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- 0:01Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Saturday, October twenty eighth. I'm your
- 0:03host, Tom Moore. The Wisconsin game is today, the game against Michigan
- 0:08in twenty eight days. For once, we're actually be talking about the Wisconsin
- 0:13game and not anything to do with Michigan. It was not a ton of
- 0:16news on Friday on that front, so we're gonna actually talk a little Ohio
- 0:20State football. We're doing that with our buddy Kevin Noon. If you're wondering,
- 0:23why are these guys just sitting on a couch in a weirdly lit room,
- 0:27we are on the road. We are actually in Wisconsin right now,
- 0:30ready to cover that game on Saturday night. We were up in Madison just
- 0:35a little bit ago. Just headed back to our hotel after getting a chance
- 0:38to Number one make sure yes, the buck Eyes are in fact in Wisconsin
- 0:42as well as we are as well. Got a chance also to talk to
- 0:45Ryan Day a little bit, and it sounds like there is good news on
- 0:49the injury front for Trevan Henderson, a Mecica Abuca, and Denzelberg. Seeing
- 0:54all of them get off the bus is good news. It doesn't necessarily mean
- 0:59we're going to see all of them potentially in the game, but I think
- 1:02they're all far enough along because remember, you can only travel so many players,
- 1:07and it is Big ten football in you are a couple months into the
- 1:10season at this point and guys are banged up, and you don't want to
- 1:14bring somebody on the trip just for the hell of it. Hey, why
- 1:18don't you just come aboard hang out. You want everybody you bring you have
- 1:23to be ready largely to play them. So I think it is good news
- 1:26as Ohio State gets ready to take on a badger team at Camp Randall,
- 1:30a place where strange things do happen from time to time. Yeah, this
- 1:34is another one of those Big Ten West venues where you have seen Ohio State
- 1:38lose every once in a while, but they they've not lost Wisconsin in a
- 1:44hot minute in twenty ten. The last time they lost, and that was
- 1:48a number one Ohio State team coming up here and give up an opening kickoff
- 1:52return for a touchdown. They were down fourteen to nothing like five minutes under
- 1:56that game. Yeah, so that was a weird one Saturday night. It
- 2:00feels like it would probably take something a little weird for Wisconsin to beat Ohio
- 2:06State. Buckets favored by what two touchdowns given what I saw on Friday afternoon.
- 2:14Yeah, so a little bit over two touchdown favorites. This is not
- 2:19a vintage Wisconsin team, and that's true in a couple different ways. Number
- 2:22One, this is not a team that's gonna go twelve and one and you
- 2:24know, go go to the Rose Bowl or something like that. They've already
- 2:28got a couple losses. It also is going to if you if you have
- 2:31not watched Wisconsin this year, this is a very different offense. This is
- 2:37no longer the run the two and forty pounds running back between the tackles forty
- 2:43times and then maybe throw it fifteen or eighteen times. This is a It's
- 2:46not a great Wisconsin offense, but it's a different Wisconsin offense. And the
- 2:52thing is is that I think Luke Fickle is having to make the adjustment as
- 2:57he tries to modernize what it is that Wisconson does. But he's trying to
- 3:00modernize it with the weapons that Paul christ had. And then when quarterback Tanner
- 3:07Mordecai was hurt broke in hand out for the year, they have to bring
- 3:10in Brandon Locke, who had his first career start against Illinois led a comeback
- 3:15win where he was largely in effective. Early in the game, Jerison Newton,
- 3:20the talented defensive end for Illinois, got tossed for targeting and was able
- 3:23to heat up at that point. It's still going to be a team that
- 3:29is going to run the ball with Braylan Allen. But even talking about the
- 3:32running game, remember Wisconsin lost chessman Lucy early in the year, so there
- 3:38is not much depth behind him at this point. The Malusi was the number
- 3:43two rusher, Tanner Mordecai was the number three rusher, so now they're down
- 3:46even further. So we don't see a lot of games where back is getting
- 3:51thirty plus carries. Could we see that in this case, I don't know.
- 3:54I guess it depends on how the game goes. I guess it depends
- 3:57on what type of success that Allen has against the Buckeye's Ohio State faced.
- 4:00Allen last year really picked up most of his yardage late in the game on
- 4:04a bad angle by an Ohio State safety that sprung him for a huge gain.
- 4:10And oh well, I had you know, eighty yards in the game,
- 4:13Well, you had most of them, and you know, at that
- 4:15one point. So I don't know what we're gonna make out of it,
- 4:17but yeah, to your point, it is an offense that is very much
- 4:20in transition. This isn't what you should should expect next year or the year
- 4:26after, but you're kind of in that situation where you have one foot in
- 4:30the pool and one foot not in the pool. Yeah, it's a little
- 4:32like the teams that are going, you know, into the air raid the
- 4:36first year that Mike Leach got to Washington State and it was like, well,
- 4:41we don't have the personnel to run this yet, and you sort of
- 4:44have that weird like, well, we're gonna run it anyway, and it's
- 4:46just gonna look like crap. And that's just kind of how it is.
- 4:49This is a talented enough team that it doesn't look like crap, and they're
- 4:53five and two, so it's okay, but it's not. It's not what
- 4:56it's ultimately going to be. And one of the reasons is they want to
- 5:00throw the ball. Phil long Ago, the offensive coordinator, wants to throw
- 5:01the ball. He has run up tempo air raid style. That's what he
- 5:05ran at North Carolina. He does not have Drake May on this team.
- 5:10He doesn't even have the North Carolina talented. He doesn't even have market members.
- 5:14Yeah, he doesn't even have Mark May. He doesn't necessarily have the
- 5:16North Carolina level receivers even this year. This is this is a little bit
- 5:23when you look at this team, the offensive lines solid good, the quarterback
- 5:29is young, the running backs are you know, running back at least good.
- 5:35The wide receivers are maybe just kind of okay. This is all sounding
- 5:42very much like a team that Ohio State just played last weekend, right exactly.
- 5:46There are some comparisons when you look at what the construction of the offensive
- 5:50side of the ball looks like with Penn State. Now, I think much
- 5:55higher Duller than I do Brydon Locke. I think that Braylen Allen as a
- 6:01as a running back is much more established than Caitron Allen or Nick Singleton or
- 6:08I think that maybe I would give a little bit of an edge or to
- 6:13Penn State's receivers. Really right now, the most productive of all the receivers
- 6:17for Wisconsin is a Cincinnati transfer that came over with Luke in Will Pauling.
- 6:25They do have and I knew the name was going to Jamry Dkay. They
- 6:30saw Jimry Dkay who has not necessarily had a big year this point, so
- 6:35it'll be interesting. And I think one spot too of where we got used
- 6:40to seeing out of older Wisconsin teams is they're always going to have a tight
- 6:43end. I think Penn State had a better tight end with forty four than
- 6:46what I've seen out of Wisconsin so far this year. Looking at Wisconsin's offense,
- 6:53it feels like, I think all of us predicted Wisconsin to score like
- 6:58thirteen or fourteen, almost like we ended up independently all on almost exactly the
- 7:03same number. And it feels like if Wisconsin's going to get this into the
- 7:09low twenties, mid twenties, even of the twenty eight, that probably involves
- 7:15turnovers, forcing turnovers from Ohio State and you get a scoop and score,
- 7:19you get a pick six, you just get it. You hand your offense
- 7:23a you know, seventeen yard drive, whatever it is. It feels like
- 7:29if Wisconsin's going to get into the twenties, the defense is probably going to
- 7:33have to play a pretty direct role in that. Yeah, I'm really not
- 7:38sure how Wisconsin gets into the twenties without some help from Ohio State. Obviously,
- 7:43special teams can can play a role there. I mean, we just
- 7:46talked about twenty ten and what happened in that game. But this is not
- 7:50an explosive Wisconsin offense, certainly not in terms of going against Ohio State's defense.
- 7:58And you can look at some numbers and say, well, you know,
- 8:01you look at the rankings, and Wisconsin's done this and this. Wisconsin
- 8:05plays on the lesser half of the Big Ten. Yes, everybody does have
- 8:11their three crossover games, but we're not to that point of the season.
- 8:15Obviously, Wisconsin played Washington State, which I think was a little bit of
- 8:18a step up in competition compared to certainly what it's facing in the West right
- 8:22now. But I think that this is going to be a major increase in
- 8:28terms of level of competition for Wisconsin than what it has been used to playing.
- 8:33So if both these teams kind of play straight up, and let's just
- 8:37even sit there and say they both play B games, it's probably not going
- 8:41to be close. I think that Wisconsin needs to play a much higher game
- 8:45and hope that Ohio State is a little flat and maybe spending a little much
- 8:48too much time paying attention to what's happening in ann Arbor. Yeah, and
- 8:52I think that's a reasonable question about the black Eyes coming off the big win
- 8:58over Penn State. What has the focus been on this week inside the walls
- 9:03of what you know? Ryan A got off the bus in in Arbor or
- 9:05sorry in Madison, say I'm doing it too, got off the bus in
- 9:09Madison and said, you know, a good week of practice and all that.
- 9:13We have seen the post Penn State hangover before, and I know that
- 9:20we have all spent a lot more time thinking about the Michigan scandal this week
- 9:24and talking about the Mission scandal this week than we have about the Wisconsin Badgers.
- 9:30And we have seen the post Penn State road trip out to a big
- 9:33ten West school not go great for Ohio State in the past. How big
- 9:37of a concern is the focus for you? I think it's always a concern
- 9:41when you're dealing with eighteen to twenty two year olds. I mean, obviously
- 9:45you have like a forty eight year old and Jesse Murco, but you know,
- 9:48you're dealing with a lot of kids at this point, and it's maybe
- 9:52not that they're necessarily going out and searching for it, but their family,
- 9:56their friends, everybody else is looking about it's like, can you believe what's
- 10:01going on up there in a situation that we have a lot more speculation than
- 10:05we have facts known at this point. But it does look like not to
- 10:09turn this into a Michigan talk show, but it does look pretty ugly about
- 10:13what might go down up there. So there is going to be that concern.
- 10:16I think the fact that Ohio State never really was challenged by Penn State.
- 10:24This isn't going to be a situation of where Ohio State had to come
- 10:26back and beat Penn State on an exciting fourth quarter drive or anything like that
- 10:31and you're all up, up, up and up. I think that they
- 10:35were able to go about their business win the game, and we'll learn a
- 10:39lot basically of how they come out. And again, this is a team
- 10:43that has started pretty slow in almost all of its games, so they're not
- 10:46going to watch it be like ceec I told you they came out by crap
- 10:50because they were not focused. But if it prolongs and I heard you and
- 10:54Tony talk about it in another show, I don't know if it's six'
- 10:58three at halftime or whatever, then you know, okay, the focus wasn't
- 11:01where it needed to be. This feels like a game where O house it
- 11:05can probably out talent Wisconsin to a certain degree. And it really to me
- 11:09is about don't make the big mistake. Don't have the strip sack that goes
- 11:16back for six points, don't throw the pick six when you're in the red
- 11:20zone. Make sure you're getting points, and make sure you're getting sevens more
- 11:22than threes. You can kick field goals, because I don't you know,
- 11:26this is not a Wisconsin team that's gonna win a shootout. You can kick
- 11:30field goals, but you got to convert some sevens. To you just you
- 11:33don't want a bunch of empty possessions. You don't want to missed field goals.
- 11:37You don't want a bunch of a bunch of missed fourth downs in the
- 11:39red zone. If you don't make the big mistake, if you don't have
- 11:43multiple empty red zone possessions, if you don't have multiple turnovers or a turnover
- 11:48that goes back for a score, I don't know that I see a real
- 11:52plausible path. You know, you don't make the big mistake on special teams.
- 11:56I guess is the other thing without one of those. I don't know
- 11:58that your real plausible path to Wisconsin winning this game unless Ohio State really comes
- 12:05out and it's just just missing even the basic throws, even the basic runs.
- 12:11Illinois was up a couple of scores on Wisconsin and fell apart. Ohio
- 12:15States certainly can't do that. And that game, I believe it was in
- 12:18Champagne. This game is obviously in Madison. You can't let the fans hang
- 12:24around and hang around and hang around and jump around at the start of the
- 12:26fourth quarter is meaningful because it is a tide game, or Wisconsin's only down
- 12:33a possession or something, or even worse scenario, Wisconsin is up, because
- 12:39at that point then everybody starts to press and that's where upsets happen. At
- 12:43that point. You need to be able to impose your will. You need
- 12:46to be able to go out and play your brand of football, play your
- 12:50style of football, have the success and be able to kind of accelerate in.
- 12:54It's a lot better as the road team to be the ones doing the
- 12:58jumping around at the start the fourth quarter as opposed to the Badgers doing it
- 13:01saying that you know we we since blood in the water. Yeah, you
- 13:07have seen the Ohio State teams doing the jump around and you know, I
- 13:11remember Malcolm Jenkins looking like he was doing like an Irish jig on the sideline.
- 13:15If you're up two touchdowns, like that's a real fun like, hey,
- 13:18what a fun whimsical college football thing. If Wisconsin's up, or it's
- 13:22a tie game and it's it is squeaky bum time, as they say in
- 13:26British soccer, then the students are going nuts and you're not having so much
- 13:31fun on your sideline. So you know, if you know, if the
- 13:33Buckeyes get off to a solid start and a nice early lad it feels like
- 13:37this could be a nice, easy early night. If it drags on,
- 13:41you could get a little a little more dramatic. I'm sure our High State
- 13:45fans are not are hoping nothing spooky happens Saturday night in Madison. Halloween weekend
- 13:50should be a fun atmosphere. I'm looking forward to I'm looking forward to it.
- 13:54It should be a loud, loud, raucous atmosphere. Prime time they
- 14:00have we were in Madison, it seems like a head of bar or two
- 14:03in town. So fans always next to a bike shop, Yeah, always
- 14:07next to a bike shop for some reason. But yeah, they should be
- 14:09a should be a loud ROCKUS atmosphere. The fans should be very into it
- 14:13for whatever reason, football related or not. Kick off seven thirty three pm
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- 14:46availability report, the injury report coming to you about two hours before kick give
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- 14:58all for joining youself a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow