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Credlin | 22 July · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krandlin live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program here. So what's coming
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Speaker 2: up tonight on Kredline the first day of Parliament to
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Speaker 2: new analysis revealing Anthony Albanezi is Australia's seven million dollar van.
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Speaker 3: That's how much you are.
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Speaker 2: Forking out to keep a roof over the PM's head,
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Speaker 2: not to mention his salary and travel and vehicle and
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Speaker 2: wine and food and staff costs. I'm gott to do
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Speaker 2: that in a moment. Plus, the Greens at War II,
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Speaker 2: they've given one of their founders the boot, following claims
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Speaker 2: the parties in the grips of an intolerant trans and
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Speaker 2: queer cult. But what about all the women silence that
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Speaker 2: expelled from the Greens specimically defending the rights of women.
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Speaker 2: We'll speak to a former Foundation member in the moment.
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Speaker 2: And with Victoria in the middle of a crime crisis,
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Speaker 2: why would a season magistrate throw a hands in the
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Speaker 2: air and let off a young offender charge with more
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Speaker 2: than four hundred crimes and allow them to walk free.
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Speaker 2: Australia signs a joint statement on gaza that's been welcomed
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Speaker 2: by AMAS.
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Speaker 3: We're not the central player.
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Speaker 4: You know, as I always remind people, but we add
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Speaker 4: our voice to the calls from the international community for
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Speaker 4: things to happen.
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Speaker 3: And this is what this statement is.
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Speaker 2: What Penny Wong and the terrorists of barracking for you. You
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Speaker 2: know you're in trouble, Greg shirt on that in a
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Speaker 2: moment the first last night you heard from Emma Webb,
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Speaker 2: the young farmer leading the fire to save her community
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Speaker 2: from ninety wind turbines, each to one hundred and sixty
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Speaker 2: meters tall, or the height of Sydney's Wrangaroo Tower.
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Speaker 5: We are collateral damage farmers. And that's a fact where
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Speaker 5: our community, like so many others, is being exploited by multinational,
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Speaker 5: billion dollar corporations and none of it is about saving
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Speaker 5: the world or clean energy.
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Speaker 6: It's about making money.
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Speaker 2: Many of the residents of Buying Along and near Yas
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Speaker 2: in New South Wales have been there for generations, farming
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Speaker 2: some of Australia's best sheep country, or enjoying the tranquility
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Speaker 2: of the area that was once Banjo Patterson's childhood home.
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Speaker 2: Along with so much of rural Australia, this land's about
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Speaker 2: to be transformed, most would say destroyed, as part of
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Speaker 2: Australia is pushed to achieve net zero by twenty fifty.
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Speaker 6: Now, why you would want.
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Speaker 2: To devastate the planet in order to save the planet
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Speaker 2: utterly escapes me. But the climate Zella's running this government
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Speaker 2: and infesting the bureaucracy are held bent on covering an
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Speaker 2: area about the size of Tasmania with wind turbines and
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Speaker 2: solar panels in their quest to limit emissions. Understandably, the
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Speaker 2: people whose outlooks are going to be destroyed and whose
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Speaker 2: property values are about to plant or they are beyond angry.
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Speaker 2: They feel betrayed.
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Speaker 5: Rural communities with easy targets. We don't have a powerful voice.
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Speaker 5: We certainly don't have the numbers in terms of votes.
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Speaker 5: So there is a his power imbalance here that has
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Speaker 5: been taken advantage of.
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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't they be angry because both sides of politics
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Speaker 2: labor with green convictions and the coalition half heartedly because
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Speaker 2: they can't decide where they stand on this issue, are
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Speaker 2: conspiring to subject them to something they feel is deeply
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Speaker 2: wrong and it is wrong to give mostly foreign owned
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Speaker 2: renewable energy companies are using mostly Chinese made wind turbines
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Speaker 2: and solar panels. An unfettered right to enter the land
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Speaker 2: of these farmers and erect these monstrosities. All because it's
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Speaker 2: part of a so called green transition away from cheap
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Speaker 2: and reliable fossil fuels is dead wrong. As it stands now,
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Speaker 2: Australia needs to double its renewable power generation in just
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Speaker 2: five years to achieve the government's legislated eighty two percent target.
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Speaker 6: Now three years.
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Speaker 2: Back, Chris Bowen said this would require the erection of
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Speaker 2: forty large wind turbines every single month, at twenty two
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Speaker 2: thousand solar panels every single day for seven years, plasts
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Speaker 2: the construction of at least ten thousand kilometers of new
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Speaker 2: transmission towers. And because it's all now way behind schedule
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Speaker 2: and way in front of the budget, this epic desecration
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Speaker 2: of some of our nation's best agricultural land would all
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Speaker 2: must be massively sped up. Hence this insane push to
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Speaker 2: destroy the amenity of a gorgeous countryside that people like
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Speaker 2: em aware better family before her, have been protecting for generations.
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Speaker 5: Every day I'm fielding phone calls from neighbors who are
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Speaker 5: not coping with the stress. Farmers who have worked their
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Speaker 5: entire lives to care for the land and whose entire
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Speaker 5: wealth and legacy is tied up in that land, who
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Speaker 5: feel an overwhelming sense of powerlessness.
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Speaker 2: Only people living in the city, conditioned by years of
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Speaker 2: green propaganda to believe there's a crime, a climate crisis
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Speaker 2: that only swiftly ending the use of fossil fuels can ameliorate. Well,
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Speaker 2: think it's smart to export Australian coal and gas to
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Speaker 2: China to help them make wind turbines and solar panels
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Speaker 2: that they then sell back to us so that we
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Speaker 2: can no longer use our coal and our gas ourselves.
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Speaker 2: I mean, how does that make sense? We are making
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Speaker 2: ourselves poorer in order to make China richer so that
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Speaker 2: we can engage in climate virtue signaling here while total
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Speaker 2: global emissions keep going up and up. Honestly, this is
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Speaker 2: mad and more and more country people, whether it's Emma
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Speaker 2: Web's people near Yas or the Malee farmers I visited
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Speaker 2: earlier in the year, or those campaigners on the Illawarra
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Speaker 2: against the giant offshore wind farms, and we've seen that
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Speaker 2: in Gippsland and Western Australia too. They all know that
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Speaker 2: this is the ruin nation of our country.
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Speaker 3: Father and his brother.
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Speaker 7: Didn't work their guts out for nothing.
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Speaker 8: This is now my legacy, this, this is all their legacy.
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Speaker 3: We were shocked. We were Lausus, absolutely devastated.
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Speaker 9: We felt totally ambushed, being treated like a peasant.
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Speaker 3: We've got no rights.
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Speaker 10: During harvest, I saw something doing some surveys in the
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Speaker 10: middle of the night.
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Speaker 1: We went to approaching a few neighbors and hitting an
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Speaker 1: upcom the police on us.
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Speaker 8: They were actually the people that didn't have permission.
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Speaker 3: To be there.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a gigantic act of economic and
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Speaker 2: environmental self harm that we must stop before our country
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Speaker 2: scarred by forests of these gargantuan windmills that only turn
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Speaker 2: about thirty percent of the time, and the overbuild of
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Speaker 2: transmission lines needed to service the turbines that within twenty
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Speaker 2: years or so will all be derelict. Anyway, that's right,
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Speaker 2: Chris Bowen doesn't want you to understand that the big
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Speaker 2: motives and these turbines are lucky in the last twenty
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Speaker 2: years according to manufacturers, meaning that the shell companies foreign
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Speaker 2: companies that put them there and have creamed up all
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Speaker 2: the subsidies. When they are long gone and onto their
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Speaker 2: next scam. When these things are decommissioned, they will be
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Speaker 2: left to rust in the paddock with hosting.
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Speaker 10: Would never be enough to pay for the decommissioning yourself,
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Speaker 10: which I think is conservatively at six hundred k per turbine,
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Speaker 10: six hundred thousand dollars per turbine, and that's quite conservative.
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Speaker 2: Now, these sensible, level headed country people, they can see
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Speaker 2: the injustice in companies paying some locals and not others
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Speaker 2: to host the wind farms that destroy the amenity and
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Speaker 2: the productiveness of everyone's land.
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Speaker 11: More people know, those who still choose to take the money,
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Speaker 11: they're willfully going against the sentiment of so many people
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Speaker 11: in their community. It's going to have long term ripple effects.
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Speaker 11: And if they don't at least respect that aspect of
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Speaker 11: their decisions, then yeah, it's only going to get worse.
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Speaker 2: And as that sneakiness of hardy behind commercial and confidence contracts,
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Speaker 2: that's putting endeavor against neighbor. But if you thought this
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Speaker 2: push was the worst of it, we all mistaken. This
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Speaker 2: is just what's ahead of us now to reach the
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Speaker 2: unattainable twenty thirty targets. Just wait till the government puts
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Speaker 2: out the twenty thirty five targets We should have had
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Speaker 2: them pre election. Tell you why we didn't because they'll
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Speaker 2: be devastating. But we'll get them by Christmas. If you
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Speaker 2: think it's bad now, these are the targets that will
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Speaker 2: really rip agriculture apart. Not only will new and more
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Speaker 2: ambitious targets, it's the government spin mean yet more wind
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Speaker 2: turbines and even more solar panels, disfiguring prime land and
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Speaker 2: pristine national parks. But they'll directly impact on things like
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Speaker 2: herd sizes because it'll be agriculture itself that will be
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Speaker 2: the emissions pariah and it will change forever the food
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Speaker 2: we're allowed to eat by camera and the billions we make,
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Speaker 2: or we used to make out of agricultural exports. Now
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Speaker 2: there is a reckoning company. For all the talk of
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Speaker 2: the government's agendas today in the Parliament, and as it
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Speaker 2: was efficiently opened by the Governor General, the elephant.
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Speaker 6: In the room is net zero.
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Speaker 2: It's net zero and daylight in terms of what's going
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Speaker 2: to impact this country over this next term of parliament.
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Speaker 2: It's going to hit our bottom line, it's going to
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Speaker 2: hurt our exports, it's going to change our regional communities,
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Speaker 2: it's going to impact the food you're putting your fridge,
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Speaker 2: the sort of car you drive. It's going to hit
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Speaker 2: your power bill as it has already, and it's going
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Speaker 2: to fundamentally change the sort of country we are a
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Speaker 2: country right now with sovereign manufactory into one that's increasingly
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Speaker 2: dependent on imports from overseas. And when I say overseas,
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Speaker 2: I mean here China. So my question tonight is when
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Speaker 2: will the fight back come against this madness? And who's
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Speaker 2: going to lead it. Will it be the populists who
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Speaker 2: sometimes do more harm than good? Well, will it be
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Speaker 2: a revitalized liberal National coalition that's finally got out of
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Speaker 2: its election losing funk and work it up to the
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Speaker 2: fact that net zero is incompatible with the social fabric
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Speaker 2: of rural Australia, let alone the maintenance of a first
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Speaker 2: world economy. Because you want to path out of opposition,
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Speaker 2: this is it right, Let's go to Camber now for
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Speaker 2: the package. As I said, heavy on the ceremony today
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Speaker 2: and joining us now Sky's chief election analyst Tom Connell.
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Speaker 12: The first day of Parliament is one largely of tradition
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Speaker 12: and ceremony. Politicians beginning their days in thought in the
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Speaker 12: church pews, a moment of calm before the storm of
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Speaker 12: another parliamentary What.
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Speaker 1: Are you praying for today, Well, I mean peace and
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Speaker 1: goodwill to wall Oh, there's a lot more that Unite
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Speaker 1: system devices.
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Speaker 12: For the victor, it was all smiles. It will be
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Speaker 12: a good day for the opposition along rode ahead.
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Speaker 9: Well, as I've said, we got smashed at the last election,
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Speaker 9: but we're here to work hard.
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Speaker 12: The Welcome to Country a new part of the tradition
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Speaker 12: since two thousand and seven. There was a visual reminder
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Speaker 12: of Labour's thumping win and ability to get ninety four
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Speaker 12: seats in Parliament, their MPs spilling over into the other
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Speaker 12: half of the chamber. Nobody bothered to challenge Labour's nomination
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Speaker 12: of Milton Dick to continue as Speaker.
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Speaker 13: This is not a privilege I take lightly because it
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Speaker 13: is an incredible honor.
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Speaker 12: Although in the Senate the Greens tried to get one
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Speaker 12: of their members elected as president before Pauline Hanson nominated
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Speaker 12: David Pocock, I am flattered.
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Speaker 2: My focus is very much on representing people of the Act.
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Speaker 12: Sue Lyons won the ballot to resume her role as President.
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Speaker 12: All members then gathered to hear from the Governor.
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Speaker 7: And I want to add one more element of care.
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Speaker 7: Please take good care of yourselves and of each other.
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Speaker 6: It can be brutal.
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Speaker 12: Out the front of Parliament, hundreds of protesters gathered for
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Speaker 12: the third straight day, calling on Labor to do more
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Speaker 12: on the war in Gaza.
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Speaker 9: We've got to see sanctions on Israel.
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Speaker 2: You don't think his language has been strong enough to
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Speaker 2: this point.
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Speaker 9: I think it's getting stronger, but it actually needs to
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Speaker 9: be a lot more stronger.
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Speaker 12: Green's MP's not willing to go quite as far as
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Speaker 12: some of the protests assigns.
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Speaker 13: Is a sign just be held behind you there saying
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Speaker 13: that the prime is that the Foreign min is to
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Speaker 13: have blood on their hands.
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Speaker 2: Would you agree with that statement?
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Speaker 6: I think we need to see action from the government.
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Speaker 12: Tom Connall Sky News camera.
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Speaker 6: Goodness me. I want to ruble out the front of Parliament.
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Speaker 2: Busy day there though the formal opening, as I said,
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Speaker 2: pomp and ceremony for the forty eighth Parliament, not a
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Speaker 2: lot of work got done.
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Speaker 6: That happens tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: The big test will be, of course, when Labour's legislative
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Speaker 2: Virginia gets underway. Will also get a question time tomorrow
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Speaker 2: and joining me someone who's there and can't wait for
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Speaker 2: all of that sky's splitting. A letter to Andrew Clenell, well,
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Speaker 2: welcome back, made good to have you on the program.
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Speaker 2: I mean this graphic in the odds today that really
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Speaker 2: illustrates that the House is a sea of red. I
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Speaker 2: mean this is extraordinary. And having been there after an
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Speaker 2: election loss, it's pretty sobering to walk into the chamber
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Speaker 2: and have that confront you. I mean, this is going
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Speaker 2: to be the reckoning for the Libs. Give me a
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Speaker 2: sense of how you think they're going to move on
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Speaker 2: from the shellakin they got back in May. But Hubris,
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Speaker 2: that's a lesson for labor to Andrew, Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I definitely think that's the case, and there'll be a
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Speaker 1: bit of fun poked at them. But the government's got
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Speaker 1: enough serious issues to grapple with that they won't be
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Speaker 1: able to do that for too long. I don't think,
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Speaker 1: Peter and I think there's enough ammunition there suggestions that
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Speaker 1: Jim Chalmers wants to look at various taxes, the difficulties
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Speaker 1: with the US relationship. There is just enough there for
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Speaker 1: the opposition to work with. And look, I've seen this before.
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Speaker 1: I covered the new South fALS parliament after the infamous
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Speaker 1: Christina can nearly twenty eleven result, after the Obede scandals, etc.
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Speaker 1: There were twenty Labor members of that parliament and there
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Speaker 1: were probably close to seventy Coalition on this occasion, we've
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Speaker 1: got something like ninety four to forty three, but significantly
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Speaker 1: ninety four Labor to just twenty eight Liberals. But I
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Speaker 1: think what you'll see as time goes on, we'll get
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Speaker 1: used to these great numbers after the initial shock of it,
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Speaker 1: and it'll be the issues that are tested. And there's
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Speaker 1: always challenges for federal governments, and there certainly are for
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Speaker 1: this government. So you know it's going to be one
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Speaker 1: sided in the chamber, but a lot of it's down
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Speaker 1: to how vocal your side is too. And I don't
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Speaker 1: know if the government was ever that vocal behind Albanezi
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Speaker 1: and Charmers in the last parliament. I'll be interested to
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Speaker 1: see how the new members go with that tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: You make a really good point I always say to
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Speaker 2: our guys it's tone. You know, tone is everything. If
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Speaker 2: you are well affront if you're winning the polls, if
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Speaker 2: you've got a lot of people on your government benches,
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Speaker 2: you need to take that with a bit of humility.
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Speaker 2: If you look like it's a lark that comes through
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Speaker 2: at six o'clock at night, people don't at home. Get
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Speaker 2: the joke that prompted the sort of the skyliking in
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Speaker 2: the chambing, you just look like you're a rebel. You
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Speaker 2: mentioned taxes there. This would be interesting for Susan Lee right.
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Speaker 2: Much has been made of the fact that she's got
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Speaker 2: sort of tax backgrounds. She's got some economic degrees, but
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Speaker 2: she's been in the Parliament for twenty four years. She's
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Speaker 2: never really had an economic portfolio. She's never sort of
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Speaker 2: been in the thrust and parry of the economic debate.
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Speaker 2: She can't just lead it that to the shadow treasure
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Speaker 2: right as leader, particularly on the conservative side of politics,
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Speaker 2: She's really got to have her own economic narrative. She's
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Speaker 2: got to get out there on these economic issues. I'm
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Speaker 2: going to certainly watch that this week. And we've got
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Speaker 2: obviously this talk now that there'll be more and more
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Speaker 2: taxes on the table for the summit.
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Speaker 6: How's this going to play out?
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Speaker 8: Well?
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Speaker 1: I wish I could tell you. I honestly don't know.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying to interview all these senior people
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Speaker 1: in government to try and establish what their game is,
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Speaker 1: and I'm yet to get an answer. They're about tax reform,
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Speaker 1: but they don't want to look at the GST versus
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Speaker 1: income tax. They say that I want to look at
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Speaker 1: mining tax. The only area where I think that they
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Speaker 1: are sort of opening the door is supernuation tax. But
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Speaker 1: then they say, look, everyone's got to agree or we
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Speaker 1: won't do anything. So have they fed income about any
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Speaker 1: of this? And we saw, you know, the Jobs and
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Speaker 1: Skills summit where after that they gave a whole lot
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Speaker 1: of IR wins to the unions, and that's been a
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Speaker 1: source of cynicism as we go into this process.
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Speaker 8: I do sometimes wonder.
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Speaker 1: I do sometimes wonder this isn't isn't Some of this
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Speaker 1: is Anthony Albanezi saying to Jim Charmers, well, if you
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Speaker 1: want reform, go and get consensus, and go and make
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Speaker 1: the case. I do wonder that because Chalmers is said
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Speaker 1: to be keener on it, and we know before a
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Speaker 1: bit he was very keen on negative gearing and capital
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Speaker 1: gains changes, which were very unpopular. So is this a
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Speaker 1: win the PMS giving him to say, well, if you
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Speaker 1: can achieve it, achieve it. If you can't bad luckmate.
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Speaker 1: I think that whole dynamic between the Prime Minister and
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Speaker 1: Treasurer aroused a lot of interest in the last term
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Speaker 1: and does again. And look, the one thing they absolutely
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Speaker 1: must do when we're all talking about the budget situation
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Speaker 1: and people are dreaming up tax ideas to fix its
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Speaker 1: cut the spending on the ndis and the Prime Minister
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Speaker 1: said as much in an interview with me for a
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Speaker 1: Sky's Economic Summit, actually said, no, I'm not happy with
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Speaker 1: you know, one in seven boys or whatever it is,
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Speaker 1: or the age of ten of being on the indiis
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Speaker 1: it's madness. So that is that's the number one area
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Speaker 1: of reform in my book. Let's see what else they're
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Speaker 1: up for. When they're not really, when they don't sound
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Speaker 1: like they're up for much.
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Speaker 2: Well, he he's got to get his hands done in
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister, because anytime there's been any major reform
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Speaker 2: in our country, the Prime Minister's had as much ownership
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Speaker 2: of it and led the ERC table as much as
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Speaker 2: any treasurer has. And he sort of absents himself from
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Speaker 2: the economic debate. He sort of upsents hisself from the
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Speaker 2: national security to back too. Anthony Albineasy so we'll see
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Speaker 2: what happens. There a good interview today with you and
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Speaker 2: Penny Wog. I'll play something from it, but i'll pose
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Speaker 2: the question. I mean, I'm keen to know how much
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Speaker 2: of the China trip is playing or out in camera
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Speaker 2: at the moment.
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Speaker 6: But let's have a listen to what she said.
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Speaker 3: In terms of the United States.
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Speaker 4: You know they are are ally, we are there. There
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Speaker 4: are principal strategic partner. They're also the largest investor, our
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Speaker 4: largest investment partner. That does none of that is is,
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Speaker 4: none of that changes.
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Speaker 2: So the two things here. A lot of criticism over
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Speaker 2: the weekend. That was for six days in China, which
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Speaker 2: is a huge use of the Prime Minister's time, not
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Speaker 2: a lot of games. And the second one was just
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Speaker 2: this constant now pitting of China and the United States
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Speaker 2: and Australia sort of piggy in the middle into the whole.
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Speaker 2: Willy or won't he? And when will you have this
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Speaker 2: meeting with Trump?
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Speaker 10: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: And I think the short answer to that's coordinating in
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Speaker 1: September or we have a real problem, but that's you know,
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Speaker 1: still a couple of months off. And I thought, yes,
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Speaker 1: she was really keen not to offend the Americans in
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Speaker 1: that interview, wasn't she Which is telling and frankly a
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Speaker 1: little bit reassured because the Prime Minister's language is kind
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Speaker 1: of a bit like, oh, well, we need to you know,
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Speaker 1: broaden things and get on well with China as well.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's obviously saying the US is in important,
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Speaker 1: but I do feel that he was a bit disappointed,
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Speaker 1: to say the least, he never met Donald Trump and
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Speaker 1: at that G seven meeting, and we just don't need
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Speaker 1: this relationship to slide at all, particularly with Kevin Rudd
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Speaker 1: in the mix there, who's unfortunately said these things about
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Speaker 1: Trump in the past. So I was a little bit
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Speaker 1: reassured that Penny Wong seems to have good relations with
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Speaker 1: Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, from what she said,
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Speaker 1: and she said, they're our principal strategic partner. There's none
20:31
Speaker 1: of this or they're both important to us. She says,
20:35
Speaker 1: the grab you played, they're the principal strategic partner, you know.
20:39
Speaker 2: Fuel well Santang ThM three or four years to wake up.
20:44
Speaker 2: Let's see if that holds. Andrew clenew, thank you. Let's
20:48
Speaker 2: go to another blow in the Australia Israel allions saw relationship,
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Speaker 2: if we can call it anything like that. Today Australia
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Speaker 2: signed a joint statement demanding an immediate end the war
20:57
Speaker 2: in Gaza, along with twenty seven are the country is.
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Speaker 2: The statement says, where the signatureies is listed below, come
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Speaker 2: together with a simple, urgent message, the war in Gaza
21:08
Speaker 2: must end.
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Speaker 6: Now.
21:09
Speaker 2: It goes further to say the Israeli government's aid delivery
21:12
Speaker 2: model is dangerous, fuels instability and deprives of Gazans of
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Speaker 2: human dignity. Here was Penny Wong with Andrew a little earlier.
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Speaker 4: We are clear in our condemnation of Hamas. We are
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Speaker 4: clear in our condemnation of their ideology and their actions.
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Speaker 4: We call for the release of hostages. We also say
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Speaker 4: that civilians must be protected. We say aid must be
21:37
Speaker 4: delivered unimpeded. And these are all important to the Australian people.
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Speaker 2: Jennymen Now, Greg Sheridan, foreign editor of course at the
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Speaker 2: Australian Greg the Australia Israel and the Jewish Affairs councils
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Speaker 2: have said they reject this statement. They say it absurdly
21:56
Speaker 2: accepts hummus propaganda. We all want this water, weir, but
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Speaker 2: how it is ended, and what becomes off Hammas. That's
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Speaker 2: also critical in any equation, isn't it.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, Peter, great to be with you. You're right, of course. Look,
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Speaker 14: I think the Albanezi government is not trying to have
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Speaker 14: any effect on the Middle East. It's just trying to
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Speaker 14: manage domestic politics. Because it took against Israel right from
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Speaker 14: the start, it now has no influence with Israel at all.
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Speaker 14: You know, a few things remember about this. The overwhelming
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Speaker 14: moral responsibility for what is an appalling human tragedy in
22:36
Speaker 14: Gaza lies with Hamas. They could end all this fighting
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Speaker 14: tomorrow by releasing the fifty Israeli hostages they have, of
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Speaker 14: whom we think probably twenty might still be alive, perhaps
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Speaker 14: nineteen and thirty are dead. Now Hamas wants this devastation.
22:57
Speaker 14: It wants its own people to suffer this devastation because
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Speaker 14: it figures that this is damaging to Israel. On the
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Speaker 14: other hand, that doesn't exempt Israel from its moral responsibilities,
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Speaker 14: and it does have, as the dominant power, an absolute
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Speaker 14: responsibility for the civilians in Gaza. I mean, this is
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Speaker 14: a terrible circumstance, a terrible circumstance. The statement itself is
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Speaker 14: internally contradictory. It says we need a negotiated ceasefire, and
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Speaker 14: that it says we need an immediate unconditional cease fire.
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Speaker 14: There is a ceasefire on the table. Israel has agreed
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Speaker 14: to it, Hamas is rejecting it. I don't think that
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Speaker 14: these statements achieve anything, and I don't think the Albanezi
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Speaker 14: government has done or said anything useful about this terrible,
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Speaker 14: tragic situation since the first terrorist atrocity on October seventh.
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Speaker 2: What about the slaughter of Drew's civilians and Christians by
23:54
Speaker 2: terrorists and Syria Christians I have to say, right across
23:57
Speaker 2: the Middle East are being slaughtered. I mean, where's the
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Speaker 2: statement there from one, where's the un where's the march is,
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Speaker 2: where's all the other things we hear about in terms
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Speaker 2: of Gaza.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, the sad truth is Peter that unless a murder
24:13
Speaker 14: is conducted by Americans, Israelis or Australians, the Australian left
24:19
Speaker 14: has no interest in it. So there are people dying
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Speaker 14: in very large numbers in Yemen, in Sudan, in the Congo,
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Speaker 14: Christians all over Africa and in parts of Asia, and
24:33
Speaker 14: not all over Africa, but in several parts of Africa,
24:36
Speaker 14: in several parts of Asia, and in the Middle East
24:38
Speaker 14: are dying in large numbers, being killed, being murdered by
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Speaker 14: Islamus terrorists. And honestly, the government may have said something
24:45
Speaker 14: about this. You know, I get three hundred emails a day,
24:48
Speaker 14: and I may have missed the one where they condemned
24:51
Speaker 14: the slaughter of Christians in Africa and the Middle East.
24:53
Speaker 14: But I haven't heard. I can't recall a single word
24:57
Speaker 14: from them, and lately this terrible of Drews and other
25:01
Speaker 14: minorities in Syria. But that's why I don't think any
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Speaker 14: of this stuff is driven by genuine moral outrage. It's
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Speaker 14: driven by politics. And you know, unless the villain is
25:15
Speaker 14: from the designated set of villains, the international left simply
25:20
Speaker 14: has no interest in talking about the matter.
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Speaker 2: We're going to move now, I guess, to a phase
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Speaker 2: of Trump watch. You know, we've really got to have
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Speaker 2: a meeting, no later than by the end of the year.
25:33
Speaker 2: We've had six days of the Prime Minister's time spent
25:36
Speaker 2: for not a lot of gains in China. And basically,
25:40
Speaker 2: if you listen to the Prime Minister, he wants to
25:42
Speaker 2: have this meeting with the US President. If he can
25:43
Speaker 2: get it, he wants to tell him what lines he's
25:47
Speaker 2: drawing on the alliance. You know, don't mind the ANSAs
25:52
Speaker 2: Treaty or anything else. But he's hoping just to do
25:54
Speaker 2: it in a code or at the next international summit.
25:57
Speaker 2: So so six or seven minutes for the US President
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Speaker 2: and six days for Beijing for the leadership in Beijing.
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Speaker 6: This is becoming a fast.
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Speaker 14: Greg it is, but sadly the Prime Minister is not
26:11
Speaker 14: suffering for it politically as yet. I think this has
26:15
Speaker 14: been comprehensibly mismanaged in terms of Australia's national interest. He
26:19
Speaker 14: gave Beijing a tremendous propaganda win and got nothing out
26:22
Speaker 14: of it. Beijing can say, look, even America's closest ally
26:25
Speaker 14: sucks up to us and does everything we tell it.
26:27
Speaker 14: We told it not to increase its defense budget and
26:30
Speaker 14: it didn't. We told it to shut up about our
26:32
Speaker 14: military incursions around its territory, and basically it did so.
26:36
Speaker 14: Albanesi every now and again sends out Penny Wong or
26:39
Speaker 14: Richard Miles to make a reassuring statement on Sky News.
26:43
Speaker 14: Anthony Alberzi didn't raw like that when he was in Beijing,
26:48
Speaker 14: and I think from the start. He's mismanaged Trump. Trump
26:52
Speaker 14: is very difficult to manage. Trump is a very difficult president.
26:55
Speaker 14: Lots of minuses as well as some pluses, but you've
26:58
Speaker 14: got to have an agenda. The United States, as Pennywong says,
27:03
Speaker 14: is our core strategic partner. All of our security and
27:06
Speaker 14: a trillion dollars of investment is tied up with the
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Speaker 14: United States. Beijing, on the other hand, is the regime
27:13
Speaker 14: which has caused the most dangerous strategic circumstances we've confronted
27:17
Speaker 14: in eighty years, as the government used to tell us
27:20
Speaker 14: until five minutes ago. And yet Albanese spends a week
27:24
Speaker 14: cuing and billing and singing the praises of this regime,
27:28
Speaker 14: and he talks in this you know, nigkedly stultified, sort
27:34
Speaker 14: of constipated fashion of the United States, for whom he
27:37
Speaker 14: has no agenda, no plan of management, nothing to say.
27:42
Speaker 14: I think this is a low point in Australian diplomacy.
27:46
Speaker 14: And you know, whatever Trump is, Albanese has a task
27:52
Speaker 14: to manage that relationship in the Australian national interest. At
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Speaker 14: the moment, he's showing no signs of doing that at all.
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Speaker 6: I think on that score.
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Speaker 2: You know, he is politically one of the most rat
28:07
Speaker 2: cunning I've seen in a long time. But on the
28:10
Speaker 2: big stage and in the big policy arena, there's a
28:14
Speaker 2: real hollow man about Anthony Alberanezy. Just before we go,
28:18
Speaker 2: I mentioned it was a ceremonial day in Parliament.
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Speaker 6: Of course, all the new MPs.
28:22
Speaker 2: They come in, they get their spot in the chamber
28:25
Speaker 2: and they get sworn in. Now, given you've got this
28:28
Speaker 2: series of best selling books on the very topic.
28:30
Speaker 6: I want to play this.
28:32
Speaker 2: This is the Labor front bench, some of them being
28:34
Speaker 2: sworn in today, and you'll see which of the ministers
28:37
Speaker 2: are picking up a holy book.
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Speaker 7: Honorable members making an oath, Please take the religious text
28:44
Speaker 7: in your right hand. Do each of you swear that
28:48
Speaker 7: you will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His
28:52
Speaker 7: Majesty King Charles the Third, his heirs and successes according
28:56
Speaker 7: to law. So help you God.
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Speaker 2: It looks like Tony Burke's got a family Bible there.
29:04
Speaker 2: The Prime Minister bangs on about his Catholicism but doesn't
29:08
Speaker 2: swear on the Bible. We are a country built on
29:12
Speaker 2: the Jedeo Christian tradition, right, So you look at the
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Speaker 2: parliament and it used to only be a handful that
29:17
Speaker 2: would take the affirmation. Now it's only a handful that
29:21
Speaker 2: take the oath. How long are we going to remain
29:24
Speaker 2: a Judeo Christian country?
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Speaker 14: Greg, Well, it's a good question.
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Speaker 10: Pet.
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Speaker 14: I think I saw Jim Chalmers pick up a religious
29:30
Speaker 14: text there. I'm not sure. I don't want to verbal
29:33
Speaker 14: him in any way. So look, I'm sad about that,
29:36
Speaker 14: but I'm not censorious. I've got no criticism of the individuals.
29:39
Speaker 14: Each must live according to his or her conscience, and
29:42
Speaker 14: they should make their oath of affirmation or swear by
29:46
Speaker 14: the Bible, whatever is right for them. But it is
29:49
Speaker 14: a sad thing. It is a sad thing that our
29:53
Speaker 14: parliamentarians are bereft of the inspiration, the knowledge, and the
29:59
Speaker 14: consolation of religious belief. I'm not making any criticism of them.
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Speaker 14: I just think it's a pity.
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Speaker 2: I agree with you there, all right, Oliver Greek, thank you?
30:10
Speaker 2: After the break, Anthony Albanezy, he's Australia's seven million dollar man,
30:14
Speaker 2: So what do you get your money? Blasts of secret
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Speaker 2: wind turbine deal that's pitting regional communities against one another,
30:26
Speaker 2: welcome back still become the former Greens member who's now
30:29
Speaker 2: speaking out against the party in her defense of women,
30:32
Speaker 2: as she says the Greens are losing sight of what
30:34
Speaker 2: was once an environmental agenda.
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Speaker 6: First, just how much.
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Speaker 2: Does the PM cost you each year? New analysis from
30:41
Speaker 2: the Institute of Public Affairs puts that bill a close
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Speaker 2: to seven million dollars. That's the cost of maintaining the
30:47
Speaker 2: two homes, the lodging Camera and Kiribilli House in Sydney.
30:50
Speaker 2: That's two point five million. The PM salary, well, that's
30:52
Speaker 2: now over six hundred and twenty two thousand a year.
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Speaker 2: Throwing his massive bill for overseas travel is car cop
31:00
Speaker 2: that's cars plural, and almost three million for his personal staff.
31:04
Speaker 2: There you go, that's just seven million dollars. Let's bring
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Speaker 2: him my panel now joinman out journalist at the Daily
31:09
Speaker 2: Telegraph James Willis, and author at The Spectator Terry Barnes. Well, James,
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Speaker 2: are we getting value for money out of our seven
31:17
Speaker 2: million dollars? No?
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Speaker 3: I don't think so, Peter.
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Speaker 13: And this cost seems to just go up and up
31:22
Speaker 13: and up. And we know the PM has for a
31:25
Speaker 13: long period of time loved the leather of the com
31:28
Speaker 13: cars and has no issue traveling in plush style wherever
31:32
Speaker 13: he goes. And sure there's an argument to say the
31:35
Speaker 13: Prime Minister needs to be comfortable when he travels. But
31:38
Speaker 13: the one thing that I think is really problematic, and
31:40
Speaker 13: I know you would understand this, given that you've worked
31:43
Speaker 13: for a prime minister, is the staff bill, both for
31:46
Speaker 13: travel and cost, is just astronomical. Now, for all those
31:50
Speaker 13: dozens of staff, for the media advisors, for the policy
31:53
Speaker 13: advisors that are in that office, I have to say
31:57
Speaker 13: Anthony Alberinezi would be one of the least brieff or
32:00
Speaker 13: least across his brief. Prime ministers were seen for a
32:02
Speaker 13: long period of time, so I'm not sure what they're
32:04
Speaker 13: all doing here, but certainly that staff cost is outrageous
32:08
Speaker 13: on its own, and I think people see these figures
32:10
Speaker 13: and for the bloke that grew up in Housing Commission
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Speaker 13: that talks about his roots, he lost touch with that
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Speaker 13: long ago.
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Speaker 3: Peter.
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Speaker 2: I might make the point for people at home too,
32:20
Speaker 2: that the Prime minister's housekeeper pays for his shampoo, is soap,
32:24
Speaker 2: his toothpaste and that of his fiancee. All of that
32:27
Speaker 2: stuff's paid for. All the meals and wine and blah,
32:29
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. But just on the staff labor.
32:32
Speaker 2: Allow a staffer who might be working for let's say
32:35
Speaker 2: a Way senator not to live in WWA with a
32:38
Speaker 2: senator or Canberra where they've got another office, but to
32:41
Speaker 2: say I want to be based in Brisbane or Tasmania.
32:44
Speaker 2: So there's all of those extra costs to fly staff
32:48
Speaker 2: around the country. And that's partly why these bills. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I've never saw bills like this in my time, but
32:53
Speaker 2: the bills are very, very high. Let's go to the
32:56
Speaker 2: Greens war, and it is a war. One of their
32:58
Speaker 2: co founders, Drew High, allegedly expelled from the party for
33:02
Speaker 2: disagreeing with the party's embrace of transgender rights. The Green's
33:06
Speaker 2: new leader, Liversa Waters Well, she's resisting calls to step
33:09
Speaker 2: in and sort this out. I'm going to speak to
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Speaker 2: another Green who's been expelled over this very issue. But
33:15
Speaker 2: I tell you what, Terry, this is a far cry
33:17
Speaker 2: from the Party of Bob Brown, isn't it.
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Speaker 15: Well, certainly I don't agree with their principles, but at
33:22
Speaker 15: least in those days, Bob Brown and Drew Hutton and
33:25
Speaker 15: people around them had principles. They believed in their environmental stands,
33:30
Speaker 15: they believed in what they were doing was right.
33:32
Speaker 6: But now what are the Greens.
33:34
Speaker 15: They're basically a pro gaza pro alphabet sou pro any
33:38
Speaker 15: cause it's going party. They're not actually, they're not actually
33:41
Speaker 15: representing what they were founded to believe it. And Drew Hutton,
33:44
Speaker 15: I mean, to his great embarrassment, has been kicked out
33:48
Speaker 15: of his own party for what one senior Queensland Green
33:53
Speaker 15: said was exercising his right of free speech.
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Speaker 6: I mean that says it all that's got that.
33:59
Speaker 2: Sort of revelation and that you've picked up out of
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Speaker 2: New South Wales. This is the win Prospect company, James.
34:05
Speaker 2: I've been covering it here on the show, but you
34:08
Speaker 2: Tipney right into this earlier in the week. This is
34:11
Speaker 2: ninety wind turbines going into communities from buying a long
34:15
Speaker 2: and bounding These are.
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Speaker 6: Areas just outside of Yes.
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Speaker 2: We spoke to Emma, one of our farmers last night,
34:21
Speaker 2: Emma Web she was fantastic. Tell you what, I'm going
34:23
Speaker 2: to get her into Parliament or unless she should.
34:25
Speaker 6: Be running the NFF.
34:26
Speaker 2: But it's the secret sort of skullduggery of these contracts
34:32
Speaker 2: that you've been picking up.
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Speaker 13: Well, that's right, and Peter, it's actually really tragic because
34:38
Speaker 13: you've got these tight knit communities who have been through fire,
34:42
Speaker 13: not in this case flood, but as we know, floods
34:44
Speaker 13: have been devastating in farming communities, drought for a long
34:47
Speaker 13: period of time, volatile market prices, particularly in regards to wool.
34:53
Speaker 13: But they've always been able to stick together and lean
34:56
Speaker 13: on each other. And all of a sudden, these net
34:59
Speaker 13: zero cowboys come in from other states or other countries
35:02
Speaker 13: and do secret deals with their neighbors. And they get
35:06
Speaker 13: a map and say, okay, we're on the boundary fence,
35:08
Speaker 13: but we're not going to get any compensation, but our
35:11
Speaker 13: neighbors will. So it is literally torn communities apart and
35:15
Speaker 13: has created enormous issues. Now, I just want to make
35:17
Speaker 13: two points on this. We revealed the secret deals today
35:20
Speaker 13: in these tiny towns. But you've always been talking about
35:24
Speaker 13: following the money with renewable energy. Well Win Prospect have
35:27
Speaker 13: basically come in. They're a Melbourne based company. They're going
35:31
Speaker 13: to cop all the hits early on, do all the paperwork,
35:34
Speaker 13: get this project over the line. And then a mob
35:37
Speaker 13: called Mint Renewables come in. Now Mint Renewables is a
35:40
Speaker 13: joint venture between Infratil, who are a company that tomorrow
35:44
Speaker 13: will be on the ASX two hundred that will be
35:47
Speaker 13: announced and move onto the ASEX two hundred tomorrow. They're
35:50
Speaker 13: an investment firm and the other co owner the Commonwealth
35:55
Speaker 13: Superannuation Corporation. So yes, Canberra bureaucrat Superation Superannuation are co
36:00
Speaker 13: funding this project. Those two come in and deal with
36:03
Speaker 13: it for the rest of the way. The other thing
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Speaker 13: which will be in the telegraph tomorrow extensively Peter, and
36:08
Speaker 13: this is really a metaphor for just what is going
36:11
Speaker 13: on in regional communities. More than half of these ninety turbines,
36:15
Speaker 13: which are two hundred and sixty meters tall, will be
36:19
Speaker 13: hosted by a farmer who has a main residence in
36:23
Speaker 13: Sydney's eastern suburbs at Bellevue Hill and plays at one
36:27
Speaker 13: of Sydney's most elite golf courses. And we cross paths
36:31
Speaker 13: with him today at that golf course. He's playing golf
36:35
Speaker 13: while they're sharing sheep feeding lambs, and more than half
36:39
Speaker 13: of these ninety wind turbines are on his property. The
36:42
Speaker 13: good news for him is he doesn't have to live
36:43
Speaker 13: there all the time. He's got this beautiful house in
36:45
Speaker 13: Bellevue Hill. But the rest of them, struggling on the
36:48
Speaker 13: boundaries at this stage, don't get a scent of compensation,
36:51
Speaker 13: and their land values are likely to fall as a
36:54
Speaker 13: result of being next door to these turbines almost the
36:57
Speaker 13: size of Sydney's Crown Barangaroo.
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Speaker 2: The point you about about the money. You know a
37:02
Speaker 2: lot of these investors that come in are there to
37:05
Speaker 2: sweep up the subsidies. They're going to be long gone
37:07
Speaker 2: in twenty years time and the farmers have left with
37:10
Speaker 2: the decommissioning bill. Most will not be able to afford
37:13
Speaker 2: six to seven hundred thousand dollars per turbine, so they'll
37:16
Speaker 2: just rust away in the paddocks. But what's happening, and
37:19
Speaker 2: you nailed it there is ossie firms are knocking on
37:22
Speaker 2: the farmer's door. They think they're dealing with an Australian company.
37:26
Speaker 2: They build a rapport with the person, they trust them,
37:28
Speaker 2: they sign the contract, they go and never see them
37:32
Speaker 2: again and it ends up in foreign ownership hands. Seventy
37:35
Speaker 2: percent of them in terms of wind turbines are foreign
37:38
Speaker 2: owned and the companies basically Phoenix start again, Phoenix, start again.
37:43
Speaker 2: You will never ever ever hear from that young bloke
37:46
Speaker 2: who's knocking on your door ever again. Just quickly, terry revelations. Today,
37:53
Speaker 2: the Federal Department of Health says, well, all you people
37:55
Speaker 2: who thought you might get that free visit from the
37:57
Speaker 2: Prime Minister because he held up that Medicare card, you're
38:00
Speaker 2: not going to get a bulked bill.
38:02
Speaker 6: They say.
38:02
Speaker 2: At least a quarter will not take up the Prime
38:05
Speaker 2: Minister's promise. So this is buyer's remorse, they have to say,
38:08
Speaker 2: for the poor old Australian voter.
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Speaker 15: Well, it certainly is, and certainly the help mister Mark
38:13
Speaker 15: Butler's department gave him an incoming Minister's brief and you
38:16
Speaker 15: know about those sort of briefs as well as I do, Peter.
38:18
Speaker 15: But basically saying that the labor promise in relation to
38:23
Speaker 15: ninety percent fully bulked billing practices by twenty thirty is
38:26
Speaker 15: not going to happen because of the incentives not being enough.
38:28
Speaker 15: And I can tell you that because if you look
38:30
Speaker 15: at a standard GP consultation, you get a Manicare rebate
38:34
Speaker 15: of forty four dollars if you actually have the Albaneasy
38:39
Speaker 15: top ups in metro areas, it would be seventy dollars
38:42
Speaker 15: in remote areas of b eighty six dollars. But the
38:44
Speaker 15: AMA recommended f which is based on the cost of
38:47
Speaker 15: running a GP practice, is one hundred and five dollars
38:50
Speaker 15: for that service. So why would a GP practice that
38:53
Speaker 15: doesn't fully volke bill now actually take the money because
38:56
Speaker 15: the money.
38:57
Speaker 6: Is not there.
38:58
Speaker 2: I'll over there, gents, thank you very much. Out of
39:01
Speaker 2: the rake a former Green's member who went to the
39:05
Speaker 2: walls being expelled because she has been standing up for
39:08
Speaker 2: women's rights and just another day in crime riddled Brighton
39:12
Speaker 2: and Victoria, eighteenage girls likeing to survive after crashing a
39:16
Speaker 2: stolen car. That's coming out. Welcome back now to this
39:24
Speaker 2: major war inside the Greens over trans rites, with former
39:28
Speaker 2: party members alleging the rise of an intolerant trans and
39:31
Speaker 2: queer faction dominating internal politics. Critics claim this faction silence's
39:36
Speaker 2: dessent and marginalizes women's voices, particularly those who raise concerns
39:41
Speaker 2: about gender ideology. The dispute highlights growing tensions between traditional
39:47
Speaker 2: progressive values and radical identity politics within the Greens. Here
39:52
Speaker 2: to give us her take on what's growing on from
39:54
Speaker 2: a long time time Green's member Helen Lewis, who I
39:57
Speaker 2: might add, was unceremoniously expelled from the party after she
40:01
Speaker 2: attended that very same rally as our good friend Laurendini. Helen,
40:05
Speaker 2: welcome to the program. Thank you for joining me. I mean,
40:08
Speaker 2: is this a purge?
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Speaker 6: Do you think?
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Speaker 9: Oh, totally a purge. And Adam band who's of course
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Speaker 9: not an MP anymore, his media manager did tweet at
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Speaker 9: one stage that it was his aim to get rid
40:25
Speaker 9: of turfs or that means I don't know what the
40:31
Speaker 9: letters all stand for, but it means anyone who doesn't
40:33
Speaker 9: agree moleheartedly with the trans rights lobby. So yeah, So
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Speaker 9: Adam Bant's media manager stated quite publicly that he wanted
40:42
Speaker 9: to get rid of us. And it has been a purge.
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Speaker 9: We've seen that. I was a member of the Victorian Greens,
40:49
Speaker 9: and gradually we've seen that's been taken over by people
40:55
Speaker 9: from the queer faction of the Greens.
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Speaker 2: Helen, I think it stands for trans exclusionary, radical feminist.
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Speaker 2: But I mean, we've both been around the game a
41:09
Speaker 2: long time. I mean standing up for women's rights used
41:12
Speaker 2: to be the mainstay of the left. My side finally
41:15
Speaker 2: got its tack together and supports the rights of women
41:17
Speaker 2: and girls to spaces of our own and sport of
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Speaker 2: our own. And just about the time women get there
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Speaker 2: and they get a fair go. We don't want to
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Speaker 2: leg up. We just don't want to be held back.
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Speaker 2: We get a fair go. And now everything's upside down
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Speaker 2: and we can just as well expect to walk into
41:33
Speaker 2: a toilet with other women or a bunch of blokes.
41:36
Speaker 2: I mean, when you join the Greens, Helen, what prompted
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Speaker 2: you to join the Greens?
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Speaker 6: What made the decision for you?
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Speaker 8: Well?
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Speaker 9: I was a Greeny, I was an activist in the
41:50
Speaker 9: environmental movement. I've done a lot of tree planting, propagation.
41:54
Speaker 9: I want to see nature preserved and for that to
41:59
Speaker 9: have a a very important part of Green's policy, whereas
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Speaker 9: now it's hardly talked about. Maybe you might get some
42:11
Speaker 9: of the MP's making a statement if they have to,
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Speaker 9: but people running the party don't. It's just not a
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Speaker 9: thing anymore. And if anybody has attended the state party's
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Speaker 9: ruling bodies called State Council, they'll be able to see
42:27
Speaker 9: the word environment just doesn't get mentioned. So yes, it's
42:30
Speaker 9: all about identity. Politics now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it used to be a conservation party, you know,
42:38
Speaker 2: and a farm as a conservationist. So I think most
42:41
Speaker 2: Australians are We've got a beautiful national natural environment, but
42:45
Speaker 2: it's not like that now. It's been overtaken by a
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Speaker 2: really radical hard edge. Is that going to be where
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Speaker 2: the Greens go from here on in? I mean, do
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Speaker 2: you ever see the Greens pulling back and becoming more
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Speaker 2: like the party of Bob Brown that it once was
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Speaker 2: that you joined?
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Speaker 9: Sadly no, I think more and more people like me
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Speaker 9: who were just ordinary members who had Green's values from
43:06
Speaker 9: a while ago, are leaving. So some of us have
43:10
Speaker 9: been expelled, some resigned, some just don't pay their next
43:14
Speaker 9: year's fees to.
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Speaker 6: Remain a member of the party.
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Speaker 9: And for those people there's probably not much of a
43:23
Speaker 9: record mat about why they left, but I think we
43:26
Speaker 9: all know. I wouldn't be surprised myself if about half
43:29
Speaker 9: of the party members have left over this takeover by
43:34
Speaker 9: transgender and queer rights people. That's just my gz wow.
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Speaker 9: So it's definitely not the party I joined.
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Speaker 6: Thank you for joining me, Helen.
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Speaker 2: I really appreciate you coming on the show, and I
43:50
Speaker 2: think you and I are be surprised as a lot.
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Speaker 2: We will agree on, thanks Helen, particularly on women's rights
43:56
Speaker 2: and conservation too. After the rate when the magister throws
43:58
Speaker 2: their hands at the here and says thing can be
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Speaker 2: done to reform a read a repeat juvenile offended despite
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Speaker 2: four hundred chargers.
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Speaker 6: What's wrong with our justice system?
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Speaker 2: Plus more revelations on Australia's disturbing childcare crisis.
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Speaker 6: Welcome back that case.
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Speaker 2: In Victoria, or a magistrate just throws their hands in
44:22
Speaker 2: the air, you can wonder why people think the whole
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Speaker 2: crime fin's been lost. In Victoria front page to Day
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Speaker 2: of the Herald Son, the story is of a teenager
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Speaker 2: who spent some six hundred days in detention for more
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Speaker 2: than four hundred crimes, including aggravated burglary, dangers, driving and trespass.
44:38
Speaker 2: That when this is a fourteen year old kid, well,
44:41
Speaker 2: yesterday he was released by the judge who admitted another
44:45
Speaker 2: court order isn't going to stop him. You wanted me
44:48
Speaker 2: to discuss this and a bit more. Victorian Former Victorian
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Speaker 2: homicide detective Charlie Posina. Charlie, thank you, I mean no
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Speaker 2: bones about it. There is a crime crisis in Victoria.
44:58
Speaker 2: You've got machete attacks, home invasions, theft on mass from
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Speaker 2: shopping centers. But this case and this kid just walking free.
45:08
Speaker 2: Why is the court system failing us?
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Speaker 8: Well, obviously the whole system's broken in relation to it.
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Speaker 16: He look at all the charges this guy was on
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Speaker 16: and they even plea bargaining from my num robbery back
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Speaker 16: then to a robbery.
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Speaker 8: Over three hundred charges withdrawn because of his age. He
45:26
Speaker 8: is a refugee on a refugee visa. That doesn't say
45:29
Speaker 8: about his family situation and what's happening in regards what's
45:34
Speaker 8: the care facidity once he's out on the street. These
45:37
Speaker 8: courts put rehabilitation well before public safety and it's a disgrace.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think you're absolutely right. I'm in four hundred charges.
45:46
Speaker 2: We've got that case in Brighton overnight. You know, six
45:51
Speaker 2: young girls in a car, all teenagers, all should not
45:54
Speaker 2: be driving. Horrific accident. I think we probably got some
45:57
Speaker 2: footage there we can show people accident. They fortunately no
46:02
Speaker 2: one was killed. They walk away, but I mean they
46:03
Speaker 2: could have hit a car, they could have hit pedestrians.
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Speaker 2: I mean this is a common occurrence now in Melbourne,
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Speaker 2: very much so.
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Speaker 8: And you wonder why this community is in fear.
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Speaker 16: And this idiocy of saying the government's saying, oh, we're
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Speaker 16: going on police advice. That's why we leave until September.
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Speaker 16: What police advice would that be?
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Speaker 8: What?
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Speaker 16: We're not ready for it yet, that's ridiculous. They're blaming
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Speaker 16: the police. We never hear what the police advice is.
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Speaker 16: And since when there's the government go on the police advice? Anyway,
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Speaker 16: they'll do as they police. It's a nonsense. Celebrit till September.
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Speaker 6: You're picking up.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just sorry jumping in there. You're picking up
46:42
Speaker 2: the machete issue too, because you're right the ban. The
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Speaker 2: premier likes to say there's a band. The band doesn't
46:47
Speaker 2: come in place until September. But we've got a bloke
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Speaker 2: who basically has had an amputation lost their hand in
46:55
Speaker 2: a machete attack over the weekend. But listen to this
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Speaker 2: response from the week week from you have a listen.
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Speaker 17: This attack that we saw on the weekend was just horrific.
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Speaker 17: And if I can pause for a moment and extend
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Speaker 17: my thoughts to the victim and their family who was
47:15
Speaker 17: a horrific experience and I wish you know their thoughts
47:19
Speaker 17: should be with them as they go through that recovery.
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Speaker 2: We don't want to pause an extender condolences. We don't
47:25
Speaker 2: want hand ringing Charlie. I mean she she went out
47:28
Speaker 2: there and announced a ban, And if the band was
47:31
Speaker 2: in place and the police were able to do their jobs,
47:33
Speaker 2: there's every chance this bloke tonight would still have their hand.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, very much so.
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Speaker 16: And all the words in the world aren't kind of
47:41
Speaker 16: stop And I'm sick of hearing you come out and say, oh,
47:43
Speaker 16: this is a disgrace.
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Speaker 8: It's terrific.
47:45
Speaker 16: Even the attack in the Heir shopping center up at
47:47
Speaker 16: Bendigate where she said, oh, I didn't take my children there.
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Speaker 8: Well, what about the victims? And I'd be rude about this?
47:54
Speaker 8: The article about this body young kid and they never touch.
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Speaker 16: On the victims. It's all about the offender. And what
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Speaker 16: about the victims? Where's the accountability on these magistrates? They
48:03
Speaker 16: throw their hands up in the air. All the courts
48:05
Speaker 16: is to deserve.
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Speaker 2: Well, just quickly on the issue of childcare, how is
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Speaker 2: it even now, after all the stuff we've learned the
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Speaker 2: last couple of months, that someone being investigated for child
48:16
Speaker 2: sex offenders can still keep their working with children. Check,
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Speaker 2: that's got to go. Why can't the government fix that?
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Speaker 8: Well they can, they can. It's laziness and it's.
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Speaker 16: Non negotiable when children, the elderly, and violence against women.
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Speaker 16: They are the three major issues. Are we going to
48:32
Speaker 16: deal with this government? And they've got the head in
48:35
Speaker 16: the sand and they can just do it. They just
48:37
Speaker 16: kicked one hundred and thirty five dollars for a worker,
48:40
Speaker 16: a free for a volunteer, but there's no follow up.
48:42
Speaker 8: I just got mine renew not that long ago. Just
48:45
Speaker 8: took my photograph center back in Away we go.
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Speaker 16: No further police checks and police get people get in
48:51
Speaker 16: trouble over that period of time.
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Speaker 8: It's going to be continual police checks every time there's renewal.
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Speaker 16: They've got to get better on what they're doing to
48:58
Speaker 16: protect the community more so than vulnerable.
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Speaker 2: Gotta get tough, Gotta get tough. Got to leave it
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Speaker 2: there though, Charlie, thank you for some common sense.
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Speaker 6: At the end of the night. That's it for me.
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Speaker 2: Jameson first and up next, see you tomorrow.