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How Many Horror Movie Trailers Did LNC Watch This Week? · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Larger Nerd Junk Glider, the
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  Speaker 1: podcast that's all about the giggy things happening in the
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  Speaker 1: world around us and how very excited we are about them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Ariel Caston and with me is always is the
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  Speaker 1: actually present very here his opinion matters Jonathan.
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  Speaker 2: Strick, I'm just trying to have some fun. Lol, say
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  Speaker 2: oh well or go to hell.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't, don't go to No. We love you.
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  Speaker 2: We were we were as soon as Ariel logged onto
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  Speaker 2: the session. She heard me like quoting the song Don't
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  Speaker 2: Lose your Head from Six the musical. And I have
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  Speaker 2: not seen six. I've only heard some of the songs,
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  Speaker 2: not all of the songs. But Anne Boleyn's song is
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  Speaker 2: one of the ones I've heard, and that's that's from
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  Speaker 2: hers in case, casey, we're curious.
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  Speaker 1: I have seen six. It doesn't like it's very like
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  Speaker 1: Spice Girls concert. It's just the girls all singing songs
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  Speaker 1: on stage with some fun props, amazing lighting design, and
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  Speaker 1: a live band on stage. So even if it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: sound like I was like, I don't know this is
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  Speaker 1: this is more of a concert than a story. But
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  Speaker 1: it was really good and I really enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, the bits I've heard were, I mean, they
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  Speaker 2: are very poppy. It's a little it's a little kind
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  Speaker 2: of it's the kind of poppy that I don't typically
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  Speaker 2: listen to. Like it it is bridging between musical theater
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  Speaker 2: style and pop style. It's not like pure spice girls
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  Speaker 2: pop or anything like that. But yeah, I probably never
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  Speaker 2: would have given it much time if it weren't for
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  Speaker 2: the fact that I am like a former Renfair performer,
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  Speaker 2: a Shakespearean scholar, Like that's kind of like my right
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  Speaker 2: around the era that I focused on in college. So
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  Speaker 2: I have interest in that. I do like the idea
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  Speaker 2: and this is a spoiler for Six, the musical about
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  Speaker 2: six women who at one point were married to Henry
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  Speaker 2: the Eighth, But I do like the idea that the
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  Speaker 2: musical ultimately is about how they decide it is past
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  Speaker 2: time for them to be able to define their own
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  Speaker 2: lives as opposed to constantly being defined through their relationship
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  Speaker 2: with Henry the Eighth.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're like they all have very interesting stories
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  Speaker 1: and in the case of like, is Catherine Parr is
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  Speaker 1: the final one?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, did a whole bunch of really really cool stuff
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  Speaker 1: in history and made all of these like great achievements,
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  Speaker 1: and you never hear about them.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Like all you hear is that she's the one
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  Speaker 2: who who outlived Henry the eighth. That's it, as opposed to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, establishing the school where young women are taught
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  Speaker 2: how to read and things of that nature and writing
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  Speaker 2: books and treatises and things. Yeah, so so cool idea.
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  Speaker 2: It's not really my style. I do think that the
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  Speaker 2: costume design is very evocative, like it is like a
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  Speaker 2: pop concert version of Renaissance style costuming, obviously with huge
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  Speaker 2: departures from actual convention, but neat like lots of sparkles
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  Speaker 2: and gemstones and things like that. Anyway, that's all to
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  Speaker 2: say that, whether I like it or not, the damn
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  Speaker 2: song is stuck in my head.
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  Speaker 1: I get House of Holvine stuck in my head.
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  Speaker 2: I have not yet listened to that one I need to, Like,
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  Speaker 2: I've listened to the first one, like We're six, right,
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  Speaker 2: I've listened to that, and I've listened to the Don't
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  Speaker 2: Lose Your Head, and I've listened to Catherine Howard's song,
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  Speaker 2: which is incredibly depressing. But those are the only ones
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  Speaker 2: I haven't listened to the rest. I need to I
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  Speaker 2: just need to sit down and listen through it, and
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  Speaker 2: I haven't yet done that.
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  Speaker 1: Catherine of Aragon has also got a really good song.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Parr and Jane Seymour both have very like slow
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  Speaker 1: Ballady kind of like each Woman is based on. We
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  Speaker 1: might have talked about this when I went to see six,
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  Speaker 1: but each Woman is based off of several like pop icons. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and so one of the ones that Jane Seymour is
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  Speaker 1: based off of is Celine Dion and that's very the
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  Speaker 1: style of her song.
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  Speaker 2: So gotcha. Well, it's been two weeks since we recorded.
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  Speaker 2: We wanted to try and record last weekend, but it
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  Speaker 2: just didn't work out. Part of part of that is
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  Speaker 2: because our normal recording time wasn't really an option because
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  Speaker 2: Ariel was getting ready to do her thing as an actor.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I performed at dragon Con with the Atlanta Radio
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  Speaker 1: Theater Company. It was a lot of fun. Jonathan and
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  Speaker 1: I talk a lo lot about drop out TV on
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  Speaker 1: this channel and Game Changer, and there was someone there there.
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  Speaker 1: There was a group of Cause players who Cause played
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  Speaker 1: the entire Game Changer experience. You had like basically an
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  Speaker 1: ash A Nico a sam all the podiums with working buzzers,
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  Speaker 1: and then somebody holding up like the whiteboard where they
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  Speaker 1: put the questions and he'd hold it up and it all.
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  Speaker 1: It took a second to realize that the people with
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  Speaker 1: the head zeps on weren't like working the convention. They
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  Speaker 1: were a part of this coseplay. But it was really fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: That's funny. What was the show that you are? Shows
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  Speaker 2: that you did?
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  Speaker 1: I did. I was in an original I was only
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  Speaker 1: in one show this year. We had two shows. One
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  Speaker 1: was based off of the Sleepy Hollow, the Sleepy Hollow story,
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  Speaker 1: and it was it's a really great play. I did
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  Speaker 1: it when they first did it. Somebody else did it
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  Speaker 1: this time and they did an amazing job. That was
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday. I was not in that production. I was
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  Speaker 1: in Friday Night's production and I played an adventuring duchess
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  Speaker 1: in an original piece about a princess and a dragon
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  Speaker 1: stuck in a cave together. And then the other piece
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  Speaker 1: they did was Beyond the Wall of Sleep by Lovecraft.
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  Speaker 2: Lovecraft adaptations are always tricky because Lovecraft stories they aren't
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  Speaker 2: They typically don't have like dialogue or anything in them.
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  Speaker 2: They're typically, like it's almost like a journal entry of
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  Speaker 2: what someone experienced, So it's always a challenge to adapt
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  Speaker 2: those two different media.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they did a really good job. So I've heard
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  Speaker 1: Beyond the Wall of Sleep before by Artsy and it's
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  Speaker 1: always done super well. But this cast just knocked it
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  Speaker 1: out of the park Friday night.
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  Speaker 2: So that's awesome. Well, what stuff have you been watching
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  Speaker 2: or encountering or experimenting with since the last time we recorded?
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  Speaker 1: So I gave and or another shot and or what if?
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  Speaker 1: But the show and or all by old, I mean
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  Speaker 1: like a couple of years old Star Wars thing that
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  Speaker 1: I watched, like the first four episodes and it was like, ugh,
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  Speaker 1: this is a slog, But then like the fifth or
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  Speaker 1: sixth episode, something cool actually happened.
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  Speaker 2: So it's so funny that you, I mean, your opinion
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  Speaker 2: is valid. It's just so funny because I have yet
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  Speaker 2: to watch and Or. But it's one of those shows
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  Speaker 2: where a lot of the folks I've listened to talk
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  Speaker 2: about it are you know, they gush about it saying
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  Speaker 2: like this is the best Star Wars thing to come out,
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  Speaker 2: like along with maybe season one of the Mandalorian.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's another prequel, right, So Rogue one
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  Speaker 1: is a prequel to the original Star Wars trilogy, and
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  Speaker 1: then and Or is a prequel to Rogue one.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. We're slowly working our way backward to the
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  Speaker 2: to the episodes one through three.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so like, it's okay, the actors are great.
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  Speaker 1: It's got Evan Moss back reck in it and Stelling
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  Speaker 1: Scars Garden, tons of people. But the first like three episodes,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't There were lots of flashbacks and they felt
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  Speaker 1: similar to the way that Boba Fette's flashbacks happened, where
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  Speaker 1: it just kind of felt incongruous. And then there were
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  Speaker 1: so many people that I didn't care about or apparently
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  Speaker 1: didn't need to care about in the first couple of episodes,
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  Speaker 1: and so like it was very slow. And in episode
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  Speaker 1: four they introduced my Mathma, and it's okay, she does
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  Speaker 1: some cool stuff. She's a cool character, obviously I'll be
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  Speaker 1: but like, it was just so slow. And then it
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  Speaker 1: was either episode five or six, I can't remember. Some
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  Speaker 1: really cool stuff happened, and all of that was fantastic,
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  Speaker 1: but it took so long to get there that I
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  Speaker 1: had become uninterested by that time. Gotcha being able to
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  Speaker 1: start at the interesting episode was much better.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I still haven't seen it, so I can't really
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  Speaker 2: comment on it. It's just like it's it. I was
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  Speaker 2: the only reason I was commenting at all is just
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  Speaker 2: that the some of the other shows I listened to,
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  Speaker 2: none of which are actually pop pop culture oriented shows
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  Speaker 2: just occasionally they talk about this stuff. But they were
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  Speaker 2: praising the series. But again, that doesn't you know, I
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  Speaker 2: haven't seen it. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I watched more Scavenger's Reign, which is getting
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  Speaker 1: real creepy. We've got two episodes left in the season.
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  Speaker 1: It's real creepy. It gets like scarier and creepier and
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  Speaker 1: more upsetting as it goes on. I finished never stopped
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  Speaker 1: blowing up, which was so like my partner Tony said, like,
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  Speaker 1: the final episode goes so off the rails, and my
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  Speaker 1: other friend David was like, no, no, they threw away
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  Speaker 1: the rails in the previous episode and it was just
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  Speaker 1: a free for all in the final episode. Either way,
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  Speaker 1: it was such a ridiculous romp.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure I'll a lot of the dice that people
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  Speaker 2: were using were pretty high up there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yes, but there was one one suite of so
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  Speaker 1: as the players as the table unlocked certain level dice,
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  Speaker 1: because you roll a dice like a D four, and
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  Speaker 1: if you hit a four on it, it blows up
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  Speaker 1: and you can roll the next a D six immediately,
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  Speaker 1: and if that blows up, you can roll a D
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  Speaker 1: eight immediately, and you add all of those numbers together.
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  Speaker 1: But then you whatever the highest dice you end on
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  Speaker 1: is the dice that you roll permanently. Now, So when
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  Speaker 1: everybody got to at least one twenty sided dice, they
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  Speaker 1: opened the D twenty suite of skills that they could buy,
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  Speaker 1: and one of them was that they could pop that
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  Speaker 1: D twenty down back to a D four, but then
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  Speaker 1: roll with an advantage, and every time they leveled up,
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  Speaker 1: they'd be rolling with advantage, and then if they got
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  Speaker 1: to twenty again and popped it down to a four again,
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  Speaker 1: then they'd have double advantage. So there were other.
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  Speaker 2: D twenty meaning they could roll more than once and
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  Speaker 2: take the highest value, right, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Or they could roll three dice and pick the best yeah, right,
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  Speaker 1: or two dice three dice double advantage is three. There
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  Speaker 1: were other D twenty D twenty abilities, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about those because I feel like it
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  Speaker 1: will ruin the surprise, gotcha. But but yeah, so that
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  Speaker 1: was just delightful and fun. I started watching Kevin kin
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  Speaker 1: f Himself, which we talked about before it came out.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's kind of It's King of Queen's Meats Breaking
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  Speaker 1: Bad essentially right.
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  Speaker 2: It's a show where the tone and presentation of the
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  Speaker 2: show is dependent upon which character you are following. If
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  Speaker 2: you're following Kevin, it's done like it's a schlubby kind
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  Speaker 2: of guy who happens to be married to someone way
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  Speaker 2: out of his league, so it's done a like a
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  Speaker 2: sitcom comedy. But when it's following the woman, it's more
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  Speaker 2: like a grounded, gritty kind of drama drama. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I've heard about the show and it is intriguing. What's
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  Speaker 2: been your Do you think it works?
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  Speaker 1: I do so again, same friend I was talking about
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  Speaker 1: never stopping up with. Also, it was like, oh I
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  Speaker 1: watched that there was one episode and I just felt
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  Speaker 1: like there wasn't growth, or he watched he thought he
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  Speaker 1: watched un twelve episodes. He watched one episode there was
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's the setup is It is really good.
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  Speaker 1: It has done very well. I find kind of as
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  Speaker 1: I continue in the there's two seasons of it, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm in season one still. But as I continue through
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  Speaker 1: the show, I find the sitcom parts more bearable because
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  Speaker 1: it's playing on that trope of sitcoms where like the
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  Speaker 1: dad or the husband is a complete buffoon, everybody loves Raymond,
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  Speaker 1: King of Queen's married with children, where like the guy
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  Speaker 1: is just not really is really not likable. He's not
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  Speaker 1: a good guy, right, He's insensitive, he's uncaring, he's dumb,
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  Speaker 1: and this woman who needs to be rid of him.
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  Speaker 1: But when he's there, the world revolves around him. But
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  Speaker 1: it is really interesting, it works really well watching the
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  Speaker 1: actors that I haven't seen every actor on both sides
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  Speaker 1: of the coin, like both in the sitcom portions and
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  Speaker 1: the drama portions. But the actors who you do see
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  Speaker 1: go back and forth. It's brilliant, Like it takes a
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  Speaker 1: different kind of acting to do those different parts. And
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  Speaker 1: not like saying when you're in a sitcom or a
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  Speaker 1: comedy that you have to be over the top. You
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  Speaker 1: still want to be genuine. The thing that makes comedy
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  Speaker 1: funny is truly believing what you're saying, right, But it's
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  Speaker 1: there's like a there's a different type of delivery that
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  Speaker 1: you can do to it. There's there's a little more
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  Speaker 1: tongue in cheek, and it's like an acting masterclass. It's
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  Speaker 1: really phenomenal. I'm very much enjoying it. I highly recommend it.
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  Speaker 1: It's on Netflix.
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  Speaker 2: You have that one, Jonathan, all Right, well, I guess
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  Speaker 2: I'll see that after I watch New Girl? Is that
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  Speaker 2: the one you keep telling me I have to watch?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, New Girl is a lot more.
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  Speaker 2: Fun I imagine, so yeah, and then wait, probably less
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  Speaker 2: grueling drama and New Girl.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of comedy, and Kevin
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  Speaker 1: Kin f himself like, there's not just because they bounce
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  Speaker 1: back and forth between sitcom and drama, but there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of situational moments that are also kind of funny.
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  Speaker 1: And then I watched Chris Grace as Scarlett Johanson and
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  Speaker 1: that was a really good and really long, slightly too long,
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  Speaker 1: and really bizarre trip.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what this is. I mean, I know
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  Speaker 2: all those all those words make sense, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: So Chris Grace is an Asian actor who did a piece.
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  Speaker 1: He did a one man show at the Edinburgh Fringe
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  Speaker 1: Festival that Sam Reich, the owner of Dropout, saw and
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  Speaker 1: wanted to put it as a part of their Dropout
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  Speaker 1: stand Up Specials because they've got a bunch of comedy
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  Speaker 1: specials and stand up specials they've been releasing lately. They've
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  Speaker 1: all been phenomenal. And in it, Chris Grace talks about
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  Speaker 1: casting issues in Hollywood. So Scarlett Johansson, like the main
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  Speaker 1: character and ghost in the Shell, and they said, well,
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  Speaker 1: this character is basically just a machine. It doesn't matter
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  Speaker 1: what ethnicity she is. But if it doesn't matter, why
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  Speaker 1: couldn't they make her Japanese Because that's where it's set,
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  Speaker 1: That's what all the characters are, That's what her name is,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And it so he he talks about her,
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  Speaker 1: and then he puts on a wig, and then he's
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  Speaker 1: Chris Grace as Scarlett Johansson, and then he's Scarlett Johansson.
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  Speaker 1: Is Chris Grace as Scarlett Joe Hanson, and so like
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  Speaker 1: he keeps leveling out because then he'll talk is as
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  Speaker 1: Scarlet Johnson and it's really interesting. He talks about his
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  Speaker 1: family and his encouragement and the things that he went
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  Speaker 1: through as an Asian American actor, and also about how
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  Speaker 1: like there's this real problem and yes, anybody should be
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  Speaker 1: able to play anything, but not everybody can play everything,
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  Speaker 1: and it is highly skewed in the favor of He
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  Speaker 1: doesn't ever say it's highly skewed in the favor of
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  Speaker 1: white people, but he's like the amount of Chinese food
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  Speaker 1: delivery people he's had to audition A four is immense, right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and like you look at some of the
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  Speaker 2: really notable characters that were the character is a different
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  Speaker 2: ethnicity than white and still being played by a white actor.
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  Speaker 2: Like I think of Remo Williams, which is the nineteen
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  Speaker 2: eighties era action movie, kind of a comic bookie pulpy
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  Speaker 2: action movie.
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  Speaker 1: They have.
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  Speaker 2: The stereotypical wisened Asian kung fu master played by Joel Gray.
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  Speaker 1: This is a great actor, but shouldn't have played that.
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  Speaker 2: Role, right, right, So like that's the kind of thing though, right,
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  Speaker 2: It's incredibly common if the character is of a certain
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  Speaker 2: importance to the story, Very frequently you find a white
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  Speaker 2: performer being cast to the point where that ends up
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  Speaker 2: being part of the satire. In movies like Tropic Thunder,
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  Speaker 2: where Robert Danny Junior is playing this Australian actor who
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  Speaker 2: is white but he's playing a black man. It's satirizing
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  Speaker 2: this tendency in Hollywood to cast white people as different
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  Speaker 2: ethnicities and not seeing that there's an issue with that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, But then he goes into like his college
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  Speaker 1: experience and kind of the like he had a college
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  Speaker 1: professor tell me'd probably get more roles if he moved
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  Speaker 1: to I think it was China, you know. Uh so
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  Speaker 1: all of that, But then it talks about like he
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  Speaker 1: was like so this person who did Ghost in the Shell,
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  Speaker 1: who directed Ghost in the Shell also directed commercial that
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  Speaker 1: he was in because he needed the money, you know,
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  Speaker 1: or like he said he wasn't gonna cast an all
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  Speaker 1: white cast, and then he'd put up a show and
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  Speaker 1: he cast an all white cast, and so like. But
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  Speaker 1: really it's it's he's like the end of it, and
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  Speaker 1: it's still worth watching even I'm telling you. The end
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  Speaker 1: of it is like, this is a problem. We need
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  Speaker 1: to address it. We can't just forget about it. We
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  Speaker 1: need to be more inclusive in all this other stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But I also don't have an answer. So is it
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  Speaker 1: irresponsible for me to bring it up as a problem
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  Speaker 1: if I don't have an answer, and I'm a part
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  Speaker 1: of the problem, but it gives real surreal at points.
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  Speaker 1: It's real good. I will say all of Dropouts stand
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  Speaker 1: up specials they've released so far, Chris Graces, Scarlet, Johansson,
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  Speaker 1: Hank Green Pissing Out Cancer which is super informed too,
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  Speaker 1: it's amazing. And Brennan and as He's Bigger have all
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  Speaker 1: been like fire so awesome.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you're just adding more things that I
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: have to watch now. I know.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Why can't you just sit on your couch and do
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: nothing else all day?
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I mean I did watch some stuff I watched. Well, no,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I tried to watch Lisa Frankenstein.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Was it that bad?
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't call it bad. It's not for me. So
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: here's the issue I have with Lisa Frankenstein. And again
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's bad. I think I think it
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: is a movie probably made for a different generation than
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: my own. I mean, I'm a gen xer, I'm old,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: and and so I feel like this is a movie
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: set in a time when I'm like, oh, this is
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: set when I was like of high school age, or
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: maybe shortly booked after I was high school age, whatever,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: right around that time, so I would think, oh, this
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: is gonna be like me like Stranger Things, where I'm like, oh,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: but you're a nostalgia trip, except I was like, well,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: first of all, I never had any experience as anything
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: like the party that's at the beginning of this movie
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: where people are are are drinking drinks spiked with PCP.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Never had that experience.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Me neither, and I yeah, but neither.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that was just one of the first things.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: But like, the issues I had were I could not
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: tell tonally where this movie was gonna go, because the
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: premise on its own is very high concept and a
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: little zany, but then you've got some like really serious
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: stuff going on, like handling the death of a parent,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: dealing with like sexual assault, like it's it's like some
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: grim stuff. And part of it was me thinking, oh, well,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: maybe they're satirizing nineteen eighties era comedies, right, because if
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: you watch comedies from the nineteen eighties, particularly the more racy,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: raunchy ones, there's a lot of like sexual harassment type
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: stuff that's just played off for laughs, like that's just
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: that's just the joke, And when you view it through
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: a more enlightened lens, it's just horrifying. It's not funny,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: it's just it's just disgusting, right, And to be clear,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: it was disgusting then, it's just that it was not
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: socially acknowledged as such, yet it was thought of as
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: being hilarious. See also Revenge of the Nerds. That's like
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: the quintessential example of how horrible this can get. Right. So, anyway,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: there's something like that that happens early in the movie,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: and I was like, is this are they satirizing the
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff that was done in the eighties as
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: a joke and they're showing like, whoa, this isn't funny,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: this is really awful, And I couldn't tell. So tonally
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I was not really sure. I couldn't because there were
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: parts of it where it was like leaning toward comedy
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: and other parts where it's leaning well away from comedy.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: And ultimately I dropped out. I just couldn't. I couldn't
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: continue because I could not. I couldn't. I didn't understand
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: how I was intended to interpret the film, and instead
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: of being a smart person and seeing it through, I
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: was like, I have a limited number of hours on
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: this earth. I'm gonna watch something else. But then you
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: know what the other thing I watched was, because I've
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: told you already and arguably I wasted my time even more.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Which is Borderlands, which is again the fact that you
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: found So John then told me he watched it and
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: he was like, I shouldn't have I was there any redeeming?
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: And you said that there was nothing redeeming?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: No, there's not. It's it's so here's the thing. Is
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: it one of those movies where you're just like, like
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: like the room where you're you're just boggled by the choices,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: where you're like, none of this makes sense? What were
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: they thinking? No, Borderlands is not like that. It's like
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: a science fiction action. I'll put comedy in air quotes,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: and I do that because very little in the movie
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: even gets close to approaching being funny. It's just dull,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: like all this stuff is happening and I didn't care once,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: and a lot of other people have talked about this,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: so I'll keep it fairly short. But at no time
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: do you feel that any of the characters are really
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: in peril. There's one moment where a character appears to
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: be totally overwhelmed and is left behind, and literally the
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: next scene, they're okay, like you don't even have to wait.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Just it's like, well, sure, glad I got out of
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: that one. I'm like what And none of the characters
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: were cast correctly, like no one felt like the character
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: that they were portraying from Borderlands, and they weren't interesting
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: enough to be to stand on their own as their
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: own kind of character, right, So, like, not only did
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: they not resemble the Borderlands version of the character, they
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: weren't unique or interesting enough to be a new take.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: It was just kind of like an empty shell that
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: dresses like and is named like a character that's from Borderlands. Yeah,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: I was really, I mean I knew I had very
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: low expectations going into it, and I was just kind
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: of flabbergasted that this thing ever got a theatrical release
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: at all, because it felt like the kind of thing
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: that ultimately would just go to streaming because it just
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: wasn't I guess the IP kind of was enough to
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: get it into theaters, but it was just or.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: The level of actors they put in it.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Well true, yeah, like they have some and like great actors,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: but they had nothing to do and no one was
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: really I didn't feel like anyone was doing a great job,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: with the exception of the actor who played Marcus, who
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: it's a little supporting role. It was barely in the movie,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: but he felt like it, like it was the perfect casting.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: It might have actually been the voice actor. I don't know,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: but anyway, because it sounded just like him from the game,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: but I was I.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Was hoping it would be closer to Taylor Gates's review
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: of Taylor Gates is someone who writes for Collider dot
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: com and he thought that Arianna Green, black Jack Black
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: and Green black Jack Black, and Jamie Lee Curtis Man,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: that's a good tongue twister. Yeah, did well, but that
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: they didn't have any plot, plot lines or character development.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: And he said there were a few effective swiss and
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: surprises too, but again not enough.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: See, I didn't find anything a twist a surprise, Like
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: there were things that were revealed in the movie, but
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: none of those revelations seemed at all to be so like,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: if you had played the game, you're gonna be like, well,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: of course, like, yes, that's who this character is. That's
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: not a surprise. If you hadn't played the game, but
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: you had seen a movie before, and I don't care
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: what movie it is. If you had seen a movie,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: you would have seen what was coming a mile away,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: and you're like, yes, because they are hammering it home
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: so hard that it's impossible to miss this. You don't
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: have to be observant at all to figure it out. Yeah,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: it's it's like. Even the soundtrack I didn't think was good,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: which is crazy because like, ain't No Rest for the Wicked,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: which I think was the Borlands two opening song was
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: such a great choice for that game, Like it just
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: worked perfectly. None of the soundtrack stuff really worked in
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: this one. I was sad that Gina Garson as Mad
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Moxie didn't seem like a good fit either. She looked great,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: but it didn't feel like the character. It was fun
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: to see Jessica Nigri the cosplayer the cosplayer slash cheesecake
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: model playing a silent extra in the background of Moxie's
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: because she actually gets a decent amount of camera time
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: for an extra.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you That is interesting? Sorry, I'm a
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: little throwne because this was supposed to be my first
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: first thirty second or less story.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you can still talk about it, just because
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't like it, Like I yeah, because that was
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: just my reaction. I will say also, I mean, I'm
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: not proud of this, but I saw it for free.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Oh you tired of it?
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I mean not, that's like, that's good. I would argue
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: that's going a bit far. It was uploaded in its
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: entirety to YouTube gotcha in full like, and it wasn't
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: It wasn't like a cell phone grab of a screening
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: or anything. This was the movie.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I wonder if it's still up.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I'm sure someone's taking it down at this point. I
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: just saw it was there and I was like, I
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: shouldn't do this. This is wrong, But then so was
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: making the movie.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was wrong. You know, sometimes you
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: try things and they flop and you learn. Hopefully that's
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: what happened. So let's let's go into thirty.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Seconds or less.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Let's do it, and we're gonna start with Porderlands is
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: free or not free. Pornlands is available to watch it
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: home now. On August thirtieth, it moved to premium video
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: on demand. It looks like you can get it on
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Pluto and Apple TV. I'm sure you can also probably
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: rent it through the Amazon, but I'm.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Not certain that's it on YouTube, uld say, or it
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: could just be on YouTube. Probably.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I do not condone watching cinema that you should pay
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: for for free.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Neither do I like if this had been if I
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: just waited, like probably not even long, like a couple
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: of weeks, I'm sure it would be on one of
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: the streaming services I subscribe to. So yeah, I should
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: have just waited. But here's my next one. Do you
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: remember Ultron and the MCU. Sure he was the bad
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: guy and probably what was the worst of the Avengers films,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: but he was also voiced by James Spader, so I
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: think it all evens out. Anyway, Ultron will be back
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: in the upcoming and as yet untitled Vision series, a
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: spin off of One Division. And if you were thinking,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: but wait, Vision died an endgame, then you need to
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: watch One Division seriously, or none of this is gonna
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: make any sense.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: It's also just really good. If you were a fan
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: of Channing Tatum as Gambit, you might be in luck.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds posted on social media recently a deleted scene
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: of at the end of the Deadpool Wolvery movie of
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Gambit looking and seeing some sparkled circles aka Doctor strange circles,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: which reflected in his eyes in a slight like roguish
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: smile like Gambit is wont to do so that he
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: might be They left the door open for him to
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: come back in future MCU stuff. Nothing's been confirmed, but
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: it's delightful and in fact, a clip of that was
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: playing on a TVA monitor at a certain point in
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: the movie. Sorry, I should have led that this might
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: be spoilers.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Well, great to have the spoiler warning after the spoiler,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Well the one put it in the front. I am
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: not editing that out. The one thing I learned from
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Patrick Starr from SpongeBob is that nothing rhymes with rock.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: But soon Patrick will be able to teach me how
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: to do lots of other stuff like cartwheel through enemies,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: smash things with an enormous mallet, and sling taxi cabs
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: are out. That's because Patrick is getting his own Vigia
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: game for the Nintendo Switch, fittingly called the Patrick Star Game.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: It's scheduled to release on October four.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Star Trek Starfleet Academy has begun production and they posted
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: a picture of They say this article on slash film
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: says the whole cast, but it is absolutely not the
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: whole cast, and everybody looks super excited. We learned that
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Holly Hunter and Paul Giamati are going to be a
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: part of this show, so that's super exciting. I just
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: want to see Robert Piccardo and tig Nataro in every
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: scene together. Ever, I feel like their their level of
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: snark slash dry delivery would be amazing, So agreed.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: One mystery that will go unsolved is what will the
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Dead Boy Detectives do in season two? Because there will
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: be no season two. The series that originally was meant
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: for Max but ended up on Netflix has now ended
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: its run. It performed well with critics and fairly well
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: with viewers, So why aren't we getting a season two? Well,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: my guess is part of that maybe due to the
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: scandals surrounding Neil Gaiman, the co creator of those characters.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: He is at the center of several disturbing accusations that
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: make me both angry and sad.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I've missed those. I'll have to ask you about those later.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: But speaking of Boy Detectives, what are Dead They're re
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: releasing a Sherlock Holmes film. It is being filmed for
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: the first time since its release in nineteen twenty two
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: in October at the BFI London Film Festival. It's a
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: silent film. It's called The Golden pinch Nez, where Sherlock
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: finds a women's pair of pinch Nez glasses and then
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: investigates murder. That's just kind of crazy that this movie
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: hasn't been filmed for one hundred years and it's being
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: taken out of the archives. I hope it holds up.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: As part of her now lifelong journey to make people
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: forget that she was in Borderlands. Kate Blanchett is starring
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: in an upcoming film called Rumors. It is not a
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: movie adaptation of the Fleetwood Back album, but rather some
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: sort of sci fi slash horror slash comedy slash political
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: satire movie in which a group of world leaders who
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: are attending a summit get lost in the woods, try
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: to avoid a monster that may or may not be
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: a giant brain, and still try to solve the world's problems.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: That kind of sounds fun. In an effort to try
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: to erase her participation in Borderlands, Sigourney Weaver, no, I'm kidding,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Sigourney Weaver was not a part of Borderlands, but she
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: is going to be a part of Mandalorian and Grogu
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: the movie. She hasn't talked much about her part, but
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: she'll be filming before she goes to play Prosper in
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: the Teen in December.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Here's hoping that that movie gets a different title. I
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: have officially gone from being mildly curious about the upcoming
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: he Man live action film to eagerly awaiting the first
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: trailer of that film. What caught my attention, Well, we
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: found out this week that comedy genius and dreamboat actress
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Alison Brie will be playing the wicked evil Len. I
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: have no idea what kind of energy she's going to
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: bring to this movie, but I am here for it.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: So does this mean we're going to get a campy,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: scenery chewing he Man film? Good Golly? I hope so
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: me too.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I told Jonathan, I think she's going to be similar
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: to her character in Glow, which is not for kids,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: but she kind of plays a heel in that. She
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: just plays a heel in that. Anyhow, speaking of heels
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: and stuff, Creature Commandos has a release date, which is
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: a team I guess full of heels. They don't wrestle
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: as far as I know it comes out in December fifth,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: and we will get seven episodes in the first season,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: so that is fun.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: If you aren't happy with the direction of the Game
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: of Thrones prequel series House of the Dragon, you are
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: not the only one. George R. Martin took a break
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: from not finishing his novel series to write a blog
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: post complaining about the show. It was titled Beware the Butterflies,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: referencing the butterfly effect, or how a small choice can
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: cascade into large consequences. Essentially, it boils down to the
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: series removing a small but pivotal character. Martin has since
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: deleted the post. But nothing's ever really gone, is it.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: That's crazy?
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: And for the next last story in thirty seconds or less,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: the Duffer brothers are working on their next project once
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: for once, Stranger Things has ended. It is called The Burrows,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: and we have now learned that it's going to have
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: an incredible cast Alfred Molina, Bill Pulman, Gina Davis, Clark, Peters,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Dennis O'Hair, Alfred. It's about people who live in a
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: retirement community and then it's infiltrated by a dark force.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: So that's fun.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's well sounds amazing. Also, it's like.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: The upside down of Stranger Things. It's all retirees and
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: so I can's.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just going the opposite. And also Dennis O'Hare man,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I he played my He played Ghetto in stage production
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: of Assassins across from Neil Patrick Harris and did an
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: amazing job. So I became a fan of his upon that,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: and then really liked his work in American Horror Story.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Even though I did not like American Horror Story, but
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I loved his performance in it. Okay, my last story.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Y'all might remember that some sag AFTER Union members who
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: work in video games as voice actors and motion capture
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: performers have been on strike while trying to negotiate agreements
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: with various video game companies. So one of the really
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: big issues is artificial intelligence, in the possibility of companies
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: using AI to replicate voices and motion actors that kind
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: of thing. Well, the union has successfully negotiated with most
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: of the companies and those productions can go back into work.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: There are still some holdouts, however, notably Warner Brothers, Disney,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: and EA Solidarity union members.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, those companies know better and should do better.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, well that is our thirty seconds or less,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: or a bunch of them, and you might think, oh,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: that must mean that they don't have a whole lot
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: to talk about in the back half of the episode,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: and you'd be wrong.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're going to have to kind of go
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: through it a little quickly because I have to do
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: a few other things.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, and it is after it's almost four o'clock as
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: we record this, so okay, well, yeah, first up, let's
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: just do this one super fast. We got an announcement
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: for a game called Mars Attracts and it's based off
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: the ip for Mars Attacks, which originally was a series
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: of trading cards from Tops and then was adapted into
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: a film by Tim Burton, a movie that I don't
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: think very many people liked that much.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I saw it for the first time this fourth of July.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: What did you think?
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: It was ridiculous?
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's so weirdly paced.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: But it's supposed to be funky in campy, and so
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I accepted it for what it was. I'm sure if
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I had seen it when it first came out, I
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: would not have enjoyed it as much, because I wouldn't
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: have known what I was getting into. I just it
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: could be a fun take on the whole roller coaster
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Tycoon game.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's essentially why it is. I didn't actually mentioned that,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: but yeah, it's it's essentially that you're making an amusement park.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: The Martians are making amusement parks, and humans are often
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: like like almost tree like zoo animals in the trailer
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: that we saw, So yeah, that's coming out. I mean,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I'll i'd definitely give it a shot. I love those
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: roller coaster Tycoon games, those amusement park simulator games. I'm
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: not good at them, but I enjoy them.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: There was another movie I watched over fourth of July.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Now I can't remember what it was.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: What was it? Was it Sophie's Choice? No, in terms
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: of endearment, No.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: You know what. It was around the time that we
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: took a break for the show. So it's not even
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: in our notes.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Well, of course it wouldn't be in our notes. That's like,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know why we're even going down this money trail,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: but I'm willing to jump down it with you on.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: It was another like geeky, geeky thing that I should
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: have watched a long time ago that was very, very
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: different in style. I don't remember. Okay, it does bonds. No,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I saw that a long time ago. Okay, something else
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: I don't remember despite watching it twelve twice. Who apparently
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: it took my ability to speak? Is the Sonic the
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Hedgehog three trailer?
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a look at Shadow, which is the
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: new villain. Not new because he exists in the series,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: but new to the films. Yeah, because I think every
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: film is all about introducing at least one new character,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: and they can't do all of them at once because
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: then they would run out of material for sequels. I
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: have never watched either of the Sonic the Hedgehog films,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: and I don't know. I get the feeling that if
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: I did, maybe the first one would appeal to me
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: the most, but each subsequent film looks less interesting to me.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: But that's me. What did you think about this trailer?
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Same pretty much. I The first couple looked okay, this
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: one it's it feels like ace Ventura in a Sonic
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: a Hedgehog shell.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Probably because Jim Carrey shows up and does a lot
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: of mugging to the camera.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jim Carrey does his Jim Carrey thing in a
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: way that I just never really loved, like with humor
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: that is falling flat to me. Uh and Keanu Reeves
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: voices Shadow, but just uh yeah, it just didn't grab me.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I watched the trailer twice. I other
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: than Jim Carrey being a dork and me going, I
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: don't even remember that Shadows spoke, who's the voice actor?
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Like that's what I remember the.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Trailer until you said Keanu Reeves, I honestly didn't know
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: that he was voicing the character because it didn't stand
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: out to me when I watched the trailer. Knowing it,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: maybe I would have picked it out much more quickly.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: But I'm also to be fair, I'm also not always
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: the best with voices. Occasionally I'll hear one and I'll say, oh,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I know exactly who that is, and I'll be right.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: But more often than not, it'll be one of those like, oh, yeah,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: that was Ben Schwartz, Like what Like, I didn't recognize
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: that voice at all? Another voice actor in Sonic the
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Hedgehog movies. We also got a trailer that made both
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: of us get a little teary eyed. It was for
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Super slash Man. The Christopher Reeve Story. It's documentary about
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Christopher Reeve, who of course played Superman in the nineteen
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: seventy eight film adaptation live action film adaptation. Christopher Reeve
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: pretty phenomenal actor, like he was in some other stuff
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: that like. Actually, I think the thing I like him
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: in the most apart from Superman is Noises Off, the
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: movie adaptation of Noises Off. He's fantastic in it and
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: really entertaining to watch. And of course, tragically he was paralyzed.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: He became a quadriplegic after an accident where he was
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: thrown from a horse, and the rest of his life
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: was kind of spent in activism and kind of dealing
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: with reality post accident. And this documentary appears to really
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: explore all that. And I mean it's an extremely emotional trailer.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: I can only imagine I'll be an emotional wreck if
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: I watched the documentary.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I cried very much through the trailer. I also
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: cried in the trailer when they talked about Christopher Reeves
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: and Robin Williams being friends. Yeah, it looks very good.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: James Gunn watched it and said it's really good. So
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing it. I'm gonna have to
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: be in the right mood though.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's gonna be one where you need
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: to have the Kleenex near at hand.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I do appreciate that, after his very unfortunate injury,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: that he pushed along and decided to help others, that
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: is being Superman.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember because I was still watching Smallville when
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: he had a guest appearance, and he would ultimately have
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: a few guest appearances on that show, and I remember
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: watching that episode and when he shows up, the nineteen
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: seventy eight John Williams theme for Superman just very softly
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: plays in the background, and I just lost it.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I lost it a lot less. For the
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Terminator zero animated series.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Trailer, Yeah, it wasn't nearly as emotional, even though there
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: were some like clear call outs to iconic moments in
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: the Terminator franchise, including like the thumbs up as you're
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: sinking into mold metal. I thought, I thought it looked
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: I mean like it made me Actually, it made me
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: think that maybe it would be good for future Terminator
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: stories to be animated, because because as I watched those,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: like why aren't there more animated sequels to Terminator? Those
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: look like better to me than many of the live
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: action films that have recently come out.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looked good. It was kind of scary, and
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: you can actually watch it now because it came out
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: on August twenty ninth.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because we we skipped a week. But yeah, that one, like,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: I do need to watch that one. I didn't even
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: realize it was out, and it's right there in our notes.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep, just add it to the list.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I should have. I should have probably struck that
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: story from our lineup just because it's so out of date.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I need to add it to my list too, so
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I keep a list of shows and
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: movies what I've said I want to watch, so when
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I go I'm done on something, what do I want
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: to watch? I have a list.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's good because otherwise you can just do that
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: thing where you're just browsing endlessly and you never watch anything.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: That happens to me a lot.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I forget about my list about fifty percent of
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: the time. But something I will not forget about, though,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: is season three of Vox Macana, which I think comes
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: out in October. We got a full trailer for it.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I so I never listened to the actual plays of
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Vox Macana. I'm doing the mighty nine, so I know
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: that there's some sad stuff that happens. It's alluded to
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: in the trailer, and then they also go to hell,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: but they make that look kind of fun, so I'm
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: just excited.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a I I've spoiled this for me in
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: the sense that because I've never watched a full episode
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: of Critical Role, I just I haven't sat down to
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: but I've watched a lot of excerpts, and often when
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: I did, I would end up going and reading up
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: on more information because I was like, I don't really
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: fully understand what they were referencing or whatever. And through
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: that I learned about some of the things that are
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: going to unfold in that season. And yeah, there are
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: some big, big story beats that are you know, have
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: like a lot of emotional heft to them, so I'll
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: be interested to hear what the reaction is. I still
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: haven't watched. I watched the first episode of the first season,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: but I have not watched a full season of Vox
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Machina yet.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: It takes it takes. You have to get past the
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: first episode. I think by the second or third I
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: was super into it.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that first episode was kind of a clunker for me,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: honestly because it was, like, you know, that episode obviously
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: it's supposed to serve as the onboarding for the viewer, right,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: You're supposed to like kind of get a feel for
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: who these characters are and what they're all about. And honestly,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: by the end of the first episode, I still wasn't
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: really sure who the characters were and what they were about.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: I could just all I could say was like, they're
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: rowdy and rude.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Like it. It does tie into the rest of the season,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: but it feels very different from the rest of the season.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: To me, I would say keep it on your list,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: try to finish it, because the good moments are really
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: really good.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: I'll definitely go back to it. One thing, so we're
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: getting into some horror movies. This isn't the end of
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: the episode because I know to.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Forgive it since we're in September now.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Well, and I also I put in the notes that
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: you don't have to watch them if you don't want to,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: And so I was going to ask you, did you
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: watch the trailer for Terrifier three?
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I put it on and then I put it on
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: super fast and then I clicked through and about the
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: shower seat or the shower or bathroom stall scene, I went, nope,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I'm done.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, So the answer to my question was, know, you didn't.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Watch it like a quarter of it.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: So Terrifier it's a series of horror films. The antagonist
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: is Art the clown, who came from a short film
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: and also another horror movie, kind of like an anthology story.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: He was featured in that and grew into these slasher
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: movies that I don't think are very good. I have
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: seen the first two and I don't think they're very
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: good movies. They are very reliant on violence and gore,
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: and I don't find them horrifying so much as gross.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying there's not a place for that,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: but it doesn't appeal to me as a horror fan,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: like I prefer horror movies that are genuinely tense and
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: atmospheric and scary, and I don't find the Terrifier movies
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: to be terrifying. I just find them to be really grotesque.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: So this film, the trailer looks very much in the
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: same way it is interest because the protagonist from part
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: two is the protagonist or appears to be the protagonist
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: for part three. That's interesting because if you watch part
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: one and you go to part two, you know the
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: character from part one is not the protagonist for part
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: two because of the end of part one. That's that's
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: as much vague booking as I'm willing to do for
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: this series. That doesn't I don't think merit it. If
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: you're if you are a fan of Terrifier, that's awesome.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: I hope you really enjoy Terrifier three. Again, I don't
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: think there. I don't think it's really a bad movie.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: It's just a movie that doesn't really work for me.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: I will say though, that the production value definitely goes
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: up each with each film. This Terrifier three looks more
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: like a real movie than either one or two did.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Kind of kind of like the product production value for
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: the company that does, like Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: goes up each each movie.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because the next story we have is the trailer
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: for Peter Pan's never Land Nightmare. Did you watch this trailer?
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Like fifty percent?
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: You could have made it all the way through this.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: The reason why I said that you wanted to skip
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: this one too. Was not because I thought it was
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: going to be too scary for you, but because I
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: happened to know that Peter Pan is one of your
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: favorite characters, and I wasn't sure that you would appreciate
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: a horror movie that twists that character to becoming a
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: slasher villain.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, Disney twisted him to be not a complete
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: and total butthole, so because he's kind of scary in
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: the book. But I mean I watched enough of it,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: I know what happens. I think I just kind of
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: skipped through a little bit. There was a comment that
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: said that Peter Pan was just Freddy Krueger meets Jason
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: meets like Phantom of the Opera or the Crow or
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: something like that. It was a very funny comment. I
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: wish I remembered it now.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: I was getting more like Pied Piper, you know, like
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: the character who leads all the children away, mixed with
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Freddy Krueger. Like that was kind of the vibe I
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: was getting. But yeah, the production value on this movie,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: like you said, was looked like it looked like a
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: real film, as opposed to the Winnie the Pooh movies
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: look like I've got a decent high resolution digital video camera.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Let's shoot a movie.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they said it was The Joker, the Crow,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: and Freddy Krueger, which.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: I could kind of see what they're talking.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: About, just in the way that the head actor look.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I didn't. Uh. This one didn't appeal to
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: me either, but it appealed to me more than the
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Winnie the Pooh movie did. Like, I saw this trailer
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: and thought, I don't really feel the need to go
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: and see this either. It's not not grabbing me, but
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: it at least looks like a real movie, and maybe
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: that would be enough to get me curious to watch it.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: But I still have no desire to watch the Winnie
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: the Pooh ones.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, saying I don't think I have desire to
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: watch this, but I do think it looks better. I
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: also have no desire to watch the Winny the Pooh ones.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: I think those are ridiculous.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: I did like the next scary trailer though, a lot
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: for Die Alone, Die Alone with Carrie.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Anne Moss Like, I like that, you're stressing that. But
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: we've cut the part where I know where people would
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: to understand why.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: So we cut this thing where I was talking about
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: an interview with Deborah Ann Wall and how she feels
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: a lot of anxiety. And it was because I made
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: a mistake and Johnathy called me out and then I
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: stuck my foot in my mouth further. Anyhow, it was
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: very funny. I'm sorry you'll never get to hear it.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: But uh, she just yeah, you called Deborah and Wall.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: You called her carry Anne Moss because another three named actor.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: And yeah, and I had just watched and read the
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: name Carrie Anne Moss.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Right, And I can't criticize you for that, because good
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: knows there are countless times where I've used the wrong
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: name for somebody, like ninety nine times out of one hundred.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: If it happens on the show, I'm the one doing it.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: And to be fair, Deborrah and Wall on Daredevil plays
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Karen Page, and Karen is close to Carrie, and.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Carrie and Moss was in Jessica Jones.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: She was I forgot.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was the lawyer chick.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, so so easy to you know,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: their cousins essentially.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, same person really when you get down to it.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: But Carrie and Moss also played Trinity in the Matrix. Yes,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: and great actress. This trailer is looks it the trailer
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: at very face value, is this kind of she's not
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: old but older woman. She's not a teenager like a
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: lot of horror movies have. Yeah, rescues this young boy
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: who has amnesia, who's looking for a girl that he
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: was traveling with and got separated from it.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: When you say young boy, you really mean young man.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Young man. He's a teenager or young adult after they
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: gotten an accident during I guess like a zombie virus
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: outbreak thing where people are getting turned into tree zombies.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: It looks like, yeah, it's they're called the Reclaimed because
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: the earth appears to be reclaiming people's bodies to become
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: part of nature. Like the idea being that we pushed
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: nature so hard that now the earth is pushing back.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: That's kind of the the vibe I got. And Carrie
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Anne Moss plays like a rugged lone survivor type.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a little bit humor in it. It's very dry,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: but it looks good. It looks like a fun, suspenseful
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: take on a zombie movie, which is how zombies were
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: intended to be kind of in the first place.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: And it still also seems to have a hint of
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: that you don't know who you can trust among the living.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I had to stop myself from saying that it's
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: got a misery vibe to it, because I don't know
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: that it does, but that's my suspicion.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it doesn't look quite as cynical as something
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: like The Walking Dead, but there's still an element of
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: that right where once you get past I mean even honestly,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: even Nia the Living Dead. Ultimately, the lesson of Nither
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Living Dead is you can't trust the living because that
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: lesson isn't really the forefront of that story through most
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: of it, although there is like disagreement within the house
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: among the survivors, but the conclusion of neither living Dead
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: certainly drills home. Yeah, the dead or a problem. These
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: ghouls are a problem, but you really can't trust the living.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Everything since then has taken that idea and cranked up
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: the fat so hard that the scream bleeds.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but this looks good. I will probably actually
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: watch this. I might even go to the theater to
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: watch this one.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, if you do, let me know, because I'm
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: willing to go see a horror movie. I'm kind of
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: curious to see how Aeriel reacts to horror movies.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Look, you'll never You'll never get to see my best reaction,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: which is during signs in the in the Kid's Birthday
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: party scene where I stood up in the front of
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: the feet theater onto my feet and screamed.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Well, here's hoping I don't because I think I would
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: probably turn beat red and then pass out.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: It was It was a full theater too. We were
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: in the front row because there were no other scenes.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I think, I think, how will we talk about
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: a different horror movie where if you scream, I doubt
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: it will be because you were scared.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So Screamboat, which is based off of Steamboat Willie
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: Gone Evil? I suppose, yeah, has it. It's got to
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: be a teaser trailer. They don't. They barely show you anything.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's more than like you remember we got
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: that one teaser that was like almost nothing where it
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: was just like that was like.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: AI generated, yeah, witches almost.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And now we've got like a slightly more substantial teaser.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: It looks terrible, Like we all knew this was coming
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: because once Steamboat Willie went into the public domain, obviously,
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: lots of different people pounced on the potential of finally
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: being able to get their grubby little hands on Mickey
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Mouse to do things that Disney never would do with
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: their most valuable IP. And it's just the Steamboat Willie
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: version of Mickey Mouse that's in the public domain right now,
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: and over time, other versions of Mickey Mouse will also
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: enter the public domain, but right now that's the only one.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: So this horror movie is just someone trying to cash
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: in on yeah, that fact, and it looks like that's
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: how much thought went into the film itself. It just
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: does not look good. And I don't say this as
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: a Disney defender. If they were able to make something
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: that was really like kind of twisted and was able
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: to satirize Disney, especially the company Disney, like being able
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: to like satirize the corporation of Disney, and how the corporation, uh,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: you know, operating a corporation while simultaneously trying to maintain
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: kind of like a family friendly persona is like really
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: hard to do because the two are not in alignment. Right.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: They've done some pretty not great stuff lately.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So if that had been like, if I had
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: gotten any hint of that in this trailer, I would
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: have said, well, that's at least interesting, but I'm not
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: getting any of that. It just looks like it looks
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: like a bog standard kind of monster slash slasher movie
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: with bad effects and costumes.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: They didn't even You can tell they didn't put thought
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: into it because at one point there's a scared girl
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: looking down I guess a steam pipe or something from
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: the top of the boat down and there's a crunching
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: noise and that's supposed to be creepy, like maybe steamboat
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: Willy is eating somebody, but it's a crunching noise as
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: if you had human teeth. It did not at all
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: sound like a mouse gnawing on someone.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as far as we know, Mickey Mouse was just
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: down there with a bag of Doritos go into town. Yeah,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: it was for the Everything was bad, Yes, So we
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: have no high expectations for that movie. If we're lucky,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: it'll be so bad that it'll become a cult classic.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: But I don't have that confidence yet.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: If if we're lucky, maybe it'll make you just a
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: little bit smile.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe it'll make you smile too.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: So we got an actual trailer for Smile to the
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: scary movie about a woman who has this Smile demon
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: following her. This trailer is much more effective than the
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: teaser trailer we talked about a while ago. This one
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: actually made me a little bit scared and actually made
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: me feel like there was some plot.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, totally agree. Yeah, because like
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: I watched the first Smile and I thought it was
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: a decent, demonic kind of storyline horror movie. I didn't
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: think it was great, but I thought it was decent, Like,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: which is you know, actually saying a lot because there's
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Horror is one of those genres where the bar of
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: entry is pretty low. You can typically make pretty low
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: budget horror movies, so that tends to be especially where
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of first time filmmakers go right like they're
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: trying to make a movie. Horror is one of those
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: genres where you can kind of get an entry point,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: which means that you get a lot of really crappy
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: horror movies. You get some good ones too, But and
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: I think Smile was decent, not great, but decent. We
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: got the teaser for Smile too, and I agree with you, Ariel.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: When I first saw that teaser, I was like, oh,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: I think they're just treading water. This doesn't look like
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: it's going to be as good as the first one.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: This trailer, I think, definitely does a lot better. For
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: one thing, I like the protagonist. She's like a musician,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: like a pop star, and I kind of was digging
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: her performance. Not that we got to see a lot
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: of it, but the bit we saw, I kind of
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: liked the vibe she was creating.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because she was it seems that they made her
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: an intelligent character. Yeah, which was you know, she wasn't
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: playing into the pop star diva or the pop star dance.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: She just she seemed really grounded despite her circumstances, And
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's very important when you are living
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: in extreme, ungrounded circumstances to make it believable. So yeah,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: fantastic job.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: I agree, absolutely, Yeah, No, that's good insight. So yeah,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: this one, I mean, I don't know that I'll see it.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'll see it in the theater with friend of
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: the show, Shay Lee, because she loves horror movies, so
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: maybe we'll go see it. Although demonic movie are that's
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: one of her ick points. If it's a if it's
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: a movie with demons, then that can be an issue,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: and if it's a movie with child endangerment, that's a
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: that's a that's a nope, that's a write out Nope.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: So we'll have to see, but I thought, you know,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: it has potential. Next up, we have a movie with
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: Amy Adams that's based off a novel. It is titled
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Night Bitch, and uh, on the surface, it's it's it's
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: a movie about a woman dealing with the realities of
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: being a mother and having to navigate a world that
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: often can be very unfriendly toward mothers. Beneath that, however,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: there's the possibility that she does, upon occasion, turn into
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: a dog.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know if that's true or not,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: or if she just imagines it. There is one moment
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: in the trailer where like she's talking to maybe her husband,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: I think, Who's like, you gotta choose happiness, and she
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: slaps him and then he says you got to choose
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: happiness and she just smiles and says, Okay. That makes
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: me wonder if all of this is kind of in
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: her brain right.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: It Like it kind of has that scrubs thing where
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: you're like you're like, oh, what I was watching was
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: just her imagining. I get that right, Like, there's so
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: many times in the day where I'm just like imagining
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: myself giving someone a good kick to the how's it going?
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: And I don't actually kick anyone anywhere in the how's
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: it going? Or otherwise, but in my head I did.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, well, yeah, like you said, this could
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: be a case where the film explores this issue of
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: mothers navigating a world that frequently can be hostile toward
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: them and uses the dog thing as kind of a
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: a metaphor or whatever, or yeah, maybe it's actually what's happening.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know yet, I actually can. I hope that
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: they don't answer it.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Me too, me too, you know. And I do think
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: it is important. I say this as a person who
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: is not a mother, but I have helped raise a
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: lot of children, and you know, it's not for not trying.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: But I know I've had a lot of friends and
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of other people who kind of not just
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: because of society but also just because of personal time
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: and pressures, lose their identity when they have kids. So
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: I do think it's important to have that support because
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: much like in a romantic relationship where you can't rely
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: on the other person to completely complete you. I would
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: imagine with kids, you still have to make sure that
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: you hold on to what is uniquely you and makes
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: you happy to Yeah, I mean, your kid obviously hopefully
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: would be making you happy.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: But well, yeah, and like so much of your life,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: by necessity has to be focused upon and dedicated to
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: your child, or at least should be, because your child
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: needs to have that parent and that advocate and that protector.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Like all those things are are roles that a child needs.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: And uh and so, like you know, we don't have
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: kids either, but we every friend we've had who has
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: had kids, we're still i would say, we're still friends
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: with them. We just never talk to them or see
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: them or do anything with them anymore because they're lives
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: by necessity, end up becoming more about the kids than
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: anything else. Again, I think that's the way it should be.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: But it also means that that comes with consequences, and
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: one of those is, as you say, the chance of
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: you losing your own identity in the process.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So I'm interested to see how they handle this.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: I'm very interested to really see more about the movie.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And and Amy Adams looks like she's acting her
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: butt off in it like it looks it looks intense. Yeah.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: So people who are acting their blockie butts off are
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: the subject of our next trailer, the one that looked
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: border Lands and said hold my beer.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, way back when the pandemic was in full, full,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: full swing, at the beginning of its full full swing,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: they talked about a Minecraft movie coming.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: Out called Minecraft Movie.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: Back Minecraft, the movie where Jack Black would be voicing Steve.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: And that's all we knew.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: And now we have a teaser.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I never expected what I watched.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: Never.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: The chances are, if you are listening to this podcast
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: and you're the kind of person who likes pop culture,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: you have already seen this trailer. But just in case
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: you haven't, uh, we don't get a whole lot. It
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: is a teaser. It has a group of humans, actual
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: human beings, real live action humans, entering into the blocky
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: world of Minecraft, and then Steve manifests in front of them.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: But Steve is not a blocky Minecraft character. Steve is
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: just Jack Black in a turquoise shirt being Steve.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it looks like the pig Man or Piglands
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: or the Villains or whatever. I don't like it is
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: so cartoony and weird, but not even like Minecraft cartoony
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: is just ugly cartoony. And then the I was about
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: to say the rock, but it's not the rock? Is she?
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: Samama has the worst wig on? I'm assuming it's a wig.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I told Arielsson, I can't wait for all the
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: body shaming commentary to come out because he's wearing clothes
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: that do not show any definition. So like he looks
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't call it dad bod because God,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: I would kill for that body. But but he doesn't.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: You know, he's not jacked like he would be an
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: aquaman or something, right, Like, he doesn't look like that.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: So I'm guessing that we're going to get that just
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: because everyone associates Jason Momoa with being a big old
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: slab of man meet and he doesn't quite look like.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's a huge dude, but he doesn't look
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: like that in the at least in this trailer.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: No, he's kind of dressed like Randy Machaman Savage on
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: a very covered up day.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just on a down day. He's not gonna
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: get slammed or have to drop an elbow on anybody.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Maybe he'll snap into a slim gem. We don't know.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: I yeah, I have seen pretty much universally a series
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: of reactions to this that range from a, Oh, I
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: don't think i'll see this too? What were they thinking?
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think I've seen a single positive take on
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: this trailer.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: No, I did get a third reaction, which was, I
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: don't want to see that, but I have two boys.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go see that.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe it'll end up being better than what the
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: trailer has it looking like. But yeah, the trailer didn't
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: didn't win me over either, because, like I could overlook
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: the weirdness of live actors in a world of Minecraft.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: If I felt that it was really witty, like if
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: it felt more like the Jumanji reboots, maybe I could.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: I could maybe dig in a bit more. But I
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: didn't get.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: That, which is maybe what they're doing with making Steve
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: just Jack Black instead of a blocky character.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: But yeah, maybe maybe that would have just been too horrific.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe at some point all the characters get transformed
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: into blocky characters. I don't know. I don't think I'm
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: going to find out until I hear about it from
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: someone else because I can't imagine seeing this.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: I will probably put it on when it is streaming
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: for free and then ignore it while I do something else.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I can say that I watched it. Now.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: Next up, you put in our lineup a trailer for
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: Arkane season two. Now. I have not seen Arkane, but
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: after seeing the trailer for season two, I'm like, maybe
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: I need to make time for this because the animation
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: really was. I loved it. I love the art style
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: and the animation of this.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: The animation is beautiful. It is absolutely beautiful. Arcane didn't
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: really grab me, and I don't know if it's because
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: I was expecting something that was much more like Legal
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Arcane is the cartoon based off of League of Legends.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: We talked about it. It's getting like a DVD, Blu
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: ray hard media release as well as streaming purchases. Despite
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: the fact that it's a Netflix show. That's huge. That
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: shows you how popular it is.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: It is an interesting story. You don't have to be
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: a League of Legends fan to watch it. I think
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: I was just looking forward to more like League of
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Legends game vibe, and that's not at all what you get.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: It is a drama, but it is incredibly there are
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: there are league of legends, Easter eggs and characters and things,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: but overall it's it's just a really good drama based
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: around the character. Yeah, based around the characters of v
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: V and Jinx. So there are some other characters in there,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: but they're the main two in their relationship. Yeah. I'd
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: say if you like the animation, it's worth giving it
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: a shot.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was really impressed by it, Like, and that's
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: weird because it's it's a kind of animation where there's
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: like some computer assists stuff in there, like maybe it's
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: all computer I don't know, but and often I can
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: find that kind of off putting in cold but I
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: found this one like just very dramatic and very arresting.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: So I was impressed. And I'm glad that you put
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: it in the lineup because otherwise I don't think I
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: would have ever seen it if you hadn't put it
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: in the line Yeah.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: It is a mix of two D and three D.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: And what I will say is a story is a
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: little slow. It's a drama. It maybe has more of
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: a noir pace to it.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: Well, and you know, I'm a child of the seventies,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: so I can handle that as long as I find
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: characters to be interesting. Like if you if you make
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: it a slow story and there there are no characters
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: for me to glom onto, that's gonna be a problem.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'll be interested if you watch it to
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: hear hear your thoughts on it. I don't know. Did
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: you ever play League of Legends?
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Uh, never to any real extent. I think I gave
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: it a shot, like, or maybe I watched video of it,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: but I was not a League of Legends player. I'm
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: not any of those arena based or what do they
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: call them, the ones where it's like usually there's like
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: three pathways and it's all about trying to defeat lane based. Yeah,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know there is a there is a name
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: for this style of game, because there's obviously beyond League
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: of Legends, there's quite a few others. I never really
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: got into those. That's that's not really kind of my
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: my wheelhouse for gaming. I play a lot of different
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: kinds of games, but not that style. It's moba, right, moba.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: I should remember that, But it's been so long since
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: anyone said the word moba. To me, but I haven't.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: I was never into MOBA's, I was never into MMOs.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: I do like RPGs, and I like like survival horror
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: games that kind of stuff. So it just wasn't in
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: those types of games that I typically play, So I've
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: never really given it much time. How about you? Have
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: you played it?
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: I was never good at it, but I played it
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: a whole lot for a while because that's what my
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: friend group was playing. So I'd go on and I'd
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: play Siver, and I'd do my little bottom lane and
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: let everybody else win the game. I tried my best.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, That's that's kind of where I would be if
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: I were to play it, honestly, Like, it's just again,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: it's one of those where I'm like, I can see
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: where people are forming strategies, but my brain just doesn't
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: work that way, and so I would end up being like,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: if you want me on your team, it's because you
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: like me as a person and you realize that I
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: am not going to really contribute in any meaningful way
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: to the success or failure. Well failure probably, but not
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: so much the success of a team.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. The other thing I'll say about the Arcane
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: season two trailer is that they've said, I think this
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: is the last season for it, so it's a contained story.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that they aren't going to do other
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: stories within the League of Legend verse. It's just that
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: this is I think the wrap up of the end
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: Jinx's story.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: Cool.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: It might be wrong, there might be a third season,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: but I think this is it.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: I think this is it. I like that too, though.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: I like when there's kind of a plan for a beginning, middle,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: and an end to a story so that you don't
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: run into a risk where let's say that you've just
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: had a season that got really good critical reception and
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: decent viewer reception, and the show ends its first season
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: and then the show creator goes and gets accused by
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: multiple women of having done terrible things, and then you
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: don't get Dead Poise Detective season two.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I did correct. I did double check myself,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: just to go back to the happier stuff. Season two
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: is the final chapter of Arcane. The co creator, Christian
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: Linky says, l I n k E says, there's much
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: more to come from the Greater.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: War, so cool. We also before we started recording, there
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: was a new trailer for Wicked that came out, and
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: I even debated on not putting this in the lineup
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: because we've already talked about the trailers for Wicked and
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: our confusion over the fact that this is a film
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: that's been split into two parts, and where do you
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: think the split's going to be. Is it going to
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: be a film that's told in actual chronological order? Is
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: it going to jump around? Because a lot of the
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: stuff that's shown in the trailer, it's referencing stuff that
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: in the stage musical happens at the end, and you're like,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: You're like, what are they gonna do for part two?
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: If this is like I mean, define gravity is like
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: the big nub at the end of Act one. So
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: maybe maybe it's just them doing Act one. But that
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: does mean that the second movie is going to be
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: a real slug because all the bangers in Wicked are
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: in the first act, not the second act.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: I've never seen Wicked, but it does feel like, knowing
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: the story of it and knowing the story of the
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz, it does feel like they go to
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: the end of the natural conclusion of Wicked. Yeah, maybe
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: Wizard of.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: Oz in it. Are you familiar with at least some
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: of the songs from Wicked. Oh yeah, name a song
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: that you know from Wicked?
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: I know Defying Gravity, I know Act one? Yeah, I know.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: Popular that's in the middle of Act one.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, I know the Wizard That's.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: That's also an Act one. Yeah, that's that's a next one.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: Do you know los I.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: Know, I know Uncle Walters, but now green shoed, Pajama Poka.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: I have no I what you're talking about. But do
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: you know unless you're talking about Dancing through Life, in
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: which case that's Act one. Do you know? Do you
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: know the song what is this feeling aka loathing? Well, yeah,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: that's also Act one. See, like these are all Act
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: one songs, which is making me wonder, like, what.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: Is Fiora's song? Is that Act on or Act two?
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: Fiora Is song is Dancing through Life and that's Act one.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: I mean he does have other songs with Alphaba, and
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: some of them are in act too, But yeah, like
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: all the ones that I think of as being the
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: standout songs are in Act one, which makes me think
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: that the second film is going to be pretty light
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: on the really memorable stuff. There's some like love songs
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: and stuff in the second act.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: So what about the.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's in the nineteen thirties Wizard of Oz as is,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: except this trailer for Wicked incorporates that music in part
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: of it. And I don't know if that means that
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: they're actually incorporating music from the classic nineteen thirties Judy
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: Garland era Wizard of Oz, but it sounds like they are,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: and I thought that was kind of cool. Like that
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: was the only reason I even mentioned it to you,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: Ariel is because I was like, oh, it's kind of
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: neat that they incorporated this musical sting into the trailer.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: But I didn't think it was enough to put it
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: in the show lineup. But we did it anyway.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: We did it anyway. I didn't know if you would
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: put this in the lineup. You did put this in
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: the lineup, right.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because you showed it to me.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so there. Luzimki is a show coming to Adult
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: Swim based on a love crafty and esque horror manga.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: It looks real creepy.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to do with It has to do
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: with spirals, like spiral, the shape of a spiral, which
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: makes me think of two things It makes me think
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: of the sequel to The Ring, which was the novel
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: The which was called Spiral. But it also makes me
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: think of they might be giants who have a song
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: called the Spiraling Shape will make you go insane. Everybody
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: wants to see that groovy thing. It's a great song.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's. It definitely has strong Lovecraftian vibes,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: an extremely atmospheric approach to horror, and I only wish
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't prefer dubbed versions typically, I like subtitles. However,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: I don't speak Japanese, and I would have loved a
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: dubbed version only so that I could have paid more
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: attention to the art, because they speak so quickly, and
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: the scenes changed so quickly that I was still reading
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: captions while things were changing on screen, And I're like,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: but I want to see all the creepy stuff.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Uzumaki is I think. I think it's also done
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: by Yeah, it's done by Junji Edo, who has done
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: many many other creepy mangas as well horror mangas, including
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: the Enigma of Amigara Fault, which actually got kind of
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: like a meme following for a while it's about an
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: earthquake happens and these holes open up in a cliff face,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: and people are called to specific holes.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: Right because they fit perfectly into them. I've seen I've
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: seen the the like the sketches from that. I didn't
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: know that he that I mean makes sense. It's the
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: same person.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And then an other earthquake happens and all
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: those holes get poorly disfigured, and then someone looks in
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: a hole and they see a person who is now
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: the shape of that hole, and it's really creepy. It's
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: very disturbing. So I'll stop there. But this is the
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: same this is the same author, So.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: Well cool, I mean, it looks really well done, Like
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: the art style is so evocative and extremely unsettling. So
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: it looks like it looks like it's a really good
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: spooky series to get you in the mood for spooky season.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, and then to cheer you back.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: Up to nothing spookier than Kathy Baits.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you're right.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she could be a real misery going back to
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: die alone, because I think that Carrie on Moss has
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: maybe taken that child so she doesn't have to die.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: The young man so she didn't have to die alone anyhow. Yeah.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: So Kathy Baits is playing Madeline Macklock Mattlock in a
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: reboot kind of of the Mattlock series. I say kind
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: of because she actually says, my name is Madeline Mattlock,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: like the old Mattlock show.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, in this series, the Andy Griffith television series
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: Mattlock existed, like it, it existed as a television show,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: not the character. So she just happens to share the
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: name with this character. And she plays the part of
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: kind of a slightly befuddled older woman in order to
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: be able to learn more about people and to manipulate
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: them and navigate through different situations because she finds that
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: when people have a lower expectation of her, she can
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: get away with a whole lot more stuff.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's kind of a commentary on how people
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: tend to kind of ignore older generations because she's playing as.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: Septigitarian, specifically older women.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: Older women. Yeah, so that's really cool. It looks fun.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: Kathy Bates is smoking hot in it, Like, she looks
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: real good.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: She looks really good, and she I mean, she's probably
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: one of the best actors currently working, Like she's way
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: up there. The work she does is always stellar, and
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: she looks like she is nailing this character. And I
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: wasn't sure about this when I first heard about a
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: Mattlock reboot and that Kathy Bates was going to take
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: the lead, But so far, based on this trailer, I
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: feel like, I feel like this could be a really
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: fun and entertaining show. Not like fun as in like
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: we fun all the way, Like, I think it could
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: be really compelling television. And and I like the choice
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: they've made where it's clearly not happening in the same
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: universe as the original TV series because that's just a show.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I like it too. I also feel like
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: playing now mind you this It might be because I've
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: watched more of one than the other, but I feel
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: like playing the bumbling kind of a character to put
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: people at ease so you can learn stuff is more
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: of a Colombo thing.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, totally.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean I watched a lot more Colombo
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: and then Monk.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, of course Monk isn't doing it on purpose though, right, because.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: Monk, and he's also not bumbling, he's.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: Just incredibly awful. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I think
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: it's a good trailer. It's it's arguably a little outside
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: the wheelhouse for LLNC, But you know, we we love
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: a lot of pop culture stuff, and Mattlock is one
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: of those things where I think even people who have
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: never seen an episode ever in their lives have at
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: least heard the title Mattlock, like it is one of
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: those cultural touchstone type products, like kind of like Mash, right,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: like Mash. I mean, especially for my generation, Mash was
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: a huge deal. I don't know that many people would
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: know what you were referring to today, but for a
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: very long time, Mash was an incredibly relevant cultural touchstone.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: And I feel like Mattlock was at the forefront of
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: all of all of like the investigative type of TV
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: shows we've had, including Diagnosis, Murder and Murder, she wrote,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: And you know, some of the newer stuff like Castle
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: or Bones or whatnot, So some of those definitely are
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: a little bit more geekier than others.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, yeah, So it's kind of like one of
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: those uh, foundational series that ended up inspiring countless others.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so looking forward to it. I don't have peacock.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll have.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: To get some peacock Oh, you don't have Peacock. You
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: can't watch you can't watch Night Court.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: Oh No, I had Peacock for a while and then
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: I dropped it so I could watch Star Trek on Paramount.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have Paramount. I do still have Peacock, though,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: so partly because like, I'm an Exfinity customer and the
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: automatically comes with it, and that makes it easy. It does,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: except I think I'm paying for it on extra anyway,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: So I need to really sort that out. I need
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: to get like one of those apps that helps me
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: figure out where I'm paying too much and to stop
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: all that nonsense.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, we can wrap this episode up.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: That was our last story, so that you can get
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: to that.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's wrap it up. Let's wrap it up.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: Let's wrap it up. I'm sorry, I need more coffee anyhow. Yes,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: thank you guys for listening. This has been wonderful, Jonathan.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: If people want to reach out to us to talk
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: about any of the things we've talked about, or how
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: they're prepping for Spoopy season or anything like that, how
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: do they do that?
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: So you're going to need to get a round table
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: discussion and you're going to need to invite Carrie Anne
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: Moss and Deborah and Waller together to have a lively
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: conversation about acting and role playing. You're going to need
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: to actually have like an impromptu D and D session,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: But don't worry, Debra's got your back, and you're going
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: to have a discussion about the roles that women have
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: traditionally been offered, how that's changing, how women are making
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: use of the medium to tackle really tough social issues
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: such as the perception and treatment of women through different
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: stages of their lives, from the point where they're young
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: and impressionable, and how the system can take advantage of
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: that to when they are of a more mature age
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: and the system seems to completely forget that they exist.
• 1:28:25
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• 1:28:29
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• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: by the insight that's being shared, and then ultimately you're
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: kind of think, oh, yeah, I wanted to ask Jonathan
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: about that Peter Pan horror movie thing. And that's when
• 1:28:44
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• 1:28:47
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