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Starliner Astronauts Are (Not) Stranded! · Made of Stars

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Warning. The following podcast contains an entertaining look at astronomy, physics, and
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space news throughout the known universe. Listeners have been known to learn about astronomical
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phenomenon the scientific method, and expanded vocabulary to include terms like quasar asterism and
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uranus. Listen, that's your own risk. Go ahead. When made of
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stars, made them stars, madies. When made of stars, you could
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be from high they would New Mexicomus, where all stars. When we are
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made of stars. I'm West Carol, joined by my good friend doctor Sean
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Cruising from Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center. Morning Sean, Good
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morning Less. It's great to be here today. Let's talk about Starliner.
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We have been covering the star Liner saga for a while. We got to
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the point where we were talking about the helium leaks as they were preparing to
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launch, and we learned at one point, oh, they're not two leaks,
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there's five leaks. That was sort of a surprise for us because we
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knew about two of them, I guess. And then all of a sudden
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it was like, no, there's five of them, but we're gonna launch
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anyway, and we're gonna be uh, We're gonna be fine. And they've
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you know, they're they're at the International Space Station. They're waiting to come
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home. They were planning to come home, but now they're basically saying we're
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going to delay their return, which has caused the number of media outlets to
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say, uh, oh, they're stuck in space and that is not the
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case, and we have to remind everybody, and I'll let you properly remind
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them. But this is a test mission and they're testing things, and that
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is what has caused this delay. No one is stranded. They can get
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home. They could have already come home. And they're not in any sort
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of danger or any sort of I would think they're probably just enjoying. Like
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if you've ever had and I used to do this all the time, you
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have a work trip to the beach. You know, you know we're gonna
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send you to broadcast from the beach, and you go, well, that
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sounds great. You and I we took a team down and we did a
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broadcast from Kennedy Space Center and it was a work trip. We went and
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we worked and we did recordings, we did broadcasting, we did video,
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We walked around on top of the va B. We had a good time.
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Had we been told, you know what, we're gonna keep you guys
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there for another week, you just stay put, keep on work down there
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for another week, we would have been just fine with that. There was
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no urgency for us to hurry up and come home. And that's kind of
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what they're doing now on this work trip. Yeah. Let me put it
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this way. There's a certain quarterback who plays in the NFL, who likes
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to play for teams that wear green uniforms, and he at one time very
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famously said r E l a X Relax. Now he was speaking to his
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fan base, and it was a it was kind of an important message.
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It was like, look, friends, I know you're getting all up in
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arms, but this is really not the kind of major incident that you're that
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you're thinking it is, or that you're making it out to be. So
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just relax, We're fine. Well, if NASA could be so glib,
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or if they suddenly hired Aaron Rodgers to be their lead press secretary, some
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communication might get issued that said r elax, relax. They couldn't. They
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could hire Frankie Goes to Hollywood. I mean, that's another option. I
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guess I think the message is the same there. I'm not sure. Maybe
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I have to go review that song again. I think that song may have
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been well, never mind, anyway, maybe they should do that too,
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who knows, I don't know. So if you've read the headlines recently stating
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that the astronauts are stranded aboard the International Space Station, no, just no,
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they are not stranded. Friends, They could come home right now.
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Let's just say, oh, I don't know, a piece of space debris
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penetrated the hull of the International Space Station and all of the astronauts had to
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get into their respective spacecraft and fly home in ant emergency situation. Well,
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the two astronauts that went up to space aboard star Liner could immediately do that
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and return just fine, because the engines are working fine, and even the
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leaky tanks are leaking at such a slow rate that they have plenty of helium
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to pressurize their tanks and return home safely. Refer to the podcast that we
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did two weeks ago where we talked about how much excess helium they have aboard
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nearly ten times what they need to return home safely. So so just know
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it's they're not stranded. They are not stranded. Now, are they getting
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to spend a little extra time? Yes, they are. And when I
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say they, I'm speaking of two astronauts in particular. It's Butch Wilmore and
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Sonny Williams. These are the NASA astronauts assigned to the Commercial Crew program working
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with the star Liner spacecraft. And they are safely aboard the International Space Station
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and they're right home. Still works just fine. But they're running some tests
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on it. You know why, because it's a test flight. That's what
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NASA does on test flights. They test things. So they're running some tests
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because because are you ready, it's a test flight, So they're doing tests.
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People. I love it when you almost turn into Brian Reagan. That's
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one of my favorite Shawn's is when you're just right on the cusp of turning
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into Brian Reagan. So this, this, like the the equipment that will
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like ultimately that is having a problem, is not going to return to Earth.
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And that's why they have to do the tests now right. Oh and
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by the way, headline, it was never going to return to Earth.
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It's not returning to Earth by play. So here's the thing. The maneuvering
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engines, which are where some of the leaks are occurring, are on the
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command module, and very similarly to the Apollo program, largely viewed as a
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success by history, where we put human beings on the surface of the Moon,
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that command module didn't come home either, So it's just an engineering design,
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friends, And so they're trying to run tests on the part that won't
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return to the surface of the Earth while they still have it under their control
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aboard the International Space Station. That's what they're doing. Is everything one hundred
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percent? Well, no, that's why they're doing the tests. But that
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does not equate to the astronauts being stranded aboard the International Space Station. Now,
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friends, I'm not going to call out new organizations by name, because
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this is just not the gig that we have here. We're apolitical and we
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tried just to talk about science. But I will tell you that I did
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a Google search this morning on are the star Are the Starliner astronauts really stranded?
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And what I found was all kinds of what I would have considered mainstream
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news outlets saying the Starliner restaurants are stranded, NASA has astronauts stranded in space,
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they're stranded. They are stranded like Gilligan's Island. Quick, where's the
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professor and his coconuts? We got to get back to Earth. Where are
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the globetrotters? I forgot the globetrotters. That was a great one right there.
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How did the globetrotters get to the international space there? Oh, I
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mean Gilligan's Island. I don't know whatever it is. How did they get
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there? Anyway? So listen, friends, listen. I had to go
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find some rather less prominent news agencies. And this where I'm gonna just say
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it right now. ABC Australia. You better be careful. That's a prominent
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news source in this house. Come on now, I mean, so thank
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goodness you're reading ABC Australia because apparently you can get the straight scoop from them
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ABC Australia, ladies and gentlemen. Check it out. They have the real
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story. They actually talk to people from Boeing and have quotes. So we're
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gonna go over those in a moment. Well, you had to go halfway
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around the world, is the important part. You had to go halfway around
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the world to find a news source that's not using it as clickbait, and
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that's what's in. I mean, I did have to escape the news bubble
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from a certain North American country. Yeah, of prominence, Yes, correct.
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I did have to do that because, I mean, you know,
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it's a North American company that we're talking about, it's a North American space
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agency that isn't responsible for the flight. I had to get out of that
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news bubble and actually talk to objective people like ABC Australia apparently who says this.
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I mean they interviewed Boeing people who said this. So Boeing reiterated in
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a statement that the capsules problems aren't a concern for the return trip and quote,
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the astronauts are not stranded unquote from Boeing. Steve Stitch, NASA's Commercial
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Crew program manager. In other words, the person at NASA responsible for whether
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or not these astronauts get home, said this quote, we're just taking a
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little extra time to review all the data and also learn as much as we
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can while we have the service module in orbit unquote. I think he meant
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to say r E lax, yeah, but he said this other kind of
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NASA speak instead. It would be nice if he were wearing a jets helmet
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when he said it. That would also just kind of add to the story.
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So everybody can take a breath. They're fine at the moment. They
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got no concerns. They're enjoying some extra time in space, and they'll get
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their chance to come home very soon. Basically, if they allowed this piece
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of equipment to be destroyed on re entry without studying it, it's the equivalent
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of, well, we're just going to cremate the body before we do the
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autopsy. I mean, that's basically what would be happening. So they're just
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trying to do the proper autopsy so that they're ready to go for next time.
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Forensics. Yeah, forensics, baby, They're doing the proper engineering forensics
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on this particular space module so that they can if there are indeed systematic problems,
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correct those. Again, even if there are systematic problems, they're not
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causing a safety concern at this time. Listen, I'm being really adamant right
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now because these kinds of things make me a little craikray. But I will
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just tell you this. I am not been a big advocate or proponent of
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Starliner. I'm just a little bit of a SpaceX fanboy, but this is
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completely unfair to Boeing, to Starliner, to those engineers, to the astronauts
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onboard, to people at NASA. It's just not fair and it's not accurate,
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and it's relax everybody. I'm making a note to title this episode of
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the show as clickbaity as I can possibly title it. So I'm just giving
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you, I mean, when in America to do exactly. We are part
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of the American media, are we not? Last? We are? In
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fact? All right, let's talk about China because we mentioned a while back
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China was sending a ship to the far side of the Moon to do to
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gather some samples, and that material has has returned or it's in root.
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No, it's already so it all right, So we're talking about like a
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different news bubble according to Chinese media. Now this is a story from space
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dot Com. It's it's other places, obviously, but China's Chang E six
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is the capsule that has returned samples from the far side of the Moon.
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Now this is not a small story. I know we spent a lot of
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time on the previous story, but this is a really this is the major
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headline of our podcast this week. We now have samples for the first time
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ever returned back to the surface of the Earth from the lunar far side.
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Now, don't think pink Floyd. It's not the dark side of the Moon.
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But there is a lighter weight side of the Moon, and that lighter
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weight side always faces away from the from the Earth. So this is the
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non Earth pointing side of the Moon. It's really hard to go land human
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beings there because they would be out of radio contact the entire time they were
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up there. And so because we don't have a work of satellites around the
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Moon, so we sent robots to do these kinds of jobs, and China
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successfully did that right, and so it's part of the Chongi six mission.
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There was a lunar sample collected off the surface. It was returned to orbit
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around the Moon and then returned to orbit around the Earth and then has now
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been dropped into Inner Mongolia. It's a nice place. I understand Inner Mongolia.
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I have visited Outer Mongolia myself. I've never really been to Inner Mongolia
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anyway. So Inner Mongolia is a big desert, part of the Gobi Desert.
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That's the grasslands of Inner Mongolia. Actually, that's where they landed this
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capsule, and Chinese officials have gathered up that capsule and returned it to Beijing.
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In Beijing is the China Academy of Space Technology CAST. I doubt if
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it's that acronym in Chinese, but that's the English acronym for it is CAST.
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So the scientists at CAST have actually opened this sarcophagus capsule returned from the
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far side of the Moon. They did so on CCTV, that is,
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if you can believe the Chinese news networks and their clickbait, if you can
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believe so allegedly Chinese scientists on video have opened this thing and return the sample.
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So now it's gonna be very interesting to see what this sample from the
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far side of the Moon tells us geologically about the Moon itself, about the
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origins of the Moon, and ultimately about the evolution of the Moon Earth system
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in the early part of the Solar system, which is all really fascinating and
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very important to science. And if we can all just put our political arms
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down for a moment and just talk about the science that's happening. China will
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also make these samples available to NASA scientists at some point as well. So
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this is all a good thing for humanity's understanding of our solar system. All
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right, you said that this is a big, the big story, but
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this next one's kind of big too. A new star are in the sky
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and it may be there now. Yeah. So if you've heard the podcast
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over the past few weeks, Wes and I have talked about this topic,
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there's a nova that's about to take place. And not to go too deep
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into the weeds on this, but that's an interaction between a white dwarf and
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red giant pair of stars, and the red giants feeding material onto the white
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dwarf and eventually the white dwarf explodes. Well, scientists have watched these kinds
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of occurrences over the time, over a long time, on many different fronts,
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so they know the pattern with which these things occur. Plus, this
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particular nova, which is called T coronas T. Corona borealis, or we
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know as T. Corbore So T corebor is a star system that we have
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seen go nova in the past a number of times, and so specifically we
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know the pattern on this particular nova star system binary pair, and so professors
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across the country doing research with astronomical telescopes are telling us that they're watching the
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pattern very closely. And now one of the lead professors for this particular object,
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Brad Schaeffer, who is a professor emeritus of astronomy at LSU Louisiana State
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University, has said, Hey, I've been watching this thing since I was
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eighteen years old, and I'm telling you right now I know the pattern and
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it is about to go. In fact, it could even be exploding tonight
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in the nighttime sky. Now, I'm pulling this off spaceweather dot com one
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of my favorite space news websites, and spaceweather dot com actually led with the
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headline by the time you finished reading the story, there could be a new
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star in the night sky, right, So it's eminent. We had been
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talking on previous podcasts about the fact that, yeah, maybe early September we
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should be looking for it. But again the lead scientist now is saying,
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yeah, that might be a little bit of an overest or an overestimate of
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time. It could actually be going off now. So really, as you're
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preparing to watch this with your family, it's quite a spectacle because this particular
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corona T corebor T Corona Borealis is going to be bright enough when it goes
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nova to be visible to the unaided eye. In other words, you can
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go out in your backyard and see a new star in the sky, and
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you want to do this with your family. But to do this you need
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to go look now. So make sure you pull up a star map of
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the constellation Corona Borealis, and then you identify where in the sky that the
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star called T corebor exists. And by the way, spaceweather dot com great
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place to go do that. They have those maps online right there. Make
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sure you see it with your friends before it goes off, if it hasn't
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gone off already, because when it goes off, it should be a spectacular
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event, one that literally is a generational event for you and your family to
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see once again. Schaeffer a quote says, this T core boor will be
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the brightest nova for generations. It's a chance for everyone in the world to
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step outside, look up and see the hell fire. Doctor Schaeffer from LSU.
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I like the I like the verbiage I like, and I also like
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that this thing has like a nickname, has like a street name. You
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know, the T core Boar that's good. It needs you know. It's
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like, you know, we had the other story of a a Ron Rodgers.
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You know, it's like you need a street name. Everybody needs,
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you know, a street name, you know. I mean, I don't
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know ow podcasts. Can we make up our own? Maybe next episode Friends
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will discuss our new street names. We can do that. I like like
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Ludacris, you know, people say Luda, you know, or or you
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could just call him Chris, which is actually his name. That's why he's
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but you know, you got to know that to navigate the street names and
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the the og names. I guess. Hey, coming up after a quick
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break, we're going to talk about the Dream Chaser. We'll get to that
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right after this. So the Dream Chaser space plane, we got another delay
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and that's causing some uh I guess, complications for the Vulcan Centaur rocket.
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So this, let me just say, before we go too deep into this,
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I try to put my personal feelings out there so everybody knows, you
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know, is Cruising a fanboy or is he editorializing or which I do probably
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way more than I should. But let me go ahead and just do it
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one more time. I like Dream Chaser Chaser is a cool spaceship, and
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in fact, it was one of the candidates for the commercial crew program.
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So if we want to talk about you know, you know the pros and
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cons of Starliner and it's much delayed and often maligned existence. They did not
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choose Sierra Nevada's Dream Chaser. They chose star Liner instead. Well, later
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on, NASA and some other private companies said, hey, that Dream Chaser
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spacecraft which comes back down and lands on a runway like a little mini space
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shuttle, by the way, no parachutes and splashdowns or landing on hard ground.
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It rolls on a runway with tires. So that's one of the reasons
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why I like it. It's a little space plane anyway, So they said,
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this is even though we might not carry NASA commercial astronauts in it,
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it's a pretty good vehicle for transporting materials back and forth from lower Earth orbit.
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So there have been a lot of different companies that are interested in working
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with Dream Chaser. The European Space Agency wants to work with dream Chaser,
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and even NASA has now talked about using dream Chaser to take cargo back and
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forth to International Space Station. Okay, well, what was dream Chaser's ride
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to space. Well, it was the Atlas five from United Launch Alliance ULA.
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But ULA is retiring that rocket. So they've said, hey, dream
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Chaser, Hey, Sierra Nevada Corporation, Sierra Space, we want to put
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your new We want to put your dream Chaser on our new rocket called the
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Vulcan Centaur. And so dream Chaser being built by Sierra Space, they had
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to modify some of their some of their equipment, and some of the integration
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hardware to then launch with Vulcan Centaur. Well, they were getting ready to
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do that and they're about to take a test flight this summer when Sierra Space
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ran into some delays. And now the headline is this ULA really wants to
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launch Vulcan Centaur. They don't want to wait. So they were going to
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kind of use Vulcan Centaur and Dream Chaser to be the inaugural flights for Vulcan
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Centaur. But really they're not going to do that. Now ULA said,
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we probably need to go ahead and move on to our US military missions and
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our certifications that we need to complete so that we can fly those missions next
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year. So they need to complete a series of launches by the end of
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twenty twenty four in order to be certified by the US Space Force to be
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able to launch these military missions. So they're gonna bump Dream Chaser and they're
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going to go ahead and fly these other missions instead. Now the ULA CEO,
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his name is Tory Bruno. He made an announcement on June twenty six
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which said these words quote, we are working with Theatar Space to put dream
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Chaser back onto the manifest when they are ready to go. We waited as
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long as possible on dream Chaser, but because we really want to fly them,
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we continue to make oh sorry, and so then, according to space
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dot com, the folks that see our space talking about dream Chaser came back
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and said this, We continue to make excellent progress on dream Chaser and the
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space plane is on track to fly by the end of twenty twenty four.
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So again space dot com has the story. You can check out the ongoing
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evolution of two new spacecraft, one which is a rocket for taking Taylos to
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space. That's the Vulcan Centaur from ULA, and the other is the dream
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Chaser space plane from Sierra Space. They seem to be kind of growing up
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together, but they're having a few growing pains. Read all about it on
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space dot com. It's an exciting time and when you've got more companies that
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are getting involved and more opportunities, it's only going to make things better.
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And that's one of the great things about this commercial side of all of this.
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Let's talk about this black hole that just woke up and astronomers have been
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able to observe this. Yeah, this is a really cool story. I
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pulled it from Universe today dot com. Universe today dot com a great website,
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by the way for checking out all things astronomy related. They also cover
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space exploration stuff, but they really have great stories on astronomy. So some
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astronomers from the Zwiki Transient Facility the ZTF in California have observed a galaxy.
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And now this galaxy doesn't have a name like Dave or Fred. This galaxy
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has a catalog number. It's SDSS thirteen thirty five plus zero seven twenty eight,
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which rolls off the tongue SDSS thirteen thirty five plus zero seven twenty eight,
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which stands for the Sloan Digital Sky Survey. That's what the SDSS is.
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Okay, so it's a it's a galaxy with a catalog number anyway.
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So they were monitoring this galaxy with this Zwiki transient facility, which is a
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it's a telescope system designed to see if galaxies change their brightness dramatically over short
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periods of time and see. The reason they watch a whole bunch of galaxies
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to see if they change their brightness dramatically is because those kinds of galaxies could
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be ones that have super massive black holes in the middle that are doing crazy,
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violent and interesting things. Well, it turns out that SDSS thirteen thirty
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five plus zero seven twenty eight was kind of a galaxy that tended to mind
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its own business. We call it a quiescent galaxy. In other words,
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it really is pretty quiet, it doesn't explode, doesn't have large scale variability
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very often. But they were still monitoring it for activity. When all of
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a sudden, astronomers using this wiki transient facility measured for the first time the
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activation of the supermassive black hole in the center of that galaxy. In other
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words, that big monster down in the core of that galaxy just e in
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brightness by orders of magnitude. There's a scientist named Paula Sanchez Sayes Paul Sanchez
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Sayez, an astronomer with the European Southern Observatory in Germany also monitoring this galaxy.
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The quote was this, imagine you've been observing a distant galaxy for years,
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and it always seemed calm and inactive, and then suddenly its core starts
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showing dramatic changes in brightness, unlike any typical events we've seen before unquote.
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So so Paula Sanchez Sayees was actually the lead author on the study in which
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this data was revealed, and so it's it's something very very violent and weird
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and different. All of a sudden happened in the core of that galaxy,
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and then of course there's light travel time for that light information to get to
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us, but then it did just arrive, and we measured this with our
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observatories. And so the sudden brightening could be due to many things, including,
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according to the universeitday dot com article, the cannibalization of stars and clouds
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of gas that's strayed too near to the central supermassive black hole. In other
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words, the monster's feeding. And yes it's still a black hole, so
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we don't see it grow in brightness. What we see is the light coming
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from that material as it's being sucked down into the black hole before it crosses
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that boundary called the event horizon. So it gets hot because it's getting pulled
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in and increasing in speed. It glows like crazy, and then it's swallowed
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by the giant anaconda at the center of that galaxy, the supermassive black hole,
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never to be seen again. So interesting stuff. A black hole waking
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up from a slumber. Check it out on Universe today dot com. Let's
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talk about the Coca Cola Space Science Center because you guys are you know,
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in your summer mode, and that means you've got folks coming in really to
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check things out, keep their kids' brains engaged while enjoying some of that air
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conditioner that comes with the cost of admission. Yeah. I'll tell you what
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is fun that happens for us in the summertime is do we get a huge
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uptick in the number of people who visit us from other places. They come
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to us from all over the country for a couple of different reasons. Number
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One, they're either coming down for the graduations of family members from the fort
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more training programs that take place in our area. And by the way,
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thank you for the serve, for your service, for all the fort more
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soldiers out there and their families for everything they do for us. We really
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appreciate you. So when those families come in, we really try to take
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care of them. We really try to go the extra mile and show them
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a great time. But another thing that happens is a lot of people are
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headed for the Gulf Coast from states that are north of us, and they're
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going down to visit the beautiful sandy beaches along the Florida coast, or along
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the Alabama coast or wherever. And so they are they're traveling to those places.
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Well, they they say, hey, what can we do? On
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the way down, they pull up the Internet. They find out about the
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coc Cola Space Science Center. We had a gentleman yesterday saying, Hey,
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the whole reason we came to Columbus, Georgia is because we wanted to see
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you guys. We saw this place and went, what, there's a space
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center that we haven't visited before, and it's in Columbus, Georgia. Let's
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go visit there. And they came down and had a great time. We
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talked to them all about the extensive collection of NASA Space Shuttle artifacts and other
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NASA related materials that we have on display in our exhibit gallery. We also
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talked a lot about the Space program because this gentleman had served in the United
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States Navy and had been involved with some of the Apollo and Space Shuttle related
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interactions between the US Navy and NASA. So it was just a fun time
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to catch up to friends. If you live in our community, you might
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forget what a cool facility this really is. Bring the kids down if you
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haven't been down for a while, I promise. We have new things on
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display, including our Guzzle Vortex exhibit sponsored bry Pratt and Whitney, which is
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fun for all ages. But we have lots of new NASA artifacts on display.
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We have a recently upgraded planetarium system. Laser projection tubes in that planetarium
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system make everything look bright, colorful, and crisp. Come down and check
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out a show in the atmosphere, check out our exhibit gallery, get a
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tour from one of the staff members here, and get out of that really
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scorching temperature outside because we have ac on the inside and it's currently working and
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as folks are sort of from outside of the area stumbling into you, guys
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learning about you on your website, and that local folks can learn about different
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events and things coming up on the website as well. Www dot cc SSC
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dot org. Those are initials, friends. They stand for Hoka Coula Space
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Science Center. But for some reason that's hard, So I've said it over
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the phone so many times over the years that I just say it on the
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podcast. Charlie Charlie SamSam Charlie dot org. Type in those initials cc SSC
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dot org and R E L A x per AA, Ron Rodgers, Sean
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and I thank you for listening, and we'll do this again next week.
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