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Full Show Podcast: 25 August 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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Speaker 1: earlier is show with one roof Love, where you Live
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Speaker 1: News Talks.
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Speaker 2: It'd be good morning at six a half to five.
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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell on this new police recruit story this morning.
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Speaker 2: Gavin Gray in the UK for US, the Lake Fern's
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Speaker 2: already spanking Spain and the Women's Rugby World Cup, and
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Speaker 2: we'll look at this judge's comment on drivee drivers from
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Speaker 2: Friday the agenda. It is Monday, the twenty fifth of August.
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Speaker 2: Israel denies it, of course, but the UN says it's official.
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Speaker 2: There is famine in Gaza.
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Speaker 3: Those who are in Gaza City are facing an unimaginable,
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Speaker 3: untenable decision stay whether there's still not enough food, or
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Speaker 3: leave and rest that you'll never be allowed to give
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Speaker 3: back here.
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Speaker 2: Our Prime Minister Luxeon says there's no change to the
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Speaker 2: timeline for recognizing Palestine's estate. We're working through our own
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Speaker 2: process and we'll have more to talk about that with
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Speaker 2: respect to September and each country's coming to its own view.
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Speaker 2: We're plumb new death something when.
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Speaker 4: You're seeing validated and verified examples of them and that
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Speaker 4: are taking place in Gaza.
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Speaker 2: That is just something that none of us want to see.
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Speaker 5: And that's why as a global community is immense frustration.
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Speaker 2: This a big problem in the UK of migrant hotels.
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Speaker 2: The UK government wants to clear the backlog of asylum seekers.
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Speaker 2: So what are they doing setting up a new committee
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Speaker 2: to clear cases? People?
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Speaker 6: The courts have to make sure that the law is
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Speaker 6: being kept to So we're talking about potential life and
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Speaker 6: death decision. So you have to do this in a
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Speaker 6: fair way.
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Speaker 2: Your labor in a real pickle over this, particularly in
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Speaker 2: some of their safest seats. Their labor constituents are turning
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Speaker 2: to Faraj. I'll tell you more about that later. Ukraine
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Speaker 2: has been celebrating Independence Day, almost ironically. Zelenski's about to
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Speaker 2: continue fighting. Mark Carney's there to celebrate.
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Speaker 7: Canada understands the lessons of history. We know that Putin
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Speaker 7: can never be trusted. We know that true peace and
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Speaker 7: security requires security guarantees for Ukraine.
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Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early
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Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and one roof Love where you
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Speaker 1: Live News talks, that'd.
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Speaker 2: Be Oh, the thin Blue line is looking a little
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Speaker 2: bit wobbly this morning, just a little bit. You know.
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Speaker 2: The government's got this plan, and it's New Zealand first
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Speaker 2: and national to get five hundred extra cops out on
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Speaker 2: the beat. And they had a November deadline. Well they're
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Speaker 2: going to miss that, which is fine, but what you
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Speaker 2: don't want to do is stretch things, take things too far,
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Speaker 2: be too ambitious, and actually end up with half baked cops.
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Speaker 2: And there's a Police College survey of senior cops that's
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Speaker 2: out this morning in the Herald, and this is your
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Speaker 2: field training officers. There are two hundred and thirty of them.
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Speaker 2: And so the police basically went them, bent to them
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Speaker 2: and said, what do you think of the new recruits
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Speaker 2: that are being pumped out. This is a March twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty five survey. Here's what they thought. More than half
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Speaker 2: fifty five percent felt that the new officers were barely
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Speaker 2: or not at all well equipped with knowledge of making
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Speaker 2: an arrest, laying charges, which is quite important stuff. Only
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Speaker 2: two percent, that is just three of the respondents, three
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Speaker 2: of the senior guys, felt that the new bees were
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Speaker 2: actually very well prepared in this area. You know, this
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Speaker 2: is making an arrest, this is telling them why someone's
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Speaker 2: been arrested, making them aware of their rights, all that
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Speaker 2: kind of stuff on paperwork. And remember paperwork might sound
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Speaker 2: naf but it's actually evidence gathering, so it's important when
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Speaker 2: you're trying to get a conviction right paperwork. The survey
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Speaker 2: found eighty three percent of your old timers reckon the
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Speaker 2: new bees were barely or not well at all prepared.
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Speaker 2: This is after they've been through Police College. And remember
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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell increased the number there where you were getting
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Speaker 2: eighty through a wing and he said no, let's do
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Speaker 2: one hundred through a wing, him and Casey Costello. So
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Speaker 2: are they is that at the expense of quality? That'll
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Speaker 2: be the question this morning. And Mark Mitchell is going
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Speaker 2: to do two one thing, one or two things. I
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Speaker 2: just should say when he comes on the show just
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Speaker 2: before six this morning. This survey, as I said, was
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Speaker 2: taken in March over a six month period. So is
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Speaker 2: it labour's fault too? You know? Are we going to
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Speaker 2: play one of those games? I mean you have to
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Speaker 2: say on the basis of that we're going to go
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Speaker 2: and change the curriculum, and indeed the police have said
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Speaker 2: that they're going to do that, make a few changes.
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Speaker 2: Is the problem the quality of the candidates you're getting
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Speaker 2: in there? In the first place, all the quality of
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Speaker 2: the training. Ryan Bridge, ten after five, Mark Mitchell here
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Speaker 2: just before six o'clock and next we'll talk about to
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Speaker 2: a criminal lawyer about this case. It was an interesting one.
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Speaker 2: So the guy has an accident, he's on drugs, is
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Speaker 2: on a cannabis. Sadly one of his mates in the
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Speaker 2: car dies, another one ends up in a wheelchair and
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Speaker 2: the judge says you should go to prison for that. Now,
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Speaker 2: why is this news? That's next?
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Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan
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Speaker 1: Bridge and one roof Love.
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Speaker 2: You Live News talks that'd been It's a much needed
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Speaker 2: investment coming to New Zealand at thirteen minutes after five.
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Speaker 2: I read this yesterday, twenty two million dollars of investment
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Speaker 2: coming from drifter to hotels and hostels. I've actually stayed
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Speaker 2: in one of these over in Australia. They've got one
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Speaker 2: already in christ Church near the new Stadium to Kaha.
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Speaker 2: They are opening new locations, two new locations. One's in Auckland,
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Speaker 2: one is in Auckland and one will be in Wellington.
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Speaker 2: And this is good, this is good news. It's a hybrid.
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Speaker 2: As the name you can probably tell from hotels hostels.
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Speaker 2: It's kind of a hybrid. You can stay in a
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Speaker 2: nicer room or you can stay in a hostel, depending
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Speaker 2: on your budget. Anyway, they will do three hundred travelers
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Speaker 2: in Wellington, and they will do four hundred in Auckland
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Speaker 2: and just sort of the guy who runs it over
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Speaker 2: in Australia. This guy is from Drifter, Luke Moran. He
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Speaker 2: says it's probably the tourism sector and a bit of
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Speaker 2: a lull in New Zealand at the moment, but I'm
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Speaker 2: still very positive on the New Zealand market outlook as
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Speaker 2: to the longer term growth and viability, which is good,
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Speaker 2: he said. I saw in an interesting article the other
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Speaker 2: day about New Zealand being that number one globally ranked
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Speaker 2: as the adventure capital of the world. So I'd like
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Speaker 2: to see a little bit more marketing focused on that
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Speaker 2: from Tourism New Zealand, and I thought, yeah, we do it.
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Speaker 2: We've been going with the pure thing quite hard, haven't we.
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Speaker 2: Maybe we crank back up the a thrill secret the
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Speaker 2: adventurer side of it, that adventure of spirit, the bungees,
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Speaker 2: the jetboats, the mountain biking, the mountaineering, all that stuff.
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Speaker 2: Fourteen after five Bridge, where's the line on drug driving?
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Speaker 2: On Friday, a twenty year old Napier man found it
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Speaker 2: two years behind bars after a cannabis fuel crash that
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Speaker 2: killed one of his friends and left another in a wheelchair.
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Speaker 2: The judge says, if you kill someone when driving under
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Speaker 2: the influence of drugs or alcohol, you can expect to
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Speaker 2: go to jail, even with no previous convictions. Steve Cullen
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Speaker 2: is a criminal lawyer joining us this morning. Morning Steve, Good.
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Speaker 8: Morning, Ryan.
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Speaker 2: I would have thought that was obvious.
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Speaker 8: It certainly is, given that the starting points in the
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Speaker 8: vicinity of four and a half to five years imprisonment,
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Speaker 8: there's in the never ability that anybody caught in that
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Speaker 8: type of situation will find themselves behind bars.
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Speaker 2: He gets discounts twenty percent for guilty plea, fifteen percent
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Speaker 2: for youth, five percent for restorative justice, ten percent for rehab,
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Speaker 2: so that gets him down to two point twenty five.
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Speaker 2: So he was actually very close to potentially getting home d.
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Speaker 8: That's right, he went. If you effected those in he
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Speaker 8: began at the starting point of four and a half years,
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Speaker 8: so fifty percent discounts still takes you to two point
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Speaker 8: twenty five. You've got to be down to two years
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Speaker 8: or less to even be eligible for consideration for attention.
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Speaker 8: If you have a breast level over the statut Tree
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Speaker 8: prosecutable level, or a blood level over that level, or
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Speaker 8: elements of drugs in your system, such as you're in
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Speaker 8: kempble of proper control and somebody dies, you're going to
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Speaker 8: go to jail.
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Speaker 2: A judge's becoming harsher or is it just always the
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Speaker 2: way it's been.
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Speaker 8: It's always the way it's been. I've had two or
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Speaker 8: three of these, and one relatively recently, and I remember
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Speaker 8: the judge they're looking founded when a submission was made
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Speaker 8: by ironically the prosecution that the starting point was lower.
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Speaker 8: The judge refered to an authority where a man even
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Speaker 8: killed his own child driving under the influence of drink
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Speaker 8: or drugs and wound up facing a term imprisonment. It's
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Speaker 8: simply the way that the law has developed, because if
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Speaker 8: people have been killed due to drug drivers or drink
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Speaker 8: drivers being on the road, then a harsh penalty has
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Speaker 8: to be opposed to send the message to everybody. And
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Speaker 8: as on the judge Collins has been trying to vocalize
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Speaker 8: that so that people understand the risks they're undertaking.
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Speaker 2: It's a good message to get through. Who cares if
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Speaker 2: there's no previous conviction, someone's died.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, how many people you are allowed to kill before
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Speaker 8: you should face go into prison?
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Speaker 2: It's absurd, Steve, appreciate your time. Steve Cullen, criminal lawyer.
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Speaker 2: It is sixteen after five News talks'd be We'll get
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Speaker 2: to Andrew Ordison on the Black Ferns and the rest
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Speaker 2: of the morning's sport.
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Speaker 1: Next on your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition
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Speaker 1: with Ryan Bridge and one roof Love where you Live
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Speaker 1: News Talks.
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Speaker 2: He'd been five nineteen. It was reading an interesting piece.
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Speaker 2: This was on Interest dot Co Dottings Edit the Weekend
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Speaker 2: from Richard Mead. He's with the Center for Applied Energy
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Speaker 2: Economics and Policy at Griffith University. You know, last week
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Speaker 2: we were talking about the electricity sector and the gent tailors.
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Speaker 2: So you generate and then your retail the generators giving
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Speaker 2: their own retail arms discounts, and they're not giving those
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Speaker 2: discounts to other players, and it's unfair, and so the
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Speaker 2: government says, hey, Genesis, Meridian, Mercury and Contact come here.
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Speaker 2: You must give everybody else the same terms and the
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Speaker 2: same price, so that the market is fairer. He makes
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Speaker 2: a really interesting point. He says, well, who would do that.
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Speaker 2: No firm would offer their rivals lower prices, especially when
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Speaker 2: that lower price comes from their investment in infrastructure and
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Speaker 2: generating new power themselves. So what will they do. They
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Speaker 2: will increase the amount they charge themselves and keep everybody
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Speaker 2: else the same, and the net effect is more expensive
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Speaker 2: electricity for us. So perversely, what the government's trying to
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Speaker 2: do could actually push the price of power up. Twenty
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Speaker 2: after five would be Andrew Ortison here with sport. Hey,
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Speaker 2: Andrew Greeting's Ryan. Good to see ye. Now the weekend
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Speaker 2: this morning going great, but the weekend not so great
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Speaker 2: for the ab.
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Speaker 4: Steam coming out of the years, isn't it for many fans?
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Speaker 4: I think seeing that performance so just the the ill discipline,
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Speaker 4: the battle in the air, losing that one against lost Pimers.
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Speaker 4: We can't take anything away from the Pumas here. They've
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Speaker 4: come back having lost that first match and you know,
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Speaker 4: chapeau to them really, I mean, fantastic performance. But the
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Speaker 4: All Black this is a side that's way off presumably
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Speaker 4: their best. I mean they're looking like I know you
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Speaker 4: wouldn't call it one of the great all Black teams
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Speaker 4: at the moment. Albeit it's made the Rugby Championship quite
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Speaker 4: interesting with each of the sides with a winning so far.
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Speaker 2: But I would have thought if.
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Speaker 4: We look ahead here the Fortress at Eden Park scenario
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Speaker 4: against Africa, and that makes for a crack it doesn't
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Speaker 4: it on September six weeks from now just under is
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Speaker 4: that going to hold?
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Speaker 2: Is that a line call at the moment?
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Speaker 9: Oh?
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Speaker 2: I think so.
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Speaker 4: If if not, you know, when you look at the
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Speaker 4: strength of South Africa over the last few years, that's
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Speaker 4: going to be some pressure for the Allwicks to take
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Speaker 4: into that one, to uphold that legacy if you like.
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Speaker 2: Now the Rugby Woman's World Cup, the Black fans in Spain.
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Speaker 2: Georgia Miller on debut. Already she scored two trays. He's
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Speaker 2: one of them, Georgia Miller, A little dummy from Miller.
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Speaker 7: The step Georgia Miller.
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Speaker 6: Welcome to the Rugby World Cup.
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Speaker 4: So far, Georgia Miller, the star Ryan. I have to
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Speaker 4: say a couple of tries there. One was set up
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Speaker 4: for on the on the right flank.
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Speaker 2: That was fine.
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Speaker 4: There was a lovely peace women she had to sort
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Speaker 4: of evade and bullock her way over probably about twenty
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Speaker 4: two meters out there, as you heard in that clip.
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Speaker 4: But you know they've gone to halftime. I think was
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Speaker 4: twenty one to three or last I saw at least
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Speaker 4: after thirty five minutes for the Black Fans over Spain
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Speaker 4: in York, so a promising start that or I did
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Speaker 4: think the Spinion's played pretty well. To be honest, in
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Speaker 4: the first I wasn't quite expecting them to be as
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Speaker 4: as competitive as they were undersea.
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Speaker 2: You loving seeing Ruby Tooy commentating.
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Speaker 4: Hey, that's again, it's going to be an entertainment for
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Speaker 4: us all the way British masters. Yeah, this one that's
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Speaker 4: struck me this morning. There's been a terrific story for
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Speaker 4: Kazuma Kabori working as well into the European tour over
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Speaker 4: the course of the year, et cetera. But he's come
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Speaker 4: up with us a share of second this morning, and
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Speaker 4: I suppose more importantly for his bank bounce more than
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Speaker 4: half a million dollars, so five hundred and twenty three thousand.
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Speaker 4: Kazuma Kabori was in the Clubhouse lead at one stage,
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Speaker 4: but eventually pipped by a stroke by swede Alex Norrin.
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Speaker 2: What's happening with the US Open?
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Speaker 4: So starting today the singles at least we had the
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Speaker 4: mixed doubles earlier on just one notable result. So for
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Speaker 4: Emma Radakaru, twenty twenty one champion is through in straight sets.
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Speaker 2: Nice one, Andrew, good to see you as always too,
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Speaker 2: right Ryan to the Raby updates this morning Andrew Ortison
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Speaker 2: was sport. It is twenty three minutes after five here
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Speaker 2: on news talks. There'd be coming up. Well, just the
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Speaker 2: dog attacks. You're saying that you would have seen the
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Speaker 2: stories and I now know of quite a few people
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Speaker 2: who've had been the experience them, either the their dogs
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Speaker 2: or themselves or both, which is even worse. Across the
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Speaker 2: Tasman there's a big debate going on. It's the headline
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Speaker 2: I read at the weekend was quite funny. It was
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Speaker 2: like grandparents and parents turning and grandparents turning against parents,
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Speaker 2: I think was the headline. So the treasure over their charmers.
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Speaker 2: He wants to tackle into generational equality. You know, however,
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Speaker 2: government of the left wants to try and do this,
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Speaker 2: which is not exactly a bad thing potentially, but retirees
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Speaker 2: over there get concessions on their super balances, so they
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Speaker 2: get a lower rate of taxation on their superannuation balances.
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Speaker 2: And they are worried. That is the more wealthy baby
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Speaker 2: boomers are worried that charmers is coming to raid their
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Speaker 2: super funds. So what they are doing already have announced
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Speaker 2: is that they will double that tax take on super
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Speaker 2: balances if and it's only fifteen percent now, so we
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Speaker 2: go up to thirty percent. Will go sorry, we're double
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Speaker 2: from fifteen percent for balances of more than three million dollars.
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Speaker 2: So there's a big hohoha going on over there at
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Speaker 2: the moment, and it's come up at the productivity round
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Speaker 2: table and camera. I'll have one on that for you shortly.
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Speaker 2: It is twenty four after five the early.
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Speaker 2: News Talks THEB. It is twenty six minutes after five.
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Speaker 2: I have had it with vicious dogs and they're useless owners.
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Speaker 2: How many more children and pets will we tolerate being
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Speaker 2: maimed and punctured to death before this actually gets taken seriously?
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Speaker 2: Another one at the weekend woman had his scalp ripped off.
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Speaker 2: It's awful stuff. I've personally had three people in my
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Speaker 2: life and I'm just one person who've been out for
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Speaker 2: a walk with their wipups on a leash registered of course,
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Speaker 2: that'll cost you two hundred bucks, poop bags in hand,
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Speaker 2: doing all the right things, only to be attacked by
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Speaker 2: some absolutely vicious mongrel and I mean absolutely ripped to pieces,
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Speaker 2: punk wounds, Owners taken to the ground, blood everywhere, shock
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Speaker 2: hospital visits for the humans', expensive vet bills for the animals.
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Speaker 2: If they are lucky to survive, the road to recovery
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Speaker 2: is long, and poor old pup never really shakes. The
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Speaker 2: anxiety norders the owner. You've seen photos and the news
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Speaker 2: of kids' faces that look like they've been through the butchers.
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Speaker 2: It's gruesome, awful stuff, and those injuries are with them
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Speaker 2: for life. In Auckland alone, last year three thousand attacks
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Speaker 2: fifteen thousand roaming dogs reported. When doy else do you
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Speaker 2: call something a crisis? Then now council says they're cracking down,
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Speaker 2: clearly too slow, clearly not working. Dogs need to be
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Speaker 2: destroyed immediately. Owners need to be banned from owning. But
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Speaker 2: they're not. This is according to the victims. They say nap.
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Speaker 2: They're just treated like they're victims too. And here's something
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Speaker 2: that I thought was interesting and looking into this yesterday.
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Speaker 2: If a dog is attacking you, or you witness a
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Speaker 2: dog attacking another person or another dog, legally, you can
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Speaker 2: destroy the dog in that moment. It's legal. If your
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Speaker 2: actions will stop that attack from continuing, you do have
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Speaker 2: the right to seize or destroy the animal, which would
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Speaker 2: seem to be the safest. And when you look at
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Speaker 2: the outcomes and you look at the number, would be
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Speaker 2: a safer option if a dog is attacking a child,
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Speaker 2: wouldn't you say twenty eight minutes after five US talk?
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Speaker 2: There'd be nice to have your company on a Monday
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Speaker 2: morning the Pentagon. You know, we talked about this a
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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, how the US had given Ukraine
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Speaker 2: long range missiles and everyone was like, oh, that's fantastic.
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Speaker 2: You know, they will be able to strike deeper and
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Speaker 2: further into Russia. Well, it turns out this is according
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Speaker 2: to a Wall Street General report. Turns out that US
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Speaker 2: defense officials have blocked Ukraine from using them. They can
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Speaker 2: go up to three hundred k's inside Russia apparently has
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Speaker 2: blocked them from US because they want to get Pootin
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Speaker 2: around the table for talk. So they don't want Ukraine
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Speaker 2: firing too far into putin Land. Least you annoy him
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Speaker 2: and he doesn't come to the table. And there is
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Speaker 2: don't just hand these weapons over and say go for it.
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Speaker 2: It's all yours. There's sort of a chain of command.
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Speaker 2: They have to go upstairs and checks. So the Ukrainians
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Speaker 2: have to check with the Americans. Same with the British.
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Speaker 2: They have the same system. You have to check with them.
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Speaker 2: They look at the intelligence, they look at the aerial photographs,
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Speaker 2: they look at the targeting and then they say yeah
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Speaker 2: or nay. Thus far the US is saying nay. News
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Speaker 2: Talk said, be Gavin Gray out of the UK after.
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Speaker 1: News Views and Views you trust to start your day.
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Speaker 1: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and one roof love
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Speaker 1: where you live.
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Speaker 2: News Talk said, be more same, tell me thank good morning.
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Speaker 2: As prey far away from six on, news Talk said,
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Speaker 2: be Mark Mitchell is with US Police Minister before six o'clock.
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Speaker 2: Are our new bees up to scratch coming out of
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Speaker 2: police college? That's the question this morning after the more
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Speaker 2: senior officers. Well, they're not exactly raving about the new
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Speaker 2: bees coming out and the qualifications, the standards that have
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Speaker 2: been set. So we'll talk to him about that. Gavin
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Speaker 2: Gray's in the UK for us as well. It is
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Speaker 2: twenty four to six.
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Speaker 1: Bryan Bridge.
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Speaker 2: Jamie Cunningham with Danned News for us this morning. Jamie,
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Speaker 2: good morning, Good morning, Ryan. Tell us about Dunedin's local
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Speaker 2: alcohol policy. What's going on here?
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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, the City Council will meet tomorrow to decide
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Speaker 10: whether to presco on a revised consultation document, following concerns
18:43
Speaker 10: about last year's process. Now eighty five submissions were received
18:47
Speaker 10: on the draft policy, but health officials, police and community
18:51
Speaker 10: groups believe pre consultation was too limited. Now staff will
18:56
Speaker 10: update research and begin fresh stakeholder engagement, with public consultation
19:01
Speaker 10: set for next year, and the current policy in place
19:04
Speaker 10: since twenty nineteen will remain until a revised version is finalized.
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Speaker 2: How's your weather, Well, it's a.
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Speaker 10: Pretty good day here in Donedin, fine with light wines
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Speaker 10: and a high of fourteen.
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Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Jamie. Clear's and christ Church for
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Speaker 2: us this morning. Clear good morning, good morning. Now that
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Speaker 2: worries there about homelessness.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, constant worries about homelessness here. This is after the
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Speaker 11: city councilor extended the abatement notice deadline for the ten
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Speaker 11: people who have been living on in the car park
19:32
Speaker 11: of Avonside's Holy Trinity Church. They extended that about an
19:36
Speaker 11: hour before the group was set to be kicked off
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Speaker 11: the land on Friday. A decision regarding compliance with that
19:42
Speaker 11: notus is now expected later this week. The local city councilor,
19:45
Speaker 11: Jake McLellan says it's still not an ideal housing situation.
19:50
Speaker 11: He says the church car park is a band aid
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Speaker 11: over a problem stemming from the government tightening emergency housing
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Speaker 11: criteria and cutting funding, while fellow councilor Tyler Harrison Hunt
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Speaker 11: says it was a complex process for council staff who
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Speaker 11: were simply following the law. Party says an extension is
20:07
Speaker 11: still a win for the community.
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Speaker 2: Okay, how's your weather?
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Speaker 11: Very frosty and very foggy in christ Church today. That
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Speaker 11: low cloud will hang around and then clear this afternoon.
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Speaker 12: A high of twelve.
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Speaker 2: All right, take care Max and Wellington, Max, Good morning,
20:20
Speaker 2: Good morning, Loafer's Lodge fire. This is a newtown. The
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Speaker 2: trial starts today. Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 13: The trial of the man accused of murdering five people
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Speaker 13: in that hostel beginning today. This Newtown's Loafers Lodge, of course,
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Speaker 13: broke out into flames in May twenty twenty three, just
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Speaker 13: after midnight. The man accused of starting two fires at
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Speaker 13: the hostel, of one of which killed five people, another
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Speaker 13: of which did not fully develop. The trial was supposed
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Speaker 13: to happen last year, but was delayed by a year.
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Speaker 13: It is set to take five weeks now from today.
20:52
Speaker 13: The man has name suppression, but we also understand he
20:55
Speaker 13: may pursue a defensive insanity, so we should find that
20:59
Speaker 13: out today. And then you've also got a separate to this,
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Speaker 13: a group of people responsible who were responsible for the
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Speaker 13: maintenance and management of Loafer's Lodge. They're also charged with manslaughter,
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Speaker 13: but not due to go on trial for at least
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Speaker 13: another year.
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Speaker 2: Okay, now, two other news. How was Beervana?
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Speaker 13: You know, I go to be a banner every year
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Speaker 13: and to me it's a litmus test of how well
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Speaker 13: I can handle my alcohol. And the answer this year
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Speaker 13: is depressingly well, I probably drank a lot of a
21:30
Speaker 13: lot of alcohol and it turned out all right.
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Speaker 14: So that's what you thought, And what are the people
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Speaker 14: around you think? Well, when you feel like the sober one.
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Speaker 14: I feel like right, how's it we there?
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Speaker 9: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Fine?
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Speaker 13: Today in North Least fourteen the high central good one,
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Speaker 13: never good.
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Speaker 12: Morning, good morning.
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Speaker 2: Now we've got a reinvented New Zealand Fashion Week. I'm
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Speaker 2: being in Auckland today.
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Speaker 12: That's right. All the fashion lovers they're going to be
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Speaker 12: flocking to the waterfront today. That's the revival of New
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Speaker 12: Zealand Fashion Week. Obviously, the high flying designers like Karen Walker,
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Speaker 12: Kiddy Nathan, they're going to be returning to the runway,
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Speaker 12: showcasing collections to local and global audiences. We've also got
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Speaker 12: a lot of new emerging talent as well in the mix.
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Speaker 12: Liam Taylor now he's the board director, he's the fashion
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Speaker 12: landscape offers a blend of creativity and entrepreneurial spirit, you know,
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Speaker 12: because obviously Fashion Week has been you know, it took
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Speaker 12: a huge hit with COVID and it was postponed and
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Speaker 12: delayed and postponed and delayed again. So today in this
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Speaker 12: week should be I think there'll be a lot of
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Speaker 12: people turning out and they reckon too that the runway
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Speaker 12: is going to see a lot of world leading you
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Speaker 12: know this get up and go attitude that New Zealand
22:42
Speaker 12: has in a strong style, great eye for style.
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Speaker 4: I should say, yeah, do.
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Speaker 2: You think Mike Wild be down there?
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Speaker 12: Probably he'll be the front.
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Speaker 2: Row jeans and.
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Speaker 12: Too old for wearing ripped jeans now that.
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Speaker 2: I think he was too old twenty years ago.
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Speaker 12: Well, I'm I shouldn't throw them under the bus, because
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Speaker 12: one day about a year ago, I came in with
23:04
Speaker 12: ripped jeans on and he had ripped jeans on as well,
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Speaker 12: and I thought, oh my gosh, look at the aging
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Speaker 12: z b is What does that say about.
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Speaker 2: A new trend? I was saying to my partner of
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Speaker 2: the weekend, because he got a new pair of pants
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Speaker 2: on Saturday and they're not jeans, they just like corteruroid things.
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Speaker 12: But you must tell Mike he's got a poo poo that.
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Speaker 2: Oh really, I wore Corteroids to the movies yesterday because
23:26
Speaker 2: they're quite comfortable. Oh okay, you know the material is
23:29
Speaker 2: quite soft, yes, so if you if you're stretching out
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Speaker 2: with them on a plane or on them into the movies,
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Speaker 2: because it's quite quite a nice fabric. But anyway, he
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Speaker 2: bought a new pair of pants and they've all got
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Speaker 2: the flat sort of wide bottom lease. Yes, the skinny
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Speaker 2: jeans out the window, isn't it?
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Speaker 12: I like that the flid. Look what kind of shoes
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Speaker 12: did your partner have on?
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Speaker 2: He had white, sort of big chunky white ones.
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Speaker 12: Oh, it's quite trendy.
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Speaker 2: Like lesbians used to wear in the nineties. They probably
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Speaker 2: still do. How's the weather?
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Speaker 8: What sll is?
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Speaker 9: Sixteen?
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Speaker 12: I can't for read sixteens a high.
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Speaker 2: Have a great morning. They're good to see you and enjoy.
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Speaker 2: New Zealand Fashion Week kicks off at Awkan's Waterfront today.
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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell nets. Gavin Gray now our UK europe correspondent
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Speaker 2: and a big overhaul coming for asylum seeker appeals in
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Speaker 2: the UK.
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Speaker 15: Gavin, that's right, Ryan, Yes, and the government I think
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Speaker 15: really responding to this growing anger and unease on the
25:52
Speaker 15: streets about asylum seekers. And they're being housed in hotels
25:56
Speaker 15: with food and money and director links to doctors and
26:01
Speaker 15: so forth. And there have been some protests both that
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Speaker 15: yesterday's Saturday our time and today outside hotels that are
26:08
Speaker 15: being used to house migrants. And so the government has
26:11
Speaker 15: announced is to set up a new independent body staffed
26:14
Speaker 15: by independent adjudicators to hear cases more quickly. Now at
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Speaker 15: the moment, thirty two thousand asylum seekers are housed in hotels.
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Speaker 15: That's slightly down on what it has been and it
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Speaker 15: currently takes just over a year for an appeal to
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Speaker 15: be heard. There are fifty one thousand cases awaiting a decision,
26:33
Speaker 15: and that affecting something like about eighty five to ninety
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Speaker 15: thousand people, because sometimes a single case involves an entire family. Now,
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Speaker 15: during the time they are waiting this over a year,
26:44
Speaker 15: the average, they are often accommodated at the taxpayer's expense,
26:48
Speaker 15: and that is what people are getting. So I write
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Speaker 15: about the Conservatives, the previous administration said the government is
26:54
Speaker 15: in chaos. Reform UK that's Nigel Faraj's party which is
26:59
Speaker 15: riding high on the polls says there must be mass
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Speaker 15: deportation by those arriving by illegal or irregular routes. That
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Speaker 15: is the only way to stop it.
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Speaker 2: Devin, appreciate your time this morning. Devin Gray are UK
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Speaker 2: europe Correspondent, twelve minutes away from six. And by the
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Speaker 2: way I was hearing at the weekend, it's not just
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Speaker 2: you know, Nigel Farage is sort of making massive inroads.
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Speaker 2: He has overtaken the Conservatives and it's all to do
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Speaker 2: with migration and the asylum seekers that even in some
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Speaker 2: super safe labor seats they are flirting with Farage because
27:29
Speaker 2: they are so worried about it. Now twelve away, Bryan Bridge,
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Speaker 2: We've got trouble with new police recruits. A survey of
27:36
Speaker 2: senior officers released to The Herald says graduates are barely
27:39
Speaker 2: equipped to arrest or laid charges. Eighty three percent of
27:42
Speaker 2: respondents reckon that they can't even handle the paperwork properly.
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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell is Police Minister and joins me now, Minister,
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Speaker 2: good morning, take good warning. Ryan. Are we pumping out
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Speaker 2: half baked cops?
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Speaker 8: No?
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Speaker 9: I don't think we're definitely not pumping at half baked
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Speaker 9: police officers, but it's always been the case that they do. Obviously,
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Speaker 9: they do their twenty weeks. Now I return, I increase
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Speaker 9: the courses from sixteen weeks to twenty weeks as Zenoy Minister,
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Speaker 9: and then they have two years probationary where they get
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Speaker 9: to all the on the job supervision and training that
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Speaker 9: they need to become world class police officers. And we
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Speaker 9: have a world class police service, has no doubt about that.
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Speaker 9: It's good that the police are always testing themselves, that
28:24
Speaker 9: they're having honest conversations, that they're identifying where there needs
28:27
Speaker 9: to be improvement. My expectation is where they identify that
28:31
Speaker 9: then they make the changes.
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Speaker 2: Is fifty five percent of the senior officers feeling that
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Speaker 2: the new bees were barely or not at all well
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Speaker 2: equipped with knowledge of the procedures for making an arrest
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Speaker 2: and laying charges world class.
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Speaker 9: Well, you're talking about probationary constables. You're talking about constibles
28:51
Speaker 9: that are coming out on the job. See, your policing
28:54
Speaker 9: is a very unique job where you have to test,
28:56
Speaker 9: where you get tested, and a whole range of areas,
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Speaker 9: physically making decisions under pressure, all that sort of thing.
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Speaker 9: It's unrealistic to expect them to come out being experienced
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Speaker 9: police officers. They are rookies. They need strong supervision, they
29:08
Speaker 9: need guidance when they come out on the street. They're
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Speaker 9: probasary constables for two years, so they're still been tested
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Speaker 9: for another two years once they graduated from the college.
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Speaker 9: But the good thing is that is that they're identified
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Speaker 9: so that our senior field trainers who absolutely provide critical
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Speaker 9: feedback to the college. It's saying that there's some areas
29:27
Speaker 9: that need will focus my expectations, the police will recognize
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Speaker 9: that and I'll make the changes. When I was in opposition,
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Speaker 9: I was highlighting this and continually with the previous government
29:38
Speaker 9: not to drop standards, to maintain standards. As the income
29:42
Speaker 9: and government, we had a big focus on that. Yes
29:44
Speaker 9: we had a target set, but if I was solely
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Speaker 9: focused on the target, I wouldn't have increased the training
29:50
Speaker 9: course from sixteen weeks to twenty weeks.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, but you also minised to increase the wing
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Speaker 2: size from eighty to one hundred. You do have a
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Speaker 2: with New Zealand first, but it's not correct. That's not
30:03
Speaker 2: correct right. The wing sizes are not one hundred. Every
30:06
Speaker 2: wing size size it was like that, well, some of
30:08
Speaker 2: them are seventy. Some of them are less, some of
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Speaker 2: them are more. But so you didn't you didn't move
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Speaker 2: to increase the wing size.
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Speaker 9: We moved to increase the capacity of the college to
30:18
Speaker 9: be able to train fund so you saw, Yes, of
30:22
Speaker 9: course we funded it.
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Speaker 2: So the mass of funding, it's the problem here with
30:26
Speaker 2: the training or with the candidates that are getting in,
30:29
Speaker 2: because we know there's been problems there too. Well.
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Speaker 9: You know that there's been a big focus on standards
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Speaker 9: and quality of training by this government. You know that
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Speaker 9: we're not going to compromise. We've been very clear and
30:39
Speaker 9: said we're not going to compromise on the settings of targets.
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Speaker 9: We want to deliver five hundred aditional plus.
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Speaker 2: If a result of that, it's not a great outcome,
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Speaker 2: is it. I mean, yes, we want more cops, but
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Speaker 2: we want more good cops. Yeah.
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Speaker 9: Absolutely, And I just want to say again that come
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Speaker 9: along to a graduation meet. These police officers are some
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Speaker 9: of the best. We've got to put themselves forward for
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Speaker 9: service and difficult service.
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Speaker 2: Media senior officers saying this about them.
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Speaker 9: Then, because the places as an organization that tests it
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Speaker 9: souf hard. They realize that they have to maintain the
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Speaker 9: higher standards. That's exactly what the field officers are doing.
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Speaker 9: They're guiding them, they're training them, but they're making sure
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Speaker 9: they identify where.
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Speaker 8: We could be doing better.
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Speaker 9: In any organization should be looking for continual improvement. The
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Speaker 9: police is no different. In fact, it's critically important for
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Speaker 9: the police. Yes, as the Income Administer, I recognized the
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Speaker 9: fact that we needed to work on standards on trading.
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Speaker 9: That's why as the incoming minister, I supported moving our
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Speaker 9: recruit training course from sixteen weeks to twenty weeks. I
31:43
Speaker 9: increased that by four weeks. That wasn't going to help
31:45
Speaker 9: us deliver our five hundred, but I found it was
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Speaker 9: very important to do in terms of standards.
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Speaker 2: Mark wint Or, Police Minister. Time is eight minutes away
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Speaker 2: You Live news talks. That'd be it is five away
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Speaker 2: from six yr on news talks. There'd be Mike's in
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Speaker 2: the studio. He's here next of course, Mike, good morning,
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Speaker 2: good morning. Now you've got the Prime Minister on this morning.
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Speaker 2: Always what do you reckon? Do you just hold to
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Speaker 2: hold out. I spoke to Stephen Joyce about this the
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Speaker 2: other day. You know there's pressure. There's Simon Bridges saying
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Speaker 2: you go in and spend more and borrow and you
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Speaker 2: need cuts for Auckland. You just hold the line, do
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Speaker 2: you with your plan?
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Speaker 5: Well, of course you do, because the moment you start
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Speaker 5: up the specialist treatment, you set a precedent. And so
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Speaker 5: if Auckland needs help today, it will be christ Dutch
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Speaker 5: next week, and then it'll be Wellington. And if it
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Speaker 5: is Auckland, why didn't you do Wellington when we had
32:37
Speaker 5: the public service cuts and so on and so forth.
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Speaker 2: And then you undermine your whole argument of getting into
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Speaker 2: government in the first place, don't you. It's the point.
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Speaker 5: Although I note with interest, we're doing something on the
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Speaker 5: hotels this morning, and so I saw a story, very
32:48
Speaker 5: interesting story of the weekend. Now the problem is Auckland,
32:51
Speaker 5: for example, So the guy from Sedema was saying, we're desperate,
32:54
Speaker 5: we need more events and we've got all these assets
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Speaker 5: lying empty. But the problem with Auckland is who built
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Speaker 5: the hotels, wasn't the government? People buy bill hotels because
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Speaker 5: they're you know, bullish about the market and they want
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Speaker 5: to back themselves and invest in a building. So apparently
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Speaker 5: Auckland's got too many hotels, so who's faults that? Whereas
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Speaker 5: Queenstown doesn't have enough hotels space. So do you have
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Speaker 5: a centralized system whereby people go, look you need three there,
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Speaker 5: two down there and let's make it even or do
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Speaker 5: you let the market do what the market?
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Speaker 2: Do you let the market does precisely?
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Speaker 5: What I want to know more importantly, though, Ryan, is
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Speaker 5: if you saw the Prime Minister yesterday, what's his fascination
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Speaker 5: with Highber's best special gun boots and glasses. The guy
33:31
Speaker 5: had a spade and he was breaking ground.
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Speaker 2: He was digging.
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Speaker 5: It wasn't even digging a whole, he was breaking ground.
33:37
Speaker 5: And the guy had a high Ver's vest and gum
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Speaker 5: boots and safety glasses.
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Speaker 2: Why can't you be a little bit more like Winston
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Speaker 2: We you say no, I won't wear that.
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Speaker 5: Mate, I've got a spade. We're not drilling, you know
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Speaker 5: the center of the earth for oil because it's photo ops.
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Speaker 5: Isn't it that you have a photo op without safety glass?
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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell and jacket every time it rains, he's got
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Speaker 2: a Nima jacket.
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Speaker 5: I don't know anyway, you're right, the prim Miss Australian.
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Speaker 2: All Right, look forward to it. Mike is next, have
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Speaker 2: a fantastic Monday and I'll see you tomorrow.
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