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Highlights for Curtis and Larry · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Oh, Larry, later on, you got to tell us about
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  Speaker 1: your visit to the concert in Philadelphia with Ed Sheeran.
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  Speaker 1: Natalie's going to tell us she was going to go
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  Speaker 1: to that restaurant where they had the crash on the
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  Speaker 1: Jersey Shore. And I'll tell you about the San Gennaro
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  Speaker 1: Festival as I went back to back. But last night,
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  Speaker 1: 60 Minutes was really dedicated to, I guess, the response
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  Speaker 1: of Patrick Clancy. to all the rumors, the innuendos, the
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  Speaker 1: negative social postings that have been filed against him as
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  Speaker 1: he's basically trying to set the record straight in terms
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  Speaker 1: of what he was doing and how he was trying
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  Speaker 1: to help his wife, Lindsay Clancy, and also the responses
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  Speaker 1: of his new wife, who he met in New York
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  Speaker 1: City when he moved here. She's an infertility specialist. They're
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  Speaker 1: both joggers. They met in Central Park. And boy, it
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  Speaker 1: was quite a sit down. Larry, what did you make
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  Speaker 1: of it?
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  Speaker 2: The thing I made of it was the and I
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  Speaker 2: think what the most important thing that we learned there
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  Speaker 2: was that he didn't think she was guilty. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that was stunning because remember, the prosecution called him and
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  Speaker 2: everybody thought he was a weak witness. Now we know
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  Speaker 2: why he said she would never have killed those three kids.
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  Speaker 2: It was the psychosis. She was mentally ill. That's what
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  Speaker 2: caused it. which is what the prevailing feeling was in
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  Speaker 2: the jury room. So it was a little bit stunning
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  Speaker 2: that this prosecution witness was now saying, no, there's no
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  Speaker 2: way she's in a right mind and killed her kids.
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  Speaker 2: We should go through this interview because for the first time,
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  Speaker 2: we're getting some soundbites. So I haven't been able to
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  Speaker 2: preview these, but take a listen and we can react
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  Speaker 2: as we hear.
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  Speaker 3: I saw headlines that said, you know, killer mom and
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  Speaker 3: baby murderer, monster. And none of them were accurate. I
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  Speaker 3: believe that it was her mental illness that caused that.
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  Speaker 2: So there's the most important sound bite. That was the
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  Speaker 2: most important one.
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  Speaker 1: You are correct, because that seemed to be the sentiment
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  Speaker 1: of the jury. Right.
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  Speaker 2: We did hear from the holdout juror again, and he
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  Speaker 2: was fascinating, too. Let's talk about him in a second,
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  Speaker 2: and let's get through the rest of this sound.
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  Speaker 3: And I think when it comes to forgiveness, I also
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  Speaker 3: felt that if I didn't get there, I would be
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  Speaker 3: eaten up inside her.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he forgave her. That's what that was from.
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  Speaker 2: That was the question that was asked. How can you
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  Speaker 2: forgive her for that? And he said he had to.
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  Speaker 2: For himself and for her and for the memory of
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  Speaker 2: the children, he had to forgive her.
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  Speaker 3: I asked her if she remembered it. And what did
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  Speaker 3: she say? She said it was like a dream. And
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  Speaker 3: she remembered it much in the way you would remember
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  Speaker 3: a dream after waking up.
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  Speaker 2: So that answer is yes. She does remember it. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember that coming out of the trial. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the fact that she knows what she did.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I thought she blanked it all out. That's what was
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  Speaker 2: reported earlier, that she blanked it all out. There was
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  Speaker 2: some real revelations out of this interview last night.
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  Speaker 3: I think I did the best I could with what
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  Speaker 3: I had at the time. And I live with the outcome.
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  Speaker 3: I live with it every day.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he was sent away. I'm not sure what he's
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  Speaker 2: talking about. I guess no matter what, if you're the dad,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to beat yourself up. What could I have done?
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  Speaker 2: He came off really good in this interview, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, much better than when he was the lead off
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  Speaker 1: witness for the prosecution in Plymouth and talking about his wife.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he was, even though he had to be
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  Speaker 1: on the witness stand, they should not have started out
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  Speaker 1: with him because I think He was not the strongest
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  Speaker 1: witness at all.
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  Speaker 2: Now we know why. He was tormented. So he never
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  Speaker 2: thought she killed those children in their right mind. And
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  Speaker 2: that went against what the prosecution was trying to get.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so grateful for those four days that I had
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  Speaker 3: with him. And I'm so grateful he hung on.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to start this again because it's
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  Speaker 2: important to tell you what he's talking about. He's talking
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  Speaker 2: about the one child that survived.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the baby Kaylin.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And he's talking about the baby that survived and
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  Speaker 2: the fact that she hung on for four days before
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  Speaker 2: she died.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so grateful for those four days that I had
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  Speaker 3: with him. And I'm so grateful he hung on. Did
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  Speaker 3: you talk to him in those four days?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Can you tell me anything you said? I said, I'm
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  Speaker 3: so sorry. I'm so sorry. And I got to hold him.
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  Speaker 3: I got to lay down next to him. And he
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  Speaker 3: died in my arms.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's eight-month-old Kalen that he's talking about. How unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: That was the most compelling part, I think, of the interview.
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  Speaker 1: Because he described the four days that the baby was
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  Speaker 1: holding on. And they enabled him to hold the baby,
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  Speaker 1: to go into the hospital, to lay down with the baby.
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  Speaker 1: And then to have your own child die in your arms,
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  Speaker 1: that just compounded it. And you could just feel the
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  Speaker 1: pain even now in his voice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing. Throughout the interview, you get the feeling
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  Speaker 2: that he blames himself, that he doesn't blame her, that
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  Speaker 2: he blames himself for not being there for her, for
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  Speaker 2: not being there for her children, for being away, for
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  Speaker 2: falling for this plot, which is the fact that she
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  Speaker 2: remembers what happened and the fact that she plotted it out.
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  Speaker 2: leads me to believe she's still guilty of murder.
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  Speaker 3: I think every parent can agree you have different relationships
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  Speaker 3: with your kids, but they're all your kids. And I
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  Speaker 3: can't wait to tell them about their brothers and sister.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I've found that a little odd. No, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, what he's saying is when they
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  Speaker 2: get of a certain age, I would do the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: I think any parent would do the same thing. When
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  Speaker 2: they get of a certain age, he wants to be
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  Speaker 2: able to tell them. They're going to find out anyway.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Oh, there's no doubt. So
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  Speaker 2: he wants to say to them, you had wonderful brothers
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  Speaker 2: and sisters. They were just wonderful. And so I just
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  Speaker 2: want to let you know about them and tell you
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  Speaker 2: about them. He may not have phrased that perfectly, but
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  Speaker 2: I understand the sentiment completely, and I would feel exactly
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  Speaker 2: the same way in his position.
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  Speaker 1: Well, part of the reason that he chose to do
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  Speaker 1: this along with his new wife, Rachel, is was to
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  Speaker 1: deal with what was first brought to our attention by
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  Speaker 1: our own Natalie Migliore. I was unaware of it. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you were, Larry, but the escalating campaign
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  Speaker 1: of conspiracy theories, misinformation about possibly him being involved. Remember,
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  Speaker 1: I was shocked. Natalie was telling us, oh, yeah, this
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  Speaker 1: is being discussed on a regular basis. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: people are doubting Thomas's about him being, you know, basically
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  Speaker 1: out of the circle of what transpired. Many people I
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  Speaker 1: went online and actually looked at some of these comments
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  Speaker 1: after Natalie had mentioned to us, and she was right.
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  Speaker 1: They were going to indict him as the person responsible.
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  Speaker 1: So I think part of the reason that the couple
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  Speaker 1: decided to do that was to try to address the
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  Speaker 1: escalating campaign that hasn't stopped. Remember, the next court date
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  Speaker 1: is September 29th. That's when the DA for the county
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  Speaker 1: there has to determine, are we going to go back
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  Speaker 1: to trial, go for a plea? Who knows what they're
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  Speaker 1: going to discuss? but apparently hasn't slowed down at all.
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  Speaker 2: No, they're going to go for a retrial. The prosecutor's
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  Speaker 2: office has kind of come out and said, there's no
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  Speaker 2: way we're going to settle unless we get exactly what
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  Speaker 2: we want or near to what we want. And we're
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  Speaker 2: so far apart right now, that's not going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: So I believe 99% that there is going to be
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  Speaker 2: a retrial at this point. But you're exactly right about
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  Speaker 2: Patrick Clancy.
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  Speaker 1: It is bizarre.
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  Speaker 2: But when you think about it, It makes some sense
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  Speaker 2: because everything is screwed up today. Everything happens on social media.
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  Speaker 2: People take it as legitimate news. So when they read
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  Speaker 2: something on social media, and I've seen this myself a
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  Speaker 2: million times, how I've been at things, I've been at stories,
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  Speaker 2: and you read about it online, and it's something completely different.
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  Speaker 2: It's somebody skewing exactly what happened to fit what they
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  Speaker 2: believe should have happened or what they believe was true. So, please,
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  Speaker 2: whatever you do, don't take social media, unless it comes
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  Speaker 2: from a legitimate source, like a news source, as fact.
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  Speaker 2: Because you're right, that grew around the country. People around
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  Speaker 2: the country thought he was involved, he made it happen,
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  Speaker 2: he forced her to do it, because they already had
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  Speaker 2: their own bias when it came to fathers and mothers
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  Speaker 2: and the case.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this, if I'm the defense attorney,
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  Speaker 1: if in fact it does go back to trial, I
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  Speaker 1: want him on the stand saying exactly what he said
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  Speaker 1: in the 60 Minutes interview, and he won't be able
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  Speaker 1: to maneuver away from that. I'll say, well, didn't you
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  Speaker 1: say on the 60 Minutes interview?
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  Speaker 2: Well, they can play it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: They can play it and say, they don't even have
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  Speaker 2: to put him on the stand at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Now, let me do a pivot and shift to your guy,
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  Speaker 1: the no-doubts guy. The holdout juror, there's been a fundraising
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  Speaker 1: campaign for him. He had to flee Massachusetts. Yes. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if he took Governor DeSantis up on his
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  Speaker 1: offer of sanctuary. Remember, DeSantis said, I know you may
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  Speaker 1: want to leave Massachusetts. You're welcome in Florida. They raised $ 350, 000.
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  Speaker 1: His attorney has posted a picture of him, the Haitian-American juror,
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  Speaker 1: smiling with his new baby girl. He's been under death threats, doxing, harassment.
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  Speaker 1: So he's using the money to pay for security, legal fees,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously lost work. Again, he stated, I'm a black Republican.
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  Speaker 1: I support Trump. And that jury had a leftist bent
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  Speaker 1: from day one. So they call that jury nullification. I
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  Speaker 1: went through a case myself where the jury ruled on
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  Speaker 1: my side. And you knew from day one, they already
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  Speaker 1: made their decision. They weren't even going to listen to anything.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what you call jury nullification. Remember, the jurors
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  Speaker 1: kept saying he wasn't listening. He kept drifting off. He
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  Speaker 1: would be scribbling on a pad. Well, he says, every
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  Speaker 1: time I tried to talk... They cut me off. Nobody
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  Speaker 1: would listen to what I wanted to say. They'd ask
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  Speaker 1: me a question, I'd start to answer, and then they'd
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  Speaker 1: cut me off. I would say to him, you're no
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  Speaker 1: Henry Fonda. You didn't convert the other 11, remember? What
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  Speaker 1: was the name of that great movie? 11 Angry Men
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  Speaker 1: or something like that?
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  Speaker 2: No, 12 Angry Men.
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  Speaker 1: And it was Henry Fonda, the lone holdout, who convinced
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  Speaker 1: the other 11. I guess... He wasn't able to do that.
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  Speaker 2: They wouldn't even let him talk. Imagine if Henry Fonda,
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  Speaker 2: every time he talked, they jumped in. Hey, when we
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  Speaker 2: Well, as Curtis just mentioned a second ago, I was
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  Speaker 2: at the Ed Sheeran concert at Lincoln Financial Field in Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 2: And before I get to talking about what happened in
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  Speaker 2: the concert, let me tell you something I learned just
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  Speaker 2: walking in the front door, actually just driving up to
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  Speaker 2: the stadium, that the media is worse than I thought.
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  Speaker 2: The media just lies. For some political advantage. It's what
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  Speaker 2: they hope to be true and not what they know
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  Speaker 2: to be true. And let me tell you how I
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  Speaker 2: knew that. That as I'm driving up, I heard, we
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  Speaker 2: got there earlier because we heard there was going to
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  Speaker 2: be all these protesters, right? Didn't the media say that?
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  Speaker 2: Expect hundreds, maybe thousands of protesters outside. I saw eight.
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  Speaker 3: Eight!
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  Speaker 1: Eight!
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  Speaker 2: Now, apparently a little bit earlier, just to be clear
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  Speaker 2: and just to be honest and do not what the
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  Speaker 2: media does, apparently a little bit earlier, there were as
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  Speaker 2: many as 30. But I guess when they looked around
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  Speaker 2: and they saw that it wasn't a big showing, most
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  Speaker 2: of them went home. So it was just about eight
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  Speaker 2: crazies that were out there. And I know it was
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  Speaker 2: eight because I was stopped in traffic and I counted them.
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  Speaker 2: So that didn't happen. Then I get inside and I'm
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  Speaker 2: expected to find almost an empty stadium. Remember? They were saying,
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  Speaker 2: there's no way this is going to be sold out.
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  Speaker 2: There's so much blowback against Ed Sheeran that it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be almost empty. Be careful. It was sold out.
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  Speaker 2: It was absolutely sold out. And so, reporting on this
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  Speaker 2: story is suspect from the very beginning. But you know
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  Speaker 2: the story by now that Macklemore, a washed-up rapper who's
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  Speaker 2: trying to make a comeback, hasn't had a hit in
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  Speaker 2: a decade. Even then, he had one, maybe two, thrift shop,
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  Speaker 2: and that was probably it. He was trying to make
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  Speaker 2: a comeback. Ed Sheeran was kind enough to put him
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  Speaker 2: on his bill as the opening act, and he makes
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  Speaker 2: a political statement against Israel and pro-Palestine, which then started
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  Speaker 2: off a torment for or a torrent of activity after that,
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  Speaker 2: where the promoter was dropping Macklemore, Robert Kraft said he
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  Speaker 2: couldn't perform in Boston, other owners of venues said they
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  Speaker 2: can't have Macklemore, and then people quit on him. After that,
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  Speaker 2: Ed Sheeran, all the other opening acts, even his band
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  Speaker 2: left him. His band left him. But he still performed
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  Speaker 2: in Philadelphia with no band and no opening act. But
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  Speaker 2: he did have an opening statement.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to disappoint fans, and I've never wanted
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  Speaker 4: to be an activist musician, but this has put me
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  Speaker 4: in the middle of an important and passionate argument about
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  Speaker 4: freedom of speech and the most complex political issue on
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  Speaker 4: the planet.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, if you just heard there, there was
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  Speaker 2: silence when he read this statement. So there was almost
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  Speaker 2: 100,000 people and there was silence.
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  Speaker 4: I have tried in my career not to be a
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  Speaker 4: political commentator of any kind because I want my music
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  Speaker 4: and shows to be about unity, not division, about humanity,
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  Speaker 4: not politics.
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  Speaker 2: And then he made the comment that made news after that.
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  Speaker 4: What happened in Israel and at the Nova Music Festival
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  Speaker 4: on October 7th was horrific and compounded centuries of Jewish pain.
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  Speaker 4: What is happening in Gaza is catastrophic and unjustifiable and disproportionate.
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  Speaker 4: My heart has been broken by the scale of devastation
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  Speaker 4: and loss of civilians' lives, of children's lives.
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  Speaker 2: But then he said it's important no matter what because
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  Speaker 2: he owed it to his fans for the tour to
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  Speaker 2: go on.
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  Speaker 4: My concerts have always been a safe space for everyone
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  Speaker 4: and that matters hugely to me. Honoring my commitment to
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  Speaker 4: my fans is also completely central to who I am.
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  Speaker 4: And that is why I'm here tonight on my own
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  Speaker 4: and continuing my current tour.
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  Speaker 2: And then he got a standing ovation at the end
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  Speaker 2: of that because people were appreciative that they weren't going
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  Speaker 2: to hear. He said, that's it. That's no more politics.
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  Speaker 2: I made my statement. There's no more politics. And then
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  Speaker 2: he said, but I wasn't going to let you down.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to show up tonight. And he got
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  Speaker 2: a standing ovation. And I will tell you, he said
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  Speaker 2: at the very end that this is the best show
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  Speaker 2: I've ever done. Curtis, he didn't have a band with him.
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  Speaker 2: So he had to play every instrument recorded. And he
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  Speaker 2: did it live. So he would play backup guitar, record it.
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  Speaker 2: Then he'd put the guitar down. He'd go sing backup vocals.
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  Speaker 2: And you saw this all play out as he's doing it.
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  Speaker 1: As if he were in the studio.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then he sang the song and he's hitting
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  Speaker 2: foot pedals for the drums, for the backup guitar. The
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  Speaker 2: whole time he's singing. It was amazing. It was an amazing.
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  Speaker 2: This is one of the most talented people I have
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  Speaker 2: ever seen in my life.
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  Speaker 1: Stadium. I could see you do that in a club, right?
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  Speaker 1: but a stadium with all the acoustics and all that
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  Speaker 1: is absolutely phenomenal.
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  Speaker 2: And the energy he has, he was running around the stage.
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  Speaker 2: He did a couple of rap songs, which I didn't
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  Speaker 2: like that much, but he was performing and he was
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  Speaker 2: going crazy. You could see he was pouring himself out,
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  Speaker 2: but at the whole time he's doing all the music.
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  Speaker 2: Now he did have a band show up for a
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  Speaker 2: few songs, friends of his that said, look, what do
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  Speaker 2: you need? Anything you need, just tell us. And they
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  Speaker 2: flew out from L.A., And he said, I wasn't going
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  Speaker 2: to ask them to do the whole concert because they
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  Speaker 2: had three days to learn my songs. He said, so
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  Speaker 2: let's do three or four songs with them. So they
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  Speaker 2: played with them.
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  Speaker 1: So everybody was happy by the time the concert was
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  Speaker 1: wrapped up.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody left getting better than they expected. Well, let me
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  Speaker 2: tell you one thing that happened. Another thing that happened
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  Speaker 2: that hasn't got as much play. And I tried to,
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  Speaker 2: I recorded it and I tried to pull sound of it,
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  Speaker 2: but it doesn't hear that, doesn't sound that well. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm just going to describe it. So at one point
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  Speaker 2: near the end of the concert, he's exhausted now. You
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: can see that. And he sits down and everybody applauds
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: as he's sitting down. And he said, look, I really
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: didn't know what was going to happen tonight. And he said,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: when I heard the news, I thought that there might
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: be a terrorist attack. I thought there was going to
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: be hundreds of protesters outside. And he said, I even
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: had a walkway to go through the middle of the
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: crowd and And I said, no, let's not do that
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: because I didn't know how you were going to react.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I didn't know if somebody was going to throw something
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: at me or tackle me or attack me on the walkway.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: So I said, get rid of that. And I'm not
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: doing that. He said, but the love you've showed me
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: tonight gives me a lot of hope about this country
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: and about the world. And he goes, I can't tell
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: you how much I appreciate you and the love you
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: showed me tonight. And the place went crazy. They stood up.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: They applauded. He broke down in tears.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Well, I can't tell you how much we appreciate that
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: you went to the concert so you could report to
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: us what actually took place in the event as opposed
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: to all these other third party or fourth party sort
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: of responses. The one thing that he did make his
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: political statement, I think it reflects what most Americans think.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: He said October 7th was horrific. So he dealt with
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: that right away. But then he said what's going on
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: in Gaza is a catastrophe, unjustifiable, and it's disproportionate to
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: what had originally happened on October 7th, horrific, when Hamas
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: invaded Israel and slaughtered and raped and destroyed and then
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: took hostages. I thought that was very well said. I
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: think it's reflected in polling of Americans now who are
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: very down on Israel and Bibi Netanyahu. will see that
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: this week when he comes in for the U.N. General
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Assembly speech on Thursday. So he felt he had to
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: say something. And I think what he said was a
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: balanced response, which really is a reflection what I think
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of Americans are thinking.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: He is. Let's talk about Macklemore for a second. That scum.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I really hate the man, I do, because I think
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: he made it very difficult, and I saw how difficult
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: it was for Ed Sheeran when he broke down in tears,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: that nothing like this has happened to him. Good friends,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: he said during the concert, good friends turned on me. And,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: you know, people I called to say help, they weren't
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: going to help. And he said, my whole band left me.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: But you know what? That band may not work again
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: because he now found out he can do this all
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: by himself. And he said at one point, this is
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: the best concert I've ever done in my life. But Macklemore,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: there's a lot more to say about him because Macklemore
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: has a history of anti-Semitic stuff, not just anti-Israel, anti-Semitic stuff.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: And maybe the most famous was in 2014. This ruined
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: his career, by the way, when he walked on a
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: stage in Seattle wearing a dark wig, a fake beard,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: and a prominent prosthetic hook nose. And everybody said at
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: the time, oh, he's dressing up like a Hasidic Jew.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: He's dressing up like a Jew. He's making fun of
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Jews because he's made fun of them in the past.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: He denied that, but the backlash on that really ended
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: his faltering career. So this isn't the first time he's
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: done something like this. And anybody that supports this scum
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: now should be ashamed of themselves.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, he's a martyr now. He's going to
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: get dates. He's going to make a lot of money.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: And the one who didn't expect the blowback is Kraft
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: and his son. Because now everything that we already knew
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: was negative about Bob Kraft, and there's a lot, has
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: just poured forth. And they've associated him. We hadn't heard
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the name Epstein in a long time, right? We haven't
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: heard anything about the Epstein files. Well, Kraft happens to
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: appear in the Epstein files a few times. He's not
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: a prominent friend of Epstein, you know, like Woody Allen
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: and Bill Gates. But now that's come forward. And then
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: negative things about his son who helps him in running
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the New England Patriots and Gillette Stadium. By the way,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I think Ed Sheeran will be at the Gillette Stadium,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I think, to 27th and 28th. So.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: The Krabs are catching a lot of blowback. I don't
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: think he ever fathomed how much stuff would come back
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: up and be aimed at him.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I don't believe anything anymore. After going to that concert,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I don't believe anything anymore. I don't believe he's getting
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: the blowback that they claim he's getting. I don't believe
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: any of this. I think that there's a loud, angry
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: voice in this country that are misled that has been
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: leading the coverage and everything online. And I found out
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: with my eyes that it just wasn't true. that it
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: just wasn't true, that Ed Sheeran had huge support, bigger
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: than Macklemore could ever have.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Get started. Perfectly imperfect. Curtis Lewa and Larry Minty in
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the morning.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Guaranteed human.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: On 710WOR. So the San Gennaro feast is underway. Ten days, really.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, it started last Thursday, but that's just the warm-up.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: And then it's ten solid days from about noon each day.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: to 12 midnight, and it is packed right along Mulberry Street.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I go there every year with the Guardian Angels. And
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Friday night, Saturday night, I spent four hours each night
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: just working the crowd. Larry Natalie, great focus group for
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: WOR because I had on me the WOR talk radio
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: cards with all of our information about our morning show,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: and I was like a Pez machine giving them out.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: People come from everywhere to the feast. Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, Connecticut,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: upstate New York, Nassau, Suffolk, and obviously the five boroughs.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: So it's a good focus group. And time and time again,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: because I could easily be spotted in the crowd with
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: the red beret and the red sateen jacket, people would say,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: you know, I've come over to listen to you and Larry.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I can't listen to WABC any longer than Sid in
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: the morning because it's always Israel first, Israel first, Israel first.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: And I heard it from so many different people. No
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: disrespect to Israel, but it's sort of like there's so
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: much in the news. And they applauded us because we
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: talk about so many different issues and they were pointing
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: it out. So, you know, they're listeners because they could
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: be faking you out. Like so many said to me,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I voted for you. I voted for you. I voted
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: for you. I said, if you all voted for me,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I'd be in Gracie Mansion right now. But they weren't
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: faking us out on listening to us because they were
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: citing a lot of the issues that we talk about
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: that they don't talk about on other talk radio programs.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: The other thing is that the feast is deteriorating. There's
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: no doubt about it. It's not the way it used
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: to be. The bad part of it is the Genovese
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: crime family ran it. And then it had a lot
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: of Italian culture. Rudy became mayor. He eliminated the Genovese
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: crime family. And it was a cultural event. There's less
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: and less of the culture. There's more and more of
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: the vendors along the way. And not just selling products
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: that promote the Italian-American tradition. You know, vendors who would
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: be selling tchotchkes to tourists in Times Square. All of that.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: As long as you could afford to have a stand,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: you can be there. But I got to tell you,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: people are out of their minds, Larry. I mean, we're
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: talking humongous crowds. It's like a crawl. People bringing baby
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: carriages with babies in it. And then not understanding as
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the crowd says, lady, why would you be bringing a
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: baby carriage in here with a baby? The poor baby
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: could be crushed. Other people in wheelchairs, you know, it's
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: sort of like they can barely function. Weed in the air. Oh,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: my God. My red sateen jacket smelled like I had
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: been smoking Maui Waui in Hindu Kush. I bet you
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of other people felt that. And something you
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: would have never seen. In the middle of each block
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: with the crowds, guys had these coolers. They were selling nutcrackers,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: which is a mix of hard liquors. You know, it's
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: like a juice bottle, plastic bottle. They put them in.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, knock your socks off openly. Cops not doing anything. Vendors,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: the people who run the fair, not doing anything. And
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: you say... We got to get more Italian culture in here.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: These nutcrackers, do they mix this themselves so it's already
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: been opened and they could do anything they wanted to
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: that bottle and the contents within? Man, I would never
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: buy one of them off the street.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, and they're hawking them right there. Nutcrackers, nutcrackers. And
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: you're saying like, OK, well, the people who run the feast,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: they should run them off. But apparently that's not. And
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: the garbage. Oh, my God, Larry, Natalie, garbage piling up everywhere.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Now they're making enough money. They could have sanitation crews
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: who are constantly changing the baskets, you know, putting the
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: bags out and removing the debris. But, man, the piles
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: and piles of debris. So they got a lot of
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: work to do. And then, plus, naturally, Zora Mondami's ethnic
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: map eliminated Little Italy as a key center of Italian-American culture.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: And coming on the heels of the chairman of the
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: annual Columbus Day Parade, the big one, because there are
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of smaller parades throughout the tri-state area. announced
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: on Sunday that he has invited the mayor, Zoran Mandami,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: who hates Christopher Columbus, gave him the finger of the
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: statue of the head of Astoria, to walk with him
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: and the parade committee that starts out the parade. The
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: mayor has not responded yet, but the Italians were going
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: absolutely out of their mind. I mean, what words can
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I use? Sfacim. Steve Hulse, other words that I cannot
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: mention here on the air. I mean, curses were flying out.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: And the only thing different is that the geriatric espresso
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: sipping killers of organized crime, who used to be very prevalent,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: were now using walkers, wheelchairs, and oxygen tanks. They could
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: barely move. But boy, they were cursing up a storm.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: That's fascinating. You said the one guy invited the mayor,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: but there was also a committee. They had no say
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: in this?
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: They all said okay?
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they do this generally for whoever the mayor is.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Now it's up to Zoran to either accept or he's
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: not going to go. The one guy who would always
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: go and get attacked viciously, even though he spoke Italian well.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: was comrade Bill de Blasio. He would march in the parade.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: He'd be oblivious. Booze from both sides. You're a fugazi, Italian.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: He would be oblivious. Let's see what Zoran does.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: That may be brilliant. This might be a great strategy
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: to offer him the invitation just so he can say no,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: which will infuriate a lot of people.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: We may know by tomorrow, I'm sure, after Zoran meets
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: with the president today, Some of the reporters will ask
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: him about that.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: See? That's thinking next level. When you invite somebody knowing
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: they're going to say next.