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  Do you hear that listeners? The Young are at the gates,
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  meaning only one thing. We're talking about Suffs the Musical on today's episode
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  of the BSB Podcast. But before we dive into the story and characters,
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  like, follow, and subscribe to us at BSB.insider on all social media platforms.
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  Spoiler warning, if you haven't seen Suffs the Musical yet and wish
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  to remain uninfluenced.
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  Pause this video and come back once you shed every tear in your body.
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  Joining us today is a fellow Great American Bitch,
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  Emily Brown. Thank you so much for being here.
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  anytime.
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  So much like our listeners, I'm sure,
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  Emily, you heard about this musical first from the never ending,
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  never ending rants of RJ Miller-Zelinko,
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  is that correct?
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  That is ~ completely correct, yes.
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  Yes, yes.
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  R.J. loved this musical. I mean,
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  we did
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  see it in previews, I will say this,
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  but even before previews, I remember that,
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  I don't wanna say this was the reason we went to New York,
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  but I know that for a definitive fact,
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  the moment that he got his hands on one of the songs,
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  the tickets were purchased for New York so quickly.
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  And then it's just been his personality trait for the past two years.
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  Which isn't a bad thing, RJ. That's not a bad thing.
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  I'm not trying to throw you under the bus,
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  but you did.
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  Not at all.
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  You loved this musical from the inception of you learning about it.
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  Yeah, I don't know why.
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  You don't know why?
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  Like that early
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  on, truly, like when I look back,
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  I'm like, the only reason that I knew this musical even existed was because
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  of Jen Koala.
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  Okay, we're
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  I mean, fair enough.
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  gonna pause for a
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  moment. True, first off, that's a great reason.
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  But second off, RJ, we're gonna pause for a moment.
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  You love history. You love, not just history,
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  you love history that is like the darker side of history.
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  That is like your bread and butter.
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  You wake up and you just feed on that stuff.
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  And this is a story that is, while it is very important and it's very impactful
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  and it ultimately has a good-ish ending,
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  a good-ish in that like some things are resolved here.
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  It is also a really dark time in American history and it was a never ending fight
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  that we're still fighting. like,
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  this is like, I, the moment you sent me just the picture of it,
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  I was like, yeah, of course. Like this is,
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  this is your stuff. So like, don't say like,
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  you didn't know why we all know why.
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  Emily knew why. Like
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  We knew I.
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  we knew why, but like that's not,
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  there's nothing wrong with that.
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  so that being said then Emily going into the production at the Fisher theater.
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  You didn't have much knowledge other than what RJ shared with you,
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  is that correct?
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  Correct. I had listened to a lot of Act One,
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  ~ but I got ADHD, dog,
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  and things happen. And so I hit a lot...
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  You
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  Yes, continue. Sorry.
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  So I
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  I hit a lot of the highlights,
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  but songs like Great American Bitch,
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  Let Mother Vote, like those, they stick with you.
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  And I also love like those historical based musicals.
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  So as soon as RJ said something,
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  I was like, okay, I'm here. I love this.
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  But not being able
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  to see it really kind of blocks off a lot that is offered.
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  And so when I was next to RJ and we were watching it,
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  I was like, whoa, this changes everything.
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  This changes how I was picturing it in my head.
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  So it was lovely. I liked kind of ~ going in,
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  not knowing much.
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  I feel like RJ we had the very much the same kind of intro maybe even more
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  so because we didn't even have act one to listen to we even have our ADHD there
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  to kick in gear and tell us not to listen to
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  Yeah.
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  it we just went in with one song one song in a dream and This was
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  one of the shows I'm trying to remember that trip.
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  We've been on so many trips to New York forgive us for being you know
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  Mmm.
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  You know snobby New Yorkers now no,
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  Mm-mm-mm.
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  but
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  ~
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  We, this was kind of the highlight of that trip.
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  Like we saw a lot of shows. We saw 10 shows.
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  I'm to remember what we saw. ~ But like this was a standout from the moment,
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  like from the moment that the show starts to the end,
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  you're on a historical roller coaster ~ that it really just,
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  it was one of my highlights as well,
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  which was surprising because I knew this was going to be your highlight,
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  RJ. But even I walked away pretty stunned about the show.
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  Yeah,
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  I mean, again, because nothing because it was literally previews,
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  which I'm not even sure we knew that it was previews till we got there
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  and they were like, yeah, we open next week.
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  there was no soundtrack.
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  There was no, there was literally,
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  might've literally just been a clip of great American Bitch I think that
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  was the only, they had like one song out one kind of video to like promote.
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  Right. And
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  ~ I recently found out that Great American Bitch was written
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  for the Broadway production but was not in the off Broadway production,
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  which this show took 10 years to get to Broadway.
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  So
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  Whoa.
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  very interesting that that is the song that kind of like lifted it
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  to like the Broadway space. anyway,
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  yeah, having not known anything about it aside from a couple actor names.
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  ~
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  Of course, like you just kind of get like knocked off your feet when you're like
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  not expecting anything and then it ends up being powerful.
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  And that knowledge from RJ Miller-Zelinko is brought to you by Suffs
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  the Broadway scripts. No,
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  I don't actually know if it's in there,
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  but
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  You
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  I had this handy. you know, you always have this handy.
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  Gotta show it off.
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  feel like this is
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  like a treasure, you know, you're both wearing your great American bitch hats.
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  have my book, you know. ~ But truthfully,
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  what I think is interesting and to kind of before we really dive into the story,
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  I think what we have to kind of look at too is what's going on with Broadway right
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  now.
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  Or like, would say in like the modern genre.
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  And there's a lot of history going on here.
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  You know, we have Hamilton, which is a more of a.
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  It's a it's a tale of what American history,
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  you know, we have ~ Gutenberg,
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  the musical, which is a part of history and
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  Mm-hmm.
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  fictionalized, you know I mean?
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  But this one really is like a more like true to.
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  like true to form, like true to earth story like that.
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  Were you expecting something more like Hamilton when you were going into this
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  or did you feel like you were like prepared for like a more traditional history
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  lesson?
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  I was certainly prepared for something more traditional.
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  ~ I won't lie, I felt a little guilty as a feminist learning a lot
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  of these things for the first time.
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  ~ But you don't,
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  they did such a great job of glazing that part of history over and they address
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  it in the musical. ~ That it's like,
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  yeah, no, it was tea parties. And like,
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  eventually, the men just decided to be nice.
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  And you think of the suffragettes in Mary Poppins.
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  And that's all you think about.
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  They wore big dresses and sashes,
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  and that's what they did. They walked around and they said nice things.
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  ~ And it's really nice to know that that cognitive dissonance
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  that you feel is real, because that existed,
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  but that's not what happened. And so the shock value of that alone
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  was
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  so crazy and so emotionally like stunning to me.
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  I'm openly weeping during intermission.
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  It's like, okay, here we are.
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  You know, I also, I was actually talking with one of the actresses from
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  The production Abigail Aziz, and one of the things that she mentioned
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  and that I also mentioned too is that you don't learn a lot about this
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  in history class. I remember this almost being like a footnote to a chapter,
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  you know? And when we saw it originally and I was writing my review and I had R.J.
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  look it over just because I was,
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  you know, I wanted to really do it this justice.
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  And one of the things that he brought up was like,
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  you know, the difference between suffragist and suffragette,
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  you know? And like all of these different things,
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  like they don't,
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  Like, I don't remember learning half of this stuff in history class.
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  And also that kind of tells you whoever wins tells the story,
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  you know? And while women got the right to vote,
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  did they actually win? That's a debate to have a different day.
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  But truthfully, like, RJ, did you remember learning about this in school?
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  Like, I don't remember having a huge section or knowledge about what
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  was happening to get, you know,
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  the right for women to vote.
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  So I didn't remember specifically,
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  because I think history class does kind of cover usually
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  ~ just a tad earlier than when this show is dated.
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  So like they're talking about Susan B.
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  Anthony, right? Which we
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  Yes.
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  know is Carrie ~ Katz ~ mentor.
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  So we get like the history earlier,
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  but then.
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  this more radical quote unquote behavior,
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  of course it makes sense to me that that gets swept under the rug.
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  But I do remember again, like you mentioned earlier,
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  me being like kind of liking the tragedies of history.
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  I do remember there being conversations around the force feeding that
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  happened and the fact that there was like kind of like
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  a subgroup of
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  suffragists versus kind of like the traditional ideology.
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  ~ Which I don't know if I saw,
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  I don't know if I learned that in school or ~ actually if I remembered
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  it from visiting a local museum that Henry Ford,
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  who has an entire section based on suffragists,
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  the suffragist movement, but also specifically Alice Paul and this group of radical
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  suffragists. truly, I can't remember if I read it in a textbook or if I
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  saw it in real life, but I had like an inkling,
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  but not nearly the backstory for it all.
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  You know, when we went to the Henry Ford for the first time,
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  I had a tour guide named RJ Miller-Zelinko who walked me through the entire section,
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  You
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  giving me movies to watch and like things to look for and stuff.
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  But truthfully, yeah, I think that was probably one of the first times that
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  I really got in touch with it too.
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  And I would argue that I don't remember that from when going to Henry Ford when
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  I was a kid. All I remember is the Lincoln chair.
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  So like that just tells you what I was really interested in.
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  But there is like
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  The Henry Ford does talk about a lot of the darker pieces of history,
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  you know, and it doesn't shy away from that.
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  And I do think that's what the Suffs does really well,
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  you know, not the Suffs, Suffs,
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  the musical does really well is that it doesn't shy away from lot of these things.
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  It does talk about how there's two distinct approaches to getting the right
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  to vote and how they differ so much,
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  but also that that doesn't apply to everybody getting the right to vote.
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  And I do think that's one of the beauties of the show is that there is a lot of ~
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  I mean, they do, they show kind of the dark side of how this happened,
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  including like you said, RJ, like the force feeding and stuff
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  and the imprisonment because some of these women weren't being quote unquote,
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  respectful or traditional to what the men wanted.
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  And so that is truly one of the beautiful things about Suffs.
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  what about maybe this story really,
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  I guess, like this is so hard to say.
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  What spoke to you, Emily? I'm,
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  know, cause like this is
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  yeah.
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  a story that impacts your, who you are right now as a person as well,
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  even though maybe it's not something that you're thinking about,
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  but it's something that has led to you being able to be who you are.
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  Like,
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  What is
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  yeah.
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  the of the weight of that legacy as you're watching the story?
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  ~ I mean, so, so many things. I feel like I could talk about so many themes
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  and so many moments. ~ But there is one that has like stuck with me
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  the longest and hit me the hardest.
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  And it's something that they sing often and two different characters during
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  the show. And it's ~ the lyrics,
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  why are you fighting me? I'm not the enemy.
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  And I'm like, every time I hear it.
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  in like ~ the multiple times it's kind of thrown into songs really quickly
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  ~ because it's something that once again with every historical musical
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  it feels like we're talking about today and ~ how organization
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  is so strong and how people can be fighting for the same thing in different ways
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  and how, yeah, organizing just goes such a long way.
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  And
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  it's so hard because people are so stuck.
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  And you always think that you are the one with the right idea and you
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  are the one with the most effective way to do things.
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  But what you don't get is the life experiences of ~ the older woman who's been doing
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  this for a long time, the younger woman who's coming in with new ideas,
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  the woman from a different race that has completely different life experiences from
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  you. But you're all going towards the same goal.
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  You're all marching towards the same goal.
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  but you're still
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  Callback.
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  clashing along the way, but you're still walking the same direction.
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  It's so, that's what's hit me the hardest.
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  You know, I think when you talk about things like that,
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  like kind of like how you're all headed towards the same goal,
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  what I do love about the show is that I'm thinking of the part right
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  at the beginning, basically, I mean,
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  early on, but when they're, you know,
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  they're getting their, their movement together to march on Washington
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  and their approach is seen as almost crazy by the older women.
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  Like you can't do this. Like you have
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  Mm-hmm.
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  to be quiet, but it also is the first time that it's really gotten attention.
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  You know what I mean? And like,
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  I love that there's this moment of realization
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  for the older women who have been doing this for a while.
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  Not that they approve of it, specifically Carrie Chapman Catt
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  You see her realize of maybe it's OK to have a different approach to this,
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  even though it's not the approach I want.
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  know what I mean? And she still fights against it.
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  Don't get me wrong.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  I do love that this moment of just being like that,
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  can, fighting or like pushing forward looks different for everybody.
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  Yes. Yep. So many different perspectives.
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  I think.
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  Yeah, the direct parallels,
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  especially in today's time, like,
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  I mean, just like open up like turn on the TV or open up Google
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  and like lately the chatter about specifically not even rights,
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  but just voting rights and gerrymandering and redistricting and all of these things.
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  It's crazy to me that.
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  were seemingly going backwards or ~ undoing things that we've already established.
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  All the while,
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  like looking at this, you know,
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  historical movement and being like,
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  it took so much work to build up and build off of these things.
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  And yet in today's time, it seems so easy to just click the undo button.
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  ~ no matter what side of whatever you're on,
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  like it's just, it took what? 60 years
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  for like women, not in, I won't even say women,
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  like specifically white women,
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  ~ to get the right to vote. like,
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  right now we're undoing voting rights every month,
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  it seems for somebody, ~ or making it more difficult to vote.
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  and that's just crazy because that,
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  mean, that took place over a hundred years ago.
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  So.
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  I always feel
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  It's so close and yet so far.
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  the line, every time I've seen this show,
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  I always feel the line in my soul at the very end,
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  ~ which I forget who specifically says it,
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  but she just goes, I'm tired. And she's reached the point where she's just
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  so exhausted
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  Mm.
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  and they're like, yeah, you have to keep pushing on.
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  Because I feel like as a gay man who just wants everybody in the
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  ~ LGBT population to be okay,
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  it's exhausting.
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  to keep, and like, you have to keep pushing.
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  And like, if it's not this cause,
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  it's another, cause we all push for equality for everybody.
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  But it's like, you are exhausted.
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  And like, to me, like, that's the part where I'm just like,
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  that is the resignation. Like,
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  as RJ loves to say, the call to action,
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  know, being like, that you're exhausted,
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  but you do have to keep pushing on because there's still a fight to be had.
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  And that is a part of like building that.
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  And so the parallels are just absolutely uncanny.
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  And it also makes me really sad that the fact that like,
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  We have a show kind of telling us like,
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  this is what happened not that long ago.
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  And A, first off, people weren't turning out the way I wanted them to.
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  Like you should turn out and see the show.
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  This is a show that everybody should see.
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  But also like we are doomed to repeat history if we don't learn from it.
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  And we're not learning from it clearly because here we are once again,
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  just like we're not, we're not so far removed that this shouldn't have weight
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  anymore.
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  And I think, like RJ said, like this is a very dark piece of history,
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  but I think the call to action at the end is very hopeful because yeah,
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  even though we didn't learn about it at school,
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  I'm learning about it right now and it's possible.
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  It's hard and it took decades and a lot of committed people,
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  but it's possible. There's a chance.
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  And that kind of like settled my soul about everything that's
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  happening. Like, yeah, okay.
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  No, I'm not gonna give up. It's fine.
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  I'm not going to prison. No one's arresting me.
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  So maybe it's not as bad as I think.
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  But also, on the flip side, I'm a white lady.
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  So it's hard. Things aren't hard because I'm a white lady.
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  It's hard to understand because I'm a white lady.
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  ~
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  No, but you're right. And I think that it is something that,
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  again,
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  There is hope that this, to keep going on,
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  obviously. I mean, I assume that's why RJ keeps going back for it,
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  is because it's the hope that maybe things will get better.
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  And it's a reminder, and within all the darkness,
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  while progress still has to happen,
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  progress has been made, we've come so far,
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  and hopefully we won't go back.
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  mean, RJ, I don't wanna speak for you,
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  but I'm assuming that is one of the reasons why you keep getting drawn back
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  to the story.
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  Yeah,
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  I mean, I think it's for two reasons.
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  One of them, because like deep down in my soul somewhere I'm an educator,
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  even though I didn't end there.
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  and a masochist.
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  And
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  I think that this show is just such a well put together history lesson that
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  is powerful because it does have that call to action at the end and it does have
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  the hopefulness of tomorrow, right?
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  And so I think if there's anything
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  It's carrying that to the next generation and the next generation.
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  mean, that's why one of, mean,
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  obviously I love so much of the music in this,
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  but specifically the March where they're kind of naming out each character saying
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  who they're doing it for, right?
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  I'm doing it for my mother, my sister,
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  my student, my niece, whoever.
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  ~ And so I think that intrinsically that's why I go.
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  And that's why I've taken different people every single time that I go.
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  Because that is, I think, my way of being like,
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  I want the people around me to know about this thing,
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  right? Because we might not know it or might not have learned it previously.
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  So this is the opportunity to do that.
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  Part of the brilliance I think of this show too is that and again,
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  I'm not trying to use Hamilton as comparison,
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  but here we go ~ Someone I recently talked to you mentioned about
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  how Hamilton while it has his name on it It's not actually about like
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  the American Revolution or about Hamilton himself,
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  but about everybody else that it's in his life ~ Which is
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  an interesting take Because I don't think that it goes nearly as deep as
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  it as you get also in this story with the people So while this is
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  a story about getting the right to vote,
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  I think that what?
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  I love about it is the moments of actually getting to understand the real women that
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  it's based on. Like, just to be like,
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  these aren't just people that you read about in history books.
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  These are people who want families or don't want families.
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  You know, these are people who,
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  you know, get upset and,
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  you know, and have emotions. And,
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  you know, I think that this is one of the reasons why I love Inez so much
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  is that because
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  She's somebody who is just like a vibrant person in real life,
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  but also somebody who was larger than life also in history,
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  but also somebody who, when she dies,
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  you feel like you've like, you've earned it.
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  Like sometimes I think with Hamilton,
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  like when Hamilton dies, I don't cry because I feel like sometimes like he hasn't,
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  like, I haven't spent enough time learning who Hamilton is other than just like
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  a philanderer. ~ but like there's something about these characters that
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  that are so real and soft because you're spending time with them both
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  on like a grand scale and like a microcosm scale.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Yeah, I think because of Hamilton's massive ensemble that then again,
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  a lot of them double up in Act Two,
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  it just feels like an overload.
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  And in Suffs you're like, all right,
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  here are the core five girls we're rooting for.
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  Here are some other people that show up a lot.
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  And then you get to know them the entire show.
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  And because it doesn't do the like Hamilton Act Two flip,
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  You also, after Inez's death, get to see the cascading effects of what that's doing
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  to their group when one of them is gone now.
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  ~ It is certainly not brushed aside and moved past.
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  And because you've gotten to know that core group,
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  you're seeing how they're dealing with it differently too,
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  especially when they're in prison,
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  when Alice Paul is talking about like,
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  we're doing it for Inez. And the other girls are like,
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  get her name out of your mouth.
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  I'm doing this for me, I'm doing this for everyone else.
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  It's like, whoa, okay, this is a very real fight that these girls are having,
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  these women are having. And I understand both sides of it because it's so raw,
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  because it's so real, because they're yelling at each other,
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  because their emotions are heightened,
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  because they're in the middle of this hunger strike.
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  I can see myself having that fight.
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  And I think we all have that, well,
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  maybe that's a grand generalization,
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  but we generally have a group of friends that we're close with,
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  right? Like everyone kind of has their people and I think the relationships that
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  we see built ~ on such a intense scale,
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  like obviously it's kind of, you know,
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  packed into this very short amount of time,
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  but you can just tell obviously based on the years that they spend together and.
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  ~
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  all of the things that they go through.
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  It's just like, you know the pain of losing someone that is close
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  to you and or someone who represents a movement,
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  right? Which, you know, we get the iconic photo,
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  which again, like what an awesome callback to reality.
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  I think that's, there's a difference and that's the difference too between when
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  we talk about comparing historical
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  documents and musicals, Hamilton versus Suffs.
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  Yes, Hamilton has all of like the cool choreography and like the,
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  you know, hip hop and making it super modern.
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  But Suffs just has the like, they're just like,
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  let me just drop this photo in front of you because this was a real human being that
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  died at a very young age doing what she believed in.
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  Even though she knew that she was terminally ill,
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  she kept going. She gave up her,
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  you know, basically her entire life or adult life.
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  for
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  women's rights, really. ~ And so I think,
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  yeah, we don't feel that, I mean,
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  we just saw Hamilton, right? And I was like,
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  there was no point in this where I was like,
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  wow, he like really did this thing for the people.
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  It kind of all feels a lot like he did this for himself,
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  right? Which we know, because legacy is a big theme in that show.
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  But ~ yeah, two very different,
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  but.
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  The Broadway-esque of it all, like Hamilton sells out for three weeks.
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  Suffs struggles to sell out,
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  or to sell, I shouldn't say even sell out,
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  ~ for two weeks. ~ But also the nature of politics.
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  You know, I do have to just say as well as you were talking about the show,
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  RJ, it crossed my mind that this reminds me kind of not in with story context,
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  the way it's presented of Parade,
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  which is interesting because I really loved that show too.
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  But like they actually use the real photos of people.
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  They used real experiences. It's more historically accurate and it's more
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  of like that gritty story. So it's interesting that
• 25:53
  Like, just in my head, was like,
• 25:54
  ~ there are other shows kind of like this in this capacity that
• 26:00
  are just equally as brilliant as Suffs.
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  And I just, you know, I had to share that,
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  Well, actually, one of my favorite shows that I believe has been lost
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  in the pandemic, but Hello Girls,
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  and it talks about, you know, I was going to bring this up.
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  It talks about the women that went overseas during World War I
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  to help connect phone calls because the women knew how to do it and
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  the men couldn't do it fast enough.
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  And so they sent the women over and they were like,
• 26:31
  ready to be on the front lines and then they found out what they were doing
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  was training men to be on the front lines.
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  And a big part of the end of the show is we have to get to the front lines because
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  if we're not there, they're going to say we weren't there at all.
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  And the point is I'm willing to put my life on the line for this country because
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  I want to vote. The big argument they're making is that men are willing
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  to die for the country, men get to vote.
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  I'm willing to die for my country so I can vote.
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  And I just, think the connection is so fantastic.
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  I think I called Suffs a pretty healthy mix between Hello Girls and Hamilton,
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  because Suffs has that more modern,
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  like rhythmic kind of ~ speech,
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  lines in the middle of ~ songs.
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  And Hello Girls feels like a very classic,
• 27:23
  more classic version of the music,
• 27:24
  but Hello Girls is fantastic. If you like Suffs.
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  please check out Hello Girls.
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  And hello girls, please do a tour.
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  Hello girls,
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  please, please go anywhere. I will buy anything.
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  I will travel anywhere. Bring it back.
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  I mean, seeing that it did just have a stage production last night as
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  a one night only kind of performance.
• 27:45
  Well, for you guys, it won't be last night.
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  May 8th, they had a performance.
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  But it seems that there seems to be something warming up for that,
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  I would say. But ~ before we run out of time,
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  I do just want to say, and I always want to give you guys a shout out as well.
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  Besides Inez, which RJ knows I've always loved Inez,
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  I do have to say for this production,
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  I was flabbergasted by how exceptional.
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  Lucy was comparatively and I know RJ you have such a sweet spot
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  for your your Broadway gales and that's fine You can love them all you want
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  and I'm not saying anything against them and she was still fantastic
• 28:19
  but Gwen Wood do it us for some reason was Just took it to a whole new level
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  and I don't know if it was because she reminded me of the girl from Bridgerton
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  who was a great actress, know,
• 28:29
  or if it was It
• 28:30
  It's so true.
• 28:32
  was like it was almost spot-on and just how like the mannerisms and everything
• 28:37
  So I do have to a shout out to Gwen Woods that just is like,
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  this was such a fantastic role for me.
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  RJ, we'll let Emily close this one out.
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  I'm let you go ahead and say, was there a standout performance from this production
• 28:49
  ~ boy,
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  for
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  you?
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  that's so, this cast works so well together.
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  It was so believable to think that they had all been friends for decades
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  and they were willing to die next to each other.
• 29:02
  ~ I truly loved Great American Bitch because,
• 29:08
  I mean, the recording is fantastic,
• 29:10
  but when you see it on stage, it feels like girlhood.
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  Like, yes, of course you are.
• 29:18
  And I also thought the Lucy stood out because she looks just like cute as a button.
• 29:23
  And then she's like, I pushed this card into a ditch,
• 29:26
  I don't know. And I'm like, okay,
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  yeah
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  Ha
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  girl, yeah you did. ~ And so that was ~ absolutely fantastic for me.
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  ~ There's lots of bright spots,
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  but I feel like that was the brightest spot,
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  the happiest, the peak of happy for the show.
• 29:44
  For
• 29:44
  sure. And RJ, was there a standout performance for you?
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  Was there a person that just took the cake for you?
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  Ugh, that's so hard. Yeah.
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  Pick your favorite child quick.
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  Yeah
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  I mean, honestly, I'll just say this.
• 29:59
  Because I'd seen it multiple times on Broadway,
• 30:02
  I was afraid of what the cast would be like comparatively,
• 30:08
  but I was pleasantly surprised by pretty much everyone because
• 30:13
  it felt fresh, it felt unique.
• 30:17
  to them as humans, but it was still exactly what I was expecting to see.
• 30:23
  Like they still felt authentic.
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  I don't know, just generally, obviously a great job in casting
• 30:31
  the show and just an incredible high level of talent as well vocally.
• 30:38
  And with that concludes episode one of our Suffs Podcast,
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  but stay tuned for part two coming soon.
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  Before we go, let us know what you thought of the story of Suffs,
• 30:45
  and also if you're a great American bitch in the comments.
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  Thanks again for joining us here in our box seats.
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  Until next curtain call.