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Doug Marrone Show: September 26 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football. Play by Well Blackman,
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  Speaker 1: that's the biggest play you could make. Quatfecta said col
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  Speaker 1: The Doug Moron Show, formber Jaguar, Jeff Loghman and J. P.
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  Speaker 1: Shadrick discussed the latest Jaguars new This with the head coach.
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  Speaker 1: The Doug Moron Show starts right now. Welcome in to
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  Speaker 1: The Doug Maron Show. J P. Shaddick, Jeff Lockman and
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  Speaker 1: head coach Doug Moreau. What's up, coach. I'm doing well.
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  Speaker 1: Are you doing there? I'm excited, Yeah, excited going on
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  Speaker 1: the road to challenge for us. We had a good
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  Speaker 1: week practice. Um looking forward to it. Does the uh
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  Speaker 1: because a lot of people out there are wondering this
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  Speaker 1: is the Jail and Ramsey situation. Is it a distraction
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  Speaker 1: or is it something that a football team and as
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  Speaker 1: a coaching staff that you just you just kind of
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  Speaker 1: compartmentalize it and then move on. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: people deal with things, you know, in a different way,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't you know, it's you know, when you're
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  Speaker 1: a coach, it's easy to go out there and say, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: everyone's you know, uh focus and what's going on. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's what you know, that's what it seemed like.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, I don't I don't know for sure,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, one of the things about this league
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  Speaker 1: and you know this haven't played and you know, people
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  Speaker 1: ask me that's the question that you brought up all
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  Speaker 1: the time. And I think, as long as you know
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  Speaker 1: what your job is and what your responsibility is and
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  Speaker 1: you're focused on it and you understand that, um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: winning is what we're gonna try to do. That you
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  Speaker 1: know that that that's that's what're seeing everyone is. You know.
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  Speaker 1: I think when people you don't have time, they might
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  Speaker 1: you know, think about other things. But I can't. I
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  Speaker 1: can't control that. I can only control when we're in
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  Speaker 1: the classroom, we're on the field, and like I said,
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  Speaker 1: we've had a good week of practice and I'm excited to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for this challenge. That's one media outside the building.
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  Speaker 1: The other media is Minshoe Madia with just still on
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  Speaker 1: going outside of here. How is I just don't think
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  Speaker 1: that that one. I can tell you, we don't know
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  Speaker 1: anything about that one's outside of your We don't really
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  Speaker 1: you know, when you're when you're locked in a building,
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  Speaker 1: especially us as coaches, I mean we're we're kind of
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  Speaker 1: locked in. I mean we don't really know UM, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of what. You don't even know current events, right know.
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  Speaker 1: I you know, I'll try to on the on the
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  Speaker 1: weekend just to kill time, you know, read and and
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  Speaker 1: but I stay away from sports. I don't. I don't
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  Speaker 1: read anything about sports or anything about that unless the
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  Speaker 1: Yankees are on right sometimes. Yeah, I mean I follow them,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm a fan, so I I follow them. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about just in general. You know, in our sport,
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  Speaker 1: you know what's going on on other teams and things
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  Speaker 1: like that. The only thing we focus on is is
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  Speaker 1: obviously the news from Denver. You know, who's the injuries
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  Speaker 1: and who potentially gonna play and you know, in their place,
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  Speaker 1: and try to get a feel for that. So uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we can help our players identify, um and
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  Speaker 1: then maybe go back and look because obviously they've had
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  Speaker 1: some injuries and you know, potentially some players might be
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  Speaker 1: playing in in place of them. Do uh did you
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  Speaker 1: ever play a game in Denver? Yeah? Could you? Could
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  Speaker 1: you tell? Like I could that the first time you
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  Speaker 1: were there, You're like, this is different, just the altitude. No,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, I didn't. I didn't have the
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  Speaker 1: motor that you had, so I'd never really guessed myself.
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  Speaker 1: You know, uh not not you know, not really I mean,
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  Speaker 1: um not not not not not at the stadium. I
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  Speaker 1: and I think, you know, we're in Miami and we
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  Speaker 1: went out there and played. No one was really no
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  Speaker 1: one really talked about it or anything, you know, coach
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  Speaker 1: Ula said, Hey, we're gonna go out there and run
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  Speaker 1: as soon as we land. I think people more piste
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  Speaker 1: off about that than they were about what was the
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  Speaker 1: purpose of that. I have no idea. I have no idea. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: we gotta get used to the altitude, and we gotta
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  Speaker 1: get used to you know. So let's let's get you
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  Speaker 1: out there. Let's get your run in so you can
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  Speaker 1: feel it. You know how hard it's gonna breathe and
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff. And you know, we ran, but should
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  Speaker 1: We were breathing just as much as we would be
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  Speaker 1: if we were in Miami running. And you know, at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day, everyone was like, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't know whether people said afterwards, hey, we feel fine.
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  Speaker 1: So if we ever went back to Denver. We wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: run again. I don't. I don't know, but it didn't
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  Speaker 1: seem to effect. We did that one time, and I
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  Speaker 1: want to say it was Oakland or something like that,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, the long airline trip and then you
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  Speaker 1: get there, Okay, yeah, we're gonna go to practice, but
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna get a little bit of running in to
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  Speaker 1: help kind of break out the jet lag or whatever
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  Speaker 1: the lack that gas or whatever it is. And it
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  Speaker 1: didn't work. Did we did that when we went to
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  Speaker 1: We went to play preseason in Japan when I was
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  Speaker 1: with the Jets. I'll never forget. We go through this
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  Speaker 1: long ride and they're like, everyone needs to do it,
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  Speaker 1: you know. They were like, coach. I'm like, coaches, what
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  Speaker 1: are you crazy? I'm gonna get out there to run.
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  Speaker 1: But Herm had us all out there. We're all out
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  Speaker 1: there and running and um. As soon as we landed,
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  Speaker 1: we went right to some area in to some big
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  Speaker 1: field and and started running. And it was like a
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  Speaker 1: twenty something hour trip, you know, to go to Japan.
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  Speaker 1: That was crazy. But that that that I really feel.
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  Speaker 1: I'll still say to day that that heard our football
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  Speaker 1: team for the whole year. I don't think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: both ourselves and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who we played,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think either team really recovered, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying from from that trip. That was tough. That
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  Speaker 1: and the beds are small, the short you know, I
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  Speaker 1: can't remember. I don't even want to remember, be honest
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  Speaker 1: with you. I just remember I was going out, taking
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  Speaker 1: a walk out to go to the bathroom, and I
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  Speaker 1: walked in the door and there with a hole in
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  Speaker 1: the floor. I'm like, my knees hurt. No, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to hold it in. That's quite a memory of
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  Speaker 1: you remember things like that. How could you forget exactly?
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  Speaker 1: But this is a football team going into Denver this week.
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  Speaker 1: You guys still have I mean, after the win last week,
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  Speaker 1: you walk around that locker room, there's there's something to
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  Speaker 1: this team still, right, They still have the It's not like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's a tough trip and all that. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like they can go out there and play very well.
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  Speaker 1: And when this there's some there's some confidence in that
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  Speaker 1: locker room. It seems like to me at least week thing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's early in the season. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anything's going to really define you know,
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  Speaker 1: any team or really what's going on right now. And
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  Speaker 1: I think you know, you know, we've been through, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a tough deal. I think anytime you go in there
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  Speaker 1: in the first game and h one, you don't play
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  Speaker 1: as well as you want to, and then too you
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  Speaker 1: lose your starting quarterback and then you know, obviously Gardener
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  Speaker 1: comes up there. There's a lot of adversity. You know,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's hit this team early on. Um, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: Gardeners come up there and he's he's done a nice job.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's that's important. I think the players think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, no, and I've always believed this that you know,
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  Speaker 1: they feel that they have a chance. And I think
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  Speaker 1: as long as you feel you have a chance, and um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, everybody's excited and they want to go out
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  Speaker 1: there and play. And I think it's difficult when and
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  Speaker 1: and Jeff can probably speak on this, and when you
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  Speaker 1: look around and you go through all these injuries and
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  Speaker 1: you're like, oh, you know, we've you know, hopefully we
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  Speaker 1: can do this or maybe we'll get lucky or you know,
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  Speaker 1: things of that nature. And you know, once you start
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  Speaker 1: losing that type of confidence. That's why I think you
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  Speaker 1: see teams, you know, spiral down. But you know, this
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  Speaker 1: team has a lot of you know, um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: faith in each other and a lot of belief in
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  Speaker 1: each other. Um. We've been talking about it, you know
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  Speaker 1: for a long time now, and um you feel like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they have a chance to go out there
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  Speaker 1: and and perform well and have the opportunity to win
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  Speaker 1: a game. Well, I think what you what you talk
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  Speaker 1: about about, you believe you've got a chance because a
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  Speaker 1: lot of times when the backup comes in, you don't
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  Speaker 1: have that belief. And I think part of the reason
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  Speaker 1: that your football team has a belief. And I haven't
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  Speaker 1: heard many people talk about this, but I've been saying
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  Speaker 1: that your coaches. Because it's not about all about Minshew.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's got to have good coaching. And so
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  Speaker 1: the job that's Gott Milanovich, the quarterbacks coach, the job
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  Speaker 1: that John d. Filippo, the offensive coordinator, have done with
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  Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew, I mean credit to them too, because I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is a rookie that's was asked to be the
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  Speaker 1: starter in week two and had to play in week one,
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  Speaker 1: and he gives you the belief that you've got a chance. Yeah, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, absolutely, And I think you know, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of other you know, storylines that that are going
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  Speaker 1: on around the offense that you know, you know, maybe
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  Speaker 1: people are missing you know a little bit, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't Every time I say that, everyone's always like, well,
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  Speaker 1: tell us what we're missing. I'm not trying to attack
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  Speaker 1: anyone or you know that there. But you know, at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, for me, it's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit different because I have you know that
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  Speaker 1: that ten thousand foot view where I can see you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying everything that's going on, it's you know d
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  Speaker 1: J Chark, you know, I mean, how how well he's
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  Speaker 1: playing for us right now has really helped us. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I think we're getting a lot from the tight end position.
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  Speaker 1: You know, all those guys are contributing, even though it
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  Speaker 1: might not show up heavily on the stat sheet, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, that was something that we were concerned about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, going in on on the performance at that position,
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  Speaker 1: and Coach Middleton and those guys that they've really done
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  Speaker 1: a nice job. And I think, you know, the the
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  Speaker 1: guy that that really has had unbelievable matchups, and he's
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  Speaker 1: got a big matchup this week is Joan Taylor. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know he's played against you know, J J. Watt,
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  Speaker 1: He's played against um, you know, the first week in
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City, he's you know, last week he played against
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  Speaker 1: Cameron Wake and this week he's gonna against going against
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  Speaker 1: bon Miller. I mean, you know, that's a that's a
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  Speaker 1: pretty tough tough deal. You know, the as a rookie
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  Speaker 1: coming out and um, you know, the second round pick
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  Speaker 1: and you know, out of Florida and then all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden you go in there and that's you know,
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  Speaker 1: you you talk about J. J. Watt and Bon Miller. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's that's that's that's you're talking about defensive
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  Speaker 1: players a year and you know, and and he's been
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  Speaker 1: performing well, he really has. And um, I think he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a very good football player. And you know
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  Speaker 1: he we need him to perform well this week. Make
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  Speaker 1: no mistake about him and Cam both because those two
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  Speaker 1: guys can take over a game. When's the last time
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  Speaker 1: that you remember seeing a rookie tackle come in and
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  Speaker 1: and have the physical ability of a Jiwan Taylor right
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  Speaker 1: out of the gate. Yeah, I mean, I think you
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  Speaker 1: go back to you know, you know guys like you know,
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  Speaker 1: Tony and Jonathan Ogden and you O and and and
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  Speaker 1: Pace and I mean you can you know Howard. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of players that have done it,
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  Speaker 1: but they've all they're all top five pit type players
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  Speaker 1: that you know physically when they walk in the door door,
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  Speaker 1: everyone's like whoa you know, um, you know, it reminds
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  Speaker 1: me one of the greatest stories ever was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I was coaching, uh where I was out at the
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  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl when I was with New York. So we're
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  Speaker 1: at the Pro Bowl and my wife and I pull
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  Speaker 1: up and and we're going into the hotel, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: the first two people are coming out are Jonathan Ogden
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  Speaker 1: and and Orlando Pace. And I'll never forget. My wife's like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, who are those guys. I'm like, Jonathan Ogden,
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  Speaker 1: Orlando Pace, those those are left tackles. She's like, Wow,
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  Speaker 1: those guys are big. Then we come out and then
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  Speaker 1: you know, the guy from Philadelphia is another guy got
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  Speaker 1: from Florida State. You know, he's another six seven, six eight.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, who is that? What position? I'm like, left tackle?
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  Speaker 1: You know, and then I'm playing to a guy that
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  Speaker 1: that's just scrappy as hell. Jason Beanie, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. He was our start in left tackle, but
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  Speaker 1: he looked nowhere near, you know. And then we're we're
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  Speaker 1: actually now then we're taking a walk like three days later,
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  Speaker 1: and here's another one of them, you know, Walter Jones
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  Speaker 1: or somebody out there, and she goes, don't tell me
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  Speaker 1: that's a left tackle. I go, you got it. That's
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  Speaker 1: what they look like. You know, that's what the great
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  Speaker 1: ones look like. But you know, I I think I
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  Speaker 1: think it's hard. I mean, you know, he's he's the
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  Speaker 1: same way like people talk about you know, Gardner demeanor
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  Speaker 1: and and how you know he is on the field.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I could say the same thing about Juan.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's you know, you know the other day
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  Speaker 1: I was asking questions like, well, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: JJ said, I'm like, j J, God, you're on the
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  Speaker 1: first name basis now with these guys you're playing against,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, when you're a rookie, they're like, you know, hey,
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  Speaker 1: rook when eat you eat your lunch? You know, I
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  Speaker 1: mean that's how the veteran guys are, and I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I guess what are your first name basis with these
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  Speaker 1: guys after you're playing. But I but I think that's
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  Speaker 1: the type of mentality that he has, you know, which
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  Speaker 1: is it's not too big for him. And a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people say, well, he played a Florida, they played
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  Speaker 1: in the SEC. I say, time out, Now, okay, this
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  Speaker 1: is a whole different ballgame. Now. When you come to
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, you know, it's like you take the best
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  Speaker 1: player you played against and in the three or four
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  Speaker 1: years that you played you know, in college, and you're
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  Speaker 1: playing against that player you know, plus ten you know
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  Speaker 1: right now. Welcome back to the Doug Moron Show, j P. Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lagamin and the head coach, Doug Moron. Because you
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: mentioned in the last segment you touched on a little
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: bit of the adversity. This team has gone through the
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: quarterback injury early, the Ramsey stuff going on, everything that's
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: happened around the team this year, right, How does this
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: as a head coach, how do you how do you
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  Speaker 1: kind of rally everything together? And how does this compare
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: to maybe some adverse situations in your past as a
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: head coach. Yeah, I mean been through you know, been
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: through a lot. I mean you go through a lot
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: of these situations and you you you concentrate on what
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: you can't control them, and you try to control it.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: I think you you know the things you can't control,
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: the injuries are you know, you know, whatever it may be,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: you just you just gotta let it go. You know,
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: you gotta let it go, and you gotta keep your focus.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: So I think it's you know, every year is a challenge. Um.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: You know, I think you go into it and you
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: you feel like you're prepared and you know something always
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: comes up that's that's just different and um and and
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: then you just deal with it. And I think that's
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: what that's what that's part of the job. I mean
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: that part of you know, what what you do as
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: a coach. I mean you have to you know, you
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: have to adjust, and you know we're professionals, and that's
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: and I always say that's the difference because I think
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: anyone can go out and study a book or study
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: a you know, a playbook or be able to game
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: plan and you know, get in there and do power
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: points and you know, show the players what they should
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: be doing and go on the field. But you know,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: if that's the case, then you know there's a lot
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: of people that can can do what we do. I
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: think the differences is being able to you know, relate
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: to the players, you know, talk with them, uh, motivate
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: them and deal with these types of adverse situations with
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: a level head, and and show the show of good leadership.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: I think that's that's really the key. I think you
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: know a lot of times and times of adversity and
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: and and it doesn't matter whether it's here anywhere. I
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: mean you can look at history and you know, people
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: are just looking for someone, you know that's gonna lead
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: them and get them out of it. And um you know, um,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I I like I enjoy those types of challenges. Um
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: you know, I think I think I'm at worst when
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: everything's going well. To be honest with youth's too normal
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: round here. Yeah, if like, all right, I gotta cause
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: some adversity now, let's go. Well, one of the aspects
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: have to worry about that here, But one of the
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: aspects of coaching is just as identifying what you're not
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: doing well to get certain areas to improve. I don't know,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: you talked at length this week about getting the running
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: game going and getting the offensive line going, because if
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: you can find a way to do that, I mean,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: it certainly makes it a lot easier on a rookie quarterback,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: and and especially this week, because you've got Von Miller
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: and and Bradley Chubb on the other side of the ball,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: and if all of a sudden, your offense is looking
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: at third and seven plus, third and six plus all
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: the time, and because you're not having success on first
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: and second down, run the football. That makes it extremely
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: tough against the defense. I don't care that they don't
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: have a sack because those as two football players are
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, I agree with you. I feel the
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: same way. You know, people say, well they don't have
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: a set I watched the tape. They're still winning. They
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: just you know, those sacks. At the end of the year,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: they'll have their sacks. And I just hope, like I said,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I hope it's you know, not game changing plays or
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: sacks you know, versus us and it's gonna be a
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: great challenge for us to you know, to keep that
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: um you know going. And we've done a good job,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: you know. The one thing about like you said before,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: you know, I want to make sure everyone understands we've
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: done a good job in our past protection. We really have,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: um you know, those guys have taken a lot of pride.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: You know. We have to do a better job in
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: the run game. And I think that you know a
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: lot of times when that when I said, the first
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: thing everyone thinks about is whole line, you know, and
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: and and and there's there's truth to that. But I
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: think you know, for us as coaches, we've got to
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: do a better job, you know, I mean putting them
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: in good situations and angles and things of that nature.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Tight Ends are evolved, you know, Receivers are involved, everyone's
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: really involved. Quarterbacks and a king, you know. And then
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: you know, how do you want to do it? I
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: mean there's a lot of different ways. You can go
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: ahead and try to say, okay, listen, I'm gonna be
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: stubborn and go out there and pound it. You know,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: you can go out there and you can try to
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: throw and loosen them up. You know, it's different, you know,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: ways strategically, you know, to be able to open those
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: things up for us. But you know, we Gardener gives
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: us an opportunity because a lot of times when like
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: you know, Jeff was saying before, if you have a
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, they're gonna say, hey, we're gonna load the box,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: force quarterback the beach and you know not not get
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: beat with the running game. But I think you know,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Gardener has shown and our receivers have done a good
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: job and being able to get open you know. But
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: the thing about the running game is again it will
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: relieve some of the you know, the pressure if there
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: is any pressure on that kid um And but more importantly,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: it sets things up. You know, it sets a big
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: place that that that's really where you know for me
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: that I get it. You know, the play action game
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: is you can get some big chunks, and in order
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: to score points in this league, you know, you need
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: those types of play, those big chunk plays, and you
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: have a better opportunity to get in the passing game.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Then obviously you're doing a running game, and you know
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: we're gonna try to do the best job we can.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: I think that you know, you know, Cam will be
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: playing more. You know he's coming back that that he
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: helps us. Uh, you know he's got a little bit
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: you know something to him when he's in there. Um,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: you know, getting the guys going, got a lot of energy.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be helpful for us. Um. You know,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I believe that, you know, being able to play as
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: a cohesive unit's gonna help. You know, those guys have
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: been practicing together more. I don't want to ever you know,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: overlook that part, part of the continuity part of it.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: And um, you know, and do a better job technically,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I mean, you know, with
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the hands in front and and be able to move people.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I think that you know, we've played good defenses, but
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: you're gonna see good defenses in the NFL each week. Um,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: so we've got to give ourselves an opportunity and see
• 20:49
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  Speaker 1: Mile High is the name of the stadium. Now they've
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: just changed it fairly recently. Jaguars defense, huge game last week,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: of course, nine sacks and you know, no matter what
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: happens in the secondary, we can put that aside. Now.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: The pass rush helps everything. If those guys are getting
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: home like they did last week, coach, it makes everything
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: on defense really work. Well. Yeah, I think that anytime
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: time in this league that you can make someone one dimensional,
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  Speaker 1: you know, whether it be your opponent, um, you know
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  Speaker 1: you or you know, and hopefully not yourself, but you
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  Speaker 1: gain an advantage, you know, when those guys know that
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  Speaker 1: you have to throw the football and they're able to
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  Speaker 1: you know, tee off. But I do think it's it's
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  Speaker 1: hand in hand. I think that, you know, the coverage
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  Speaker 1: aspect of it, you know, kind of gets overlooked when
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: you have a lot of sacks. Um same way where
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know, the interceptions get overlooked when
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: you're putting a lot of pressure on the quarterback and
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: he's running around. So you know, when I look at things,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I look at it. You know, they work with each other,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: you know, to be able to cover, you know, and
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: just to have that quarterback hold that ball for just
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  Speaker 1: that moment. You know, just that little extra second, you know,
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  Speaker 1: really freeze some things up. And I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Jeff can speak. You play these quarterbacks and they're they're
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: timing when when that backboat hits they're throwing the football.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: It's hard to get sacks, you know, and then they're
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: throwing the football and it's open. So you know, you
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: gotta work extremely hard to do it. Um. You know,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I think that's saying that you learn when you're in
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: high school. Earned the right to pass, you know, to
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: rush the quarter back means you gotta do a good
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: job against the run. I think we're gonna be challenged
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: this week. I think Lindsay's probably uh, you know back
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: that you know a lot of people probably on the
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: East Coast don't know about, you know, because they're in
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: the a f C. West, But you know, he's an
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: outstanding back. Um can really do a lot of things,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: and you know it's gonna be a challenged to stop
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: him and put them in those situations where we have
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: the ability to rush the quarterback. Well, you talk about
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: earning the right to pass rush and then to go
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: back to the Thursday night game, Derrick Henry had I
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: think about two point six yards to carry. That's how
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: you earn the right to pass rush, just by stopping
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: the running game. You guys were certainly able to do that.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: And Calais and company ended up having a marvelous game.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I mean it was and Cark Calais led the lead.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, he he led the way. I mean, he's
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: such a marvelous player, and I I mean I feel
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: fortunate to be able to watch him because he's that
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: good of a player and there's things that he does
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Doug still every week that I go, wow, how did
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: he do at? Yeah, it's it's interesting. What was funny
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: as Um after the game on Thursday? Um, you know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I was in the locker room when I was just
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: gonna stay, you know, because it's so late you just
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: might as well stay and watch it. So I'm sitting
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: there and I get done late. Obviously, we do the radio,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the postgame press conference, injury report, Um, you know, a
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: couple of phone calls, um, you know, in the locker room,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: and then I'm just sitting there, so shower, get changed
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: and really put the TV on, you know, because I'm
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: still wired from the game. And it was like, I mean,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: it was late and I'm like, well, let me go,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: you know, go ahead and go over to the So
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I was gonna walk out. There comes Colais. I'm like,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: what are you doing? You know, he's taking care of
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: himself right after the game, and I think, you know
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: that's important. It'll be interesting because you know, he hasn't
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: said anything, but you know for him that he's going home.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: You know, that's where he's from in Denver, so he's
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of people at this game. So
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see, you know, if there's
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a change in him. You know, um,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: you know, he's such a great professional and a change
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: in a good way meaning that hey, there's gonna be
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: a little bit more. I hope there is, you know,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: but you know, I think you know, he's excited to
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: go back home see family, and he's excited to play
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: in front of him Denver South High schools, where he's
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: from same high school as Philip Lindsay believe or not,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: but uh, I mean what Clais has been able to
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: do in the Jacksonville community. I know that the CRC
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Foundation that he's doing eighteen thousand dollars going into our
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: community for charities, and then it was just announced that
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: he's giving twenty thousand dollars. I think it was to
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: some of the charities in Denver. I mean, he's an
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: impressive player, but he's he's just as as an oppressive person.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: And I think he's a great role model for a
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: lot of young players, including uh Josh Allen, who is
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: right there with him, and boy as a coach, you
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: gotta sit there and watch a young player follow a
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: guy like Clais Campbell go. That's what you like to
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: see a young player do. There's no doubt about it.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you look at you know, these
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: when you look at organizations with the it doesn't matter
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: what sport, and it's you know, they talk about you know,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: you know, dynasties let's say, you know, and one of
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the things that they're able to keep it going. Um.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: It was interesting. I had a long conversation um with
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: you know, with the Yankees leadership, you know and um,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: and they were talking about it, like, you know, they
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: have such a good mixture of players that you know,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: they come in and and the you know a lot
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: of these players who were coming in when it was
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: you know, Mariano was still there, and and Jeta was
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: still there, and you know, all these players and before
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: them that was Willie Randolph and Don Mantely and they
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: come in and and and because you may think you know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: but you really don't know what you're supposed to do
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: or how you're supposed to be until you get into
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: that locker room and you're looking for that. I don't
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: want to say, you know, role model or someone just
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: to say, hey, listen, this guy has been successful. Let
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: me see what he does and let me try to
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: do you know, follow him. So you know, the more
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: players you have that are like that, then the better
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: opportunities for these young players to come in and see
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: what you have to do, and for a coach that helps,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: you know, tremendously. It really does. I mean, you know,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: it's it's one thing that you know, if a coach
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: is saying, hey do this, do this, do this, you know, granted,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: the player is gonna listen and take take take it in,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: but you know it's I think it's more meaningful when
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: it comes from a form of player that's doing it
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: and been successful. Alright, coach, final thought about this game
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: coming up Sunday in Denver, Good opportunity for your team
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: to go out west and get a win on the road. Yeah,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I think you know, you know, it's gonna be a
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: great challenge. I think that you know, Denver is a
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: very talented football team. I don't think that you know,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: they really like where they are right now, you know.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I mean obviously you know they haven't won a game.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: They played some close games, um, you know, so that
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: we're gonna get the best that they have. And there's
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of energy in that stadium. Haven't
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: played there before. It's a tough place to play, um,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: you know, but we've been on road, We've played, you know,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: in some tough places. I think it's gonna be a
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: great test for us. Like I said, we've had a
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: good week of practice, so I'm excited to go out
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: there and it's gonna be a great challenge. Good luck
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: to you, great appreciate your time. Thank you. I'm gonna
• 30:12
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  Speaker 1: bad thing, No, No, no, No, it's good. Let's uh
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  Speaker 1: you over this Jalen Ramsey news cycle yet? I'm tired
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  Speaker 1: of it? Um, it's a little bit. I mean, Jeff
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  Speaker 1: come out great there. The timing of everything together though,
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  Speaker 1: it's just it's very it's very curious. Yeah, it's just odd,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And I'm not saying I'm not saying that
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• 37:19
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• 37:31
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• 37:33
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• 37:36
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• 37:42
  Speaker 1: how weird would that be? Though? Pretty weird right now? Yeah,
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• 37:54
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  Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logerman, Tony Masselli is in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 1: Tony Minshu mania continues. How long does this last? How
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  Speaker 1: how long can we expect Gardner to not look like
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  Speaker 1: a sixth round rookie? Um, that's a good question. I
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  Speaker 1: don't expect him to look like a rookie anymore. I
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  Speaker 1: mean he's done. With three straight games, he's shown that
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  Speaker 1: he is the composure. He makes good decisions. He has
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  Speaker 1: yet to throw on a ball where you're like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my gosh, why do you throw that it's gonna be picked.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the only ball with the obviously interception that
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  Speaker 1: bounced off Leonard for net face mats he could have
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  Speaker 1: thrown with maybe a little bit more touch um. But
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  Speaker 1: as far as decision making, you know, he's been unreal.
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  Speaker 1: Now he's gonna make bad decisions and at some point
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  Speaker 1: every quarterback does, and he's gonna do something where he
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  Speaker 1: turns the ball over. But that won't change my feelings
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  Speaker 1: that he is playing at a remarkable level. And to
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  Speaker 1: Jeff's point, he's doing without the run game. I'd be
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  Speaker 1: really interested to see if they get the run game going.
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  Speaker 1: To get Leonard four nett going, I think they need
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  Speaker 1: to play rock Armstead as well to try to change
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  Speaker 1: the pace and see if he can get something going.
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  Speaker 1: If they get anything on the ground and open up
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  Speaker 1: the play ash and pass and make it take the
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  Speaker 1: pressure off the passing game a little bit. I think
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna play better. I think it's remarkable that this
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  Speaker 1: guy went all the way down in the sixth round,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, I'm glad he did because we're fortunate we
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  Speaker 1: got him, and you feel like you have a chance
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  Speaker 1: until Nick Foles gets back to win every one of
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  Speaker 1: the next six games. He's been playing, playing really well.
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  Speaker 1: And there's two plays Tony that that I'm gonna show
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  Speaker 1: tonight on film, and they were opportunities that I thought
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  Speaker 1: were exceptional that he took advantage of. One of them,
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  Speaker 1: he actually moves the safety, holds the safety who was
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  Speaker 1: a free safety and cover one and holds him in
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  Speaker 1: the middle because he looks the opposite way before he
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  Speaker 1: throws the touchdown the d J h R. He just
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  Speaker 1: don't see a young quarterback doing that. And you credit
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  Speaker 1: two people or three people. One you credit Minshew himself,
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  Speaker 1: but then you also credit the coaching that he's getting
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  Speaker 1: from John d. Filippo and and also the quarterbacks coach
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  Speaker 1: Scott Milanovich. And uh, but but you just that stuff
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  Speaker 1: you don't see from a rookie. I mean, most rookies
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  Speaker 1: are staring guys down or are one read and then
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  Speaker 1: take off for one read and then all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden panic and then maybe find something on the run.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, he's he's doing a pretty good job.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that it can't be can't be understated,
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  Speaker 1: and I also don't want to overstate it either, and
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  Speaker 1: that he's been good. He's not Patrick Mahomes, but nobody is.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody's ever been Patrick Mahomes. But I'd like to see
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  Speaker 1: the offense find another level and I think that he
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  Speaker 1: can get him there if he continues to play, and
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  Speaker 1: if he gets a running game that's better than what
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  Speaker 1: he's had quick and imagine if DD plays better, right
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  Speaker 1: he played better last week, or if DD plays overall
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  Speaker 1: the numbers are unreal, d D he catches those balls.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he has a huge week as far as mintshew,
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  Speaker 1: And how about I mean not only menas you, but
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  Speaker 1: around the league, A record twenty quarterbacks under age seven
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  Speaker 1: started in Week three. You think, so, yeah, it has
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  Speaker 1: to be right. I mean, it's not just Gardner, it's
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  Speaker 1: everywhere else. Tony, Oh, it's great because I mean you
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  Speaker 1: look at the I think there's always been a little
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  Speaker 1: bit concerned what happens when Brady and Breese and Roethlisberger
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  Speaker 1: and Rodgers isn't quite as old as those guys. You
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  Speaker 1: know what happens, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, that whole cool
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  Speaker 1: you know kind of crew of quarterbacks that really has
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  Speaker 1: carried the NFL. And it's not such a great job.
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  Speaker 1: You can throw Cam Newton in there, you know, getting
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  Speaker 1: beat up. I mean he's getting up there in age.
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  Speaker 1: What happens? Who are the next group of guys to
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  Speaker 1: come take the reins? And you know Patrick Mahomes leads
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  Speaker 1: that list um, But there's a lot of good young
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks out there. Lamar Jackson I think is made huge strides,
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  Speaker 1: is playing really at a high level. Of Baker Mayfield
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  Speaker 1: not having a great start, but you know everyone saw
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  Speaker 1: what he could do last year. And you go down
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  Speaker 1: the list um of young quarterbacks playing well. Uh, and
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  Speaker 1: that's good for the NFL. Let's come back. We'll preview
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  Speaker 1: But Aaron Rodgers hasn't quite been Aaron Rodgers yet. It's
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  Speaker 1: coming though, right, Well you think so. But he's over
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  Speaker 1: two thirty five yards against the Broncos last week and
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  Speaker 1: that was his high watermark of the year. Um, the
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  Speaker 1: run game is not that good and if you look
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  Speaker 1: wants to do. He's up the mindset of Sean McVeigh,
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  Speaker 1: and they matched the run game to the past game,
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  Speaker 1: and so when the run game is not going, it
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  Speaker 1: makes that play afs have passed not very effective, and
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  Speaker 1: so that's one of the problems. Defensively, they're playing opportunistic
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  Speaker 1: right now. They're raided really high, only giving up eleven
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  Speaker 1: and a half points or so a game. But you
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  Speaker 1: those you look at the stats and you look at
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  Speaker 1: the numbers like hun interesting, it must be really good.
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  Speaker 1: But the one stat that concerns you is the run defense.
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  Speaker 1: They gave up a hundred nineties something to Minnesota, they
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  Speaker 1: gave up one fifty last week to Denver, and they
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  Speaker 1: get pushed around a little bit up front. And that
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  Speaker 1: because yes, they're playing good past defense, but they haven't
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  Speaker 1: played a quarterback really yet this year. And yes they're
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  Speaker 1: getting turnovers, but we all know how those go. They
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  Speaker 1: can come a bunch and they also disappear um and
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  Speaker 1: so my view. My view always is if you're not
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  Speaker 1: playing good, if you want to be a really good defense,
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  Speaker 1: you have to stop the run. And the Packers aren't
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  Speaker 1: doing that right now. Interesting you bring up that number
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  Speaker 1: that they gave up one fifty to the Denver Broncos.
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  Speaker 1: So they gave up one fifty to the Denver Broncos,
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  Speaker 1: and Denver Broncos couldn't score hardly any points. I don't
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  Speaker 1: to show you how how poorly I think Joe Flacco
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  Speaker 1: is playing all right? Final thoughts your lugs? Who wins tonight? Packers? Tony?
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  Speaker 1: Who wins Tonight? Yeah? I think the Eagles do. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I think the Eagles are four and oh on the
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  Speaker 1: think they're desperate, and I actually think they're the better team. Um,
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  Speaker 1: if they just can catch the ball not turn it over,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna win this game, I think. And then final thought,
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  Speaker 1: who wins Sunday? Broncos are Jacks Logs and I think
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna come down whoever gets that turnover. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: stick with it, Tony. Is it a lock if if
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  Speaker 1: the Jackson run the ball at all and play the
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  Speaker 1: defensive they've played last week. I'm gonna lock it right now.
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