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#118 - Leslie Hocker - Hacking Healthy Longevity · The Chris and Mike Show

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  And we're live. Welcome ladies and gentlemen, on
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  We are, absolutely. So there you go.
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  Welcome, boys and girls, to the Christian.
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  Show we are. Live on YouTube, in which, as
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  Mike just said, that we also have a guest on today, Leslie
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  Hocker. How are you, Leslie?
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  Hey, I'm great. It's great to be here.
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  It's good to be alive. It is.
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  Nice to meet you, Leslie. Thanks for coming on.
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  Absolutely. Above ground, right?
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  Yes, every day above ground is a great day.
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  So we found you on one of the social media platforms, correct?
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  I think so, yes. Yeah.
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  So give us a give us a little, which we do with everybody.
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  Give us a little 32nd elevator rundown of who you are, why
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  you're here, and what we're going to talk about today.
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  I am a business owner, entrepreneur, I love helping
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  people. I'm married, I've got 2 girls, 2
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  grandkids and I am a big into hacking healthy longevity.
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  OK. So expand a little bit on, on
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  your business owner, entrepreneur, what, what's the,
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  what's the primary business you're focused on right now?
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  I am focused on an anti aging a natural alternative topical
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  plant based to Botox and fillers.
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  Oh, OK, so you're. Like I'm a, I'm a No injections,
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  no. OK.
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  I appreciate that. Yeah, 'cause you never know
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  what's getting injected into you, right?
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  Even when. I say it's one thing, yeah, not
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  those. I've had that happen before I
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  was an athlete. But I have been surprised how
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  many men actually are interested in in doing something that's not
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  invasive for their face. Well, I think as, as we've
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  evolved as a society, right, and everything's become so Google
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  friendly, right? The world has shrunk
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  dramatically that like my wife and I, we've had a, we've had a
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  lot of health folks on here, we've had a Wellness coach,
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  we've had a fitness coach, somebody who's huge in the
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  peptides. But having all that, you, you
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  have the ability to research things more than you did in the
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  past. So that only makes sense that
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  those that want to maintain a healthy lifestyle and want to, I
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  don't necessarily want to live till I'm 250.
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  Like some of the stuff that that's been popping up on the
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  Instagram and the Facebooks and stuff.
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  But I definitely want to not feel like a 55 year old, right?
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  At least that's me. Exactly.
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  I just froze. Mike, I think Chris is breaking
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  up a little bit. I'm Yeah.
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  Froze. Up it's there for a second it.
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  Happens with technology, you know.
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  Yeah, yeah. Because when I restarted, I
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  forgot to to put myself on the proper Internet.
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  So I noticed it was lagging from an uploading standpoint.
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  So what is what is the, what is the name of your company?
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  And, and it's all plant based. So give us some more details on
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  that because you're here to share your your product and what
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  we can do to help promote you. Oh, I love that.
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  I, I wasn't sure I, I had a podcast yesterday interview on
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  healthy longevity, but this is a so this is a first ever natural
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  alternative that actually works the same.
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  It's like taking your face to the gym.
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  OK. And I'm like you.
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  I, I want to, I don't want to be my age, act my age.
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  I want to have fun, live a full life.
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  So my mom is 101. Really.
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  Wow, that's amazing. Now is she?
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  Is she using your stuff? Is she using your stuff?
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  She did up until about a year or so ago, yes.
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  OK, well, why'd she stop? Well, her body's starting to
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  fail her a little bit, which sat about a. 101 right?
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  I mean yes, now is now is your family.
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  Everybody lives that old. My father did not.
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  My father did. My father maybe 7076.
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  OK, but when you talk about living to 250, the actual
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  research shows we should be living to about 140.
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  I don't want to live. That's pretty crazy.
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  That's like I said, what if you could?
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  Feel the way you do right now. If I could feel the way I do
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  right now and live to 140, OK. Yeah, yeah.
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  Well at 92 my mother and I went to Prague and she out walked me.
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  We we were walking like 5-6 miles a day because she does
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  move every day so. Right, that's good.
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  But you know what's interesting is when I hit my mid 50s I
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  figured out no amount of good diet, exercise or nutrition
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  prevents gravity on your face. Right.
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  And so I, I love that I found a company to partner with.
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  So I'm an affiliate for the company and it's the future of
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  filler. So this is a topical product,
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  topical elixir that goes under a day or night cream and it takes
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  like 30 seconds to two pumps in the morning, 2 pumps in the
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  evening. But what it's doing is it has
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  plant peptides, plant stem cells.
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  The latest science is so cool and what it's doing.
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  You have like 40 muscles in your face and it's activating the
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  muscles in your face to lift and fill and pump themselves.
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  Really. It is when you the science
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  behind it is wild. I mean it's like 3-4 year, a lot
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  of years of research and then blending.
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  And then it also builds the collagen in your skin by over
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  1200%. With that one right there,
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  explain how you would use that on a daily.
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  How many times a day? Once a day?
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  Morning. Night, morning, wash my face.
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  It twists open and then I just do 2 pumps on my fingers and
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  then I spot do it all the the and I spot up here, you know,
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  the forehead lines and under the eyes and and then I put on a day
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  cream and then at night I wash my face, put it on and then put
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  on a it's very thin. It's really crazy.
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  OK. And have you seen a significant
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  difference since using it? Oh my goodness.
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  Where's my cell phone? Yes, here's I'll actually I
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  don't know how how well this will.
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  Come the cool thing, the cool, the cool thing is you can send
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  it to me. We, because we were talking via
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  e-mail, you can send it to the e-mail and then we'll put you up
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  on our Facebook page so people can see that.
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  OK, that would be fun. I will share with you that I got
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  very excited because. Oh wow.
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  Oh. Yeah.
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  Wow. Yeah.
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  And then this is the eye area that you can't do anything
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  really with Botox, right? And so this is from the filler.
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  Wow. So that's the before.
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  OK. And so that no matter what
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  you're doing, I do believe what you do on the inside does affect
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  the outside, right? And I'm very familiar with
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  peptides and Jay Campbell, and my husband's a doctor of
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  pharmacology, so he's been studying that for several years.
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  But to have an elixir that can topically activate the muscles
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  in your face, it's like taking your face to the gym.
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  Yeah. And how long?
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  How long? How long have you been using it?
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  That was six weeks. We just launched it May 1st.
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  That's. Impressive.
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  Yeah, we sold five months worth of inventory in five days
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  because the clinical trial photos came out the the 90 day
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  clinical trial photos out and the results were so amazing,
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  like just that whole tightening, lifting, looking, you know,
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  we're going to live to we'll say 120 Chris, you know.
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  And you're, how old are you right now?
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  Can we ask that? Yeah, you can ask that.
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  I'll tell you this. When I renewed my passport a
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  couple of years ago, they made me come downtown Houston to
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  prove I'd send in a current photo because of using our day
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  and night cream, which work well over long term.
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  I looked the same. I actually looked a little bit
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  younger and they didn't believe I'd sent in a current photo.
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  Now that's awesome. So I'll be 70 in a couple of
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  months. I wouldn't have.
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  Guessed that no. Yeah, no, nobody really, really
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  does. And that's what I'm really
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  hoping people understand is that people say to me in their 60s
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  like, I'm old or it's too late to start doing stuff.
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  I'm like, Oh my God, you don't get to say you're old until
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  you're 100. My mom is old.
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  You are not old. Now, did your mom use this
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  topical cream? She has not used this one, but
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  she used our day and night cream.
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  So they go together as a set. OK.
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  And. So so was there.
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  And then oily skin, dry skin, doesn't matter your ethnicity
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  skin, OK. So.
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  And it did it. Did it make a dramatic?
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  Yes, all. Everybody was like, So I also
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  use the night cream on the back of my hands so my hands don't
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  get my age away. Sure.
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  And of course, the neck. The neck.
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  Yeah, yeah. She looked a lot younger than
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  all her friends. That's cool, That's cool.
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  Now where do people, where do people find your?
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  What's the product called? Let's go there.
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  It's called Hi Q Intelligent Skin Care and it's this is Neo
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  filler, which is new filler. It's the future of filler.
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  And if if you go to my web, if you go to lesliehawker.com, then
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  there's a form to fill out and I'll, I'll work with people to
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  help them get the best value. OK, so so I'm going to
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  lesliehawker.com right now. No needles, no pain, no tox,
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  just real results. Right up my alley, I don't.
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  Yeah, the note, you know guys, I had never obviously I've heard
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  of a Botox and fillers, but I had no idea how expensive
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  fillers are. That's where they do the
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  injections through here. It's like 7 to $900 this
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  session. And then the Botox on average is
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  like three 5400 to 1000 bucks. I mean, it's like, so you're
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  you're talking, you know, with shipping 140 bucks or something
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  like that. I mean, it's so and people are
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  funny. They'll ask me, well, do you
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  have to keep using it? I'm like, well, are you getting
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  older every day? Yeah.
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  Like have you ever gone to the gym and then stopped going?
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  It didn't you didn't lose your muscle mass right away, but you
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  did, you know, progressively start going backwards.
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  So correct. But I I like that it's healthy
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  for your skin. Yeah.
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  Now, so you referenced, you referenced, it's a, it's a
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  filler. What's a filler?
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  Well, if women know what a filler is.
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  Right. But not everybody, not everybody
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  on here is going to understand what you're saying.
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  So I want you to be more elaborate about that stuff so
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  people understand. I I.
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  I'm going to since I've never done it and I'm not an injector,
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  but it is some type of substance that is injected here to reduce
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  the lines here. It they can't do it here and
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  they can't do it on your jaw line.
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  Which is what? This always.
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  Looks old, right? Right, yes, you can't inject on
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  your neck either. So this, you know, you, you, you
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  can use on your whole face is a thin layer under whatever you're
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  currently using or use it with. You know what I've been using.
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  So here's the challenge. What they've discovered is that
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  these injections move. So we've all seen celebrities
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  that look odd. Is that a?
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  Yeah, yeah. Odd is a good word.
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  Like, like Ozzy Osbourne just had his last concert.
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  I'm assuming you know who Ozzy Osbourne is because who doesn't?
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  Yes, but but Sharon, they were, there were some stuff behind the
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  scenes with Sharon and I just looked at Sharon.
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  I'm like how, how, how can you look in the mirror and be happy
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  with what you look like? She she's not.
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  She's I mean she's her whole face is plastic looking and it's
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  all I. Don't you know that whole story,
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  right? I don't, I just.
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  Figured so whatever she was taking, it just went S on her
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  and it wasn't anything that she wanted to do it just like you
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  have to do the a little bit of research on that because I don't
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  remember the whole story, but I do remember catching a news
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  article where they were saying whatever she was taking just
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  kept going past what she wanted to achieve as far as a look
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  right. Oh, gotcha.
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  Yeah. Oh.
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  Wow, that's. What you would call what she was
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  considering preventative maintenance going.
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  Around, OK, yeah. It's pretty crazy, I agree.
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  With you, she looks terrible. Weapons.
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  Freaky looking. So women will get fillers
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  thinking that it's going or the lips.
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  So you can use this on your lips as well.
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  It's for the lines and the lines, you know, around here,
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  and this is an, I guess, an ultraviolet of someone who'd had
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  fillers around their lips and it just moves around your whole
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  face, which is why some of these celebrities look odd.
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  And it's dangerous, from what I understand, to get so Botox.
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  They do up here. That's why like I still have
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  lines in my forehead, those very smooth foreheads you're seeing.
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  That's because they've injected Botox.
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  And I asked my husband. So I asked my husband when Botox
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  came on the scene, what, 10-15 years ago?
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  I asked him. I said, well, what's a long term
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  effect because it is toxins. And he looked at me and he said
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  now he's a doctor of pharmacology.
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  He said nerve damage. I went really.
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  Yeah, because, well, because it's deadening the nerves.
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  It's. Deadening.
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  It's so you don't. So it's like, so for me, that's
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  not an option. I've been in.
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  I was an athlete, I was a swimmer.
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  Also for the people that are seeing me, I'm not wearing
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  foundation or makeup. That's that's just your probably
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  should have put I'm so pale, but the discoloration I had from
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  being a lifeguard and a swimmer because there was number
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  sunscreen when I was a teenager. And you didn't wear a hat?
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  Are you kidding? They were all going for that.
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  Iodine. Band the band du Soleil.
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  Remember that commercial band du Soleil?
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  Oh, simply band that Lady. That I remember when that came.
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  Out right, so do I and. You know what we said that came
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  out and it was SPF 246 and the strongest was 8 and we all said
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  I'm not wearing sunscreen. Nobody's going to wear an 8.
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  Right. I'm going to get a tail.
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  So what kind of what kind of athlete were you?
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  I was. A swimmer.
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  I was a nationally ranked AAU swimmer.
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  I swam in college. I actually swam on the men's
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  team my freshman year because before Title 9 came along and
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  then I got the first athletic scholarship at University of
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  Oklahoma. Well, that's fantastic.
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  That's. A or a female athlete and I do
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  still hold some Big 8 was the Big 8 back then.
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  So I, I still, well, we're not in the Big eight anymore, but I
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  still held some Big 8 records. I held school records for a long
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  time, but they don't they discontinue.
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  What are the big 8 records inquiring my?
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  200 they'll say 200 yard backstroke. 100 individual
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  medley. Trying to remember multiple
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  years, so mostly for backstroke. 100 backstroke. 200 Backstroke.
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  So you're not a slacker by any means.
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  No, we swam 10 miles a day wow all through college and lifted
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  weights. So when I graduated college I
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  had like a 16 inch neck. Oh my.
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  And I weighed about 145 lbs. It took a while to get what I
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  laughed my mom when I got back to this size, she asked me look
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  this used to looking at me so big for so long.
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  I remember her pulling me aside and asking if basically whatever
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  it was in my anorexic bling. I'm like, no, I'm normal.
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  This is this is how normal females look, Mom, I love to eat
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  that's. Funny.
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  Well, you know, athletes, I was a wrestler.
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  So I know, you know, wrestlers, you got to make weight and stuff
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  like that. So I never did anything crazy
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  like that. So you also meant so we're so
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  we're we're we're a swimmer who holds records, which is pretty
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  legit. And do those records still
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  stand? Well, they do, because.
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  You know, even though right, right.
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  So what was, what was the, what was the time on those that you
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  did? Oh my gosh, Let's see, 200 yard
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  back, probably about two minutes, which, you know, it
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  wouldn't. Yeah, and my backstroke was
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  faster than my freestyle. Wow.
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  OK, Really. It has to do with dynamics and a
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  little bit of female drag, but I'm very double jointed, you can
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  see that. Oh wow.
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  That's crazy. My arms straight.
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  OK, so that cut off a couple of seconds.
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  That literally the movement from here to here.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  So being able to come up and go straight into the water.
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  You're going way more straight back than anybody else by a
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  landslide. Yeah.
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  So that's kind of why Michael Phelps was what how successful
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  he was because. Yeah, it's weird looking, Yes,
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  that's why some. Hello hobby.
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  Was that the hobby or was that the doorbell?
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  You know, I love Michael Phelps because he really helped bring
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  to the public the power of visualization.
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  I mean, we, I learned all of that business Swarmer coaches
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  had us do that. The power of visualization,
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  setting goals, that whole piece that translates into business as
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  well. Sure, sure.
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  Absolutely. So you also mentioned your
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  mother and you have you have two children or two of grown-ups?
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  Grown up kids, yes. Two sometimes grown up.
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  OK, hopefully they're not watching this.
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  Right. How old?
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  How old are the kids? Late 40s and 5050 one something
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  like that. OK, boys, girls.
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  Girls. OK.
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  And you only have two grandkids out of the two daughters.
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  Yes, one girl and one boy. Oh nice.
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  OK, and how old are the grandkids?
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  One's 12 and one just turned 16. Oh, nice.
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  OK, yeah. And what, what is it?
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  What did your Did your daughters follow in your swimming
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  footsteps? No, they didn't.
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  No. You know why I swam my I'm the
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  oldest of five kids, and my parents put us in swimming to
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  keep us all out of trouble. Well, there you go.
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  Because with five kids, there's always someone to get in trouble
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  with. Yeah.
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  Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Now with with the with the four siblings, were any of the other
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  ones as successful at swimming like you were?
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  Yes, my the sister right behind me swam on a scholarship for a
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  couple of years at Oklahoma State.
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  We actually swam against each other one year.
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  Not same event, but team team did.
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  Your team win. Pardon did.
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  Your team win. Yes, but she still, she still
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  swims and she's actually a master's.
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  She does master's swimming and she's nationally ranked so.
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  That's fantastic. Yeah, I was tired of swimming.
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  She I think she quit a couple of years in to pursue her degree.
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  It's it's hard to be an athlete and and study and travel to
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  meet. And that's why so many athletes
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  don't actually do very well in school.
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  So I tried to balance that. But when I was when I graduated,
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  I was like, I'm done. I don't want to see a pool ever
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  again. I love the beach.
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  I love the beach. No pool.
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  And and and you and you set your record.
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  So what else you going to do? You know, I mean, that's, that's
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  good. OK.
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  And your husband you referenced that's Ron, I'm assuming because
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  of the e-mail, right, right. And he's a, he's a
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  pharmacologist. He's a, it's called a pharm D,
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  So it's a doctor of pharmacology.
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  So it's like a pharmacist but with a, with a doctorate.
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  It's like it's like same degree as a medical doctor without
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  cutting on cadavers. Oh.
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  So it's you've heard of compounding pharmacist it it the
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  art of that. So that's an advanced.
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  So he would have been a compounding Dr. of pharmacology
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  that's come back because of peptides.
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  So it was a dying art because of automation and it just with
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  pills and all of that. So the compounding, the art of
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  compounding is is in demand again.
• 23:55
  OK, so from a, from a perspective of you guys, let's
• 23:58
  go, let's talk about the peptides because we had somebody
• 24:00
  that came on the show, which Mike and I didn't know he was so
• 24:03
  heavily involved in that aspect of life, something I've known
• 24:07
  for years. So when he started dropping his
• 24:08
  peptide bombs were like, wow. So the fact that your your
• 24:11
  husband's a doctor of pharmacology, I think it would
• 24:13
  be interesting to kind of open up this box a little bit more
• 24:16
  and talk about the peptides from his point of view and your point
• 24:19
  of view and and the benefits because you said yours are plant
• 24:23
  based. OK, so the topical elixir,
• 24:28
  that's the natural alternative to injectables.
• 24:33
  It has three different formulas in it from 2, two different
• 24:39
  science groups. 1 is in Brazil with like 40 scientists and they
• 24:44
  discovered studied plant peptides that are a bio
• 24:51
  stimulator for the face. OK.
• 24:54
  And so yes, it has plant peptides and plant stem cells.
• 24:58
  With so what's the so what's the difference between a plant
• 25:01
  peptide and the normal peptides 'cause I you gotta, you have to
• 25:05
  look at it this way. We're ignorant.
• 25:08
  We're five years old. So I want you to explain it to
• 25:10
  us so we can understand. So those who are watching and
• 25:12
  we'll watch this can understand the benefits of the plant based
• 25:15
  stuff versus the peptides, the Ridge of the normal peptides.
• 25:19
  That makes sense. Well, I don't think that's going
• 25:21
  to be her area of expertise. Though yeah, you're and you're
• 25:24
  right. And what I was going to say is,
• 25:26
  so I'm happy you'd probably enjoy having run on.
• 25:31
  What I was going to say is my understanding of peptides that
• 25:37
  you're taking for functions for the body that injectables are
• 25:42
  where you want to go because because it's not having to go
• 25:48
  through the gut. Gotcha.
• 25:49
  OK. OK, that.
• 25:51
  Makes that. Makes sense.
• 25:52
  I, I do laugh a little bit when I see people selling plant
• 25:58
  peptides as or any type of peptide, right, because that's a
• 26:04
  hot, you know, word right now that's an that that you take
• 26:08
  orally because it's got to go through the gut process and that
• 26:13
  I mean, that's that whole thing with pre and probiotics and that
• 26:17
  whole science of freeze drying and all of that.
• 26:20
  This is like, this is like this is revolutionary.
• 26:26
  I laughed when they first said plant topical plant peptide stem
• 26:32
  cells. And then when you look at the
• 26:34
  science, it is mind blowing. It is it, I mean in, in a, in a,
• 26:41
  in clinical trials in 12 weeks, a third party 100% of people saw
• 26:49
  visible results. That's like in a clinical trial,
• 26:52
  you don't get 100%. Correct.
• 26:55
  And and 100% of people saw visible results.
• 27:00
  OK, so what's what's the amount of time that someone should use
• 27:04
  the product to actually see it does?
• 27:05
  It give it 90 days. Yeah, give it 90 days.
• 27:08
  And we and we ask everybody to take a before photo because as I
• 27:13
  always say, you can't see your face change, like you can't see
• 27:17
  your hair grow, correct. It's like all of a sudden one
• 27:21
  day it's like Oh my God, I need a haircut.
• 27:23
  What happened? Yeah, so.
• 27:25
  Unless you shave your head and then you can watch it grow.
• 27:28
  There you go, You know? So just give it 90 days.
• 27:32
  Oh my gosh. Yeah, neither one of us have
• 27:34
  hair. I should go get a ball cap.
• 27:39
  Funny that. Funny you should mention that's
• 27:41
  why I shaved my head. I was in a play dress rehearsal
• 27:44
  night when we took the bald cap off, it ripped.
• 27:47
  And back then it was like you couldn't, there was no Amazon.
• 27:50
  So it was like 2 weeks to get a bald cap from New York.
• 27:52
  So we're like, wow, I'll just shave my head.
• 27:54
  And so the next day I went to the Barber shop and shaved my
• 27:56
  head. Oh wow, that.
• 27:57
  Was 93, so it's. Just that's a.
• 28:02
  Perfect head for it, perfect head for it.
• 28:04
  I, I grew it out one my first year in real estate just 'cause
• 28:07
  I look like such a a baby and then I just got tired of it.
• 28:10
  I had hair and a beard. I'm like, this is stupid.
• 28:12
  That's not me. I just I I removed it all and.
• 28:15
  Yeah, and you look good in both of you.
• 28:17
  You got it big enough, so you got the forehead for it, which
• 28:20
  means you got a few brains in there.
• 28:22
  You do like to have fun. There's a.
• 28:25
  Couple left a. Little bit of brains for sure.
• 28:29
  So, so of all the three products you have, because you've
• 28:31
  mentioned three of them. So we have the topical right
• 28:33
  with the plant, the plant peptides and the and the plant
• 28:36
  stem cells. What's a plant stem cell?
• 28:39
  Stem cell from a plant. Yeah, so or not because so it's
• 28:43
  a cell concept. So one of the things, so it's
• 28:48
  like the the foundation that helps it grow.
• 28:55
  OK. OK, cool.
• 28:57
  The other thing, you want to hear something even crazier?
• 29:00
  So one of the formulas in here, this is crazy.
• 29:03
  One of the four. So there's three different
• 29:05
  formulas in here. There's the one that activates
• 29:07
  the muscles. There's another one that builds
• 29:10
  collagen in the skin, which is. Super important, which is super.
• 29:15
  Collagen right right to help give you volume.
• 29:18
  So Botox builds collagen in your skin over multiple injections,
• 29:24
  65% the fillers, which are microfillers, which are painful
• 29:30
  and expensive. It's like 400 percent, 30 days,
• 29:35
  12123% in the clinical, in the in the science.
• 29:41
  So when you. Put 100%.
• 29:43
  So when you put it on your face, do you, do you, do you feel it
• 29:46
  activating like, like when you're lifting rates weights,
• 29:48
  right? Like when you're doing curls,
• 29:49
  you feel the muscle contracting and, you know, in and out.
• 29:52
  And so you after you're done, right, you get the burn like,
• 29:54
  oh, I'm all swollen up. Yeah.
• 29:56
  Do you feel it activating on your face?
• 29:59
  Actually you do not really feel anything, but when I started
• 30:03
  noticing after a couple of weeks, even though I couldn't
• 30:07
  see it in the mirror, it felt tighter, firmer, like your like
• 30:11
  your muscles. That's yeah, that's what I was
• 30:12
  getting after. So it does it, it does.
• 30:15
  It's like I would wake up in the morning and go, wow, my face
• 30:18
  starting to feel firmer, not that loose.
• 30:22
  And you know, it's a function of.
• 30:24
  For me it was a function of loss of collagen in my face.
• 30:28
  Which which we're learning that women, when you start going
• 30:31
  through premenopausal menopause, the biggest things you lose
• 30:34
  right is the collagen. Yes, actually you start losing
• 30:38
  in your 20s your collagen. Really.
• 30:41
  Yes, just just the women though, because men don't seem to have
• 30:44
  the same problems that women don't it.
• 30:45
  Comes to that, you know I'm betting that part of it is and
• 30:51
  probably why it took longer for me is the more men are
• 30:56
  exercising moving so but I'm I'm I'm going to say that you're
• 31:03
  losing collagen as well so I do take we do have a product that's
• 31:07
  a clean marine collagen that is activates fat Browning white fat
• 31:13
  to brown. OK, so why is that?
• 31:16
  Why is that? Why is that important?
• 31:17
  Because, again, not everybody's going to understand.
• 31:19
  That I know most people haven't heard of fat brownies.
• 31:20
  Very interesting. That's why I'm asking the
• 31:22
  question, Leslie. Yeah.
• 31:24
  So you're born with brown fat and as you grow you lose it, and
• 31:32
  then you end up with that white fluffy fat like that you don't
• 31:36
  want. Right, the love handles.
• 31:39
  Yes, I started to say. Well, my daughter and for me,
• 31:42
  they're called Muffin Talks. OK, Muffin talks.
• 31:45
  I said love handles too. I think love handles because you
• 31:47
  got to get, you got something to hold on to, you know?
• 31:50
  Yeah, love handles. So you want.
• 31:54
  So scientists had decided up until about 10-11 years ago that
• 31:59
  once you lost your brown fat, you lost it and they discovered
• 32:03
  that they could actually take white fat and start Beijing it
• 32:08
  making it brown. So you want brown fat because
• 32:11
  it's a smaller lipid and it's easier for your body to burn.
• 32:16
  It's what gives you energy. And I actually have one sitting
• 32:21
  here because. So I just put this in my coffee
• 32:24
  in the morning. Or you could put it in tea.
• 32:26
  Yeah. And what's interesting is you
• 32:30
  actually have heard of fat brailline.
• 32:32
  You just didn't realize why people are doing it.
• 32:34
  It's the cold plunge craze. Oh, yes, yes.
• 32:38
  The goal is is to activate the cells to create brown fat which
• 32:45
  helps protect you for warmth. Now for me, cold plunging?
• 32:51
  No thanks. Yeah, yeah.
• 32:53
  What? And it's not very good for?
• 32:55
  There's some recent research in the last few months that show
• 32:58
  cold plunging isn't actually very good for women.
• 33:01
  Men, yes. Yeah.
• 33:03
  And I think. Women know what has to do with
• 33:05
  your cycle and. Sure got.
• 33:08
  You various different functions of the body, but you do want you
• 33:13
  do want to activate your your brown fat.
• 33:18
  And so this product actually is part of our line as well.
• 33:22
  And it comes from Taiwan. That's where the research was
• 33:26
  done, where the scientists discovered that you could
• 33:29
  activate white fat and convert it to brown.
• 33:33
  And it's leaner. So I actually have photos of
• 33:36
  people that are in shape. They've got some inflammation
• 33:42
  and it it's, you could visibly see how it tightened up.
• 33:49
  OK, Yeah, we've learned about inflammation with with breads
• 33:51
  and bad starches. Yes.
• 33:54
  So we had a health, a health, a health Wellness coach on and
• 33:57
  then our fitness guy Nate Palmer was on Peter Ho and Peter
• 34:00
  Palmer, Peter Palmer, Nate Palmer and Peter Ho.
• 34:04
  But because of that episode, I, my wife and I stopped eating
• 34:08
  breads and crackers, which suck because we love Ritz crackers.
• 34:11
  Ritz crackers are so bad for you.
• 34:13
  Oh my God. I didn't even know till I looked
• 34:14
  it up. It's like insane.
• 34:16
  So we stopped doing all that purposely because I have
• 34:19
  degenerating vertebrae in my neck.
• 34:21
  So I wanted to see if the inflammation part of it would go
• 34:25
  away and it it Oh my gosh, like it within two weeks, I could see
• 34:29
  a difference of the of the pain that was coming out of the neck
• 34:32
  because the inflammation went away.
• 34:34
  So definitely a big difference on that just from stopping the
• 34:37
  bad starches and the crackers and things like that and trying
• 34:40
  to go more, not completely Whole Foods, but more of a Whole Foods
• 34:44
  approach. I I we call it mindful eating.
• 34:49
  I like that. I, I, it's not that I don't ever
• 34:53
  do crackers or starch, but I'm mindful about it.
• 34:58
  It's like not an everyday occurrence or not that I don't
• 35:02
  ever have a dessert, but it's just it's.
• 35:06
  Every single meal, right? Yeah, I like that.
• 35:09
  Yeah. I call it lifestyle change
• 35:10
  because to me, people will diet, diet, diet.
• 35:12
  Well, diets fail, lifestyles don't.
• 35:14
  If you adjust your lifestyle, then you know everything's works
• 35:18
  better. So we have the, the topical
• 35:20
  cream that you use that energizes and, and helps the
• 35:22
  collagen and tighten the face and, and the baby, the baby's
• 35:25
  stem. A cell helps develop that you
• 35:28
  have the the you just drop the bomb on the is it it's a
• 35:32
  supplement to help burn the turn the brown to white fat, which is
• 35:36
  good. And what was and you had two
• 35:37
  other things you talked about when you started.
• 35:39
  What were those two other concepts?
• 35:40
  Products. This was just a so in the skin
• 35:45
  care industry, you have this thing where they say, oh, skin
• 35:53
  care for your 20s, your 30s, your 40s, your 50s.
• 35:56
  You're a man. You're, you know, skin is skin.
• 35:58
  But the challenge is, so one of my brothers who's a biochemist
• 36:04
  and a neuroscientist who who works with me, that's another
• 36:08
  story. He's a martial artist and he he
• 36:10
  didn't want to move with his lab back to Harvard, to Boston.
• 36:15
  He wanted to stay in Texas for family.
• 36:18
  But what he said to me made so much sense, 'cause after he did
• 36:21
  research, 'cause he never researched again.
• 36:24
  He said most everything on the market is masking symptoms.
• 36:29
  Oh, and these these day and night cream, the reason they
• 36:34
  work on African American, Caucasian, Latin Indian oily dry
• 36:41
  is because they're working in the skin.
• 36:43
  Oh, OK, so you're the skin is skin.
• 36:47
  That's right, right. So we actually launched and did
• 36:51
  100 million our first full year with this night cream and and
• 36:57
  because we disrupted the space and men love it because men will
• 37:00
  do one step. Yeah.
• 37:02
  You remember when men's skin care broke on the market?
• 37:06
  I laughed because they're like 5 steps like men.
• 37:10
  My husband wasn't even washing his face before me.
• 37:14
  I never knew that until I watched him.
• 37:17
  Because you need your face a little bit damp, which is
• 37:20
  happens after you wash it. So we're we're at the sink.
• 37:24
  We double sink and I look over there and I see him doing like
• 37:29
  with a little bit of water to dampen his face.
• 37:31
  And I'm like, what are you doing?
• 37:33
  Yeah. You're like, OK, Leslie, he's
• 37:35
  using the skin care. Leave him alone.
• 37:38
  Do not comment. So he also looks way younger
• 37:43
  than it. No one guesses his age.
• 37:45
  It's. And how old is he?
• 37:47
  He's 78. OK.
• 37:49
  And you could see a photo of him on the website.
• 37:51
  He he doesn't. And what do?
• 37:53
  What do most people think his age is?
• 37:56
  I'm on. Your website guessed him late
• 37:58
  50s. OK, so I'm on your website.
• 38:00
  Where's the picture of him? Is it the one where you're on
• 38:03
  stage? Yes.
• 38:05
  The one that's. Probably about 5 or 6 years ago.
• 38:08
  OK. Is he?
• 38:09
  Is he in the glasses or no glasses?
• 38:11
  He has glasses. OK, yeah, I wouldn't.
• 38:14
  I wouldn't. And so even five years ago, I
• 38:16
  wouldn't guess he was 73. Yeah.
• 38:19
  Right. There's no way.
• 38:20
  That's insane. Yeah.
• 38:22
  And then the gentleman to the right of you, I'm looking at it
• 38:25
  would be to your left. So I highly recommend his book.
• 38:28
  He's the CEO of the company. He's the best selling author of
• 38:32
  The Slight Edge, Jeff Olson. OK.
• 38:35
  And he's is he really like? And real estate, There was a guy
• 38:39
  who's big in real estate online. He did an interview with Jeff.
• 38:45
  But real estate, insurance, banking, sports, that is a great
• 38:51
  book about the philosophy of us, of business and life.
• 38:58
  Really. It's called the Slight Edge, you
• 39:00
  guys. Yeah, so in this picture he's
• 39:03
  probably like 102, but he looks like he's.
• 39:05
  No, he's the the one picture and that picture he's probably late
• 39:13
  60s. OK, it doesn't, but he doesn't
• 39:15
  look it, no. But because he's big into, I
• 39:18
  mean, he he does he he also does peptides, does all the skin
• 39:24
  care, does all of the Wellness products that we have because
• 39:29
  the the fat Browning actually has three simple powders that go
• 39:34
  together free and probiotic under your tongue before lunch
• 39:38
  helps your body properly use carbs and fats.
• 39:41
  And then at night, the cleansing calm.
• 39:44
  So he's using all of that. Nice.
• 39:49
  So really it's hacking. You want to look as young as you
• 39:55
  feel, in my opinion. So for me it's it's not as much.
• 40:01
  Originally it started with our night cream because I wanted to
• 40:04
  get rid of all the discoloration.
• 40:07
  Oh, from the swimming. And stuff.
• 40:09
  And then I was concerned about the health of my skin because I
• 40:12
  had baked the crap out of my skin for decades swimming.
• 40:18
  And then as I got older it became about, hey, I want to
• 40:22
  look as young as I feel. I feel great.
• 40:24
  Yeah. So.
• 40:28
  Yeah, that's fascinating. Yeah.
• 40:30
  So. So let's do a little plug so
• 40:32
  people can find you again. So the website
• 40:34
  islesliehawker.com. Yes.
• 40:37
  And it's LESL i.e. H go to Leslie.
• 40:40
  Yes, LESL i.e. HOCKER, go to lesliehawker.com.
• 40:45
  I also one of the things that I do is when you go there, I have
• 40:50
  a freebie for you on daily Affirmations for Success.
• 40:56
  Cool. Very nice.
• 40:58
  And, and then let me know, you know, reach out and you can also
• 41:04
  find me on Facebook. Right.
• 41:07
  Leslie Hawker. Leslie Hawker on Facebook.
• 41:08
  Yes. And you can find me on Instagram
• 41:11
  and LinkedIn. Look at that.
• 41:15
  So on all on all platforms that you have it.
• 41:17
  So just search your name Leslie Hawker and they'll find you.
• 41:19
  Facebook, Instagram. Yes they should.
• 41:22
  On Instagram and Facebook. I'm actually in a pink shirt.
• 41:26
  OK. On on LinkedIn, which I'm not
• 41:32
  quite as active, but on LinkedIn I'm there as Leslie Hocker.
• 41:37
  You should be a little more active on LinkedIn because you
• 41:39
  can open up the door to SO. You know that's an.
• 41:42
  Opportunity. People have told me so I'll take
• 41:45
  that to heart. Yeah, I've, I've put because I,
• 41:48
  I, my real life is, is real estate.
• 41:50
  I've been selling houses for 25 years.
• 41:52
  So I've done stuff on LinkedIn and they say, oh, you'll never
• 41:55
  get business off LinkedIn. But I've actually gotten
• 41:57
  business off. I have AI, forget what it's
• 42:00
  called. It's it's a, it's a, it's a
• 42:03
  channel within my channel. It's just learning with the real
• 42:05
  estate guy. But I've gathered I've garnered
• 42:08
  some business off of that just for whatever random topics I did
• 42:11
  at the time, which I thought was interesting because the same
• 42:14
  concept like back in the day, Instagram, you're not going to
• 42:16
  get business on Instagram. And you know, it's a platform to
• 42:18
  get business now. So especially with your before
• 42:21
  and after stuff, I think if you started posting some before and
• 42:23
  after stuff success stories on LinkedIn, you might you might be
• 42:26
  surprised because you're going to go after corporate America,
• 42:29
  right? And who doesn't want to look
• 42:31
  young in corporate America? And you know, what's surprising
• 42:34
  is a lot of men are getting a Botox because they, they don't,
• 42:39
  they don't want to, to keep their job.
• 42:43
  I guess when they're interviewing or whatever, they
• 42:45
  can't ask, how old are you? But people are judged.
• 42:49
  Right. That's because that's ageism,
• 42:51
  right? You can't be like, like, did you
• 42:53
  ever watch the series The Office?
• 42:55
  Yes, yeah. OK, so remember, remember when
• 42:58
  when when one of the one of the new off managers came in and
• 43:01
  they were trying to change the ageism thing?
• 43:04
  So Creed took all the black toner out of the out of the
• 43:07
  printer and dyed his hair black, right?
• 43:10
  Nothing. And he walks up to Ryan.
• 43:13
  The champion's like, what up, bro?
• 43:14
  And. They're just like, yeah, it was.
• 43:20
  Something was going on where Michael and I don't remember
• 43:21
  what I was exactly, but that was that was funny because he was
• 43:24
  like, I'm not, I'm not old. Oh, that's hilarious.
• 43:26
  I'm younger than everybody else, which is quite the comical
• 43:30
  thing. So cool.
• 43:32
  So Leslie hawker.com. You can find her on Facebook and
• 43:35
  Instagram as well as LinkedIn. I'll search Leslie Hawker life
• 43:39
  hacking the keeping yourself look younger with with plant
• 43:43
  based peptides and plant based stem cells.
• 43:46
  She's living proof. I forget how old she is, but she
• 43:49
  doesn't look it because when she said it, it was like there's no
• 43:53
  way her husband, you know, I looked at a picture of him from
• 43:57
  five years ago and he looks and he was 70.
• 43:59
  He's 78 now, so 73 didn't he doesn't look it.
• 44:02
  It's all natural. It takes about 90 days to see
• 44:04
  results correct. Actually some people see results
• 44:08
  in just a few days. It just depends on your age, how
• 44:12
  old you are. In the clinical trials, some
• 44:15
  people saw results with the filler Future of filler in two
• 44:20
  hours. So the filler, the filler itself
• 44:23
  is just kind of you're, it's not, it's not going internally
• 44:26
  like the real fillers, it's just going in and filling in the.
• 44:29
  It's a topical and it's stimulating, OK, the muscles in
• 44:34
  your face and then. It's absorbed, your pores absorb
• 44:37
  it. And then it's activating the
• 44:39
  baby collagen. I don't know, people realize
• 44:43
  it's the baby collagen. You see the volume loss.
• 44:46
  Gotcha. OK, cool.
• 44:47
  That's. Awesome, Which you know, we had
• 44:49
  as babies. So yes, it's very, it's topical,
• 44:51
  but it is working in the skin to do something.
• 44:55
  I, I would say give it 90 days. I mean, we do have a 60 day
• 44:59
  money back guarantee. So at least give it, at least
• 45:02
  give it 60 days something. So then you and you have the day
• 45:05
  and night cream. So you put the topical cream on
• 45:09
  how many times? Wash your face morning.
• 45:12
  Put it on 2 pumps. Evening put it on 2 pumps and
• 45:16
  then your night cream on top, your day cream on top of it.
• 45:20
  Top, OK. And then for women, they can put
• 45:22
  makeup on on top of that without.
• 45:24
  Yeah, OK, OK, cool. That's yes.
• 45:28
  Right on. Well, we want to have you back
• 45:30
  and have and then have you bring Ron because it'd be fun to have
• 45:33
  the the science behind it as well, because Mike and I just
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  have fascinated with different things.
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  So I think that would be cool at some point in time get him on
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  and you guys can share more of the the science behind
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  everything. I'd be happy to do that.
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  He's a lot of fun like you guys. Well, good.
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  Well, we, we super appreciate you coming on the show, Leslie.
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  And again, we'll, we'll share links and stuff when this drops.
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  I will send you all of the reels that we generate from this so
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  you can share them on all your platforms as well to help
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  promote your business. And we will do our part to help
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  you as well. I appreciate that.
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  It's my pleasure. Thanks for coming on.
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  All right. See you guys later.
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  Have a fantastic day. Oh, and hey, before we leave, I
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  almost forgot our standard leaving thing.
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  Hey, don't let the bad days win. Tomorrow is another day.
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  So if you're feeling depressed and sad and and suicidal, reach
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  out to somebody. Because somebody does love you,
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  whether you believe that or not, you know, Go to sleep tonight,
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  Wake up tomorrow. It's a better day.
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  Someone will miss you, someone loves you.
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  Don't leave a hole in their heart because you decided to
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  vacate this world without talking to somebody.
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  With that being said, nothing but love.
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  And I love it. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Love you, brother.
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  Love you. Love you too, man.
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  Love you, Leslie. Thanks for coming on.
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  Tell Ron. Nice.
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  To meet you, yeah. Bye.
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  Great. Day bye.
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  The place where you will go.
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  Take a moment. Now you're turning come down
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  here. You haven't found something, you
• 48:56
  see you're saying fuck fighting. Wait for the day when he's
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  supposed to arrive in a hit for the way the creature we're
• 49:10
  playing frown and you should you put it on the almighty man.
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  You gotta dream who in your life to keep our soul in every man.
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  Take the trail behind your eyes. Feel the soul evolution now.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Take a moment.
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  You gotta. You gotta.
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  You gotta. You gotta.