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The Eagles Remain Undefeated! (PST Episode 533) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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  Hey there, it's Jeff. Hope you are doing well. We wanted to
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  let you know that this podcast episode was recorded on Wednesday, September twenty seven,
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  twenty twenty three. By the time you hear this, somethings may have
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  changed with some of the subject matter that you're hearing, but we hope you
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  still enjoy the show. All right, everybody, you're listening to the Philadelphia
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  Sports Table podcast show, the longest running weekly Philly sports podcast show in the
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  world. Thanks so much for joining us over ten years strong. Here did
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  I just say that? I don't even know if I said it. I've
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  been doing this intro for years. I actually forgot if I said over ten
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  years strong. Anyway, I'm Jeff Warren and I'm going by Eric Leonard Man.
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  How you doing, Eric? I think you've said it at the top
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  of every show this year, so okay, let me sist. Yeah,
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  sometimes you say something so much so often. Right now, I'm doing that
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  intro basically four times a week because now we have the Eagles postgame shows.
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  You just say it. There are times when I just don't even realize what
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  I'm saying what I'm doing the intro anymore, And as we all know.
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  I certainly don't know how to do the outro. After all these years,
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  I don't know how to do the outro. No, you haven't. All
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  for ten years strong, you have not been able to do the outro really
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  well. But it is getting close to a radio cliche. You're like,
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  first time long time guys like the tenth You're gonna come up with something next
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  year because it's it's getting a little we love cliches on the show, and
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  the intro is becoming a cliche, you think, so I gotta have to
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  change it up. Huh. I was actually thinking of doing like a whole
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  production thing for an intro, of actually having like the intro. But I'm
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  like, I don't want to. There's a lot of hackey podcasts out there
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  to do that. Yeah, you know what I mean. I just figure
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  as saying something, Well, maybe we should try something different to actually make
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  this thing popular. Maybe we should go that route. I don't know,
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  fart in the microphone boo. Let's hope for the show, folks, Let's
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  do it all right, we got sports here by the way, all right,
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  idea kill one weeks ago just doing a cliches show. Yes, we
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  got I think that should not just be a throwaway thought. We should just
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  we should just actually do it. I think it's an excellent idea. Let's
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  do it. Let's do it like maybe around the holidays or something like that.
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  That'd be a good idea. Yeah, it just lan you bring something
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  cliches, which just thirty minutes of let's just throw see what we can do
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  a show just wrapped around cliches. Oh, I know we're gonna hear some
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  cliches in this particular podcast episode for sure, because first and foremost on the
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  agenda, we've got a report card that we're gonna give. We're gonna give
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  a report card here for and grade each team as we're heading into the fall
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  here, Philly Sixers, Flyers, Eagles. I'm just gonna mention something when
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  we start that segment about the Philadelphia Union, since we have been getting into
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  the Philadelphia Union on this show when lenn is on. So I'm just gonna
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  mention something real quick. Eric, you don't have to mention the union at
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  all. You don't have to. You can replace the Flyers of the Union.
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  Okay, So all right, and then from there we're gonna get into
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  a discussion about this Philadelphia Phillies team as they clinched the top wildcard spot in
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  the National League and they are heading to the postseason. It is a red
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  October. And from there we are going to get into some Sixers talk as
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  well. We know that Dame Lillard is going to be heading to the Bucks.
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  How that kind of affects things with regard to James Harden And also a
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  look at the Sixers roster in terms of their bench. Do they actually have
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  a deep bench going into this NBA season. We're gonna talk about that,
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  and then we got a bunch of NFL and Eagles talk on the way as
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  well, So stick around, hope you enjoy the show. Let's start off,
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  Eric with our report card for each of these Philly sports teams as we
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  head into the fall. We're gonna grade each team here, and like I
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  initially said, I want to just really quick talk about the Philadelphia Union and
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  the fact that I think I'm thinking did they actually did they win tonight?
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  Hold on, I gotta see if they won tonight, because I think they
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  did because they are now third in the Eastern Conference. So I know you
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  do not follow the Philadelphia Union, but folks, they are fourteen eight and
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  eight. I think it was a draw tonight. Actually it was a draw.
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  So anyway, they played Dallas fourteen eight and eight. On the season,
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  I am going to give the Philadelphia Union based on the fact of where
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  they were last season. I'm going to give them an A minus third in
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  the Eastern. Love what we're seeing from this team throughout the season. So
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  that being said, Eric, I'm not gonna make you do any grades for
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  the Union. How many teams are in the East. How many teams are
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  in the East. Yeah, I think there's I think there's fifteen. I
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  think, yeah, fifteen. Well, then they get an A minus because
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  they're third. Okay, there you go, there you go. Yeah.
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  Mathematically, oh there, there you go. Meg dolling out the grades based
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  on math. I like it. I like it. All right, let's
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  head into this report card with regard to the Philadelphia Phillies here Eric again,
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  like I mentioned, we're going to talk about him a little bit later as
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  well, but clinching the top wild card spot in the NL head into the
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  postseason, I think where this Philadelphia Phillies team is right now, I'm really
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  concerned about what we're going to see from the bullpen, and of course some
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  of the starting pitching. The starting pitching is not how it was heading into
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  last year's postseason. I'm a little concerned about it. But still where this
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  team was earlier in this season leading up to the All Star Break. I
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  just I mean, they were getting hot in June. They were certainly getting
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  hot in June. But I'm going to give this team overall here in the
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  fall and a minus. What do you give them? I mean, you
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  have to write and I think we're going to talk about each team a little
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  bit right like and just kind of where we see them, like within the
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  city in terms of popularity. And I want to go a but they don't.
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  You know, they didn't win the division, which they were they were
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  going to win division this year, but to clinch that top wild card spot
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  like they did, now they can kind of just kind of not coach,
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  but get get prepped for the wild card. Weird. I had to go
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  back and look like, how the hell is the first round still work?
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  Again? The three game right now? If it ended, they play the
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  Diamondbacks. But just they get an a minus? And man, I know
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  everyone this is an Eagles town. I mean, and there're three no right
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  now. Everyone loves them. But I got I this is the most likable
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  team in the city right now. I just everybody and this everybody on the
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  team gives a great interview every time they win. There's the there's there's uh
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  what he called ice water. That's like they all seem to really enjoy one
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  another, and they all seemed like really into this team and really into the
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  city. Like I mean, we talked about it many times this year where
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  they're putting up billboards saying Trey Turner, you can do a bud like,
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  which is was an unheard of like in the city of philadelph They gave him
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  a standing ovation. He loved it, and then he gave a billboard back
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  to the fans saying thank you. They legitimately like thank you and is invested
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  here in the city. Yeah, I'm just saying, top to bottom,
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  probably the most likable team because of just the personalities and every like tonight they
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  won and they were showing they came back to meet the Pirates eight to seven
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  and they were stowing some clips from the celebration last night and dudes just no
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  overalls getting hammered. Well, I was gonna say, Garrett Stubbs. I
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  mean, you're back when your backup catcher has such a personality and is able
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  to entertain us fans the way that Garrett Stubbs is simply by wearing overalls.
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  And last night he refused to put on the red October shirt that everybody else
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  was wearing because he had the powder blue overalls. Man, it was fantastic.
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  They each have their own personality that meshes so well with what the city
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  is. Man, I think he hit the nail right on the head.
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  And the manager is extraordinarily likable. He's a hard ass. You can tell
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  it in his face and in his tone, but he gives a good,
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  really good interviews. He's very honest, and he's his speech last night was
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  just like fuck yeah, guys, do this again. Like I love that
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  mentality. I love that positive vibe. But he's also he's also got a
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  hard ass, like I said, And man, it's just it's a great
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  team. Dombrowski was like the ideal GM for the squad because they're a veteran
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  team. They needed pieces to win now. But they've also kind of stayed
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  a little young, not as young as like the their you know, their
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  rivals, the Braves and other teams like that. But man, they could
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  have gone the route of the Mets, you know, and signed the wrong
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  players off for a veteran squad, and he didn't. He made the smart
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  Pretty much every trade he's made, every signing he's done, is pretty damn
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  good. You got here. I mean, Taywan Walker is fifteen and five
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  this year, what all of a number three pitcher and like, and we're
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  going back to the postseason and like, what a They're in a great spot
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  again, Like if they win, who do they play? Like? They
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  either the Braves or the Dodges. I mean, Braves are scary? Did
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  this Dodge is really scary that much? Not really? No, No,
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  they've got some issues going on there. The Braves, Yeah, they do
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  actually scare me. Yeah you know, I mean they scared me last year
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  too. But again, as we head into the postseason, you know,
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  anything can happen. Certain teams get hot, certain teams get cold. It
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  is possible for this team to get back to the series. Again. I
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  don't want to put the car before the horse, but still oh cliche.
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  Oh no, so I don't want to do that right now, but it's
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  possible in the postseason. For magical things to happen. We saw it last
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  year. It could totally happen again, and and it wouldn't surprise me.
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  I mean, why teams keep pitching to Carl Schwarberg. Why would you put
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  anything in his zone because he could knock out of the park. It makes
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  no sense. He backs one ninety eight right five home runs, But for
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  some reason it works on this team. How the hell is he a leadoff?
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  I don't know how that works, but they've been doing it all season
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  long. Nick Castianos was is so cool this year. Kind of unlikable times
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  last year awesome this year having his son is kind of his like mini me.
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  That's been really cool to watch again. Just a really fun team.
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  And I you know, I think before the show we were talking, you
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  wanted to give kudos to the owner and kind of how he spent money,
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  but spent money in a in a wise way. I was, yeah,
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  I'm actually gonna wait for that for our discussion about them after when we get
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  into our next segment. I'm gonna I'm gonna wait on that. I was
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  gonna say that, yes the president, Dave, I'm sorry, John Middleton,
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  I want to I definitely want to give him some kudos. I'm gonna
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  wait on that for a little bit, but we'll definitely get there for sure
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  quick. Yeah. Can I just draw correlation? So absolutely? Pre two
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  thousand and eight, Phillies late nineties up to like the two thousand were range
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  not the most likable team. I mean pre Jim tell me, I would
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  say two thousand and three super unlikable, but we had the best announcers,
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  the most likable announcers and Harry and Whitey right yep, it's completely flipped.
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  Now we have the most likable team in the city. And I hate so
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  much Tack and Ruben A. Marrow really, Oh, I can't stand much.
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  Oh Ruben is that I could live without him? I don't Kroc and
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  t Mac they've actually grown on me. They have grown on me. Yeah,
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  Kruk's not bad, and even with Michael Jack on Sundays with him,
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  the two of the three of them aren't bad. But has there ever been
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  a guy who has failed upward more than Ruben Tomorrow Junior in baseball? It's
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  unbelievable. He screws up at every job that keeps getting promoted. I should
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  write a book. It's amazing what he is seriously an amazing baseball story.
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  A general manager wins a World Series with a team in the Philadelphia Phillies,
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  a couple of years later gets kicked out. He's gonna be a first base
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  coach up up in Boston, right, I think, I think, oh,
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  is it the Mets, And you're right, I think I have the
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  Red Sox. Yet that didn't work out. So now he's in the broadcast
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  booth for the Phillies in a cush job. He's never gonna lose, yes,
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  Like, there's so many good guys for that seat and he's not one
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  of them. But yet he'll be there for the next twenty years. Exactly,
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  yep, exactly. All right, let's move on to the Philadelphia seventy
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  six ers here, Eric, and we're certainly gonna get in some more Sixers
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  talk on the show. But in terms of what this team is right now,
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  I'm just I'm just giving him a c. It's just like it's I
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  feel just average right now. Again, this is as we're heading into the
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  fall here, how we're feeling about the team. We know that they have
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  not taken a dribble during the course of a regular season. The twenty twenty
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  three two twenty four season is right around the corner here, and I just
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  feel and I'm just feeling bad kind of about this team and I'm gonna give
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  him a sea right now at this point. And a lot of that is
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  because of one James Harden and the the the stench that is hanging over that
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  particular saga and situation. It does. It stinks and that's why they get
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  a sea for me. What do you give him? I mean, I
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  know we're talking about the six years later in the in the show, so
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  I won't go to two inch detail, but I understand the stench and the
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  potential lingering stench of what could happen with him beat if he gets unhappy.
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  And sorry there nobody, but I mean, the hardened thing is a complete
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  black cloud over this whole season so far, and status figure out. The
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  crazy thing is that the Dame trade today might have opened up an avenue where
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  they could bring in a better player to replace Harden and put get him off
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  to the Clippers, where he probably wants to be. Anyway, I think
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  LA's perfect for him. He's a complete phony and a ship bag, so
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  that's where he should go. And it now opens up a potential three way
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  deal where Drew Holiday can come in and we'll talk about that later, but
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  that I think. But as as far as a grade right now is they're
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  currently created. I mean, I just looked at the roster before the show.
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  Decent bench, but holy hell, this could be a catastrophe by the
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  end of December. I go see right now? See as well? Okay,
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  let's move to the Philadelphia Flyers. I know you don't follow them very
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  much at all. I'll give one take when I go, yeah, okay,
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  So I'm actually going to give the Philadelphia Flyers at this particular point a
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  B minus. And I'm saying that because Danny Brier has made some tremendous moves
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  during his early tenure as this new general manager. It is a new era
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  of Flyers Hockey, and it is a new era of thinking about what the
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  future can actually be like, not hoping, but what it can actually be
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  like. With with the draft this past season, with the moves that Danny
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  Brier made to get additional draft picks, it was calculated. It's something we
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  haven't seen in many, many years. Yes, we held out hope that
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  Ron Hextall was going to be able to turn this organization around. We certainly
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  held out hope for a very short period of time that Chuck Fletcher was going
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  to be able to turn things around. But I think Danny Brier actually does
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  have a vision implementing that now, setting the foundation of the future. And
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  when you can set that foundation early in a general manager's tenure, That's why
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  I'm giving this team actually a B minus. The plug the hockey place certainly
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  hasn't started, and we know what it's going to be. We know that
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  it's going to stink this year, but we know that two to three years
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  from now this team could really be clicking on all cylinders. So I'm giving
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  them a B minus. So what are your thoughts here, Eric, So
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  you're telling me two to three years ago they were two to three years away
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  from something. That's the Flyers, that's the Flyer's handle. Basically, Hey,
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  guys were two years away from being two years away. Yeah, I
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  was Brier's offseason moved to sowning that jerk off son of his. Oh god,
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  yeah, that was terrible. Yea. Yeah, here's my only take.
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  I don't pay attention to the Flyers at all. I'm sorry broadste Hockey,
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  all our friends over there and anyone who likes the Flyers. I have
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  a lot of Flyers fans of my life, and even they're just like,
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  yeah, you're you're fine, Slyne. You don't have to. But it
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  was funny. So money. And I'm watching the Eagles and they're they're given
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  like a C plus effort, like I mean, not effort, but they're
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  playing a C plus kind of game be minus. It wasn't great. The
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  lines just destroyed the both Bucks lines offensive defensively, and at the same time
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  they won by fourteen points. I'm watching the Phillies or I'm you know,
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  I'm getting ready for the looking at the standings that Phillies win tomorrow, you
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  know they're gonna be in the playoffs. And I look at my phone and
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  the Flyers lost six nothing to the Devils and the first preseason gas and I'm
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  like, wow, what a what a contrast from what I'm looking at right
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  now. But it is the preseason, ever know, and maybe this is
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  the regime, this is there what third regime attempt to turn this around?
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  And but because of the preseason, you have to have some kind of hope.
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  I guess C plus. Okay, all right, very good, very
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  good. I liked. I like your analysis. There as somebody who really
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  doesn't get into the team that much in terms of following them religiously. Like
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  like I said, Michelle, no Lenn and Lenn and I do. Yeah,
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  I think it's very fair, very fair. Your wife and I have
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  the same Flyers knowledge, I think. So, I think so absolutely all
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  right, And finally let's move on to the Philadelphia Eagles. I mean,
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  I'm gonna give the Eagles thus far, they're three and oz one of three
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  teams to not have lost a game as of us recording this, and they're
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  heading into this Week four matchup against the Washington Commanders, as Eric likes to
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  call them, the Comes. So so I'm thinking this team is going to
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  be four and oh and look has been perfect this past week. Some issues
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  in the red zone, certain play calling you kind of question, and they
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  really weren't able to get a lot done in the red zone. But again,
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  they're three and ozer they won twenty five to eleven on the road.
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  Eagles Nation travels so well. Fifty nine percent of the stadium Raymond James Stadium
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  were Eagles fans. It was like another home game for them down there.
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  And yes, this is not a report card for the fan base, But
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  with this team, I'm giving them an A minus at this point because they
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  are one of the two top teams in the NFC they are, and but
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  one of the three top teams I believe in professional football at this point.
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  So I think an A minus is deserved. What do you give them?
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  Definitely an A minus and they're leaning on their strengths as as the quarterback gets
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  kind of used to the new offensive scheme and gets used to his players again,
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  because again that was like is what third game? Didn't have any preseason
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  and they have the luxury of having the best offensive line of football and one
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  of the most ferocious, frightening defensive lines in football. Which that was the
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  entire Buccaneers game. I watched it, and it was it was unbelievable how
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  much bigger each line was, our line compared to their line. I'm both
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  sides of the ball, Like Jordan my Allot at one point was standing next
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  to Goldston, their defensive tackle, and I'm like, he's two inches taller
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  and like sixty more pounds than him, and that guy's supposed to go through
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  my life. It's just unbelievable and I was telling you before them. You
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  know, I'm absolutely in love with Jordan Davis and Jailing Card to the pairing
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  of those two, it's it's my favorite defensive pairings since I mean, my
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  god, Wes Hopkins and Andre Waters come to mind, Jerome Brown, Reggie
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  White, like you know, those are my squads, the late eighties,
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  early nineties teams, and I've always really leaned toward towards the defensive side of
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  the ball. Those guys are so frightening and so fucking good and just annihilating
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  collapse the entire in tier alliance on some plays. And I can't believe what
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  an athletic phenon Carter is at tackle. It just how do you fall to
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  nine? Every pastime's got to be kicking them. It's it's unbelievable what they've
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  Eagles ab to pull off. And because of that, like I just this
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  is one of my favorite teams already so far, and mainly because of the
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  defensive line part a minus. For sure, They're just gonna get better.
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  Offense is a little shaky, which but we're still winning by two touchdowns,
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  you know, in these games, And I don't know what else is there
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  to say. The only we talked about for the show. I'll bring it
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  up. My only fear is like just the spotlight that's on this team.
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  Yea, Eagles never really had that before. I mean, they've had it
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  at times, but they're usually they've never really been the sexy team. They
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  don't play that way. But they're starting to become the sexy team because you
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  know, Jalen Hurts is on commercials and stuff and the Kelsey thing. You
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  know, oh my god, who the hell ever imagine a center would become
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  like a primetime star in the NFL. But it's happening because his brother as
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  well. And you know, I will say, like I'm I'm just fearful
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  that one eventually, we're gonna be like Okay, enough already, like we're
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  kind of I love Jason Kelsey like anybody does. But man, like this
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  past weekend with with that news that came out, I'm just thinking to myself,
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  this is going to be brutal over the course of this season. Because
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  I do I do listen to their New Heights podcast. It's such a good
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  podcast. It's so entertaining, and they certainly addressed you know, the stuff
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  that went on in Kansas City this past Weekend in a very calculated, I
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  think way, and I think it needed to be done from business standpoint for
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  you know, both individuals. But still it I can see myself, just
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  like you Eric seriously around December being like, oh my god, I love
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  the Kelsey or I love Jason Kelsey, and it's like, oh my god,
• 21:56
  can we please stop? My gosh. But I but I, like
• 22:00
  I said, you know, I'm like, you give me in a reality
• 22:02
  show. I don't like reality shows. And it's slowly becoming that the addition
• 22:07
  of Taylor Swift and this whole thing is just like completely insane, like that
• 22:11
  that Chiefs, like what do you call it? Luxury Suite was already nuts
• 22:15
  with Mahomes wife and his brother and Taylor Swift in the Mega It's just it,
• 22:19
  it just becomes it's it's it's now like beyond reality TV. But I
• 22:26
  you know, I think I told you if Doctor Jay was on a reality
• 22:29
  show my favorite human being of all time. Yeah, by season three,
• 22:32
  I probably like, all right, I mean a little sick of Doctor James.
• 22:36
  It's too much. I don't want to be with this person that much.
• 22:37
  So and but I wisten that podcast is really entertaining. I don't know
• 22:42
  if you guys heard the Jason Kelsey told the story of Vince Young when he
• 22:48
  was his first year on the Eagles. He was yeah, and he he
• 22:52
  was he was a rookie and Vince Young was there and he saw Vince Young
• 22:55
  much years and years later and was like, I'm gonna go say hi,
• 22:59
  No way he remembers me, and yes, He's just like, yeah,
• 23:02
  I don't probably remember Vince Young's of course I remember you, man, Brent
• 23:04
  Selick, you were a great tight end. Yeah, And I was like,
• 23:10
  how do you think Jason Kelsey's a tight end like that? Like that
• 23:15
  kind of stuff is great. It's the other Taylor Swift and the reality shows.
• 23:18
  I get tired. I love when they get into the athleticism stuff on
• 23:22
  the on the podcast, like I usually listen to them when I'm when I'm
• 23:25
  mowing the lawn. And I was absolutely stunned. And I've actually never as
• 23:30
  as close as I followed football, I've actually never heard stories about how much
• 23:33
  weight these guys lose during the course of training camp, like a day at
• 23:37
  camp, like a day of camp, how much weight they lose and it's
• 23:41
  water weight and the the the I don't want to call it a curriculum,
• 23:48
  but just the mathematical aspects of how they need to keep their body hydrated throughout
• 23:52
  the course of a day, throughout the course of a week, and how
• 23:56
  that relates to their performance. And I know it sounds may be obvious,
• 24:00
  the way they went into it was incredible. And the amount of weight that
• 24:04
  they both guys have actually lost during the course of one day, one day
• 24:11
  not anywhere near ridiculous. To lose ten pounds in a practice, ten pounds
• 24:18
  in a practice, that's how hard these guys are actually practicing. And the
• 24:22
  most weight both of them actually lost in one practice in their entire careers was
• 24:26
  fourteen pounds in one day, which is why they're eating like hogs when they're
• 24:33
  not at the Novocare compl or maybe when they are at the Novocare Complex or
• 24:37
  whatever or wherever Travis Kelsey eats at. But it was amazing, Like the
• 24:41
  stories they tell about inside football are really really good, and that's that's the
• 24:48
  aspect of that show and the insight those guys bring because they're super likable and
• 24:52
  funny, yeah, entertaining, but they can also bring that like the stuff
• 24:57
  that you and I would never know about. We love sports, Yeah,
• 25:00
  exactly is really cool. Like I said, once you add the element of
• 25:03
  reality TV, that's where I start to be like, I'll listen to the
• 25:07
  podcast, but that's about it. Yeah, everything else. I love how
• 25:10
  we're talking about the Kelsey's Now. People are probably like, oh my gosh,
• 25:14
  you assholes are talking about them. There you go, let us know
• 25:18
  what you're thinking about our report cards? Did we get it right? Philadelphia
• 25:22
  Sports Table at gmail dot com. We'd love to read your email here on
• 25:25
  the show and respond to it. Now, Eric, let's get into some
• 25:27
  more detailed discussion about this Philadelphia Phillies team again clinching that top spot in the
• 25:33
  wild card and they're they're gonna be in this NL race heading to the postseason
• 25:40
  now. And like we said a few minutes ago, when we were talking
• 25:42
  about the Phillies, and I really wanted to bring up John Middleton because how
• 25:48
  many years were we saying, you know this guy, this freaking cheap skat,
• 25:51
  he doesn't want to spend any money. Oh my gosh, he's a
• 25:55
  detriment to this team. And then a few years ago he said a phrase
• 26:00
  to decide to spend some stupid money and we were all like, all right,
• 26:03
  what is he talking about? Here? And now here in twenty twenty
• 26:07
  three, reflecting on that, I have to say we need to give credit
• 26:11
  to John Middleton for actually deciding to pull the plug in. Yes, folks,
• 26:15
  I do know it's easy. It's easy to spend money. You've got
• 26:17
  millions upon millions upon millions of dollars. Yes, I guess it's easy to
• 26:19
  spend it. However, making the decision to do so really help put this
• 26:23
  Phillies team where they're at today, where they were at last year as well,
• 26:29
  that magic that was the World Series team and can they get back to
• 26:33
  it this year. I don't think we would be talking this way if John
• 26:37
  Middleton didn't decide, as you know, one of the main owners of this
• 26:41
  team, that you know what, Yeah, we're going to be spending some
• 26:44
  big money. We're gonna be going after some free agents. Bryce Harper's contract
• 26:48
  worth every freaking penny, every single penny, the free agents, whether it's
• 26:55
  Kyle Schwarbert, Nick Castiano's coming in the development within the farm system as well,
• 27:00
  and the investments that the Phillies organization has made in the farm system with
• 27:03
  new development coaches. We're seeing, we're seeing guys like Bryson Stott coming up.
• 27:08
  Alec Bohm, the type of season he had. I know, my
• 27:11
  friend Ben Silver, who we had on a few weeks ago talking about the
• 27:15
  Phillies, wasn't necessarily the biggest Alec Bohm fan, but I certainly still am
• 27:19
  because I think he's developed pretty damn well defensively, He's born and bred in
• 27:26
  the system here, and I think the investments that John Middleton has made Eric
• 27:30
  over the course of these past few years, we're seeing, we're seeing how
• 27:33
  the money was spent coming to fruition. And it's not just spending money.
• 27:37
  Spending money. We've seen how teams have done. The Dodgers have done that
• 27:41
  for how many years? And look, I mean, yes, they usually
• 27:45
  get to the postseason, but where has it really gotten them and what has
• 27:49
  it done for their fan base as well? So I gotta give some props
• 27:53
  to John Middleton as we're talking about the Phillies heading into this postseason here,
• 27:57
  he deserves a lot of props. And that terms stupid money can go two
• 28:00
  ways and go like I'm going to spend a ship ton of money. Yeah,
• 28:03
  I can be stupid or you spend it stupidly, and you and you
• 28:08
  pay the wrong players and you make the wrong free agent signings right and I
• 28:14
  maybe people were a little like confused by what he said. Looking back,
• 28:18
  it makes it makes sense, like he's like, I'm going to spend a
• 28:21
  shit ton of money, but I need I need to get the right people
• 28:23
  in here and make get the right GM, which he did for this particular
• 28:26
  team. I'm the biggest Dombrowski fan. You go through his history, not
• 28:30
  the best moves, but for teams that are veteran teams like this, he's
• 28:34
  he's always been pretty solid at building on an aging team that is still it
• 28:41
  can kind of win now mode, but they've also kind of remained young.
• 28:45
  I'm not sure what he doesn't like about Alec Bohm. Ben's you say,
• 28:48
  Ben Silver, I'm yeah, I'm a fan. Like he can play first
• 28:52
  and third, he's versatile, yes, versatile, and he's one of the
• 28:56
  few young guys you have right now on the team. I'm a huge fan
• 29:00
  that they have arms, like they have depth. You know, you don't
• 29:03
  necessarily need that in the playoffs. You really got to hope Nola Wheeler and
• 29:07
  Walker and maybe Lorenzen is kind of tailed off at the end of the season
• 29:12
  here, but yeah, a little bit. But they but they have depth,
• 29:18
  they have a good bullpen, and they have they have all the elements
• 29:21
  to make a run. And I like, like I said earlier, the
• 29:26
  Braves are going to be extremely formidable. But that's they beat them last year,
• 29:30
  right, And if you just get hot, if Nola and Wheeler get
• 29:33
  going again, it's completely possible. And thank thank god we're in this situation
• 29:38
  because just think back a few years ago, this team, you know,
• 29:41
  before Milton decided to spend stupid money, you know it, they were not
• 29:48
  likable and they sucked and they were they were just as if they felt just
• 29:53
  as like lost in direction list to me as the Flyers are now. Yeah,
• 29:59
  Like there was a point where was like, am I going to see
• 30:02
  this team in the playoffs before I'm like fifty years old? Like holy hell,
• 30:04
  like what is this team doing? Like it? And it was like
• 30:07
  we talked about Ruben Tomorrow earlier and he he made some awful moves that killed
• 30:14
  off that oh eight run that probably should have won another title, and they
• 30:18
  were in no man's land for I mean, how long were the Phillies in
• 30:19
  No Man's Land. Eight years raced. Yeah, it was awful and just
• 30:25
  to have this team now we're actually going you know what, if we get
• 30:27
  in, we got a shot to go to the World Series again. Like
• 30:30
  and and that's legit talk. That's not two idiots who don't know, Like
• 30:33
  you're just pie. You know, I'm the sky. But with the Pine,
• 30:37
  this guy, I'm cliched out like you don't. I don't know my
• 30:40
  cliches. No, you got him, buddy, I know you do.
• 30:45
  But you know, And I can't say enough about the owner doing what he
• 30:48
  did and bringing in the right people. So absolutely, Philadelphia Sports Table at
• 30:52
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• 30:56
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• 31:00
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• 31:48
  back in just a bit. All right, we are back and Eric,
• 31:52
  let's take a look at what this Philadelphia seventy six ers team may look like.
• 31:56
  It's especially from the bench stand point, because I was actually looking at
• 32:00
  the roster recently and I was thinking to myself, I'm like, hold on,
• 32:05
  did they have a pretty deep bench here? I'm thinking to myself,
• 32:07
  I'm like, all right, the Anthony Melton, who's who started and closed
• 32:13
  a lot of games for the Sixers last season, is probably gonna have that
• 32:16
  role of a sixth man when when the main guys on the team are healthy.
• 32:22
  Patrick Beverly, he's coming to Philly here with his trademark, you know,
• 32:27
  defensive prowess as well, Paul Reid, as we know, is going
• 32:30
  to be coming in for Joel Embiid every now and again. Mo Bomba,
• 32:37
  you know, I mean he could also give Philly more you know, grunt
• 32:39
  and size while having that modern skill set as well. So I don't know,
• 32:45
  I'm thinking this is a this is kind of a deep bench here and
• 32:50
  it hopefully it is going to serve them well this season. Yeah, probably
• 32:54
  won't. I mean, I'll be honest, I'm not. I'm not.
• 32:59
  I'm not with you the positive one in it really tried, dude, I
• 33:02
  don't know if you saw it in the outline. I tried. I actually
• 33:07
  was like, you know what, let's try to get some positivity going with
• 33:09
  the Sixers team. Listen. I went through the roster and I'm just like
• 33:15
  Mo Bamba, such a disappointment for what supposed to be Patrick Beverley's thirty five
• 33:22
  not not my favorite guy in the league. I mean, PJ Tucker is
• 33:28
  another year always thirty eight years old. I know, I almost forgot about
• 33:31
  I forgot to mention p J Tucker. Yes, I mean who does he
• 33:35
  cover if they if they play the Bucks in the playoffs? Now, Like,
• 33:37
  who the hell does PJ Tucker. I don't know. It's just not
• 33:43
  Dwayne Deadman. They a bunch of centers, Montrese hair all, Danny Green's
• 33:46
  back. Yeah, you know, great h Daniel House who was nothing last
• 33:52
  year. D'Anthony Melton. I like him a lot, not not a great
• 33:55
  player. Kelly Ubrey actually not a bad son. He kind of like him.
• 33:59
  I was gonna say we got to mention him. He would he was
• 34:00
  just signed like yesterday. I think. Yeah. And this is a team
• 34:05
  that this roster right now is constructed. Like with Nick Nurses, the coach
• 34:09
  probably went a first round. No way they get past a second round.
• 34:13
  This is this is a second round defeat big time. Once again. The
• 34:17
  key is you gotta get you gotta get moved off. James Harden. There's
• 34:22
  just no way we can talk about the Dame thing today. That happened today
• 34:25
  real quick. Such a downer because this is a win now team. Like
• 34:31
  the process thing is just way overdone, and they should have made some sort
• 34:37
  of move to try and get Dame here because you got maybe two years left
• 34:39
  with Embid. You know, I got a two year window here, and
• 34:44
  why not go after a guy who's got probably two amazing years left in him
• 34:47
  has never played with a player like Embiid, Like the two of them would
• 34:52
  probably played really well together. Pick and roll defensively, could be struggle,
• 34:57
  but he's you wouldn't need him, like you just getting shootouts with the other
• 35:00
  teams. And if you could somehow get him, if you could somehow got
• 35:05
  him and got rid of Harden and kept MAXI somehow like something, because I
• 35:08
  don't know, if you saw what the Blazers got, it wasn't impressive.
• 35:12
  I mean it, Deandreton was probably the nicest piece and Drew Holiday and then
• 35:16
  but here's the one, here's the one silver lining that Drew Holliday is now
• 35:20
  completely on the open market. And when the players aren't going to keep him,
• 35:25
  he was just throw in yeah, they're gonna flip him from for more
• 35:30
  assets, which is smart because why they already drafted Scoot Henderson and you have
• 35:34
  some other guards there in Portland. This now like opens up very nicely at
• 35:39
  a good window for Drew Holliday to return to Philadelphia. And if you guy,
• 35:44
  you can move hard into the Clippers some kind of three way deal where
• 35:46
  where the Blazers get picks future six Ers picks which you're probably really valid,
• 35:52
  valuable, like three four years when we when we start to if this doesn't
• 35:54
  work out and uh and beads and with the knicks and we're going like twenty
• 36:00
  five and whatever like this, those picks could be actually huge. So a
• 36:05
  combo of Drew Holiday, Maxi, and Embed with maybe one other piece here,
• 36:10
  like another wing or something that's a little more interesting, like you actually
• 36:15
  you can actually let Maxie just score and Drew Holliday be the defensive guard,
• 36:19
  where with Harden and Harden and Maxie you're just you're You're dead at defense.
• 36:22
  You have no no shot at the guard spot. Undefensively. Again, it's
• 36:27
  all about James Harden. We know that. That's that's what it all comes
• 36:30
  down to. And I told you before we hit the record button that you
• 36:35
  know, I was just like I was just kind of disenchanted with Dame going
• 36:38
  to the box, thinking, man, there are that much better now.
• 36:40
  That team is going to be so good this year, and thinking to myself,
• 36:46
  man, if we could have had him, what could have been?
• 36:50
  And then we're talking about Drew Holiday possibly and I'm like, yeah, but
• 36:52
  does that even get us out of the second round? And you had a
• 36:55
  good point. You made a really good point by saying, you know what,
• 36:59
  I'd rather there have the opportunity to do so than to be where we're
• 37:02
  currently at right now. Because where we're currently at right now with the you
• 37:07
  know, big fat jerk off. You know, you know, we're not
• 37:10
  gonna we're not gonna get out of the first round probably, you know.
• 37:14
  So like it's it's I don't know, it's it goes back to the it
• 37:17
  goes back to my C grade, r C grade that we gave the Sixers.
• 37:22
  At this point, it's just this middling type of nothing going on right
• 37:27
  now. And you know what, if Drew Holiday comes here, then fine,
• 37:30
  it's gonna be it would be interesting to see, for sure. And
• 37:31
  that's at least when I want to see with this Sixer season, at least
• 37:35
  something a little interesting. Yeah, And just I mean from a likability standpoint,
• 37:39
  he's so much more likable. And I mean, he hit one of
• 37:43
  his best seasons last year. He made the All Defensive team once again,
• 37:45
  fifth time in his career. Nineteen points, five rebounds, eight assists.
• 37:50
  Like, he's still really damn good. And I know he's thirty three,
• 37:52
  but so is James Harden And which which which career trajectory would you want?
• 37:59
  Right through? It takes care of himself and he plays good defense and can
• 38:01
  still shoot, and god knows what the hell James Harden's going to be in
• 38:06
  two seasons. So if you can somehow, the only downside is when that
• 38:09
  move happened. I think no one thought true Holiday was going to be available,
• 38:14
  but now he definitely is. And there's probably more than I mean,
• 38:16
  I'm sure the heat are involved. I'm sure any any contending team would want
• 38:21
  him on their roster. So if you can somehow, you're gonna have to
• 38:24
  give up something to get him. And if you can somehow move Harden onto
• 38:29
  another like if he wants to be on the Clippers, fine, whatever the
• 38:31
  hell you can to do to make that happen, make it happen. And
• 38:36
  if you can get Holiday out of the deal somehow, then freaking do it
• 38:38
  and trade away future picks, because this is it. You got like two
• 38:40
  years left. Absolutely, if it's three team deal, if it's a four
• 38:44
  team deal, you gotta do it. You just have to do it.
• 38:46
  I don't think i've ever like I've seen it on video games, but I
• 38:52
  don't think i've ever seen a four team deal in actual life, they look
• 38:55
  fun like get it done, Daryl, you think, I know, when
• 38:58
  you're on the trade machine, it's funny, you just throw all these teams
• 39:00
  in, But right it never Actually the three team deals are kind of unique,
• 39:05
  and I was kind of surprised to hear this one. Were you surprised,
• 39:08
  like like where some of the players went, Like yeah, like like
• 39:13
  the Blazers didn't didn't get what I thought they should have gotten in exactly what
• 39:16
  was the other team? Oh, the Suns got Like I thought they got
• 39:21
  kind of shit in that deal. I know they're trying to shed salary to
• 39:24
  save money because all they have those three players there now, But I was
• 39:28
  I after the Bucks. The Bucks destroyed that trade, like they put themselves
• 39:32
  right back in contender mode, And I thought the other two teams actually got
• 39:36
  cut got a little worse. Ye Like the Suns don't have a great bench,
• 39:39
  so I don't know. I That's why it made me sad that that's
• 39:43
  that was the trade, because I'm like, couldn't the Sixers have done something
• 39:45
  in that trade to get Dame Yea? The Sons get like Grayson Allen Nasir,
• 39:51
  little Johnson. I think yeah, like, and I know they have
• 39:57
  to get cheap bench players because they have you know who, they have,
• 40:00
  the three quote superstars. But I didn't like and I don't and I don't
• 40:05
  know. I just I looked at it, and I'm like, I guess
• 40:06
  the Blazers were just like, this is the best we're going to get.
• 40:09
  I would have waited, maybe waited a little bit, but I don't know.
• 40:14
  It was a weird trade. You don't know what was going on behind
• 40:15
  the scenes. We just don't know, do you know what I mean?
• 40:17
  And you're right, that might have been just the best they might have been
• 40:20
  in their offices saying, holy shit, guys, you know this is this
• 40:22
  is the best we're gonna get right here. We gotta pull the plug up.
• 40:25
  There's there's already rumors on on X or Twitter or whatever that can call
• 40:30
  it X again. I'm gonna kill you. I know that the Bucks were
• 40:34
  tampering a little bit already, yeah, in the off season, but I
• 40:37
  you know who the hell knows? The NBA tampers all the time. They're
• 40:42
  the worst league at it by far. They decide who they're going to punish
• 40:45
  just because they don't like a certain team. Well, that that in free
• 40:49
  agency, Like at twelve oh one, so and so signed with the Songs.
• 40:52
  You're like, how can you sign a contract ten seconds in defeat if
• 40:55
  you weren't talking early, It's like it's possible, all right, Well,
• 41:02
  it's it's a C grade for this team right now. God, it's so
• 41:07
  freaking frustrating that nothing's happened right now. It's not gonna happen to October.
• 41:10
  Probably, yeah. And what sucks is like, even if they get Drew
• 41:15
  Holiday and move on from Harden, you're still at like a B. Yeah.
• 41:21
  Are you better than the Bucks? Are you better than the Celtics?
• 41:22
  Probably not? Like you can see some of these teams that have gotten Actually
• 41:27
  some of these teams have gotten to the finals the past couple of seasons.
• 41:30
  You're like, you know what, they were playing some B grade level ball
• 41:35
  and you thought the rosters were B grade level as well, and look where
• 41:39
  it got them, do you know what I mean? Well, and for
• 41:43
  you to make the finals and B for three straight rounds has to be like
• 41:50
  all world forty points a game, twenty rebounds, yeah, with the roster,
• 41:53
  Wade is yeah, and can he possibly do that? Probably not?
• 41:58
  Like, yeah, that's like eighteen to twenty games solid where he has to
• 42:02
  perform and not not a not pull a Donovan McNabb Warren Burner game because he's
• 42:08
  he's got those in him. He gets that look on his face and he's
• 42:12
  kind of drooping down the court. You're like, oh shit, yeah,
• 42:14
  he's tired, he's not into this, and it's it's mean, the only
• 42:17
  one the only thing it's worse is when James Harden just stop shooting. Yeah,
• 42:22
  like in this Celtics series, Like that's that is that is that is
• 42:25
  McNab warren Burner times ten because you know you're in trouble, like he's not
• 42:30
  going to give you anything. So I love the McNab warren Burner thing.
• 42:34
  So it's so and and the best part is like you didn't even have to
• 42:38
  like look at his face because the chin strap was always hanging. Yes,
• 42:43
  he walked onto the field with the chin strap hanging. You're like, oh,
• 42:45
  warm burner game coming exactly. We're gonna see five warm burners. Yeah
• 42:51
  in this corner, six warm burners, two interceptions, fumble, you know
• 42:54
  a bad game is coming. Yeah. All right, well, let's on
• 43:00
  to our final topic here before I let you go Eric, just to get
• 43:06
  into some quick NFL talk here, because it's been a weird NFL season I
• 43:08
  think so far. Look, the Cowboys lose to the Cardinals this past week,
• 43:14
  a Cardinals team that was supposed to be quote tanking. They actually look
• 43:17
  like they're fighting. They actually look like they give a shit about their season,
• 43:22
  about their team. You know, as much as I cannot stand how
• 43:28
  Jonathan Gannon left this Philadelphia Eagles team and organization, like I said, I'm
• 43:31
  not saying I said it on Twitter, I'm not saying anything bad about him
• 43:36
  for the rest of September because they beat the or the Cowboys. You have
• 43:39
  the Dolphins that are absolutely dominating and their quarterbacks the MVP frontrunner at this point,
• 43:45
  the Jaguars the up and coming team, and the AFC they end up
• 43:50
  losing to the freaking Texans. The Giants are an absolute offensive disaster at this
• 43:55
  point. Dude, It's a really weird NFL season. It's it's it's been
• 44:00
  pretty bizarre, and it leads me to believe something that I've said a number
• 44:04
  of times over the years on this podcast is that I don't know, perhaps
• 44:07
  the talent is leveling out a little bit I'm gonna talk to our friend of
• 44:10
  the show, Chip Kagi from the All About the Birds podcast. He's gonna
• 44:15
  be joining us in a bit. I'm gonna ask him a little bit about
• 44:16
  that as well. But I think that I think the talent across the league
• 44:22
  may actually be kind of leveling itself out. Eric, It's just it's a
• 44:24
  really weird season. Maybe it has to deal with the preseason where a lot
• 44:29
  of these starters are not playing, but then again, you take a look
• 44:31
  at Tua and what he's doing in Miami. It's just I think it's been
• 44:35
  a weird season. I think it's you know, when you manage people,
• 44:40
  there's there's always this right even teaching, you know, there's always this curve,
• 44:45
  like the Bell curve. Yeah, where you're twenty percent at the top,
• 44:49
  twenty at the bottom, and then you got your your middle like sixty
• 44:51
  percent. And I feel like the NFL is like ten eighty and ten right
• 44:55
  now, or maybe even twenty at the bottom. Like you've got some really
• 44:59
  good team at the top, but it's not in many of them. Like
• 45:01
  I would not put many teams as as being contenders outside of like the obvious
• 45:07
  ones, you know, I mean our prediction of Bengals Eagles right now for
• 45:12
  the Super Bowls? Holy hell? Oh but that's not good. I mean,
• 45:16
  but then you know, but I mean, how many teams do you
• 45:20
  say are our contenders right now? Four? Maybe four? Maybe four?
• 45:22
  How it's looking right now, and it's it's etaly. We're heading into week
• 45:25
  four here, it's early, but yeah, like maybe four, maybe five
• 45:30
  perhaps, But I mean the Eagles are one of those, one of those
• 45:32
  four or five definitely. But look, do I think that my I'll say
• 45:37
  this right now, Do I think Miami is gonna be able to sustain this
• 45:39
  type of success that they have. No. I think they're gonna lose some
• 45:43
  games. They're gonna end up getting a little bit of the injury bug and
• 45:45
  how that affects various aspects of the offense or defense wherever that injury does end
• 45:50
  up coming from. Because it's gonna happen with every team. I mean,
• 45:52
  we saw it with the Eagles in Week two. They lost a bunch of
• 45:54
  their guys in the secondary. It affected them. They still ended up winning
• 45:59
  the game because they're a damn good team. But it's it's it seems like
• 46:04
  a lot of teams still have a lot of rust on them that they're trying
• 46:06
  to get off. Well, I'll start here. The bottom of the trash
• 46:12
  heat is horrendous, like the Bears the world badly, the Bears, the
• 46:19
  Broncos losing by fifty, The Giants are awful. Like, there's some really
• 46:23
  bad teams, dude, And I think the Panthers are there right there with
• 46:28
  them, like, and they're already looking like do we take the wrong quarterback?
• 46:30
  I can't believe how small that guy looks out there. I know the
• 46:32
  storyline was like, oh he's tiny, maybe we don't take him first.
• 46:36
  Overall, he looks scared and small. The one game I watched to him
• 46:40
  like wow, did they maybe pick? And then he's watched c J.
• 46:43
  Stroud for the Texans. You're like, maybe they made the right pick because
• 46:46
  I don't know. I'm just I'm thinking, like the worst teams and like
• 46:50
  where are they going to go from there? But the middle is really fat.
• 46:53
  There's a lot of teams in they're just like I don't I don't see
• 46:55
  it. The Chargers, maybe the Lions, we Jared Goff really, you
• 47:00
  know, the Saints are a weird team. The Raiders are weird. There's
• 47:05
  just a lot of weird teams. That's what I mean. It's a weird
• 47:07
  season. Yeah. And and I as far as the Dolphins go, I'll
• 47:12
  say this like, I think they're definitely in the mix because I like I
• 47:15
  like Michael Michael Lombardi's podcast. I've always liked his analysis and football yeah or
• 47:22
  former GM, so obviously he's won some rings. But he made a really
• 47:24
  good point though on his recent podcast that the Dolphins are doing something incredible and
• 47:30
  how fast not just how fast the team is, but how fast the plays
• 47:34
  are and how fast Tua gets the ball out because like they're they're coach who's
• 47:38
  really damn smart. I'll give him credit. He's really pop, really pompous,
• 47:43
  cocky dude. But I I like the way he calls his offenses like
• 47:46
  he sees what he has. He doesn't have a great offensive line, and
• 47:49
  two was very injury prone. We saw the concussions last year. And he
• 47:52
  decided he's gonna have the ball out of his hand within two seconds. I'm
• 47:57
  not gonna allow the offensive line to get him hit. And I'm not gonna
• 47:59
  allow to make a dumb decision holding the ball for five or six seconds.
• 48:02
  Yeah, Either getting concussed or throwing an interception. He's like, I had
• 48:07
  the fastest team in the league. I'm going to call the plays even faster.
• 48:09
  And I was like, that sounds so simple, But how hard is
• 48:14
  that to do? Because you have to have these tight you have to have
• 48:16
  the type of athletes and play calling in place. And yeah, I heard
• 48:20
  that in Lembar. I was like, Wow, that's really smart. Man.
• 48:22
  I never It's like, I don't I've ever seen an offense like this
• 48:27
  before. Yeah, I don't think we have. Actually, I mean I
• 48:29
  go back to I think it was during our Eagles season preview podcast that we
• 48:32
  did Eric where we were talking about, you know, maybe who we would
• 48:37
  like to rather have in terms of the wide receiver corps, who maybe the
• 48:39
  better wide receiver corps would it be. I remember we talked about specifically the
• 48:44
  Dolphins and then the Eagles and I and I said, you know, the
• 48:46
  Eagles because you had a J Brown who was just a big, large guy
• 48:51
  out there who's going to be able to go up to the catch point bring
• 48:54
  that ball down, and we've seen him do it a number of times throughout
• 48:58
  his career. And then you have the speed with DeVante Smith and I said,
• 49:01
  because down down in Miami, they've jail and Waddle, they have Tyreek
• 49:07
  Hill. It's all speed. And I said, I'd rather have a combination
• 49:10
  of both, and I'm not. I'm still there. I'd rather have a
• 49:15
  combination of both. But you are seeing Mike McDaniels put together a system and
• 49:20
  the call, the play calling that you were talking about, Eric, where
• 49:23
  it is so fast that I don't think we've seen this before, the level
• 49:29
  of how fast the plays are called, coming in and just getting on.
• 49:32
  Like, I'm gonna be really interested to see at the end of this season
• 49:37
  how Miami if they're able to sustain a little bit of the play calling aspect
• 49:42
  of this, how quickly each play actually was because they do, they have
• 49:46
  to the speediest wide receivers in the entire league. And yes, where he
• 49:50
  most dirties what in he's thirty, in its thirties or whatever, and killed
• 49:54
  it this past week. I don't think he's gonna be able to sustain that
• 49:58
  type of success, but still it is. It is fascinating to see another
• 50:01
  aspect of professional football evolved and the Miami Dolphins are doing it. Yeah,
• 50:08
  I mean, I know, I said the same thing as you, I'd
• 50:10
  rather have Smith than Brown, but I mean kind of have to rethink it
• 50:15
  a little bit. I mean maybe, I mean maybe I see him.
• 50:16
  Amy is incredible. It is like it is and it's three games too.
• 50:20
  So that's why I said, let's wait till the end of the season.
• 50:22
  I really want to see It's gonna be really interesting to see that data and
• 50:24
  those numbers. I'm still I'm still still with a j and DeVante still with
• 50:30
  them right now, so my and and I just I don't know, I
• 50:34
  just it was really cool analysis to hear. And then you think about,
• 50:37
  like, Okay, well you know the Dolphins play the Eagles. Can can
• 50:42
  they get to to a fast enough right to to before he throws it to
• 50:45
  Tyreek Hills? This grace receiver in the league. I just it was.
• 50:51
  It was. It's an extremely weird season with a lot of a lot of
• 50:54
  strange storylines and that that being one of the most positive ones, and like
• 51:00
  the whole two of thing could have gone horribly wrong where he got concussed in
• 51:04
  the first week and his career is over. Yeah, as opposed to and
• 51:07
  this is like because there's so many storylines that went down the tubes I mean
• 51:10
  the Titans are atrocious. No, Aaron Rodgers, Yeah, Aaron Rodgers went
• 51:15
  down. The Bears and the Broncos are like two of the worst teams I've
• 51:17
  seen in history, Like they're really bad. Could not wait to see what
• 51:22
  both of those teams were actually going to do this season. I was really
• 51:23
  looking forward to it. I'm like, all right, how are they going
• 51:25
  to develop here? And it's been The Falcons should be probably three enough they
• 51:32
  had any sort of quarterback. That guy sucks. Yeah, the Vikings and
• 51:36
  Panthers are both thowing three. Who the hell is gonna who would watch any
• 51:39
  one second of that game? Yeah, that's a brandice And I mean they
• 51:44
  culture two and one, but what the hell's what the hell isn't matter there?
• 51:45
  And I just it's just good to have a couple of positive stories.
• 51:51
  And one of the best positive ones is that the Patriots are really shitty and
• 51:53
  the Cowboys lost and that they were they were the darling of the NFL for
• 52:00
  two weeks and then there their cornerbacks towards ACL they get housed by the Cardinals
• 52:05
  and now now and no one's talking about them. I could be happier.
• 52:07
  I know, same here, same here. That's a great way to end
• 52:10
  this segment before we go into our break. Let us know what you're thinking
• 52:15
  about this NFL season Philadelphia Sports Table at gmail dot com. We will read
• 52:19
  your email here on the show, will respond to it. We'd love to
• 52:22
  hear from you, folks, and Eric, Buddy, I'm gonna let you
• 52:23
  go. You have any last thoughts before we head out here. No,
• 52:27
  I've jibber jabbered along a long Oh my god, I just looked out at
• 52:30
  the time. I thought, I swear to god, I thought we were
• 52:34
  recording for like our regular time of like maybe forty minutes or something like that.
• 52:37
  Nope, holy cow, it's incredible. Well, and thank I did
• 52:42
  not complaining about it, because that used to They used to be a big
• 52:44
  one for you. I know, I used to think, Yeah, I
• 52:47
  know who cares, right exactly. Yes, all right, buddy, I'll
• 52:52
  let you go. Folks. Remember to follow Eric on Twitter at brick Polite.
• 52:57
  And we're gonna take a quick break. We will be back. Got
• 53:00
  Philadelphia Eagles talk coming your way. Stick around. All right, we are
• 53:05
  back. Let's get into some Philadelphia Eagles talk. Where this team is heading,
• 53:09
  what we've been seeing from them, as well as they're going to be
• 53:13
  facing the Washington Commanders this weekend. It's what we're throwing down on the table
• 53:17
  and now on the table. It is great to have back on the podcast.
• 53:23
  Always love talking to him and you can hear a lot of his great
• 53:27
  content over at All about the Birds. That great podcast. I've been on
• 53:30
  a number of times and it's fun. The guys are fun over there,
• 53:35
  and you can follow them on Twitter at Chip for the Birds. We've got
• 53:38
  our friend Chip Kaye. How you doing, buddy? What's going on,
• 53:42
  Jeff? Thanks for having me on. Nice to talk about some three and
• 53:45
  no Eagles over here. I love it. I love it, and I
• 53:46
  love the fact too. Before we get into like the topics that I sent
• 53:50
  you that, we want to get into the fact that fifty nine approximately I
• 53:53
  think from what I read about fifty nine percent of Raymond James Stadium yesterday for
• 53:57
  Monday Night football, we're Eagles fans. Incredible, man, Incredible. How
• 54:00
  this team's fan base travels, How we love the team that much, you
• 54:05
  know, it just amazes me. And we know that we know this team
• 54:09
  travels very well, that most away games turn into primarily home games. But
• 54:15
  I guess it was the Christmas colors of it all, the red versus the
• 54:20
  green where it was so drastic. I mean, you saw the Buccaneers trying
• 54:23
  to pull up their little sign and Eagles fans preventing them. You know,
• 54:27
  when the game was clearly out of hand. You saw Raymond James emptying out
• 54:30
  and it was being Eagles fans. You saw newscasts where they were saying,
• 54:35
  oh, he thought Eagles fans were annoying before you know, what did the
• 54:37
  Eagles do right? Everything? What did the Buccaneers do wrong? Everything?
• 54:39
  I mean, it was just this team has such a positivity around it.
• 54:44
  Now before we get in all that, did you catch because I've been struggling
• 54:47
  with this now for I guess twelve hours, almost twenty four hours. They
• 54:51
  definitely said that it's the first time that they're gone three and zero, right,
• 54:54
  he said this little statistic wrong at the end of the year. Oh,
• 54:58
  absolutely, And that's not at the end of the game. I think
• 54:59
  he I was trying to say it was the first time they've been three and
• 55:00
  oh since ninety two ninety three, But I'm like they were eight and oh
• 55:04
  last year. So I don't know what cool aid you drank all night at
• 55:07
  Raymond James, but it was the wrong cool aid exactly. And I think
• 55:09
  they also went three and it didn't They also go three and oh or maybe
• 55:13
  I'm thinking two and oh back in two thousand, two thousand and two,
• 55:15
  because I think over the past like thirty years, it's been three times,
• 55:19
  and then this year and last year were one or two of those times.
• 55:22
  I think. I mean, it just it goes to the narrative of they
• 55:27
  don't understand enough about this team because it's not one of the sexy teams in
• 55:32
  the NFL. Like with the one Drive when you had Kenny Gainwell running the
• 55:37
  ball and they kept saying Andre Swift it's gonna be over two hundred yards today,
• 55:38
  I'm like, that's Kenny gin Yes. I just think because they're not
• 55:44
  the Chiefs there, not the forty nine ers, they're not the cowboys,
• 55:45
  they don't do there, they don't do their business of making sure they understand
• 55:49
  this team. I felt. I still, for some reason, I canceled
• 55:52
  my athletic for subscription. I did. I'm like, you know what,
• 55:55
  they have no sixers writer, no flyers writer, I'm canceling it. So
• 56:00
  I but somehow I'm still getting access to the articles anyway. I read the
• 56:05
  power rankings. Eagles are not a top three. They're not a top three.
• 56:07
  They're they're They're four. It's like the Dolphins, then forty nine Ers,
• 56:14
  then the Chiefs, who are two and one, by the way,
• 56:16
  and then the Eagles. No, the Chiefs lost a game. The disrespect
• 56:20
  is incredible. The Chiefs lost the game and haven't really played anybody since.
• 56:24
  I guess you know what, it worked really well for us in twenty and
• 56:29
  eighteen. No one likes us, we don't care underdog mentality. Let's go
• 56:30
  for it again. There you go, there you go. Look all right,
• 56:32
  well, let's get into some of these topics. I wanted to really
• 56:36
  talk with you about here, Chip. You know, I don't know about
• 56:38
  you, but I'm happy. I'm happy here about how this Eagle season is
• 56:42
  really progressing. And I think we're seeing so many moving dynamics within the league
• 56:46
  itself where the talent is really kind of leveling itself out. You know,
• 56:51
  my my co host Eric and I we were talking before about the fact that,
• 56:53
  I mean the Giants are just putrid on offense. I mean, you
• 56:58
  have the Dolphins honestly a surprise. We thought that would be pretty good,
• 57:00
  but I mean a perennial MVP into a tuck of myloa. You also have
• 57:06
  the Jaguars losing to the Texans, and like, it's a lot of weird
• 57:09
  stuff is going on, a lot of surprises throughout the league just after three
• 57:14
  weeks, and I do wonder what we should make of the narrative that the
• 57:17
  Eagles team, despite being three and Ozer, isn't quite living up the certain
• 57:22
  a certain level and certain expectations this season thus far. It kind of bothers
• 57:28
  me a little bit when I see that narrative, especially amongst fans within Eagles
• 57:32
  Nation. I don't know what are your thoughts on that, because I think
• 57:35
  it's a pretty good season so far. So I think there's a lot to
• 57:37
  break down in this in this first topic. So the first thing is that
• 57:40
  the NFL has been very weird this season. Yes, I mean it just
• 57:45
  has been. You know, my wife and I we do are our NFL
• 57:46
  pick them every week and it's just been a weird season. You mentioned a
• 57:52
  couple of games that went the way that we weren't really sure about that other
• 57:54
  teams are kind of performing the way that many thought that they would, but
• 58:00
  the hypes around like the Bears, people were saying that Justin Fields is better
• 58:04
  than Jalen Hurts, and Justin Fields, unfortunately, isn't going to do well
• 58:07
  because you know, they invented the forward pass in the nineteen hundreds, so
• 58:12
  that's gonna be problematic for him. You know the fact that Josh Dobbs has
• 58:14
  led the Cardinals to be a competitive team when everything is saying they had no
• 58:17
  interest in being a competitive team this year, even with the hiring of Jonathan
• 58:22
  Gannon, with the Rams doing their everything that they could to put together a
• 58:25
  mediocre roster and again being competitive. So I don't know if it's so much
• 58:30
  that the talent is evening out or it's tough because I look at this Eagles
• 58:37
  team and again, on paper, I think the reason why the narrative is
• 58:39
  the way it is is because on paper, this Eagles team was supposed to
• 58:43
  be blowing teams out, much like the Dolphins did yesterday. They're supposed to
• 58:46
  be blowing out bad teams. You have got probably the best offensive and defensive
• 58:52
  line in football. I would argue that against anybody secondary, you know you're
• 58:59
  gonna be a little short linebackers should let everybody go. But offensively, we
• 59:02
  should in theory be scoring forty forty five points a game, and it just
• 59:06
  hasn't clicked yet. So then you got to kind of look into the y.
• 59:09
  You've got new coordinators, you've got first time coordinators. Yeah, you've
• 59:14
  got an offensive line that had played together for years. You know, Isaac
• 59:19
  sale Malu left. You know, Cam Jurgen's is kind of learning a new
• 59:22
  spot. Landon Dickerson has really had to step into the starting role. I
• 59:24
  think there's still a lot of pieces you entirely replace a running back room.
• 59:29
  You know, you're still trying to get Dallas Goddard to be the guy,
• 59:31
  and he's maybe the fifth or sixth best option on the team. Yeah,
• 59:36
  offensively, I mean I think that you know, you look at week one,
• 59:42
  and week one is what it is. It is bad football because there's
• 59:45
  something to be said about playing your starters during the preseason. Absolutely, we
• 59:50
  talked about him on this podcast. Yep, yep, Yeah, have to
• 59:52
  at least for a drive. It's got I mean, and then and then
• 59:55
  they'll hit you back with, oh, well, the joint practices. You
• 59:59
  cannot simulate live game action. You just can't so Week one look detrocious.
• 1:00:05
  I'm pretty sure all three of the Eagles games have been played in the rain.
• 1:00:09
  That is true. Yeah, there's a factor in that. There's been
• 1:00:12
  a weather factor. And again I'm not trying to make excuses, but this
• 1:00:15
  team is definitely not to lift up. And you look at some of the
• 1:00:16
  other things, and you know, I know we're gonna, you know,
• 1:00:19
  discuss Jalen Hurts a little bit. Next up. I think you saw it
• 1:00:23
  in the preseason with the backups. I think you saw quarterbacks holding onto the
• 1:00:28
  ball entirely too long, and I think you're seeing a continuation of that.
• 1:00:30
  So it's almost my concern is there's such a narrative around Jalen Hurts becoming a
• 1:00:34
  pocket passer that he's doing the Donovan mcnabbrow, which is he's got a pass
• 1:00:37
  before he's allowed to run. Yeah, it's interesting you mentioned McNabb changed his
• 1:00:43
  game. Yeah, it's interesting you mentioned donovanman that he really looked like McNabb
• 1:00:45
  yesterday. In fact, some of my buddies were actually saying that in our
• 1:00:49
  text thread. You know, we're sitting there watching the game text and we're
• 1:00:52
  like, man, he's looking like McNabb right here in that development of Hurts,
• 1:00:55
  and it's a really good segue into what we're really seeing from him him
• 1:01:00
  because his play on the field this year, I don't think it's terrible by
• 1:01:04
  any stretch of the imagination. And as I was saying on our postgame show
• 1:01:07
  yesterday, he's a quarterback that continues to make elite plays. He is making
• 1:01:12
  elite plays, folks. But the turnovers, yes, they are a new
• 1:01:15
  development here this season. And he was very calculated last season. This year
• 1:01:20
  it's been more of a reckless type of play from him, trying to force
• 1:01:23
  the ball into certain defensive situations that he's facing. How do you assess Jalen
• 1:01:29
  Hurts so far this season based on kind of what you were just what you
• 1:01:31
  were just saying. So, I think again, part of the situation is
• 1:01:37
  the reason why people are going well. This team isn't playing well enough yet.
• 1:01:39
  Why Jalen Hurts isn't playing well enough yet is due to the expectations surrounding
• 1:01:44
  this team going into the season. The expectation is the Eagles are a super
• 1:01:47
  Bowl caliber team. Jalen Hurts is an MVP caliber quarterback. You look at
• 1:01:52
  all the quarterbacks who are in that MVP caliber. Burrows has looked terrible.
• 1:01:58
  Yeah, Homes hasn't look great. Josh Allen hasn't looked great. Trevor Lawrence
• 1:02:01
  hasn't looked great. Tua has played out of his mind, but he's kind
• 1:02:06
  of played along the level of what we all expected Jalen Hurts to do.
• 1:02:08
  So people are looking at going, well, if Tuah, who's not a
• 1:02:12
  fantastic quarterback, is making all these great plays and he even have Jalen Waddle
• 1:02:15
  on Sunday and they put up seventy points. Yeah, tell me why Jalen
• 1:02:20
  Hurts in a year where he's returning his two top wide receivers, his tight
• 1:02:23
  end, his offensive line is struggling. And I think it goes a lot
• 1:02:28
  to the new relationship with the play calling. I think that Brian Johnson is
• 1:02:31
  still trying to figure out what exactly he wants to do as a play caller,
• 1:02:36
  and I think the person who is taking the biggest brunt of that is
• 1:02:38
  Jalen Hurts. Because Jalen Hurts wants to go out and he wants to go
• 1:02:42
  and make plays. I think he's being told, hey, settle through your
• 1:02:45
  reads a little bit try and make those throws look for the passes, which
• 1:02:50
  again I don't hate the idea of developing as a passer. But while you
• 1:02:54
  say elite plays, and that's true, he does put some absolute great throws
• 1:02:58
  and he makes great runs. I am more excited about Jalen Hurts the winning
• 1:03:02
  quarterback. Yeah yeah, I don't care if he puts up MVP numbers.
• 1:03:08
  I just don't. I don't care if he rushes for fifty yards because he
• 1:03:12
  runs the push push twenty times, right, I don't care do they win
• 1:03:15
  the game. And that's the same thing that he echoed last week. Since
• 1:03:19
  when is winning not enough? And it's that mentality. It's gonna push Jalen
• 1:03:23
  Hurts to that elite level. Absolutely. I think that's a great point too,
• 1:03:27
  because you again, the elite plays are there, you know, I
• 1:03:31
  mean, my god, the touchdown throws a CAUs was a freaking beautiful It
• 1:03:37
  was incredible. I think, folks, we need to start calming down a
• 1:03:40
  little bit here with regard to this team. There are three and all,
• 1:03:45
  for the love of all that is good and holy, folks, let's start
• 1:03:47
  calming it down just a little bit. Okay, So all right, let's
• 1:03:52
  move along here every single year, the majority of Eagles fans and the fan
• 1:03:55
  base to get annoyed when Howie Roseman decides to kind in trade on the trenches
• 1:04:00
  during early rounds of the NFL draft, Chip, and especially the first round.
• 1:04:05
  But you know what, we are seeing what Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter
• 1:04:09
  are creating in terms of the foundations of the defensive line's future here, and
• 1:04:14
  it's just amazing to watch. And then on the opposite side of the ball
• 1:04:17
  you mentioned Landon Dickerson, Cam Jurgens, we're seeing them helping to lay the
• 1:04:23
  foundation of the future as well from an offensive perspective. In the trenches,
• 1:04:28
  we're seeing the trenches are where football games are won. And the Eagles have
• 1:04:32
  certainly not just figured it out, but they've honed in on it and it's
• 1:04:35
  their bread and butter. So when you reflect on previous drafts, Chip and
• 1:04:40
  how the Eagles are constructed year after year, how would you assess how this
• 1:04:45
  Eagle's front office here has become just a staple of team building year after year.
• 1:04:50
  It's amazing to see. I think if you look back just a few
• 1:04:55
  seasons ago, when everyone was calling for Howie Roseman's head on a spike.
• 1:04:59
  Myself include it same here. It was it was a team with no direction,
• 1:05:02
  and as it turns out, it was actually due to the fact that
• 1:05:06
  guys like Chip Kelly and even Doug Peterson wanted to go a different way with
• 1:05:12
  how teams were developed. The times that this team has been its most successful
• 1:05:15
  are when they build in the trenches. You saw with Andy Reid and the
• 1:05:19
  development of that franchise, and then they what they did is you win games
• 1:05:26
  in the trenches. So Nick Sirianni, who is I'm going to pick the
• 1:05:30
  best player available at all times, has found these players and again, Howie
• 1:05:34
  Roseman builds the roster. Nick Sirianni said that at his first press conference,
• 1:05:40
  Howie builds the roster. I make sure that the players can play. Yeah.
• 1:05:43
  Now, it just so happens that Georgia Bulldogs keep falling into our our
• 1:05:47
  lap, which I'm okay with because they're a professional program that I'm pretty sure
• 1:05:53
  could beat the Giants right now. The Giants are dreadful, and I just
• 1:05:56
  had to take a giant shot in that I had people telling me that they
• 1:05:58
  were going to win the division, and no, they're not. No,
• 1:06:00
  they're not. But that's why listen, I did a four I did a
• 1:06:05
  NFC East table pod and delusions were were magnificent. But again it goes back
• 1:06:14
  to the idea of it's not sexy. Right, everybody wants it to be
• 1:06:17
  an offensive game where you're putting up seventy points. Joe Burrows is a really
• 1:06:25
  good example of when you don't have a great offensive line. Because he doesn't,
• 1:06:30
  it's very difficult to get the ball to Jamar Chase and to Te Higgins
• 1:06:33
  and Tyler Boyd and Joe Mixon because you're fearing for your life. I think
• 1:06:40
  you saw that a lot with with Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield had Mike Evans
• 1:06:44
  last night, he had Chris Godwin last night. He had guys that you
• 1:06:45
  could throw the ball too. He just couldn't throw the ball, right.
• 1:06:49
  I think that when you look at and art, our strength is running the
• 1:06:55
  football. It is not sexy. It's just not. But again, does
• 1:07:00
  it win football games? Absolutely? Our defense, Our defense is sexy.
• 1:07:04
  Yeah. Absolutely. We may not have that one T. J. Watt
• 1:07:08
  type player, that Aaron Donald type player, that Micah Parsons type player,
• 1:07:13
  that it is the entire defense. But when you neutralize those guys, those
• 1:07:16
  defenses are beatable. So what do you have. You have a Jalen Carter.
• 1:07:19
  Jalen Carter is going to be come one of those players, but you
• 1:07:23
  also have a Fletcher Cox and a Brandon Graham, and a Josh Sweat and
• 1:07:25
  a Derek Barnett and and the list goes on. The front seven of this
• 1:07:30
  team is violent, yes, and it is beautiful. That is sexy,
• 1:07:35
  absolutely it is. And I think too when you're building through the trenches like
• 1:07:39
  the Eagles and Howie Roseman have done, it creates more versatility on both sides
• 1:07:45
  of the ball, and that's inevitably what you want. Like you said,
• 1:07:47
  the run game, it's not the sexiest thing in the world. It's not
• 1:07:50
  as sexy as AJ Brown going up grabbing a pass and grabbing a catch at
• 1:07:56
  the catch point. It's not that sexy. But it allows for versus because
• 1:08:00
  at the end of the day, a J. Brown is gonna get those
• 1:08:03
  catches. He's gonna have a good, great season like he had last year.
• 1:08:05
  DeVante Smith is gonna have a great season like he did last year.
• 1:08:09
  And they're also gonna be able to run on the ground too. That offensive
• 1:08:11
  line and the defensive line building in the trenches allows for versatility, and that's
• 1:08:16
  where the league is going. And I think the Eagles really are at the
• 1:08:19
  forefront of that chip and I think that you see it a lot because of
• 1:08:25
  Jeff's Helen. Right. Yeah, So I think a really phenomenal couple of
• 1:08:30
  things to point out when it comes to our offensive line is Number One,
• 1:08:31
  a guy like Jason Kelsey and I I, of course, you know,
• 1:08:33
  I couldn't wait to watch Eagles football yesterday, so I watched the Kelsey documentary
• 1:08:39
  for the first time. I'm like crying like a baby. I'm like,
• 1:08:41
  how is it only new? And I still have to have hours. But
• 1:08:44
  Jason Kelsey's not gonna come back if he's not in a safe space. Lane
• 1:08:46
  Johnson's not gonna come back if he's not in a safe space. The fact
• 1:08:48
  that they turned Jordan my Lotta into an All Pro tackle, it's incredible.
• 1:08:53
  He's incredible. The fact that Andre Dillard, a first round pick lost out
• 1:08:58
  to Jordan my Lotta, signed to the Titans, I believe and has looked
• 1:09:03
  terrible. Yeah, goes to show you that it's happening in house. Yep,
• 1:09:08
  it is happening. In house. Isaac Salamalu, an incredible guard has
• 1:09:13
  looked just okay. They can't run the ball in Pittsburgh. Yep, yep,
• 1:09:16
  you know you see it. Holliplui valley by tie right over in Detroit,
• 1:09:23
  same thing. Jeff Stoutland is the key to that team, and it
• 1:09:25
  does not go. It does not get brought up enough that he is the
• 1:09:30
  best coach position coach in football, hands down, barn I absolutely, hands
• 1:09:35
  down for sure. Again, folks talking to Chip Kegi from the All About
• 1:09:42
  the Birds podcast. They are on YouTube. I listened on Apple podcasts.
• 1:09:45
  Is well, great, great times over there, and let's move over to
• 1:09:49
  the defense, because defensively, Chip, I can still see how we're making
• 1:09:54
  a move, perhaps at the safety position. I think in terms and you
• 1:09:58
  mentioned it earlier, in terms of the best back end of the secondary.
• 1:10:01
  There's still a lot of not just question marks, but guys that just need
• 1:10:04
  to develop. Yes, read blanket Ships having quite a nice season so far,
• 1:10:09
  but I'm not comfortable with this depth here, especially with the injuries we
• 1:10:14
  saw yesterday to Sidney Brown and Evans as well. I believe he was injured
• 1:10:19
  two at one point in the game. Are you feeling the same way about
• 1:10:23
  the safety position. Do you think how he's gonna inevitably need to make a
• 1:10:25
  move there? So I actually feel the way about the entire secondary right now,
• 1:10:30
  I mean I do. I know that the safety position is obviously going
• 1:10:32
  to stand out. It was a weakness going into the season. Reblanket Ship
• 1:10:35
  has played phenomenal again in proof of another great draft pick and everything kind of
• 1:10:42
  going the way that it should. But when he missed a game, you
• 1:10:45
  also saw that the depth isn't there. So you look at the rest of
• 1:10:48
  this depth chart, right, Sidney Brown left or no, I'm sorry,
• 1:10:51
  Justin Evans left the game. The team felt that Terrell Edmonds was allegedly going
• 1:10:58
  to be a starter. He lost out jobs here and there. Sidney Brown,
• 1:11:00
  he's a good player, but you have four safeties on the roster.
• 1:11:02
  A Fonte Maddox at one point was a fifth safety, kind of a floater
• 1:11:05
  player. He's out for the years. So then you have to look at
• 1:11:08
  this entire team. When you move you're starting outside corner and James Bradberry to
• 1:11:13
  the slot because of a guy like Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, and you
• 1:11:16
  know what they're gonna bring and you leave Josh Job as your backup. You
• 1:11:20
  have a shortage, the fact that you know Keiley Ringo, he hasn't done
• 1:11:25
  anything yet, Marriel Goodrich, Eli Rix, these guys are young, but
• 1:11:29
  we just haven't seen what they have. And I think that we have the
• 1:11:31
  Dolphins coming up in a couple of weeks. It keeps going back to that
• 1:11:33
  game. For me, I'm not worried about losing a game to Baker Mayfield.
• 1:11:38
  I'm just not I'm not worried about losing a game to Daniel Jones.
• 1:11:41
  I'm not worried about but Tua, who hits weapons left and right, I'm
• 1:11:46
  worried about. You cannot rely on Bradberry and the side. You have to
• 1:11:49
  have him on the outside shutting somebody down, which means you're gonna need another
• 1:11:54
  slot corner and somebody who can kind of play corner and safety. Yeah,
• 1:12:00
  it's sad we don't have CJ. Gardner Johnson. It's sad, but he's
• 1:12:03
  hurt too. He is hurt, Yes, exactly. Versatility. I think
• 1:12:08
  one thing that really is amazing about this defense is the versatility. So you
• 1:12:11
  look at a guy like Nolan Smith and you can put him, you know,
• 1:12:13
  linebacker line. You know, you look at guys like Hassan reading.
• 1:12:15
  Can you put him at the ed rusher, edge rusher, You can put
• 1:12:17
  him at the lot, You can do all these things. But again,
• 1:12:21
  you do need just experienced bodies because you're planning on making a Super Bowl run,
• 1:12:29
  yep, which means unique guys that have been there before exactly. Just
• 1:12:33
  you just do. It's a great, great, great little segment right there.
• 1:12:40
  And the final segment of talking about the Eagles here is going to be
• 1:12:45
  special teams chip because I got I have to say it. It's just it
• 1:12:48
  has bothered me now for years and years where special teams have gone with this
• 1:12:53
  Philadelphia Eagles team. They were once a staple. And I talk about special
• 1:12:57
  teams a lot on this podcast because they are just so important terms of field
• 1:13:01
  position. And I know it's like it's like talking about the trenches. It's
• 1:13:04
  not sexy, but my godfield position is so important in this day and age
• 1:13:09
  in the game of professional football. And dare I say that Britain Covey is
• 1:13:13
  turning into a viable punt returner. Dare I say that actually, because holy
• 1:13:20
  cow, I actually saw a productive special teams unit yesterday in terms of the
• 1:13:25
  punt punt unit. I mean great to see that he was averaging twenty seven
• 1:13:29
  yards per punt return yesterday, mainly because of that fifty two yard return that
• 1:13:31
  he had in that game against the Bucks. But I'm wondering, like,
• 1:13:35
  what are your overall feelings on how special teams have performed over the past few
• 1:13:40
  weeks. And oh, by the way, aside from Justin Tucker, we
• 1:13:44
  got the best next best field goal kicker in the NFL in Jake Elliott.
• 1:13:47
  He's fantastic. So I don't know, I think I think maybe we're seeing
• 1:13:50
  special teams developing here. What are your thoughts on him? Yeah, so
• 1:13:54
  special teams is always a big deal for me because you can win or lose
• 1:13:57
  games depending on how your special teams play. You know, we know,
• 1:14:00
  you know we a couple of years ago against the Bucks in the playoffs,
• 1:14:02
  we lost a game because we couldn't punk the ball. Yeah, it just
• 1:14:05
  it happens. You you need your special teams to be able to play.
• 1:14:09
  I was, oh man since last season banging the drum about how Aaron Syplos
• 1:14:15
  is not the punter of this team. He can't. He is just not.
• 1:14:19
  He has some of the worst punts in football. And they kept bringing
• 1:14:24
  it back, and they kept bringing it back, and then you know,
• 1:14:26
  they didn't put any punter on the roster, and then they did the active
• 1:14:28
  called thing. And again I'm banging on the drums. Aaron Psypos can't be
• 1:14:30
  the guy just because he can hold the ball for Jake Elliott. Jake Elliott,
• 1:14:33
  because he is as great of a kicker as he is, kind of
• 1:14:38
  got to dictate what he wanted. You know what, I want Sypos as
• 1:14:41
  my holder. That's how I do best. So you better believe last night
• 1:14:44
  I was watching Brandon Man holding that ball and nothing was different. Nothing was
• 1:14:48
  Yeah, nothing different want because Jake Elliott is the best kicker in football.
• 1:14:54
  Justin Tucker might be the greatest kicker in the history of football, but he
• 1:14:58
  misses some chip shots. Now, his percentage is great. I look at
• 1:15:01
  it the same way with baseball, Right, you have to rotate things,
• 1:15:03
  right, so there's not an ace every year. You're gonna look at the
• 1:15:05
  top five guys and those are the aces for the year, and they don't
• 1:15:08
  just get to stay there. Jake Elliott is the best kicker in football.
• 1:15:12
  I love it. Jake Elliott is the best kicker in football. And that's
• 1:15:15
  how I feel about that. The special teams is finally clicking. And that
• 1:15:18
  was actually a point of concern because you had so many young guys and you're
• 1:15:21
  worry about coverages and you're losing guys like you know, Avante Maddox, and
• 1:15:26
  you're losing these guys that that can cover all day. You know you're you're
• 1:15:30
  cutting, but they're figuring it out. You know why, because you have
• 1:15:34
  to figure it out in this league. And Britain Covey went from being that
• 1:15:38
  every week call up to going, you know what, no, here's your
• 1:15:40
  spot on the active roster now again if he breaks one, amazing. I
• 1:15:45
  just need a sure handed receiver. And I think, again, being from
• 1:15:49
  Philadelphia, we're sported because we had the DeShawn Jackson's, the Brian Westbrooks,
• 1:15:54
  the Brian Mitchell's, the Rod Smarts and he hates me of the world.
• 1:15:59
  I mean, I think we're spoiled in that you're Reno Mahi's. But I
• 1:16:03
  can't stand watching Greg Wardfield anymore. Punch. I know it was so rough.
• 1:16:08
  I just can't. Covey is not an integral part of this offense.
• 1:16:13
  So if something heaven forbid, where to happen? It doesn't wreck the season,
• 1:16:17
  right, right, exactly, exactly, great way to look at it.
• 1:16:20
  So let's really quick talk about the NFC East here and the NFC in
• 1:16:25
  general too, Chip before I let you go here, because I gotta tell
• 1:16:29
  you the Cowboys and their fan base. Man, they had to take a
• 1:16:31
  seat, take a seat this past week after getting their socks knocked off by
• 1:16:36
  the Arizona Cardinals. And look, okay, we know this the Cowboys,
• 1:16:41
  they're a pretty good team. They are a pretty good team. But I
• 1:16:43
  think the Eagles are showing the league who's truly going to dominate, not only
• 1:16:46
  in the division but in the conference along with the San Francisco forty nine ers
• 1:16:50
  here. So I just want to get your quick thoughts and assessments on the
• 1:16:55
  NFC. How you see things shaken out early here? So opt the remomy.
• 1:17:00
  Where are we in the this is their year cycle? I know that
• 1:17:04
  it was. This is their year for the Cowboys, Yes, and then
• 1:17:06
  it's we beat some really good teams and then they lose a really bad game,
• 1:17:12
  and then they lose at some point and they missed the playoffs. So
• 1:17:15
  they barely make the playoffs and then they lose in the playoffs, right,
• 1:17:19
  So I just it's the yearly cycle. It's you know, you can almost
• 1:17:23
  watch it on VHS at this point along with their Super Bowl highlights. So
• 1:17:29
  I think that there's again the Cowboys. They always have their excuse. So
• 1:17:34
  before it was the fact that Kellen Moore was a terrible offensive coordinator, and
• 1:17:38
  he probably was. You know, it was maybe the fact they were trying
• 1:17:41
  to force feed Ezekiel Elliott the ball and Tony Poller was a better running back.
• 1:17:45
  And it was the fact that Dalton Schultz they did not replace Dalton Schultz,
• 1:17:48
  You're right, the fact that they went out and traded for a first
• 1:17:53
  round quarterback to back up their quarterback who's already disgruntled. Yeah, that's saying
• 1:17:58
  a little something. And I when you look at this Cowboys team, they
• 1:18:03
  always have an excuse. So this year the excuse will be, well,
• 1:18:08
  Trayvon Diggs isn't playing. Ah there, Yeah, who's who's gonna stop the
• 1:18:13
  Eagles receivers? You know, we went out and signed Stefan Gilmour so that
• 1:18:15
  there would be two guys to cover these two Eagles receivers. Okay, but
• 1:18:21
  he got Hurt and Michael Parsons is still a dominant player, but he's beating
• 1:18:26
  up on bad teams right now. Yeah, as as you should as you
• 1:18:29
  should be, but you're beating up on bad teams. And I think that
• 1:18:31
  when you look at the state of the overall the NFC, you know,
• 1:18:34
  it's a it's a two it's a two team race. It's the Eagles and
• 1:18:38
  the forty nine ers. Yes, I think it's been that way. I
• 1:18:42
  think that brock Purty is still very young and he's benefiting from the fact of
• 1:18:45
  he's got some guys that can do amazing things. You know, Christian McCaffrey
• 1:18:48
  when healthy is probably the most offensive weapon in he's the best offensive weapon of
• 1:18:55
  football. And then you pair with the Deebo Samuel. I mean, you've
• 1:18:57
  got some guys out there. You've got George Kittle, You've got some guys
• 1:18:59
  since just go. You've got a pretty good defense. But again, it's
• 1:19:03
  gonna tie down to can brought pretty to do the job. Jalen Hurt has
• 1:19:05
  already proven that he can do the job, and he's got all those weapons.
• 1:19:09
  So it's a two team race. You know, when you look at
• 1:19:11
  some of the other pretenders. I don't think that the Green Bay Packers are
• 1:19:15
  good enough. I think that Jordan Love is kind of forced himself to win
• 1:19:20
  a couple of games, but I don't think very much of him. I
• 1:19:24
  think that the Lions are a pretty good team, but Detroit is gonna Detroit.
• 1:19:28
  I think that they horribly miscalculated what DeAndre Swift is. Yeah, gibs
• 1:19:34
  wow. I think that the Bikings are owing three because Kirk Cousins is your
• 1:19:38
  quarterback and he's great at patting stats, but that's about it. And they
• 1:19:41
  have nobody on defense. The Commanders, the Giants, these are all teams
• 1:19:45
  that are not good football teams. The Saints, they're not a good football
• 1:19:49
  team. And they're getting Kamara back and that's great and all, but they're
• 1:19:54
  still not a good football team. And you know, now they're gonna be
• 1:19:56
  without Derek Carr weeks a week. And Jamis Winston's your guy again. Okay,
• 1:19:59
  I think that the Bucks are not I mean, you look at his
• 1:20:01
  two teams. It is the Eagles and it is the forty nine ers,
• 1:20:04
  and they one of those two teams will represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.
• 1:20:10
  Now that's what it's gonna be yep, absolutely again. Folks. Follow
• 1:20:15
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• 1:20:25
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• 1:20:28
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• 1:20:31
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• 1:20:33
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• 1:20:38
  his passion for this Philadelphia Eagles team. And yes I do. Yeah,
• 1:20:41
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• 1:20:45
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• 1:20:55
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• 1:21:00
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• 1:21:04
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• 1:21:09
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