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Dinner with Friends - Kelly Clark | One of CrossFit's Newest Red Shirts! · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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She was a CrossFit OG,
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always around the scene since the
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beginning.
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And now she's one of CrossFit's newest red
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shirts.
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Kelly Clark is next.
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The game is in trouble.
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I've been in my death for the piece
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of the puzzle.
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I got it for real
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What is going on everybody?
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Welcome to lunch or maybe dinner with the
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Clydesdale today.
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We have my friend Kelly Clark here.
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And I know this is a new format.
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This is only like the third or fourth
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person we've had on since we've switched
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this over.
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And these are not going to be traditional
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interviews.
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I've done so many of the traditional
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interviews.
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I just want to sit and chat with
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friends and have a good time.
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And if like news breaks,
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we'll talk about it.
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Like within the last hour, news broke.
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So we're going to start there.
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So I'm going to pull this up.
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It was announced on Dallin Pepper's
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website on Instagram and by the barbell
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spin that I'll try to blow this up.
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Sure I will.
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Here it is.
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He says,
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I guess that bike in SoCal messed me
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up more than I thought.
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It's been a long few weeks and I'm
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heartbroken to not be heading to Scotland
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for Rogue.
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Saw signs of rhabdo early on and thought
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I could clear things up and get back
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into training.
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Turns out I couldn't and continued to see
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major issues as weeks went on.
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After speaking with a doctor and getting
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lots of blood work done,
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I've been medically advised to take a few
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weeks off and make sure I'm coming back
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in twenty twenty six the way I envision,
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which is to wreck shop.
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Bill and Katie,
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you guys put on the best show of
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the year.
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I'll be back.
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So you've been around this sport for ever.
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Right.
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And I don't mean to say that in
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a way that you're old,
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but you've been around since the
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beginning.
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Have you experienced rhabdo before?
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Maybe a minor case of rhabdo once or
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twice,
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but nothing that's like sent me to a
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doctor or the hospital or anything.
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been a coach as well have you seen
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any any other athletes that i have never
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i have never seen any of my athletes
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get rabdo um i've heard of people getting
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rabdo but um no you know where i
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where i hear about it most often these
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days is um in our firefighters in the
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fire academies wow
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And nobody that we work with,
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but regularly in the fire academies.
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Well, that's a nice segue.
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I do want to come back to this
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a little bit.
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Well, let's finish this off.
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Off topic.
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Did you see SoCal, the team,
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where he went to the edge on that
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three workout thing?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So it was an air runner for, um,
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well,
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I don't even remember the distance and
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then over the bar and then the echo
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bike for fifty cows.
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Yeah.
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You're a competitor too, right?
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It's not every day you see someone go
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that far to the dark or whatever we
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want to call it, to push.
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Do you think you could get to that
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level?
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I think only someone like Dolan could give
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himself rhabdo on a workout like that.
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I think that's...
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I don't think I could get there on
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a workout like that for me, especially,
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uh, because I suck at the echo bike,
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but, but, but yeah,
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I think that most people could not bring
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that level of intensity to do that kind
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of damage to themselves on that workout.
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That's awesome.
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You have to be fit,
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as fit as he is,
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and the amplification of how far he then
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has to push past to get Rabdo.
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Because I'm assuming when you see it in
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firefighters,
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it's because they're not fit enough when
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they try to do the big task at
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the academy.
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yeah well yeah either not fit enough or
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not hydrated um you know they they went
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spent the weekend drinking and then came
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back to the academy on monday body weight
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murph you know like that kind of stuff
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um but like but yeah in general either
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is either you know hydration plus
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intensity or or you know um
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Improper scaling is a thing that I've
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heard of, that kind of stuff.
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But I think it's really rare that you
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see someone that fit just do that much
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damage.
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The only time we really probably get to
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see it is at the games.
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You know,
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there's the most famous cases of the Murph
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in Carson where Annie kind of starts
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wobbling.
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Kara doesn't even know where she's at in
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that last little sprint to the finish
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line.
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And I don't know if they went as
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far as Dallin did.
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No, I know.
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for more heat injury issues, right?
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Like that's not, that's not,
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we're not talking about rhabdo there.
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Um, I mean, I guess,
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I guess they could go hand in hand
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potentially, but yeah, I, yeah,
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that's a thing.
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It is.
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It's not something you see every day.
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And, uh,
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the fact that he is willing to go
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to that,
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do you think that it affects him going
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forward?
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in pushing that hard again that's the only
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uh probably depends on how much damage he
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did and how bad it is um and
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how well he heals heals up um and
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takes care of himself i know um who
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else shelby neal recently um got rabdo um
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more of him
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I think she was taking some time off
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and then came straight back into Murph and
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didn't hydrate appropriately afterwards,
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I think is the story that she told.
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But I think it's been kind of a
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longer duration issue for her.
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She's had a hard time coming back from
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it than she expected.
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So I think if you do enough damage,
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it can affect your ability to bring that
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level of intensity back.
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in the future um but yeah that's maybe
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out of my scope of practice yeah you
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just worry because dallin and shelby both
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are young athletes who have a long career
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ahead of them and you hope that this
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doesn't affect anything moving forward
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yeah i would really hope
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But I think that I'm a big believer
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in, you know, I like PT clinics,
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so I'm a big believer that if you
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really commit to doing the rehab and
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recovering properly,
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I think
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In those cases,
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I think probably the biggest danger is
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that he tries to come back too fast,
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do too much too early,
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and then never fully recovers or doesn't
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fully heal or sets himself back.
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But he's got good resources around him.
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And I'm sure he's got a good team
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that's giving him some good advice.
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So hopefully he'll, you know,
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take the right steps and
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Yeah,
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I think my biggest worry isn't physically.
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I think he'll be, you know,
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if you look at the sickness, wellness,
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fitness continuum,
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he's clear over on the one side of
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the pendulum.
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So his recovery will be fine.
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I think it's the mental piece that I
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would worry about the most.
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Interesting.
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Yeah.
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You think he could be scared to go
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there again?
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That's what I'm worried about.
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Yeah.
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Or maybe he only pushes to eight thousand
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RPMs instead of nine.
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I mean, would it really matter?
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Yeah.
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Everybody else anyway.
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True, true.
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But if you're trying to be a games
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champion, which is his goal,
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and he has made that abundantly clear,
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there are going to be times where in
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a competition you're going to have to
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push.
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Go there.
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And will he hit the pedal to the
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metal again?
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I think he will.
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I have faith in him.
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I think he's tough.
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He'll get himself mentally rehabbed as
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well as physically.
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Ernie Garza said instead of a hundred and
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ten percent,
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he's going to go a hundred and eight.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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The men's field is just so stinking close
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these days.
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Like, it's with, I mean,
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we said on this show,
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there were ten guys that could have won
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the games this year.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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And so like when it's all that close
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and you're fighting for every point
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because you're all swapping places,
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like every little,
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every little percent matters.
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That's that men's field is a really tough
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fight.
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I mean, and that is something you are,
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you are familiar with.
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If people don't remember you missed out on
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the games twice by like a Nat's eyelash.
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that like one percent would it could have
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made a difference right but you know
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you're living your best life now I am
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I am old news yeah
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So I do want to get into the
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firefighting thing,
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but I saw your sweatshirt and it's so
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funny.
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Yesterday we were looking or Sunday night,
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we were looking up the trademarks that
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CrossFit has.
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And you know that they've let that
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trademark expire.
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Oh, that logo.
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I mean, that doesn't surprise me,
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but I didn't know that.
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Yeah.
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I was shocked.
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Yeah.
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It says like dead or abandoned on the
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trademark site.
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day okay because um the new podcast the
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sport of fitness it was someone told me
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that they have they trademarked the sport
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of fitness so they own that and i
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was just going out to see like what
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else have they trademarked because like
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someone like the wfp
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Can't even use that now.
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They can't use CrossFit.
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They can't use sport of fitness.
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Like they are really limited in what they
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can do because of the trademarks.
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It turns out just meandering about like,
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what all have they trademarked?
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They have three, two, one go.
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They have Murph.
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They have so many pukey,
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forging elite fitness.
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Speaking of breaking news,
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forging elite fitness,
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big marketing campaign yesterday.
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What are your thoughts on that?
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I think it's,
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I love what's coming out of the training
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and the education department right now.
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I think that it's good.
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I don't know.
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It's just nice to see them.
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I guess I used to use their words,
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you know,
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like put the stake in the ground and,
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and hold it there, you know,
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like plant the flag and remind everybody
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who we are and why we're here and
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and what this is all about.
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You know, I think,
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I think it's always easy to get lost
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in the noise or go off into the
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weeds and, you know,
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and having CrossFit to really take on the
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task of making sure that they like are
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holding the flag and that's, and that's,
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you know, they're,
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they're anchoring us to our mission and
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our purpose.
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And I think that's,
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That's what they should be doing.
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You know, I love forging elite fitness.
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I've said it forever.
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I started CrossFit over five hundred
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pounds.
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I wasn't looking for Timu fitness.
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I wanted elite fitness.
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Right.
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If I'm going to go if I'm going
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to put in the work,
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I want it to be the best.
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And so I love that because I think
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people say that only reaches the tip of
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the spear.
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That's not true.
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I think everybody who's looking to get fit
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wants the best they can get.
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Yeah, they want the best for them.
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Right.
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And it just has to be explained to
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them that that's what CrossFit can be.
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It can be whatever you need it to
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be in that moment.
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So I've heard a criticism.
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I want to hear your feedback on it.
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How is Harley?
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Harley's doing great.
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She's not appreciating the cold weather
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right now.
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She's got her hoodie on,
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but she's doing great.
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So the one criticism I have heard a
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little bit is that I love the video.
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I love the narration.
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I love the people in it,
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but there's no action item at the end.
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Yeah.
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So like,
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how do I get to an affiliate?
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How do I get this elite fitness you're
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talking about?
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Where do I go?
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Interesting.
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Yeah.
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And it was brought to my attention.
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I did not think of this on my
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own.
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Just like I was,
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I was like all gung ho when I
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first saw it all pumped up,
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ready to go.
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But then someone said, what next?
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Yeah.
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You know,
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I think it's on your end.
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Hopefully just your end.
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You know, I feel like... I don't know.
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I'm not a media person,
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so maybe someone would argue with me about
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this.
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But I do think that there's...
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I don't know.
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I don't feel that there needs to be
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an action item.
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How would they do that?
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How would they send you to a specific
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affiliate?
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They maybe could link you to the affiliate
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map and you could find an affiliate near
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you.
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Maybe that would be cool.
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But I think that CrossFit's job is to
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just keep sending the message and
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I don't know.
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Let me counter your argument.
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Let me counter your argument.
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Isn't their job also to support the
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affiliates?
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So at the end of that,
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if the narrator says, if you want,
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if you want this,
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go to the link in our bio and
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check out the closest location for you.
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Yeah.
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Well, as simple as that.
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And then you,
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it's a link to the affiliate map.
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Yeah.
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I think that'd be cool.
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I don't think I have a strong opinion
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on that because I don't,
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and maybe I don't understand media as
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much,
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but I could see how from like a
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media marketing perspective,
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if you want to have kind of a
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call to action with everything.
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Well, I think the message is awesome.
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Yeah.
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And if you're selling something,
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where do I buy it?
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Right.
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And I think that's the piece that's
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missing.
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Yeah.
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If you show me a cool toy and
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I'm like, man, I want that toy.
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And then you don't tell me where I
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can buy it.
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The message is wasted on me.
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Just thoughts.
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Okay.
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I'm not being uber critical.
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I just, I don't.
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I can see that.
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I can see that.
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Ken Walter says dogs are the best.
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Dogs are the best.
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My dog and I have been having a
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little, we, we,
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we need some relationship advice,
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counseling.
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He thinks he owns my house.
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Yeah.
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I'm trying to tell him he does not.
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But you know, we'll work through it.
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We'll work through it.
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I'm sure.
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Good luck with that, yeah.
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I think I let my dog win that
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one a while ago.
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My wife is allowing him to own the
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house.
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And so then when I say, no,
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you don't, he's like,
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I'll just wait till mom gets home.
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Right.
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He knows how to play you.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, well, cool.
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So you've been very busy in your...
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it's weird.
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Cause I talked to you at one point
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and you're like, yeah, I'm retiring.
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I'm taking a step back.
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Yeah.
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I see you just as much.
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So, so in,
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in addition to continuing to compete at
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the age group level,
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and let me ask you about that.
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What is that?
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Is that,
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how is that different from you for you
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than the elite division?
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Uh, I think when in the elite division,
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it,
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it was more of
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like a career, you know,
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that was like the thing I was doing
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with my life to some extent.
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I was coaching as well, but, you know,
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I limited the number of hours that I
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was coaching so that I could maximize my
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performance in the gym.
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And it's not just the training hours that
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you're putting in,
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it's the recovery time and the sleep you
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need and, you know,
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the meal prepping and this, you know,
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managing your stress levels.
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You can't burn the candle at both ends.
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And so, you know, you're eating, sleeping,
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breathing, you know,
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competition and performance.
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And, um,
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I think now in the master's division,
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this is the thing that I do for
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fun.
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This is the thing that I do as
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like a stress relief.
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This is the thing, you know,
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I have a full career.
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I have, you know, a social life and,
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um,
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I am investing more into my career and
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my relationships and CrossFit is the thing
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to celebrate.
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The thing that I do to celebrate what
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my body can do to like, um,
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you know, I still have the fitness.
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It's still in me to compete.
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I still have that mindset of like,
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if I'm going to do it,
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that I want to,
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I want to do it well.
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um with the bandwidth that i have and
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i still have that drive i still have
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that competitive edge to me uh so in
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competition you know i'm there to compete
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but but it's it's the thing that i
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do for fun with my time it's just
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a little bit less pressure less stressful
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and i find that a lot of the
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other masters athletes are similar the
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conversations in the
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in the warmup area are different.
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You know, uh,
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when you're in the open division,
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people are there to do the thing and
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they're zoned in and they're focused and
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they've spent the whole year training for
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this thing.
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And in the master's divisions, it's like,
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how are your kids?
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How's the family?
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What, how's the job?
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How's the, you know,
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and people are kind of chit chatting and,
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and don't get me wrong, we're competitive.
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Everybody wants to win.
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Uh, but yeah,
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you know,
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like we're focused when it's time to be
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focused,
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but it's just a little bit more relaxed
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than everybody has lived a little bit more
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life.
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You know, if that makes sense, it does.
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And it, I, when I'm at the mat,
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I say this all the time.
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I would mind.
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I get more enjoyment at the age group
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games than I do at the elite games.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Because I can sit down on a bench
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and have a conversation with you,
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and you're not all stressed out.
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You know what I mean?
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It's just you're there to have a good
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time,
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and not that you don't want to win.
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Right.
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Everybody wants to win.
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It's just there's so many priorities in
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life now that that isn't the main one
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anymore.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And like, yeah, I mean,
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that was a really cool thing to like
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just be walking around the convention
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center and like sit down and chat with
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you.
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And that was actually something that I
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talked to my team ahead of time about.
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We were talking about, you know,
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do we get an Airbnb?
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Do we get a hotel attached to the,
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you know, that kind of thing.
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And I specifically said,
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I want to hang out.
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in the athlete area.
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Like I normally,
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what I would do is I would go,
22:38
like I would set up my own camp
22:39
where I would get the hotel attached to
22:42
it.
22:42
And as soon as an event was done,
22:44
I would be back in my hotel room
22:45
doing recovery things, doing eating,
22:48
being in my own head space,
22:49
getting ready for the next thing,
22:50
you know, or,
22:52
or just de-stressing with my crew,
22:54
you know, and I,
22:55
and I would be more isolated because I
22:57
was just keeping myself focused and not
23:00
you know,
23:00
letting energy bleed out anywhere else.
23:02
And I,
23:03
I specifically talked to my team ahead of
23:04
time and said, I want to,
23:05
I want to make friends.
23:06
I want to have fun.
23:07
I want to talk to people, you know,
23:09
I want to see everybody.
23:11
I want to enjoy the whole full experience,
23:14
not just to be there to perform.
23:17
And that was cool to see because like,
23:19
I saw you joking around with competitors
23:21
or people in other age groups,
23:23
like just laughing and having a good time.
23:25
And, and it was really cool to see.
23:28
Yeah.
23:29
Um,
23:30
So conversely,
23:31
you said like when you were competing
23:33
elite,
23:34
you shrunk back your coaching hours to
23:36
make sure that you had time to perform
23:38
and all that kind of stuff.
23:40
Now that you're not in the elite division
23:42
anymore,
23:43
is coaching like your primary job and have
23:46
you upped those hours again?
23:48
And what kind of fulfillment does that
23:49
give you?
23:54
I coach a lot of hours now.
24:01
And that's the thing that I'm doing with
24:03
my life now.
24:03
This is the thing that I'm putting a
24:05
hundred percent into now.
24:07
And I,
24:11
and more fulfilled than I imagined when I,
24:15
I think a lot of athletes imagine a
24:18
lot of athletes get scared when they pull
24:20
back from competing that they're,
24:23
you know,
24:23
what am I going to do with my
24:24
life?
24:24
How do I, what is my identity now?
24:27
What's my purpose.
24:28
And for me, I,
24:30
Coaching is just as fulfilling,
24:33
if not more so,
24:33
because it's not as selfish of a pursuit.
24:36
And not that there's anything wrong with
24:39
that, but I competed for me.
24:44
In all honesty,
24:46
I competed because I loved it.
24:49
And that was the big dream that I
24:50
had.
24:51
And...
24:53
my coaching, I'm passionate about it.
24:55
I get a lot out of it.
24:57
I, I learned a lot from my clients,
25:00
but I am also giving so much and
25:05
it's so much of a selfless, uh,
25:08
pursuit and it gives back so much that
25:13
I just think I find it so fulfilling
25:16
and meaningful.
25:18
Um,
25:20
And I actually,
25:22
I have a hard time not giving too
25:24
much, you know,
25:27
trying to make sure that I'm also taking
25:29
care of myself and have some level of
25:32
balance in my life.
25:32
I'm not great at balance.
25:36
Is that what made you a great athlete?
25:37
And now it's making you a great coach,
25:41
but really hard to find balancing that
25:44
out.
25:44
Because my next question is,
25:48
you've become a red shirt.
25:49
You're now seminar staff with CrossFit.
25:52
At what point did you say, man,
25:53
that would be really cool.
25:55
And I need to go for that.
25:57
Oh, the red shirt.
26:00
Actually,
26:01
I wanted to be on seminar staff ever
26:03
since I got my level two.
26:07
And when was that?
26:08
That was.
26:10
Twenty.
26:14
Fifteen.
26:16
Sixteen.
26:19
Maybe twenty sixteen.
26:23
Yeah, something like that.
26:24
Probably twenty sixteen.
26:28
It's really early on in your what we
26:31
would know as your competitive career.
26:33
Yeah.
26:34
Six years into CrossFit.
26:36
Yeah.
26:37
Uh huh.
26:40
Yeah.
26:40
No,
26:41
I did my level two and I watched
26:43
my coaches.
26:45
at the level two,
26:47
just mold people and work with people and
26:50
dig deep into coaching.
26:51
And I just was like,
26:52
I want to do that.
26:53
That looks like the greatest job.
26:58
And I loved my level two.
26:59
I also think that was my favorite
27:00
certificate course that I did was that
27:04
like just digging deep into the skill of
27:08
coaching.
27:11
It was so much fun.
27:13
Yeah.
27:14
And it was so unique to anything else.
27:16
Like you're not just learning material.
27:18
You're not just taking in concepts and
27:20
theories and, uh, you know,
27:23
you're doing the thing and you're learning
27:25
how to be better at doing the thing.
27:29
So off of that,
27:30
I have a bunch of questions.
27:31
Okay.
27:32
So,
27:33
so you wanted to be a seminar staff
27:35
member all the way back to twenty fifteen,
27:37
twenty sixteen.
27:38
Hmm.
27:39
You live in Northern California and you're
27:42
close to the ranch and you've been used
27:44
to test workouts for Dave.
27:46
Yep.
27:47
So you have connections.
27:50
What the hell took so long?
27:54
Because I can only do one thing well
27:58
at a time.
28:03
I actually remember at the end of my
28:05
level two, I walked up to Pat Barber.
28:07
He was one of my coaches.
28:09
And I said,
28:10
what do I have to do to get
28:11
on staff?
28:13
And he basically said,
28:13
you have to get your level three at
28:15
the bare minimum.
28:17
and you know after that you can apply
28:20
do your internship etc and i said okay
28:23
uh so i kind of put myself on
28:25
that path but then my competitive career
28:27
started taking off and i just felt like
28:32
what it took for me to compete at
28:35
the level that i wanted to compete at
28:36
i didn't have it in me to also
28:40
be at that time seminar strap was
28:42
traveling all over the world every weekend
28:45
it was you know um and i just
28:48
didn't think i could do both well um
28:53
and i don't like if i'm if i'm
28:58
gonna do something i want to be really
29:01
good at it so in the early days
29:04
of crossfit yeah
29:07
Annie was red shirt.
29:08
Yeah.
29:09
Rich was red shirt.
29:10
Kalipa was red shirt.
29:13
Camille,
29:13
like all these big athletes were red
29:16
shirts doing both at the same time.
29:18
I know.
29:20
What kind of respect do you have for
29:21
them that they were able to pull that
29:23
off?
29:25
Oh, cute.
29:27
But I just had a seminar with Katie
29:29
Hogan.
29:29
I love Katie.
29:32
Last weekend.
29:32
I love Katie, too.
29:35
She's the best.
29:36
It was so fun.
29:37
We had a great time together.
29:37
I haven't seen her in a long time.
29:38
This was the first time we got to
29:40
work together on staff.
29:41
So it was awesome.
29:43
But I just had this conversation with her
29:46
where she was telling me about...
29:50
uh coaching a seminar literally the
29:53
weekend before she competed at the games
29:56
and she was telling me that she flew
30:01
It was like down in San Diego or
30:03
something.
30:03
And then she flew back home only to
30:05
turn around the next day and fly back
30:07
for the games.
30:08
And she was just telling me how she
30:09
was on the airplane crying because she was
30:13
so tired and so scared about, you know,
30:16
going straight from a seminar to the
30:17
games.
30:18
Like it's a lot of energy to go
30:22
through a seminar.
30:23
You are on and you are, you know,
30:26
driving the energy all weekend long.
30:31
And,
30:31
and then to turn around and go compete
30:33
at the caves.
30:34
I think, I think it was a lot.
30:38
And she probably was an affiliate owner at
30:39
that time too.
30:40
Right.
30:41
Oh God.
30:45
I don't know.
30:46
Cause a lot of those,
30:47
a lot of those people were.
30:48
Yeah.
30:49
Some of them were.
30:49
Do you add that into the mix?
30:51
Holy cow.
30:52
Right.
30:52
Yeah.
30:53
I know.
30:54
Also, I mean, there is,
30:55
I do think that like,
30:57
she was also telling me, she's like, yeah,
30:59
I competed at the games and I didn't
31:01
have a strict muscle up, you know?
31:04
So like,
31:07
there is a different level of athletic
31:10
ability now to compete at that level.
31:14
Uh, whereas, you know,
31:16
I like talked to Pat and a few
31:18
of like the real OGs and they were
31:21
like, yeah,
31:21
we just signed up and showed up at
31:22
the ranch, you know?
31:24
Um,
31:27
uh and so like there there was a
31:31
turning point i feel like i was always
31:33
just behind you know every time i unlocked
31:36
a new level of my fitness they just
31:39
kept raising the bar so i was like
31:42
just underneath that line um do you think
31:47
that made you a better coach
31:49
Oh yeah.
31:50
Because like you now know that you knew
31:52
what it meant to have the drive and
31:55
the work to get that next thing.
31:58
And we all have that next thing,
32:00
whether it be your first box jump,
32:02
your first pull up, your first muscle up,
32:04
whatever it is,
32:05
every athlete that walks into that gym has
32:07
something they're striving for.
32:09
Yeah.
32:10
Yeah.
32:11
Oh, I think, yeah,
32:12
I think being an athlete has absolutely
32:16
made me a better coach.
32:17
Um,
32:19
because I've had to pick apart everything
32:21
that I'm doing.
32:22
I've done everything so systematically and
32:25
so intentionally and deliberately that
32:26
I've really put a lot of thought into
32:30
every single thing that I do.
32:32
And that helps me then break it down,
32:35
communicate it,
32:37
empathize with people that are trying to
32:41
do their thing,
32:41
trying to chase their goals.
32:45
So during the process of becoming a
32:47
seminar staff member,
32:49
what was the hardest part?
32:55
Uh, uh, I think me for me,
33:01
the hardest part was figuring out what the
33:06
fitting my coaching style into the format
33:08
of the seminar.
33:09
Um,
33:14
the early days you're just so terrified to
33:17
like mess something up.
33:19
I don't think I've ever actually been so
33:21
terrified.
33:21
You know,
33:22
I'm used to being on a stadium floor
33:25
with, you know,
33:27
thousands of people and noise and lights
33:29
and announcers.
33:31
And I like the adrenaline rush.
33:33
I work well under pressure.
33:34
I consider myself someone who can perform
33:37
under pressure.
33:38
And I have never been so terrified as
33:40
I was at my first seminar.
33:44
And even like my first internship,
33:46
have you ever talked to Pat Barber or
33:49
Wes Pyatt?
33:50
They'll tell you how terrible I was.
33:56
What is the evaluation process like after
33:58
that first nervous internship?
34:02
Well,
34:03
so you go through like this internship
34:06
process and they're mostly trying to
34:07
figure out, are you the right person?
34:10
You know,
34:11
do you have the right personality?
34:14
Are you the right fit to do this
34:15
kind of work?
34:17
You know,
34:18
and they can teach you the skills of
34:19
coaching and everything.
34:21
They can teach you how to do the
34:22
seminar.
34:23
But you have to have...
34:27
the personality that fits.
34:28
And so that's really what they're looking
34:31
for.
34:31
And they did make me feel better.
34:33
They, they, you know,
34:34
told me stories about their first seminar
34:36
and how bad they sucked.
34:37
And, you know, like, don't worry.
34:39
Like we all sucked at the first time,
34:41
but I, you know,
34:42
and it wasn't that I didn't know what
34:44
I was doing.
34:44
I just froze.
34:45
It just,
34:47
froze.
34:49
I couldn't believe it.
34:51
I walked up to him afterwards and I
34:52
was like,
34:52
I've been coaching for fifteen years.
34:55
How did this happen?
34:59
I know how bad that sucked.
35:01
Your first seminar was an L-I or an
35:02
L-II?
35:02
An L-I.
35:05
Okay.
35:05
Do they just give you like one piece
35:08
of it and say,
35:09
know this and come in?
35:11
Or do they say you got to know
35:12
it all and then you start?
35:15
I'm still, honestly,
35:17
like I'm still drinking through a fire
35:18
hose.
35:19
I'm over a year in now on staff
35:22
and yeah,
35:24
the it's it's a long several years long
35:27
process to the point where you can coach
35:30
everything in the seminar like it's a very
35:32
long process and they they stair-step you
35:35
but the first few times um it was
35:38
more like they they toss you into like
35:41
the breakout sessions you know like
35:46
coach the squats or the presses, you know,
35:48
like they give you a little breakout and
35:50
it's just coaching.
35:51
I'm just teaching somebody how to squat or
35:53
to deadlift.
35:53
I do that every single day for the
35:55
last fifteen years.
35:59
But there is a format.
36:00
There's kind of a formula that they use.
36:02
The circle thing,
36:04
the circle was really foreign to me.
36:06
I hadn't done that in, you know,
36:09
since my level two, essentially.
36:10
And that's not the way I coach in
36:12
my gym.
36:14
And interacting with people,
36:16
getting experience,
36:17
like interacting with people that you've
36:18
like just met and immediately like being
36:21
on them is a little bit of a
36:24
different thing than the members that you
36:27
see every day that you connect with,
36:29
that you learn their personalities and how
36:31
they respond to feedback and the cues that
36:33
they need and how far you can push
36:35
them and everything.
36:37
And so it's a little bit different.
36:42
And that took me a minute to figure
36:44
out, okay, I see what's happening.
36:47
I see what we're doing here now.
36:49
Have you come to the realization that the
36:54
people there are probably just as nervous?
36:58
When I did my first L-One,
37:01
I've had my L-One for ten years.
37:03
So my first L-One, Julie Fouché was...
37:07
first breakout instructor i was shaking in
37:10
my shoes i didn't want to be called
37:12
out and of course i did i was
37:16
one of the people called out and then
37:18
i'm like so i'm i'm as nervous as
37:21
you would be presenting that
37:24
yeah i uh i've been told katie and
37:28
i actually she told me that this weekend
37:30
she's like yeah every time i think i
37:32
you know like i get nervous about giving
37:34
a new lecture i just remind myself they're
37:36
more scared of me than i am of
37:38
them and i i think that does help
37:44
a little bit um
37:47
But yeah, and I'm not as nervous anymore.
37:50
I'm always nervous when I pick up a
37:52
new lecture.
37:53
They kind of stair-step you.
37:56
They say like, all right,
37:57
you're gonna teach this lecture and you
37:58
get to prepare, you get ready for it.
38:01
And then you give that lecture a number
38:03
of times before they say, okay,
38:05
you're ready for the next lecture.
38:06
And so they give you like one little
38:08
piece of the seminar at a time.
38:12
And you get to like,
38:14
dial that in and then they give you
38:16
the next thing,
38:16
which is actually really nice.
38:17
That's been a really great way to progress
38:21
through learning the material.
38:23
Um, but yeah,
38:25
so I'm always nervous giving a new
38:27
lecture.
38:28
There's a lot of pressure that I put
38:30
on myself to make sure that I do
38:32
a good job and, you know,
38:34
make sure that I give people the
38:37
experience that they came for,
38:38
that I'm not just regurgitating
38:40
information.
38:41
Um,
38:43
but, uh, I, yeah,
38:45
I've never been as nervous as I was
38:46
that very first seminar.
38:51
Uh, so five AM squat club, uh,
38:52
Julie Foucher was my games athlete crush
38:54
back in the day.
38:56
This is what will be cool for you.
38:58
When she was teaching my L one,
39:00
she was in her walking boot from tearing
39:03
her Achilles.
39:04
So she was at the height of her
39:06
popularity.
39:08
Um,
39:09
And I think there was like eighty some
39:12
people in our L-One that day because it
39:16
was at Rogue because I lived here in
39:18
Columbus.
39:19
So it's easy to go down to Rogue
39:21
to get your L-One.
39:24
Well, you have such huge seminars.
39:28
Back in the day, there were, you know,
39:30
fifty, sixty, eighty person seminars.
39:34
I'm kind of sad I missed those days
39:36
where they'd have like five staff members
39:39
on a seminar and just tons of people.
39:43
How many are on us typically now?
39:47
Somewhere in like the twenties.
39:51
And what, like three staff members or?
39:54
Uh,
39:55
usually two until they get to the high
39:59
twenties to thirty,
40:01
then we'll get a third.
40:06
Um, was?
40:08
CrossFets asks, was?
40:10
I'm sorry,
40:11
Rogue is still a cool place to go.
40:17
Yeah!
40:18
Um...
40:18
so okay so you're doing this whole thing
40:22
and then in addition to that you have
40:25
you have a program called k-two yes and
40:29
that is to make sure that our firefighters
40:31
stay healthy and fit so walk us through
40:35
because when i reached out to you to
40:37
come on with me you were actually away
40:40
at a at a firehouse or an academy
40:42
or something doing something with with
40:44
them so walk us through what you're doing
40:46
there
40:48
So,
40:48
we're working with the Pasadena Fire
40:50
Academy.
40:52
We work with Santa Cruz Fire as well,
40:54
but when you were talking to me,
40:57
we were down in Pasadena onboarding their
41:03
new recruit class for their next fire
41:05
academy.
41:07
Our program essentially has,
41:10
we have a few different pieces to it.
41:11
So we go down there and we spend
41:15
a couple of days down there talking to
41:17
the recruits.
41:18
We do a lot of,
41:19
we do a complete movement assessment,
41:21
injury risk assessment.
41:22
We put them through like an FMS screen
41:25
and, um,
41:27
a Y balance test.
41:28
And then we, you know,
41:30
we have our own little tests and things
41:31
that we've built out over the years.
41:34
I put them through,
41:35
I do some coaching with like squats and
41:37
hinges, pushups, hanging,
41:40
things like that.
41:41
I look at their movement,
41:42
make sure that they know how to do
41:43
things properly, at least the basics.
41:45
And then I sit down with them.
41:46
I talk to them about stress, sleep,
41:49
nutrition, hydration,
41:51
all those kinds of things.
41:52
Make sure they're, you know,
41:54
prepared for whatever
41:56
what not only the fire academy is going
41:59
to demand,
41:59
but for what the job is going to
42:01
demand later.
42:03
And so we,
42:04
we try and we really try and set
42:05
them up with a good foundation.
42:07
These are guys that are just getting into
42:09
firefighting and, you know,
42:11
they're just heading into academy.
42:12
They're brand new.
42:13
And so I kind of see it as
42:15
our opportunity to get them while they're
42:20
still developing habits and still figuring
42:23
out the rhythm of things.
42:24
And, um,
42:27
and try to set them up for success
42:30
as much as possible.
42:31
So we do all that stuff and we
42:34
put together from all of that assessment,
42:38
they get a corrective exercise program
42:41
from our physical therapists.
42:44
for ryan who owns the physical therapy
42:46
clinic he gives them a corrective exercise
42:48
program if they if we find any imbalances
42:51
mobility limitations if there's some
42:53
tweaky things or an old injury that acts
42:56
up things like that we try and make
42:58
sure that we're taking care of that stuff
43:00
and then they go through a ten week
43:03
pre-academy program which is designed to
43:07
make sure that
43:09
they are fit enough to make it through
43:11
the academy so we have a fitness test
43:15
that we put them through in at the
43:17
start of the program and then we retest
43:19
them at the end of the program and
43:23
it's kind of a broad test across multiple
43:25
domains but we make sure that we're trying
43:27
to make them as well-rounded and prepared
43:29
for
43:30
what they will need to be successful in
43:32
the academy as possible.
43:34
There's a lot of injury prevention things
43:37
sprinkled in there.
43:38
There's a lot of corrective exercise stuff
43:42
and a lot of recovery work.
43:45
Part of our job is to make sure
43:47
that they're not only really fit,
43:49
but making sure they're not getting
43:51
injured,
43:51
making sure they know how to take care
43:53
of injuries.
43:53
If things pop up,
43:56
make sure they know how to recover
43:58
appropriately from
44:00
their training that they're doing.
44:02
And then, so they,
44:04
that program is delivered remotely because
44:06
they're kind of all over the place at
44:07
that point.
44:08
They're not in the academy yet.
44:10
They can message us.
44:11
They can send us videos.
44:12
We send them feedback.
44:13
We've got like a group chat with them
44:15
and, you know,
44:16
we're all talking to each other.
44:17
So it's really fun.
44:18
They're in that now.
44:19
They just,
44:20
they're about halfway through now.
44:22
And then we'll go back down in late
44:28
November.
44:29
before the Academy starts.
44:30
The Academy starts in December first.
44:34
And we'll work with their training cadre,
44:36
the guys who are going to be running
44:38
the Academy.
44:40
And we'll do a couple days down there
44:43
with them,
44:44
teaching them how to run our fitness
44:46
program through the academy.
44:48
So then we'll have our fitness program
44:50
articulate with their fire academy.
44:53
So they'll come in every day of the
44:54
academy and they do their physical fitness
44:57
first thing in the morning.
44:59
And then they go on with their fire
45:00
evolutions and all their training for the
45:02
day.
45:02
And like I said,
45:04
a lot of the problems that they're seeing
45:06
is that either guys aren't fit enough to
45:09
make it through.
45:10
or they get hurt early on and they
45:12
have to,
45:13
they wash out because they can't complete
45:15
it.
45:17
We've heard of a lot of cases of
45:18
rhabdo or things like that.
45:20
And so that's really what we're trying to
45:23
mitigate is make sure they're fit enough
45:25
when they walk into the academy,
45:26
make sure they don't get hurt in the
45:28
academy and they make it through to be
45:32
a successful firefighter.
45:35
So this is really about pre-firefighting,
45:37
not about those who make it through and
45:39
keeping them fit while they're on the job.
45:42
Or is there a hope that that translates
45:45
forward?
45:46
Yeah,
45:46
we have an ongoing program that is usually
45:51
like with we don't have it.
45:52
We're not working with Pasadena yet with
45:54
that one.
45:56
Right now they're focused on their
45:57
academy.
45:58
But with Santa Cruz Fire,
46:00
we have an ongoing program that we run
46:02
at the gym and they have access at
46:05
the firehouse.
46:05
So they can either come in to our
46:08
K-II classes at the gym or they can
46:10
access the program remotely and do it at
46:12
the firehouse or at home or wherever they
46:13
want.
46:14
And that's just ongoing,
46:16
trying to take care of their current
46:19
firefighters.
46:22
I was excited to talk to you about
46:23
this because I live in the state of
46:28
Ohio.
46:29
I work for the state of Ohio.
46:31
We had public safety on with us because
46:34
on nine eleven,
46:34
they do a first responders.
46:38
Climb.
46:40
Oh, yeah.
46:40
Or they do a CrossFit workout.
46:43
There are different options.
46:45
But when I ask them,
46:47
do you spend more money on gym equipment
46:50
in the prisons or in the first responders'
46:52
houses?
46:53
The answer was the prisons.
46:56
And when they tested – and this came
46:59
right from the director of public safety –
47:02
the fitness level of the prisoners was
47:05
like,
47:05
twenty points higher than the fitness
47:07
level of the police officers trying to
47:10
chase them.
47:13
So, like, where are our priorities?
47:18
Right.
47:18
So,
47:19
I was excited that you have a program
47:21
and you're working with cities to at least
47:24
get fitness into first responders' hands.
47:27
Yeah.
47:28
So how did it come to be?
47:30
Did they come to you?
47:32
Did you go to them?
47:33
How did the relationship form?
47:35
Yeah, we actually, um, the,
47:39
it came to be because, uh,
47:44
Ryan and I kept having this recurring
47:47
conversation.
47:49
Uh,
47:50
Ryan is the owner of the gym and
47:52
the physical therapy clinic.
47:53
And I, you know,
47:55
I'm doing my competitive athlete thing.
47:56
I'm, you know,
47:58
performing at a high level.
47:59
Ryan comes with me when I go to
48:02
compete.
48:02
He takes care of my recovery and preps
48:05
me for events and things like that.
48:07
And I put a lot of effort into
48:09
my recovery.
48:10
I put a lot of effort into not
48:13
just my physical recovery,
48:14
but managing my nervous system,
48:16
especially as I get older.
48:17
I find that
48:19
my nervous system gives out before my
48:22
physical body does.
48:23
My physical body will do anything I want
48:25
it to.
48:25
But my nervous system is much more
48:27
sensitive, especially as I get older.
48:29
And so I do a lot of things.
48:33
I have a lot of tools in my
48:34
toolkit.
48:35
But I do one of those things is,
48:38
you know, I called it a recovery flow,
48:41
you know,
48:42
where I kind of just did this low
48:43
intensity flush.
48:44
And I did it like once a week
48:46
just to make sure that I was –
48:49
you know, flushing stuff out,
48:52
recovering ranges of motion,
48:54
moving properly, activation.
48:56
It was kind of my prehab, you know,
48:57
injury prevention stuff I'd sprinkle in
48:59
there.
49:00
And we kept having these conversations
49:03
about all of the firefighters and police
49:05
officers that he was seeing coming into
49:07
the clinic.
49:08
And they're all just, they're all broken.
49:10
They're all burnt out.
49:12
They don't know how to manage the stress.
49:14
They don't know how to train
49:16
appropriately.
49:18
If they get hurt on the job,
49:20
they don't know how to rehab an injury
49:22
and take care of themselves,
49:23
but also whilst trying to stay fit for
49:26
the job.
49:30
we just kept getting like like why is
49:33
this this shouldn't be like this they
49:34
should have better resources they should
49:36
know you know all of the things that
49:39
i know as an athlete like our firefighters
49:42
are occupational athletes they are
49:46
Like,
49:46
we should be treating them like
49:47
professional athletes.
49:48
They should have the resources that
49:50
professional athletes have.
49:51
They should, you know, like,
49:53
they should be guided through these
49:54
things.
49:55
How come they don't have these resources?
49:56
How come they don't know how to do
49:57
this stuff?
49:58
How come, you know, like,
49:59
they shouldn't get to the point where
50:00
they're broken before we see them?
50:03
And it was just something that we kept
50:05
circling back around, you know,
50:09
that we were kind of just...
50:11
This is sad.
50:11
These are the people who give endlessly of
50:14
themselves to take care of our
50:15
communities.
50:16
And it should not be this way.
50:18
And we can fix it.
50:21
And so then we got to that point
50:23
where we were like, wait a minute,
50:25
we can fix this.
50:27
We know how to do this.
50:28
So why don't we do that?
50:32
And so we created a program and I
50:37
wrote it up and we beta tested it
50:39
at our gym.
50:41
at the CrossFit gym and it ended up
50:44
exploding.
50:46
We ended up, it's now,
50:47
I think it's about fifty percent of our
50:49
membership is part of our K-two program.
50:53
And it started attracting this whole new
50:56
clientele to our gym that we
50:59
didn't realize it was going to fit be
51:01
a great fit for and that's kind of
51:03
a different story but um it was so
51:06
successful that then we um started talking
51:09
to our firefighters that were coming into
51:10
the clinic and we just started inviting
51:12
them and come try it see what you
51:13
think and uh we had a few firefighters
51:16
that were real kind of ambassadors for us
51:19
that were like oh this is really great
51:21
this is what we need we need to
51:23
get all of our guys on this um
51:26
and it it took some time but it
51:28
Eventually, they were really bought in.
51:34
One thing led to another.
51:36
The next thing we knew,
51:37
we were working with Santa Cruz Fire.
51:40
Then Pasadena happened because Chad
51:48
Augustine, do you know who he is?
51:51
The name sounds vaguely familiar.
51:53
He's a Masters Games athlete.
51:55
Okay.
51:56
you're a masters games athlete, but he's,
51:58
uh,
51:59
I think he used to live in Santa
52:00
Cruz.
52:00
Ryan knew him and we knew he was
52:02
a firefighter.
52:03
Um, and we knew he was a CrossFitter.
52:06
And so Ryan called him up and wanted
52:09
to pick his brain.
52:10
We were, you know, okay, like,
52:11
can we just talk to you about this
52:13
new program that we have that here's what
52:15
we have in mind, but like,
52:16
we wanted to talk to you.
52:17
Tell us where your pain points are.
52:18
Tell us what you guys need.
52:21
Tell us if we're on the right track
52:23
and what turned,
52:24
what went from like a
52:26
a kind of we want to pick your
52:28
brain call turned into, oh, by the way,
52:31
Chad's the chief of Pasadena Fire.
52:33
And at the end of the call,
52:34
he's like, great.
52:35
When can you start?
52:40
We basically looked at each other after
52:42
that call and said,
52:43
I guess we're building a program.
52:44
Very cool.
52:46
Yeah.
52:47
So and it's two years with Pasadena now
52:51
and three or four with Santa Cruz.
52:54
And it's kind of just been slowly growing
52:56
and iterating as we go.
52:58
Is it still a two-person job or two-person
53:02
business?
53:03
Or have you had to bring other people
53:04
in?
53:05
No, we have our other head coach.
53:09
It does the programming and the
53:12
communicating with the recruits with me.
53:14
So it's essentially three of us now.
53:17
Okay.
53:18
Do you see this being a valuable resource
53:20
for even other occupations?
53:22
Oh, yeah.
53:24
Yeah, this has been I mean,
53:27
any shift worker,
53:29
any but any first responder,
53:32
I think it's really valuable for any shift
53:34
worker.
53:36
Honestly, I mentioned that we.
53:39
beta tested it at the gym and then
53:41
it exploded.
53:42
It's been really great for people who are
53:45
graduating from physical therapy and not
53:49
quite ready to jump into CrossFit classes.
53:51
Maybe they're still have,
53:52
they're working around some significant
53:53
limitations or they're just really scared.
53:56
You know, like after big injuries,
53:58
people are really scared to move their
53:59
bodies.
54:00
They don't trust themselves yet.
54:02
Or they're really,
54:03
they've maybe they've gotten really
54:04
deconditioned.
54:06
And so it's a good entry point for
54:10
people.
54:11
And it's been great for our older
54:15
athletes.
54:19
Yeah,
54:19
we've kind of found that it really fits
54:22
anyone that's just really trying to
54:25
focus on their foundations,
54:27
really be injury prevention focused,
54:30
have the option to recover when they need
54:33
it rather than, you know,
54:36
putting themselves through intensity at
54:40
the wrong time.
54:42
So here's my thought.
54:43
You know,
54:44
I said I work for the state of
54:45
Ohio.
54:45
I work in reemployment.
54:46
So when people lose their jobs trying to
54:48
help them find something new,
54:50
The opioid crisis in Ohio is an epidemic.
54:55
And it started in the construction
54:56
industry for the most part.
54:58
Guys would get hurt on the job.
55:00
They don't get paid if they don't show
55:01
up.
55:02
So they take the opioid to get them
55:04
back to work.
55:05
It becomes an addiction.
55:06
And then you're on the downward spiral.
55:08
Yeah.
55:09
and i'm just thinking like all these
55:10
construction workers that are lifting a
55:12
lot of objects all the time doing the
55:15
the like sprint grunt work all day long
55:19
like it just seems like that would be
55:21
a good thing for them to kind of
55:24
have those kind of flow state workouts to
55:27
flush things out yeah
55:30
Yeah, I do.
55:31
That's a really valuable thing.
55:33
And I don't think it takes any kind
55:34
of, honestly,
55:35
I don't think it takes any kind of
55:36
special program.
55:37
It's great.
55:38
I think I've read a great program,
55:40
but the recovery flow honestly came
55:43
because it's not like the concept of
55:46
recovery,
55:46
a low intensity flush is anything new,
55:48
but we were realizing that
55:52
people come to a gym,
55:53
they come to classes because they want to
55:56
be coached.
55:57
They want to, they want,
55:58
they don't want to think about what
56:00
they're supposed to do, how to do it.
56:03
You know, when you say like,
56:05
take your recovery days, you know,
56:07
and make sure that you, you know,
56:09
you do some recovery every now and then
56:11
maybe you just go flush on a rower.
56:12
They're not going to do that.
56:14
You have to like give them the,
56:17
the step-by-step you have to give them the
56:19
coached experience still.
56:20
Um,
56:22
Yeah, I can see that.
56:23
And I think that was kind of what
56:26
clicked.
56:27
That was what clicked for us,
56:29
was you can tell people to recover,
56:33
to take days off,
56:34
to do something low intensity until you're
56:36
blue in the face.
56:37
But there's going to be a very small
56:39
percentage of people that actually take
56:42
the initiative to do that.
56:45
And I think that one of the really
56:48
big things we found for people is...
56:52
The gym is their community.
56:54
That's their social life.
56:56
That's where they connect.
56:57
And that's such an important part of the
57:01
CrossFit experience.
57:02
It's not just the workouts and what it's
57:05
doing for your body.
57:06
It's coming to see your friends and
57:09
connect and get a...
57:11
a break from work or family or whatever
57:14
it is.
57:15
And so being able to come to the
57:18
gym and still hang out with your friends
57:21
in the same class,
57:22
in the same space at the same time
57:23
that you always come and just choose a
57:27
more appropriate option for yourself when
57:29
you need it,
57:31
I think made that so much more accessible
57:35
to people.
57:37
That's really cool.
57:39
Because that's what you see, right?
57:40
You see the, like, I've heard of that.
57:43
I've heard that story a number of times
57:45
in the construction world that, you know,
57:46
you get on painkillers and then the next
57:49
thing you know.
57:50
But you hear that story a lot with
57:51
people.
57:52
Anyone that works a high-stress job,
57:55
whether that's physical stress or even,
57:57
you know, in Silicon Valley,
57:59
we're in the tech bubble.
58:00
So it's... Right.
58:02
The tech companies own you.
58:04
They drive you hard.
58:06
And...
58:08
The people here, they're high performers.
58:12
Not necessarily athletically,
58:14
but at the thing that they do,
58:17
they're very driven.
58:18
And they'll burn themselves up.
58:21
And I think that... I don't know, just...
58:31
You hear that story a lot.
58:32
They get themselves in a hole.
58:33
They get burnt out.
58:34
Work is stressful.
58:35
Family is stressful.
58:36
You get some little tweaky thing that
58:39
happens, a little minor injury,
58:40
and they go,
58:41
I can't come to the gym.
58:42
You know,
58:43
I can't go to the gym today.
58:44
And then I, you know,
58:45
it's been three days and I still can't
58:46
go to the, you know,
58:47
it's still not better.
58:48
I'm not fully recovered.
58:50
And then it's been a week and then
58:51
it gets harder to come back to the
58:52
gym because you kind of just got in
58:55
that rhythm.
58:56
And then it's been two weeks and then
58:58
it's been a month and then it's been
58:59
six months.
59:01
I know that life.
59:02
Yeah.
59:03
I mean,
59:03
I've had twelve back procedures and I went
59:06
from like being there and two twice a
59:09
day,
59:11
seven days a week to like I couldn't
59:13
I couldn't I couldn't even face not being
59:16
able to be myself.
59:18
Yeah.
59:19
And so mentally it was really hard to
59:21
like step my feet back into the gym
59:23
at that point.
59:26
And as much as they want it for
59:27
you,
59:28
if you don't understand that you don't
59:30
have to be who you were,
59:33
you just have to be better than you
59:34
were yesterday.
59:35
We talked about it today on my lunch
59:37
show.
59:38
And it's something I struggle with every
59:39
single day.
59:42
Yeah.
59:43
And that's so hard.
59:44
And so for us,
59:45
it's about catching people before they get
59:48
there.
59:50
It's about making sure that people know...
59:53
If work is stressful, life is stressful,
59:56
you have a little tweaky thing going on,
59:58
the answer is not don't come.
1:00:00
The answer is come.
1:00:01
Show up.
1:00:03
Show up for yourself.
1:00:04
Commit to your movement practice.
1:00:06
And we will make sure that we give
1:00:08
you something that you can do that's
1:00:10
appropriate for you,
1:00:12
that we guide you through it.
1:00:13
We'll make sure that there are still so
1:00:15
many things that you can do.
1:00:18
You know,
1:00:19
and I always just want people to know
1:00:21
that if you show up, you know,
1:00:24
like I will show up for you.
1:00:25
I will be here.
1:00:26
We will give you something that's
1:00:28
appropriate for you.
1:00:29
We're not going to just smash you when
1:00:32
you're, you know,
1:00:33
if you're hurt or you're stressed and you
1:00:36
know that's not the right thing for you.
1:00:39
And I think that that like for us,
1:00:41
it's just about catching people before
1:00:43
they go down that road.
1:00:45
Yeah,
1:00:46
it's really important because once even
1:00:48
you're two steps down the road,
1:00:50
it's really hard to turn around.
1:00:53
Yeah.
1:00:54
Yeah.
1:00:55
Honestly, honest to God, I've lived it.
1:00:58
And I struggle to this day.
1:01:02
Yeah.
1:01:02
To this day with it.
1:01:03
Yeah.
1:01:06
So I don't want to get all emotional
1:01:08
because I'm starting to.
1:01:10
Yeah.
1:01:12
So I love what you're doing,
1:01:14
and I'm glad you hung out with me
1:01:16
tonight.
1:01:17
It's good seeing you, as always.
1:01:20
I always like hanging out with you at
1:01:21
events,
1:01:22
and it was really cool seeing you laugh
1:01:23
and smile and joke around with all of
1:01:26
your competitors at the each group games
1:01:28
this year.
1:01:28
Thanks so much.
1:01:29
It's really great to talk to you.
1:01:31
Always good to see you.
1:01:33
I love your jersey behind you,
1:01:34
by the way.
1:01:35
You like that?
1:01:36
I saw that, yeah.
1:01:38
Well,
1:01:38
it's not in a frame yet because I'm
1:01:40
waiting for it to be signed.
1:01:42
Oh, that's right.
1:01:44
Okay.
1:01:45
So once it's signed,
1:01:46
it'll go into a frame and hang on
1:01:48
the wall.
1:01:50
But I love it.
1:01:51
And everybody's commented,
1:01:52
is that a Will Clark jersey?
1:01:53
Yeah.
1:01:55
Some people have asked if it's a Caitlin
1:01:57
Clark jersey.
1:01:58
No.
1:01:59
That's not even the right number.
1:02:00
Way cooler.
1:02:02
Way cooler.
1:02:03
Way cooler.
1:02:04
Well, thank you, Kelly.
1:02:05
And thank you to everybody in the chat
1:02:07
for being here.
1:02:08
We appreciate you so much.
1:02:09
If you want to check out more of
1:02:10
what Kelly's doing,
1:02:11
go check her out on Instagram.
1:02:13
It's I am Kelly Clark.
1:02:16
I am dot Kelly dot Clark.
1:02:19
Yeah.
1:02:19
Check it out.
1:02:20
She has some stuff pinned up at the
1:02:22
top with all the programs she's doing.
1:02:24
And maybe you'll see her out there at
1:02:26
a seminar sometime.
1:02:28
I hope so.
1:02:29
With that, guys,
1:02:30
we'll catch you next time on Lunch with
1:02:33
Friends or Dinner with Friends.
1:02:35
Bye, guys.