker 1: wonderful podcast called Hunting the Shadows that comes on throughout
- 6:59Speaker 1: the week over on YouTube and now he has a
- 7:02Speaker 1: Patreon as well, so please help me. Welcome to the show,
- 7:05Speaker 1: our good friend Dennis Carroll.
- 7:09Speaker 2: Hello, everyone, did to be here. This is a fascinating case.
- 7:13Speaker 2: She's picking here, Jessica, definitely. And you know, I'm just
- 7:16Speaker 2: listening to you as you were talking there about missing
- 7:19Speaker 2: persons and all that. This is a very important subject
- 7:23Speaker 2: because there are so many, so many, many, many missing
- 7:28Speaker 2: persons cases every day that are happening around us, and
- 7:33Speaker 2: it's it's like that there are certain entities out there,
- 7:38Speaker 2: certain people, certain things that are praying on our children.
- 7:42Speaker 2: You know that's not good, and they are targets for
- 7:46Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff, especially now with you all
- 7:48Speaker 2: this trafficking and stuff that's going on in the world.
- 7:52Speaker 2: I remember when this case happened back in sixty nine.
- 7:55Speaker 2: I was a kid myself. I remember well when it happened,
- 7:58Speaker 2: and this was actually one of the largest missing person's
- 8:03Speaker 2: hunts that they ever that ever took place. But they
- 8:07Speaker 2: learned a lot from that. If one good thing came
- 8:09Speaker 2: out of this, it was how they learned to effectively
- 8:14Speaker 2: look for someone. I think the problem with this case
- 8:18Speaker 2: when they were looking for poor little Dunis Martin. There
- 8:21Speaker 2: were too many people in the field. I know that
- 8:24Speaker 2: sounds ridiculous to say, but there were way too many people.
- 8:27Speaker 2: They really screwed it up to a certain degree by
- 8:30Speaker 2: trampling everything and all that. You know, like I've said
- 8:33Speaker 2: before many times, and to me, it's just very relevant
- 8:40Speaker 2: that there are certain ways you investigate anything and you
- 8:43Speaker 2: kind of look upon it many times as if it
- 8:45Speaker 2: were like a crime scene, and that was a crime scene,
- 8:49Speaker 2: I think in my own opinion, and they just completely
- 8:52Speaker 2: obliterated so much of that. That was ridiculous. But back
- 8:56Speaker 2: in the back then, they didn't think that much about
- 8:59Speaker 2: things they do now. But really I think that was
- 9:03Speaker 2: one big detrimental part of this. There were way too
- 9:05Speaker 2: many people looking for this little guy.
- 9:09Speaker 1: There were and look how cute he is. He's the
- 9:11Speaker 1: cutest little six year old. And he was really excited
- 9:16Speaker 1: about going camping with his family. This is something that
- 9:18Speaker 1: they did every year. They would go camping. It was
- 9:21Speaker 1: for Father's Day weekend. He's with his dad, his brother,
- 9:24Speaker 1: and his grandfather, and you know, it's.
- 9:32Speaker 2: I've actually been there where this happened, and actually I
- 9:36Speaker 2: coumped at Cage Cove, which is a beautiful place. You
- 9:40Speaker 2: talk about some of some of the most beautiful scenery
- 9:42Speaker 2: in the world, you will find it there, especially in
- 9:46Speaker 2: the Smoky Mountains, one of my favorite places to be.
- 9:50Speaker 2: And there's a clean one's dome and all that, and
- 9:53Speaker 2: Cage Cove is a very very beautiful area. But there's
- 9:58Speaker 2: also a dark side to this a little bit, you know,
- 10:01Speaker 2: there is a darker side to this. And I had
- 10:04Speaker 2: I remember many years ago, I had a ranger tell
- 10:06Speaker 2: me this, and it's and it's been proven to be
- 10:10Speaker 2: very true. And he said, whenever you go into the woods,
- 10:13Speaker 2: no matter where it is, you always run the chance
- 10:17Speaker 2: of never coming back.
- 10:20Speaker 1: Well, certainly that's very true. Coming from a field researcher,
- 10:26Speaker 1: the research of the appellations, quite often it is the
- 10:30Speaker 1: Appalachian Mountains, Dennis, and we talk about the appellations a lot,
- 10:33Speaker 1: because that is, you don't live too far from the appellations.
- 10:37Speaker 1: And I'm right here, smack dab in the middle of
- 10:39Speaker 1: the appellations and we do a lot of big foot
- 10:42Speaker 1: field research out there. There's a different set of rules
- 10:46Speaker 1: for people in the appellations, okay, And there's actually a
- 10:50Speaker 1: list of rules I guess you could say, or you know,
- 10:54Speaker 1: things to go by when you're in the Appellations, and
- 10:57Speaker 1: because it's just such a place all of its own
- 11:01Speaker 1: that has its own characteristics, very dangerous. I mean, we
- 11:05Speaker 1: are even getting modern day dinosaur sightings in the Appellations,
- 11:10Speaker 1: which is I've experienced bigfoots and dog men and all
- 11:13Speaker 1: sorts of stuff out there. And something that has really
- 11:18Speaker 1: caught my attention with this case are feral people. And
- 11:22Speaker 1: the feral people in the Appellations, especially the Smoky Mountains.
- 11:26Speaker 1: And these are not just people who are living off grid.
- 11:30Speaker 1: These are people who they say are cannibals and will
- 11:33Speaker 1: actually eat humans, okay, and they actually reside there in
- 11:38Speaker 1: the Smoky Mountains. So when you say that this place
- 11:39Speaker 1: is ominous and it has a really bad energy.
- 11:42Speaker 2: To it, well, you know, they live by a different
- 11:45Speaker 2: set of rules. They're survival for survivals of the extreme.
- 11:50Speaker 2: You might say, they will do whatever it takes to
- 11:54Speaker 2: survive and includes eating people. You know, a lot of
- 11:57Speaker 2: people don't realize that the Smoky Mountains, the Apple Mountains
- 12:01Speaker 2: or once part of a huge mountain chain before the
- 12:05Speaker 2: confidence drifted. It's part of the Scottish Highlands. Too, by
- 12:09Speaker 2: the way. And then since you mentioned that there was
- 12:11Speaker 2: a very interesting far Oh person in the Scottish Islands,
- 12:15Speaker 2: you've heard of sawny Bean. I know sawny Bean is
- 12:19Speaker 2: a very famous cannibal family that lived in there, and
- 12:24Speaker 2: you know, it would not surprise me without a doubt.
- 12:27Speaker 2: And I've seen traces of it that they're that's CAGs,
- 12:30Speaker 2: that's CAGs Loop as they call it, some tonnel that
- 12:33Speaker 2: runs through there is I've seen traces of what I
- 12:37Speaker 2: think would be feral people that live out there in
- 12:41Speaker 2: certain areas, especially in their father You got to remember this,
- 12:45Speaker 2: they like to Here's the interesting part about feral people.
- 12:48Speaker 2: They're way out as far away from humanity as they
- 12:51Speaker 2: can get. But once in a while the trails cross, okay,
- 12:56Speaker 2: and that's the way that goes. And I have to
- 12:58Speaker 2: wonder if that might be what you know happens with
- 13:02Speaker 2: a lot of disappearances out there in the Appalachia Mounts
- 13:05Speaker 2: and right and you're there in that very area, Cage Co.
- 13:08Speaker 2: There have been five other people that have mysteriously disappeared,
- 13:13Speaker 2: never to be found again.
- 13:16Speaker 1: Well, we know from the David Politis Missing for one
- 13:18Speaker 1: one series that there are there is a cluster. There
- 13:22Speaker 1: are clusters of missing people all around the United States.
- 13:27Speaker 1: Now it doesn't show a cluster right on top of
- 13:29Speaker 1: the Smoky Mountains, but there are some that are pretty
- 13:31Speaker 1: close to there, and so it makes show wonder. Like
- 13:36Speaker 1: you said, there are there are several cases that have
- 13:38Speaker 1: never been solved of missing people there, and it's around
- 13:42Speaker 1: four or five. That's to me, that's a cluster. I
- 13:45Speaker 1: don't know how many people have to make up a cluster.
- 13:48Speaker 1: I forgot. I've read the North America Missing for one
- 13:51Speaker 1: one series, and I've also had Steve Stockton on the
- 13:54Speaker 1: show Steve Stockton with Among the Missing and what is it? Uh?
- 14:00Speaker 1: Among the mything? It's his YouTube channel in his podcast.
- 14:04Speaker 1: You know, he was very he's this case is near
- 14:07Speaker 1: and dear to Steve, and you know, there's there's just
- 14:12Speaker 1: a lot. If anybody knows missing people, it's Steve. Okay,
- 14:16Speaker 1: and the stories up there. But he's actually from Knoxville,
- 14:19Speaker 1: and and this is close to where this was Where
- 14:21Speaker 1: this was, I think it was closer to Chattanooga. I
- 14:24Speaker 1: think near like Gatlinburg area where this happened. However, missing people, Okay,
- 14:31Speaker 1: one is too many. One is too many. But these
- 14:34Speaker 1: are like people who are never found and there's no
- 14:37Speaker 1: explanation as to where they went. Okay, and so but
- 14:41Speaker 1: like and and we have to also take into consideration
- 14:45Speaker 1: this place is teeming with bigfoots. Okay, and and I've
- 14:49Speaker 1: heard that, I know, I know the appellations where we
- 14:52Speaker 1: go have a lot of bigfoot activity. But this is
- 14:55Speaker 1: the cave system map underneath the picture or the map
- 14:59Speaker 1: of the missing persons from David plaitis is missing for
- 15:02Speaker 1: one one book.
- 15:05Speaker 2: Well, you know we're talking about that before or wherever
- 15:07Speaker 2: there are so many big foot sidings. You have a
- 15:10Speaker 2: lot of cave systems, and you have a lot of
- 15:12Speaker 2: missing person's cases around, especially in national parks and national
- 15:18Speaker 2: force because a lot of those places, like the Smoky
- 15:22Speaker 2: Mountains are very desolate places. I mean, you know your way.
- 15:27Speaker 2: When we think about it's just when it comes to
- 15:30Speaker 2: our mind. A lot of times when we think of
- 15:32Speaker 2: woods and forests, we think of a park nearby, a
- 15:35Speaker 2: little small barkers. When you go out in places like that,
- 15:39Speaker 2: you are miles and miles away from real civilization. Okay,
- 15:45Speaker 2: You're in a different world. You're in a different environment
- 15:50Speaker 2: completely from anything close to a city. Or town or
- 15:53Speaker 2: even a small village. You are way out in the
- 15:56Speaker 2: middle of nowhere and you're talking. You're talking about desolate
- 15:59Speaker 2: and a place where anything could happen, and sometimes emotionally
- 16:04Speaker 2: it does.
- 16:06Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean all the roles go out the
- 16:08Speaker 1: window out there in the appellations and hey, Desiree, that's
- 16:11Speaker 1: my good friend Desiree. Y'all, we have a wonderful chat tonight.
- 16:15Speaker 1: A lot of people are very informed on what's what
- 16:19Speaker 1: this case is about and what happened, and so thank
- 16:23Speaker 1: you guys. And I see a lot of wonderful comments.
- 16:25Speaker 1: There is a fascination with feral people right now, and
- 16:29Speaker 1: I'm one of those people that is fascinated by it.
- 16:32Speaker 1: I'm terrified but fascinated at the same time, and especially
- 16:37Speaker 1: with the cannibals. There's enough to worry about out and field.
- 16:42Speaker 1: That's why I'm always armed. I know, I don't care
- 16:44Speaker 1: if people get mad at that. It is what it is.
- 16:47Speaker 1: But I'm always armed, and partly because of cannibalistic feral people. Okay,
- 16:53Speaker 1: but I haven't come across any in all my days
- 16:55Speaker 1: out in the field. But it doesn't mean they're not there.
- 16:58Speaker 1: It doesn't at all.
- 17:00Speaker 2: Here's the bad thing about the federal people. If you
- 17:03Speaker 2: run into them or encounter them, it's not gonna end
- 17:05Speaker 2: good for you usually okay, because they're gonna make sure
- 17:09Speaker 2: you don't leave their vicinity. Put it that way. They're
- 17:13Speaker 2: gonna do what they need to do. And believe, these
- 17:15Speaker 2: people follow no rules whatsoever. There's no morals to them.
- 17:22Speaker 2: They're gonna kill what they need to kill and do
- 17:24Speaker 2: what they need to do to survive. That's just the
- 17:28Speaker 2: way they look at life. And like I say, these
- 17:31Speaker 2: are some of the most dangerous individuals you could ever encounter.
- 17:36Speaker 2: I think I'd rather walk up on beefoot myself than
- 17:39Speaker 2: to walk up on a fair all human.
- 17:41Speaker 1: Me too, Me too. Jason H has a really good
- 17:45Speaker 1: comment here, says, I wonder if that overlays with the
- 17:47Speaker 1: dumps the deep underground military basis. What's funny, you ask,
- 17:52Speaker 1: because yes it does. The cave systems and the missing
- 17:56Speaker 1: for one one clusters do line up with the underground
- 18:01Speaker 1: deep underground military bases. Now, this is probably not all
- 18:04Speaker 1: of them. This is just a a map that shows
- 18:07Speaker 1: what could be.
- 18:08Speaker 2: This is just a that's definitely the way of the
- 18:11Speaker 2: dumbs go, Jessica, because they want them in out of
- 18:13Speaker 2: the way places where nobody can observe what goes on
- 18:17Speaker 2: with those things, because you've got it. No matter how
- 18:19Speaker 2: deep the underground motary base, there is a top to it.
- 18:22Speaker 2: There is an opening somewhere or gate or some way
- 18:26Speaker 2: to get to it. So they have to go into
- 18:29Speaker 2: out of the way places, very much like what we're
- 18:32Speaker 2: talking about tone places where you don't have a lot
- 18:36Speaker 2: of human traffic.
- 18:38Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Now that last map I showed, I
- 18:41Speaker 1: think that's actually the potential entrances to enter Earth, which
- 18:46Speaker 1: aligns also with the deep underground military bases and the
- 18:50Speaker 1: UFO maps, the UFO sightings, the Bigfoot sightings map. They're
- 18:54Speaker 1: all connected. Okay, they're all connected. They're all generally the
- 18:57Speaker 1: same map.
- 19:00Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, Okay, I'm not said. Over the years they
- 19:05Speaker 2: overlap each other and drastically, and along with the cave
- 19:09Speaker 2: systems so called underground bases, and the UFO activity and
- 19:14Speaker 2: Bigfoot activity that goes on in these places. And like
- 19:19Speaker 2: you say, there is a definite connection going on here.
- 19:22Speaker 2: You'd have to be really dumb not to see it.
- 19:25Speaker 2: It is very obvious what's going on with that.
- 19:28Speaker 1: Yeah, for shore Okay, well we okay, so Sen's the hobbit,
- 19:35Speaker 1: says has been talking about the feral people actually and
- 19:39Speaker 1: says that they're called the Bean clan. Okay, I didn't
- 19:43Speaker 1: know the name of them, but this is this person
- 19:45Speaker 1: says that. Senn says it's the Bean clan. And there
- 19:49Speaker 1: were over forty people in that Bean plan and I
- 19:51Speaker 1: think it was in the fifteen hundredth.
- 19:54Speaker 2: Tommy Bean was actually in the whole family was the
- 19:57Speaker 2: Bean family. They lived in a cave by the way,
- 20:00Speaker 2: They lived in caves in the Scottish Island, so they
- 20:03Speaker 2: had to actually send a whole regiment of soldiers to
- 20:06Speaker 2: wipe them out. They caught, they captured some of them,
- 20:09Speaker 2: brought them back and hung them, but they wiped most
- 20:12Speaker 2: of them out. It was a very large, very inbred
- 20:15Speaker 2: family of animals, and they would actually waylay people across
- 20:21Speaker 2: going through the highway or the trail there and take
- 20:25Speaker 2: them back to the cave and rob them of everything
- 20:28Speaker 2: they had and saughter them and then cook them and
- 20:30Speaker 2: eat them.
- 20:32Speaker 1: Okay, well that's horrible, Okay, it's horrible.
- 20:36Speaker 2: You know.
- 20:37Speaker 1: I just I just got a old a flashback of
- 20:38Speaker 1: another target that I did a remote viewing target that
- 20:41Speaker 1: our Kim Rag gave me of the robot Grandma at
- 20:44Speaker 1: Mount Shasta, and that involved a kidnapped child too, who
- 20:50Speaker 1: claimed to be taken off into a cave by a
- 20:52Speaker 1: woman who looked like his grandma. He called her robot
- 20:55Speaker 1: Grandma because her eyes looked different and she was he
- 21:00Speaker 1: said that he described as a robot because a robot
- 21:03Speaker 1: is controlled by a remote control, and that's how she
- 21:05Speaker 1: acted like a robot robotic. But when he said that,
- 21:09Speaker 1: when he went into this cave, there were people's belongings.
- 21:12Speaker 1: There were wallets and pants and shoes and hats and
- 21:16Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff that belonged to people that had
- 21:19Speaker 1: cobwebs and dust all over them. And mannequins or some
- 21:22Speaker 1: kind of like mannequins, he said, inanimate people were in
- 21:27Speaker 1: this cave. So it just kind of makes you wonder.
- 21:30Speaker 1: So if we're just kind of like putting pieces together
- 21:32Speaker 1: of a puzzle, this is just another piece, I think,
- 21:36Speaker 1: to whatever the bigger picture is that we're looking for
- 21:38Speaker 1: right now. So, yeah, cannibals. I hopefully we don't have
- 21:43Speaker 1: a whole lot of cannibals left in the appellations, but
- 21:47Speaker 1: we probably do. We probably do. Okay, So let's kind
- 21:51Speaker 1: of get into what happened with Dennis, okay, because I
- 21:55Speaker 1: want to go through the day of when he disappeared,
- 21:59Speaker 1: what happened, what led up to it, and what happened afterwards.
- 22:03Speaker 1: And then then we'll get into my data okay where
- 22:06Speaker 1: I remote viewed this, and then we're going to get
- 22:08Speaker 1: into the update that the FBI put out. They put
- 22:11Speaker 1: out their files after this, okay two years ago.
- 22:19Speaker 2: I've said a couple of times on my show, Uh,
- 22:22Speaker 2: some things look upon us as being furthered down on
- 22:25Speaker 2: the food chain, and we need to understand that we're
- 22:28Speaker 2: not the top of the food chain. Okay, Well, are
- 22:30Speaker 2: definitely not at the top, and there are some other
- 22:33Speaker 2: things that consider us a few rungs down below that.
- 22:36Speaker 2: So we got to remember that, especially children are targets,
- 22:42Speaker 2: prime targets or some of these individuals whoever or whatever
- 22:47Speaker 2: they may be, h they're out looking for something like that.
- 22:51Speaker 2: And uh, when the yeah, FBI I first put this out,
- 22:54Speaker 2: I think it's been a while back. I read a
- 22:57Speaker 2: lot of it, and it was one interesting aspect, Dolly,
- 23:01Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember reading any of that
- 23:03Speaker 2: about the other individual that was seen on the trail
- 23:09Speaker 2: supposedly near where Dennis disappeared. That's very interesting. That was
- 23:15Speaker 2: very interesting me. Yeah, it was discounted at the time.
- 23:17Speaker 2: That was very strange that it was, because it was
- 23:22Speaker 2: it was further away from the trail, further on down
- 23:25Speaker 2: the trail, so many miles of things. But still that
- 23:29Speaker 2: was kind of very odd. Siding you want, you can
- 23:33Speaker 2: tell everybody about that, you know what I'm talking about.
- 23:37Speaker 1: Well, it's all very odd because it's like the searching.
- 23:42Speaker 1: The search was odd in itself because and how about
- 23:47Speaker 1: how about I get into the story and then we'll
- 23:48Speaker 1: get into the search. Okay, let me get in the
- 23:50Speaker 1: story first, because it's all it all kind of has
- 23:55Speaker 1: to bleed into the next so to speak. Okay. And
- 23:58Speaker 1: and it was really odd because the Special Forces Green
- 24:01Speaker 1: Berets were called out for this, which was really odd.
- 24:04Speaker 1: And the FBI, but of course this is federal land, okay,
- 24:08Speaker 1: it is a national park and and so but they
- 24:11Speaker 1: didn't really want to do have anything to do with it.
- 24:14Speaker 1: They discounted the story pretty early saying no, he was
- 24:19Speaker 1: he had some learning disabilities, and they just said, no,
- 24:22Speaker 1: he he got lost and he's he's unalive. He's dead, basically,
- 24:28Speaker 1: is what they They just assumed, and uh and that's
- 24:31Speaker 1: what they wanted, that's what they wanted to believe, and
- 24:33Speaker 1: that's what they wrote down. But it's just it reeks
- 24:35Speaker 1: of some sort of a weird cover up. Okay, if
- 24:38Speaker 1: you ask me and everyone who watches my shows, y'all
- 24:41Speaker 1: know that a lot of these targets I get are
- 24:45Speaker 1: cover ups of some sort, and there is something being
- 24:48Speaker 1: hidden in our national parks. It's just it is what
- 24:51Speaker 1: it is. Okay. So let me pull up these pictures
- 24:55Speaker 1: of Dennis. Okay, So Dennis, Dennis Martin here, he is
- 24:59Speaker 1: right here. Okay. Dennis was set off. He went off
- 25:05Speaker 1: hiking with his family. Okay, he went up with his
- 25:07Speaker 1: dad and his brother and his granddaddy, and they were
- 25:09Speaker 1: He was wearing a red T shirt, which is important
- 25:12Speaker 1: because red is in my data, by the way, but
- 25:15Speaker 1: it was his. He was a sick. He was six
- 25:17Speaker 1: years old. This was his very first camping trip. He
- 25:20Speaker 1: was with this family. He was super excited. It was
- 25:22Speaker 1: Father's Day weekend and the first day they got there,
- 25:26Speaker 1: they hiked in. They stayed. I think they stayed at
- 25:28Speaker 1: some kind of shelter, is what they called it like
- 25:32Speaker 1: a shelter, and then they moved from that shelter. The
- 25:37Speaker 1: next day, they had big plans. They were going to
- 25:39Speaker 1: hike some more and go hang out. They met up
- 25:42Speaker 1: with another family. This wasn't On June the fourteenth, nineteen
- 25:46Speaker 1: sixty nine, Dennis and his brother were hanging out with
- 25:51Speaker 1: some other kids from a family they had met out there,
- 25:54Speaker 1: and the family, the adults were out there not paying
- 25:57Speaker 1: attention too much to the kids were kind of looking
- 26:00Speaker 1: at the mountains and admiring the scenery. And the kids
- 26:04Speaker 1: decided they were going to run off and go hide
- 26:06Speaker 1: and try to scare their parents. And that's a big
- 26:10Speaker 1: no no. If you if you know the Missing for
- 26:13Speaker 1: one ONEMO, you know the David Plaita series, you know
- 26:17Speaker 1: that you don't keep your eyes take your eyes off
- 26:19Speaker 1: your kids for one second because they just people can
- 26:22Speaker 1: disappear in just a split second. But in this case,
- 26:26Speaker 1: the dad actually saw Dennis go hide behind a bush,
- 26:31Speaker 1: and so he knew he was behind this bush, he said,
- 26:34Speaker 1: and uh so when the kids jumped out and said surprise,
- 26:37Speaker 1: and you know, they tried to treat their family, Dennis
- 26:40Speaker 1: never came out from behind that bush.
- 26:43Speaker 2: And so.
- 26:45Speaker 1: The and it was really odd because Dennis's shirt was
- 26:49Speaker 1: red and it kind of stood out from the greenery
- 26:51Speaker 1: and everybody could see him. But in a split second
- 26:54Speaker 1: he was gone. Minutes went by, and Dennis's dad got worried,
- 27:01Speaker 1: and so he ended up calling for Dennis, and he
- 27:04Speaker 1: ended up running down this hiking trail. He went down
- 27:06Speaker 1: a trail like two miles, they said, like calling for him,
- 27:10Speaker 1: and they searched the forest. They went up and down
- 27:12Speaker 1: the trails looking for him, and they were calling him
- 27:15Speaker 1: and they got no response, which was really scary for them.
- 27:18Speaker 1: And they didn't have any radios, they had no CBS,
- 27:21Speaker 1: they had no walkie talkies, they had nothing to communicate.
- 27:24Speaker 1: They didn't have a cell phone, of course, they didn't
- 27:25Speaker 1: have cell phones back then. And so Dennis's grandfather hiked
- 27:30Speaker 1: nine miles to the cade's cove Ranger station for help.
- 27:35Speaker 1: I mean, that's a long hike. Then when night came,
- 27:40Speaker 1: a thunderstorm moved in and within a matter of hours,
- 27:42Speaker 1: the storm threw down like three inches of rain. The mountains,
- 27:46Speaker 1: washed out the trails, and it left no evidence of
- 27:49Speaker 1: Dennis anywhere. And Dennis, Okay, so you're bow dentists. You Dnnis,
- 27:55Speaker 1: Doctor Dennis.
- 27:57Speaker 2: This isn't.
- 27:58Speaker 1: One of the characteristics of the Missing four one one
- 28:00Speaker 1: series is that when people go missing, a huge storm
- 28:05Speaker 1: will sweep through the area and it washes out all
- 28:08Speaker 1: the footprints, all the tracks. This is no different, no
- 28:13Speaker 1: different at all. And I said most of footprints were
- 28:16Speaker 1: swept away by the deluge, okay, by all the rain.
- 28:21Speaker 1: At five am the next morning, the search for Dnnis commenced.
- 28:26Speaker 1: The National Park Service put together a crew of thirty
- 28:29Speaker 1: people and that search party went up to two hundred
- 28:33Speaker 1: and forty people as volunteers poured in when they found
- 28:36Speaker 1: out there was a missing boy. It continued all day
- 28:42Speaker 1: and then day after day after day after day with
- 28:44Speaker 1: no side of him. Helicopters and planes took to the
- 28:48Speaker 1: air and they were searching the entire National Park for him.
- 28:54Speaker 1: And on June the twentieth, that was Dennis's seventh birthday,
- 28:58Speaker 1: eight hundred people had participated in this search, and they
- 29:02Speaker 1: included the Air, National Guard, the US Coast Guard, and
- 29:06Speaker 1: the National Park Service. Then the number of searchers came
- 29:12Speaker 1: to fourteen hundred one. Four hundred people were out there
- 29:15Speaker 1: looking for him. You can imagine like that's a lot
- 29:17Speaker 1: of people to search. I mean, there's a lot of
- 29:19Speaker 1: ground to cover too, but that's a lot of people
- 29:21Speaker 1: stepping on potential signed we call that sign and tracking, okay,
- 29:27Speaker 1: print clothing, any kind of like twigs breaking. I mean,
- 29:30Speaker 1: that's just a lot of people in that area looking
- 29:34Speaker 1: for that kid. So about a week into the search,
- 29:38Speaker 1: the National Park Service put in a plan on what
- 29:40Speaker 1: to do if they were covered Dennis's body, because at
- 29:42Speaker 1: this point they figured they were probably gonna end up
- 29:44Speaker 1: finding his body because he probably couldn't have survived that
- 29:48Speaker 1: long by himself. And at thirteen thousand hours of searching
- 29:53Speaker 1: came up with nothing, and they were worried that, like
- 29:57Speaker 1: I said, the search crew had pretty much destroyed a
- 29:59Speaker 1: lot of if there were clues, they probably destroyed it
- 30:01Speaker 1: with all those people out there. And it became clearer
- 30:05Speaker 1: as the days went by that he wasn't going to
- 30:06Speaker 1: be found. And let's see the father. Dennis's father actually
- 30:12Speaker 1: put up a reward for five thousand dollars for any
- 30:16Speaker 1: kind of help in locating his son and to get
- 30:19Speaker 1: any kind of information on what happened to his son.
- 30:22Speaker 1: Five thousand dollars today would be around forty thousand dollars
- 30:25Speaker 1: for us. I mean, good lord, inflation is crazy, but
- 30:28Speaker 1: it'd be around forty thousand dollars today. And in response,
- 30:32Speaker 1: they received a bunch of calls from psychics who claimed
- 30:36Speaker 1: to know what had happened to their son. And I'm
- 30:39Speaker 1: not listen in a case of and I've been asked
- 30:43Speaker 1: to do things like this, in a case of losing
- 30:46Speaker 1: your child, you'd do anything to find out where your
- 30:49Speaker 1: child is, okay, anything. And I have actually been contacted
- 30:54Speaker 1: by several lots of people actually to see if I
- 30:56Speaker 1: would help do removviewing to help locate their loved ones
- 31:00Speaker 1: who had gone missing. One actually, yeah, I got. I
- 31:05Speaker 1: was given a blind target by Bryce, a esoteric Atlanta
- 31:09Speaker 1: that turned out to be mar and Murray. And I
- 31:11Speaker 1: did a show on that, you guys. I did put
- 31:13Speaker 1: it on my channels in the playlist. A family representative
- 31:16Speaker 1: of hers did contact me at some point and said
- 31:19Speaker 1: that I was my data was on target with stuff
- 31:22Speaker 1: they hadn't released yet. Okay, the police had not released
- 31:26Speaker 1: And so any kind of any kind of information helps.
- 31:29Speaker 1: And when it comes to you losing a loved one
- 31:32Speaker 1: and you don't know where your child is, contact a
- 31:35Speaker 1: psychic get a remote viewer, Okay, anything that will help
- 31:39Speaker 1: do that. So but psychic started reaching out to them
- 31:42Speaker 1: saying that they knew where the child was, they had information,
- 31:47Speaker 1: but people just kind of assumed that he probably had
- 31:49Speaker 1: been abducted, someone had kidnapped him, or he had been
- 31:52Speaker 1: taken by a bear and eaten, or maybe feral people
- 31:58Speaker 1: or even Bigfoot. Okay, And that's why it's it's super
- 32:03Speaker 1: interesting for me to do this because I'm the cryptand huntress. Okay,
- 32:07Speaker 1: I'm the cryptand hundress. So when Bigfoot's involved, I gotta
- 32:11Speaker 1: I gotta people send me targets like this when that happens.
- 32:16Speaker 2: But but there, you know, you gotta look at the
- 32:19Speaker 2: big pictures. Yes, okay, when something like when you disappear
- 32:23Speaker 2: like that, Okay, let's look at the obvious. You either
- 32:26Speaker 2: wander off and get lost, or you either have an accident,
- 32:32Speaker 2: fall down in a gully or a stream or whatever,
- 32:36Speaker 2: or somebody takes you. And I think, you know, you
- 32:41Speaker 2: got to look at it in these three directions. Somebody
- 32:44Speaker 2: either took him in an accident or he wandered off.
- 32:49Speaker 2: I don't think he wandered off. I just don't have
- 32:52Speaker 2: that feeling that that you don't, because his father started
- 32:55Speaker 2: looking for him immediately. Okay, yeah, had a red shirt on.
- 33:01Speaker 2: I mean, think about all these flags that are popping
- 33:03Speaker 2: up here. You know, he had a red shirt on.
- 33:05Speaker 2: Follow immediately started looking for him. I believe he could
- 33:09Speaker 2: have either fallen down some big hole or shout. Let
- 33:12Speaker 2: me say this. I've been in the woods a lot.
- 33:14Speaker 2: I've come up on some very dark, deep holes. Usually
- 33:18Speaker 2: they are old whales from old homesteads and stuff. That's
- 33:23Speaker 2: a possibility too, But the thorough search that they did
- 33:27Speaker 2: would I believe, have turned up something like that. So
- 33:30Speaker 2: I think the only possibility we have left is something
- 33:33Speaker 2: took him right.
- 33:37Speaker 1: Yes, Darreld's in the shade hair. Daryl Darreld's one of
- 33:40Speaker 1: my teammates, and he is very familiar with the portal
- 33:44Speaker 1: that our team documented, and that is that is a possibility.
- 33:49Speaker 1: A probability as well is walking into something and just
- 33:53Speaker 1: never being seen again. And so that is one hundred
- 33:57Speaker 1: percent of possibility here, and.
- 34:01Speaker 2: We can't where that has happened. I think, without a doubt,
- 34:04Speaker 2: I believe that happens a lot. There's a lot of
- 34:07Speaker 2: these certain missing person's cations. It's almost as if they're
- 34:11Speaker 2: stepping through a door and boom, they're gone. They're not
- 34:14Speaker 2: here anymore. There's somewhere else, you know, I like to
- 34:17Speaker 2: call the other where somewhere or other than where we're
- 34:21Speaker 2: at right now. That's a possibility. You look at, you know,
- 34:26Speaker 2: and look at how big the search was, and of course,
- 34:28Speaker 2: like I said, it was not it was very detrimental
- 34:31Speaker 2: to the search itself. Where they had green berets, they
- 34:33Speaker 2: had boy scouts, they had search parties, they had dogs
- 34:39Speaker 2: looking for them, and what they and what those people
- 34:42Speaker 2: the evidence they obliterated and didn't get a blad. The
- 34:45Speaker 2: rain did the rest of it. There was like three
- 34:48Speaker 2: inches of rain that day. And if you've ever been
- 34:51Speaker 2: in the mountains or a lot of rain, you know
- 34:52Speaker 2: there's what flooding that takes place very quickly. And then
- 34:57Speaker 2: also on top of that fifty degree way that's kind
- 35:02Speaker 2: of chilly if you and I especially if you're wet
- 35:05Speaker 2: and cold and wet, So you've got a lot of
- 35:07Speaker 2: factors here that really and this storm that came out
- 35:11Speaker 2: of nowhere, and you know, like you you touched on
- 35:14Speaker 2: that just now. That seemed to happen a lot in
- 35:16Speaker 2: some of these cases, it's almost as if it's planned
- 35:20Speaker 2: that way. That's the weird kind of af fricky way
- 35:23Speaker 2: to look at it. Whether it is almost as if
- 35:25Speaker 2: there's some kind of a plan in action on that,
- 35:29Speaker 2: because I have seen that so many times, either snowstorms
- 35:32Speaker 2: or rain storms usually obliterate very valuable evidence you need
- 35:38Speaker 2: in cases like that.
- 35:40Speaker 1: It is, it is suspicious, it is. I want to
- 35:42Speaker 1: pull this comment up again, and this is from down Moore.
- 35:45Speaker 1: Hey don It says I heard testimony that agents found
- 35:48Speaker 1: a cave with cannibal ferals and Dennis's bone remains were
- 35:52Speaker 1: in the cave. Agents unalived all the occupants. They were
- 35:56Speaker 1: not fully human nor imbred. That's I actually heard the
- 36:01Speaker 1: same thing. I've heard that too, and so that's why.
- 36:04Speaker 1: And I think you're going to find the data quite
- 36:07Speaker 1: interesting actually tonight. So I think I had mentioned earlier
- 36:13Speaker 1: that the FBI people that were looking into this, they
- 36:17Speaker 1: were really pushing the narrative of you know, he got
- 36:20Speaker 1: lost in the elements and he's deceased. He had to
- 36:24Speaker 1: be He's got to be deceased. There's just no you know,
- 36:27Speaker 1: there weren't a whole lot of suspicious people there. They
- 36:31Speaker 1: had interviewed everybody they could, and they just said that
- 36:35Speaker 1: they thought he had gotten lost in the woods according
- 36:37Speaker 1: to their reports. Of course, the terrain was very steep,
- 36:41Speaker 1: they had ravines and anything. I mean, it's really easy
- 36:45Speaker 1: to get lost in the woods, and it's even easier
- 36:48Speaker 1: to fall down a ravine and never be seen again
- 36:51Speaker 1: or into a hole or something. And also wildlife could
- 36:55Speaker 1: have attacked the child. There were bears, coyotes.
- 37:00Speaker 2: And you have you have flash floods on mountains too.
- 37:03Speaker 2: They can you away very quickly as well, or down
- 37:06Speaker 2: into a creek or whatever the situation is. Your body
- 37:09Speaker 2: could be tossed and turned for miles down a stream
- 37:13Speaker 2: like that, or get caught in the rocks or whatever
- 37:16Speaker 2: the situation is. There are a lot of things you
- 37:19Speaker 2: can look at with this case, and people have looked
- 37:21Speaker 2: at it over the years. There's so many different interesting
- 37:25Speaker 2: possibilities of what could have actually taken place. Portals, big food, countimel,
- 37:31Speaker 2: feral people. I mean, there was even one FBI report
- 37:36Speaker 2: of a very scruffy looking guy seen and this was
- 37:41Speaker 2: like several days later on a trail not far from there.
- 37:47Speaker 2: He was saying he was really scruffy looking, very fair
- 37:49Speaker 2: looking person and he was carrying something over his shoulder
- 37:54Speaker 2: on a the trail and somebody actually sighted him. And
- 37:57Speaker 2: then on the I think several hours after this disappearance
- 38:01Speaker 2: of Dennis, there was a horrible scream heard in the
- 38:06Speaker 2: forest too, supposedly by some poles. You've got a lot
- 38:09Speaker 2: of interesting possibilities here.
- 38:14Speaker 1: Yeah, and you mentioned the wells. Okay, we're talking about
- 38:17Speaker 1: the wells. Susan says. Falling in a well certainly as
- 38:20Speaker 1: a possibility. Some will openings are quite small, just big
- 38:22Speaker 1: enough for a small child to slide down and be injured.
- 38:26Speaker 1: Lack of oxygen for being squeezed could have unlived him. Okay.
- 38:29Speaker 1: One of the spots that my team goes to, Darryl
- 38:32Speaker 1: knows about this too. We have to be very careful
- 38:36Speaker 1: at night because especially at night, even in the daytime,
- 38:39Speaker 1: because there are wells and they are not covered at all,
- 38:44Speaker 1: and to be really easy to fall down in one
- 38:47Speaker 1: of those and very dangerous, but super dangerous. That's why
- 38:51Speaker 1: you don't want to take your dogs out there and stuff,
- 38:54Speaker 1: because the dogs will run ahead of you, and falling
- 38:55Speaker 1: a well you never you have a hard time getting
- 38:57Speaker 1: it out.
- 38:58Speaker 2: I've encountered a few of those myself, and then some
- 39:01Speaker 2: of them didn't seem like they had bottoms to them.
- 39:04Speaker 2: And also there aren't certain naturally occurring caves that are
- 39:08Speaker 2: in the ground like that that can that can be
- 39:11Speaker 2: very deep as well. And here's the interesting genus thing, Jessica.
- 39:15Speaker 2: The openings are not that big. On some of these things.
- 39:18Speaker 2: You could easily step into it if you weren't looking there.
- 39:21Speaker 2: Some of them are no bigger than some of these
- 39:24Speaker 2: meter covers that you see, you know, in front of
- 39:28Speaker 2: your house or something. They're not very big. And what
- 39:32Speaker 2: happens is the overgrowth takes goes over the hole. Okay,
- 39:36Speaker 2: that's what makes them so dangerous. The hole is still there,
- 39:39Speaker 2: but overgrowth, grass, weeds and all that cover it up
- 39:43Speaker 2: and you can't see it. And you have to be
- 39:45Speaker 2: very careful in the woods in places like that. Because
- 39:48Speaker 2: I've gotten around a lot on my own self, I
- 39:51Speaker 2: could see where somebody could disappear down a hole like
- 39:54Speaker 2: that very easily and still not be seen even if
- 39:56Speaker 2: you went looking for them. You might miss that's two
- 40:01Speaker 2: or three foot area that you're looking at that might
- 40:04Speaker 2: be covered with wieze or something. It would be reasonable
- 40:08Speaker 2: to think that too, you know, you.
- 40:09Speaker 1: Know, and those would make a good booby trap. Okay,
- 40:13Speaker 1: if you are living out in the woods, you could
- 40:15Speaker 1: make that a booby trap. I'm just saying I have
- 40:17Speaker 1: to think, I have to think like that. Okay, survivalist
- 40:20Speaker 1: skills and Darryl says, we are train trackers.
- 40:23Speaker 2: Jess, I know.
- 40:24Speaker 1: We're train trackers. We know the only way to move
- 40:26Speaker 1: without leaving a trace is to move above the ground
- 40:29Speaker 1: or in another timeline. Yeah. I love the way Daryl thinks.
- 40:34Speaker 1: That's the way we have to think because we've experienced
- 40:35Speaker 1: so much weird stuff out in the woods. Digger Docks
- 40:38Speaker 1: says they were told the FBI information never relayed. Special
- 40:42Speaker 1: Forces probably took them.
- 40:46Speaker 2: Will that be that far as edged? If do? You don't.
- 40:50Speaker 2: Are you familiar with what a tiger pit is?
- 40:53Speaker 1: Yes, I am. I was thinking of a tiger.
- 40:56Speaker 2: Pit when I thought about tiger pitch and the feral
- 40:59Speaker 2: people supposed they make those to capture people in Sometimes
- 41:04Speaker 2: that's another booby trap. You made me think about that.
- 41:07Speaker 2: When you say booby trap, that's another way that they
- 41:11Speaker 2: get people with tiger kits.
- 41:14Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, oh, this is interesting. D you see, Joey
- 41:17Speaker 1: says I wish I knew what the FBI agent knew
- 41:20Speaker 1: that caused him to take his life. Pretty clear there's
- 41:23Speaker 1: something he couldn't live with that stressed him out enough
- 41:25Speaker 1: to do that. Okay, So we hear about that a
- 41:27Speaker 1: lot with cases, especially these days when things are being
- 41:31Speaker 1: covered up the law enforcement, Like mass numbers of people
- 41:36Speaker 1: will end up taking their own lives and stuff. Yes,
- 41:39Speaker 1: makes it more suspicious.
- 41:41Speaker 2: That's a sort of occupational hazard in law enforcement. You
- 41:46Speaker 2: get emotionally involved in something, especially like the disappearance of
- 41:50Speaker 2: a child, it affects you greatly, and of course other
- 41:56Speaker 2: pressures on you too. All all that sort of caves
- 41:59Speaker 2: in on you. Know, it would not not be the
- 42:01Speaker 2: information that you found out because you do that, but
- 42:04Speaker 2: it could be the emotional output that's going on with it.
- 42:08Speaker 2: You know, it's a very deep psychological thing, especially if
- 42:12Speaker 2: you've got a child like that and listen, missing and
- 42:14Speaker 2: it's just up to you just trying to find out
- 42:16Speaker 2: what it is. You're under a lot of pressure and
- 42:19Speaker 2: you're desperately trying to find out and you feel like
- 42:21Speaker 2: you fail. You know, that has a very depressing wait
- 42:26Speaker 2: on you. You know, I can see where something like
- 42:30Speaker 2: that would affect.
- 42:30Speaker 1: Someone, Yes, it would, it would. Okay, let's talk about
- 42:38Speaker 1: this real quick, because there was a person who came
- 42:41Speaker 1: forward years years after Dennis disappeared who was a Gensing hunter. Okay,
- 42:48Speaker 1: a person looking for gen C. Now that is actually illegal.
- 42:51Speaker 1: You're not supposed to do that on federal land and stuff.
- 42:53Speaker 1: You're not supposed to go. Honey, I don't even know
- 42:55Speaker 1: if you're supposed to pick genzing it's good for you,
- 42:57Speaker 1: so it's probably illegal. Okay, just saying, I don't know
- 43:01Speaker 1: what the walls are on Gensing, but I know I've
- 43:03Speaker 1: been told you're not supposed to pick it. I don't know,
- 43:06Speaker 1: but he this gentleman said that he had come across
- 43:10Speaker 1: a child's skeleton out in that same area, about three
- 43:14Speaker 1: miles downhill from where Dennis went missing. The man waited
- 43:18Speaker 1: to report the skeleton since he'd illegally taken Gensen from
- 43:22Speaker 1: the National Park in nineteen eighty five. It is when
- 43:26Speaker 1: he contacted the National Park Service. They put together a
- 43:30Speaker 1: sn R, a search and rescue group of thirty people,
- 43:33Speaker 1: and they could not find that skeleton. But this was
- 43:35Speaker 1: years later. So Dennis, you and I both know that
- 43:40Speaker 1: bodies don't stick around, very long bones get dispersed, and
- 43:43Speaker 1: there are a lot of animals out there, so.
- 43:46Speaker 2: It was gone. One reason why, Jessica, you always hear
- 43:50Speaker 2: that old come at, I come in. Never found Bigfoot's body. Okay,
- 43:55Speaker 2: they never found the body of a big Foot. Well,
- 43:57Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you something, and I can tell
- 43:59Speaker 2: you this from my own personal law enforcement experience. When
- 44:03Speaker 2: somebody or body lies out, especially in humid weather in
- 44:08Speaker 2: the woods, two or three weeks, cops, okay, before that
- 44:14Speaker 2: extreme deterioration begins, and other animal factors involved. They can
- 44:20Speaker 2: scatter the bones, they can move things around, and all that.
- 44:23Speaker 2: I find this guy's report a little bit incredible to
- 44:26Speaker 2: believe because so many years later that you would find
- 44:30Speaker 2: that skeleton there in that condition, knowing how things go
- 44:35Speaker 2: very quickly in the woods, okay, especially in the in
- 44:38Speaker 2: the mountains like that. You've got a lot of humidity,
- 44:41Speaker 2: you got a lot of moisture, you got a lot
- 44:43Speaker 2: of animal activity. Okay, That's the very thing I said
- 44:47Speaker 2: about that. What might have happened with a million ear hearts.
- 44:52Speaker 2: You might have made it to that small island and died,
- 44:55Speaker 2: and the crabs probably took care of her body. Okay,
- 44:58Speaker 2: and that's why there's no there anything left to b c.
- 45:01Speaker 2: Think about that next time you eat crab meat. But anyway, uh,
- 45:06Speaker 2: these things happen. This is nature taking care of things.
- 45:09Speaker 2: That's just the way it works. And you know a
- 45:11Speaker 2: body is not gonna stay long. The bones are the
- 45:14Speaker 2: using only thing that remains, and then they don't last
- 45:17Speaker 2: that long. Okay, that's why I don't think you find
- 45:20Speaker 2: big food remains. I think they also bury their dead.
- 45:23Speaker 2: But anyway, I think a lot of that is a
- 45:27Speaker 2: factor that you got to involve it. And here's another
- 45:30Speaker 2: thing about it being three years later and so many
- 45:33Speaker 2: violes down that I believe they would have found the
- 45:35Speaker 2: body before then as many people as out looking for
- 45:40Speaker 2: definitely a search that went on. And here's another thing
- 45:43Speaker 2: about the Gensen Okay, there's two dangerous things in the
- 45:47Speaker 2: mountains that you gotta watch out forward. That's the pot
- 45:50Speaker 2: growers and the Gensen hunters. Okay, they're very, very territorial.
- 45:55Speaker 2: That's all I say about that.
- 45:58Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Cat says they have a
- 46:02Speaker 1: TV show on the Genzen Collectors. Wild things happen out there.
- 46:05Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I can only imagine it's almost that
- 46:08Speaker 1: would almost be like Moonshiners. That's Moonshiner's shift, okay, But
- 46:12Speaker 1: for gen z Hunters, I mean, I can't. Genzy is
- 46:15Speaker 1: so good for you. I can't. I don't understand why
- 46:17Speaker 1: it's illegal to go pick it. But Moonshine, yeah, the
- 46:22Speaker 1: new Moonshine or the ancient Moonshine, I don't know. Gensetein
- 46:26Speaker 1: has been around since.
- 46:26Speaker 2: The beginning of time.
- 46:28Speaker 1: Okay, Well, well, let's go ahead and get into the
- 46:30Speaker 1: data because there's a lot of data to discuss tonight.
- 46:32Speaker 1: And some of it is I hate to say it,
- 46:38Speaker 1: but it's uh, this is a child, okay, And this
- 46:42Speaker 1: is a blind remote viewing target. You know, I don't
- 46:46Speaker 1: know what these targets are. When I'm given the numbers,
- 46:48Speaker 1: I'm given a set of coordinates. That's all I have.
- 46:50Speaker 1: Some of this is pretty graphic, okay, And so I'm
- 46:53Speaker 1: not going to talk about the graphic parts out of
- 46:56Speaker 1: respect for the family and this being a child, and
- 47:00Speaker 1: and I, like I said, I wasn't planning on talking
- 47:03Speaker 1: about this publicly. I wasn't, but I do believe that
- 47:06Speaker 1: it's important that we do talk about it, and we
- 47:09Speaker 1: explore the data and it is just remote viewing data. Okay,
- 47:13Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is the end all be all,
- 47:17Speaker 1: but it's a blind target and there's some interesting data
- 47:20Speaker 1: here that might give us some answers to what happened
- 47:22Speaker 1: to Dennis Martin. Okay, now the target was the what
- 47:30Speaker 1: happened to the disappearance of Dennis Martin? So what's written
- 47:34Speaker 1: down here? The disappearance of Dennis Martins was written down
- 47:37Speaker 1: on six fourteen sixty nine at the Smoky in the
- 47:39Speaker 1: Smoky Mountains. That was the target apparent. Okay, So all right,
- 47:47Speaker 1: well I've I'm just going to go over some of
- 47:49Speaker 1: the analytic overlay because I think it's very interesting. Here.
- 47:54Speaker 1: I wrote down person and human, so I was picking
- 47:56Speaker 1: up on a human, a white human, Caucasian. I wrote
- 47:59Speaker 1: down Caucasian, I wrote wide. Actually, I wrote down sneak attack, sneakers, emergency.
- 48:08Speaker 1: Some of the data. I actually wrote down ambulance, star,
- 48:12Speaker 1: wrote down ambulance and emergency. I wrote down hidden, and
- 48:16Speaker 1: I was actually I kind of did what we call peacocking,
- 48:21Speaker 1: where I wrote done hidden, and I was hearing all
- 48:23Speaker 1: these different phrases. What that had to do a hidden
- 48:25Speaker 1: like hidden information, hidden facts? So hidden information, hidden facts,
- 48:33Speaker 1: something that was deplorable, and then I got ritual and
- 48:38Speaker 1: ritual sacrifice. Two of the things I wrote down. I
- 48:43Speaker 1: wrote down Mark was a name that I wrote down.
- 48:47Speaker 1: I wrote down Marxist, marxistem Mark. Okay, because that's another
- 48:51Speaker 1: peacocking kind of thing I did. I was getting data
- 48:55Speaker 1: that involved exit and I saw I write down exit plan,
- 48:59Speaker 1: and I wrote down I had written down red and
- 49:02Speaker 1: my sensory data. Red was one of my words. And
- 49:05Speaker 1: I did see and hear that it said that he
- 49:07Speaker 1: was wearing a red shirt. But I wrote down in
- 49:10Speaker 1: my analytic overlay, red is dead. That's where I wrote
- 49:13Speaker 1: down red is dead. Okay. I wrote what looks like
- 49:19Speaker 1: kind of like a map for my stage three drawing.
- 49:23Speaker 1: I was seeing a sign. I did see a sign
- 49:25Speaker 1: during this target that said don't feed the bears. And
- 49:30Speaker 1: I wrote down Smoky the bear. Okay, which is interesting
- 49:33Speaker 1: because this is the Smoky Mountains. Okay, I wrote down
- 49:36Speaker 1: Smoky the bear. But I wrote down a sign a
- 49:38Speaker 1: plate metal wood. I was definitely outdoors during this target.
- 49:43Speaker 1: I heard only you can prevent forest fires, you know
- 49:45Speaker 1: that kind of stuff I was seeing that I was
- 49:49Speaker 1: I was surrounded by fog, rain and moisture. I was
- 49:55Speaker 1: very sad. I was getting a really sad feeling. I
- 49:57Speaker 1: started feeling nauseated and sick. I wrote down mistake and
- 50:03Speaker 1: wrong move, like there was a wrong move, somebody made
- 50:07Speaker 1: a mistake, slick and slippery. I think I was That's
- 50:15Speaker 1: weird because I wrote down a deluge and I think
- 50:17Speaker 1: I said a delusion earlier when I was describing something,
- 50:20Speaker 1: So that's weird. That's I never hear that word deluge
- 50:22Speaker 1: if I wrote my data here, and I think I
- 50:24Speaker 1: saw it in this I remember seeing that while ago. Okay,
- 50:27Speaker 1: the deluge, but I wrote missed and I wrote missing.
- 50:32Speaker 1: Then I started picking up on somebody that was missing
- 50:34Speaker 1: because I wrote down missing person. And I was so
- 50:37Speaker 1: when I get like in my column, because I write
- 50:39Speaker 1: down all my data and columns, and this one particular
- 50:42Speaker 1: column is my emotional impact. And that's the way I'm
- 50:45Speaker 1: feeling okay during this target. And not only was I
- 50:50Speaker 1: feeling sick and nauseated. In the beginning of this target,
- 50:53Speaker 1: I started crying. I was actually crying. I was upset.
- 50:56Speaker 1: I was confused because my sensory data was actually I
- 50:59Speaker 1: was in pain and I was hurting. I was feeling.
- 51:03Speaker 1: I wrote down hurting, painful, and I don't know. I'm
- 51:10Speaker 1: not going to get into this because it got kind
- 51:11Speaker 1: of graphic, but I do believe that someone was according
- 51:17Speaker 1: to my data, someone was I'm just going to say kidnapped, taken. Okay,
- 51:22Speaker 1: they were taken, and it was not it was not good. Okay,
- 51:28Speaker 1: let's just say that I did a deep mind probe
- 51:31Speaker 1: of whoever I was experiencing there, Okay, deep MyD probe.
- 51:35Speaker 1: I said, what happened to you? What is happening? Is
- 51:38Speaker 1: when I asked, and this and I'm going to read
- 51:42Speaker 1: some of the words that I wrote down, because there's
- 51:43Speaker 1: a whole bunch of words that I wrote down and
- 51:44Speaker 1: they don't all make sense. I actually had before this,
- 51:49Speaker 1: I had written down stolen and ransom. Okay, stolen, ransom, ransacked, disheveled,
- 51:55Speaker 1: those are some of the words I wrote down. But
- 51:57Speaker 1: I said, what happened? What's happening into you? I wrote down, grabbed, taken,
- 52:04Speaker 1: underneath walls, city, merged, plastered, and sold is what I
- 52:12Speaker 1: wrote down. And then my and I wrote down because
- 52:14Speaker 1: this is an emotional impact, like my ear started ringing
- 52:17Speaker 1: really bad. Is I was like I was making contact
- 52:20Speaker 1: with whoever this was in this deep mind probe, I was.
- 52:22Speaker 1: My ear started ringing on my left side, and then
- 52:28Speaker 1: I started getting this overwhelming like chorus of voices in
- 52:34Speaker 1: my head. Like I was like, it was this telepathic
- 52:36Speaker 1: communication of just a ton of people trying to tell
- 52:39Speaker 1: me stuff all at once and I could not. It
- 52:42Speaker 1: was frantic, and I wrote down frantic. It was just
- 52:44Speaker 1: a whole lot of people trying to It's like they
- 52:47Speaker 1: were trying to communicate with me when I was in
- 52:49Speaker 1: this in this and they were talking so fast, I
- 52:52Speaker 1: could not understand what they were saying. So but it
- 52:56Speaker 1: was very dark and uh, and I actually ended up
- 52:58Speaker 1: writing wrote hearing voices talking frantically, telepathic, frantic, fast, dark.
- 53:05Speaker 1: I wrote down dark Web, Okay, I wrote down like
- 53:08Speaker 1: dark web, dark corners, Underground. I was definitely feeling like
- 53:11Speaker 1: I had gone underground, and I wrote down programs and
- 53:16Speaker 1: programmed and deep. It was something deep, underground and dark dingy.
- 53:22Speaker 1: I was smelling like a mildew smell and stuff. And
- 53:25Speaker 1: it was definitely in a land mass like so potentially
- 53:28Speaker 1: underground like in a maybe it was even in a
- 53:30Speaker 1: cave or a mountain or something. But I wrote down
- 53:33Speaker 1: the word buried. That's what I wrote down. But I
- 53:36Speaker 1: was definitely inside either I was in like a it's
- 53:39Speaker 1: like a natural structure, okay. And I do believe it
- 53:43Speaker 1: was either it was underground or it was inside like
- 53:45Speaker 1: a cave or something, because it was definitely damp and
- 53:49Speaker 1: smelt musty like mud. I actually wrote down rocks, mud,
- 53:53Speaker 1: and leaves were inside of it. So wherever I was,
- 53:57Speaker 1: but I did write down, the last thing I wrote
- 53:59Speaker 1: down was buried, okay. And so that was for That
- 54:05Speaker 1: was a majority of the data without getting graphic with
- 54:07Speaker 1: some of the other parts of it. I personally do
- 54:11Speaker 1: not believe that this child survived this.
- 54:13Speaker 2: I think that.
- 54:16Speaker 1: I'm so sweaty right now, like so sweaty because this
- 54:20Speaker 1: is this is you know, I was channeling a lot.
- 54:24Speaker 1: I was channeling a lot of information, and I was
- 54:26Speaker 1: having people that were trying There were voices that were
- 54:29Speaker 1: trying to communicate with me, telling me what was going on.
- 54:32Speaker 1: And it was so frantic and so stressful for me
- 54:35Speaker 1: in this in this target, and it was so much
- 54:38Speaker 1: that I couldn't understand it. Okay.
- 54:41Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I think in your situation, you run
- 54:45Speaker 2: into interference, intentional interference in all things. That doesn't sound
- 54:51Speaker 2: like it's too much like an interference in that way.
- 54:54Speaker 2: It's almost like somebody trying to get your attention. I'm
- 54:58Speaker 2: trying to tell you something more than one person doing
- 55:02Speaker 2: anything one time. That's interesting, very interesting. I want to
- 55:07Speaker 2: say this. And I've been down the woods a lot,
- 55:09Speaker 2: and I have actually come upon places where I think
- 55:13Speaker 2: certain things have been done. There are dark areas and
- 55:18Speaker 2: they're way out in the woods. They're way like you know,
- 55:21Speaker 2: we talked about the Faraoh people. They're way out yonder somewhere.
- 55:25Speaker 2: They're not close by human traffic or whatever. They're there
- 55:29Speaker 2: for a reason. They do that for a reason to
- 55:32Speaker 2: get out there, Okay. And it could be a possibility
- 55:35Speaker 2: that what you're picking up on here is that this
- 55:38Speaker 2: boy was taken for a purpose to a place probably
- 55:43Speaker 2: sounds like to me, very like some underground gay complex
- 55:47Speaker 2: type thing or something, and maybe ritually sacrificed. That's what
- 55:54Speaker 2: it sounds like. And I think the voices that you
- 55:57Speaker 2: were hearing were the other victims that have been done
- 56:00Speaker 2: that way as well, trying to get to you and
- 56:03Speaker 2: tell you what was going on. I mean, that's just
- 56:06Speaker 2: what I feel that you were picking up on. And
- 56:10Speaker 2: I do know that these areas like that where these
- 56:14Speaker 2: things happen, are very well hidden. They don't want any interference,
- 56:19Speaker 2: They don't want anybody to know that they're I've actually
- 56:22Speaker 2: walked home on sacrificial sites, very dangerous, very dangerous people.
- 56:27Speaker 2: If you ever run up on something like that and
- 56:30Speaker 2: you're out in the woods, get away from them immediately,
- 56:33Speaker 2: because you are in some very dangerous territory. I feel
- 56:37Speaker 2: like that what you were picking up on was an
- 56:40Speaker 2: abduction for visualistic purposes, and I believe other people had
- 56:45Speaker 2: been done that way as well. And of course there
- 56:47Speaker 2: may have been some cannibalism afterwards. That happens too. A
- 56:53Speaker 2: lot of these so called sex or whatever name you
- 56:56Speaker 2: want to give them. The cults do a lot of
- 57:00Speaker 2: these things. It's part of their practice that they do.
- 57:03Speaker 2: Once they sacrifice, then they indulge in eating that victim. Okay,
- 57:09Speaker 2: that's just the way they work. I know, it's something
- 57:11Speaker 2: that you don't want to talk about, is not really nice,
- 57:15Speaker 2: but that's it happens. It is a real thing, you know,
- 57:18Speaker 2: And I think that's what you were picking up on.
- 57:21Speaker 1: Okay, Well, in the beginning of the target, I wrote
- 57:23Speaker 1: down ritual and ritual sacrifice, and the part that I
- 57:26Speaker 1: left out, I'm not going to get into detail, but
- 57:29Speaker 1: it did involve a weapon and it's something that would
- 57:31Speaker 1: be used in a ritual sacrifice. I do believe, and
- 57:35Speaker 1: uh and I think that that's a part to the data.
- 57:39Speaker 1: I think that's what happened. And I think you're one
- 57:41Speaker 1: hundred percent right, Dennis. That's why I wanted you to
- 57:43Speaker 1: be here tonight to make sense of this, because it
- 57:48Speaker 1: just doesn't make a lot of sense. But you know,
- 57:50Speaker 1: I hear, I've heard, and I come across it in
- 57:53Speaker 1: a lot of these targets. It's even involving national parks
- 57:57Speaker 1: where there are rituals going on and the people. I'm
- 58:01Speaker 1: just going to see the people in charge, and I
- 58:03Speaker 1: see in charge like I don't see. It's not all
- 58:05Speaker 1: park rangers. I love the park rangers and the game wardens.
- 58:08Speaker 1: Love you guys out there. Okay, I know some of
- 58:10Speaker 1: y'all watch my shows. But there are let's just say,
- 58:14Speaker 1: like local I want to say, cults and stuff that
- 58:18Speaker 1: may involve some of the city workers and county officials
- 58:22Speaker 1: and stuff. They may be in some of these cults,
- 58:24Speaker 1: and you just don't know it, you know, doing some
- 58:26Speaker 1: of this stuff, and you know, please forgive me. I'm
- 58:28Speaker 1: not trying to upset anybody. But we don't know how
- 58:31Speaker 1: deep this goes.
- 58:33Speaker 2: That's what makes this so very dangerous, yessica. It could
- 58:35Speaker 2: be anybody. It could be your next door neighbor, it
- 58:37Speaker 2: could be a park ranger, it could be a deputy,
- 58:41Speaker 2: it could be anybody like that. You don't know. You
- 58:44Speaker 2: don't know what you're dealing with. And these people will
- 58:46Speaker 2: do anything to keep their secrets secret and to keep
- 58:51Speaker 2: their stuff covered up. They don't want it out, and
- 58:55Speaker 2: that includes unliving you is necessary in the worst possible way.
- 59:01Speaker 2: I have seen cases of this in law enforcement has
- 59:04Speaker 2: investigated a lot of this stuff. This is real stuff, folks,
- 59:07Speaker 2: This really goes on. This is nothing in a novel.
- 59:10Speaker 2: It's not a comic book thing. This is the real
- 59:12Speaker 2: stuff and it really happens. And I think that's definitely
- 59:16Speaker 2: what you were picking up on. Absolutely well.
- 59:18Speaker 1: That's why you know, it involves a child, and that's
- 59:21Speaker 1: why I didn't really want to cover this for a
- 59:24Speaker 1: long time. I never really had an intention of covering this,
- 59:29Speaker 1: but it ties into so much stuff that we've been
- 59:31Speaker 1: talking about Dennis and larry I want to thank you
- 59:35Speaker 1: for that super secret. That's very sweet. You'll have a
- 59:37Speaker 1: blessed night in prayers back to work. You'll be safe
- 59:39Speaker 1: out there, Okay, be safe out there. And I did
- 59:43Speaker 1: see well. I just had a comment for my friend
- 59:45Speaker 1: Darryl who was in here, who was in the chat too,
- 59:48Speaker 1: and I can't find it. I just lost it. But
- 59:50Speaker 1: he was saying that those voices I was hearing could
- 59:53Speaker 1: have been some of the other victims that had potentially
- 59:57Speaker 1: lost their lives to who knows. It was just there
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: was a lot of talking and I could not make
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: sense of it. And it was very loud and frantic,
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: and I wrote down frantic twice and it was it
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: was pretty stressful, Yeah, pretty stressful and sweetpeat were the
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: parents involved? Thank you for that supersticker. I did not
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: pick up on the parents being involved with this. I
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: think I through the data, I think that it was
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: someone was stalking this child kind of and he was
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: taken according to the data. I don't think the parents
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: were involved.
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: I don't really the trail that they were on jets
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: because it was a public trail. I mean, it's a
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: very well known trail like I said, I walked it
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: a part of it. I didn't go the whole trail
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: that they went on, but I walked part of it,
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: and there would be a lot of activity along the trail,
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: and I could see how someone could easily stalk someone
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: down that trail. All you got to do is today
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: off the trail and hidden and follow people. That's a
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: great possibility there. So it's not it's not that far fished.
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: Yeah it's not. I mean, the the the Smoky Mountains
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: are dense. Okay, they're dent too, and very dense, a
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: lot of places for people to hide, Okay, a lot
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: of people places for people to hide. So in a nutshell,
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: I do think that he was taken by a stranger personally.
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: That's what I think after looking at the data, and yeah,
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: he and I think that they may might. I mean
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: I wrote down ransom and stuff like that, and that
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: was interesting for being in a blind target, you know,
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: so maybe he someone took him considering, you know, getting
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: trying to get a ransom or something. But I don't
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: think that that's that's ultimately I think.
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: This with a broad rush, but I think I'm not
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: going to say all of them, but I think a
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: lot of disappearances, especially if children go this route. You know,
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: I believe that this is part of the explanations for
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: some of it, and I'm not saying all of it,
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: but for some of it. It's a definite thing. Man.
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: And of course we know there's a lot of trafficking
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: going on nowadays. Back in sixty nine that was still viable.
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: It wasn't as well known then as it is now,
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: you know, but it was I think still going on.
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: But let's look at the big picture. Slavery, trafficking, whatever
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: name you want to give, it has been going on
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: since time. In my moral Okay, we just know more
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: about it now because we're in the age of communication.
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: That's what we live in, the age of communication, more
- 1:02:46Speaker 2: so than it was in nineteen sixty nine. Okay, but
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: I think it was so long. But there are reasons
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: behind this trafficking. Okay, there are different reasons, and one
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: of them definitely would well you've described denied along with
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: sex trafficking, slavery and whatever the situation. Children of the prey,
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: the main prey of these things. Why, because they're easier
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: to do something with. If I were to try to
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: kip kidnap you deny, Jessica, you would put up a fight, okay, yeah,
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: and that would make it hard for me to do
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: what I was trying to do. But if you're a child,
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: you're not going to put up quite as much of
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: a fight. And that's what they want.
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: See much my kid and muss, you're my kid. He's
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: always got a weapon somewhere on him. I'm just saying,
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: so watch out, don't try to take my kid. I
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: feel sorry for you if you do. Okay, anybody, but
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: but yeah, children are very vulnerable, as are smaller statued
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: women as well. And you hear about that a lot
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: too when it comes to women getting just like.
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: These people are just like wild animals. Okay, you know,
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: a bash talks you, or we'll stalk you, or tiger
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: will stalk you, and he will actually decide to take
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: you down if you look like you're a good victim.
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: Uh and you're and you're not gonna you're gonna be
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: easy prey. That's what we used to call it in
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: law enforcement. Don't become easy prey. That's what they want,
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: the easy prey. You know, So you know, when you walk,
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: walk with confidence, hold your head up high, look people
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: in the eye. Don't cower down. Be be a warrior,
- 1:04:31Speaker 2: don't be a victim. That's what I always say. They
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: don't want to mess with a warrior, Okay, they want
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: a victim, that's what they want they do.
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: And I used to actually teach women. I used to
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: travel the state of Georgia teaching self defense to women. Okay. So,
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: and I was with a bunch of badass dudes that
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: you know, could teach you some really good moves okay,
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: and some psychological stuff too. To keep yourself out of
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: harm's way. And if you get in harms way, you
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: don't do. It's not self to it's actually offense, is
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: what we were teaching. Fight. Okay, I teach everybody to fight.
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: I don't say like to just to protect yourself. You
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: know how to fight too. But uh but yeah, when
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: when I first met some of those guys, they were like, well,
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: I could just tell by the way you walked in
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: the room that you were one of the you were
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: one of the women that I wouldn't target. Okay, because listen,
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: here's the thing. We gotta think. We got to think
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: with a criminal mind sometimes. Okay, if you want to,
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: if you want to stay out of trouble or stay
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: at a harm's way, or know what to look for.
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: You had to think like a criminal would do, or
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: think right, Uh, don't be a victim, okay, like, don't
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: walk like a victim, like I walk in confidence.
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: Of course.
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: I'm I'm always armed personally, okay, but I know how
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: to use that weapon. I'm not just armed with no
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: training okay, and things like that done kickboxing. My most
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: of my life played rugby in my college and all
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. I mean, I've always been very athletic,
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: but I'm not the kind of person. I mean, I
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: might look sweet and stuff, but you know, it's a
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: good it's a good ploy, I guess.
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we used to say about people like you, Jessica.
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: You might lose, but they'll you'll they'll know they had
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: a fight. Okay.
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know that's right. That's right. You know
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: I'm going to go down fighting no matter what. You can.
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: I guarantee you that. And uh, and that's that's what
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: counts for my my world. Okay. But but anyways, yeah,
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: we we have to be aware of our surroundings and
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: have some training of some sort, you know, some just
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: don't have our kids too. We need to teach our
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: kids this.
- 1:06:33Speaker 2: I was telling somebody the other day. You know, we've
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: done a lot of shows on reptilians and vampires and
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: all these other things they're supposedly walking around out there,
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: But there are, and I've said this before, there are
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: things out there walking around that are not human. Okay,
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: they look human, but they're not human. But here's the
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: other side of the coin. There are some humans walking
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: around out there that are no longer humans really, okay,
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: And those the ones you need to really, really really
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: watch out for, okay, because those are the most dangerous
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: individuals walking this planet.
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: Well, someone in the chad had asked about sheep shifters,
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: like what, okay, what if whoever took him could have
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: been like a sheep shifter and looked like somebody he knew,
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: And that kind of ties into the robot Grandma story
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: that we had.
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: Well, here's here's an interesting spin on that, okay, And
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: this is this is my own personal view on this case.
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: To a certain extent, it was very strange that you
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: had a storm at that time, and it was very
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: strange how this little child disappeared so quickly. I think
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: that and you might have picked up on some of
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: this too, that there was more of a supernatural slant
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: involved in this, okay, because these people have certain abilities
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: that they can do, and one of them is being
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: ship shifting. They could look like a tree, they can
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: look like a rock, they can look like a dog,
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: or whatever it needs they need to look like. Okay,
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: and this little boy went behind a bush and just disappeared. Okay,
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: that's very strange in my book. Okay. Now number two
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: of the storms, this is a big weapon for a lot.
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: This is an age old weapon of dark witchcraft. Calling
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: up rainstorms and windstorms is part of their job. They
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: can do it, and they do do it, and that
- 1:08:29Speaker 2: just makes me very suspicious of this case. You have
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: those kind of factors in it. That's another aspect of it.
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: And then I think you might have picked up on
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: a little bit of that as well.
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: I did, so, So what you're saying is that when
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: these rains and things like that come in, they could
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: be conjured conjured storms and kind of magical dark magic
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: kind of stuff.
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a.
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: Whole new level right there too. And it's stuff that
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: a lot of people don't think about, but it happens
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: so often when these things happen, it's like, well, we
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: know there's weather manipulation instruments out there.
- 1:09:09Speaker 2: Yeah, that's been described since medievil times. Dark wishes have
- 1:09:13Speaker 2: been on to manipulate the weather. Oh yeah, they have
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: been able to call up windstorms, rainstorms, thunderstorms, snowstorms, fogs,
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: strange mists have been reported a lot of times around
- 1:09:28Speaker 2: certain situations like this. It's very viable.
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes, yes, okay, really that's pretty mind blowing information
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: right there too, because we don't talk about that often enough.
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: We're all trying to wrap our head around, you know,
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: people going missing and like all the anomalies that happen
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: when these people go missing in these clusters in our
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: national parks. But then we we'd look into these rituals
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: and the conjurings and the sacrifices that are going on,
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: and what if they are conjuring up these storms. Okay,
- 1:10:02Speaker 1: so it's just something else to think about.
- 1:10:04Speaker 2: Now.
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: I do want to talk about the FBI releasing more
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: information in twenty twenty two. This is also very important.
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: I have read old manuscripts where they talk about in
- 1:10:13Speaker 2: which dark witchcraft calling up storms or fogs to cover
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: their evil deeds so that people cannot follow them and
- 1:10:23Speaker 2: all that. This is a well known fag and supernatural lore.
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: Okay, So that's interesting because I talk about that fog
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: that followed my friend Tim and I down the mountain
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: one night. We had some people with us, and the
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: dog seemed to have a consciousness to it, and it
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: was very scary and very ominous. We were both very
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: alarmed by that fog.
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: So that could have also been I want to tell
- 1:10:49Speaker 2: you a quick thing, and I'll talk about this some
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: night further deeper into this, but I spent the night
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: on the Isle of the Dead, which is a graveyard
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: out in the lake not too far from where I'm
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: at right now. I spent the night out there and
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: I experienced one of the most bizarre fogs that I
- 1:11:09Speaker 2: have ever seen. And what was in that fog is
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: the story for another time.
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: Oh Okay, the fog is very scary.
- 1:11:19Speaker 2: It can be.
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: Don says from what I heard, the feral hunting teams
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: go out of the park into Nanta Halla and come
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: into the smokies. In that case, finding their cave would
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: be hard. And yeah, I mean I've heard that there
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: was a feral hunting team that went in as well.
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: I did hear that. I mean I hear there's also
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: bigfoot hunting teams and dog man hunting teams and all
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So I think there's a whole
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: lot of stuff that's going on that we are not
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: supposed to be privy to here. Oh, by the way,
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: this is for educational and entertainment purposes only, by the way,
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: I haven't mentioned that tonight.
- 1:11:55Speaker 2: It's the Sony Bean case. Okay. There public menace, so
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: you have to take care of them, and you do
- 1:12:03Speaker 2: it very quietly, okay, because you don't want the public
- 1:12:06Speaker 2: to know about this, because it was paying for a
- 1:12:09Speaker 2: lot of people that this feral factor is sent place
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: out there, so they would keep it very quiet.
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: What I'm saying, definitely, yes, Okay. Let's talk about what
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: the FBI file said. They released in twenty twenty or
- 1:12:27Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Okay, so in twenty twenty two there,
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: I think it was from a Freedom of Information Act
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: request I'm assuming, so the some of the key points
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: of what this report said. There's a lot of information
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: that came out of this, but it started off by
- 1:12:48Speaker 1: talking about how the dad had offered a reward for
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: five thousand dollars, which is around forty thousand a day,
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: that the dad had hired Gene Dixon to help, who
- 1:12:57Speaker 1: is a known psychic, and and that she The FBI
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: article actually mentioned that her information led them to a
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: place in the park that where they found She said
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: that she was seeing a shiny object in a shelter
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: like a house or something that was in one of
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: those fields where they had been around where they had been,
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: and it was a shiny object in the left side
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: of the house, underneath something underneath the bed. But they
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: went underneath the bed and they did find an article
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: of clothing which it was underneath a rock underneath this
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: bunk bed that they do believe could have belonged to Dennis.
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: They do believe it could have belonged to him, so
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: she was kind of right there. But the report said
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: that there was a belief that feral humans had taken
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: him and cannibalized him. Because of heavy rains, he was
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: swept into the water and washed away. That was another
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: one of their hypotheses, okay, that he had been swept
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: into the water and washed away and drowned. Another possibility
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: in the report was that the elements unlived him or
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: he could have been attacked and unaliveed by a bear.
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: They did not in their support. The father assumed that
- 1:14:09Speaker 1: he was kidnapped by a human and taken out of
- 1:14:11Speaker 1: that area, and there was some information that backed that up.
- 1:14:16Speaker 1: In this report. The FBI did an investigation into a
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: couple of different suspicious people who could have kidnapped him.
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: But it's thought that maybe the FBI could have worked
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: a little harder on this, like they didn't put enough
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: effort into this, because the FBI report said at first
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: that there was no foul play involved or suspected and
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: that he probably did die from natural causes. But there
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: were two people that were questioned by authorities. There was
- 1:14:46Speaker 1: a Kentucky man who was questioned after an anonymous letter
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: was sent to law enforcement. The officers were getting frustrated
- 1:14:56Speaker 1: with the dad because the dad was not able to
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: wrap his around his child being dead, and he kept
- 1:15:03Speaker 1: holding out hope that he was alive, and he kept
- 1:15:06Speaker 1: pushing them to investigate more and that, and it was
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: very obvious in this report that the FBI was getting
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: irritated with him, which is kind of messed up because
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: if I were I am a parent, if that were
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: my child, I would I would be on them every day. Okay,
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: well that kind of instant.
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: That would be the last thing you'd want to consider,
- 1:15:29Speaker 2: you know, definitely, And I could see you know, the
- 1:15:31Speaker 2: psychological factor of that, you know, definitely. But a lot
- 1:15:35Speaker 2: of the file was was the letters of the family
- 1:15:38Speaker 2: wrote to like congressman, senators trying to get more help.
- 1:15:42Speaker 2: I think even one letter was written to President Nixon
- 1:15:46Speaker 2: at that time, and so a lot of that was
- 1:15:49Speaker 2: that too, And the bad thing was kind of ruled
- 1:15:52Speaker 2: like they didn't rule it out. But here was the
- 1:15:55Speaker 2: interesting thing. If a bear attacked you, uh, there's gonna
- 1:15:59Speaker 2: be a big blood thing there. I mean if it
- 1:16:03Speaker 2: even if it takes you off. And a bear here's
- 1:16:06Speaker 2: what bears do. And I've run into a lot of
- 1:16:08Speaker 2: bearers of my time, okay, And you got to understand
- 1:16:10Speaker 2: they you think, you know when you see them on
- 1:16:13Speaker 2: TV and then cartoons, they're very slow and they move around. No, no, no, no,
- 1:16:18Speaker 2: they can be very incredibly fast. Okay, they can be
- 1:16:21Speaker 2: on you in a second, have a heartbeat. But when
- 1:16:24Speaker 2: a bear takes down his prey, it usually will not
- 1:16:28Speaker 2: stay right there and eat it. Okay, it will take
- 1:16:31Speaker 2: it off somewhere else, take it up in a tree
- 1:16:34Speaker 2: or in a wherever it goes. But there will be
- 1:16:38Speaker 2: stains there. There will be blood there where it took
- 1:16:41Speaker 2: down that prey. And here's the bad thing about it.
- 1:16:44Speaker 2: Since that rain, that was three inches of rain hit
- 1:16:47Speaker 2: that obliterated anything like that, so they they couldn't rule
- 1:16:51Speaker 2: it out, and they couldn't say one way or the
- 1:16:53Speaker 2: other on it. You had so many, so many obstructive
- 1:16:58Speaker 2: type things happening in this game. It's like I said,
- 1:17:00Speaker 2: it was almost like it was planned. It was very strange.
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think that there was. According to the data,
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: it does appear that there was. They were. They kind
- 1:17:14Speaker 1: of zeroed him. They put a target on him, I guess.
- 1:17:17Speaker 1: And so even in the data, maybe it's because his
- 1:17:22Speaker 1: shirt was red. I know that sounds horrible, but that's
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: kind of what the data was pointing to, is that
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: they just kind of picked him.
- 1:17:28Speaker 2: Maybe he was the.
- 1:17:29Speaker 1: Youngest or something. But Greg Greg's in the chat, Hey,
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: Greg greg Ogles was asking he said that he thought
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: that the family had suspected a bigfoot or a feral person.
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: I think they did now as a big foot field researcher.
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: I'd always heard that it was a lot of people
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: have suspected it was a big foot, But when you
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: go into all of the like the FBI reports, there's
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: no mention of that at all, only feral humans in
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: the FBI reports.
- 1:17:58Speaker 2: The bigfoot is an interesting point ability. And you know,
- 1:18:01Speaker 2: I did a show last night talking about bigfoot have
- 1:18:04Speaker 2: been known to actually sexually attack women and take them off.
- 1:18:10Speaker 2: That is a supposedly well known factor be and men
- 1:18:13Speaker 2: too as well, not just women but men as well. Also,
- 1:18:17Speaker 2: abducting children is one of the things bigfood supposedly do.
- 1:18:21Speaker 2: We'll do and then raising them is all their own offspring.
- 1:18:26Speaker 2: So that is an interesting factor in this, you know,
- 1:18:31Speaker 2: but it is. And you also I was talking about
- 1:18:33Speaker 2: on my show last night, women need to understand, especially
- 1:18:36Speaker 2: if they go out bigfoot honey, they could be a
- 1:18:38Speaker 2: prime target for bigfoot, okay, because they're female, and especially
- 1:18:44Speaker 2: if they go at certain times of the month, they
- 1:18:46Speaker 2: can open theirselves up to some bad situations with that.
- 1:18:50Speaker 2: So if I were a female, I would definitely never
- 1:18:53Speaker 2: get along out in the woods. I know the American
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: Indians used to not let their one and go out
- 1:19:00Speaker 2: along and that was just because of other tribes. It's
- 1:19:03Speaker 2: both supposed to because a big foot kidnapping women, if
- 1:19:08Speaker 2: it will take women, the certainly would take a child too.
- 1:19:12Speaker 2: I would think, you know, that's an interesting.
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: Lost for sure. I mean, we've talked about bigfoots taking
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: adult miles too with Albert Osman up in British Columbia
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: back in the nineteen twenties. That's a cool case, an
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: interesting case, a little terrifying. At the same time, Greg
- 1:19:28Speaker 1: says there was a shoe found that matched Dennis's shoe
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: and one small footprint near a creek. Yes, I think
- 1:19:33Speaker 1: we're about to get into that with FBI report as well,
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: And I don't think the father could ever confirm that
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: that was definitely Dennis's shoe, but it did look like
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: his shoe and the other footprints they I know, this
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: is this is all and what I'm about to talk
- 1:19:49Speaker 1: about in just a few minutes here, but they could
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: not tell if it was if Dennis had lost his shoe,
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: or if it was the footprints of the other kids
- 1:19:57Speaker 1: that were with him. So it's a it's a tangled.
- 1:20:00Speaker 2: But the one footprint that was there that had the
- 1:20:04Speaker 2: shoe was the same kind of shoes supposedly he had
- 1:20:07Speaker 2: on and one foot was bare and one foot had
- 1:20:10Speaker 2: the shoe. That was a very interesting clue to me
- 1:20:14Speaker 2: when I read that, I said, oh, that's very very
- 1:20:17Speaker 2: telltale thing. Possibly, you know, that was a good sign
- 1:20:22Speaker 2: on something that he might have been trying to get
- 1:20:24Speaker 2: away from something or trying to find something. But I
- 1:20:28Speaker 2: think it was if I'm not misaken, was it not
- 1:20:31Speaker 2: saying you're a stream or something like that.
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: It was near a little creek. Yes, Okay, So the
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: FBI was animant about not having any foul play involved.
- 1:20:43Speaker 1: He's kept saying there was no foul play suspected, but
- 1:20:47Speaker 1: witnesses said that there was. The people that were working
- 1:20:50Speaker 1: the crime scene or the you know, the area said
- 1:20:53Speaker 1: that there was at least one individual person that kept
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: showing up, kept popping up. It was kind of odd
- 1:20:57Speaker 1: and suspicious.
- 1:20:59Speaker 2: Every let me say this, Okay, law enforcement sometimes kens
- 1:21:06Speaker 2: who when he comes to the family to leave certain
- 1:21:08Speaker 2: details out that they don't tell, you know, about certain things.
- 1:21:15Speaker 2: I've seen them do this, and this is really done
- 1:21:19Speaker 2: for the family, you know, it's not trying to cover
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: up something. What I'm saying, is there this you know,
- 1:21:24Speaker 2: emotionally don't want them to know certain details right then
- 1:21:30Speaker 2: maybe later on a few years later, something that comes
- 1:21:33Speaker 2: down or whatever the situation. But a lot of law
- 1:21:35Speaker 2: enforcement does that they want to not tell the family,
- 1:21:39Speaker 2: the victims' families, a lot of things at that time.
- 1:21:43Speaker 2: So I have to wonder about that too, you know.
- 1:21:46Speaker 1: Yeah, And Lenita's in a chair, hal ay that she
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: says that wouldn't they wouldn't mention bigfoot because they're supposedly
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: not real. And that's true. This is nineteen sixty nine, Okay,
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: this is This is not twenty twenty four. This is
- 1:21:59Speaker 1: nineteen six sixty nine. Now, in the FBI report they did,
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: they did write down and having this report that a
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: man said he heard a scream and then saw another
- 1:22:08Speaker 1: man scurry into the bushes, scurry into the bushes. That
- 1:22:12Speaker 1: sounds more like bigfoot activity to me or ferial human.
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: But they said that a man scurried into the bushes. Now,
- 1:22:21Speaker 1: they kept telling the dad that they did not suspect
- 1:22:24Speaker 1: foul play, but the dad got in contact with a
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: congressman named John Duncan, who sent a letter to the
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: FBI imploring them to do more investigation into this.
- 1:22:33Speaker 2: Let me give you a direct quote. I'm wanted the
- 1:22:35Speaker 2: FBI agents what he said. I don't think it was
- 1:22:37Speaker 2: bigfoot because there is no such thing as bigfoot.
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: Of course, Okay, so that was so that's important that
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: we include that in all of this information here, because
- 1:22:52Speaker 1: it just wasn't that. It wasn't a possibility back then.
- 1:22:54Speaker 1: So there was no mention a big foot at all
- 1:22:56Speaker 1: in this report at all. But you see reported it
- 1:23:00Speaker 1: is to put information like that in here, Like it
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: had said that a large hairy man had scurried into
- 1:23:07Speaker 1: the bushes, then we'd be like, oh, that was a
- 1:23:08Speaker 1: big thoat probably, but just had a man. So but
- 1:23:14Speaker 1: the report noted there's a big note in there that
- 1:23:17Speaker 1: Dennis had learning disabilities, which kind of made the case
- 1:23:21Speaker 1: for them to say, well, he had just wandered off
- 1:23:24Speaker 1: and he was a victim of the elements out there.
- 1:23:28Speaker 1: But the dad did it contact a psychic, Dennist and
- 1:23:31Speaker 1: the psychic advised him there was a cabin with a
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: porch in the area. It's Spencefield where there's a shiny
- 1:23:36Speaker 1: object to the far left corner of the room and
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: the cabin. A park ranger supervisor and Martin went to
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: the hiker's shelter and Spencefield crawled under the bunk on
- 1:23:45Speaker 1: the left corner under a rock. They found a pair
- 1:23:48Speaker 1: of shorts. It was impossible for anybody just to drop
- 1:23:51Speaker 1: those shorts there and hide them. The lab attempted to
- 1:23:54Speaker 1: determine the brand and the laundry mark on them. I
- 1:23:58Speaker 1: don't think they were able to get DNA evid it's
- 1:24:00Speaker 1: off of them because this was before DNA evidence was
- 1:24:03Speaker 1: popular back then. They said there were stains on them
- 1:24:06Speaker 1: that were red and the details indicate that the shorts
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: could belong to Dennis, but they said there were no
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: visible marks Harris Fibers found to determine that they belonged
- 1:24:18Speaker 1: to him. The FBI knew that the shorts were his
- 1:24:21Speaker 1: size and in the area where he disappeared, but they
- 1:24:24Speaker 1: didn't look deeper into it. Doctor Dennis Carroll, Is that
- 1:24:28Speaker 1: suspicious or what that they refused to look deeper into
- 1:24:32Speaker 1: these shorts after that, It sounds like they were. It
- 1:24:37Speaker 1: almost kind of lends to the idea of that they're
- 1:24:39Speaker 1: being a cover up at this point for not really
- 1:24:42Speaker 1: looking into that.
- 1:24:44Speaker 2: Oh A lot depends you know, on your agents in
- 1:24:47Speaker 2: the field, how very thorough they are and depends on
- 1:24:50Speaker 2: their dedication. It sounds to me like some of them
- 1:24:53Speaker 2: were very dedicated for what they were doing. But you
- 1:24:58Speaker 2: have to wonder about that because even today, even in
- 1:25:01Speaker 2: our time today, the FBI and all that they screw up.
- 1:25:06Speaker 2: They don't do the things they need to do. They
- 1:25:07Speaker 2: don't follow through on some of the things they need
- 1:25:09Speaker 2: to and that is directly led to what I would
- 1:25:13Speaker 2: call absolutely incompetence in that respect, they're not very up
- 1:25:19Speaker 2: on their game. I have actually worked with people like that,
- 1:25:23Speaker 2: so I know that goes But you know, I want
- 1:25:26Speaker 2: to say this. I had a cousin who disappeared and
- 1:25:33Speaker 2: were looking for him, and he had been gone for
- 1:25:36Speaker 2: like about a week or so. We actually, I think
- 1:25:39Speaker 2: his mother contacted a psychic at that time, and the
- 1:25:43Speaker 2: psychic said that wherever he was at it was dark,
- 1:25:47Speaker 2: it was damp, and it was cold. And two weeks
- 1:25:51Speaker 2: later we found my cousin buried out in his backyard.
- 1:25:56Speaker 2: We had been murdered by his roommate and buried out there.
- 1:26:01Speaker 2: So the side goes pretty well on what was going
- 1:26:05Speaker 2: on with that, but that we were looking for him,
- 1:26:08Speaker 2: I actively looking for him, and he was there all
- 1:26:11Speaker 2: the time. We just didn't realize and the killer actually
- 1:26:15Speaker 2: buried him out in the open up under a pile
- 1:26:17Speaker 2: of trash that was there in the yard. That's the
- 1:26:22Speaker 2: way it is. Sometimes you can overlook things so very easily,
- 1:26:27Speaker 2: you know.
- 1:26:30Speaker 1: And you know, so I do a lot of I've
- 1:26:33Speaker 1: done a lot of remote viewing cases of missing people
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: and cold cases, and Dennis I have. I think it's
- 1:26:40Speaker 1: only been one, maybe one time, out of all of
- 1:26:43Speaker 1: the say dozens that I've done, if not more. And
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: I don't talk about them publicly because they're not to
- 1:26:51Speaker 1: be talked about publicly. It's just stuff that I do
- 1:26:53Speaker 1: to help out my you know, I get targets from
- 1:26:56Speaker 1: the head of my team and stuff there. They're usually deceased, okay,
- 1:27:03Speaker 1: almost in almost every single instance, there was one where
- 1:27:06Speaker 1: the person was actually alive, one out of all of them.
- 1:27:11Speaker 1: So when someone goes missing, they're usually gone, okay, or
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: they're being held against their will and they will eventually
- 1:27:20Speaker 1: be gone or something. So it's so important. Like what
- 1:27:22Speaker 1: I like to tell my audience is like, don't get
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: in a vehicle, don't let anyone take you to a
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: second location, because you chances of you making it out
- 1:27:31Speaker 1: of there are very slim. Okay, fight, hey, fight, fight,
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: fight right, fight? Uh, don't just be aware of your
- 1:27:39Speaker 1: surroundings and don't let anybody take you anywhere.
- 1:27:43Speaker 2: Well, here's the he's the bad thing about being kidnapped, Jessica.
- 1:27:47Speaker 2: Penalties for kidnapping is so very steep. The usually these
- 1:27:51Speaker 2: people see the only way out of ever serving time
- 1:27:54Speaker 2: for that is to unlive you so that you're not
- 1:27:58Speaker 2: a living witness to what they've done, so they can
- 1:28:01Speaker 2: cover up their crime and get away with kidnapping. Kidnapping
- 1:28:04Speaker 2: is almost as bad a penalty as murder, okay in
- 1:28:08Speaker 2: that respect. So when someone kidnaps you, they're usually not
- 1:28:12Speaker 2: going to let you go alive. That's just the way
- 1:28:15Speaker 2: that goes. I mean, that's just the way it is.
- 1:28:18Speaker 2: And especially if you're a child. They don't want you
- 1:28:21Speaker 2: to be able to identify them for the crime that
- 1:28:23Speaker 2: they have committed, and they will take the necessary steps
- 1:28:27Speaker 2: to prevent that.
- 1:28:30Speaker 1: Okay, I do want to This doesn't have any much,
- 1:28:32Speaker 1: a whole lot to do with this case, but I
- 1:28:35Speaker 1: did tell my audience about three weeks ago, I've walked
- 1:28:39Speaker 1: in on I walked up on people robbing my home,
- 1:28:43Speaker 1: my family's farmhouse, and it was pretty shocking, okay, to
- 1:28:51Speaker 1: be there and to I want to get into all
- 1:28:55Speaker 1: the details, really, but I just want to say I
- 1:28:59Speaker 1: confronted the people that were there. They had ransacked our
- 1:29:01Speaker 1: house and they were actually in the process of carrying
- 1:29:04Speaker 1: a mattress out of the house and they had it
- 1:29:07Speaker 1: in their hands and I had and I actually got
- 1:29:09Speaker 1: my camera phone out and I started filming them and
- 1:29:12Speaker 1: I started taking pictures and I felt like a total Karen, okay,
- 1:29:14Speaker 1: but I also was doing it for my safety. And
- 1:29:18Speaker 1: I also had a firearm on me that they could
- 1:29:20Speaker 1: visibly see. But as I sat there, I didn't know
- 1:29:25Speaker 1: if those were people that were friendly or enemies, Okay,
- 1:29:28Speaker 1: if they were dangerous or friendly, right, I didn't know.
- 1:29:31Speaker 1: But I know that I had unlocked my gate that
- 1:29:33Speaker 1: was padlocked, and I had a key to it, and
- 1:29:36Speaker 1: the gate was locked when I got there, so they
- 1:29:38Speaker 1: were obviously they broke in through a fence, a hole
- 1:29:42Speaker 1: in the fence or something, and so I had to
- 1:29:45Speaker 1: confront them and the guy. I had a back and
- 1:29:49Speaker 1: forth with them, and it was it seemed to be okay.
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: I called the sheriff's apartment, but as that man was leaving,
- 1:29:55Speaker 1: I made him put the bed back. Okay, he set
- 1:29:59Speaker 1: it down on the ground, and as he was leaving,
- 1:30:02Speaker 1: I had a split second where I felt as though
- 1:30:04Speaker 1: he might unlive me at that point and my son.
- 1:30:08Speaker 1: I had my son there and my dog. But when
- 1:30:11Speaker 1: he got in his vehicle and started to back up,
- 1:30:13Speaker 1: I turned my video camera on because I felt like
- 1:30:16Speaker 1: he was considering running me over. And I knew it
- 1:30:20Speaker 1: and I felt it. My son felt it too, because
- 1:30:22Speaker 1: he said the same thing. So I got We got
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: behind my truck, so if he did run us over,
- 1:30:27Speaker 1: it would hit my truck and autos. So anyways, it
- 1:30:32Speaker 1: turns out I just want to I'm only saying this
- 1:30:34Speaker 1: because that person who could have just been an innocent person,
- 1:30:40Speaker 1: it was on hard times needing a bed. Let's just
- 1:30:45Speaker 1: say that he did get CHAREDE press charges against this person.
- 1:30:49Speaker 1: And this week, just this past week, that man, that
- 1:30:52Speaker 1: same man led police on a high speed chase. When
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: they confronted him in a parking lot to arrest him
- 1:30:59Speaker 1: and let him on a high speed chase, he ended
- 1:31:01Speaker 1: up going to my farm again, drove his car through
- 1:31:05Speaker 1: the farm, ditched his truck full of stolen goods, and
- 1:31:09Speaker 1: hid in my house that I grew up, and he
- 1:31:12Speaker 1: led himself up in the house and got out. They
- 1:31:14Speaker 1: ended up hours later, got him out, and he's charged
- 1:31:18Speaker 1: with so many I mean, he's a career criminal, and
- 1:31:21Speaker 1: he absolutely could have and I know I felt it.
- 1:31:25Speaker 1: He considered unliving me, and I know he did because
- 1:31:29Speaker 1: he's going to be in jail for years. There's no
- 1:31:31Speaker 1: he has no bond or anything. He's in a lot
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: of trouble. So you just never know what people's intent is, okay,
- 1:31:40Speaker 1: and so we always have to be careful. That man
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: is going to be in jail for a long time.
- 1:31:46Speaker 1: And and it's a good thing.
- 1:31:49Speaker 2: Sometimes she got to be a care and be a
- 1:31:51Speaker 2: Karen Yeah to do that. Look, you know, I used
- 1:31:57Speaker 2: to say, pil I used to do a lot of lectures,
- 1:31:59Speaker 2: and I used to have question in electure. I'd always ask,
- 1:32:03Speaker 2: I said, if somebody breaks into your house tonight, what's
- 1:32:05Speaker 2: the first thing you're gonna do? And they say, oh,
- 1:32:09Speaker 2: I'll call the police. I call the police. I said, well,
- 1:32:11Speaker 2: good luck, it's been nice knowing you. You got to
- 1:32:13Speaker 2: remember something, no matter how fast the police get there, Okay,
- 1:32:17Speaker 2: it's never gonna be fast enough. You are your own
- 1:32:21Speaker 2: first line of defense. God, always remember that you are
- 1:32:25Speaker 2: your own first line of defense, nobody else. And you
- 1:32:29Speaker 2: did the right things, Jessica. And have you ever know this?
- 1:32:32Speaker 2: When police officers stop a car that we walk up
- 1:32:36Speaker 2: to the car. First thing we do we put our
- 1:32:38Speaker 2: thumbprint on the tail light. We do that for a reason. Okay,
- 1:32:43Speaker 2: if whoever's in that car kills us, we got evidence
- 1:32:46Speaker 2: on that car, that's evidence that we stopped that car. Okay,
- 1:32:53Speaker 2: you have to you have to plan for the future
- 1:32:56Speaker 2: in certain instances like this, well for the bad or
- 1:32:59Speaker 2: for the good. And here's another thing, and I've not
- 1:33:03Speaker 2: found this to be true in law enforcement. If you
- 1:33:06Speaker 2: catch people in their crimes, they may hold a grudge
- 1:33:09Speaker 2: against you for a long time. Okay, you awre that
- 1:33:14Speaker 2: and yeah, you ready for that too, just in case.
- 1:33:18Speaker 1: Oh we ready were ready. It's cool, you know, And
- 1:33:22Speaker 1: I'm talking about it publicly, and it's not going to
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: be hard for that man to chase me down. I mean,
- 1:33:27Speaker 1: we my family put his picture all over Facebook stuff
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: and that's how we identified him actually for that and
- 1:33:33Speaker 1: so and it's fine. I mean, listen, Dennis, I've had
- 1:33:36Speaker 1: crazies following me around my entire life. Okay, why do
- 1:33:39Speaker 1: you think I'm so tough.
- 1:33:40Speaker 2: I have to.
- 1:33:40Speaker 1: I have to protect myself all the time. But we
- 1:33:43Speaker 1: can't let criminals get away too with trying to hurt
- 1:33:46Speaker 1: us and stealing our stuff and breaking in and all that.
- 1:33:49Speaker 1: So it said catch twenty two. You know it's you
- 1:33:53Speaker 1: just you got to pick your battles too. You know,
- 1:33:55Speaker 1: it would have been that would have ended differently had
- 1:33:57Speaker 1: it been my dad, or my cousins, or my uncles
- 1:33:59Speaker 1: or somebody that had been.
- 1:34:01Speaker 2: I said this on my show the other night. Sooner
- 1:34:04Speaker 2: or later one day, sooner or later, evils gonna come
- 1:34:07Speaker 2: looking for you. Yeah, no matter what form it takes
- 1:34:10Speaker 2: or whatever. Just be ready. That's all I can tell
- 1:34:13Speaker 2: you is you need to be ready ready, and it
- 1:34:16Speaker 2: can and you know all that. Other people say, well
- 1:34:18Speaker 2: I've already had it come looking, Well it may come
- 1:34:21Speaker 2: back looking for you again. Okay, be ready. That's the
- 1:34:24Speaker 2: main thing, like the bull scouts people paid.
- 1:34:28Speaker 1: Yes j True secrets, is it looks like you've escaped
- 1:34:31Speaker 1: everything nasty under the woods that fate throws at you. No,
- 1:34:35Speaker 1: I'm not wonder woman, I'm just crazy. You know. There's
- 1:34:38Speaker 1: a thin line between being like crazy and being tough. Okay,
- 1:34:44Speaker 1: So I don't know, you gotta be you gotta be
- 1:34:47Speaker 1: a little bit of crazy to even to even to
- 1:34:50Speaker 1: go confront that.
- 1:34:50Speaker 2: Man.
- 1:34:51Speaker 1: I mean, I would advise a lot of people, especially
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: a lot of women, if you're not trained to like,
- 1:34:56Speaker 1: you know, in offensive and self defense and self offense.
- 1:35:00Speaker 1: It's don't go confront people like that, getting your car
- 1:35:03Speaker 1: locked the doors and call the cops. Okay, it is
- 1:35:06Speaker 1: what it is. And men too, okay, men too. It's
- 1:35:09Speaker 1: not just women, especially if you're a child, if you're
- 1:35:11Speaker 1: a teenager or something. Good, don't don't run towards the problem. Okay,
- 1:35:16Speaker 1: just get out of there and stay safe. And I
- 1:35:18Speaker 1: had to protect my son, I had to protect myself
- 1:35:21Speaker 1: and my dog. My dog would have gone after him
- 1:35:23Speaker 1: had I told her to. Okay. But but nonetheless, we
- 1:35:27Speaker 1: just don't know. And uh, and it takes one split
- 1:35:29Speaker 1: second for things to go south, okay, and things could
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: have been very different.
- 1:35:35Speaker 2: Don't take a minute. But you got to get tough
- 1:35:37Speaker 2: with that. That's the thing. Good. You gotta you gotta
- 1:35:40Speaker 2: do what's got to be done in the amount of time.
- 1:35:43Speaker 2: You got to do it, no matter what the situation
- 1:35:46Speaker 2: is concentrate on that. That's that's what will bring you through. Uh,
- 1:35:52Speaker 2: don't you know. And like we said earlier, don't present
- 1:35:55Speaker 2: yourself as a victim. They want you the coward and
- 1:35:58Speaker 2: I so we don't know, start begging for you. That's
- 1:36:01Speaker 2: what they want. Don't don't fall for that. Didn't stand
- 1:36:07Speaker 2: up to show them that you mean business. Okay, most
- 1:36:12Speaker 2: of the time, that's all it takes.
- 1:36:15Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, this fella had been breaking into people's houses
- 1:36:18Speaker 1: for a long time. And uh, and so I was
- 1:36:20Speaker 1: just glad that I was able to be there and
- 1:36:23Speaker 1: get a picture, have a picture. Okay, and uh and
- 1:36:27Speaker 1: he's caught. Now Scott's asking what made what made me
- 1:36:30Speaker 1: have to check my house? Well, I it was our
- 1:36:33Speaker 1: family's farm, and I go down there pretty often and
- 1:36:35Speaker 1: we go. We have a lake and not to get
- 1:36:38Speaker 1: into details, but you know, my I take my dogs
- 1:36:41Speaker 1: swimming and stuff down there. We go shoot guns, you
- 1:36:43Speaker 1: know that kind of stuff. Target practice. Okay, target practice,
- 1:36:48Speaker 1: So that guy is lucky. I want to target practicing
- 1:36:51Speaker 1: at that moment. Okay, yeah, yeah, but but yeah, we're
- 1:36:57Speaker 1: just we're living in a really scary world right now. Really,
- 1:37:00Speaker 1: you know, trying times and people are desperate right now,
- 1:37:05Speaker 1: and I don't think the case of Dennis Martin, it
- 1:37:08Speaker 1: wasn't a case of desperation or whatever. I think it
- 1:37:10Speaker 1: was someone that just took him. Okay, they just took him.
- 1:37:15Speaker 1: He was there and it was just a matter of
- 1:37:18Speaker 1: them just grabbing him. And you know, it was not
- 1:37:22Speaker 1: his family. I don't believe. I don't think you believe
- 1:37:24Speaker 1: his family had anything to do with it. And my
- 1:37:27Speaker 1: heart goes out to his family and everybody who was
- 1:37:30Speaker 1: out there searching for him. You know, a lot of
- 1:37:31Speaker 1: the guys on my research teams are search and rescue fellas,
- 1:37:35Speaker 1: especially Bob Grumpy that passed away a few months ago.
- 1:37:39Speaker 1: He had dedicated his life for a long time to
- 1:37:42Speaker 1: being a search and rescue guy and had a search
- 1:37:45Speaker 1: and rescue dog, So he would have been one of
- 1:37:47Speaker 1: those guys that was out there looking for him back
- 1:37:49Speaker 1: in the day.
- 1:37:50Speaker 2: Okay, That's the one good thing just because they came
- 1:37:54Speaker 2: out of the one good thing that came out of
- 1:37:56Speaker 2: the Dennis Martin case is that we learned from iron mistakes.
- 1:38:01Speaker 2: We were getting better and better and better and looking
- 1:38:04Speaker 2: for missing people, lost people, whatever situation than we did.
- 1:38:09Speaker 2: Then they learned a lot of things from that experience,
- 1:38:12Speaker 2: and that's the one good thing that came out of that,
- 1:38:15Speaker 2: you know, in that respect that you know, probably saved
- 1:38:20Speaker 2: lives in the years since then, you know it did.
- 1:38:25Speaker 1: That's actually one of a good point about what happened
- 1:38:30Speaker 1: there is like it's almost like they got the outline
- 1:38:33Speaker 1: of what to do for future abduction attempts or future
- 1:38:38Speaker 1: missing people on protocol. They were able to make a
- 1:38:41Speaker 1: protocol out of this. And it's really sad. It's almost
- 1:38:45Speaker 1: like the Amber alerts, you know when the children go missing.
- 1:38:49Speaker 1: There's an Amber alert. Well that started because there was
- 1:38:51Speaker 1: a child named Amber that went missing and the mother
- 1:38:54Speaker 1: went and I guess she lobbied, the family lobbied to
- 1:38:57Speaker 1: like have something done in her memory to you know,
- 1:39:00Speaker 1: if a kid goes missing, send alert out around the
- 1:39:03Speaker 1: whole region so that maybe another kid can be saved
- 1:39:08Speaker 1: from being kidnapped. So it's it's a horrible tragic event,
- 1:39:13Speaker 1: but at least maybe other people, maybe many other lives
- 1:39:16Speaker 1: have been saved from the protocol that was made based
- 1:39:19Speaker 1: off of this incident, you know. So I try to
- 1:39:23Speaker 1: look at the good and everything. Okay, there's not there's
- 1:39:25Speaker 1: not a whole lot of good that came out of this.
- 1:39:28Speaker 1: But maybe that that saved some lives. Yeah, but yeah,
- 1:39:34Speaker 1: it's still pretty tragic. Now, I do want to I
- 1:39:37Speaker 1: do want to make a note that there fast forward
- 1:39:40Speaker 1: to nineteen seventy eight. Okay, this is what nine years
- 1:39:43Speaker 1: later after this happened. The Blount County Sheriff's Office reported
- 1:39:47Speaker 1: that an inmate that a local jail had told another
- 1:39:51Speaker 1: had told someone there that another inmate had bragged about
- 1:39:56Speaker 1: kidnapping Dennis Martin and sold and it said that he's
- 1:39:59Speaker 1: so told him off to a man, so they kidnapped
- 1:40:02Speaker 1: him and sold him off. It seemed that the man
- 1:40:05Speaker 1: knew some kind of key unpublished data that was not
- 1:40:10Speaker 1: privy to the public, was at privy to in the
- 1:40:13Speaker 1: facts new or facts than they should have known. Let's
- 1:40:17Speaker 1: just say, but he had admitted to kidnapping Dentnis and
- 1:40:20Speaker 1: so a special agent went did and interviewed him. This
- 1:40:23Speaker 1: is all within that FBI report that was released in
- 1:40:25Speaker 1: twenty twenty twenty twenty two that the man who claimed
- 1:40:30Speaker 1: this requested complete confidentiality. He did not want his name exposed.
- 1:40:34Speaker 1: Of course, he said that the man said that he
- 1:40:39Speaker 1: kidnapped Dennis Martin from Spencefield in the Smoky Mountains. And
- 1:40:44Speaker 1: so that was when the FBI reopened the case pretty
- 1:40:47Speaker 1: much and started investigating it again as a kidnapping because
- 1:40:52Speaker 1: that would mean that the kid at some point had
- 1:40:54Speaker 1: been taken over state lines or something like that. So
- 1:40:58Speaker 1: they took pictures of the man who that guy claimed
- 1:41:02Speaker 1: to be a kidnapper. They were positively identified. It was
- 1:41:04Speaker 1: like twelve months later. So twelve months later, after this
- 1:41:07Speaker 1: support was taken, they went and found this man who
- 1:41:12Speaker 1: this inmate claims said that he had kidnapped Dennis. Of course,
- 1:41:17Speaker 1: the guy in the informant said that he take a
- 1:41:18Speaker 1: polygraph test and all that. Back in seventy nine, the
- 1:41:22Speaker 1: FBI tracked down the suspect, who was living with his parents,
- 1:41:26Speaker 1: said the informant was a compulsive liar and that was
- 1:41:28Speaker 1: all made up. But he just made that up because
- 1:41:31Speaker 1: it was like the worst thing that someone could accuse
- 1:41:34Speaker 1: another inmate of doing, because then all the other inmates
- 1:41:38Speaker 1: will attack him and people will go after him because
- 1:41:40Speaker 1: this is crime against children, okay, And so they had
- 1:41:44Speaker 1: a vendetta against him. He said it was retribution. So
- 1:41:47Speaker 1: they kind of that kind of went out in the
- 1:41:49Speaker 1: wash too in the end. But in January twenty second
- 1:41:54Speaker 1: of nineteen eighty one, somebody told the FBI that Dennis
- 1:41:58Speaker 1: Martin was alive and well that he never died as fortunately.
- 1:42:02Speaker 2: Is that that happens a lot in law enforcement. You
- 1:42:06Speaker 2: have some people that you know, don't want to give
- 1:42:08Speaker 2: revenge against other people, and they blame them for famous
- 1:42:10Speaker 2: stuff like that. I think some of that happened with
- 1:42:13Speaker 2: the John Bena Ramsey case. Uh, you have that happen.
- 1:42:18Speaker 2: That's unfortunate, but it does happen.
- 1:42:22Speaker 1: It is well, it just kind of kind of stirs
- 1:42:26Speaker 1: upon a little bit. But it's not at a question though,
- 1:42:30Speaker 1: you know, in some ways. I mean, my goodness, I
- 1:42:33Speaker 1: every time I turn on the social media, I see
- 1:42:35Speaker 1: another you know, famous person that was supposed to be
- 1:42:39Speaker 1: dead and they're living their best life, you know somewhere allegedly.
- 1:42:44Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not that that is strange. Uh, somebody
- 1:42:51Speaker 2: like that the other day. I forget now who it was.
- 1:42:54Speaker 2: I said, I thought they died, like, you know, several
- 1:42:56Speaker 2: years ago, and they just recently passed away. I don't
- 1:43:00Speaker 2: know if that's some kind of I don't know if
- 1:43:03Speaker 2: there's a media thing with our minds or what but
- 1:43:06Speaker 2: or if it's the Mandala effect or whatever it is,
- 1:43:09Speaker 2: it's very strange.
- 1:43:11Speaker 1: Yeah, just a bunch of psyop. Okay, siop. That's the
- 1:43:16Speaker 1: word that we hear a lot. It's hard to tell
- 1:43:19Speaker 1: what's real and what's not anymore, okay, like what's all
- 1:43:21Speaker 1: made up? And there's just a whole lot of fear
- 1:43:25Speaker 1: monitoring and stuff too. However, I do believe this is
- 1:43:29Speaker 1: a This is a real case of a real child
- 1:43:31Speaker 1: that went missing, and this could happen to anybody ultimately,
- 1:43:35Speaker 1: and so that's what makes it so it's hard to
- 1:43:38Speaker 1: talk about, and that's why I did not even want
- 1:43:41Speaker 1: to discuss this one for a while. But I think
- 1:43:43Speaker 1: it's important that we did tonight because it ties in
- 1:43:47Speaker 1: with not only like Sherry Dedband's story a bit, you know,
- 1:43:52Speaker 1: with the kidnapping, even the robot Grandma him Mount Shasta,
- 1:43:56Speaker 1: but all of the missing persons, the miss people out
- 1:44:00Speaker 1: of those clusters from the David Plaita series at our
- 1:44:03Speaker 1: national parks. You know, Barry gave me that as a
- 1:44:06Speaker 1: target and it made me quite sick actually, because I
- 1:44:09Speaker 1: had I kept going in and doing more and more
- 1:44:11Speaker 1: of those that target and getting deeper into it. And
- 1:44:14Speaker 1: I was seeing that people were being kidnapped out of
- 1:44:17Speaker 1: our national parks, they were being taken underground into a
- 1:44:20Speaker 1: facility that was guarded like Fort Knox is what I
- 1:44:24Speaker 1: wrote down when I told him, and then they were
- 1:44:27Speaker 1: being disposed of.
- 1:44:29Speaker 2: Well, I think, I think, Jessica, there's some there's some
- 1:44:32Speaker 2: forces out there that are trying trying very hard to
- 1:44:35Speaker 2: twist our perception of reality. Okay, however way you want
- 1:44:39Speaker 2: to put it. And I think that's what's going on.
- 1:44:42Speaker 2: That's not good, that's not good at all. But if
- 1:44:44Speaker 2: we can ever shine a light into some of this stuff,
- 1:44:47Speaker 2: that's the main thing and expose it or just or
- 1:44:51Speaker 2: just get it out of the shadows a little bit more,
- 1:44:55Speaker 2: and that's good. And that's that will help things in along, absolutely,
- 1:45:02Speaker 2: and that will I think thwart some of these powers
- 1:45:05Speaker 2: that be that they're trying to do these things. That's
- 1:45:07Speaker 2: to cover up stuff, hide stuff, and be so secretive
- 1:45:11Speaker 2: with us about things working in the show. I call
- 1:45:13Speaker 2: it shadow work, that's what they're doing, and the shadows
- 1:45:16Speaker 2: working against us, trying to twist our reality, trying to
- 1:45:21Speaker 2: foolish and believing things that aren't real, or aren't are
- 1:45:24Speaker 2: not true. That's when we need to be actively working
- 1:45:28Speaker 2: against for sure, no matter what it is, whether it's
- 1:45:31Speaker 2: missing people or crypticidings or spiritual research, whatever the situation,
- 1:45:39Speaker 2: UFOs whatever. And like I said before, there's been so
- 1:45:43Speaker 2: many people in the UFO fields that have lost their lives,
- 1:45:48Speaker 2: whether by so called suicide or strange accidents, whatever the situation,
- 1:45:54Speaker 2: what's going on with that. You've got a lot of
- 1:45:57Speaker 2: this stuff out there hit from us. And here's what
- 1:46:02Speaker 2: I always say about that. Okay, I don't want you
- 1:46:05Speaker 2: insulting my intelligence by by trying to pull pull that
- 1:46:09Speaker 2: little game on me. Okay, I don't think you want
- 1:46:11Speaker 2: that either, Jessica. Nobody does. Nobody wants their intelligence insulted
- 1:46:17Speaker 2: by trying to be deceived by these people. And that's why,
- 1:46:20Speaker 2: really six in the old crawl, it's hard to swallow.
- 1:46:24Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. Well, here's I don't care what people
- 1:46:28Speaker 1: think anymore. Okay, I'm up here talking about bigfoot and stuff,
- 1:46:32Speaker 1: So it doesn't really matter if people, you know, question
- 1:46:37Speaker 1: my intelligence and stuff. It's fine with me. I don't care.
- 1:46:41Speaker 1: But but you're right, it's we we do get the
- 1:46:45Speaker 1: wool plot of our idle lot and it's.
- 1:46:48Speaker 2: And it's they're not gonna stop the signal.
- 1:46:52Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, We're still gonna We're still gonna put
- 1:46:54Speaker 1: the information out. You know. In the end, this is
- 1:46:57Speaker 1: remote viewing data. Okay, so this was from a blind target.
- 1:47:01Speaker 1: I was given a set of numbers and I got
- 1:47:03Speaker 1: all this information out of it. So take it or
- 1:47:06Speaker 1: leave it, okay. And that's why it's subjects involving children.
- 1:47:11Speaker 1: This is very sensitive, okay, and that's why I'm always
- 1:47:15Speaker 1: hesitant to put this kind of information out. But but
- 1:47:17Speaker 1: if it can help, so be it. And that's why
- 1:47:20Speaker 1: why I do what I do. I do this because
- 1:47:22Speaker 1: I love doing this and I feel like it could
- 1:47:25Speaker 1: help somebody, and if nothing else, we have an interesting
- 1:47:29Speaker 1: conversation and maybe we can help people in the future. Okay,
- 1:47:33Speaker 1: that's not being these situations.
- 1:47:35Speaker 2: The definite thing with people like you and others which
- 1:47:39Speaker 2: shows like this. You know, it's very important that we
- 1:47:43Speaker 2: get that information out that we find out try to
- 1:47:46Speaker 2: uncover these things. Just like I said earlier, they're insulting
- 1:47:50Speaker 2: our intelligence, They're trying to deceive us, and why are
- 1:47:53Speaker 2: they doing that. They have an ulterior, dark motive for that.
- 1:47:57Speaker 2: And the more infam nation we can get, the more
- 1:48:01Speaker 2: true information we can get, the better we are definitely
- 1:48:06Speaker 2: for that's right.
- 1:48:09Speaker 1: That's right. Well, this is uh, this has been a
- 1:48:11Speaker 1: fantastic conversation tonight, Dennis, and and I really appreciate you
- 1:48:17Speaker 1: being here with me. I mean you you're retired, like
- 1:48:20Speaker 1: your law enforcement okay, like you spent a lot of
- 1:48:22Speaker 1: time in law enforcement. So I really do value your
- 1:48:25Speaker 1: opinion on all this and your expertise and your your
- 1:48:28Speaker 1: wisdom when it comes to these things. And so thank
- 1:48:32Speaker 1: you for being here tonight about this. Yeah, this is
- 1:48:37Speaker 1: a this is a very sad case. And my heart
- 1:48:40Speaker 1: goes out to the Martin family. Hey, to the Martin family,
- 1:48:45Speaker 1: and to everybody that was involved. And I hope maybe
- 1:48:48Speaker 1: maybe this might help what we talked about tonight, and
- 1:48:53Speaker 1: I hope it does. But if you guys would like
- 1:48:55Speaker 1: access to all this remote viewing data, go to my
- 1:48:58Speaker 1: patreon and it's there. You can see all of it.
- 1:49:01Speaker 1: There are some things that were a little graphic that
- 1:49:03Speaker 1: I kept out the show tonight. Y'all know, we get
- 1:49:07Speaker 1: we get in trouble for everything here on YouTube, Okay,
- 1:49:09Speaker 1: so I'm not I don't censor myself, but with this
- 1:49:13Speaker 1: kind of stuff when it involves a child, I do, okay,
- 1:49:16Speaker 1: but it is there in my in my Patreon, okay,
- 1:49:21Speaker 1: so uh so, thank you to all my Patreon members
- 1:49:23Speaker 1: and to all my mods that were here tonight. We
- 1:49:26Speaker 1: had a fantastic chat tonight, and I'm sorry I couldn't
- 1:49:29Speaker 1: get to everybody's comments, but you guys, I see y'all there,
- 1:49:33Speaker 1: and I appreciate you. And h and Dennis you have
- 1:49:37Speaker 1: a wonderful show too. I know you have a show
- 1:49:38Speaker 1: coming up tomorrow night. Can you tell the audience about
- 1:49:40Speaker 1: your YouTube channel and your new Patreon too.
- 1:49:44Speaker 2: Okay, Well, on Monday nights at nine o'clock being on
- 1:49:47Speaker 2: Eastern Standay time, my good friend General Fountain, we will
- 1:49:51Speaker 2: be going down the road Less traveled, and uh Wednesday nights,
- 1:49:56Speaker 2: i have Hunting the Shadows nine o'clock on Eastern Standard time.
- 1:50:00Speaker 2: Tomorrow night Paranormal point of View at nine o'clock Eastern
- 1:50:04Speaker 2: Sentary time, I'm gonna be talking about subtle magic, the
- 1:50:09Speaker 2: magic that you don't recognize. And when we're talking about
- 1:50:13Speaker 2: that tomorrow night. Also, I have some books on Amazon
- 1:50:17Speaker 2: and Barns and Noble to look up Dinnis curl and
- 1:50:20Speaker 2: you can reach me at dinniswgurl dot com. I have
- 1:50:24Speaker 2: a Patreon now and you can check that out. And
- 1:50:30Speaker 2: also if you need to email me for anything, that's
- 1:50:35Speaker 2: Dennis W. Carol at gmail dot com.
- 1:50:40Speaker 1: Awesome, there is Dennis W. Carrol dot com. Y'all go
- 1:50:43Speaker 1: check it out, purchase Dinnis's books. My goodness, you're you're
- 1:50:48Speaker 1: a wealth of knowledge, and you have so many years
- 1:50:50Speaker 1: of experience with so much experience in the paranormal and
- 1:50:53Speaker 1: the supernatural and demonology and the occult and everything cryptids UFOs.
- 1:50:59Speaker 1: It's so thank you Dennis so much for that. All right, Well,
- 1:51:04Speaker 1: I hope everybody in the audience enjoyed the show tonight,
- 1:51:07Speaker 1: and I hope you all learn something. And yeah, let's
- 1:51:12Speaker 1: let's everybody take care of yourselves out there and your kids.
- 1:51:15Speaker 1: Don't ever take your eyes off your kids, not for
- 1:51:16Speaker 1: one second, especially in these national parks for sure. And
- 1:51:22Speaker 1: say a prayer for Dennis Dennis Martin tonight and with
- 1:51:27Speaker 1: his family. And yeah, I want to thank you so
- 1:51:30Speaker 1: much for everybody for being here. And I want to
- 1:51:32Speaker 1: thank everybody that gave super chats. Sweet Pete, Yeah I
- 1:51:36Speaker 1: did acknowledge. Okay, sweet Peat and Larry and I saw
- 1:51:40Speaker 1: some channel memberships tonight too, so thank you Larry, Larry
- 1:51:43Speaker 1: gifted a membership. Thank you so much, Larry, and and Sabrina,
- 1:51:48Speaker 1: thank you for becoming a member of my channel. If
- 1:51:49Speaker 1: you guys like to become a member of my channel,
- 1:51:52Speaker 1: hit the join button on my main YouTube page and
- 1:51:55Speaker 1: you can become a member too. I do put exclusive
- 1:51:57Speaker 1: content out there once at least once a week. You
- 1:52:00Speaker 1: guys get your own personal videos over there. All right. Well,
- 1:52:04Speaker 1: I have quite an adventure set for tomorrow. I'm going
- 1:52:08Speaker 1: to I'm not going to tell everywhere I'm going, but
- 1:52:10Speaker 1: I'm gonna we'll do report on it on Saturday night.
- 1:52:14Speaker 1: I'm going on a field trip to a place that
- 1:52:16Speaker 1: might be a little haunted tomorrow. But Dennis, we will
- 1:52:20Speaker 1: see you over on your channel tomorrow night. And thank
- 1:52:23Speaker 1: everybody so much for being here.
- 1:52:25Speaker 2: Keep your head on the swivel and on your six
- 1:52:28Speaker 2: that's right.
- 1:52:29Speaker 1: Do you have any final thoughts Ennis on the show
- 1:52:31Speaker 1: on what we talked about with Dennis tonight.
- 1:52:36Speaker 2: Well, tonight, I think you know, we just need to
- 1:52:38Speaker 2: be like that Ranger told me. You know, if you
- 1:52:41Speaker 2: got to always consider a fact when you go out
- 1:52:43Speaker 2: in the woods, you might not come back. So you
- 1:52:45Speaker 2: want to make it a good trip and you want
- 1:52:48Speaker 2: to come back. So be very very careful because you
- 1:52:51Speaker 2: never know what you're going to walk up on or
- 1:52:53Speaker 2: walk into in situation like that, and like Jessica's incident,
- 1:52:57Speaker 2: you need to be prepared. And that's the main thing.
- 1:53:01Speaker 2: Preparation is everthing you definitely don't will walk into anything
- 1:53:05Speaker 2: like that.
- 1:53:06Speaker 1: Don't walk in don't be walking in. No portals, y'all, Okay.
- 1:53:10Speaker 2: No portals.
- 1:53:11Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, Please be careful out there, y'all. Stay safe,
- 1:53:17Speaker 1: go enjoy our national parks, in our state parks, our
- 1:53:20Speaker 1: local parks.
- 1:53:21Speaker 2: It is.
- 1:53:21Speaker 1: Don't don't let all this stuff scare you away. Let's
- 1:53:24Speaker 1: not live in fear. Let's live in awareness and just know,
- 1:53:28Speaker 1: be aware of what's around you, okay, and and just
- 1:53:31Speaker 1: pay attention to where you and your kids are at
- 1:53:33Speaker 1: all times. All right, y'all, have a wonderful night. I'm
- 1:53:37Speaker 1: sending all my loving light to each and every one
- 1:53:38Speaker 1: of you guys tonight, and Dennis, thank you. I will
- 1:53:41Speaker 1: see you guys Saturday night as we go on the
- 1:53:44Speaker 1: ten pm Eastern here back on this channel. All right,
- 1:53:48Speaker 1: all right, see you Dennis. Y'all have a wonderful night
- 1:53:51Speaker 1: and thanks again. Stay safe, y'all.
- 1:53:53Speaker 2: I hie.
- 1:53:58Speaker 1: Ye.
- 1:54:08Speaker 3: Maybe L Nola movie to be in La Vie movie
- 1:54:37Speaker 3: movie pre a. Many teams