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- 0:00The views expressed on The Big Gay After Show may not
- 0:02necessarily reflect the views of the Nathan B Stubblefield
- 0:05Foundation or those of the staff or management of WM and F Tampa.
- 0:09Listener discretion is advised. No.
- 0:15Rules, no limits, just us. Recorded from the WM and F
- 0:18studios in Tampa. Welcome to the big Gay After
- 0:21show. Welcome to the Big Gay After
- 0:28show. My name is Chris Gorman.
- 0:30I'm your show twink here, joined by the vivacious Vince Wagon,
- 0:33Esme Russell, the trans queen of Radio, and Leo Anderson from the
- 0:38Queer Asian Museum. Welcome into the studio,
- 0:41everybody. Hi, Hola.
- 0:45Hola. Hola.
- 0:46Hola Hola. Miss Esme, how are you?
- 0:50You doing stuff? I'm always doing stuff.
- 0:55Some of it's good, some of it's not good.
- 0:57But being a Sinner. Yeah, I, you know, can I tell
- 1:00you something? What can you tell me?
- 1:02I I kind of like sinning sometimes.
- 1:04Oh, do you? I think we all do a little bit.
- 1:07I I. But well, I don't know if when
- 1:09I'm doing what I do, it's I think it's a sin, but maybe for
- 1:12other people it is. No, everything's a sin.
- 1:14Technically, we're all born with original sin, so everything you.
- 1:18Do is going to hell. We're all going to hell.
- 1:22You're the you're the most not going to help person.
- 1:24I know probably that that I work with.
- 1:27You are not going to me. Yes.
- 1:29Are you serious? Yeah, you're a really nice
- 1:31person. Well, that just means she goes
- 1:32ahead and hangs around with a lot of debaucherous individuals.
- 1:35That's that's kind of what I made-up of my head.
- 1:37No, you're. Not.
- 1:38You're just not a troublemaker, and you're not facetious and
- 1:42you're not shady and you're not mean and you're not you're.
- 1:47Not a bottom. You're not egotistical and
- 1:49you're not full of yourself and you're you're kind of not kind
- 1:54of. You're very compassionate and
- 1:56chill and a nice thanks. Right, Esme, keep sucking his.
- 2:00Dick, that actually makes me feel really good coming from
- 2:02you. Thank.
- 2:03You so much for saying that you are that you are very that yeah,
- 2:05you're not I. Can't agree with the
- 2:06troublemaker part though. But you're just not.
- 2:09You're not arrogant or none of that stuff.
- 2:11I know people that are just much more going to hell.
- 2:14If there is a hell, then you're definitely not on the list to
- 2:17go. No, but can I party cause?
- 2:19'Cause if going to hell means because you live as a man
- 2:23because you were born trans, that's not enough from for my
- 2:25taste buds. I'm sorry, but that's not.
- 2:27Well, we're all like I said, we are joined by Leo Anderson from
- 2:30the Queer Asian Museum. So for those who missed the the
- 2:34main show, who, what is the Queer Asian Museum?
- 2:37What is that? Yeah, so Queer Asian Museum is a
- 2:40little tiny museum on the central 1006 Central Ave.
- 2:45We are a queer museum focus on the multi nation Asian queer
- 2:51history and arts. Do people go in this museum all
- 2:54the time? We have about like 30-40 people
- 2:57visiting every day. OK, that's awesome.
- 2:59That's pretty good. That's actually great, yeah.
- 3:02That's actually that's really cool.
- 3:03And I say that that's really cool because you guys are going
- 3:06to have the Queer Asian Icons event.
- 3:09And again, I want to go ahead and and make sure to highlight
- 3:12that as much as possible because we have two of our own Queer
- 3:16Asian icons. We've got Claire Leeson from
- 3:18Project No Labels and the vivacious Vince Weigen himself.
- 3:23So I, I, I'm very much appreciative of, of, of what you
- 3:26have done for the queer Asian community and just the queer
- 3:28community in general. Because honestly, you know, as a
- 3:31white individual, you know, I need to learn more about other
- 3:35cultures and the other, you know, LGBTQ individuals that
- 3:38make up those cultures. I think everybody goes ahead and
- 3:41has their own sort of internal prejudice and internal
- 3:45understanding of what they feel is, you know, history.
- 3:49So it's important to go ahead and showcase, you know, all
- 3:52aspects of it, specifically in the queer community.
- 3:55So thank you for that. For more information about the
- 3:57Queer Asia Museum. Where can people find that?
- 3:59Yeah, go follow us on the Instagram's Queer Asia Museum or
- 4:04just qam.org. Well, I want to go ahead and
- 4:08highlight this good news story because it started off as one of
- 4:13the one of the story that a lot of people are, are, are
- 4:17struggling with in terms of immigration and everything.
- 4:21But Alan Mario Marrero, a gay immigrant from the Cayman
- 4:25Islands, was released after spending 150 days in ICE
- 4:29detention following a routine green card interview in New
- 4:33York. ICE detained Marrero after
- 4:35discovering an old removal order tied to a missed immigration
- 4:39court hearing while he was in alcohol rehab.
- 4:42He was He and his husband had been married for two years and
- 4:46were attending a marriage based green card interview at and the
- 4:50minister who accompanied the company.
- 4:52The couple described the the the interview process as
- 4:57dehumanizing and barbaric. And I, I want to highlight this
- 5:01story because it, it's, it's the light at the end of the tunnel.
- 5:06It is one of those things where you know, you, there's a lot of
- 5:10bad shit that is happening nowadays, but it's not going to
- 5:15happen forever. It will change.
- 5:17There will be justice and things will get better.
- 5:20And the doom and gloom shouldn't encompass everybody.
- 5:24And I know at least myself, I, I struggle with, you know, the
- 5:29depression of feeling overwhelmed when it comes to the
- 5:32media and, and what's been happening, especially with ICE.
- 5:36But these stories are the important stories because he's
- 5:40free, He's released, he's now not in ICE custody right now.
- 5:44So those are the stories that need to be highlighted.
- 5:47And I'm so glad that we that that he is free right now.
- 5:50Who? Is that the young man?
- 5:52Alex or Alan Marrero. The boy that was sick.
- 5:56No, this is a, this is a, this is a gay individual.
- 5:59Oh. OK, because the boy that was
- 6:01sick, the one that was dying of cancer, so I don't know if you
- 6:05heard that case. So he was dying of cancer.
- 6:08So he he spoke to his parents in Mexico and he told them that he
- 6:14was very close to death. And so his parents try to get a
- 6:19visa to come into the United States, what they call an
- 6:21emergency, like a, a sympathy, a not asylum visa.
- 6:25They didn't want to come here permanently.
- 6:27They just wanted to visit their son, stay for a while, like a,
- 6:31like a humanitarian visa, right. And the State Department
- 6:35wouldn't issue it. Oh, I'm really surprised.
- 6:39So these are the same people that cut off all the food supply
- 6:42to Africa, right, The way they used to send them and let the
- 6:45food rot in the warehouses. We can talk about that another
- 6:48day. Anyway, so his parents did the
- 6:50unthinkable, but the but logically, they came in
- 6:53illegally. And as they were crossing in
- 6:55from the border, they were both arrested and put in an ICE
- 6:57detention center. And they were there for about 90
- 7:01to 100 days while the young man was, you know, dying.
- 7:04So eventually they were let, they were released and they sent
- 7:09them back to Mexico and. They didn't let them to see.
- 7:13They did not let them sow. They finally let him now go to
- 7:18Mexico to see his family because his last dying wish was to see
- 7:21his mother and his father. So he's like very young, like 22
- 7:25or 23 years old. So just he was emanciated from
- 7:30the cancer. So he arrived, I guess yesterday
- 7:35or Mother's Day. He arrived on Mother's Day and
- 7:37he died the following day. So all Mother's Day, he got to
- 7:41spend it with his mother. And there are photos of them
- 7:44hugging. And, you know, the people from
- 7:49ICE robbed them of those months that they were there.
- 7:52And it's just devastating. And we need to highlight the
- 7:55severity. You know, people say that ice is
- 7:57good. Ice is good to a certain degree.
- 8:00I'm not opposed to having immigration, you know,
- 8:04controlling the immigration, the flow of traffic coming into this
- 8:07country illegally. I, I, I can accept that as an
- 8:09American, but we also have to have compassionate laws.
- 8:13We have to have compassionate, compassionate people and
- 8:15circumstances. There are individual
- 8:18circumstances that we need to address.
- 8:19And this is one of those that young man got one day with his
- 8:23family, just one Mother's Day was it, and then he died the
- 8:26following day. But his father was so grateful
- 8:28that they got to be with their son, you know, and all the
- 8:31photos next to the bed and they did videos.
- 8:34And so I'm just so happy that they got, I'm so happy that this
- 8:38young man got to see his mom. They talked about it on The View
- 8:41and every. So that's one of the reasons why
- 8:43the parents got sent back, so they could send him over there
- 8:46because they wouldn't let them meet here.
- 8:49Just just so crazy. I'm just glad that that they
- 8:52were able to see them. They he finally did.
- 8:54He finally did see them so. But it and, and it's also like I
- 8:58said, good because that the, the, the man that was released,
- 9:03he was, he's having like a press.
- 9:04He was having a press conference with his husband.
- 9:06The young man that yeah, so he was he here illegally?
- 9:11He had a green card. He was on green card.
- 9:12He. Had a green card.
- 9:14So allegedly he missed an immigration hearing because he
- 9:18was in rehab. And they, they hang on to any
- 9:23little thing, it could be a parking ticket and they'll say,
- 9:27oh, you got a, you got a ticket. What was a parking?
- 9:29Oh, it doesn't matter. You got a ticket.
- 9:31It's like they're, they're just, they're it's so they're trying
- 9:34to find any little thing to be able to deport because they're.
- 9:36Validate. Yeah.
- 9:37Yeah, because what they're trying to do is they got certain
- 9:39numbers that they're trying to reach, and they're nowhere near
- 9:42those numbers. Or you can go to the hearing and
- 9:44got arrested right there. Yes, exactly.
- 9:47Yeah, That's the other thing that a lot of people are having
- 9:49issues with, is literally going to these immigration hearings
- 9:53and then they picked up some random thing that you would have
- 9:56never thought and. You're doing an issue and you're
- 9:59doing. And you're doing everything
- 10:00right. No, it just, it breaks my heart.
- 10:03It just, we got it. Just I don't know.
- 10:06I I really hope that the the November midterms can go ahead
- 10:10and and get a referendum. So let me ask you this question
- 10:13now that we're talking about this, because this obviously is
- 10:16one of those conversations that upsets people a lot, makes makes
- 10:19you sad or, or there's other things that Trump has done that
- 10:23or the administration has done that's very upsetting.
- 10:26Do you feel under the definition of Trump Derangement Syndrome?
- 10:31Do you feel as an individual that you have it because they
- 10:35say that it's a real thing? Trump Derangement Syndrome.
- 10:38I'm literally looking at. This so.
- 10:41There are a good question though.
- 10:43There are a lot of people who, I, I'm glad that you bring this
- 10:47up. There are a lot of people who go
- 10:50ahead and make because Donald Trump is the head of the snake.
- 10:55Donald Trump is 100% the head of the snake, correct?
- 10:58But I think a lot of people go after the head when they should
- 11:01be going after the body. There is a lot of other
- 11:05individuals and there's a lot of, specifically there's a lot
- 11:09of judges that were appointed by Donald Trump within his first
- 11:12term that are not following the law and not following the
- 11:17Constitution. And those are the people.
- 11:19And I think that the the accountability should be going
- 11:22ahead and falling towards the entire broad system.
- 11:27OK, so. Then no, kill the snake, chop
- 11:29the head off So. Then, well, you can't kill the
- 11:31snake by just chopping the head off this kind of snake.
- 11:33This snake can survive without its head because it's the
- 11:36systemic snake. So then you're going to read the
- 11:38definition of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
- 11:41What is it by definition? It is defined as a form of
- 11:45hysteria or irrational hatred that hampers judgment and
- 11:49perception of reality. So this Trump Derangement
- 11:53Syndrome is a pejorative term used to describe irrational,
- 11:58intense criticism of President Donald Trump, often disregarding
- 12:01his policy act, his policy actions primarily used by
- 12:05supporters to dismiss oppositions.
- 12:07It describes reactions ranging from extreme hostility to acts
- 12:11of aggression. And your question was?
- 12:12So none of us in this room have trumped.
- 12:14Arrangements, I wouldn't think so because honestly, we go ahead
- 12:17and we, in my opinion, we give it both ways.
- 12:20We go ahead and we we'll if, if Donald Trump does something
- 12:23right, which you know, a broken clock is right twice a day, they
- 12:28can we, we will go ahead and give him credit.
- 12:30But more than more than often, more than likely because I
- 12:34don't, he's doing something wrong.
- 12:35So like a perfect examples. I don't like all the attempts on
- 12:40his life. I I'm very I'm very
- 12:43uncomfortable with that. I was very uncomfortable with
- 12:46the Charlie Kirk assassination. I'm very uncomfortable with, I'm
- 12:53very uncomfortable with people posting online of photos of him
- 12:57in a coffin or photos or, or comments like, well, why doesn't
- 13:01he die already? What is he?
- 13:03I'm very, very, very, very uncomfortable with that.
- 13:07Very uncomfortable. I don't think that that's the
- 13:10way to resolve this. OK, as Americans, we vote.
- 13:13I don't, I don't have Trump. I I don't hate him.
- 13:16I just don't like what he's doing, how he's leading our
- 13:19country. I don't like the economy.
- 13:20I don't like, you know, those are the but I don't when I look
- 13:22at him, I don't go, God, I hate him.
- 13:24Like it's it's controlling me. I don't feel that way.
- 13:26I feel, I feel that this is Chris is 1 one of the people
- 13:30that always says it, it will end.
- 13:32This is going to come to an end whether whether he so Chris said
- 13:36earlier today, whether he wants it or not his.
- 13:38Domination is going to end. I want to highlight that his
- 13:42part, his part of it is going to end.
- 13:44But but the the the far right authoritarian movement will
- 13:48never go away. I mean, we've had that in the in
- 13:51the United States for from even the the Confederacy, when the
- 13:55Confederacy. This is the further it's gotten
- 13:57in a long time. Yeah.
- 13:59Yeah, and it really, it's always been here, but this is a further
- 14:04it's gotten but I but again, we can retract it.
- 14:06The people in Hungary did it. We can do it.
- 14:08I agree. Well, I got another story for
- 14:10you. A Polk County man was charged
- 14:12with aggravated child abuse and a hate crime in enhancement
- 14:16after deputies say he abused A5 year old boy because he believed
- 14:20the child was gay. Deputies say Andre Brown Junior,
- 14:2533, admitted he was trying to beat the gay out of the boy.
- 14:28Investigators say that the five year old suffered the most
- 14:31serious injuries including a fractured wrist, bruises across
- 14:35his body, and marks consistent with being hit with a belt.
- 14:39The investigation began after a nine year old girl texted that
- 14:42her mother that she was scared because Brown was whooping him
- 14:45so hard. Deputies say the three children
- 14:48in the home were abused after Brown became angry with the five
- 14:51year old and then starting hitting all three of the
- 14:53children with the belt. The Sheriff Grady judge called
- 14:57it a brutal and hateful attack on a defenseless child.
- 15:00He's currently being held at Polk County Jail and faces a
- 15:03resisting arrest charge. Brown has a lengthy criminal
- 15:06history that includes violent offense offenses such as
- 15:09aggravated battery, kidnapping and home invasion robbery.
- 15:13So these are the people. These are the reasons why we do
- 15:16our show in my opinion, because there are people out there who
- 15:21are so afraid of LGBTQ individuals that they will just
- 15:26go ahead and harm A defenseless 5 year old fucking child simply
- 15:32because of the fact that he might be gay.
- 15:37That's also only a little bit of what his actual, like, history
- 15:40of charges are. Yeah, there's a whole list of
- 15:43felony charges. Like like I said, it's lengthy,
- 15:46but it includes, you know, those aggravated.
- 15:48Guys, he's not a good guy. He is a terrible human being.
- 15:51He is a terrible human being. Let's just start dare.
- 15:54Poor little kid. I fear.
- 15:56Yeah, my heart. Hurts.
- 15:57And I know that this is shocking because I have heard straight
- 16:01people make this conversation, this comment.
- 16:03Now what I'm about to say. But children generally not
- 16:09always are born gay. They don't evolve into gay.
- 16:15This idea that, well, they became gay later.
- 16:17No, children generally are gay. And for example, in my case, at
- 16:23five years old, I was already an effeminate little boy to the
- 16:28point that my parents constantly had to remind me to act like a
- 16:31man. And you know that when you when
- 16:34you grow up hearing that, you know something is not right with
- 16:37you because other children are not being told that.
- 16:40My brother was never told that. Well, I was told.
- 16:42I was told that when I was singing.
- 16:44I feel pretty going down the hallways of Seminole Middle
- 16:47School. I'm.
- 16:47Going to tell you I feel pretty, I feel pretty, I feel pretty.
- 16:49Then what is it? What is it?
- 16:50I feel so pretty and witty and gay.
- 16:54You might as well just want to sign around your neck.
- 16:59You might have just just said it, but no.
- 17:01Just wear a shirt that says I'm with bottom.
- 17:03But listen, you can't. You just, you can't marry a gay
- 17:08person to a woman and make them straight.
- 17:11You cannot therapy. You cannot religion them.
- 17:14There isn't enough Jesus in the world.
- 17:16I was raised in the church. I taught Sunday school.
- 17:20I did everything by the book. I was a person of faith.
- 17:23I was even told by church leaders that persons that that
- 17:30demons in the pits of hell trembled at the name of Jesus.
- 17:34I was OK with that. They also said that a person
- 17:37that was demonically possessed could not claim Jesus in prayer
- 17:41because Jesus would not answer. And so they were trying to fill
- 17:45my mind with the thought that because I was effeminate, they
- 17:48were like trying to fill my mind that I had some kind of demon
- 17:51inside of me that was making me feminine.
- 17:53You know what I mean? Because at that time I was not
- 17:55even admitting that I was gay or trans, whatever.
- 17:58So most trans children start off as gay and then they become
- 18:01trans. It certainly was true for me.
- 18:03And that only is because of lack of verbiage.
- 18:06That's literally only because of lack of.
- 18:08It's the exact, I'm so glad that you said that, Vin, because
- 18:11honestly, what I, I, what really bothers me is the people who are
- 18:15part of the older generation that says why do we have to have
- 18:18all these additional letters and stuff?
- 18:21Well, because, you know, there's people who don't identify as gay
- 18:26or, and they feel as though they identify more so along the lines
- 18:30of demisexual, which is as, as some, as, as an individual who
- 18:35aligns himself with that sort of ideology.
- 18:38You know, I feel significantly more attracted to somebody the
- 18:42more that I get to know with somebody.
- 18:43In fact, I I genuinely don't feel much sexual attraction
- 18:47outside of knowing somebody on that.
- 18:50Person. It's not about sex though, it
- 18:52just identifies your preference. An attraction.
- 18:56Correct. Well, I know I hate to be that
- 18:58guy, but if a woman was, you know, giving me the same way
- 19:03that I, you know, would want, I'd be OK with that.
- 19:06I'm not. I'm not against, you know, so
- 19:08any gender. That's at least from my personal
- 19:11experience. That's why I identify more so
- 19:13along the lines of demo. So you can be you can be
- 19:16straight and still not have sex. Yeah, you can be gay and not
- 19:20have sex. You.
- 19:20Earlier said this is a spectrum. It is a spectrum, but.
- 19:23Like I want to extend that that idea is actually a multi
- 19:26dimensional thing. You have a gender expression,
- 19:29you have your sexual appeal, you have how you like, what kind of
- 19:33position you have, your relationship or molecule or
- 19:36molecule. There's so many dimensions and
- 19:38it's not just even just one line, not just one spectrum, but
- 19:42when you think about a person, there's so much more in it and
- 19:46why, like you said, just use the word gay or fixated about like
- 19:52how many letters are there? Like you're just a coward.
- 19:55I do also find it interesting that so this is coming from
- 19:59someone who's like English as a second language.
- 20:03I find it interesting that native speaking Americans are
- 20:08like, why are we coming up with all of this terminologies all of
- 20:11a sudden? Language evolves like, like it
- 20:15there's there's that's a real thing it.
- 20:17Always. Has and for as an immigrant to
- 20:20come to the United States and to have the argument from a Native
- 20:24American speak like English speaking person wondering why
- 20:27their English language evolves while I had to sit and learn the
- 20:31American language in its modern time and in the process of its
- 20:34evolution as like a Tagalog speaking person.
- 20:38Shut the hell up. It's actually really funny that
- 20:40you bring that up because Shakespeare literally made his
- 20:45own words up because he didn't feel as though there, there
- 20:48there was words to express what himself, what he was saying.
- 20:51Beautiful example. Beautiful.
- 20:53Language absolutely goes ahead and.
- 20:55And all language is created. We're literally making
- 20:58everything up. We're literally making
- 20:59everything up, including this conversation.
- 21:02Literally, we have just decided that these words that we're
- 21:05putting together to communicate with each other are what we need
- 21:08so you we can understand each other.
- 21:10But they were all created at one time.
- 21:12They didn't exist. I mean, at one time.
- 21:15Humanity grunted at each other. You know we still do.
- 21:19By the way, on a good Saturday night with enough fireball, I do
- 21:23a lot of grunting around 2:30 in the morning.
- 21:30Very little talking. It's the only time I don't talk
- 21:32very much. Noted.
- 21:34We learn something more just. Just a lot of grunting.
- 21:39Well, what are we going to talk about when we get back, Miss
- 21:41Azman? We're not going to talk about
- 21:42Trump Derangement Syndrome, I can tell you.
- 21:44That, or you're grunting so. Donald Trump wants to open Fort
- 21:48Knox. I am putting the word out right
- 21:51now. This is not a good idea and I'm
- 21:54saying it. It is not a good idea.
- 21:56So also 1/4 of Americans think that the assassination attempt
- 22:00at the White House correspondents dinner was
- 22:03staged. I'm going to tell you why I
- 22:04think it's really bad that people feel that way.
- 22:06I really do but it but it's good for Trump.
- 22:09It's just bad for us. Trump says that he's going to
- 22:13send an election integrity army. Those are his words into the
- 22:18midterms locations where people are voting.
- 22:21So we got that. And if you owe more than $2500
- 22:27in child support, the Trump administration is now saying
- 22:30they will enforce A991996 law, Bill Clinton law, that says that
- 22:38your passport and your legal documents documentals cannot be
- 22:44renewed. Well, we got all that and more.
- 22:46We also got ABC filing a complaint against the FCC
- 22:50alleging First Amendment violations.
- 22:52We've got Jeffrey Epstein's suicide note released by a judge
- 22:57and we also have the white the the commencement speaker who got
- 23:03stunned when she was made comments about AI.
- 23:07We're going to talk about that after the break.
- 23:09But first, let's go ahead and throw it over to Clara Leeson
- 23:12from Project No Label for our big gay news.
- 23:14And then over to Joanna Grasso for Joe on the go.
- 23:17We'll be right back. I'm Claire Leeson from Project
- 23:23No Labels and this is your LGBTQ plus news from around the
- 23:26country and right here in Tampa Bay in Saint Petersburg from
- 23:30watermark out news. Saint Pete Pride officially
- 23:32kicked off Pride season May 3rd with the 2020 sixth mixed Saint
- 23:36Pete Pride pageant at 1920 Ybor crowning a new Royal Court in a
- 23:40celebration of local LGBTQ plus talent and community.
- 23:43The event built momentum towards next month's 24th annual Saint
- 23:46Pete Pride Celebration and honored the 2025 title holders,
- 23:50including Miss Saint Pete Pride's Seduction, Dickerson,
- 23:52Mr. Saint Pete Pride, the Oscar de Milo and Make Saint Pete
- 23:55Pride Roman Marco Lewinsky. Former Miss Saint Pete Pride
- 23:59Jada Fuentes was also recognized for 15 years of service and
- 24:02impact within the community. During opening remarks, St.
- 24:05Pete Pride President Doctor Byron Green Khalid emphasized
- 24:08the growing importance of diversity and inclusion efforts
- 24:11as state legislation targeting DEI programs continues to impact
- 24:15LGBTQ plus organizations and funding opportunities across
- 24:18Florida. Crowned as this year's winner
- 24:20were ashed in Opulent as Mr. Saint Pete Pride 2026, Emani El
- 24:24Valentino as Miss Saint Pete Pride 2026 and Kenzie de Lavish
- 24:28as Make Saint Pete Pride 2026. Congratulations to all who
- 24:31competed also from Watermark in Key West.
- 24:34Organizers say future Pride related events will no longer
- 24:37receive state funding following the passage of Florida's anti
- 24:40DEI legislation. According to a letter provided
- 24:43to the Key West Business Guild, state funding tied to events
- 24:45like Key West Pride, Tropical Heat and Women's Fest will end
- 24:48beginning 2027 as a result of Senate Bill 1134 and House Bill
- 24:531001. Executive Director Rob Doherty
- 24:56says the change will significantly affect how major
- 24:59LGBTQ plus events in the Keys are organized moving forward.
- 25:03The organizers say this year's these events will not be
- 25:05impacted in Wisconsin. From the Wisconsin Examiner.
- 25:08Governor Tony Ever says his administration has no plans to
- 25:12repeal the state's ban on conversion therapy for LGBTQ
- 25:15plus clients, in a sharply worded response to two
- 25:18conservative groups seeking to overturn the policy.
- 25:21Evers called conversion therapy an outdated practice linked to
- 25:24depression, anxiety, substance misuse and suicide.
- 25:28The dispute follows a recent US Supreme Court ruling that sent a
- 25:31challenge to Colorado's conversion therapy ban back to
- 25:34lower courts for further review on 1st Amendment grounds.
- 25:37And finally, in religious news from the Washington Blade, a new
- 25:40Vatican report acknowledges that many LGBTQ plus Catholics have
- 25:43felt isolated within the church. The report includes testimony
- 25:46from married gay Catholics and appears critical of so-called
- 25:49conversion therapy practices. While the document does not
- 25:52change official church teachings on homosexuality, marriage or
- 25:55gender identity, LGBTQ plus Catholic advocacy groups welcome
- 25:59the recognition and tone of the report.
- 26:01Please remember to stay safe and treat yourself and others with
- 26:03kindness. This has been your LGBTQ plus
- 26:06news for the Big Gay radio show. I'm Claire Leeson on 88.5 WMNF
- 26:10Tampa. Hey, hey Tampa Bay, it's Joanna
- 26:17Grosso with Joe on the go. Tampa Bay.
- 26:19Here's what's happening around the community this week.
- 26:22First up, on Friday, May 15th at 7:00 PM, head to Ten O 6 Central
- 26:26Ave. in Saint Pete for a special celebration honoring queer Asian
- 26:29icons in Tampa Bay. The night will feature
- 26:32performances, storytelling and local talent including Alice,
- 26:35Marine, Grip, Cat, Limb and many more than on Saturday, May 16th,
- 26:38Equality Floors 2026 Saint Pete Gala is bringing the Rainbow
- 26:42Disco theme to town for a night celebrating the LGBTQ community
- 26:46with dinner, dancing, local honorees and a big disco
- 26:49inspired party to close out the evening.
- 26:51Then on Sunday, May 24th at 3:00 PM FGRA Country Sunday is
- 26:56happening at the Garage on Central Ave. in Saint Pete.
- 26:58The Florida Gay Rodeo Association is hosting line
- 27:01dancing lessons, patio hangs, drinks in a super welcoming
- 27:04country style social vibe. For more events, interviews and
- 27:08Tampa Bay happenings make sure to follow Joe on the Go Tampa
- 27:11Bay on Instagram. Have a great week, Tampa Bay,
- 27:14and I'll see you out and about. This is the big gay radio show
- 27:25on 88.5 WMNF. Welcome back to the big gay
- 27:33after show. My name is Chris Gorman.
- 27:35I'm your show twink here, joined by the vivacious Vin.
- 27:37Vivacious you are the vicious. The vicious you are vicious.
- 27:43Now today, Vin. I do feel a little vicious today
- 27:46though, I'm not going to lie. I.
- 27:47Don't growl at them. Craziest.
- 27:49We're also joined by the Trans Queen of Radio the Rabbit
- 27:53herself, Miss Esme Russell. Am I rabbit?
- 27:55Is that it Rabbit? Rabbit.
- 27:57Rabbit like the Bunny? 1st I'm vicious if.
- 28:01I. Now you're rabbit.
- 28:02If I was a furry, that's what I would be.
- 28:04I would be a rabbit. Exactly.
- 28:07Lola Bunny style. And it would be like a girl
- 28:10Bunny like with big, long lashes and everything.
- 28:13It would be just, she would be adorable.
- 28:14And in honor of our Teletubbies, I would have to carry a big
- 28:19purse. Yeah, because I, you know, the
- 28:21Teletubby had that red. Purse the red Purse I.
- 28:23Would have to have it so funny. I would have to have a big
- 28:26purse. My favorite's the one with the
- 28:28circle on his head. I love the one with the purse.
- 28:31I just think he's just it doesn't have like a triangle.
- 28:34I don't remember actually. I remember all the organizations
- 28:37trying to malign and make the Teletubbies like a remember when
- 28:41they tried to make them bad, like they were evil?
- 28:42Yeah. And they were like gay icons.
- 28:45Yeah. Trying to turn get kids gay.
- 28:47You can't turn children gay. You either are gay or not.
- 28:51Yeah, this is nature, not nurture.
- 28:53Yeah, absolutely. Nature definitely not nurture.
- 28:55Well, we're also joined by Leo Anderson from the Queer Asian
- 28:59Museum over in Saint Petersburg. Welcome into the studio.
- 29:02Hello, hello, hello. We're.
- 29:04I'm also Rep it. Yeah.
- 29:07Let's go. Well, I want to go out and give
- 29:09a special shout out to our voice over artist Sean Patrick Kelly.
- 29:13He actually had a exam over in Tampa today and he I'm happy to
- 29:19announce that he passed his registered exterior wall
- 29:22observer exam, which means he can look at buildings as they
- 29:26dry. Be good for him.
- 29:28I'm proud of him. You guys all looking at me like
- 29:31I like. You know that.
- 29:32You know that I'm a fan of Sean anywhere.
- 29:34Y'all don't even know what. I'm not sure when he got it, but
- 29:38it doesn't surprise me Sean isn't.
- 29:39We're not sure what you'd got, but you did it.
- 29:42You did it, but you. Did it?
- 29:43But no, but I'm a fan of Sean. I really like the way he sounds.
- 29:46He got a great voice. He's a very nice looking man.
- 29:49But forget all of that part. The has a great radio voice.
- 29:53Like I really like listening to him when he talks and he does
- 29:56the voice overs and stuff for us.
- 29:58I always go, wow, is that I always ask you right?
- 30:00Is that Sean, because it sounds so professional?
- 30:04Well, I wanted to go ahead and give him a shout out, even
- 30:06though none of you guys in this room know what it what it, what
- 30:09it is. Well, I know what it is because
- 30:10I work in the company. Whatever he's got, we're very
- 30:12proud of him. I'm very happy for him.
- 30:13Yeah, he can watch paint and dry.
- 30:15Good for him. Yeah.
- 30:16Anyways, Donald Trump has announced that gas prices will
- 30:20be falling soon, despite what experts say.
- 30:24Former president or almost four? I said former president.
- 30:28I wish. It was former president.
- 30:29OK, keep putting putting it out there.
- 30:31We're putting it out there. We're putting put.
- 30:32The energy there this is. From your mouth to God's ears.
- 30:35Come on. Come on.
- 30:37Yeah. Well, it is currently surged
- 30:39from 298 per gallon to roughly 423 in just nine weeks, the
- 30:44fastest increase seen in decades.
- 30:47And, and analysis say the spike is obviously done by, you know,
- 30:52what's happening in the Middle East, which is, you know, Donald
- 30:54Trump's fault. I, I hate, I, you know, what's
- 30:58really funny is that we went ahead and were on air regularly
- 31:02during the Biden administration saying the president doesn't
- 31:06control the gas prices well. In this instance it.
- 31:10Seems like he I know I. But but in this instance though,
- 31:13it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's what it is, is something
- 31:16that he did created the problem that the gas went.
- 31:20Up Well, yeah, no. So, so the, the, the situation
- 31:23is, yes, the the president can control the gas prices, he can
- 31:27make it worse. Absolutely.
- 31:28He can't make it better, but he can make it substantially
- 31:31fucking. Worse, in this case, he started
- 31:33a war, which he has not yet. He has given 87 different
- 31:37versions of why he started the war.
- 31:39He still cannot lock down on the reason.
- 31:41Which means if he can't lock down on the reason, there's no
- 31:44reason. He just want he was told to
- 31:46start the war by Israel and that's what he did exactly.
- 31:49So what I want to say is, but in this case he did.
- 31:52The reason gas is going up, it's not because of Biden, It's not
- 31:56because of Obama, OK? It's not because of Clinton.
- 31:59All these little stories that you hear, it's because of him.
- 32:01It's what he decided. It just bothers me because I
- 32:04consistently see conservatives now going up in like a Commons
- 32:07threads and being like the president.
- 32:09You guys were saying that the president doesn't control gas
- 32:12prices for years. Well, we said that we he doesn't
- 32:15control it as a whole, but he can certainly make things a
- 32:19fucking hell of a lot. Worse, he can influence in
- 32:22circumstances create the rise of the gas prices.
- 32:26In this particular instance, he caused a war, and now that war
- 32:30has blocked the straight, the pathway to the oil getting
- 32:35delivered around the world. That's a global problem, and you
- 32:39know what I heard? This morning it is a global
- 32:40problem. I've heard this morning at Asahi
- 32:42News Japanese, they're taking the color out of their potato
- 32:47chips. They're taking image out of
- 32:49their pasta package because they can't afford to put more inks on
- 32:54on the packages. Interesting.
- 32:57Because of the. Just cause of the the straight.
- 32:59Yeah, they can't get all the oil or whatever they want and they
- 33:03have to limit the packaging on their food, isn't that?
- 33:05Crazy. That's why this.
- 33:07Is in China. That's in Japan.
- 33:08In Japan, that's. Wild.
- 33:10Huh, Yeah, I mean I you know those are some things that you
- 33:13don't really think about as like you know that is like a lot to
- 33:17go ahead and and so the make those packaging the.
- 33:19Farmers didn't have oil this year for the planting, so a lot
- 33:23of our crops did not get planted so in the fall and in the
- 33:27winter. We're going to have a deficit.
- 33:29We're. Going to have a deficit in food,
- 33:31there's going to be food. Shortages, which means prices
- 33:34are going to go up. Guess what though?
- 33:35The. Food, the prices of food is
- 33:37definitely going to go up. But you know what we can't
- 33:38afford? According to GOP representatives
- 33:42and senators, they are saying that we can afford $1 billion
- 33:48worth of Donald Trump's ballroom.
- 33:51According to the from the taxpayers, that is what some
- 33:55Republicans have gone ahead and tried doing.
- 33:57They added $1 billion to a budget package for Secret
- 34:01Service security upgrades tied to the planned Ball House
- 34:04ballroom project. Remembered Chris without I'm
- 34:08sorry to interrupt you, but remember you hold your spot
- 34:11there, but remember that the the his donors were going to pay for
- 34:16this. So the I will go ahead and I
- 34:19will, I will put a little bit of a, you know, attack in that.
- 34:24He did say the ballroom. He didn't say what was
- 34:26underneath the ballroom, so that is a little semantic, but it and
- 34:33honestly what there's a there's a security bunker underneath the
- 34:37of where the bomb. What now?
- 34:38Know that man? Know that there's a massive
- 34:40security bunker under the White House.
- 34:42It's like massive now. Oh, that's been public
- 34:44information for a long time. And it's going to connect with
- 34:47the already existing 1, so we're gonna actually connect it.
- 34:50But Vin for, for since you didn't know the, the last time
- 34:54that that that bunker, the last time they approved, they were
- 34:58approved for like a large spanning remodel was 1950.
- 35:05So I kind of that's where I'm like, if, if another president,
- 35:10if, if, if Joe Biden or Obama or even Bush or Clinton were to
- 35:16have gone ahead and been in office and said, hey, the last
- 35:19time that we had upgrades to this secure bunker, which should
- 35:24be hosting, you know, the, the, the nation's top leaders.
- 35:29If they said that that the last time that that was upgraded was
- 35:311950 and they need to upgrade the fuck out of that, I would
- 35:35understand it. The ballroom on top though,
- 35:38that's some bullshit and don't need a billion fucking dollars
- 35:40for but I. Have a moment where you just
- 35:43want to like put everything down and walk away.
- 35:46Chris is right. Just had that moment.
- 35:48You're right that he it was, it was never the the bunker was
- 35:52never discussed. It was just the top level.
- 35:54Yeah. That's all so.
- 35:56The ballroom will be about 400 million.
- 35:58So that's where I go ahead. And I, I mean, I'm not going to
- 36:03say that it would cost a billion dollars to upgrade the, the
- 36:06bunker. I don't know anything about the
- 36:08fucking bunker apart from the fact that it exists and that
- 36:11they've confirmed that. It so I know that it's
- 36:12connecting with the existing bunker.
- 36:14I don't know so that So what they're going to make is more
- 36:17rooms. They're going to be, you know,
- 36:19areas of entertainment, of security areas, computer areas.
- 36:24I guess they're going to, you know, they're going to make us
- 36:26something, something for of that.
- 36:29In case of a nuclear war, the president and the administration
- 36:32can go underground. Yeah, just worry about my money.
- 36:35That that, but and is it now? Is now a good time to do it
- 36:39though? And you're exactly right.
- 36:40I don't think now when we're dealing with the Strait of
- 36:43Hormuz, closing gas prices, doing exponential, all the
- 36:48issues that we're currently having, I mean, we're $49
- 36:50trillion in debt or some shit. Why do you think we're upgrading
- 36:53a bunker right now? Are you enraged yet?
- 36:56No. No.
- 36:57So 'cause I'm gonna say, let me know when you reach the Trump
- 37:00Derangement Syndrome level. We.
- 37:04Can discuss a thing that doesn't exist.
- 37:06I'm trying. That's why I asked.
- 37:08Are you enraged? Like you, I'm not enraged.
- 37:12You, just like you can't take it anymore.
- 37:14I would like to, to get more information about what the
- 37:17specific to fix upgrades would actually cost.
- 37:20Because if we're going to go ahead and add like $100 pens in
- 37:24there, then that's not a beneficial use of the billion
- 37:27dollars. But if we're going to upgrade
- 37:29the walls and make it so that it's actually secured for not
- 37:32just, you know, Trump, but all future presidents that I'm, I'm
- 37:36fine with. I'm, I'm down, but I don't think
- 37:39it's going to cost a billion dollars.
- 37:40I don't think it should cost a billion.
- 37:41Dollars one of the reasons why we're having this conversation
- 37:45is the same reason that 1/4 of Americans think that the
- 37:49assassination attempt on the White House correspondents
- 37:52dinner was staged and that is because this administration in
- 37:58particular him Trump himself has lied so much to the American
- 38:03people. We just don't believe nothing
- 38:05they say. We just don't believe it.
- 38:08So if right now you said it could be true, there's a flyer,
- 38:12flying saucer hovering over the White House.
- 38:15Everybody would say, Chris, I don't be the first one to go
- 38:19distraction, distraction. Chris always does that.
- 38:21Distraction, distraction because that's what it is.
- 38:23It's another distraction. It's another.
- 38:26You see the UFO things that they released the other day?
- 38:30Every photo in those UFOs is stuff that we already know.
- 38:33We've seen unidentified flying objects before.
- 38:36We already know that there is something out there, we just
- 38:38don't know what it is. Nothing new was revealed.
- 38:41Did did you see any photos of aliens?
- 38:43Did they say yes, aliens exist? We've had some.
- 38:46No, they didn't release anything.
- 38:47It's just another distraction. While we're still waiting for
- 38:50the. Chris always screams
- 38:51distraction. Distraction goes.
- 38:53Well, it's what they want to do. The, the, I mean, Jim Bannon, I,
- 38:58I think is, is what his name is. I forget his name.
- 39:00Steve Bennett. Thank you.
- 39:02He has gone ahead and talked about how his the the plan for
- 39:07the White House and the presidency and the Republican
- 39:09Party is to flood the media with as much information as possible.
- 39:13So it basically goes ahead and makes people feel overwhelmed to
- 39:17the point where they feel like they have no way to go ahead and
- 39:20fight back. They want you to give up your
- 39:23vote. They want you to feel as though
- 39:25there's nothing that you can do. But in reality, what you can do
- 39:29is you can get your ass out and vote.
- 39:30You can go ahead and canvas for people.
- 39:32You can make. You can do what the Hungarian
- 39:34people did and get the fuckers out of office.
- 39:36So here's another distraction. You want to hear another
- 39:38distraction? What's this?
- 39:40Trump says he will send an election integrity army into
- 39:43every state during the midterms. That is a distraction.
- 39:47That is a exactly what Chris just said right now to make
- 39:51people feel like they don't have to get out and vote.
- 39:53Why should I get out and vote? It's going to be scary out
- 39:56there. There's going to be men with
- 39:57guns standing outside my voting place.
- 40:00It's not. Not worth it.
- 40:00I'm just not going to go. That's what they want you to do.
- 40:03I'm going to point out a couple of things here.
- 40:06Go for it. First and foremost, his ear is
- 40:08intact, OK. Well, he says that he that it
- 40:12grew back. Yeah, these nuts, his ear is
- 40:15intact. Let's, I'm going to leave that
- 40:17there, OK #2 He. Could be part lizard.
- 40:21You know I'd be damned, I'd be damned.
- 40:23Well, they've been saying that Hillary's a lizard person.
- 40:27Why couldn't? Trump be why?
- 40:28Couldn't Trump exactly, he said, to drain the swamp, But he's the
- 40:32lizard. He's a he's part of the swamp.
- 40:33The ear grew back. He's part lizard.
- 40:35OK, next. Have you ever?
- 40:38Have you ever? Do y'all have first aid kits at
- 40:40home? Yes.
- 40:41OK, when was the last time you touched your first aid kit?
- 40:44I haven't touched it in years. Regularly because I have cats
- 40:47that attack me. Right, but you only touch it
- 40:49when you're damaged and you need it I.
- 40:51Haven't touched mine in years, but by the way, I'm glad you
- 40:53said that to me because I'm going to go check on it, make
- 40:55sure things are fresh in there. You're going to check on it to
- 40:58update it though. But you don't.
- 40:59But you didn't think about that because I'm until I mentioned
- 41:02it, right? I haven't thought about.
- 41:03It. Yeah, and the only time you'd go
- 41:04to check on it is when you need it because something bad
- 41:07happened, correct? Why do we need to go and upgrade
- 41:10a bunker? Just think about that for a
- 41:13minute. I mean, why do we have a bunker
- 41:15in the first place? You're absolutely.
- 41:17Right, so the SO. You're absolutely right.
- 41:19No, I'm not the reason why I'm saying it was.
- 41:22Built. We were under threat for a
- 41:24nuclear war well at the time because we had just bombed
- 41:27Japan. So why are we upgrading a bunker
- 41:30right now of. All the time we've been under
- 41:32threat of nuclear war. So you're so exactly so.
- 41:35The important thing is, is that I in every instance, I still
- 41:40think that the most powerful individuals that are running
- 41:43this country absolutely should have.
- 41:47Even if we're not in wartime, even if we're there is no
- 41:51imminent threat, the having the preparation is absolutely
- 41:56necessary. Oh, I'm not taking away from the
- 41:58necessary, the necessary like demand to be prepared.
- 42:01I'm not taking away from that, OK.
- 42:03I'm saying if we're talking about upgrades, why haven't we
- 42:06been doing it as the years go by?
- 42:09Why all of a sudden we're making us that this shit that's like
- 42:12it's just something that key. It's just.
- 42:14Interesting to put a lot of presidents, a lot of presidents
- 42:17specifically. Like I know Obama wouldn't have
- 42:20done it because he went in and he doesn't care.
- 42:22No, he inherited a a recession and was in a very bad economic
- 42:28state. So going ahead and upgrading the
- 42:31ballroom would have been essentially a fuck you to the
- 42:34American people. And Donald Trump doesn't think
- 42:36like that though. Well.
- 42:37He's a Donald Trump president anyway.
- 42:39Donald Trump is going ahead. He.
- 42:41Doesn't He's a lame drug president.
- 42:43You guys are literally saying my point.
- 42:45You guys are literally, you guys understand this point, Yeah.
- 42:48They he doesn't care about public opinion.
- 42:51Yeah. Yeah.
- 42:52So they're before he can go ahead and do something that he
- 42:55wants to do, like putting the bunker honestly.
- 42:59And he has said that other presidents and other individuals
- 43:02that have been in the White House, and not just presidents,
- 43:05but other people, media personalities, individuals that
- 43:09are just going ahead and taking tours of the place, there's been
- 43:11a lot of people that have mentioned that there should be
- 43:15some sort of ballroom or event space.
- 43:17All I'm saying is that I. He's not the first one that is
- 43:20thought about it absolutely been talked about by other.
- 43:23It has absolutely been talked about by other presidents, but
- 43:26the active investment would have been suicide for any political
- 43:32candidacy, especially one where you're inheriting A substantial
- 43:39economic issue. Like Obama did.
- 43:41Like Biden did, Like Bush did, Like every other president in
- 43:45the most recent eras. He wants the arch, he wants the
- 43:48fountain. What is it?
- 43:50The reflecting pool, which now he calls the reflect.
- 43:54It's it's always been called the reflecting pool because the
- 43:57bottom of it was supposed to be like a mirror.
- 44:00And. Now it's called the reflection
- 44:02pool. He's changed the name of it.
- 44:04I don't know why he's done that, but.
- 44:06I don't think he realizes that though.
- 44:08I feel like his stupid ass probably thought of it.
- 44:11Thought it was reflection the entire time.
- 44:12Not reflection. It's called the reflecting.
- 44:15He probably, he probably heard it once and was like, oh, it's a
- 44:18reflection thing, the reflection.
- 44:20With all that being said, I'm actually with Mr. Wayne on this
- 44:23thing. I just, I've seen, OK, I
- 44:26respectfully, I have seen cowards go punch someone and run
- 44:30away and go hide. And that's what this is.
- 44:33That's what this feels like to me.
- 44:34It feels like he started a war and now he knows that the war
- 44:39has started at his catalyst and now where he's trying to find a
- 44:44way to keep himself safe with the money that he doesn't have
- 44:48well. If that was if that was the
- 44:49case, then he would be in the bunker every single time.
- 44:52Now he the bunker still exists. No, we're not making a new
- 44:55bunker. He's.
- 44:55Not he's not in the bunker now because he needs propaganda.
- 45:00He has a intact ear, bro. His ear is intact.
- 45:03He needs to be on the media. Not really following your logic.
- 45:06But you gotta realize it is intact but it because it grew
- 45:09bad. You're right, they're.
- 45:11Just I'm, I'm not really, I'm not following the logic though,
- 45:13because if he, if he's, if he's, you know, so afraid of having,
- 45:17you know. Preparation bro.
- 45:19If, if everybody, if he's so afraid, then why is he going
- 45:22ahead and, and using the motorcade to drive over the
- 45:24reflecting pool? If he's so afraid, you know, why
- 45:27is he still making these public appearances where these
- 45:30assassination attempts can't happen?
- 45:32So. Is this what derangement feels
- 45:34like? So it's, I think, I think Vin,
- 45:37Vin, I think you might be feeling a little bit Trump
- 45:39derangements. Arrangements.
- 45:41Because honestly, I, I think that you're making theories up a
- 45:44little bit too much. Just respectfully, I love you,
- 45:48but I think it's a little bit too much.
- 45:50I'm just. Going to mention that President
- 45:52Xi and President Trump is about to meet tomorrow.
- 45:55Yes, I know that. Oh my gosh, you're right.
- 45:58Can I? Tell you something, a poll was
- 46:00taken recently by Fox News. Did you know that President Xi
- 46:06is more trusted than President Trump?
- 46:11Well, we got 8 minutes left before I want to go ahead and
- 46:14end the episode, so we need to do rapid fire as May.
- 46:17So go ahead, throw out your topics.
- 46:20So Trump says that he was. We all did the integrity.
- 46:24It's a 2500 if you owe $2500 in child support.
- 46:30Your your visas, your what is it your passport?
- 46:35Legal documentation. You can travel with will be
- 46:39vetoed, will be cancelled out. So but this is already a this
- 46:43was already a law enacted in 1996 by the by the Bill Clinton
- 46:49administration. So again, in Chris's words,
- 46:52distraction. This is just a distraction
- 46:56something else to throw in the news.
- 46:58So we're we're not talking about the war, the economy and
- 47:02gasoline. I'll be honest, I I completely
- 47:06agree that if you have child support payments you shouldn't
- 47:09be able to have a passport. Inside the country I.
- 47:12Totally agree. With that, I'm totally 100 and
- 47:14what I'd like is for that law to be enforced.
- 47:17So maybe that's what he's talking about.
- 47:18Sorry, sounds like social credit in China.
- 47:22We're really going to go there. So yes and no, I kind of get it
- 47:28a little bit in terms of social credit.
- 47:30The reason why I say no is 'cause I mean, I didn't, I, they
- 47:34chose to have the child. That was their choice.
- 47:37If every single person was assigned that, you know, amount
- 47:40like like told to like that you had to go ahead and pay some
- 47:44sort of amount, then I kind of get it.
- 47:46OK, and my final one is Trump is going to open Fort Knox girl.
- 47:54With. I can't even believe I'm saying
- 47:56this to see if the gold, the $700 billion in gold is still
- 48:01there. By the way, 700 and $700 billion
- 48:04wouldn't pay our national debt. It's not even the tip of the
- 48:08iceberg that's helpful. Where are the trillions now?
- 48:12So I don't even know why he needs to worry about this.
- 48:15Maybe it's better that we don't know what's in there. 38.93
- 48:19trillion, that's where we're at. That's how much in debt we are.
- 48:22So 700 billion isn't going to pay for our debt, national debt.
- 48:26So why is he worried about what's in there that doesn't
- 48:29even scratch the national debt's butt hole?
- 48:32The US Mint has said that Fort Knox holds 147.3 million ounces
- 48:38of gold with no significant transfers but.
- 48:42If you think about finding the gold and then rebuilding the
- 48:46bunker like when you put those two together.
- 48:50Together, he wants the money so that he can hide in the bunker,
- 48:53so that when we when everything gets blown up, he's got those.
- 48:55Are some of the most biggest conspiracy theorists I've ever
- 48:58fucking met. You guys literally are
- 49:00experiencing Trump derangement. Syndrome have it and I didn't
- 49:04even know I had. It you guys got the Trump
- 49:06derangement. You chop off my ear and see if
- 49:08it'll grow back. I'll.
- 49:09Shoot, because you're not Trump. You got to, you got to shoot
- 49:12off. Are you part lizard?
- 49:13That's right, I got to be part lizard.
- 49:16You don't want that blood in your veins.
- 49:18No, no, I don't want that blood in my veins.
- 49:20You're. Right.
- 49:21Well, I want to go ahead and highlight the a new show from
- 49:26Fox is called The Nation's Dumbest, where it's going to to
- 49:30try and find which celebrity is basically stupidest.
- 49:34Donald Trump. And so we found him.
- 49:36The Season 1 cast actually surprised me a little bit
- 49:41because somebody accepted to doing it that I didn't accept.
- 49:45Expect Andrew Yang, the former presidential candidate.
- 49:50What about? Him, he's, he accepted the to,
- 49:53to to be a contestant on the nation's dumbest show, where
- 49:58it's essentially like they're going to reward contestants for
- 50:04avoiding being called the smartest person in the group.
- 50:07So if you're the smartest person, you get eliminated.
- 50:10So I think Andrew Yang is probably going to lose this.
- 50:13Andrew Yang's a smart fucking guy.
- 50:16Other contestants include JoJo Siwa, Stevo L King, Ice T,
- 50:23Carmen Electra, Anthony Michael Hall and among others.
- 50:28So ice TI think that. I would love some iced tea.
- 50:32Do you know where we can get some?
- 50:34I don't know, but I think that either iced tea or JoJo is
- 50:37probably gonna go ahead and and take the cake on this one.
- 50:39Or maybe tea is an. Intelligent man, really, is he?
- 50:42Yeah, he is. He is really.
- 50:45Yeah. Well, don't let the.
- 50:47Don't let the appearance I. Think it's more like the long
- 50:49lines of like the trivia aspect. Ice tea.
- 50:52Ice tea. He's married to that show.
- 50:55Beautiful blonde Boncho, so I hear.
- 50:57The SO I hear from people that work with him on when they
- 51:01worked with him on what is it, SUV in order Yeah, that he has a
- 51:06photographic memory. Really.
- 51:07And that he's intelligent, that. He can that, he can.
- 51:10He reads his lines once or twice and can memorize.
- 51:14Them Well then I retract my statement and I apologize I so.
- 51:17I have a photographic memory is very.
- 51:19JoJo Siwa or Carmen Electra or my 2 choices.
- 51:21I know that Bill Clinton had had that and Bill Clinton could
- 51:25memorize his speeches like that. So, and very unusual.
- 51:29Not everybody can do that, you know, to read your speech and
- 51:32then be able to recite it back by memory.
- 51:35And yeah. Yeah, he was one of the few.
- 51:38I read it in some article a while ago, like a long time ago
- 51:41'cause I I love Law and Order SVU but he was one of the few
- 51:44actors that they didn't have to repeat scenes.
- 51:47Shirley Temple as a little girl. That had.
- 51:51A photographic memory with lines.
- 51:52But her photographic memory was crazy.
- 51:55She could learn everybody's lines.
- 51:57So when the director said, you know, start the filming, if you
- 52:02said your lines wrong, she'd go. That's not what it says.
- 52:04You got to say she would correct the other actors because she had
- 52:08a memorizing. Because she knows isn't.
- 52:10That crazy? Yeah.
- 52:12Yeah, I do. So children can be born with
- 52:14that. Well, I got another topic for
- 52:16you guys. the US Department of Education has an opened a Title
- 52:199 investigation into Smith College over its policy of
- 52:22admitting transgender woman. Federal officials say the probe
- 52:25will examine whether the all women's college violated sex
- 52:28discrimination rules under Title 9.
- 52:31Trump administration argues the law's exemption for single sex
- 52:34colleges applies only on the basis of biological sex.
- 52:39I would like to go ahead and get your opinion, Mr. Vin.
- 52:41I fucking hate this place. That's my opinion.
- 52:44I fucking hate this place. So I would never go to a place
- 52:46where I'm not welcomed. Correct.
- 52:48Well, this person, So the the The thing is, is that this it is
- 52:53an all girls college. It's all women's college and
- 52:56they accepted the trans woman. They wanted to have this trans
- 53:01woman be in attendance. Because diversity.
- 53:03Because diversity, the Trump administration is the one who
- 53:06doesn't want it. So it's not that you wouldn't be
- 53:09wanted there. It's that the Trump
- 53:11administration doesn't want. You So the school wants it, the
- 53:13student wants it, the organization has no problem with
- 53:17it. But the Trump Organization comes
- 53:19out of nowhere. Privately owned college I
- 53:22believe. So.
- 53:23Because if it's a privately owned college, they don't have a
- 53:25standing, you know what I mean? They really don't.
- 53:29The Trump Organization administration.
- 53:31They don't have a standing, correct?
- 53:32You have a privately owned college, correct?
- 53:34You know, and the girl enters the you know.
- 53:37Yeah, it doesn't. Say like, who are you to think
- 53:38you can just walk anywhere and be like, hey, we don't like
- 53:40this. Like I don't.
- 53:41Even go here I wouldn't want to go to a woman's only college
- 53:44only because I like being around male energy.
- 53:47So Smith College is a private school.
- 53:48Yeah, I, I like being around male energy as well because I
- 53:51can feed off of it because my energy is not as strong in that
- 53:55way. You know, that's why I, I love
- 53:57my, my gay male friends because they have a different energy by
- 54:01we have similar, but then there's different 'cause they're
- 54:03boys, right? So and they live as boys.
- 54:06I don't live as a boy, so it's a different, it's a different
- 54:10take. So I like that.
- 54:11I like that. Don't you like being around
- 54:13women? I do enjoy, yeah.
- 54:14I find that like since I started my transition, my confidence in
- 54:19my femininity has strengthened in me transitioning into my
- 54:23masculinity. But do you enjoy being around
- 54:25females? Yes, 'cause I enjoy being around
- 54:27men. Yeah, yeah.
- 54:28But I do also find that my confidence is different in
- 54:32comfortable ways. I wouldn't.
- 54:34Be I wouldn't be that confident if I lived as a boy.
- 54:37Saying yeah, I agree, I agree. I don't think I would be as
- 54:40confident as I am around women now if I was a female.
- 54:43Well, it just it doesn't feel the same it.
- 54:46Is that time my friends? It is the end of the episode, so
- 54:50I want to go ahead and what? Does adios mean Chris?
- 54:53Yo, Mama. Yo, Mama.
- 54:55No, Chris, that's not what Chris and his teacher that over there
- 54:59at the University of South Florida that we're still trying
- 55:01to find out what kind of Spanish she's teaching.
- 55:03Oh God. Anyway, finish your thought
- 55:05Chris. Well.
- 55:06Leo, thank you so much for joining us For more information
- 55:09about the Queer Asian Museum. Where can people find it?
- 55:12Again, it's a Instagram Croatia museum or qm.org.
- 55:18Awesome, and so thank you again. It's been truly an absolute
- 55:22honor to be able to interview you because honestly, it is a
- 55:25very important thing that what you're doing and you know, we
- 55:29need to go ahead and highlight more historical aspects of
- 55:32different cultures. I mean, you know, I, I think
- 55:35that the, that history has been very whitewashed, especially
- 55:38LGBTQ history, which is actually really interesting because
- 55:41we're, you know, our own minority group and yet it's been
- 55:44completely whitewashed. And yet, you know, the reason
- 55:47why we started our fight for rights was a black trans woman.
- 55:51So I think that, you know, we need to continue to highlight
- 55:54all aspects of the LGBTQ community.
- 55:57So thank you again for for what you what you have brought to the
- 56:00discussion. Then one more time.
- 56:03What's going on this Friday? So I'm really excited because
- 56:06I'm going to be with Leo at the Queer Asian Museum on Friday
- 56:10from 7:00 to 9:00. We are hosting the Queer Asian
- 56:13Icons and just want a really quick shout out, Happy Asian
- 56:17American Pacific Islander Heritage Month, and we see you.
- 56:20We love you. You deserve to exist.
- 56:22It's also Mental Health Awareness Month and it is Mental
- 56:26health providers appreciation day, So thank you so much for
- 56:30everybody that is stepping up and creating a safer place for
- 56:33humans to exist in this world. Absolutely Esme.
- 56:37Any last minute thoughts? No, but please register to vote.
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- 57:04Hope you have a wonderful rest of your.
- 57:06Day love you. Bye, adios.