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BONUS EPISODE: Pgh Sports Current Events - June 2025 · Pittsburgh Sports Memories

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hello, and welcome to another edition of Pittsburgh Sports Memories, the current events part of our podcast.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_01: As usual, I'm your co-host, Steve Word.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm joined by Tim Hannon.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh we'll jump right into it here.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_01: Not a lot.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like we're kind of getting into the dead part of the sports year, huh?
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_01: Here, Tim.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_01: Correct.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_01: So uh what did happen was Mike Sullivan got fired.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, long time coming.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_01: We'd kind of wondered when it was gonna happen.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, he now is the head hockey coach of the New York hockey rangers.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, that was that was the most predictable one.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it just was because the Rangers had such a disappointing season.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_00: You know, they were in the conference finals last season, and then this year they didn't even make the playoffs.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_00: You knew that that was gonna happen.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_01: And they have a goalie.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_01: They have a good goalie.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, if they can add some speed, they'll play his style of game and they'll probably make the playoffs, I would hope.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_01: So who was their coach?
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_01: Pity or La Violette.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_01: Was it so?
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  SPEAKER_01: They're kind of going with the uh strategy coaches.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we'll see.
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  SPEAKER_01: I hope it worked out.
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  SPEAKER_01: We wish them the best.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, Mike Sullivan, a classy guy, really was, was here a long time.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_01: What was it 10 years?
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_01: 10 yeah, 10 years.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_01: 10 years.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's that's like 30 years in any other coach in any other sport.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and he took out a billboard to thank the fans.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_01: I just saw it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It said, Thank you, fans, cup families forever.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_01: What a class act, Tim.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, wow.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he'll he'll be missed.
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  SPEAKER_00: His his legacy in Pittsburgh is forever secure.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I like what Kyle Dubas said, you know, because they're like, well, what if he goes somewhere else and wins?
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, well, it doesn't, it doesn't really matter.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't this wasn't a right or wrong move based on what happens to Sullivan after this.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_00: This was just all based on where this team is versus you know where another team might be.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_00: So it really has nothing to do with, you know, should we have kept them or shouldn't we have?
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  SPEAKER_00: It it just wasn't gonna work anymore.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it just for some reason hockey and basketball coaches have a shelf life.
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  SPEAKER_01: Even Phil Jackson had to move on after and won more championships with the Lakers.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is that and the Bulls haven't won diddley poo since you know but if he would have stayed if the we were he would have stayed with the Bulls, he wouldn't have.
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  SPEAKER_00: It just wouldn't have made sense for him to stay with the Bulls when they were rebuilding, and it wouldn't have made sense for Sullivan to stay with the Penguins.
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  SPEAKER_01: So he could go there and win two more cups with them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wouldn't surprise me.
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  SPEAKER_01: Especially because they have a goalie, and that's the thing he was missing here was a goalie, and they they have that Shisterkin, and they'll they'll they'll be fine.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I hope he doesn't just because it's the Rangers, but but yes, again, like I said, his legacy in Pittsburgh is secure.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_00: He's he's the greatest coach in Penguin's history, one of the greatest coaches maybe in Pittsburgh sports history.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_00: I I I I think I think his legacy is Yeah, I guess we never I never really thought about that.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_01: Is he the I guess you know there really isn't any comparables to him?
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_01: I mean uh Badger Bob, I guess that's it, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: One season.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh yeah, Badger Bob was great, but he was Scotty Bowman, Badger Bob.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Bowes Mom won a cop.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean, yeah, you don't you don't have a lot of other don't forget about the immortal Kevin Constantine.
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  SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, he wasn't terrible.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_01: Kevin Eddie Johnson, Kevin Constantine kind of probably like the same thing, like mediocre coaches that yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, to be fair, the bar's not very high, but but Sully's definitely at the top of that list.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, oh, by the way, the other Mike Sullivan left town too, the uh quarterback coach of the Steeler.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_01: No word if he left the you know uh mediocre quarterback coach family is forever, but uh Mason Rudolph for quarterback.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_01: I told him.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_01: No.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um anyway, uh who will be the Penguins' next head coach, Tim?
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I have no idea.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_01: Kyle Dubas has a timeline of early June, which means maybe they'll get us something the next to talk about next time.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but it hasn't been made yet.
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  SPEAKER_01: Maybe he'll string us out like another person that we're gonna talk about later this podcast.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Mitch Love.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you know any of these people?
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_01: Mitch Love, he's assistant coach with the Capitals, he works with defensemen.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_01: Jay Woodcraft, he coached the Oilers to the finals in 2022, kind of like a Dan Balsmo, but then he got fired the very next season.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, some guy named DJ Smith uh coached the Maple Leafs from 2015-2019.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure if that was if he has a dubus connection from there.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_01: And it right now that DJ Smith is assistant with the Kings.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_01: I really don't know enough about these guys to make an educated guess, or maybe it's somebody that hasn't been mentioned.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um, maybe it'll be somebody that's like an assistant, like an up-and-comer.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, again, this is the coach of who's the coach of Wilkesbury.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's that would be the wouldn't that be classic?
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_01: Is Eddie Johnson still alive?
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: He is.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's like 90, but he could do it.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_01: Where's no Eugene Ubiraco's dead, isn't he?
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  SPEAKER_01: I think.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, um uh moving on to uh the pirates, and boy, they have not played well.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh Paul Skeens.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh there's lots of there's these weird, you know, you see these, and you wonder if they're clickbait headlines or not, but I keep saying is Paul Keen skeins to be traded?
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_01: Should the Paul skins should the pirates trade Paul Schienes in like a Herschel Walker type move?
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um my I I don't think they work in baseball like these Herschel Walker type trades.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_01: I it just doesn't seem unless you're going to get like a bunch of people that are even if they were currently good players, I don't know.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_01: I just babe Ruth just sticks out in my mind.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_01: It seems like every time you make a trade like this, at best you'll break even.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_01: And you might as well keep this guy.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_00: He's definitely a surefire winner, but so so from a from a baseball perspective, you're right.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like the those Herschel Walker trades don't really work out in any sport.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like when the Penguins traded Yager, you know, it's like like what team is gonna be remember, you're only trading with one team.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what team has enough quantity to give you for that one quality?
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_00: It just never that those trades never work out, period, except for Herschel Walker.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_00: That was like the only thing.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_01: Well, he got he got I didn't they get draft picks with that too.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_00: They did, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: A bunch of draft picks that turned into their dynasty.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_01: But then, but football is how you build your team with draft picks.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_01: He already Yeah, the the baseball, it doesn't seem to work out that way or whatever.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_00: No, so from a baseball perspective, for for from like a roster building perspective, it doesn't make any sense.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_00: I think they should do it because it's the right thing to do morally.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like they're there or you're gonna make a moral case for this?
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, because how is it uh sell me on how it is immoral to keep it?
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: Because they've made it clear that they're not going to invest anything in trying to build the team around Paul Skeens.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_00: They're not gonna try to build a winner, they're not gonna try to use him.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's a generational star, they're not gonna try to do anything with that.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_00: They're just gonna milk him for the next three or four years to try to, you know, well, more people will come to the games on the days he pitches, but they're just gonna tank his first or his next however many seasons and and just make him play in baseball prison for a couple years.
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  SPEAKER_00: Basically, I mean, but so what's the point?
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_00: What's the point of keeping him?
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there's no point.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_00: You're not gonna they're they're not gonna try to do anything with him.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: So why not let him go start his career playing for a real team?
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_00: That would be the right thing to do, and the pirates will do it because it is the right thing to do.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_01: I don't agree with you being the right thing to do.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_01: I think the right thing to do is to keep the best player you have and try and build around them.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_00: But they're not gonna do that.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_00: I agree with you, but they've already they they they've they've stood on top of a giant mountain and signaled we are absolutely 100% not gonna do that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Was it a giant mountain of uh those bucko bricks?
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_00: Of broken bucko bricks.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're not gonna do it.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_00: So, so if they're not going to do that, okay, well then give the guy a chance to play for a real team rather than just holding on to him for attendance.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_01: Can I bring up you the you know, can I go with my Rod Sterling?
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_01: Case in point, Steve Carlton is a perfect example.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_01: He is the reincarnation of Steve Carlton, though Steve Carlton's still alive.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um a great pitcher who my dad randed and raved about, who my dad saw in the early 70s.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_01: The Phillies owner at that time was cheap.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_01: They used to say he wouldn't pay the 12 apostles to run a relay race down Broad Street.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it was just terrible.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_01: But my dad used to just said, I think one year the Phillies won 50 games and Steve Carleton won 20.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_01: Half of them, yeah.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's insane.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I mean, but then you know, he was around in I think what year did they win?
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_01: 80, 80.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_01: I think he was still on the Phillies when they won the World Series.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: So it can happen, Tim.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_00: I mean it it it's not gonna happen for this team.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_00: I like they're just they're not going, dude.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like I I don't I don't know what they're gonna do.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_00: You never know.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe they'll sell maybe Bob will sell the team.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe af maybe there will be a lockout after next season and they'll get a salary cap.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, and maybe I'll win a million dollars and be the third string quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: If they change owners, then yes, keep them.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_00: Then I'm all for it.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_00: Even if there's a salary cap and a salary floor, then keep them.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but under the current circumstances, they they've made it in abundantly clear.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_00: They're not interested in trying to do anything.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_00: They're not interested in trying to they won't even sign uh free agents for more than a one-year deal.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they haven't done that Yvonne Nova, the last person, and I think that was 2000.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: So he gets up there, he pitches, you know, six or seven great innings, and they can't score runs and he gets losses.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: But like, why?
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_00: That's so unfair to him.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_00: I just think it's I just it's yeah, the right thing to do is let him go play for somebody else if you're not going to try to do anything.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: You're just wasting him.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: You're just wasting his time.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I disagree with you on that one, Tim.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_01: I I think you keep them, and I think they will try.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_01: I I I don't I mean, as much as they try in anything.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe they're just I think they're just biding their time for next season.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I think they're not, they're not gonna try.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_00: They never try.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what more proof you need that they're not gonna try as you as as a wise man once said, do or don't do.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_01: There is no try.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: There definitely is no try on that team.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so moving back to hockey and better topics.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, who's better, Ovechkin or Crosby, Tim?
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like now or just over the question.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_01: Right now, right now, you tell me, sir.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_01: You're under oath.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_01: I reclaimed my time.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're different kinds of players.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Ovechkin's much more of a pure goal scorer.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_01: I can handle the truth, by the way.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: Crosby's more of a playmaker.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_00: I I think they're just different players.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: I I think they're both great.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_00: I think they're both all.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_01: Is this like a uh Joe Montana Tom Brady argument?
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: I I think it's more like a like a I don't know, Barry Sanders, Earl Campbell.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like different styles.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_00: Different styles, different, yeah.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, but both really good.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: So um, I don't know.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: I I you know I think they're both great.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_00: I I obviously I probably lean Crosby because I'm the Penguins fan, if I had to rank them, but I think they're both they're both.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_01: The Vetchkin has the goals, he's the all-time goal scorer.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_00: Which is amazing.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_00: I just I never thought anybody would break that record, especially does that make them better than Lemieux?
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I know he just stands at that dot and fires it in.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: He's a kind of a one-trick pony, but he did check people and he plays a physical game more than Mario ever did.
• 12:10
  unknown: Yeah.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_01: I still think Mario one-on-one is the best one-on-one goal scorer.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_00: Just it's so hard to compare Air Like.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I always thought like playmaker, Gretzky is one of the best playmakers.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_01: Crosby's on par with Gretzky in that way.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_01: But Ovechkin scoring that many goals in this puck era where the goalies were better and had crazy equipment and stuff.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_01: I respect that.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_01: I he's gotta be top five players.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you can you can always argue among the top five.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, who's your top five?
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Gretzky, Lemieux, Ovechkin, Crosby.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, probably Bobby Ork.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Bobby Org, Guy LaFleur.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, a lot of people would put Gordy Howell in there too.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: We got I guess you gotta throw goalie in there, Patrick Waugh, Ken Dryden.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what makes sports fun.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna lean.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna say I'm gonna be contrarian.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna say Ovechkin's better than Crosby, at least right now.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: Now now I will say this, Crosby has way more cops than Ovechkin because once again, maybe the his playmaking led to more cops.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_01: But Ovechkin does have one cop.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_00: Ovechkin has a better team around him right now, too, than Crosby does.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_00: A much better team.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I will say this.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_01: Crosby's played on a lot crappier teams at the beginning and end of his career than I think Ovechkin did.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the Capitals, give them credit.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_00: They really they've really been competitive for his entire career.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: Well, moving back to uh football here, uh Justin Fields.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh he had a bad practice with the Jets, according to Connor Hughes of S E N S N Y.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: I guess that's a New York sports news thing.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um he got sacked a bunch and only completed check downs.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_01: His one long pass was incomplete, inaccurate.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um buyers remorse by the Jets.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's way too early.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: Well, as we all know, a bad practice in May equates to that guy's never gonna work out at all.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, but I mean I will say this Justin Fields has not shown great accuracy under pressure and in the red zone.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: And that he kind of reminds me of Cordell Stewart, like those quarterbacks.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: I've seen this before, like Kenny Pickett's the same way.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: Like when he gets inside the red zone, you gotta be accurate and have a strong arm.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: And um Justin Fields has a strong arm, but not so accurate.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I I I don't I don't know.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like Russell Wilson was the opposite.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_01: He didn't have a strong arm, but he was very accurate, but he just couldn't get the ball there.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: Inside the red zone, that ball has to be pinpoint accurate and fast, making a fast decision.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_01: So that I will say, like, I wasn't sure if Justin Fields could ever develop into that.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_01: I thought maybe he just had some bad coaching.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think the coach, it seems like the Jets now have a real coaching staff.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_01: I thought that Sala was supposed to be, he was good on defense, but he could never figure out his offense, I guess.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_01: So we'll see if this guy, you know, can figure it out.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm actually rooting for Justin Fields.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_00: I liked him a lot, and I'm rooting for him.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_00: Unfortunately, if I have to make a prediction, it's that it's not gonna work out.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_01: Let's see if Eric Glenn, you know, uh he seemed to work well in Detroit.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like they had nothing on that defense, and he kind of patchworked it together to get them into the playoffs.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they they have they have the right coach.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: Fields seems like he could be a good quarterback, but it's not gonna work out, Steve, for one simple reason.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's the New York Jets.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, who owns them?
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: Woody Johnson.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it just doesn't matter.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't, they're just they're the Jets.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: They're the Jets.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: They're a joke.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_00: They'll always be a joke.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's not gonna work out.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: If I had Oh, when you hear Super Bowl winner, New York Jets, woo! The only time you hear that is in the Super Bowl III NFL films footage.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: The only time you'll hear that again is when the pirates start putting people around Paul Skeens to make him a team.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you know Woody Johnson got his money, right?
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_01: He inherited it.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: He you ever heard of a little company called Johnson and Johnson?
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, is that him?
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: He's one of the Johnsons, which sounds way too suggestive for anybody for this podcast.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_01: But yes, every time you buy a band-aid, Justin Fields get paid, I guess.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: Nice, nice.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_01: So buy more band-aids.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so Aaron Rodgers, Tim, I am sick of talking about him.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: I already hate him and he doesn't play for us yet.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: Can he just go away?
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even care.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_01: Don't play for us.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_01: Go play for the Saints.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: Please go.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Rodgers.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: If you listen to our podcast, please go to New Orleans.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_01: I will pay you five dollars to go play for New Orleans.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_01: I I will go whatever crazy retreat.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: You are completely.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_01: I'm with this is a fan rant.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: Just go away.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: Just go away.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_01: I I you know, you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: This is ridiculous.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_01: I realize you don't play for us, I realize you don't have a contract, but this is stupid.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_01: This is just stupid.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_01: If you don't want to be here, then don't be here.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: And it's stupid for Tomlin letting him play this long, play this game this long.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I don't get it.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: I don't, I don't I'm tired of talking about it too.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I agree.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: Just go, just go somewhere else, or just retire, or whatever you're gonna just do something, make some kind of decision.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: Or if you're gonna come here, just come here.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like well, he obviously doesn't want to do any of the OTAs, doesn't want to do this, doesn't want to do that.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, maybe you're done then.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe you're you know, I will say this.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_01: At least Barry Foster, we're you know, for a future podcast, we're watching a clip of Barry Foster who just said, I won't be back next season.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: At least I totally respect Barry Foster.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: Barry Foster never came back and played another down of football.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: Why can't Aaron Rodgers just do that?
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, I'm done.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_01: I'm out.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like, is he still getting paid?
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: Are the Jets still paying his contract?
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm sure he has guaranteed money.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he had to have made enough money over his career.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he doesn't need this.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: And they're not gonna win a Super Bowl with him.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: They're not going to.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: No, that's the thing.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: They're not a contender anyway, so why does it matter?
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but they they don't think that.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: They think that they are.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: The brain thrust at the Stewers thinks that if they have Aaron Rodgers, then they can compete with Mahomes and Lamar and Burrow and all the all these, you know, other AFC Josh Allen, all these other AFC quarterbacks, if they have 42-year-old Aaron Rodgers.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: That's what they think.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_01: Well, they're not a quarterback away.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: They're they need, you know, th well, maybe they got a running back, you know, and maybe they got, you know, they need help on defense still.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: It it's a team, it's a team that that could be in position to be a contender in a couple of years.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: They need they need the right, they need a quarterback.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: It reminds me a little bit of the early 2000s Steelers, where you know, when they got Ben, then that was like the the piece that was missing, and they became a really dominant team there for a while.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: And this this era Steelers team, they have enough pieces where they could do that.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: They just need a quarterback, and they're probably not going to get that until next year, regardless of if Aaron Rodgers signed.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: So, again, what's the point?
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's it for now.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: Hopefully, by the next time we do this in June, we'll know who the Penguins coach is and the Steelers starting quarterback.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for tuning in.
• 19:47
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• 19:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, as usual, thanks for both me and Tim.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_01: We're grateful for everybody who listens to our podcast and stuff.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: And uh we'll see you again next time in June, and uh definitely be able to report that Aaron Rogers now, the first duo quarterback.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_01: I will have to sit here and watch this guy play three games until he gets hurt.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, catch you next time.