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A.I. EP. 229: “I’m Your Huckleberry” - Tombstone 30th Anniversary · The Avid Indoorsmen

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The sun is shining other clot in the sky. We wouldn't know because we're
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so happy inside. Some people on some skis, but we would rather sit
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on down and talk. Some movies. Were the Avid Indoorsment. Come listen
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to our show. We're the Evid Indoorsmen at home on the go. We're
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the Evidendorsment. We hope you love it, so come on in and stay.
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We'll do our best to make you smile. Where the indoors Man?
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What is happening? I'm Rob Lundqrist and I'm Bug and we're the Avid Endorsement.
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How are you, bud Hi? I'm doing pretty well, just living
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the life. How are you? I am good? I'm fresh from a
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haircut. I know you look so nice. Got sure and like about forty
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minutes ago and just came straight to this pod looking fresh, looking clean,
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got the new glasses. Life is good. Up in their things are good.
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We we just started our Christmas tour. Yeah, how was it?
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Did the first five shows? Did? The first week? It was good?
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I think we figured out what the set list is. You know those
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first couple you're like, oh, yeah, you think you know what it
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is, but then you're like I didn't really hit there, yeah, switch
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out, uh, and then not to mention being like what is next?
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Now? All that was felt like I found myself thinking that halfway through the
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song, like before it, and then I'd be like, you really need
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to sing this song though first? And then yeah, did you guys know
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put a set list out? Did you just keep it tonight? We did?
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Okay? You know, I always did all the chit chatting and stuff,
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so I was like, every once in while, I find myself like,
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oh, I wonder what I should talk about, and we're like,
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oh, maybe maybe sing the song. First sing of this song. That's
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why we're here. Yeah, But the first five shows went really well.
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That's awesome. Yeah, that's awesome. I'm excited I get to see you
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guys on Saturday. I'm excited to see you on side. Oh yeah,
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buddy, great, it's gonna be great. That'll be super fun. How
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about movies? Have you watched any movies? While? Thank you for asking.
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The one that I'm going to talk about, I was not on the
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road. It was right before I left. It was it was just before
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Thanksgiving and I went and saw the new Paul Jamatti movie called The Holdovers.
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Oh, that looked kind of cute and weird. So I'm excited to hear
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what you think. Yeah, buddy, So it's called The Holdovers. It
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might still be in the theaters by the time people are are listening to this.
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It's directed by Alexander Payne, who directed him in Sideways back in the
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day, which kind of really gave him his breakout role. Yeah, totally,
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and honestly, this movie, this role might be my favorite from Paul
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Jamadi, which is high praise. That's so great because he's been kind of
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hit or missy. I would agree lately, I would agree with that big
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just like you know, but like he had a string where it was just
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like he can't do wrong, and ye he then he found the wrong way
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a few times and now he's back. He figured it out how to do
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it incorrectly, and now it's pretty great. Dude. He plays this this
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grumpy professor at a boys boarding school. It's set like in the early seventies.
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He has one messed up eye and I'm assuming it was like a prosthetic,
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but if he was like just say, like, is this an on
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purpose thing? What's happening? Yeah, it's definitely a part of his character
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for sure. It is heavily featured in these promo pics big time. Yeah,
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okay, cool, but dude, he's awesome in it. And then
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there's also her name is Divine Joy Randolph, who you've seen. Yeah,
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she's great and a few things, and she is brilliant in it. I
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wouldn't be surprised if we see some nominations actually, really like that's cool.
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Tis the season, right, and I haven't seen a lot that have got
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me all pumped up, so it is wonderful dude for that. It's definitely
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like you know, it's just set over like a week and it's like Christmas
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break and so it's kind of a holiday movie but a lot of part some
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drama. You're gonna get some boohoo's in there. Of course, I loved
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it. I really did love it. The even the the trailer was like,
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oh, this looks kind of fun. Yeah, like I said,
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kind of weird, so I wasn't sure. Loved it. That's great.
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Loved it and it's getting wead to see it high nineties on Rotten Tomatoes,
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so I'm not alone. Yeah, see, have you watched anything fun?
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Yeah? I on HBO Max This last weekend, I watched A Blue Beetle.
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I downloaded and still haven't watched it. How was it? It's fun,
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man, I actually really liked it. I think Noel told us right
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one of our Q and a's or something that he really liked it or they
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really liked it, and I'm I'm on board. I thought it was really
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fun. It's it's an interesting story because this is another one of those comic
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book ones where I'm like, I have no freaking idea, like, no
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history with this character, no anything right, but really fun. Jamie Reyes
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is the character's name. Zolo Mara Duena is the actor. I thought he
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was really good, pretty pretty charismatic, had great relationship with his family.
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It was the family that really stood out in this one for me. And
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just a bunch of really fun people. George Lopez is in it, Adrianna
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Barasa is in it. She's super fun. And then just yeah, a
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bunch of other people that I sort of knew but didn't know super super well.
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Our guy Harvey is it. Gienne isn't it From what he doesn't have
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a big part, but it's always just such a joy to see him now,
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and I'm just like, yes, keep getting parts. I need to
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see you do more things. You're so delight not you Girmo, not you
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Ghermo, not not again, not now? But yeah, super fun story.
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It's what is it? It's just over two hours, which actually seems
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pretty brisk considering like you really have to tell us everything about this characters,
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like I don't know anything about it, you know what I mean, Like
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you can't cut a lot of corners. I thought it was fun, don't
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I don't know that Alex stood out as a superhero movie, but it was
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really fun to see that sort of like Latin America heritage family unit stuff that
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was in there. That was the most fun part, I thought. And
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it was really cool and everybody was great. I thought it was really good.
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I hope they continue on. I don't know if I know. This
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one was sort of in the in between where they were like, maybe it'll
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be included. We don't really know, and I don't know exactly how it
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did. I think it was not terrible, but just kind of middling.
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But I guess I don't know. So yeah, I would recommend it if
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you're looking for a movie to watch. It's it's definitely fun. It's a
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good time. But it's not like the greatest film ever or anything. But
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I had a great time. I thought, one, Yeah, that's awesome.
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I thought it was really fun. Yeah, yeah, have you been
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streaming anything fun? So I went and binged The Morning Show Season three real
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hard. Oh my, Like the first three or four days of tour it
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was. I locked it down and it's like ten episodes. You were like,
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let's really watch something. Maybe I'm doing it. I love it.
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What do you think? I've really been enjoying The Morning Show? Nice?
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I liked the season a lot. It's filled with big name actors like Jennifer
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and Ason Reese, Witherspoon, Billy Crudeup. We know that from the first
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two seasons, but then they go out and get a bunch of good,
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like really great guest stars. Julianna Margallis has a pretty big role. She
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was in the second season as well, Lovely, But in this season they
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brought in John Hamm and they brought in tig Nataro as well. Hell yeah,
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and it's just been a really fun season. Man. They take a
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bunch of like current events that have happened and put the main characters in them,
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and they focused on a lot of things that happened during the pandemic and
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it was kind of tough to relive. Actually, they really really there was
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one episode in particular where they're like, we're just going to like really just
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dive into like a year and a half of the pandemic and you know,
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so it had like George Floyd, the Capitol Riots, like it just was
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a lot. There was a lot. We're like, wow, a lot
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really did happen in that short period of time. And I could just feel
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that stress on me a little bit. Yeah. So they did a very
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good job. Oh that's cool. Yeah, but another great season, Like
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and it's just crazy they get all these stars in one show. It's pretty
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impressive and it's good. It's really good writing. So wild. Yeah,
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nice, have you been streaming anything? Fun? Is fun the right word
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for this? It was a beautiful story. I watched David Holmes The Boy
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Who Lived, which is a documentary also on HBO Max, and it's about
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David Holmes was a stunt person on the Harry Potter films and he was actually
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Harry Potter Daniel Radcliffe's lead stunt double. Okay, And I can't remember if
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we talked about this because, as previously discussed, the brain she barely works.
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But but they had an accident on Deathly Hallow's Part one and it was
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him that had the accident with a stunt they were doing, and he ends
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up paralyzed from the neck down. And so this is like a story all
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about that, and Daniel Radcliffe is like best friends with this dude. So
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it's got Daniel Radcliffe in it, and then a bunch of other people from
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around the like movie set and stuff. Wow, and it's it's I mean
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it is. It's obviously very sad in points and very emotional in a lot
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of points, but it's a really beautiful story just about how that all happened,
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what their relationship was like and continues to be like to this day.
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And I thought, like, that is all very compelling in and of itself.
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It was also very compelling to learn about how stunt people work and like
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stunt coordination works with these giant movies and stuff, and it was just really
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cool to kind of get that behind the scenes stuff a little bit more.
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But yeah, man, it's it's an hour twenty seven, but it is
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absolutely gorgeous. Wow, Like I said, it's it is It's heavy at
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points, for sure, but overwhelmingly it's a positive story and it's all about
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this David Holmes guy is just like you know, he he's not perfect and
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he doesn't not every day is great, but man, he has a great
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attitude and he's really just trying to live his life out here and talks about
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the movies and you know, relationships and stuff. It was really compelling.
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I liked it a lot. I'd never even heard of it. I just
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saw it when I was just kind of like scrolling through, and I was
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like, oh, well, yeah, Daniel Radcliffe, I'm in on that.
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But I can't remember. Did we talk about an accident that came up?
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It certainly didn't, and I don't remember. It's been a minute,
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but it has. Yeah, but yeah, I'm sure it will come up
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now. I'm sure because they made a whole thing about it, but that
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was part of it. They wanted to tell, like his story and all
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that stuff. But man, so wild, so crazy. Definitely worth checking
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out if you're into you know, Harry Potter or just movies in general,
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or just a beautiful story of like sometimes life, you know what I mean,
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and like you have to persevere through that. I really liked it.
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I had a great time with her, right man, Yeah, it was
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super cool, super cool. Do you think we should do a few plugger
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rounies. I would really like to. Okay, that sounds fun. Let's
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that pertains to the movie we're talking about, and for this one it seemed
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very appropriate. We're doing our top five biggest oscar snub performances draft Man fun.
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I was worried about this one. I was like, are these going
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to be hard to find? Not that hard. I'm sure it will be
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a bunch that I didn't think of too, you know, But and it's
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all up to your interpretation. You could see the fun list any movie,
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really, you know, I believe it. I'm just gonna say all the
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ones, the wory you had actors that you hated. I can't. I
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couldn't think of good ones. There has been a couple over the years.
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I was like, I should just pick all the piece, but they s
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Chris Elliot in Groundhog Day exactly. Chris Elliot should have been nominated this man,
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Well, that sounds very fun. But we will. We will look
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forward to that. We will also look forward to the coming attraction. We're
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gonna have a Christmas film coming up next for y'all, and it is the
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Uh why can't I think of the name of it right now? It's actually
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oh yes, love actually love actually yes, yes, yes, yes,
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yes. The twentieth anniversary I believe crazy maybe twenty. I think it's twenty.
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I'm I'm excited to rewatch that one. It's gonna be fun. It'll
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be very much in season, and I probably would have watched it around this
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time of year anyway, so it'll be great. It'll be fun. Another
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person for our draft, Cameron DS from The Holiday should have got an award.
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But yes, we've got Love Actually coming up next, so that will
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be a delight delight as we sort of man, we're really we're rounding out
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the year here. I know we're only gonna have two more episodes after this
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for this year. Crazy, I know. Crazy. Yeah, don't don't
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get the don't get the Discord channels buzz. And by saying we only have
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two episodes left or something, tens of people would be mildly upset. You
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know me, I'm an optimist, you really are. But today we're here
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to talk about the thirtieth anniversary, around thirty thirty anniversary of a great film
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called Tombstone. Ever heard of it? Yes, I am your Huckleberry.
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You are by Huckleberry. I would say that, actually I feel like I'm
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probably more the Huckleberry. Probably what no, you know you have a family.
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I just kind of am a ruffian about town. You're quite the ruffian
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in all fits. You convinced that guy to paint your fence for you that
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one time, and I would never you know, old ladies like to adopt
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me. This actually checks out, Okay, right on? Yeah, you're
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the Huckleberry for sure. That's all I remember about the Tom Adventures. I
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like it so yeah. Actually, Rob that I think that may have been
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my first legit part in a play. Was was huck Finn? Wow?
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I guess I am a Huckleberry. You really are. I did not know
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that or something or that it was a pretty big deal. I love a
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big deal anyway. I'm so sorry that that happened. Guys, but we're
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here to talk about Tombstone, which is gonna be a crazy blast and Rob,
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this is a duel. It's just you and me today, Baby Shay
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win the dust blowing in the let's get let's get going, Rob, were
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you gonna start it with just a rough SYNOPSI? I would love to.
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Wyatt and his brothers, Morgan and Virgil have left their gunslinger ways behind them
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to settle down and start a business in the town of Tombstone, Arizona while
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they're looking to find trouble. Trouble soon finds them when they become targets of
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the Ruthless Cowboy Gang. Now together with Wyatt's best friend, Doc Holliday,
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the brothers pick up their guns once more to restore order to a lawless land.
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Love it, great read, Thanks great read, Thank you. Let's
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go to Rotten to Battos and hear what they had to say. I was
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surprised by this. Critics have it coming in at seventy two percent. I
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was very surprised by that. I wouldn't have expected. I mean, yeah,
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that's just wild to me. I wasn't expecting that at all. Rob
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anyone that I have talked to that has seen this movie loves this movie,
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and it seems like it Critics would like it. Yeah, it's interesting.
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I guess there's we'll talk about it later. Audience members, though, have
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it coming in at just a rock solid ninety four percent. Pal that is
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that that makes the word was expected? Yes, yeah, that was expected.
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I agree with that. But yeah, let's get into it and say
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what we think. It's time for our hot takes. Hot takes. Oh,
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how spicy? Oh it's like the Dancert right, that's a hot take.
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That's a hot take. I like this movie a lot. I don't
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have a super crazy long history with it. I think I watched this for
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the first time just a couple of years ago. I think I think it's
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been since we started the pod anyway, Okay, but man, what a
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what a wild story. It's full of a huge, crazy cast that I
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know we'll talk about a ton as time goes on. It's you know,
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got that that wild West gunslinger stuff going on. That's really fun. And
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overall it's it's a great movie. It's really well shot. There's some some
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strange I don't love the I bet it looked super cool at the time,
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but the like slow down shots. The slow motion stuff always looks kind of
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cheesy to me. But I think that's because it's been used so much since,
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you know, so Like one example, what what slow motion? I
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can't even picture a slow motion shot. There's one where he like and I
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don't know if they just needed to extend the scene by a little bit or
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something. There's one where he turns back where Wider turns back to the camera
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and it's like it's after a shot. I think it's after his brother gets
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shot or something, and he's like, so that was interesting because they do
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this weird kind of slow down thing. It's not slow motion, but when
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Bill Paxston gets shot and like, is that it is? It is that
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I couldn't tell what that effect was. Yeah, it felt it felt kind
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of weird, but again I don't think I think that's just because of where
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we're at now, not you know, not like a bad choice or anything,
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you know, hmm. Yeah, But anyway, that's more negative than
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I even wanted to be. I thought it. I thought it was super
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fun. There's some great acting performances in it that I know we'll talk about.
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And I also I found myself on this rewatch really getting getting pumped up
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by the story. The Pale Rider story I think is really fun and it
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really is the whole way through, so we get obviously this is from Revelations.
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It's about the four Horsemen of the Apocalypse and riding in on the Pale
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Rider and he brings you know, Hell's coming with him, right, and
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they bring it up, bring it up pretty early in the movie. It's
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like that first scene with the priest. Yeah, but then I came to
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find out. I did some digging. Tuberculosis is the white death is what
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it was called. So maybe he's the pale you know, he's the pale
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rider that widerp is, you know, associating with. There's also Death was
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right behind him, so he could be Death. In this scenario. There's
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a lot of talk about the lightning coming, people hiding in rocks and you
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know, looking out for this man, and this man just basically coming across
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the entire land and purging it of all the evil around. So I just
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thought that was really cool. I thought that was a neat thing, and
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I guess I didn't remember that that was so like prevalent throughout the whole movie.
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I thought that was really fun. And I looked for like an article
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that talked more specifically about that, from like someone smart, smarter than me,
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and I didn't see it. So someone should write that. I would
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be happy to read it some other things. I guess maybe this is my
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hot us take actually, because I really liked it, and I know we'll
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get into a bunch here, but my hottest take cowboy Gang not a great
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name, could have gone back to the drawing board for that one. I
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feel like, yeah, even just the red sashes would have been and that's
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way better. I mean, I love that they've got flair, they have
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some panache, they have an accessory that's fun. But the Cowboy gang,
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I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. It needs work. I
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agree a splash of color makes sense. But other than yeah, I'm with
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you, that's good. No, I don't really have a hot take other
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than this movie is pretty great. It gets me pumped up, and I
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like it a lot. Hot take, brother hot. So I have loved
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Tombstone since it came out. I have seen it countless times. We definitely
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had it on VHS, so many, so many viewings. It's fun.
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A guy named Kevin Jari j A R R E. I don't know how
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you say it, wrote this film. And he's a He's done some bangers
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man. He wrote the screenplay for Glory before Tombstone, and then he also
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did the Brendan Fraser version of the Mummy. So this man is a legend.
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He's done some really cool things. Say less that man is killing it.
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He's done very well for himself. Cool. This movie was not nominated
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for an Academy Award, which seems crazy. To me, that is pretty
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wild. It's pretty nuts. It's shockingly not on the IMDb Top two fifty,
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which made me sad. Wow, it is for sure my favorite Western
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of all time, and it's not even close. I thought that the dialogue
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in this movie was amazing. Everything that comes out of Vlciomer's mouth is iconic
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and amazing. Yeah, he's pretty amazing. He's incredible. The actors I
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thought were perfectly cast, although the role of Maddie Wyatt's wife was a bummer
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of a role. Yeah, we needed to not like her so he wouldn't
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be mad that he falls in love with Dana Delaney's character. Yeah, that
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was weird. Yeah, still my least favorite role in the film. It
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was really fun seeing so many young folks that would end up being pretty big
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names in film and TV later on. Absolutely. Yeah. I thought they
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did some really cool stuff with the cinematography, and that shot of the Ert
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brothers and Doc Holliday walking to the Okay with the burning building behind them is
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Yeah, although why was that building on fire? Was it just for the
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shot, just for the shot, the shot, just for the I was
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like, okay, I mean I don't care, I don't know why that
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the house is on fire, But that looks cool. Also, the silhouette
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shot with the sun behind them is beautiful. There were some really cool shots.
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They left room for the brothers. Did you notice that? Totally cool?
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Yeah, I didn't know that and then I read it and I was
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like, oh cool, Yeah I didn't. I didn't realize that it's so
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neat. But man, I just I adore this film. I have a
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couple of hot takes. The biggest hot take is I cannot believe Val Kilmer
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wasn't nominated for Academy Award. It's the biggest nub of all time in my
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opinion, and that's why we're during our top five draft. Although you wouldn't
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have wanted him to win because do you know what he was up against?
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Was up against the ninety three the Fugitive, the Fugitive Tommily Jones. Now,
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I loved Tommily Jones in that movie. I know, I know.
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That's what Filmer wins this every time. Oh so you would pick him over
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Tommy not even close what Tom Jones. Tommy ly is a different guy.
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Sorry, I love that Tommily Jones character. But Val Kilmer was just insane
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in this, dude. Listen to this. Listen to this lineup, Tommy
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Lee Jones, the Fugitive, Leonardo DiCaprio, what's eating Gilbert Grape? This
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is all supporting rules, Ray Fines, Shintless list. That's such a good
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performance too, John Malkovich in the Line of Fire, and I don't actually
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know this movie, but I have heard of it. Pete postal Weight from
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In the Name of the Father. Yeah, that's the Daniel da Lewis one.
25:15
Yeah, post left Weight. Sorry, yeah, I can't read.
25:21
That's a that's a stacked category. That is stacked. So the Ray Fine
25:26
one. I would have also put above Timeily Jones. I think I would
25:30
have to Rafe was amazing in that movie. But man, yeah, that
25:36
is tough. So we should be clear. We know that Schindler's List is
25:41
having an anniversary this year. We were just like, I don't know,
25:45
what, what do you say about that? And the honestly, we don't
25:48
have the budget for the boohu moments section of no oh my goodness. We
25:52
can't do it. I can't do it, so we'll have to save that
25:53
for a different day. We will. But my other hot take is that
26:00
in a film that I adore more than most movies. Yeah, the now
26:07
scene is very cringey in such a wasn't going to bring it up, but
26:11
yeah it is. Uh, it's something. It's one of the cringes things.
26:15
Yeah, but apparently at least partially corroborated by people that were there that
26:22
it that is actually kind of close to what happened and not not maybe him
26:27
saying no, but apparently the one did I think it's Ike. Ike didn't
26:33
die there, but one of the dudes that was there didn't die there,
26:36
died a few days later and said that he did walk out through a hail
26:41
of gun fire that didn't hit him and then killed the curly Bill or whatever
26:47
his name is. Yeah, curly Bill for like point blank point blank range.
26:52
So apparently that's like kind of true, which is so I was like,
26:56
well, I guess you got to give it to him. Then it's
27:02
just so funny. Yeah, that was a lot. It was really great.
27:04
I liked it a lot. But I love this movie so much.
27:08
Yeah, that's great. Hot Take, hot Take, hot Take loves it
27:14
more than The Fugitive. Wow, Yeah, yeah, I think I do.
27:18
I do love The Fugitive, But now you don't have this is it's
27:22
not an either or you don't have an I love them both, I really
27:25
do well. I love it well. This sounds like it might be a
27:29
slam dunk here, But should we go forward and talk about our favorite acting
27:32
performance the dude. I'm the dude, so that's what you call me,
27:37
you know that? Or his dudeness or duder or you know eldudo reno if
27:44
you're not into the whole brevity thing. Should we name the Huckleberry the Huckleberry?
27:48
Yes, dude, why don't you go first? Buddy? Yes,
27:52
I mean yes, it's Val Kilmer all day, every day, one of
27:57
my favorite roles of all. He's so good, just completely embodied the role.
28:04
Every word of dialogue is perfect. He steals every scene he's in.
28:08
He's glistening in every scene. Very he's the pale rider. He's so much
28:14
paler than everybody else. Absolutely, and he is my Huckleberry one hundred percent.
28:19
There's just no getting around it. Yeah, Yeah, he's fantastic.
28:23
I co signed this one hundred percent. I halfway through the movie I was
28:29
like, or actually, even just going into it, I was like,
28:32
but Kurt's like really good, he is really good. But also it's this
28:37
dude's like this movie. With someone replacing Kurt, it wouldn't be as noticeable
28:42
that it's different as it would be with Val. I feel like one hundred
28:45
percent agree with that. Yeah. So, yeah, he's he's lovely.
28:49
He's totally believable as sort of like the like he's a sophistic hit, but
28:56
also this crazy gunfighter guy. You can tell the part of the reason he
29:00
is a good gunfighter is he's kind of hoping that he's gonna die before this
29:06
disease takes him. I thought it was super cool that last shot, you
29:10
know, after hearing him say I thought I would die with my boots on,
29:14
you know, to see him be like, oh wow, when he's
29:18
just before he passes away and sees his toes he's sticking out of there because
29:22
the disease finally got him. It was a masterful performance. It's so good.
29:26
It was. Yeah, I agree. Let's give Kurt Russell some love
29:30
too, though he was definitely overshadowed by Val Kilmer. Yeah, it was
29:37
really fun watching him switch over to the guy who's going out for revenge.
29:44
Yeah, even if it does lead to the super cringing no scene, it's
29:48
still really really fun because you know, up until that point he has that
29:52
one scene with Billy Bob Thornton that's so wonderful. That's what I was just
29:56
gonna say, is like seeing him be like this, like Meme cur it's
30:00
really fun and you get that, you get that taste. But he's like,
30:03
hey, I want to you know, I just want to be a
30:07
businessman. I want to be not worry about things. They keep dragging him
30:11
back in man for sure. Yeah, man, an agree, he's so
30:17
good. I mean I I like him in pretty much everything. I feel
30:19
like that I've never seen him in but man, yeah, he's he's really
30:23
great. And that mustache it was beautiful. What a gorgeous stash. I
30:30
think you should go to just the stash, buddy, I mean just it
30:33
would have to be like his stash where it is board real you why good
30:40
that man says, I've done the stash. That's just like a normal mustache,
30:45
like your top gun stash. I don't look good in that at that.
30:53
No, you can't do that. You have kids. It raises all
30:56
kinds of alarm bels. No, you can't do that. I absolutely can't.
31:00
I it does not work for me. I'd probably freak out. I
31:03
have thought about just just letting it, just shaving all of it, just
31:10
to mess with them. Is that bad? No? No, because but
31:12
if you do it, please record it. We don't have to release it
31:15
to the public. But I want to see what because I bet they would
31:18
freak out. I think they would. But then I just remember so clearly
31:25
after we did The Man of La Mancho when I was junior in high school,
31:29
I had grown out my beard. It was the first time I'd ever
31:33
grown it out and noticed that I could really grow a beard. We had
31:37
to shave it off after it was all done, like we all did it
31:40
in the all night party at the Total, and I looked so not great,
31:48
a cherubed baby, like it just felt like I had no chin whatsoever
31:53
and was kind of just red under there, and it just I felt,
32:00
I'm with you, Yeah, I'm with you, so uncomfortable for the rest
32:05
of the night. They're just like, people don't look at me deep regrets,
32:08
I'm so anyway facial hair and I've I've had a beard ever since.
32:15
My thing is just like I know that, you know, I know that,
32:17
I know there's more than one chin, but you can only see the
32:20
one. If I heard that, that's really what I'm going. Yeah,
32:24
I understand that this we all know this is fake, but please give me
32:30
the illusion of hope. You know, but the facial hair in this movie
32:36
is so great, and all the other characters have great on pards and mustaches
32:39
as well. I think we should go to the supporting cast. Let's talk
32:43
about that too. G A Lord, tell GI, why do you start
32:46
off with this one? Buddy? Man? This is uh, it's stacked
32:51
and packed up in here. So if I have to pick my absolute,
32:57
fing absolute favorite, that's harder than usually. I go late. So then
33:02
I can just be like, here's this random person that was fun. I
33:09
mean, I love Sam Elliott. I think he's just that's a fantastic He's
33:16
kind of the only one that really challenges Kurt Russell as Wider, like,
33:23
which I was wondering, and maybe you know this is he the older brother
33:29
or is whyat the older brother? I would think he would have to be.
33:31
I'm with you. I mean, I don't. I have not studied
33:36
Wider, but I don't know the story that I just didn't know if in
33:38
the movie they made a reference that I had looked so much older that I
33:42
would think that that's what they're great for you, Okay, agreed. I
33:45
just think he's he's so good and like we said, he he's the only
33:49
one that can kind of challenge him a little bit. And his scene where
33:53
he you know, tells him to get out of there and all that,
33:55
like, I just think it's great. I think he's wonderful. And he
34:01
also is the one that stands up even when you know, Kurt Russell's trying
34:07
not to do it, like to stand up against the cowboys. You're saying
34:10
exactly, yeah for right, you know, in this case or whatever.
34:15
But yeah, I just thought he was fantastic. I mean, he's kind
34:19
of always fantastic, but this is a part he was made to play,
34:22
right, the cowboy. He looks like a cowboy. It's great. And
34:25
I take back the Kurt Russell mustache because Sam Elliot's mustache is maybe the best
34:31
in the business. That's almost like an unfair fight, Like, you know,
34:36
it's almost like he's in a class of his own. Let's talk about
34:38
this next level of stuff. Yeah, totally, totally. That's a great
34:43
pick. I am going to pick a guy that I don't think many people
34:46
even know his name, but Michael Bean as Johnny Ringo, He's so good.
34:53
It is such a great actor that is in some bangers and I don't
35:00
I think a lot of people don't know who he is. But he's solid
35:05
in every single thing that he does. The Kid's Dad right and Terminator Kyle
35:12
Reese right, isn't that Yeah? The first one? No terminator two or
35:17
terminator the first one. It's the first. Yeah. I think he is
35:21
in that. I was a terminator to guy. I saw a terminator one
35:24
like one time. But I think Kyle, I think I think that is,
35:29
yes, And it makes sense because he was. He's done other Cameron
35:34
stuff like he did the Abyss and he's Yeah, Michael Bean's great and he's
35:42
solid and everything he's in. Uh, he is not a daisy, not
35:45
a daisy at all, not even a little. He's in the rock.
35:50
Yeah, dude, he's Uh. When they come up through the grates like
35:55
that, that's him. Yeah, you know the cowboy garb really threw me.
36:01
That's crazy. He's so great. Yeah, he's really good. Yeah,
36:06
he was awesome in this. He's the perfect foil. Yeah, that
36:10
was really fun. In the cup scene. I'm sure that'll come up,
36:14
but oh, yes, he's at That's a great pick. Another one of
36:19
my runner ups is it was so much fun to see a normal size to
36:23
Billy Bob Thornton. Yeah, yeah, for sure, you know what I
36:29
mean. Then he obviously lost a bunch of weight after this movie and has
36:34
kept it off for thirty years. But dude, such a fun, unlikable
36:38
character that gets put in his place and it's really fun to watch it right
36:44
away and hard. Oh just like whoa. That scene is one of my
36:49
favorites in the movies. But he yeah, he just he's such a fun
36:53
character and you could really see like, oh, this guy's got something.
36:59
He was apparently all so improving all the like uh put downs that he was
37:04
saying to the people, like you get the hell out of here, I'm
37:07
gonna kick your butter, you know, like all that stuff. Yes,
37:12
exactly exactly like that cat's ass or whatever it is. Yeah, I guess
37:16
that was all improv. That's cool. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah,
37:20
he's a great that's a great pick too. Nice Powers Booth was really good
37:27
as he's really compelling. I liked him a lot in this. He was
37:31
fun. Yeah, they just made him such an evil character with that one
37:37
scene where he is it's where he takes out the old sheriff. Yeah,
37:40
that's such a bummer because you like kind of like him. Uh huh.
37:45
I was kind of hoping he would be like a likable guy. That ended
37:49
up you know, he met he met his match. But it was like,
37:52
a, well, I can see his point, you know, than
37:55
what we saw. But but then that scene really just feel like, oh,
38:00
this guy's the worst. Bill Paxton always a delight, he's paston.
38:05
Dude. I loved him in this like kind of a bright eyed dreamer.
38:09
Uh, super loyal to his bros. Yes, dude, in him his
38:15
death scene, he did that so well, his eyes having to be open
38:21
while Kurt Russell is like like squeezing his face like not believing that he's dead.
38:27
I could not believe it. I was like, yeah, he's got
38:29
a blank look, watch blink. He's gonna great. Guys' point, that's
38:35
really great. I love that. Uh, Terry O'Quinn, isn't it for
38:38
a second the mayor was Yeah, No, I guess the mayor is not
38:44
the mayor whatever. Is he just like a townsperson or something. Yeah,
38:49
he does seem to have some weight in the community or was he like original
38:52
Sheriff. I don't know, here's something, yeah, yeah something indeed,
38:59
dude. Many people though Thomas Hayden Church Stephen Lang plays Ike Clinton, who
39:07
was the worst. I thought he was really fun in this movie. Oh
39:12
yeah, yeah, that character is I mean, just the worst. And
39:15
you never get to see him get his there like it's that's one. He's
39:20
the one that just he gets to just go and do his thing. He's
39:22
just a coward the whole time. Absolutely. Did you recognize John Corbett as
39:29
part of the gang John Corbett like from uh Sex and the City and My
39:35
big fact Greek Wedding. Yes, I did, which I was like,
39:37
whoa, yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. Is he also in that Northern
39:42
Exposure show. I don't know why that popped in my brain, but yeah,
39:45
okay, nice, Yes I did. Yes, that was fun.
39:47
I always remember seeing Jason Priestley in it because even at the time I was
39:52
watching him in Beverly Hills Nino two and oh it's like he's making the switch
39:57
to the little glasses right who gets all bent out of shape, you know,
40:02
and the play is going on and all that speaking of beards. I
40:07
think like they sort of illusioned or alluded to allusioned Jesus alluded to him being
40:14
in love with the actor guy that got shot yep, when he like gently
40:17
held his hand, And that was Billy Zaye of course, yes, who
40:22
was great and he looks so young and vere. I I know it was
40:25
great. Charlton Heston has the the cameo that's wild. I didn't know that
40:32
for the I mean, the only reason I knew that was because of my
40:36
dad at the time, Like I never Yeah, I recognized him because I
40:40
hadn't really seen Charlton Heston movies. Same. Yeah, the ape, damn
40:45
dirty ape. That was probably it for me. Michael Rooker we haven't said
40:50
yet. He's amazing McMasters. He gets that horrible death. Yeah, that
40:54
death was yuckie. I didn't remember that from my first watch, was First
40:59
Couple or whatever it was. They didn't write great female parts, that's for
41:06
sure. Yeah, kind of to be expected, but Dana Delaney was pretty
41:12
good. Yeah. The what's the anti christ lady's name? Kate Joanna Pecula
41:21
no cry or Pacola mm hmm with val right, Yeah, he says she's
41:28
the anti Christ. I wasn't putting in anybody's mouth. I feel you.
41:32
And then Robert Mitcham was the narrator. Oh yeah, I didn't know the
41:39
old Western. You know, it's fun. Yeah, it was really cool.
41:44
Also, I think it's in trivia lator, which I'm saying a lot
41:45
of them. But that's fine. Uh Wyatt's like fifth Descendant is in it
41:52
or something. Yeah, because the point you just see Wider and I was
41:54
like, wait, that guy isn't Wider but that's his real name. What.
41:59
Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, that's gonna eat, I thought.
42:02
But yeah, Stack and pack Buddy, stacked and so much fun. Well
42:07
cool, let's uh, let's go to the Dingus the Dangers. So Dingas
42:13
is quite simple, really, Dingus Dingus. I can talk about my Dingus
42:16
all night long. This is way hard for me because I love so many
42:22
of these scenes. But you just watched it. What do you think is
42:27
your favorite scene? Hmmm? I mean, I don't really see how it
42:37
can be anything other than the scene. I guess it's kind of a quote
42:40
too. But the you called down the thunder, well, now you got
42:45
it. You know he does all that Hell's coming with me, and so
42:49
when he goes and switches when he gets ike at the train station, the
42:52
like the heel turn. Yeah yeah, And then I guess are we including
42:57
the montage after that, because that's such a great and wild that one guy
43:05
in the opium den who thinks he's getting a pipe, but it's really the
43:08
tense Yeah, that intense. Yeah, that is a great montage that.
43:15
I mean, that is a runner up for me for sure. I love
43:17
his speech so much. Is probably what's doing it? Oh dude, that
43:22
speech is killer. Actually what am I saying? It's it's probably got to
43:29
be that last duel between Doc and Johnny Ringo? Yeah, that is that
43:35
what you had reveal. It's the revealed they did it so well. Yeah,
43:39
you know, Doc says goodbye to Wyatt, gives him the badge.
43:44
He's just like, I've always wanted to wear one of those, gives him
43:46
the badge. Yeah yeah. So then when we even see Whyatt get to
43:52
the place and they're like, oh, he's up there over that ridge.
43:55
So then when it's revealed that it's Doc, you just it's like, oh
44:00
yeah, yes, yeah, it's so fun. You're totally right. It's
44:06
such a great reveal, dude, It's one of my favorites. Ever,
44:10
So there's a moment in that where apparently again in trivia, but it's fine.
44:15
Uh, he doesn't blink, Ringo doesn't blink the entire time that he's
44:21
on screen until that last little bit, and it's it's apparently supposed to show
44:25
they think that like he has that just little kernel of doubt yep, just
44:30
at the very end, which I and I thought he played that really well
44:35
because for the first time he was like a little scared. You could tell.
44:37
I loved it. Yeah. The only thing I will take away from
44:42
that scene, and it is my favorite scene in the movie, ye is
44:45
the death scene is way over the top. Yeah, it's a lot.
44:49
It's a lot, and it's a lot like the huge swell in music in
44:52
him just like sure, come come on, come on, you're not a
44:58
daisy. Yeah, no daisy at all. That stuff was all like really
45:05
like cold blooded and kind of crazy. It was. It was more just
45:07
him dying was a little little too much. I get that, But such
45:13
a great scene. That was my number one. Is a great scene I
45:19
would also put in there because it leads to that duel is that cup routine
45:24
is just that's such a good one, dude, it's so good. He's
45:29
all doc so drunk. Has so many lines before that too, like for
45:37
quotes. I mean my quotes are just all doc quotes. Oh yeah,
45:39
totally. That's a great pick. Also the one we said the billy yes,
45:45
so good, Like that was a that was a high runner up for
45:49
sure too, just like I had to put five down usually I only put
45:52
three just smacking the out of him and just like just putting basically like I
45:59
have nothing to fear from you, and you're gonna shut the hell up,
46:01
you know, like get the hell out of here, okay. And then
46:06
he's just immediately like all right, so what do we think I get how
46:09
much at the door? What's my I got this guy out of here?
46:14
Yeah? So crazy. And then when he's like, wait, you're wider,
46:19
but he just skid at les. Yeah. So good. Actually,
46:22
Val has that super awesome line like you may leave that. Oh I forgot
46:27
you were there? Yeah you may you may go now. The other one
46:32
is obviously the Okay Corral scene, which is oh yeah, that is yeah.
46:37
I mean it's just that's actually something that I've heard of in history,
46:42
and which is crazy. Yeah, they're walking down the street is so cool,
46:49
coolest shot in the movie. Yeah, and all the close ups when
46:54
they're like about to and then you see you see Doc give the wink,
47:00
and then you see Thomas Hayden Church who I had only known from Wings,
47:04
who played the really dumb dude on Wings, and then he goes and plays
47:07
this really dumb cowboy, real type cast but he's just like, yeah,
47:16
I guess to shoot now, what a dummy? Yeah, yeah, that
47:25
is great. I also would give a runner up to the hospital bed scene
47:35
at the end of the movie. So good dude. I know it's not
47:37
as exciting or whatever, but it's wonderful scene though, between those two cats,
47:43
like so good. Well, and they pretty much only have each other
47:45
at that moment too, you know, they're just beautiful. Man. I
47:50
loved that a lot. I thought that was really really great, both of
47:54
their scenes where they're at you think it's his deathbed or great great scenes.
48:00
Oh yes, yeah, that's a good call. Yeah, they're almost like
48:04
together in my brain. But yeah, and he's got a line. Well,
48:07
I'll save it for lines, but there's some line we might just need
48:12
to switch over to show me the money because I have so many quotes but
48:17
we agree, we'll say the duel. The duel is number one. Totally
48:22
down for the duel. Absolutely. Well, then let's talk about some quotes.
48:25
Let's show me the money, show me the money, show me better
48:36
say a bunch, bud oh man. There's just there's just so many.
48:40
A lot of them are really long. So here's uh, here's the duel.
48:45
He comes in, there's the reveal. It says, I'm your Huckleberry,
48:50
which is going to be the name of the episode. Love that.
48:52
I mean, that's if we're looking for one line, that's probably the line
48:55
for the movie. There's so many, though, I send that gift,
49:00
you know, three four times a week or so. And he says,
49:05
why, Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave.
49:09
I said, fight saw with you holiday. I'll beg to differencer. We
49:13
started a game we never got to finish. Play for Blood. Remember,
49:16
it's like I was just fooling about. I wasn't and this time and he
49:20
takes out the badge. It's legal and how John how Michael Bean says,
49:27
all right, longer, let's do it. It's so good, dude,
49:30
so great, and yeah, so then he shoots him said, poor soul,
49:38
you were just too high strung, which is so good. And then
49:45
then uh, Wyatt gets up there, and Doc's like, I'm afraid the
49:50
strain was more than he could bear. So I wasn't as quite as I
49:53
sick. I wasn't quite as sick as I made. I always said,
49:55
good, God said my hypocrisy goes only so far his every line. Dude,
50:01
yeah, it's so great. And then later he's like, well,
50:06
I guess it goes a little farther than I thought, or something, right,
50:07
I can't remember what it was a reference to, exactly so good,
50:12
so good doing, indeed, sir, the last charge of Wyatt up and
50:15
his immortals. And then they run off and they do the the montage.
50:20
So that's a long one. There's the why. It's the drunk piano player.
50:25
You're so drunk you can't hit nothing. In fact, you're probably seeing
50:29
double. He takes out two guns, because I have two guns, one
50:34
for each of you, one for I always loved that. Yeah, that's
50:38
a great one. Nonsense, I have not yet begun to defile myself.
50:45
Yes, so great, so good. Why don't you take somebody? Oh
50:52
man, I mean the big one is the you tell them I'm coming out
50:57
of hells coming with me. I'm not whole speech up to that is so
51:00
great too, the whole speech. I won't do the whole thing for you,
51:05
but it's so so good. Michael Rooker says, if there were my
51:09
brothers, I'd want revenge too, and then Valcimer's like, oh, make
51:14
no mistake, it's not revenge, He's after. It's a reckonon so right.
51:21
I love that so much. Forgive me if I don't shake hands.
51:24
I love how he says that hands. Oh, Johnny, I'm sorry,
51:30
I forgot you were there. You may go now, Yes, in the
51:34
street. That's so funny. I love well so wyat talking to Johnny Tyler.
51:42
Go ahead, skid it, skin that smoke wagon and see what happens.
51:46
He said, Listen, mister, I'm getting awful tired of her smack.
51:51
I'm getting tired of your gas. Now jerk that pistol and go to
51:53
work. And he slaps him again. He bleeds this time. I said,
51:58
throw down, boy. Oh, I love that. Then he says,
52:01
you're gonna do something or just stand there and bleed bleed? Oh?
52:07
I love that so bad, so bad. I also love indeed, sir,
52:13
the last charge of wide Earp and his immortals. That was the end
52:15
of the duel. That yeah, so so good. Oh just when he's
52:23
like, just the same though, you better swear me in to his brother,
52:27
says that. I just love that line and done. I also love
52:32
I think this is before they go to the Okay Corral. I'm pretty sure
52:36
anyway, Uh, it's not your problem, Doc, you don't have to
52:40
get mixed or yeah, you don't have to mix up in this. And
52:45
then the way that Valcimer looks at him and he's just like that is a
52:49
hell of a thing for you to say to me, you know, just
52:52
like, oh damn, okay, so offended, so offended. Yeah,
52:55
like wow, okay. Uh. I also loved maybe poker isn't your game,
53:01
Mike, I know, let's have a spelling contest. I love that,
53:05
dude. I love that. I don't have time to be proper.
53:12
I want to leave. Yeah. So that's the one that's Dana Delaney right,
53:16
Yeah, totally, which is really funny. I like that that's a
53:22
love at the beginning when Val is playing poker, I think they're playing poker
53:28
at that point, but he's like you know ed. If I didn't think
53:30
you were my friend, I don't think I could bear it. Yeah.
53:34
Yeah, he's such a smart ass, like immediately, which I love so
53:40
much. When Billy Clinton is like Stephen Foster, Oh, Susannah Camptown races
53:46
Stephen Stinking Foster, He's like, ah, yes, well, this happens
53:50
to be a nocturn. He said a witch, you know, Frederick Chopin.
53:57
Yeah, so so good, you idiot. I love that, man.
54:07
You said a bunch of the ones that I have, for sure,
54:10
there's so many. There's one that I have said quite a few times and
54:14
people don't know what the hell it's from, and it's actually Billy Bob Thornton,
54:19
Ok. And it's early on. It's like Christ Almighty. It's like
54:22
I'm sitting here playing cards with my brother's kids or something. You nerve racking
54:27
sons of bitches, but playing cards with my brother's kids or something. I've
54:30
definitely said that that's really funny something. I also love the uh oh when
54:43
they're after the new scene, they're like where is he? I think it's
54:49
Rooker asking where wide airp is right, and then he's just like down by
54:52
the creek walking on Water. Yeah. Yeah, that was Kim's saying that,
54:57
which I love that so much, Walking on Water. Yeah. I
55:02
think all the other ones are kind of they're a little more serious in tone
55:08
that I have. Yeah, Turkey Creek. Jack Johnson says, Doc,
55:13
you ought to be in bed. What the hell you doing this for anyway?
55:15
And he says, whyder is my friend? He said, Hell,
55:19
I got lots of friends. I don't. I don't. That was really
55:23
good. When Morgan is about to die and he had talked about earlier about
55:30
seeing a light, and he's like, remember what you said about people seeing
55:31
a bright light before they die. It ain't true. I can't see a
55:37
damn thing. And I was sad. Yeah, I really loved that scene
55:45
you were talking about at the end. Yeah. So him talking about going
55:52
and getting with Dana Delaney. So Doc says, what did you ever want
55:58
and why? It says, just to live in normal life. Doc says
56:00
there's no normal life. Why it's just life. Get on with it.
56:04
He says, don't know how. He says, sure you do. Say
56:07
goodbye to me. Go grab that spirited actress and make her your own.
56:10
Take that beauty from it, don't look back, live every second, Live
56:14
right on to the end. Live Wyatt, Live for me? Why it?
56:17
If you were ever my friend, if you ever had even the slightest
56:21
feeling for me, leave now, leave now, please, And then Wyat
56:25
is like kind of crying. It's like, thanks for always being there.
56:29
Doc, so great. That scene was so good. Loved it. Oh
56:39
yeah, And the only other one I put down was why it at the
56:45
end to Josephine, I have nothing left, nothing to give you. I
56:50
have no pride, no dignity, no money. Yeah, I don't even
56:52
know how I'll make a living, but I promise I'll love you for the
56:55
rest of your life. Yeah, that's so roman thick. It's just nice.
57:04
Those are mine, dude. Yeah, I think I think we hit
57:07
most of mine. Yeah, there's a million others too, I'm sure,
57:09
but dude, it's hard to catch them all. And seriously, I mean,
57:14
any single thing that Doc Holliday said, Oh, he's so good in
57:19
it perfect. Yeah. Yeah, he's just this writer though. I got
57:22
to give it up for this writer because the dialogue is just h fire,
57:27
it's really good. Yeah. Well, why don't we move to bukes boogoo
57:30
moments? Oh wow? Strong men also cry strong Man. Also, I
57:40
picked four. I love it. I said, when Morgan dies, yeah,
57:47
obvy OBV. When Wyatt gives Doc his badge when he thinks he's dying.
57:55
Ye. That scene was also great. Yeah, and I'm sure there's
58:00
some crazy good lines on that too. There was for sure. When Wyatt
58:05
leaves Doc and he dies, Yeah, m hm. And then I promise
58:10
you I'll love you for the rest of your life, the rest of my
58:13
life. I think he says her life, because I was like, well,
58:17
are you sure you can promise that? Yeah, sir, I remember
58:22
specifically thinking that and then being like, God, you're a real You're real
58:25
fun to hang out with the Bogler. Well, actually, well, point
58:35
of orders, sir. I'm not truly you can guarantee that, but yes,
58:42
it did. Those are the four I had. I don't know if
58:45
there were more there are. So the one line that I said really got
58:52
me, the it's not your problem, Doc, you don't have to mix
58:54
up in this, and then he's like, that is a hell of a
58:57
thing for you to say to me. I'm on this watch like Doc is
59:01
really reaching out for companionship and love, right he Oh, and there's that
59:07
other super great line that I didn't say, but it was when he's talking
59:10
about Ringo and he's like a man like that, he's got a hole in
59:15
him and nothing can ever ever fill it and what does he need? And
59:20
he's like revenge for what being born and just like he equates himself to him,
59:25
and you know, it's like, that's a great scene. And I
59:30
guess that's the first time, right when he leaves and puts the badge on
59:32
him and stuff. But yeah, so the that line for sure, Uh,
59:43
that I got a lot of friends. I don't line got me again?
59:50
I think that was it though, those were the only two that you
59:52
didn't say. Okay, well that was that was close. So what was
59:55
that six? Then? Yeah, that's pretty close. I mean it's also
1:00:01
tough because a lot of those are close ish to each other and stuff.
1:00:05
But man, what a movie. What a movie. I love it.
1:00:09
Let's see movie trivia. Shall we we shall? Okay? Great. The
1:00:16
line quoted by Doc at the end of the fight at the OK Corral is
1:00:20
apparently historically true, and was reported in the Tombstone Papers reporting about the fight.
1:00:25
When confronted by one of the cowboys at point blank range, the cowboy
1:00:29
reportedly said I got you now, Doc, you son of a bitch,
1:00:32
to which Doc gleefully retorted, You're a daisy. If you do, You're
1:00:37
a daisy if you do. Yeah. Interesting love Say win, Say win.
1:00:46
Let's see. Some years after the death of Doc Holliday, Wyatt was
1:00:50
quoted in an interview as saying Doc was a dentist, not a law man
1:00:53
or an assassin whom necessity had made a gambler, a gentleman whose disease had
1:00:59
made a front here vagabond, a philosopher whom life had made a caustic wit,
1:01:05
a long, lean, ash blonde fellow nearly dead with consumption, and
1:01:09
at the same time the most skillful gambler in the nervous, speediest, deadliest
1:01:15
man with a six gun that I ever knew. What a line. Huh,
1:01:19
that's a great nice well love that. Oh there's that grave marker and
1:01:27
I noticed it, but I didn't obviously know what it meant at the very
1:01:29
beginning in the cemetery that says here lies Lester Moore. Four slugs from a
1:01:34
forty four no less, no more. This is a real life tombstone in
1:01:38
Tombstone, Arizona. With that epitaph and it's been on display for at least
1:01:43
sixty years. Lester Moore was a Wells Fargo agent murdered in Naco, Arizona
1:01:50
in eighteen eighty by Hank Dunstan, and Dunstan also died in the fight,
1:01:54
and it was buried in Naco. So that's just kind of crazy. That
1:01:59
is crazy. It's a real thing crazy. Let's see, the wink was
1:02:06
improvised, which is fun saw that. I can't remember if we said that
1:02:09
earlier or not, as I said already, so I get confused. According
1:02:15
to the actors, the screenwriter insisted that the actors wear real wool costumes and
1:02:22
to fit in with the time period, and in that bird Bird Cage theater
1:02:28
scene, Kilmer says a thermometer on set read one hundred and thirty four degrees
1:02:31
fahrenheit, and Kilmer suggested jokingly that the reason Doc Holiday killed so many people
1:02:38
was it's just like he wore wool in the summer in the Arizona territory and
1:02:44
that made him mad. That would make a lot of sense. Yeah,
1:02:47
I was like, that's a really that's funny. I like that a lot
1:02:50
too hot. Oh, widerp was his was Widerup's fifth cousin, and he
1:02:57
plays Billy Clayborn apparently, so that's fun. Um Wider died. The real
1:03:04
wider died in nineteen twenty nine, having never been so much as scratched by
1:03:07
a single bullet. The fact that his name is known above, for instance,
1:03:14
the fact that I don't know what that is. Oh. The fact
1:03:17
that his name is known above for instance, Virgils, the Marshal of Tombstone
1:03:22
at the time of the famous gunfight, is largely due to Wyat's self promotion
1:03:29
before his death. He walked in Hollywood circles and helped to make a bunch
1:03:34
of Western movies. And apparently John Wayne's walk was famously modeled after wider So
1:03:42
that's pretty crazy. Eight there. Grim al al belgrim Let's Go Ride a
1:03:47
Pony? Uh. The cowboy firing the pistol at the camera in the beginning
1:03:54
credits of the film is actually a final scene from a nineteen oh three short,
1:03:59
The Great Train Robbery, a film by the Edison Company. The scene
1:04:03
apparently frightened audience members so much because they believe they were about to be shot,
1:04:09
and the actor is unknown, so silly. It's crazy, crazy it's
1:04:14
black and white. Yeah, what are you thinking? Do you see color?
1:04:18
Hell? Here we are let's see. Oh. Oh, we said
1:04:25
that about that? We did? We said that. Yep, definitely said
1:04:30
that. Oh. Valkimer states that during his death scene he was laying on
1:04:33
a bed of ice so that he would shake and feel weird, and that
1:04:38
it worked and he was so pale. He was so so pale. Yeah,
1:04:45
I said the thing about mister Bean not blinking, So that was all
1:04:49
I had. Did you have any traps? I saw that Robert Mitcham was
1:04:54
signed on to stars old Man Clanton. Prior to principal photography, he fell
1:04:59
from his hor and injured his back, forcing him to quit the part,
1:05:02
and instead he provides the narration the beginning and end of the film. At
1:05:08
least he got to do something. I guess you sure did. And for
1:05:12
people up for roles, I'm seeing that Willem Dafoe was the original choice to
1:05:16
play Doc Holliday, but Darya Vista refused to distribute the film if he was
1:05:23
cast due to Defoe's role in the controversial The Last Temptation of Christ. Huh,
1:05:30
which that is dumb. But I think he would have been good.
1:05:35
I don't know that he would have been this good obviously, No, although
1:05:39
who knows, I mean, who knows. That's crazy, huh. Mickey
1:05:44
Rourke turned down the role of Johnny Ringo. Wow, No crazy, Okay.
1:05:51
The writer wanted Liam Neeson for Wyatt Earp, and he wanted David Bowie
1:05:58
for the role of Doc Holliday. That's a whole different film, that's very
1:06:01
different. He also considered Timothy Hutton for the role of Sheriff John Bhan,
1:06:09
which I don't even know what that actor's name was that played that. But
1:06:14
he wanted Tommy Lee Jones for the role of Curly Bill, which he would
1:06:17
have been great. That probably would have worked real great. Yeah, I've
1:06:21
been actually pretty fun. Have we seen Tommy Lee be a bad guy?
1:06:26
Tommy Lee Jones? We had too, must have, right, I can't
1:06:30
think of top my hand. Yeah, it's fine. Jennifer Connelly auditioned for
1:06:35
Josephine that went to David Delaney. Nice, And it looks like actors such
1:06:42
as Michael Madsen, Dennis Leary, Johnny Depp, Brendan Fraser, gabrielle anwar,
1:06:47
Brad Pitt, and Timothy Hutton were all interested in starring in the field.
1:06:51
They didn't say which parts for them, but they all wanted to be
1:06:56
in it. I don't blame him. And that's that's all I have for
1:07:00
you today, sir. That makes sense. It's a big ensemble. A
1:07:02
lot of actors probably thought about it or trying. That's cool. Nice.
1:07:08
Well, what do you think Judgment Day? Will there be a sequel?
1:07:13
No, but they definitely made another movie called Wider right after this came out.
1:07:17
Yeah. That was one of those kind of yeah cellar thing, right,
1:07:23
doppel ganger movie, twins ganger movies, right, and that one had
1:07:28
Kevin Costner as Wider and Dennis Quaid as Doc Holliday. Okay, which it's
1:07:33
not as good. Yeah, yeah, that wouldn't work for me. No,
1:07:40
so I wouldn't be surprised to keep doing more like this, and maybe
1:07:44
they'll still keep Yeah, they could do another one, I suppose, right,
1:07:46
Yeah, but it should be cool. Yeah, I think this is
1:07:50
it interesting. I agree? Well, Biggs, would you like to play
1:07:56
game with me? I would love to, buddy. What are we gonna
1:07:59
do? Well? I went to the Twitter machine and I said, hey,
1:08:03
Twitter, tell me an actor that you love. Oh yeah, yeah,
1:08:10
yeah, and we can do last Man Stanton, I love it.
1:08:14
Okay. The first name I have is Ryan Reynolds, which I feel like
1:08:20
we've done before, but I think it hasn't been for a long time.
1:08:25
If we have, Yeah, I have Gerard Butler, which would be much
1:08:29
tougher, Eric stone Street, which would be a very quick game impossible,
1:08:35
a scene Bean which could give us a few William Forsyth that would be tough,
1:08:48
Tim Curry, Neil McDonough, Chuck Norris, Chris Evans, which we
1:08:59
could do a lot of Marvel movies. I'm seeing Kevin Costner, that's not
1:09:04
bad. Actually, Tom Holland, Mark Hamill, Colin Firth, not Colin
1:09:15
Second, but Colin Firth, John Wayne, Gene Hackman. I got Tom
1:09:23
Cruise on here. Have we ever done Tom Cruise? I don't know if
1:09:29
we have done Tom Cruise. That seems weird that we haven't. It weird
1:09:33
necessarily saying we should, but that just seems wild. Yeah, I think
1:09:38
out of those, i'd say, I think we'd be able to do the
1:09:40
most for Tom Cruise, Kevin Costner, Chris Evans. Yeah, and I'm
1:09:46
pretty sure we've done Ryan Reynolds. I think we have too, So you
1:09:53
pick out of those. Oh or did I say Hackman Hackman too? Oh?
1:09:57
Yeah, you did say Hackman. I say either Tom Cruise or Chris
1:10:08
Evans. Tom Cruise, it is. We're going for it. We're going
1:10:14
for it, Tommy c All right, where are my notes? Oh god,
1:10:21
there's a lot. There's so many Tom Cruise movies, dude, So
1:10:27
you just you just started up whenever you want, buddy, an interview with
1:10:33
a vampire. Oh nice, I will say days of Thunder nice, tropic
1:10:44
thunder nice. All right, Well, because I just brought that. That's
1:10:50
fine. I gotta save some of these. I will say the first mission
1:10:56
impossible, Mission impossible to mission impossible, three for sure, Mission impossible ghost
1:11:10
protocol. Yep, that's for sure. One. Don't think I had a
1:11:13
number in it? Miss Mission Impossible, Dead Reckoning Part one, damn was
1:11:20
the most recent one Mission Impossible, fall Out Fallout Fallout ghost Protocol. There's
1:11:29
still another one, Yeah, there is, but I don't know. Well
1:11:32
did we all wait? Yeah, let's uh would you say all the number
1:11:40
ones? Yeah? We said one, two, three? Oh? Okay,
1:11:43
we did? Okay, Yeah, I think there's one more that we're
1:11:46
missing. I can't remember what it's called Yeah. I don't know what it
1:11:49
would be though either. I think it was the one with Paula Patten.
1:11:53
I can't think of what the name is. Anyway, let's uh, let's
1:11:58
do that again, and I will say a top gun, top gun,
1:12:03
Meaverick, there you go. I will say the Edge of Tomorrow or lived.
1:12:14
I repeat, Oh, that's a good one, good one, good
1:12:17
work, show me the money, Jerry maguire. Of course, I didn't
1:12:26
think of that till just the second. I feel like I'm coming up with
1:12:31
more obscure ones than big banners. Oh great, say Magnolia, which I've
1:12:42
never seen. Actually, Oh nice, nice, Vanilla Sky, Vanilla Sky,
1:12:47
good one. This guy has done so many movies. Let's say The
1:12:53
Firm. Oh yeah, the movie about his rear Jack reach. Nice.
1:13:01
I did think of that one. I'm gonna delete that where some of his
1:13:09
bit it's like all I got is deep cuts, baby, I really do,
1:13:15
man, I'll go back then, I'll go back in the day.
1:13:19
I'll say cocktail. Oh, that's a good one. Good call. Risky
1:13:27
business. Then a risky business. I will say rain man. Oh that's
1:13:33
a I didn't write that one down yet. That's a good one. I
1:13:36
believe he was in. Well you can tell me if I'm wrong, but
1:13:42
he was in Born on the fourth of July, right, born on the
1:13:45
fourth of July. Yea that I've never seen neither. Actually was that his
1:13:48
first movie or something? Is that why I know it? I think he
1:13:51
was. He was nominated for Academy Award. I think that's one of the
1:13:55
few. That's why it's I think notable. Uh, I will go to
1:14:00
I think maybe his first movie in The Outsiders. Nice. Yeah, I've
1:14:08
never seen that one either. Valkyrie. Oh, right, he was in
1:14:13
that one. I never saw that either. Yep, I forgot about that
1:14:15
one. Future of the Nazis. I believe I will do another. Uh,
1:14:25
I'll say Eyes Wide Shot. Oh now that and Vanilla Sky. I
1:14:30
get mixed up, and I don't know which is which interesting? Which one
1:14:34
do they wear the masks? But there's a lot of masks in Vanilla Sky
1:14:41
too. That's why I get screwed up. Man. But the Eyes White
1:14:44
Hut mask is like because it's like a sex the sex masqarade thing. Yeah.
1:14:49
Yeah, it's hard when two things are against each other. It's like
1:14:54
a war of the World's nice. There you go. There's a big blockbuster.
1:15:00
I was like, why can't I think more of his blockbusters? I
1:15:04
might be out of him now, though, I will say that Oblivion movie.
1:15:11
Damn it. I had just thought of that one too. Chas bought.
1:15:15
Okay, okay, it's done a pretty good job movies where he's running.
1:15:21
Wait, that's not helpful. He can cruise, he can cruise baby.
1:15:30
Oh oh, that's a good one. What an uh night and day,
1:15:36
Night and day and like the last name is night, so it's like
1:15:43
the camera yes and him it is. I think movie actually wasn't bad.
1:15:46
It was kind of fun. Yeah, I liked it. It wasn't it
1:15:49
wasn't good. No, it was fun, like an action romcom. I'm
1:15:55
gonna do Far and Away. I don't even know what that is. That
1:15:59
was im and Nicole Kidman, it was. And it was all about the
1:16:02
he goes from Ireland. Yeah, Oklahoma for the land rush. That's right?
1:16:11
Yeah? Is this bad that I might be out? Dude. We've
1:16:16
said like thirty movies. He's got to have been in like a hundred though,
1:16:21
right, woh, damn it, that might be it, Bud,
1:16:40
I have four more, but I still think there's there's quite a few more
1:16:45
that we're just oh, for sure, Well there's one more mission impossible,
1:16:48
and it's got something to do with with a like a disease or something.
1:16:55
M hmm. Well the one that I thought of just now was Collateral.
1:17:00
He was like, when did he play a villain? Oh? Yeah,
1:17:02
good call. But he was in the musical Rock of Ages, Yeah he
1:17:09
was. He was in the new version of the Mummy. Oh. I
1:17:15
even watched that and sam I was thinking, way back in the day,
1:17:19
he was in that really weird movie called Legend with like Tim Kurr. Oh,
1:17:26
yeah, I have another one. Okay, I mean obviously you still
1:17:29
win said like eight Book the Last Samurai, right, of course we didn't
1:17:33
say, yeah, of course. Yeah. He did a lot of movies.
1:17:41
Damn, so many movies. All right, you're ready for me to
1:17:43
look them up. Let's look them up, Tom Cruise, good job,
1:17:46
buddy, sank you sir, I mean you were listing him off. Quit.
1:17:51
That was more than I usually do. For sure, he's got fifty
1:17:55
one credits. Let's see American missed. Oh yeah, I like watched that
1:18:04
too. Oh we missed the follow up. Never go back, Jack,
1:18:08
Jack Reacher, Never stop reaching Rogue Nation is the Mission Impossible movie we missed,
1:18:15
damn it. Tropic thunder something called Lions for Lambs. I've never even
1:18:20
heard of that. Oh yeah, I get that one. Screwed up at
1:18:24
Valkyrie because it's like it seems similar. Oh damnit. He was a gold
1:18:30
member gold member, dude. Minority Report was huge, and I saw that
1:18:34
movie. Missed that one. I liked that movie too, me too.
1:18:40
A few good men we missed, Oh come on, that's funny. Oh
1:18:46
boy, the Color of Money, which was the sequel to that Paul Newman
1:18:50
movie All the Right Moves, and I forgot about all the right moves,
1:18:57
tap taps and endless. We did pretty good, though, dude, we
1:19:01
didn't really miss all that many. We got like eighty percent of his film.
1:19:04
There was a couple of them we should have got. Yeah, but
1:19:09
pretty good, pretty pretty I'm proud of us. I think we got most
1:19:14
of the obscure ones. Actually, we did well, buddy. You will
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1:19:45
Thanks Kirk, Thank you very much, Kirk. I can't believe we'd
1:19:49
never done Tom Cruise. I don't think we have. I think those first.
1:19:54
I also don't think we have. I mean, you know, I
1:19:57
don't know. It's been five years of this too, so we might an
1:20:00
inkling usually if we have. So yeah, yeah, well stay tuned,
1:20:05
gang, because we have a lovely Christmas film coming up for you. As
1:20:09
we talk about love actually next week that'll be a ton of fun, I
1:20:13
promise, But yeah, I guess that does it today for Tombstone put on,
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