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Random Heathen Ramblings: S3, EP19 - The Rings Of Innangarð & Útangarð · Random Heathen Ramblings

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Hey, Lynn. Hello everyone, welcome back to
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another episode of the random heat and ramblings podcast.
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Thanks for tuning in today, on whatever day it is that you're
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catching this. Hopefully you're catching it the
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day that it premieres, Thursday mornings, as you can tell by my
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appearance. I am not in my genuine get up as
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I normally am. I went out for dinner tonight
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with it was my father fathers-in-law.
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I guess that's the possessive turn, right.
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It's his birthday. You can't say father-in-law's
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because there's not multiple laws.
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It's my father's in-law birthday.
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So happy birthday, Ronnie. Love you, of course by the time
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this airs, it's the day after, but I'm recording this now
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coming back late at night from having dinner and I you know
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didn't want to change or whatever.
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So this is what you see is what you got.
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And so yeah. Going to be a terribly long
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episode today, which might be beneficial for the algorithms
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for the all this kind of stuff. I don't know, but noticing less
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the Spotify Platforms in the others, but I know it is what it
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check out the YouTube channel and see if I need to start
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uploading these at a different time.
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So that way you can catch them when they're live.
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Like when they Premier life, I'm up for that.
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I'm up for considering that so we shall see but today's episode
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is going to be focused on a topic of discussion that came in
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as a Answer to a question that I posted earlier in the day.
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I didn't get it out to Twitter or YouTube, but I did post it on
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Facebook and Instagram. Just asking what should we
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ramble on about today? And it's going to be from my
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good friend and brother JM all of a sudden and you guys should
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be familiar with him by now as much as I've featured him on the
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podcast and talked about his work and we have a dedicated
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place. Playlist on the YouTube channel
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and midgard, musings YouTube channel, to his drumming and
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shamanic ritual drums, rattles. Things like that.
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Kind of, it's like a music little playlist or whatever, but
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it's all is handmade items that are used in songs or drumming
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meditation. Mainly one really call it a
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song. It's more like, drumming
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meditation. So, check that out.
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It's a playlist on the midgard musings YouTube channel and So
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he's the responder that we're going to be facing today's
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podcast, this week's episode on. But before we do get started as
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as we started to reintroduce, the tradition of burning
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incense, this one is going to be the mugwort.
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We're going to do mugwort today. So let's get that man.
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Pajama going. Hope you're all doing.
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Well. I appreciate all of you all your
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kindness, all your support. Yeah.
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There we go. It's still kind of off in the D
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stance there. Smells good.
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Speaking of incense. My wife was going through a
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bunch of her things today and she's got a lot of incense lot
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of different Aromas and I have acquired a bunch of ones that
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she had gotten over the years or recently, I guess.
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And like I don't really prefer these.
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I just got them because they were, you know, there was a good
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deal going, they were on sale. So I got like some I got Pine.
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I got Cedar. Or clove this the kind of stuff
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that I like. So we're going to have plenty of
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instance to burn for quite some time and you know, get a chance
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to enjoy all that. So shout out to my wife as well
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for being thoughtful and sharing in The Spoils of esoteric
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shopping sprees. We she or we have gone on.
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So like I said, today's episode, I did, I kind of just reached
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out to people Post on Facebook and Instagram to ask, you know
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what you guys want to. Hear us ramble on about today.
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And the topic that we're going to talk about is the concepts of
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the inner and outer jams response, to the question of
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what we should ramble on about. I'm just going to read his
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response verbatim is the Rings or levels of, you know, God and
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shooting guard. And if you're not familiar with
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those terms will get into the We'll get into that in a minute
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in a minute, but it says the talk about the Rings, / levels
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of England, garlic and Putin Garden tribe Life as a community
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Dynamic, versus the dynamic of greater or larger Community.
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He says, I see a lot of young folk or those newer to this path
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and way of life, confused, and getting hurt feelings or
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believing. Oh, sorry, he says a way of
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life. Confused and getting hurt
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feeling or believing kinship is a given or expected based solely
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on the one thing known to be shared or in common, that being
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Norse paganism. so I get where he's coming from and I know and
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I know what he's talking about, and I've actually had a Rather,
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similar thing kind of take place.
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I talked about this a little bit last week.
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As a matter of fact, in terms of defining barriers, maintaining
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the sovereignty of Hearth amongst tribe and all that sort
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of thing. And it's interesting that that's
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the response that JM gives because I've since last week
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have had conversations with, not just JM, but others, and of a
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trusted status in my life to just, you know, talk through
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things. like this, you know, when you get into Sharing time
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and space and energy and whether it be ritual or whether it be,
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you know, just anything, just sharing time with people.
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Sometimes the barriers that you had set at one time.
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You know, what you talk about? What you don't talk about those
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lines. Kind of get muddled a bit and
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the lines aren't quietly aren't quite so defined, the more you
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get to know some people and lines get crossed and there,
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there's an Thing, I think to be reminded of is, you know,
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maintaining sovereignty of things that should be Sovereign
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for instance. The Hearth, the home, people's
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lives in the home and, and other things as well.
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So, what to what James response was about the various Rings or
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levels, as he puts it of the in and guard in Newton guard
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concept now, so for a lot of people that are listening to
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this podcast and I have been following me for any length of
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time and have been Heathen or Pagan for any length of time,
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the concept of of the of the inner yard and the outer yard,
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especially in the like Germanic Heathen approach to things is,
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should be a very familiar idea. The words themselves are an
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exceptionally old that I can recall, but and I don't even
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think they're found in any of the primary sources, but the
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meaning behind it. What the the sense behind them
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all is, you know, even guard in and yard mutant yard shooting
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guard. Is the inner and outer yards and
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what is within the yard is? So, it's sacred.
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There. There's a, there's a degree of
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sacredness that exists within the yard, because, again, it's
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that Sovereign separation of what is outside of the yard.
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What is without is outside of our control and it does not have
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our ruling and what is within does.
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And so, but, you know, the levels, the Rings, what is in a
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guard? Who are those that fall within
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your in and guard are there different levels of in a garden?
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I think Understand what Jam is talking about in referring to.
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So we're going to kind of dive a little bit into that today.
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So some of the things that I think we should be reminded of
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is whenever we talk about tribe kindred's, the terms, kind of
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get I guess used in a way that would suggest that they're one
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in the same. A tribe is just a kindred can do
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is just to try that. He had yada and while I
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understand that and I've come to realize they are a bit
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different. So like a kindred is is is is is
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the There's a lot of familial connotations that can write,
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Kane is family Kindred. It's like a family units.
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Very churchy in a way that the structure I guess could be.
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Could be the resembling that of what a church organization, or
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church structure church family might have, you know, where
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there are many people that assembled at that believe in the
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same thing that go to the same thing to do the same thing, or
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very similar things and have a Analogy and have a kinship tie
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to one another and that their group, their Kindred as it were
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is, is based largely and grossly on familial bonds, right?
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And I think That when you start getting into, when you start
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getting into that, then there has to be checks and balances
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set in place. There has to be things.
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That one is to be worth two on to decide or to determine are
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they worthy of this title? Are they worthy of being kind of
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allowed into that, you know, inner yard.
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And that's it. There's like it's you're either
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in the Kindred or your without the Kindred and and that's the
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line. That's the layer.
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That's the barrier. There's there's you're either in
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or you're out. So and then I think with when
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you come to like tribe tribe is like Multiple.
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Kindred's multiple. Clans multiple family units
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within a community, you know, there are within a society as it
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were that it's you know, you've got a tribe that is made up of
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multiple families and just because this family is friends
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with that family, doesn't mean that, you know, let's say we
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got, you know, Joe and Todd and Craig, you know, just because
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Joe and Todd's family are kin to each other.
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Doesn't necessarily mean that Craig is a part of that group or
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that kinship as it. But they are still part of that
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tribe, right? They are still members of the
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tribe as it were. So they there's there's a
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there's an added layer or an added ring to that Dynamic, to
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that group dynamic. So what we see a lot of times
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happening with the pagans that come into Norris, Heathen re is
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this, and it's probably mostly due to Christian baggage that
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they bring from a previous religion or or another religion.
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Maybe not just Christianity, but I want to use Christianity as
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the as the main one because that's the that's the one that a
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lot of folks come from into into paganism is is this, you know,
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Underlying feeling that we'll just because we all believe in
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the same gods. And goddesses that we are now
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inherently. Brethren.
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We are kin We are family now. and, That's not really the case,
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not in the societal structure of the of tribal Heathen rewrite,
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just because we all believe in Odin or Thor.
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And freyr, and Freya and, you know, frigg and the other gods
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are minor met lesser or major gods of Germanic mythology in
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the been. Those Pantheon's just because we
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have that commonality does not make uh, skin doesn't make us
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family doesn't make us Brethren. Doesn't have we are you know,
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and just Because of that, it does not mean that I am
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obligated to show you any sort of grand gestures of Love
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Hospitality or anything like that.
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And so what I think J M is referring to is, is how Younger
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heathens, you know, the Newbie heathens folks that are coming
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into this thing. Kind of fresh coming into it.
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With that mindset coming into it, thinking that, well, I
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believe in Odin, I believe in Thor, you know, I, you know, I
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sacrificed to the vet here. I do this, I do that, you know,
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I have rooms. I wear a hammer, right?
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Just because those commonalities exist that that all of a sudden
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makes you part of the family, you know, and you get hurt when
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stuff like that happens because if there are, you know, groups
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out there that Our bit to open with their placing of familial
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Bonds on people if there if there aren't enough checks.
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And balances, if it's not guarded closely and protected,
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you know, Garland protected I think are the words that I'm I'm
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thinking of here if they're not if it's not done in that sort of
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way, then you run the risk of painting and and damaging and
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spoiling the well, you know, the the collective area Luck and all
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that settles into. And I've seen this, I've
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experienced stuff like this even recently, where again, like when
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you have families who have, you know, started and based their
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tribal growth off of close familial bonds, you know, like
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we, you know, the founding members of a of a tribe or over
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this or Kindred of whatever you want to call it is Is is they
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are they're considered Brothers amongst themselves brothers
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sisters. They have familial bonds because
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of things that they've done. They've worth themselves to each
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other to the degree. That they consider themselves
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kin. They may not be blood.
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So maybe it's more like a kith thing where you're you know,
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adopted or worth tour oath to into that familial title or into
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that, you know, familial place. But with those, with those
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things comes a lot of responsibility, you know, and if
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you're, if you're to open with that and if you just kind of be
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like, oh, yeah, you know, you've read the Hall of them all when
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you, you know, all this kind of stuff about the gods, you know,
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all these things about the gods. You've heard XYZ sagas, you
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know, you've done all this academic work, but I roll your
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you know, your brother to me now you run the risk of getting hurt
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and and This also is as a bit rampant with regards to the like
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online, even re online community.
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There's a false sense in there. Has been a false sense of
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kinship that exists in a lot of these Facebook groups and things
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where people are always just tossing out the name, you know,
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brother sister this and that and I get called, you know, I get I
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get called, you know, bro. Other a lot by people who I
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don't consider my brother and it's I know it's out of, you
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know, respect. I know it's out of adoration.
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I know it's out of, it's all in good intent.
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You like there's all these as going to and it doesn't hurt my
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feelings to be called that. Just don't expect me to
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reciprocate in that way. Because I don't know you like
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that. And we don't, we haven't gotten
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down like that, man. Like, we haven't done things
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enough with each other for, for us, to be, for me to consider
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you were To give that title. It's nothing against you.
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Personally. It's just that we haven't done
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those things enough to to Warrant it, right?
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So the layers, the layers, the Rings, the in and guard guard.
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Any God, who'd and guard his inner yard, outer yard.
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It's constant. It's conceptual, and it's very
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prominent in Heathen, World Views where what is within is
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sacred? And what is without his, while
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it is, uncontrollable? It's chaotic.
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And there's there's distance in Newton guard outside of the yard
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outside of the circle, you know, outside of your inner circle
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that the further you get away from it, you know, the worse it
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gets the, the more dangerous it becomes and I've I've compared
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it to, you know, you can be friends with somebody.
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You can, they can be close to you.
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They can be, you know, good. People, you know, acquaintances
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friends, whatever but they're not inner, they're not going to
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learn, you wouldn't drop what you're doing on a dime to go
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help them. You know, if the phone rings in
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the middle of the night and you're not going to answer it if
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they send you a message on Facebook or Twitter or whatever
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and they ask you a question, you know, you might wait till the
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next day to respond or whatever r as well as with those that are
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within, you know, and in your inner yard and guard that that's
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going to. Those are the those are the
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types of People that you would be much more inclined to shift
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and pivot to help them when they need it, or answer their
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questions or respond to their messages, you know, more timely
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as soon as you see them and then going back until like the outer
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yard of the outer area, you know.
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There there there's those that are so far outside of that outer
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yard that are not even your friends.
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They have done things to betray trust and betray and break
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frith, and they In turn, become Beyond what's outer?
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And they have become Neath. They have become Outlaw.
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They are, they are, you know, you see them, you wouldn't, you
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wouldn't piss on them. If they were on fire sort of
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thing, you know, so there's those layers, there's those
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layers of what is without. And there's also those layers
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that are within to kind of come back to that, you know, just
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because you're within that inner yard, doesn't necessarily mean
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that you're going to know and should know everything about
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that person's. Yard is I said before?
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You know, I've, I've had that experience myself where the
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foundation of my tribe was built and has been built so strongly
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on. Kinship ties and then in
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familial type things that you know, you over-shared.
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Sometimes you you get to knowing too much about a person and even
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though they are your can't even though you love them as as as
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though. They were your blood there are
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you know, there's got to be careful with that because it can
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it can definitely impact the growth of the tribe as it as it
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was as it were. Because again, the tribe is not
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only what is within that. In person's heart, that one
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person's family. That'll one person's roof-tree.
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And the roof tree might have, you know, a canopy that that
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branches and extends out Beyond just the immediate Hut or the
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immediate home life, like for us, you know, like my roof tree
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is myself, my wife and her parents, you know, but my the
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canopy extends beyond that a bit into, you know, some of my
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tribesmen right now, so but not all not all of them and not to
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the same degree. So and as the tribe grows and as
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Things become more and more established and organically
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builds out from where it has started.
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It is very important to maintain that approach.
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I feel because again, if you just get to know a bit too much
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about everybody in their home, life in there and it taints the
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sovereignty of the Hearth, so, For those that are, you know,
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newbie heathens that are coming into this and feeling as though
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they are, you know, family to people, be very careful.
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First of all, with Going around and and just calling people
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titles of kinship, you know, just because you join a Facebook
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group, just because you join a Discord server.
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Just because you become part of some sort of online Forum where
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there are other folks that say, you know, hailed the Gotham
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where Hammers and can can say a few things from the hover ball
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in Old Norse or whatever, whatever commonalities that you
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have. Just because that exist and just
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because that's their does not entitle them to any titles of
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kinship, nor does it entitle you to be referred to as a tendon in
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titles of kinship? It doesn't now, you know, some
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people might, you know, kind of look at this and go.
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Well, you know, hold on a minute, you know, because we're
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all we're all brothers and we're all. under the same, you know,
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like animism, you know, like we're all Brothers of the earth
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were all, we're all children of the earth, you know, and I get
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that in the sense that, you know, we all kind of have that
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Primal connection to The land and and and and how we connect
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with the spirits around us the the VA tear the whites that
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share space with us in the profane, but what, you know,
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what I'm specifically talking about is, you know, societal
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structure the way that we grow as he then sat on the grass at
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the Grassroots level. you know, just because we got two arms and
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two legs, and You know love the sagas and read The Hub mug and
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all that stuff does not entitle anybody to a title of of that
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kinship. So, you know, for those that are
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new going into your keys and rain going into your your Pagan
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Journeys, it's not to say that. You know, I do.
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You know, and again it's one of those things where I sit back
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and I go well, I'm not the one to tell you how to Heathen look.
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If you feel comfortable with calling somebody that or we or
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they're calling you that and you want to reciprocate that's up to
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you man. Like that's your haul, your
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call. It's your life, you do what you
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want to do and I always say, you know, your hall your call, not
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my whole not Mike. That is not a original quote by
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myself. That is a 100%.
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Eric shervin the word Weaver over the Ravens call that is
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100% his. We call it Mantra.
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I guess that's his phrase. So but it means it's at
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everything about that is, it's simple, it's to the point, but
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it means exactly what it says. It's, you know, not my, not my
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problem, that my dance, my haul, not my call, you know.
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Not my potatoes, not my gravy. I don't know.
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Get a little bit silly with it. But the point is, is if it's
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that's what you want to do then boo, boo.
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You do you the same time, take it from somebody who's not the
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oldest person of, you know, know I'm not the leading Authority on
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anything. I'm not a, you know, allsup
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opentype. I'm not the, you know, person to
26:23
tell you how to Heathen, how you want to eat them, or tell you
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how to pay, and how you a pagan. I'm somebody who's done
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something for enough length of the time that I have that.
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I've got am getting more experience.
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And I have A valid thing to say about this and if I've seen, you
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know, even if I've experienced things in a certain way that I
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want to share that, and I want to what's the word I'm looking
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for expound on this and I want to edify as the word I was
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looking for. I want to edify you and take
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what I say and just try it out and see.
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Right. Okay.
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Well, I'm going to go back into this Facebook group tomorrow and
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instead of saying Halen good morning brothers and sisters of
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Midgard. You know, maybe not, maybe I
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have a different view on things, then maybe have a different
27:16
approach on things. Maybe have a clearer view on
27:18
things. Because again, once you start
27:20
opening yourself up to this, I'm your brother.
27:22
You're my sister. Let's all be one, big, happy,
27:24
Pagan, family, kind of thing. There's this x, there's this
27:29
sense of entitlement. There's an almost, an
27:31
expectation that's being set. And you go.
27:34
Well, I can't believe that, you know, they unfriended me.
27:36
I can't believe they said this about this or I can't believe
27:39
they believe. You know, this particular way
27:43
they were my brother. There might, they weren't, you
27:46
know, not unless they've done enough and worth themselves
27:50
through it. You know, I'll just, you know,
27:53
go out here and use examples. I've known Well, let's let's
28:01
let's go back to, you know, kind of where I started with my
28:05
Heathen re. I've known my tribal Brothers
28:08
for probably the biggest part of six going on, seven years.
28:16
But we didn't just start calling each other, brother off the rip,
28:20
you know what I mean? Like, we have to know.
28:22
I think I'd the first time I started calling Bingo brother
28:27
was was probably a good year or more into our friendship, you
28:31
know what I mean? And it wasn't even Heathen or
28:34
that brought us together. It was, it was local music
28:35
scene. He played in a band.
28:37
I was at a show. A dog is stuff, you know, we
28:40
started talking about that found commonalities with kinds of
28:44
music that we like the kind of culture that we got into, you
28:46
know, and then and then next thing you know, it's all I see
28:48
he's wearing a hammer and he noticed I was wearing mine and
28:52
you know start talking about runes and the lore and the gods
28:55
and all this kind of stuff and then, you know, the more we
28:58
became friends. We establish that first we were
29:02
friends and then the more we hung out and what we'd started
29:06
actually engaging in things of worth with each other, you know,
29:10
being there that with each other at each other side, partaking in
29:13
ritual together helping each other out, you know, in various
29:19
ways things that worth ourselves to each other, to comfortably
29:26
start calling each other brother.
29:28
And it was a thing. Thing that we learned amongst
29:31
ourselves, you know that we've even talked about this when he's
29:34
been on this podcast before about how you know, that that
29:37
that title of kinship didn't just come right off of the rip.
29:42
Now. Let's compare the same thing
29:44
where I talked about him and have talked about them on almost
29:48
every podcast. Eric shervin, right?
29:50
Eric is another Heathen, who I've learned a lot from and who
29:56
I've been Who I've known and have had contact with now.
30:02
For as long as I've been doing this, this, this, this midgard
30:07
musings thing, not the pat, not the podcast alone, but made
30:10
Garden these things as a brand as a whole, when I started this,
30:13
you know, I've known Eric since then.
30:15
So that's what now for 45 years going on close to something like
30:19
that. We've never met in person.
30:24
We've had a lot of good long conversations.
30:27
I have his number. He has mine, you know.
30:32
We don't over share with each other on things, but I know that
30:36
I can talk to him about stuff that I have questions about,
30:38
because he has experience where I don't and he in turn.
30:44
Meets me at a level where he is comfortable with sharing.
30:49
Certain things with me, not sharing perhaps tribal business,
30:51
which is, which would be out of place for him to do.
30:53
So, his tribe could gar is his business and not mine, and we
30:59
are not Brothers. You know what I mean?
31:01
We are not, we are we have not tied olds of or tied weird in
31:07
any way. We have not made any sort of
31:08
kinship ties. If not met in person.
31:12
We've talked over the phone a lot.
31:14
Chatted over, you know, social media and even collaborated on
31:18
videos. He's been on midgard musings
31:22
before he hasn't been, certainly been on the podcast.
31:25
He's been on like some of these am a type things that I've done
31:27
on the midgard musings YouTube channel, but, you know, so but
31:32
we share a lot of common things and and and yet out of all in
31:37
all the years that we've known each other, I would not feel
31:40
comfortable calling him brother, nor he nor What would he feel
31:45
comfortable calling me his brother that I know and it's no
31:49
disrespect to each other but we know who we are to each other.
31:51
We are friends. That is that, that much I can
31:54
say we are, as we are. We are friends and I have gone
31:59
so far. So we're good.
32:00
Friends, you know, and though the miles are what they are, you
32:05
know, he's in Texas. I'm in Tennessee.
32:08
We've established enough of a of a bond as it were over the
32:12
distance over the ways. We've been able to communicate,
32:15
we've established enough of a bond that we can comfortably say
32:18
that we are friends of each other.
32:21
And that we like to cut some each other's jib and all this
32:25
kind of stuff, but we're not Brothers.
32:29
And and you know, somebody though somebody who you know,
32:34
maybe lets you know, let's say they just they have a meaningful
32:38
conversation with somebody. There are new here and they talk
32:41
to somebody who's got years of experience under their belt and
32:44
they find what that person says to be of great value, you know,
32:49
and they put that value that, you know, that they find that
32:53
person be so valuable that they just are.
32:58
Are stricken with with so much adoration that they, they put
33:01
that title on. Thank you so much, brother,
33:03
brother. It means so much.
33:05
Thanks a lot brother. And again, I get this a lot from
33:08
different people who I don't reciprocate in that way and it's
33:10
no slight to them. There's no, you know, I don't
33:12
feel disrespected. It doesn't hurt my feelings.
33:14
This isn't this is this never is intended to be like, hey guys,
33:17
by the way, stop doing that. Like no, it's fine.
33:21
Like it doesn't, it doesn't bother me.
33:23
And, but at the same time, don't don't don't get upset or Don't
33:28
think it strange if I don't be like you're really appreciate
33:30
you, too, brother, you know, I don't know.
33:34
Like, I've just I've done enough of this for enough of the length
33:37
of time where that something that means a lot to me.
33:41
If I'm going to call you brother.
33:44
I'm gonna mean it and it's going to be because we have done
33:46
something of worth together, you have worth yourself to me.
33:52
That you are worthy of that title.
33:55
And, you know, if I accept the fact that you call that to me
33:58
than it is. I feel honored because I feel
34:02
that you have been deemed that I've been worthy to be called
34:06
that I have worth myself to you. So we talked a bit about and he
34:14
even read this gifting exchange the gifting cycle reciprocation.
34:18
It's not an uncommon theme in many other cultures not just you
34:23
know paganism, but the gifting exchange The Exchange is entire
34:27
of weird. The exchange of Lochte. change
34:31
of gifts, the exchange of things, you know, not physical
34:36
things, per se, not material, things, but time, energy,
34:44
whatever. Just, you know, the the constant
34:47
exchange that that takes place. That can be a powerful thing
34:51
that can, I can really set a very powerful tone and depending
34:58
on the things that you're exchanging with, with somebody
35:01
that can that can really put like I said, you know, set that
35:08
worth with them or with you. So as you go into this like for
35:14
all these new heathens maybe and for those that have been around
35:16
for a little while and just haven't really thought about
35:18
this doing. Even staff are doing, they're
35:21
paying and stuff. Right?
35:22
Maybe perhaps think about it now and realize, you know, how much
35:25
am I putting into this? You know, how much worth is left
35:31
in such a sacred thing in such a, you know, it could just be.
35:33
Oh it's a simple name routes just a title.
35:36
It's okay. Then I call everybody brother.
35:37
It's no big deal. Well, should it be shouldn't it
35:40
be? I mean, like shouldn't it be a
35:41
big deal? Shouldn't you be calling?
35:43
Somebody who means the world to you, your brother, rather than
35:46
just every Tom Dick and Harry that walks across your path, you
35:49
know. Brother sister, whatever you you
35:52
know, whatever title of family that you want to use.
35:58
It should mean something it should carry weight and it does
36:01
for me, you know, so The Rings, the layers in a guard who can
36:09
guard, you know, you will have a group, you will have an inner
36:14
circle of people who you are entrusted to and who trust you.
36:21
And then you're going to have people outside of that that are
36:23
cool. They're all right, you know, no
36:26
harm. No foul there.
36:27
They haven't done you any wrong. And so far as, you know, they
36:30
pretty cool cats, but they are not part of your inner circle,
36:35
the part of maybe the tribe. You know, maybe another part of
36:38
a part of another family. That's, you know, yeah, they
36:41
pretty cool. I like the way they do things
36:42
over there. They keep a nice house.
36:44
They cook good food. They are well-mannered, you
36:48
know, whatever. But they're not a part of your
36:51
inner circle, the part of your tribe.
36:52
They're just not a part of that in a guard, you know, and then
36:56
you've got the layer that goes beyond that outside of that.
37:00
It's not, it's not in and guard. It's not dry bits outside, its
37:04
own. You know, that's a, that's a
37:06
stranger. That's A traveler that I don't
37:08
know. And that's probably one of the
37:10
other things too. That I think gets may be lost or
37:13
mixed up in this is that, you know, people that come into he
37:16
the way they look at things like the nine, Noble virtues, right?
37:20
I've talked a bit about this. I had it's been a while.
37:22
It's been a while since I've gone down that road.
37:26
Talk about, you know, one of the nine other virtues is I think
37:29
it's a Hospitality, right? And I think that in order to be
37:34
a good pagan. In order to live up to the nine,
37:37
Noble virtues, you have to be hospitable and for some reason
37:41
being hospitable means that you open up your home to any and
37:44
everybody that may need. It doesn't matter.
37:46
If, you know them that there are stranger along the way, you
37:49
know, because they read through the have them all and then they
37:51
see how you know Hospital hospitality is, is is a
37:55
dominating theme, especially in the first, you know, section of
37:58
the Hall of mul first however, many dozen stanzas.
38:00
It's almost all about hospitality and being a good
38:03
guest and how to be a good host and what to look for in this and
38:05
that right? I mean, times are different.
38:08
Now, man. There's, there's absolutely no
38:10
way that I would in my good conscience, open up my home to
38:13
just anybody and everybody that needs to get a message on, some
38:15
Rando from Facebook and going. Oh, man.
38:17
I'm traveling through. Could you give me your address?
38:20
I need a place to stay. I don't know you and just
38:24
because you were a hammer and I think you're cool.
38:26
And you got, you know, you know, whatever.
38:28
There's you know, there's I give you a few hotels around there
38:32
that I'd recommend, you know what I'm saying?
38:36
You need a ride. There's there's Uber, you know,
38:39
lift, whatever. I'm not going to, I'm not going
38:42
to drop what I'm doing. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna put
38:45
my my in and guard my inner Hearth, my home, my roof-tree at
38:50
risk for just, you know, just just some average person, just
38:55
some random person that, you know, has a Thor's hammer, on
39:00
their profile picture or says, you know, hey loading, the
39:02
disorder that The whole thing for me and this is something
39:09
that I've said it for the long time for a long time.
39:11
But I've really gotten to a point where I fi live in.
39:14
I feel it is that, you know, Hearth above all.
39:19
The the tribe and all that is is great, you know, and then that's
39:23
something to work towards but best have your Hearth life in
39:28
order have your home in order be super protective.
39:31
Be the be the one that that guards and safeguards, and
39:35
protects your home and your roof tree, you know.
39:40
And that means, you know, from everybody and anybody.
39:44
Keep that keep that keep its Sovereign because it is and and
39:51
the only person that has the right to run your show and run.
39:55
Your hall is is you and then again, you know, there is no you
40:02
are not entitled to have a home opened up to you by somebody
40:06
else just because you share a common belief, a seemingly
40:11
common belief, you know. Now, I have had.
40:19
People open up their homes to me, who I didn't know, very
40:22
well. Hey, man, you're coming through.
40:25
You've always got a place to stay here, man.
40:28
You've always got a roof over your head.
40:30
Thank you. I appreciate that is very kind.
40:32
It's a kind gesture, but you don't know me.
40:35
You don't know me and I don't know you.
40:36
So, you know, first of all, what are you how are you protecting
40:40
your Hearth? My letting someone like me who
40:44
you know granted. I may appear certain way.
40:46
I may, you know be very genuine in the That I am but you don't
40:50
really know me. You haven't taken the time to
40:52
know me and I haven't definitely taking the time to know you.
40:55
So how are you protecting your heart by letting someone?
40:58
You barely know into the sovereignty and the sanctuary of
41:01
your home. You know, how, what kind of a
41:06
good Steward? Are you a kind of a good
41:07
protector? Are you to do such a thing?
41:11
And then what kind of person would I be just so, you know,
41:12
walk into somebody's home that I've never been in.
41:15
I don't know what's going on here.
41:16
I know what, you know what? I'm walking into part of, what
41:20
the hell of a mall says to, you know, that the guests should
41:22
look both ways when you come in and cause you don't never know
41:25
where there's going to be an attack.
41:26
You never know when something's gonna come out and get you,
41:28
whatever, right? So it's kind of a, it's not a
41:31
exact quote, but that's the theme of it.
41:32
That's the spirit behind it, you know.
41:37
Now, you know, for those that have opened up their homes to
41:40
me, and my wife and who we have in return opened our homes, to
41:44
it has been done because there has been enough.
41:49
Knowledge and, and, and character challenge shared worst
41:55
as it were between us, that we know that where we're going is a
42:03
wholesome place. And and, and the people who have
42:05
opened up their homes, know enough of us to know that that
42:08
we are whole summer. I am wholesome enough to be
42:10
worthy to be counted as, you know, as guest within the the
42:15
sanctuary of their home times. Are, you know, this?
42:17
It's a lot different now. As and it wasn't, you know, the
42:20
Viking age and the Iron Age and of Scandinavian, all these
42:23
things where, you know, you just had random people coming and
42:25
going and, you know, they didn't have hotels.
42:28
They didn't have Ins at every turn and every corner you don't,
42:32
you know, you might be going old days journey before you even saw
42:34
a town and you needed a place to lay your head, some shelter, and
42:37
you had a hut that you came across and it was just some, you
42:40
know, nomadic person or some random person about living in
42:43
the in the Hearth in the heath, the heathens as they were,
42:47
right. And I like that anymore, man.
42:52
So some of that type stuff, right?
42:56
I think, I think that's a good thing to be reminded of an end
43:00
to be vigilant of, you know, know understand the layers.
43:06
Just because it's because you have people that are a part of
43:09
your tribe doesn't mean that they are all in the guard.
43:12
Right tribe is tribe, Hearth is Hearth, and hearth is Sovereign
43:17
not everybody in your tribe. Not everybody in the tribe.
43:20
Should have the you know, eyes into the home as it were or be a
43:26
part of the the sanctuary of your roof tree and outside of
43:31
that roof tree and outside of the in and guard.
43:35
You still have your tribe. You still have people that will
43:37
be there at your back. You'll still have people that
43:39
will, you know, come to your Aid.
43:42
If you need it, so there you go. There's my kind of little
43:46
rundown breakdown as it were. What's a rundown?
43:49
Hey, Jim was the rundown. Yeah, about that rundown.
43:54
What's a rundown? It's an office reference.
43:57
The office reference case. You hadn't noticed.
44:00
But yeah, so there you guys go. That's the topic of today's this
44:06
week's discussion. Next week.
44:08
I think we're going to take another Had another.
44:12
Had another suggestion pop up from another, another, another.
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Another. Where is it?
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Yeah, somebody else on the on the Facebook questions was
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