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- 0:01Intergenerational trauma is trauma that didn't start with
- 0:05you. If you can look back at how you
- 0:07were raised by your caretakers, your mother, your father, and
- 0:12you can say, you know, as bad as I might have had it or as bad as
- 0:15some events were my mom, my dad, or my grandmother, whomever
- 0:20might have raised you, they had it worse.
- 0:22If you've heard the stories about their caretakers and what
- 0:26they had to deal with, and you can draw that line to the ideas,
- 0:30expectations, and behaviors and how you were raised and how they
- 0:35were raised, that is intergenerational trauma.
- 0:39So today we're going to unpack this subject and dive a little
- 0:43bit deeper to get a better understanding of how this may
- 0:46play out in our life and in our relationships.
- 0:50Now be sure and download our free trauma assessment as well
- 0:54as our couples guide to getting to the root of the problem.
- 0:59And if you want help in implementing any of these ideas,
- 1:02you can schedule a clarity call. And if it feels like we're a
- 1:05good fit, we can talk about how we might work together.
- 1:08Welcome to trauma free relationship.
- 1:10I'm your host, Tom Phil, and I've been working for years with
- 1:14adults who struggle with relational trauma to regain
- 1:17trust in themselves and others so that they can experience a
- 1:20safe and secure relationship. Let's get started, OK?
- 1:32As we mentioned in the beginning, we're going to talk
- 1:35today about intergenerational trauma.
- 1:38And one of the ways it's defined is trauma that did not start
- 1:42with you. Now, intergenerational trauma
- 1:45can be emotional, it can be relational trauma.
- 1:49It can be anything from physical, verbal, emotional
- 1:56abuse. It can also just be neglect.
- 2:01Sometimes the dynamics in our patterns and our, our, our
- 2:06family of origins growing up create patterns in how we were
- 2:11raised because it's passed down through the generations and this
- 2:16is not something that's conscious.
- 2:18So these patterns can be emotional reactions or patterns,
- 2:23They can be attachment style patterns.
- 2:26They can be coping strategy patterns, or they can be beliefs
- 2:31about what looks like safety and what looks like love.
- 2:37And so for example, an emotional pattern might be that you might
- 2:42have grown up in a family or the family prior to you, your
- 2:45parents family, maybe they didn't acknowledge sad things.
- 2:50You know, maybe, maybe there was an uncle that was an alcoholic,
- 2:53but that was never talked about. And growing up, there was this
- 2:57mysterious figure that was whispered about in corners but
- 3:01never really acknowledged. Maybe when somebody passed away,
- 3:05like maybe you had a sibling that passed away young and was
- 3:09never talked about. Or maybe you had a parent or
- 3:13grandparent that was married previously in a generation that
- 3:17that was really looked down upon and you only find that out way
- 3:21later in your adulthood. So there's some things that are
- 3:25never addressed. Now, I'm not a suggesting that
- 3:28families somehow should, you know, talk about that.
- 3:33It's sort of, you know, on the street corners and blast that
- 3:36out to the community. I'm not not talking about the
- 3:38opposite effect of that either, but I'm talking about being able
- 3:42to acknowledge some of these dark corners or black sheeps or
- 3:48these events that can be traumatizing.
- 3:52And yet somehow families don't acknowledge those whatsoever.
- 3:56Or, you know, they, they, there's a father or a
- 4:00grandfather who was an alcoholic.
- 4:02And that was, you know, the coping style around that was
- 4:05that everybody just sort of hid and scattered and became
- 4:08fiercely independent because it wasn't safe at home.
- 4:12And so that lack of safety at home gets passed down through
- 4:16the generations. The ideas about belief, you
- 4:19know, pull yourself up by your own bootstraps.
- 4:23That is a phrase that's very common.
- 4:25Pardon me here in the United States and there's this sort of
- 4:30Uber sense of independence like you shouldn't need help, you
- 4:35shouldn't need assistance when you get down.
- 4:37It's up to you to get up. And and it's it's weak to
- 4:42somehow reach for help for others.
- 4:45And that I think is a really dangerous and just flat out
- 4:50wrong colloquialism in in sort of the Western culture,
- 4:55especially here in the United States, that somehow your
- 4:58success is all done by you and your failure is all your fault
- 5:04as well. And so, you know, these are the
- 5:07kinds of patterns or beliefs that can can be passed down from
- 5:12generation to generation. Some more examples might be, you
- 5:16know, we don't talk about feelings.
- 5:18Boy, have I heard that a lot. You know, I'll have a couple
- 5:21sitting in front of me and, and one partner is like, you know,
- 5:23my, my and just just an example, my, my wife's family, you know,
- 5:27they, they're really great about talking about feelings and this
- 5:29and that. Man, growing up, we never talked
- 5:31about feelings. It's just feelings didn't exist.
- 5:34You know, if you got your feelings hurt, you know, you
- 5:36just had to suck it up and move on.
- 5:38That just was never part of the conversation.
- 5:41Or anger equals danger. You know, if somebody gets
- 5:47angry, then, you know, everybody scatters because that's
- 5:51dangerous and it's destructive. And you know, my grandpa, when
- 5:54he got angry, he destroyed things, he threw things, he hurt
- 5:58people. He and, and, and that was passed
- 6:01down to my dad and so on and so forth.
- 6:04Or another one is like, you know, love equals inconsistency
- 6:08or love means people abandoned you.
- 6:11People don't stay. And you can certainly see that
- 6:14one too, where you have these, these ruptures in families that
- 6:19are created down the line and, and ultimately results in the
- 6:24belief that that, well, you know, people don't stay,
- 6:27relationships are unstable. People ultimately are selfish
- 6:32and they're out for themselves and they don't sacrifice for one
- 6:35another. Some families, you can see the
- 6:38opposite effect. Some families are so insular
- 6:42that that all they acknowledge is family.
- 6:45Family can do no wrong. Family is, you know, blood is
- 6:49thicker than water and it's it's family against the rest of the
- 6:53world no matter what. And so, you know, little Timmy
- 6:57gets in trouble at school. Well, it's not Timmy's fault.
- 7:00It's the principal's fault or it's the system's fault or it's
- 7:05anybody but the family's fault because the family can do no
- 7:08wrong. The family is the end all be all
- 7:11of relationships. And it's, and it's a closed
- 7:14system, meaning there, there's nobody allowed into the family.
- 7:19It is really just the family itself.
- 7:22Even if there's certain people that have married in, they're
- 7:25still on the peripheral, they're still on the outside.
- 7:28So some families are so insular. They had this sort of closed
- 7:32system where you're either in the family and you're not.
- 7:35And if you're not, then you really don't matter.
- 7:38So there's all kinds of patterns that can show up that that look
- 7:44like intergenerational trauma. And certainly if we talk about
- 7:49insecure attachment styles, we're talking about some kind of
- 7:54intergenerational trauma here. Studies have been shown where
- 8:00somebody who comes from an insecure style of parenting, so
- 8:04say a woman who had a mother that was more avoidance style
- 8:10and attachment, raised her daughter.
- 8:13Now the daughter is pregnant with the child.
- 8:15How do you think she's going to be able to parent that child?
- 8:19She's probably going to parent that child in a more avoidant
- 8:23style. And so there's actual studies
- 8:25that have been shown where they gave the the pregnant daughter
- 8:30woman a piece of paper and asked her to draw a picture of her
- 8:34cuddling her child. And the picture came back with
- 8:38her arms extended as far out as they could be and the child in
- 8:43her hands, meaning the child was not cuddled close to her chest.
- 8:48It was not swaddled in any way. It was held out at a distance
- 8:52because the mother didn't know what that kind of closeness was
- 8:56like, didn't know what that what that possibility was to actually
- 9:00cradle and be so attuned to the baby's needs in those moments.
- 9:07And so there's real research that backs this up, that
- 9:10intergenerational trauma certainly can come down in
- 9:14attachment styles and it's ways of coping because, you know, our
- 9:20mother's mother was, was in a bad situation in their home and
- 9:26then pass those expectations and beliefs down and then eventually
- 9:30they trickle down to us. So, you know, the the anxious
- 9:34caregiver can can become the child becomes hyper vigilant or
- 9:40the shutdown caregiver, the child suppresses emotions or the
- 9:45unpredictable caregiver, the child scans for danger.
- 9:49And so these insecure styles can be passed along.
- 9:54And by the way, that doesn't mean that an avoidant ends up
- 9:57creating an avoidant that creates an avoidant.
- 10:00Our nervous system is more complex than that.
- 10:03So you might have a mother that's more avoidant style, but
- 10:05the daughter may end up being more anxious style.
- 10:09And so sometimes you can have those things switch depending on
- 10:14on the biology and the wiring of the individual and how the
- 10:18nervous system copes with that. They might cope in a more
- 10:21opposite type of direction. So pardon me, I've been sick
- 10:27recently. So my voice is a little bit a
- 10:30little bit strange. I apologize.
- 10:32So, you know, these these generational traumas that can
- 10:36come down to us, it's really important to recognize they
- 10:39didn't start with us. The ideas that we hold about
- 10:44love and safety, closeness and intimacy, power and influence
- 10:52and the ability to respect distance and autonomy are
- 10:57oftentimes intergenerational by the time they get to us.
- 11:02We don't just we don't come out of the womb a complete blank
- 11:06slate, what's called a tablo rasa, meaning a blank slate.
- 11:11We don't we're pre wired for needs.
- 11:13We're pre wired for attachment. And how we get that, how we get
- 11:18our needs meant continues to wire our brain, especially the
- 11:23first couple of years of life. And so when we're looking at,
- 11:28you know, intergenerational trauma here, we're looking at
- 11:32one family rules and what the child might learn.
- 11:36So for example, don't upset dad and the child might learn
- 11:41emotions are unsafe. I can't go to dad or mom and
- 11:46feel safe. I can't go and express my
- 11:49feelings because dad or mom can't tolerate it.
- 11:54And we certainly see this a lot. Another family rule is be
- 11:58strong, meaning vulnerability is unsafe.
- 12:02We just, we don't get vulnerable.
- 12:05We don't reach out in moments of fear or sadness and expect
- 12:10comfort. Vulnerability is not something
- 12:13we do. Keep the peace might be a family
- 12:17rule and that might come out as needs are unsafe.
- 12:22So you do whatever you have to do to keep the peace in the
- 12:26house. It doesn't matter what your
- 12:28needs are. You've have to focus on the
- 12:31needs of others. And then finally, you know,
- 12:34don't trust outsiders, right? The world is unsafe.
- 12:38Family or blood families, the only one that matters that I
- 12:44think certainly was something that was passed down.
- 12:48And so these ideas and expectations can be passed down
- 12:54in unconscious behaviors and an unconscious expectations of what
- 13:00relationships and family dynamics can look like.
- 13:05I did a podcast a while back talking about systems theory
- 13:09and, and this can definitely apply when we start talking
- 13:12about systems theory where the dynamic in your family, it
- 13:17creates A baseline for what is expected.
- 13:22And if you have a family member that tries to buck that
- 13:26expectation, then the system itself will push back really
- 13:31hard on that family member and try to get them to fall in line
- 13:36and meet the expectation of the family.
- 13:39And so you know that we, we have these sayings like the black
- 13:42sheep of the family. Well, the black sheep of the
- 13:45family could be a member of the family that that that maybe has
- 13:49fallen on hard times or always struggled with money or
- 13:53struggled with addiction of some kind.
- 13:55But it also could be the black sheep that was successful, but
- 13:59did it in a way that was outside of what the family deemed
- 14:06acceptable. So if you were in a family that
- 14:09are a bunch of blue collar workers and then all of a sudden
- 14:12there's one member that goes and become sort of like this
- 14:15capitalist, they might that family member might be looked
- 14:19down upon because then they might be seen as sort of a, a
- 14:22black sheep because they aren't the sort of, you know, frontline
- 14:27boots on the ground blue collar workers that has so defined what
- 14:31the family is and has built up a sense of pride in that family.
- 14:35And, and there can be many other examples, but you get the idea
- 14:39that, you know, bucking the system, being a black sheep
- 14:42isn't mean. You're always the bad person,
- 14:46but you can be made the bad person.
- 14:49Oftentimes in family therapy, you have somebody that's called
- 14:53the identified patient. And what will happen is you have
- 14:57the family will rally around one person who is holding the the at
- 15:04scene as the problem in the family.
- 15:06But in some ways, they are only a representative for the the
- 15:10problems of the larger system as a whole.
- 15:13So the family wants to gather around and say, oh, we need to
- 15:15focus on on Susie because she's a real problem.
- 15:19But part of what's happening is Susie is just a symptom of the
- 15:23larger system as a whole. And so it can be very disruptive
- 15:28for families to come to family therapy when the therapist
- 15:31starts to challenge the system as a whole and starts to try to
- 15:36help the rest of the family realize that maybe little Susie
- 15:40is just a symptom of the larger issues.
- 15:44Maybe the problem isn't always inside Little Susie.
- 15:48Maybe thus the problem is inside the system as a whole.
- 15:52So again, I'm I'm hoping I can illustrate a lot of different
- 15:55ways here that that intergenerational trauma can be
- 15:59passed down without us ever realizing what those ideas and
- 16:05expectations are. And we don't realize it because
- 16:09when we grow up in our family system were very insular,
- 16:13meaning that we don't want to know what it's like to be in a
- 16:16different family. We don't know what it's like to
- 16:19have different parents, different siblings that had
- 16:22different grandparents and different expectations.
- 16:25This is all we know. And so it's only when we start
- 16:29getting old enough, maybe into our later teenage years, where
- 16:33we might be able to begin to spend some more extended time
- 16:38with other family members and start to get a sense of other
- 16:42families dynamics, that we can then be able to look back at our
- 16:47family and go, oh, wow, that's kind of weird.
- 16:50Or maybe the other family feels weird and your family feels
- 16:52really normal. But you know, sometimes you look
- 16:55back and you go, oh, wow, my family.
- 16:57But that, that is really strange.
- 16:59That would never have happened. I remember years and years ago
- 17:04when I was a teenager, I was up at a lake house visiting a
- 17:08friend with his family. And they were big readers.
- 17:11And I didn't bring a book with me, but had some money and
- 17:15wanted to read a book. And so my friend and his dad
- 17:19jumped in the car and we were going to go around trying to
- 17:22find anything, a little 5 and dime or a bookstore.
- 17:25And this was kind of a remote lake house, so the chances
- 17:28weren't very big. But I remember this dad driving
- 17:30me around for what felt like an hour or two looking, trying
- 17:35different places, looking to see if there was some books that I
- 17:38could purchase and come back and read.
- 17:41And so one of the thoughts I had is, wow, my dad never would have
- 17:46done this. My dad was more impatient and he
- 17:50was more quick to anger. And I just remember how patient
- 17:53my friend's dad was. And I remember thinking that,
- 17:56wow, my dad never would have. I mean, he might have gone one
- 18:00place and then said, OK, well, they don't have it.
- 18:02We got to go back or whatever. But he never would have been so
- 18:05patient as my friend's dad was. And I just remember being able
- 18:09to make that kind of comparison. And so those are the kinds of
- 18:15things I'm talking about where we often don't recognize, you
- 18:20know, intergenerational trauma because we grow up and it's all
- 18:24we know. Our family dynamic, whatever
- 18:27that dynamic is, whether you're in a two parent household, a one
- 18:30parent household, whether you're raised by your grandparents, you
- 18:34know, it could be anything but, but whatever that looks like,
- 18:38it's all you know. And until you grow up and you
- 18:41start stepping out of that family system more, are you only
- 18:45able then to look back and to try to recognize, oh, OK, I can
- 18:51kind of see where there was some family expectations that served
- 18:55me well and there were some that didn't serve me very well.
- 19:00So when we start talking about intergenerational trauma, you
- 19:04know, we need to kind of be able to look back and pay attention
- 19:07to some of the signs. So how do you know if you have
- 19:10intergenerational trauma? How do you know if that's
- 19:13something that was passed down? Well, here's some here's some
- 19:16clues. First of all, from an emotional
- 19:19standpoint, where there are times where people overreacted
- 19:25to things, did did people explode and blow up over things
- 19:30that seem somewhat small? Did a dad or mom or grandmother
- 19:35who was raising you, were they unpredictable?
- 19:38Could they explode and you never quite knew what would set them
- 19:41off so they could get really triggered?
- 19:44And when they did, they completely went overboard with
- 19:47something that can certainly be some intergenerational trauma.
- 19:51Was there a numbness during conflict that happened?
- 19:56Did people shut down and and did people ignore each other for
- 20:02days or sometimes weeks at a time during conflict because the
- 20:07other person didn't feel heard or understood or didn't get
- 20:10their way? Was there a fear of being a
- 20:14burden in the family growing up? Was there ever any kind of
- 20:19repair? Was there always a lack of
- 20:21repair? Well, in my family, we would
- 20:23blow up at each other, but we never came back and talked about
- 20:26it. There were, there were never any
- 20:28apologies. There were, there were only
- 20:31punishments. And then even then it was more
- 20:35of a, you know, we just kind of went back and eventually we
- 20:39started talking to each other, but it was never revisited.
- 20:42And so these can be, you know, symptoms of intergenerational
- 20:46trauma from an emotional standpoint.
- 20:48What about a relational standpoint?
- 20:50Well, are, are, you know, are you attracted to emotionally
- 20:54unavailable people because you grew up with emotionally
- 20:57unavailable people and that actually feels normal to you.
- 21:03Is does conflict feel dangerous or does it conflict feel normal?
- 21:10It might be that your nervous system grew up with come some
- 21:14conflict and that actually feels normal in a relationship.
- 21:19And so sometimes you find yourself creating conflict where
- 21:23there couldn't or shouldn't be any because that's what your
- 21:27nervous system thrives on. And it's after the conflict that
- 21:31you begin to feel close and connected to your partner
- 21:35because maybe that's one of the only ways, you know, to begin to
- 21:38feel close and connected because vulnerability may not be an
- 21:42option. Coming to them with openness and
- 21:45vulnerability and seeking connection that way may not be
- 21:49an option. So how do you seek vulnerable
- 21:51connection? Will you create come some kind
- 21:54of an argument and then you come back and you repair and then you
- 21:57feel close and maybe you guys have great makeup sex or
- 21:59something like that. And that's how that's a system
- 22:03that, you know, that works with being able to create closeness.
- 22:09You know, do you people please automatically because that was
- 22:12your role in the family. So there's these relational
- 22:16roles that we can certainly fall into.
- 22:18What about identity beliefs? What about I'm too much my needs
- 22:24push people away. Love doesn't last.
- 22:28So you might have these core beliefs about yourself, and I've
- 22:32certainly seen these come about during times of couples that I'm
- 22:38working with where when we drill down and peel back some of those
- 22:42protective layers, what you find at the bedrock is some sense of,
- 22:47well, I'm too much for others. I've always been too much.
- 22:50I've always been told this and it's only a matter of time
- 22:53before they leave me. And so being able to understand
- 23:00that core belief that often can drive the behavior in a
- 23:04relationship because it's coming from some sense of how you see
- 23:08yourself, your identity. So how do we go about breaking
- 23:13the cycles? This is a really big question,
- 23:16more than we can just answer on this podcast alone.
- 23:20But I want to touch on a few things.
- 23:22I think first of all, breaking generational trauma means one,
- 23:27we have to recognize it. What kind of symptoms are we
- 23:33looking at that you're able to see in your relationship now
- 23:37that you might be able to tug on a string that goes back a
- 23:44generation or two that you can actually point to from past
- 23:51expectations, past dynamics in your family or your parents or
- 24:00caretakers family growing up? So a lot of what we just walked
- 24:03through are those kind of symptoms that can be passed down
- 24:07through generations. So breaking the generational
- 24:11trauma ones, we have to be able to sort of recognize it to once
- 24:16we recognize it, then we have to be able to try to give ourselves
- 24:21what we didn't get in the 1st place.
- 24:25So you know, if, if, if, if exploding in anger is something
- 24:30that's been passed down because it comes from a place of shame
- 24:34where you simply don't feel good enough, then you need to be able
- 24:39to figure out how do I, how do I have some self compassion so
- 24:45that my shame doesn't enter the conversation, It doesn't explode
- 24:50in anger, which is a secondary emotion in order to protect this
- 24:54sense of not being good enough. And how do I start to work on
- 24:58that within myself so that I don't pass this down to another
- 25:03generation? So being able to give yourself
- 25:07some kind of an experience and recognize what it is I need.
- 25:13And sometimes coaching programs, therapy can really help with
- 25:19this because part of what they can do is help you meet that
- 25:22need that was never met growing up.
- 25:25And when you do, when you get that need met, then a lot of
- 25:29that that protectiveness begins to fade away because you don't
- 25:34need the protectiveness. If our need is being met, then
- 25:39there's no need for a protection.
- 25:41It's only we, we only have protection around unmet needs
- 25:45because they hurt, their wounds, their traumas, they're painful.
- 25:50And so we erect our protections to protect us from re
- 25:54experiencing that kind of pain. And so if you start to give
- 25:58yourself those needs that are met, then you get to change and
- 26:05transform how you show up in your relationships and how you
- 26:09show up for yourself. Now maybe you've got the ability
- 26:13to be able to emotionally expand in ways that you've never been
- 26:17able to before. Now you've got the be able to
- 26:20ability to communicate. You know, I'm getting upset.
- 26:23I may need a moment. You know what, I feel hurt.
- 26:26That was very hurtful to me. Can you apologize for that?
- 26:29Or you know what, I respectfully disagree.
- 26:32Let's continue this conversation because I'm not sure we're on
- 26:35the same page or I'm not responsible for your emotions.
- 26:40I'm sorry you feel bad, but when I expressed my hurt, you don't
- 26:44get to weaponize that and use that against me.
- 26:47So all of these kinds of phrases come from a place where your
- 26:53your intergenerational wounds are beginning to heal because
- 26:58now you have not only the words, but the emotional capacity to be
- 27:03able to communicate and show up differently in your
- 27:07relationships. And so that takes a lot of work.
- 27:10I'm not suggesting it's like a light switch where you can just
- 27:12turn it on one day, but but doing that then allows you to
- 27:18not pass those intergenerational traumas down to the next
- 27:22generation. So let's be realistic.
- 27:25What changes in one generation? Well, some emotional reactivity
- 27:31can change in one generation. We can change how we parent our
- 27:36children. Maybe we can attune to them
- 27:39better. Maybe we can sit with some of
- 27:42their emotions that might be uncomfortable for us, but we can
- 27:47learn to do that in a way that our caretakers never could.
- 27:52Maybe we learn to work on our attachment styles so that if
- 27:56we're more avoidant, we can demonstrate to our children how
- 28:00we can reach out to others and how we can accept nurturance and
- 28:05care and not shut down. Or if we're anxious, how we can
- 28:10practice self soothing and how we can learn to not be flooded
- 28:15at the slightest sense of disconnection in our
- 28:21relationships. Or you know, how we can not
- 28:25carry the survival wiring, how we can learn to be safe in our
- 28:29own bodies so that we don't constantly feel unsafe, like
- 28:34they're the whole world is dangerous and and many others.
- 28:38You can add probably a list of your own in there as well.
- 28:41There, you know, there are there are things that can change
- 28:44within one generation to another.
- 28:47You know, something even as simple as my father was an
- 28:50alcoholic and so I don't drink. It's in my genes.
- 28:55I know it and I'm not going to do that.
- 28:58My father used to abuse me physically.
- 29:02I will never spank my kids. That is something that can
- 29:06absolutely be changed in one generation and and you should be
- 29:11able to be very, very proud of how you are changing that.
- 29:17And even if, even if it's just that you are at least able to
- 29:22change something significant, huge, significant change in one
- 29:29generation. So I know we talked a lot about
- 29:32what generation intergenerational trauma looks
- 29:34like here. Don't, don't get overwhelmed.
- 29:37Pick one thing, identify one thing and begin to work on that
- 29:42and begin to think this is something that I've always
- 29:45struggled with and I'm not going to pass this down to the next
- 29:50generation. Thank you so much for listening.
- 29:53As always. My name is Tom Phil, and I'm
- 29:55here to remind you to stay grounded, clear, and connect.