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Cath Cox “Isn't Actually That Good", Commonwealth Games Predictions & Gordy's Glasgow Trip · No Dribble

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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, one thing we didn't talk about on Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: a sad week for the dribblers, as the patron saint
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  Speaker 1: of No Dribble has died, Bonnie Tyler. It's a heartache.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing but a heartache hits you when it's too late,
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  Speaker 1: hits you when you're down. Barlet Bonnie Tyler, You're on No.
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  Speaker 2: Dribble strap in.
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  Speaker 1: Hello and on that sad start. Welcome to No Dribble,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast where we talk about neck ball, we talk
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  Speaker 1: about so much more. I'm Carolyn Swindell.
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  Speaker 2: M and I'm Sue Gordian.
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  Speaker 3: I extended my trip in Bali for an additional day.
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  Speaker 4: Your soul.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate you were coming back Thursday.
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  Speaker 5: But Carolyn, I'm glad it was Bonnie Tyler not Darren
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  Speaker 5: Hinch also died this week, and I thought, that's.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Darren Hitch is not the patron saint. There was
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  Speaker 1: a bit of a ship stir of though, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe but true, Yes, did you guys ever have hair
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  Speaker 1: like Funny Tyler's?
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, what did you not try for the big
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  Speaker 4: tease fringe?
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  Speaker 2: And did you tease that?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 2: Only when I was at KLOSENICX.
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  Speaker 4: You must have had a perm.
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  Speaker 3: I had a perm, but I didn't it wasn't teased
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  Speaker 3: up like that. I had a perm, but not a
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  Speaker 3: not teased So what sort.
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  Speaker 1: Of perm did you have, like a perm like sort
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  Speaker 1: of straight on the top and then curly around the edges.
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  Speaker 3: Or no, god, no, no, no, no no, it was no,
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  Speaker 3: like I don't know like that.
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  Speaker 4: That's pretty close the barley beach hair.
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  Speaker 5: We were talking about and calisthenics the other day though,
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  Speaker 5: did you have the little like did you have a
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  Speaker 5: leotard and stuff?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did kelosenics for seventeen years. Seventeen years. I
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  Speaker 3: started when I was Yeah, I this is what people,
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  Speaker 3: well some of the dribblers will know, because I noticed
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  Speaker 3: a few people writing that they knew mum.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, and I did kelosenics. I started when I
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  Speaker 2: was two.
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  Speaker 3: You're supposed to start when you're three, but when you're
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  Speaker 3: the teacher's daughty, you can start earlier.
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  Speaker 2: And then I wait, what.
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  Speaker 1: Do you mean you're supposed to start when you're three?
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  Speaker 1: What type of Eastern European nineteen eighty two training regime
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  Speaker 1: is this? Like?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I know, I know, well it gets worse Soviet kids.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't flexible at all, and Mum would get on
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  Speaker 3: your back and push you down, and oh god, anyhow,
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  Speaker 3: my hamstrings I can tell you they've never been the same.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I went to the AIS and then I
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  Speaker 3: even when I came back from the AIS, I went
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  Speaker 3: back and did one or two more years, I think.
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  Speaker 2: Can you for those of us the uninitiated, yeah, good,
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  Speaker 2: what is kelosenics? Yeah? For the it's like you explain
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  Speaker 2: it to us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so it's like, oh god, like it's routines
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  Speaker 3: to music. But you're like it's a team, right, So
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  Speaker 3: but you do things like marching free Arm Rods dance
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  Speaker 3: Farm but free Arm. So like, you know, I'm terrible.
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  Speaker 3: I can't explain calthen Like ready, okay, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: go and google calosenics. Like when you watch it at
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  Speaker 3: the elite, like like anything in sport, it is unbelievable,
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  Speaker 3: like insane. So they you know, you have like ballarats
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  Speaker 3: like where you go for the main championships and you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: blah blah blahs like what because and again, all you
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  Speaker 3: Calosenic people out there that no more than me, please
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  Speaker 3: feel free to write jop down what all this is?
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  Speaker 3: About but Ballarat because it's where they have the theater.
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  Speaker 3: I can't remember what the theater's called, but yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: always just been where they used to go for like
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  Speaker 3: you'd have all competitions, so you'd learn all your routines,
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  Speaker 3: and then you'd competitions and then you'd go to the
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  Speaker 3: comps and then eventually go to like the main competition.
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  Speaker 3: It just was in Ballaratu and so you go away
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  Speaker 3: for the weekend and it'd be there's a lot like
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  Speaker 3: the makeup and the leg ten and the like. And
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  Speaker 3: I used to run from a netball court, so like
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  Speaker 3: obviously I started netball late.
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  Speaker 2: I was only I think I was fourteen or something
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  Speaker 2: when I started playing.
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  Speaker 1: You were two and a half when you started netball.
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  Speaker 2: Two and a half when I.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so, and I would literally play a game and
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  Speaker 3: like I'd have a broken finger, Like I remember actually
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  Speaker 3: one game in particular, I was playing outside. I'd fallen over,
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  Speaker 3: I had gravel rashed down my left leg and I'd
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  Speaker 3: broken one of my fingers, and I was like, and
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  Speaker 3: then the competition happened to be the comps were actually
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  Speaker 3: right next door to where the courts were, so in Ashburton,
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  Speaker 3: so I was playing at the Ashwood netball courts and
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  Speaker 3: then it was at the Ashburton stage like whatever, and
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  Speaker 3: I remember going across, running across. After I'd finished playing,
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  Speaker 3: I had blood going down my leg and a broken
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  Speaker 3: bloody finger.
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  Speaker 2: I knew deadss never got fixed. It's terrible. And I
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  Speaker 2: went in and Mum just looked at me like she
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  Speaker 2: was like this, look.
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  Speaker 3: Right, and she's just like, well, no, leg, ten's going
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  Speaker 3: to cover that, and then like broken finger, you should
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  Speaker 3: try and spilt like rods and clubs with a broken finger.
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  Speaker 2: But I never said tikety boo because my.
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  Speaker 3: Mom my mom would have let me know about it.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'd go and i'd go and complete straight
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  Speaker 3: off a netball court.
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  Speaker 4: Would she have stopped you playing their No?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no no, I mean look like, do you
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  Speaker 3: know what I actually And it took me a long
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  Speaker 3: time to appreciate this. So I'm not a real Calosenics person.
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  Speaker 3: People that meet me would A lot of people on
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  Speaker 3: this are going to.
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  Speaker 4: Go, oh my god, yes we are.
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  Speaker 2: But I yeah, but I.
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  Speaker 3: Have very good timing rhythm stage right, so you can imagine.
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  Speaker 2: So I just wasn't overly flexible, but I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was very good at calosenics, but not at the
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  Speaker 3: level of like being able to be flexible, Like flexibility
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  Speaker 3: is a key thing, but I smashed everything else. But
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  Speaker 3: for my coaching, it's unbelievable because I've grown up understanding patterns,
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  Speaker 3: like I see patterns on a netball court as a coach,
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  Speaker 3: and in calosenics, patterns are really significant. So you you know,
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  Speaker 3: you're always shaped, you know, it's part of calosenics, like
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  Speaker 3: formations and you know you move to a different pattern
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  Speaker 3: and all these sorts of things, and so you know,
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  Speaker 3: like from the age of two, Mum has had a
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  Speaker 3: massive influence on the way that my brain has shaped,
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  Speaker 3: and then it's transferred into my coaching even to this
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  Speaker 3: very day.
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  Speaker 2: I just see I'm a patent coach. Yeah you know this.
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  Speaker 5: Explains though, because if you're at the No Dribble Live
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  Speaker 5: event pre Grand Final and Gordy was ripped off the
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  Speaker 5: stage into a dance off with the mob man and
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  Speaker 5: she picked that up very quickly, didn't she?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well you do know that she'd
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  Speaker 1: been sent the moves in advance, Yes, I know now.
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  Speaker 4: But still had then got it down her.
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  Speaker 1: I reckon the three of us and Liz would go
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  Speaker 1: as a little calisthenics troop.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no good, no, seriously, And I heard I heard
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  Speaker 3: you guys talking about it last week. I think where
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  Speaker 3: Liz mentioned when we did the Centurions, I dragged them
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  Speaker 3: in to Cherelle, Cath and Liz with Mum to practice
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  Speaker 3: a routine and ah my god, and I did when
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  Speaker 3: I hopped in the car with Mum, or when I
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  Speaker 3: saw Mum, Mom's like, oh my, and she said, oh,
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  Speaker 3: Liz is terrible, but.
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  Speaker 4: This depends great good at everything.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, no, that's why it's fun to hear that there's
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  Speaker 1: something she's not good at.
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  Speaker 5: Liz Ellis knows she's been asked to do dancing with
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  Speaker 5: the stars at the times, and she's like, oh, wouldn't
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  Speaker 5: embarrass myself.
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  Speaker 2: I can't dance.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she lacks a little bit of the rhythm.
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  Speaker 3: Charrelle's got Charrell's got rhythm. Charrelle picked it up very easy.
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  Speaker 3: Kath can apply herself. And I didn't think was too bad,
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  Speaker 3: but Liz was, Oh yeah, Liz was hard to watch.
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  Speaker 4: So you love it when they're not here to.
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  Speaker 3: It was so funny watching Mum try to coach them
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  Speaker 3: through what we were doing.
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  Speaker 2: It was just hysterical mad.
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  Speaker 5: Liz Ellis feel better about herself after a little something
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  Speaker 5: that happened to me this morning. So Harper was allowed
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  Speaker 5: to go in and watch.
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  Speaker 4: Like YouTube or whatever. I do no dribble this morning.
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  Speaker 5: Anyway, she jumps on and she likes to watch the
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  Speaker 5: dogs singing in agt and stuff like that, or the
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  Speaker 5: rehearsals and the.
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  Speaker 4: Auditions whatever they call.
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  Speaker 5: Anyway, she goes to fetch some stuff up and she goes,
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  Speaker 5: Nanny's been watching you play Nepple and I was like,
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  Speaker 5: really anyway, So we clicked on one of the games
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  Speaker 5: and started watching it. So Harp was watching it for
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  Speaker 5: a while in silence, and then she turns around to
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  Speaker 5: me and goes, you're not actually very good, And I
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  Speaker 5: said okay. She said, what does everyone carry on about? Like?
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  Speaker 4: I thought you were way better, but you're not actually
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  Speaker 4: very good.
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  Speaker 5: I said, I've never I've never. This is legit, right,
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  Speaker 5: I said, I've never said I was the best buddy,
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  Speaker 5: like at all.
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  Speaker 4: And she goes, I thought you were like Annie Lives
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  Speaker 4: and I said good, no, Annie Lis is the goat.
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  Speaker 4: This conversation went back.
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  Speaker 5: And forth for age and she goes.
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  Speaker 4: I honestly thought you were so much better than this.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, been there in that conversation and been
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  Speaker 1: able to say, Catherine, I'll feel these questions, thank you
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  Speaker 1: very much, because you've been way too humble there. And
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  Speaker 1: as everyone knows, I mean, no one listened to this
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  Speaker 1: podcast needs needs me to explain what a bloody legend
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  Speaker 1: you are. But oh man, that's that. That's some brutal
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  Speaker 1: reality checks and looking.
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  Speaker 5: Forward to the team is Oh I know, but to
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  Speaker 5: the point that I almost wanted to search up. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm trying to think in my game.
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  Speaker 4: Which game was really good stuff?
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  Speaker 5: And just threw the point to what am I doing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: What am I doing? Step back?
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  Speaker 3: You need you need to show it. You know where
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  Speaker 3: you need to show it. You need to show it.
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  Speaker 3: When you came to Fever, I reckon you were the
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  Speaker 3: most ripped I'd ever seen you.
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  Speaker 2: When you were at Fever.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you were playing goal attack like they're a photo.
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  Speaker 3: You were like you were ripped, that you were insane.
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  Speaker 3: You really show her that. She would be shocked.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't think anything's going to bring me back.
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  Speaker 1: Also, she could just shut her pie hole. Frankly, you know,
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  Speaker 1: come on, that's that's outrageous.
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  Speaker 5: So Liz Ellis is up here, Pat Cubs is even
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  Speaker 5: further down than where she was before after this one.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if we were going to talk about hard to watch,
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  Speaker 1: maybe Gordy could coach me in a in a goal
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  Speaker 1: circle at some stage and then she could walk away.
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  Speaker 1: And so that was hard to watch, but it's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: So remember my mate Andrew Barnette who came along and
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  Speaker 1: opened our show in Penrith with some comedy like he's
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  Speaker 1: got two teenage boys, and he said he never performs
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  Speaker 1: worse than when his kids are coming along to see
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  Speaker 1: him like that, it's just And he opened for Jim
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  Speaker 1: Ohen once and one of his kids was there and
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't that great. And Jim Owen came out and
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  Speaker 1: said to Barney's son, I don't know, he's really really
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  Speaker 1: good usually, oh, but just having his kids there him
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  Speaker 1: made him nervous because there's no harsher critic.
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  Speaker 3: That's an occupational hazard for the comedian, isn't it. I
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  Speaker 3: just wouldn't take the kids.
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  Speaker 1: It's like every so often you're just going to get
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  Speaker 1: up on stage and it's what we call eating shit
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  Speaker 1: because that's basically what it feels like for the time
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  Speaker 1: that you're up there.
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  Speaker 2: I had an eating shit moment.
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: I'm putch Wood. I'm very lucky in that I've had
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  Speaker 1: shows where I've come off and gone. I didn't love that,
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  Speaker 1: but I've never had one where I've come off and
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  Speaker 1: gone that that was an absolute Desiresta. You know, I've
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  Speaker 1: come off and gone. I was the worst on the
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  Speaker 1: line up tonight, but you know, still managed to get
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  Speaker 1: some musk. But what's interesting, I record every set that
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  Speaker 1: I do and I listen back because invariably, if I
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  Speaker 1: come off and go, I am a god of the
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  Speaker 1: comedy world. When I listen back, the audience's reaction is
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  Speaker 1: not as good as I felt. And if I come
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  Speaker 1: off and go that's the worst set I've ever done,
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  Speaker 1: the audience reaction is much better than I was hearing
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  Speaker 1: at the time. So so much of what's happening in
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  Speaker 1: that moment is what's going on in your head, not
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  Speaker 1: actually what's happening in the room.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, when you come off and you think that you haven't,
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  Speaker 5: like it wasn't your greatest performance, can you tell straight
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  Speaker 5: away like is it all reliant on last for you
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  Speaker 5: or can you tell, like my timing was off or yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So you absolutely feel it in the moment, because so
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  Speaker 1: much of the energy that you get as a stand
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  Speaker 1: up comedian comes from what the audience gives in now.
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  Speaker 1: Quite often if they're quiet, they're still enjoying it, and
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  Speaker 1: that sort of. So we'll often as comedians, have watched
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  Speaker 1: the audience for one another a little bit and just go, no,
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  Speaker 1: they were there, you had them. They were just a
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  Speaker 1: quiet audience. So a good MC will get up at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning and will not only warm them up, but
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  Speaker 1: we'll tell the audience your job is to laugh out loud.
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  Speaker 1: They will do their job better if you do your
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  Speaker 1: job right. But you know, it's not we're not it's
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  Speaker 1: not TV, so you can't be sitting having a chat
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  Speaker 1: because we can definitely hear. But it's also it's not
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  Speaker 1: the buddy symphony orchestra where you have to sit quietly
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  Speaker 1: and politely. So a good MC really briefs the audience
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  Speaker 1: well about here's what you'll get a better experience out
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  Speaker 1: of this if we all follow follow these guidelines.
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  Speaker 4: So and no one's ever heckled you.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: Oh you might get heckled all the time, but you
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  Speaker 1: know it's not. It's I think it's fallen out of
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  Speaker 1: fashion a little bit. Often audiences will turn on one
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  Speaker 1: another that if there's someone who's really trying to hijack
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  Speaker 1: the show, the audience will turn on that person. So
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: I've been on that person. Well, yeah, to a certain degree.
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  Speaker 1: But actually it's better in most instances, unless it's someone
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  Speaker 1: who you go, this is actually fun and we're all
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  Speaker 1: going to enjoy it, you're better off to try to
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  Speaker 1: minimize that and let everyone else in the room get
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  Speaker 1: on with what they were there for, which is not
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  Speaker 1: listening to some clown who's had a few too many
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  Speaker 1: drinks and thinks, hey, I'm funny. So generally, what I
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  Speaker 1: will try to do is acknowledge that they're talking, but
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  Speaker 1: sort of just move on, I guess, belittle the move
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  Speaker 1: them back into their box just a little bit without
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  Speaker 1: without shaming them, because then they'll come out even harder,
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  Speaker 1: but sort of make a bit of a joke about
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  Speaker 1: it and then move on and that sort of one.
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  Speaker 1: But generally, if someone is hell bent on derailing, the
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  Speaker 1: audience will turn on them, and that's it's really interesting
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  Speaker 1: and so really yeah, often people will escort themselves out
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  Speaker 1: once the rest of the has turned on them.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm not ape any ball. You know how you
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  Speaker 2: said you watch it when you go home. I listened
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  Speaker 2: to it. I don't. I don't video everything. Okay, do
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  Speaker 2: you laugh.
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  Speaker 1: Rarely? Because I know what's coming up, so so more
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  Speaker 1: of yeah, I will if it's something that I sort
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  Speaker 1: of that was an improv thing or whatever. Sometimes I
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  Speaker 1: might get a little bit of a laugh out of it.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, I don't laugh out. I know my jokes,
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  Speaker 1: but so you know, I just wonder whether you still laugh.
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  Speaker 1: But it's actually it's really funny when you're telling a
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  Speaker 1: joke that goes well all the time and then one
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  Speaker 1: audience doesn't laugh, where the last ninety nine audiences have laughed,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, you guys, no that was you.
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  Speaker 6: You mean It's like, no, that was me.
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  Speaker 1: I ice, clearly I screwed it up. And it's each interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you'll see a comedian hang shit on the audience
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  Speaker 1: and go you groat audience, and it's like, well, it's
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  Speaker 1: your job to make them last.
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  Speaker 2: Ye oh, god, fascinating.
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  Speaker 1: Should we have a little break and come back and
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  Speaker 1: talk about the netball?
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  Speaker 2: Here?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 7: Turn every now and then I get a little bit
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  Speaker 7: nornely and you never coming around, turn around every now
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  Speaker 7: and then I get a little bit child listening to
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  Speaker 7: the sound of my dear round every now and then
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  Speaker 7: I get a little binnerse that the best of all
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  Speaker 7: the years have gone by road every now and then
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  Speaker 7: I get a little bit terrify them.
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  Speaker 8: Then if you don't look in your eye.
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  Speaker 3: Na time.
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  Speaker 8: Ever again, dream of some way.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Well, Gordie, you're having a teensy holiday now, which, thanks
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: to the magic of audio, actually finished yesterday. But here
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: we are on a Friday talking to you, and you
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: are just a few short days away from getting on
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: a plane, and we don't need to go through the
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: economy class thing and Carolyn having short leads and not
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: needing to have a worried about we don't we don't
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: need to go over that ground again. But you're flying
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: to Glasgow on Monday.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: No, when on Wednesday? Wednesday? On Wednesday?
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you start Friday.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so hold on so Land Thursday Friday rehearsal and
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: then I'm doing a coaching workshop Friday night for the
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Scottish coaches.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: A bit of a side gig yep high cast.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: No not with Cat Tetley like we've coaches, you know,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: like a coaching workshop. Yeah, gotcha, and then start Saturday
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: three games.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a hectic schedu Cat.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: As you know, the last time we did it well
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: when we did Brisbane Gold Coast sorry when we dig
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Gold Coast. Yeah, like you just it's it's a huge,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: it's the workload's huge.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: It is huge.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: So three games a day for sort of a days.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Ish No, So this the way the fixture works is
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: the first two days there are three sessions yep. And
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: then so yep, so that's I'm just thinking Saturday, Sunday
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: and then i think Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday at two sessions
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: and I think I'm two or three games a day
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: on that, and then Thursday goes back to three sessions
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: and then then finals. Finals is less because you have
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: your your qualifications yep. And then obviously if you're in
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: the top four, you that becomes a rest day and
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: then you then then there's the metal games.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: So so you're a minimum of two games a day.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I think like, no, that's my max
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: is three games ye my personally for me.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So there's six teams in each side of the drawer.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: There's two sides to the draw, six teams each. They
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: all play each other, so they've all got they've all
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: yet five games, is that right? And then is it
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: the top three from each pool?
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Top two?
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: Ye?
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Which is which is why Australia's pool I think is
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: tough because when well it is, it's tough because there's
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: no guarantees for any country, right So but we always
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: have this great confidence in that Australia will finish one
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: or two. But they have England and South Africa in
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: that pool, and I think that that, like you know,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: I'm all eyes on South Africa this tournament. I actually
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: genuinely feel like they are on the rise. I think
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: their systems over there are getting much better. You know,
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: their scouting's going well. I think you know, their league
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: over there is vastly improved, standard wise. I think their
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: current coach is seems to be the right fit. And yeah,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: so I just think there's some real interest in South Africa.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: And so I want to say that whilst you know,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I feel like Australia will finish one or two, but
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: I think England need to be really careful.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to you know they're going to
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: have to.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: Well, England lost that series to them, didn't they at
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: the start.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Of the year.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know there was sort of
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: a lot potentially behind that. But what it irrespective of
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: what is behind that, what England did is they gave
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: South Africa confidence, and confidence is a big beast in
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: the world of international netball, right, So I feel like
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: South Africa going to this tournament feeling pretty confident that
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: they could potentially take England and find themselves in one
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: or two. And then that becomes the crossovers. So then
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: you've gotten the other pool. Potentially it'll be New Zealand
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: and Jamaica. I don't know if there's as much challenge
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: in that pool as there is in Pool A.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: And so then they'll have one v two in the crossovers.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: So Pool A one plays Pool B two, and the
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: winner of that, yep, the crossovers, and then the winner
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: of those two games the crossover games go straight into
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: the gold medal game and the losers play for the
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: bronze medal.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, wow, it's pretty brutal. It's pretty brutal.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's actually makes it makes the the it makes
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: the rounds a little interesting. I think, you know, sometimes
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: we've been through tournaments and you're kind of like, you know,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: it can be long, whereas I feel like, you know,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: like I was thinking on day two Australia play England,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't wait.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I'm calling that game.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Can't wait to call that game, right, And then when
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: you get to that crossovers, you know, they're brutal games.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: And I remember that last year at the not last year, Craig,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: he's a couple of years back at the World Cup
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: in South Africa where Jamaica had.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Beaten Australia during the rounds and then.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Got into the crossover game and Australia had to beat Jamaica, yes, to.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Go into the gold medal game.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Oh and Australia has never not played in a gold
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: medal game. Like, so can you imagine the weight on
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: the shoulders of those players. I was calling that game
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: and I felt physically ill for everybody in.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: The semi final is by far the more stress full game.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, because you don't want.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: To be Australian team never to make it through.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I felt like in watching it, like if
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: you can recall this game, so Steph would absolutely stole
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: the show in this game. She was a genius and
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: played her little heart out.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: And when Australia won, and I just was.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Like, like Australia one because of Steph Wood in that game,
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: it was it was insane. But when it got into
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: the gold medal game, she didn't feature as much, but
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: she'd done her job in the most important you know,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: like theoretically, in the most important game in the context
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: of that tournament, and so it was such it was
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: such a great game. And almost when you watched Australia
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: playing in that gold medal game against England, it was
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: almost like it was a training run, Like the weight
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: of it was almost like the pressure looked like it
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: was off their shoulders. That wouldn't have been the case,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: and but they they were Yeah, God, that was a
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: that was a good tournament.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Enjoyed.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: So what happened, Harper and tell her that I was
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: like Steph Wood, I was great.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: In a rounds and then I just sucked in the
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: important games.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: AnyWho, you're ever worrying about your ego, have kids, I'm
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: excited to I started doing some research this week and
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: looking at some of the surnames of pronunciation.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: So I m.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: Jcob Wenda and Halita Bev and asked for them to
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: give me voice memos for all their team names, which.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so good, send it three please. I'm a cat.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: That first game, I yeah, the first game I call,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: which like, is Austraight, It's Australian tongue, right, yes, I'm
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: pretty sure.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Australia.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: And I've got Cat to ivity alongside me, so I'm
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: like to she, I don't have to worry.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: All the pronounciations.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: I was going to.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: Message Cat and ask her, but she always puts the big,
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: you know, the proper spin on it.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: So I test Helena and I.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: Said to her, if you can give me the Aussie version
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: of it, the amazing things so much.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I do love this though, because you know, growing up
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: in you know, watching rugby league through the eighties and
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of South Pacific Islanders playing, and
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: the commentators made no effort to and culturally it wasn't
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: like it was just the commentators who were doing it.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: As a society, we just didn't make an effort to
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: get people's surnames correct and.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Just sort of oh too hard.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Whatever, I'll say it my way, or I'll give you
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: a nickname or whatever, and it's like, and now consistently
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: it is. You are hearing commentators in all sports trying
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: to get it right and really acknowledging that there is
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: a correct pronunciation that might be a little bit difficult
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: for your average ossie speaker, but it's well try you
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: know some way.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I reckon, I love it.
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: In terms of critical feedback, that's where you cop it
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: the most is when you don't pronounce one's name correct.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: And I think I might have mentioned this on this
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: podcast before and I will remention it leading into the
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Commonwealth Games. But when you do your research and Kath
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: has done what she's done or whatnot. But you can
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: go and ask a player how to pronounce their name
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: and they will tell you like they'll tell you and
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: they'll explain how they pronounce their name. But then they'll say,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: it's okay if you just say it like this right,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: because they know that might be easier. So you might
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: you've got approval of the person to go and pronounce
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: their name in.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: That particular way.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: And blah blah blah South Africa names some of the
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: fig names whatever. But then you still get abused because
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: someone's like, you know, blah blah blah. Yeah, like or alternatively,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: you go to the team manager and you say to
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: the team manager, I was wondering if you could just
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: help me with pronunciations and.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Names she's got I don't know.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can tell you that has happened so many
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: times at big tournaments where you go to the team yeah,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: and then you can't even this is the thing I'm
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: worried about, caf IS And you know, hard for you
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: because you're calling it off a TV screen.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I'm there live.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: But you know, like when you get to Malawi and
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Uganda and their names are so long, yes, that they
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: minimize the font on the back of the dress to
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: fit the name of us.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, And so you've got.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: To get your bloody binoculars out, like you're calling the
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: AFL to even half the time know who the player is,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: you know, because something like actually probably sixty to seventy
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: percent of the athletes that we're going to see at
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: this tournament are new to us.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: So it's a challenge, it's not it is a challenge.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: It's not easy. It's not easy. We do our best,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: we do our best.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Well I've been scrolling through trying to find a post
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: in the Facebook group from Daniel Yuli because and once again, Daniel,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I will probably be butchering that. But last
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: week I talked about how unique Polavi's family give her
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: those lolly necklace is at the south of Scotlanders and
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: so it's common in the Samoan community and the Tonguan community,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: and I butchered the pronunciation and Daniel was very kind,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: but he said he'd make us fun sometime, which I
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: would love. But I think would Harper be impressed? Then
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: if you had a sports fan saying to you, I
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: will give you a lay a lolly of a lolly
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: necklace to acknowledge this achievement that you have done, but
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: you can't have any because you don't think I'm good enough.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Like maybe that would be.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: I feel like I've got a fair way down now,
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: I've got some work to do, but that would help.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, you know what, you're the coach of her team,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: so I would be suggesting that you probably need to
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: get more targeted in your feedback with her.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Where is Harper put her on? We'll tell her.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: So from here, we've got a LOLLI alas for you.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: Quickly come over here, and Gordy wants to have a chat.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Gordy, Annie, Gordy wants to talk to you. Se your
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: head in.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: High harps, high harps? Where are you dull?
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: I can't see you next see your face? Oh there,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: I can see one eye. Hey, did you know how
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: good a netball player your mother was?
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: No?
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: A legend of the game, legend? Did do you? Do
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: you know that she was as good as Arnie Liz?
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: She said she wasn't.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: She said she wasn't.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: She wasn't.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she was your mother.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: International goal shooter of the Year five years in a row.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: Gordy, yea, it doesn't. I need to get the chet
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: out again, anyone.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: How'd that go down? Well or not? Well? She didn't.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: She didn't seem that fuss to be on the podcast.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I've got to say we have we have other guests
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: who are more enthusiastic, and we'll come and be more
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: complimentary about you, Catherine. So Papa can come back and
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: try again when she's twelve. We'll re audition her at
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: that stage and see she's spat. She just didn't dribble,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. So just before we
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: move off our netball segment CPA.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know nothing.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I think we all need to
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: have CPR, don't. We got no idea what's going on.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: No, look, they're still negotiating, I think, chipping away at it,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: and the great thing is chipping away at it quietly
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: in the background. So you know, historically this has always
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: been a bit of a nervous, noisy public period. I
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: think I saw the first article come out in the
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Herald Sun potentially, but yeah, no, not not. I don't
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: know that we're close to shit, so it's probably gonna
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: take a little bit of a while, which.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Makes it tough.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: But what what you can be assured of though, is
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: that there that doesn't really stop clubs, you know, having
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: the required discussions, and there's a general I think there's
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: a general feel around roughly where the CPA will land,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: but there's just a little bit of detail that's got
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: to be worked through. So I think once that hopefully
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: gets done in the not too distant future, it will
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: really then just be a bit of a matter of
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: just getting contracts signed as such, because I think a
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: lot of what is being discussed in the background between
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: clubs is what normally happens irrespective of the CPA.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: So does it pause for the Commonwealth Games or are
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: we looking at association is?
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But I like a couple of things, so like
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: I used to fear that myself when I was when
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: I was in the chair. But to be blattly honest
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: with you, the Ossie Diamonds players in particular, and I
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: guess a lot of the other players that are playing
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: at these tournaments, they have managers, and their managers are good,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, Like they're not sitting
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: with idiot managers and it's the role of the manager,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: and so the manager would know all too well they
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: either want to get confirmation locked away prior to them going,
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: or they won't disturb them while they're there.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: So I would find it very of.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: Course they will, like if it comes down to a
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: time crunch and they need a decision to make, they
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: have they.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Will I reckon a lot of the players, No cat,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: I reckon a lot of those players will will have
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: made their decisions or no, Like I find that pretty.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: I'm probably talking more Diamonds in my head. I mean
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: the Kiwi's English Gandon's like we've got all of them
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: in the league, right, But I reckon most of them
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: will will have tried to have made those decisions before
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: they start day one of the tournament.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: But you know, that's that's the situation.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Everyone's best laid plans would have been to have had
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: the CPR locked away, but that's just not the case
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: and never is. And we're no different to any other sport.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: This is all.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: It's always a tough time. And if in the game,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: is this a three year No, I don't reckon it.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: I think it'll be a one year roll over, to
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: be honest with you.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: That's which I guess makes sense because of the change
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: that's coming in broadcast next year and the like that
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: it will look like a very different competition next year
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: than what we have just seen.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: Quick Ballpark, give me a just throw a number at me.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: How many more KEI we recruits do you feel like
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: we're going to have next year off the back of
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: the success we saw this year?
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: On top of those.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Already scrambling all on the phone.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: I reckon, well, they are. I can tell you they are.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: I actually know they are. The phones are, like I'm saying,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: I think I said it on Wednesday the phones are
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: going red hot.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: And here's the funny thing is, I'm getting a lot
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: of emails.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: So I've still got my West Coast feed the email
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: address because of my role in coaching with Fever. But
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: there are some Kiwi managers that must think I'm still
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: the general manager and so I've had no shortage of
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: emails come to me from KeyWe managers about players coming,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: which I just foward onto that they might handle so interesting.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: I reckon it's like the interesting one for me. Does
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: of all the Kiwi's that came out. I wonder where
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: the Whitney Sooners maintains a contract. But I wouldn't be
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: surprised to see another two.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Or three join the league.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: I reckon there's going to be.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I think a lot more would like to.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of chaos over there with what's happening
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: with their league next year is and the money, the
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: big questions as to what so so I guess they
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: would be looking for. Well, I need a guaranteed opportunity
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: that I'm going to be playing next year.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: It's not UK and it's the best cop Yep.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw an interview Maddie Gordon did Madi Gordon.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Mattie Gordon did yesterday, No this morning. I was watching
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: it as I was scrolling through my socials and the
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: guy was sort of asking about, you know, what was
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: it like coming back from SSN into the Ferns camp.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: She said, Oh, it's really exciting and then he.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Said, what what was it like playing over in Australia.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: And I'm always fascinated when you know, the players have
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: their first year of the particularly the key Wei's because
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: their league's formidable, right like, and it's sad the demise
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: in terms of financially of what's happening. And Maddie Gordon
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: said it's like she was like, it's insane, Like she said,
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: it's like playing international test matches every week. Well, she said,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: it's just such a high standard. So like it's great
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: to hear it. And I know there's always this question
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: about how many imports. But I love the fact that
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: someone like her comes into a league and says something
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: like that about the league, because that's the kind of
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: league that I want to be a part of.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: You make Commonwealth Games and the Constellation Cup and the
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: World Cup next year and I mean they've already I
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: think done some smart stuff with restructuring the World Cup
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: that you play for the Cup, but if you're in
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: the bottom half of the comp, you're playing for the
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: plate as well. So it's not like your comp isn't over.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: It's not like the soccer World Cup where it's like
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: you're going to see it later. Thanks for coming that
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: there is actually something else to play for.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's good. I think that'll be exciting
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: next year. So but yeah, like it'll be interesting CAF.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, it could be more, could be more,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: but there's not that many spaces, you know, And that's
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: to say, you know, the lot of teams. Like I
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: think one of the key things in recruitment is stability, right,
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: so you can't just go on like And the other
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: thing that people have to remember as this year presented
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: is that we'll have an earlier start to the season
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: most likely again, which means limited preparation. Preparation time becomes
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: less again, and there's an international season in January most
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: likely where a lot of the players, your elite players
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: get consumed, so they're going to come off the back
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: of this Commonwealth games, some of them them go into
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: a Constellation Cup. They then have to get and you'll
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: leave in and then they go back into a international
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: series and then they come to club some four weeks
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: six weeks out before the start of the season. So
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: when you're recruiting, you need to take all of that
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: information into consideration because time is time is important, right,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: time is important. Doesn't matter how good you are. It's
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: a team, right, and you've got to be able to
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: blend into the team.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: And what it is that we've seen the injuries this year.
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: You don't want to see that happen again, missing out
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: on these bends.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: But it's interesting that you raise that. So there may
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: actually be a disadvantage in having a team that is
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: too full of international players because as a super and
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Nepro team, because of all of you talked about there
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: about being able to get them to get there, is
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: that get them to gel as a team?
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Well, that used to look the Vixen's a great example
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: and that when you're saying international players dimonds players like
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: they have a high contingent and used to particularly when
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Lizzie Watson was there. So you know, often someone would
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: go into a pre season with four players.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really want to.
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: Come try though, isn't it like they're all out at
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: the same time, they're all back at the same time,
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: instead of South Africa is in now, in England's in now.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's one of the hard things.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: And that's where I've been saying for ages, like we
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: need a Yeah, we need a window.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: We need a window.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Is there an argument too that too much stability is
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: actually potentially probably? You know, it's like the Vixens were
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: looked unbeatable at the beginning of this season, but then
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: was there a kind of staleness whereas you saw something
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: like the Thunderbirds where it's like a couple of couple
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: of really good tweaks to the team and then suddenly,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: you know, once they found their rhythm, then they became unbeatable.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: I think Vixen's.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Thunderbirds are then Nemesis, right, and I don't I that
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Round six game, you go back and watch it, you know,
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Thunderbird there was reasons behind we like, you know, which
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: we know more of now, but there was a lot
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: going on in that game for the Thunderbirds, and so
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: no excuses Vixen's. You know, there's a lot that goes
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: on in teams all the time, and so Vixen's took
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: their opportunity. But I believe that the list Vixens have,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: if it remains the same and the Thunderbirds remain the same,
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: the results will remain the same.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: That's my thoughts.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they need it. They need to be
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: honest with you.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: I actually think the Vixens need a tall posting shooter
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: off the bench. I think Garvin and Kierra need to
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: continue to do what they do, but they when they
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: change things up, that they need something different in that attack.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: End true.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Now, I can't let you leave this netball segment, Gordy
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: without asking you gold, silver, bronze.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no gold and then Australia, England, Jamaica for me?
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Uh oh, ship and.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Silver and bronze.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: No, I'm going to say New Zealand. I actually think
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: New Zealand are going to be up there. I believe.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: I think, do you know, do you know? Do you know?
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Do you know?
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Hmmm?
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Do we think that New Zealand and Jamaica will win
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: that side of the draw and we think Australia and
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: this and Gordy, you're not sure whether it's England or
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: South Africa. After day one, I'll tell you whether I
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: think South Africa or England, because I just need to
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: get my eyes on South Africa.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: All right, well thank you.
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: Can we are know what I mean?
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah no, but anyhow, look listen, I think it'll be
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: in Australia New Zealand Grand Final.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: Now that I remember New Zealand are playing.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, And I feel like Australia shouldn't just
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: necessarily think they're going to win that, Like I think.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: I look at the.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Talent we have seen from New Zealand this past year
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: and the development and the coaching that they have too.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Like just the biggest concern from New Zealand for me
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: is their goal attack.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's the one position I'm not like Nazio
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: not playing. She's held that role, very senior player, experienced.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Heffernan goes in, what does that look like, Georgia salmonon Yeah,
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Georgia yeah yeah, yeah, sister.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Surely we're seeing her in here next year.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah Salmon who yeah, just and yeah, I don't know,
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: it's just I feel like they're lacking that there's an
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: opportunity for a goal attack to stand up. But it's
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: the one question mark I have that said that, I
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: was thinking about this the other day when I was
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: walking that potentially the mid court being so formidable, I
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: think for New Zealand will counteract a little bit of
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: the loss.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Of strength in goal attack.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: So that's going to be you know, like, yeah, I
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: think it will be easy to shut down the goal
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: attack which puts a lot of weight and pressure on WIKI.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: But then I also look at the mid court between
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Maddy Gordon, Heffernan Burger issues on wing defense.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: It depends how they run their line.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: But I think that that can be pretty impressive.
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: Until you get to Australia because our midport is incredibly
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: formidable as well.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Well yes, yeah, I think you know that. That's again
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: that's where Australia probably shines. Well, I think Australia shines
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: in the depth of our bench. It's always the case.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: And I think.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Marinkovich and the selection panel of always do a very
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: good job when they're selecting because they're always it's easy
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: to select a seven but what they're select thing is
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: plan BCD and E and how to counteract.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Which is what all the teams try to do.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: But I always look and like I have for many
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: years and gone, you know, they can bring Steph Wood
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: historically off the bench. Well, christ who wouldn't want Steph
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Wood off the bench right or whatever that might look like. So,
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: you know, Conean, I think I'm excited to see what
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Conan does this tournament. I think, you know, the development
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: of her goal attack game, but getting back into that
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: goal shooter role and that real crisp movement that's different
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: to what Garvin offers.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: I think lights up Cira Austin as well.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: So that's that's a complete change that a Jamaican defense
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: will have to contend with. So everyone's like, oh, you know,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: how were we going to beat Jamaica. Well, we probably
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: don't beat Jamaica with Garbon and Austin, but we don't
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: have to worry about that.
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I reckon we beat them in the attack and anyway,
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: we beat them in the defense end because they've got
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: a lot of.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah correct, yeah, yeah correct, Yeah. So yeah, it's international network.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Don't you love it? Oh it's excited, Yeah, exit.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: That's fantastic. And yes, before anyone decides to point this out,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: we do know it's Steph frettell now, but Steph Woods
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: games I believe so.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Do you know what though?
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: And I've even in commentary. I've known, I knew Steph.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: I had her as when I was head coach at
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: the AIS and this little Steph Wood came in and
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: I could just I saw straight before me, a genius.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: I've loved the genius ways.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Oh she's a genius. She was a genius. She just
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: didn't she just didn't look like your standard netball player.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: And she speaks, she's spoken about.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: This, you know.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: And we gave her the award that year, which was
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: the Gwyneth Benzis Award for the player most likely to
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: go on and play for Australia, and she was. I
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: awarded her that that year and she was one of
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: the only players the following year not to get a
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: contract with an ss N team.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: There you go, and look what happened.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Someone didn't want to Godion to be correct is interesting.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: And I coaches bringing me and I was I remember
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: chatting with Plumb and I've had a couple of coaches
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: ringing me and I'm like, no brainer, yeah, no brainer,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: great jo yeah great, yeah.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: They're one in a million, those ones. And it's it's
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: it's in the brain. It's the brain. It's just the brain.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: They just see the game unbelievably anyhow, That's why I
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: always just gravitate to Wood. I can't believes little Steph
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: got married, has had a baby and he's all grown
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: up had.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Her baby too. Congratulations, yeah, congratulations, Yeah, no pressure, But
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: come back on court. Uh, you know we're going to
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: take a little break, Molly job. You should take as
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: long a break as you need and enjoy it and
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: come back. We're ready when you are, but we'll take
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: a little break and then come back. Okay. Now that
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I've just gone against everything I stand for and put
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: pressure on women to get back to work after having
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: a baby at a time that suits me rather than
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: what suits them, I will apologize. I would say my penance,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: but I will suggest to you, Catherine, that your next
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: holiday you do not choose to go to South China.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, can you believe?
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Did you see?
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: It's like my worst nightmare?
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: Nine hundred so fakes escaping.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: So there were floods after Typhoon Maysak and in Hendo
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: and severe flooding that overwhelmed a facility and catastrophic flooding
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: destroyed a snake breeding farm in southern China, sending nearly
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: nine hundred snakes into surrounding neighborhoods and flood watchers like
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: and you just there these these video images of the
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: snakes just being carried along in.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: The water with the ness monsters.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: It looks menacing, like when there's when flooding happens in
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: central Queensland and things and people have to climb onto
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: their roofs and wait to be rescued. That the snakes
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: like to be on ground too, so the snakes will
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: come towards their home. It's like, what, it's nighttime, my
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: house is flooded. I'm on the roof waiting to be rescued,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: and now the snakes are coming in. It's like the
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: worst worst horror movie you could ever imagine.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: I think there is a movie.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: There's I've seen a stupid movie where that happens, where
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: the water comes and the snakes are all coming up.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: There's someone on the roof. I have seen this beating
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: them away.
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: I would firstly, I would not go to the toilet
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: because they'd be coming through the bowl. It would be
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: a whole thing. You'd be checking under every thing before
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: you did anything. But if you're also seen in Florida
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: whenever there's floods or whatever. They quite often find crocs
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: in random.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: The crocs that have got out.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: With the floods.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Brigators alligators.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Alligators, Yeah, theylligators. What I did see something and this
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: was about I don't know whether I've mentioned this, but
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: this is a bit about January or February, and they
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: were having a cold snap in Florida, which I think
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: is a bit like a cold snap in Brisbane, like
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: it's it's not really cold. But they have these iguanas
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: and they are an invasive species. They're not native to
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: the area. But the iguanas will freeze and just fall
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: off the trees onto the ground, and so then people
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: will use that as a time to go through scoop
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: all of these things up and then take them away
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: to have them usinas or whatever they do with them.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: It's like cane toads. We don't have to feel sorry
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: for them. But these things just literally freeze and then
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: fall off the tree. And so there's all these videos
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: of these guys with these flatbed trucks with hundreds of
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: these frozen iguanas, and they're not dead, they're just in
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: sort of suspended animation because they've been cryo ciovat.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Or no what it's called.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: So these are not holiday destinations for us. Don't go
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: to Florida in winter and have iguanas fall off the
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: tree and knock you on the head. Southern China in
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: a flood that seems like a bloody nightmare. But Barley
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: and Queensland look in golden.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, perfect. That sun beds waiting for me on else
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: and I'm where am i? Friday?
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: It's Friday, you're back now, Friday men.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: We are extremely grateful that you have taken time to
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: join us this week. Liz is doing all Australia type
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: busy stuff, so Gordy valiantly stepped in and what a
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: great chat it has been. Once again, Susan Gordian, thanks
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: for joining us. Everybody, get ready, We're going to have
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: some sleepless nights. We've got a lot of Commonwealth games
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: to watch. We've got little a lot of the dulcet
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: sounds of Catherine Cox and Susan Gordion in our ears
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: to look forward to in the middle of the night.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: So get some rest. I'm Caroline Swindel.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: I'm Cad I'm Sue Gordian. Thanks have a great week.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: You want to learn some Indonesian. Yes, what do you go?
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Upper bar? No? Not not upper kabar, upper kabar.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you say bugles is that?
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: How are you?
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: How are you? And then bugs good?
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: BUSI Well, it's not a rude word, but it sounds rude.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Singlar piece, singlar piece? What's expensive? Too expensive? Singular? Yeah,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: but when you say you say it like you're taking
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: the singular piece, single piece to expense.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: There you go, no dribble teaching us another language. Thank you, Tim,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Cassie sigrdion.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, singular fits, it's not a patalion. Oh they single
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: o bit?
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: What's bye?
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: What's goodbye? Goodbye?
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: Oh God?
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: What's goodbye?
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: Later?
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: I have rud of mine. Probably don't say yes, ohio,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: God you are Snara