Latest / 10 Minute Murder | Bingeable True Crime Stories / Gacy
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- 0:25For many of us, watching horror movies and listening to true crime podcasts is
- 0:30the closest we will ever knowingly come to the killers living among us. But
- 0:35that wasn't the case for many young men in America during the nineteen sixties and
- 0:39nineteen seventies, and the killer they would meet was quite unlike any other.
- 0:45He was born in nineteen forty two Chicago. John Stanley, our serial killer's
- 0:50father was a mechanic and oh World War One veteran who often beat and verbally
- 0:56abused and tormented his son, a son who had become known as the infamous
- 1:02John Wayne Gacy. John later recalled that the beatings from his father started when
- 1:07he was only four years old. His mother, Marian, would often try
- 1:12to shield John from her husband, but that only made the beatings worse.
- 1:18John Stanley would often brate and belittle his son, calling him a sissy and
- 1:23a mama's boy for needing Marian's protection. The beatings became so bad and so
- 1:27frequent that John was perpetually afraid of getting into trouble, and that was why
- 1:33when a family friend began molesting John when he was only seven, John kept
- 1:38it to himself instead of telling his father, and John was always at risk
- 1:42of saying or doing the wrong thing. He wasn't like the other boys his
- 1:46age. He was softer, quieter, and enjoyed spending time with his mother
- 1:49and sisters. A congenital heart condition meant that he couldn't go out and play
- 1:55with the other children in the neighborhood or rough and tumble like the other boys
- 1:59liked to do. In his father's eyes, he was already a failure,
- 2:02and that was something that John didn't believe he would ever be able to fix.
- 2:07Things grew worse when John turned eleven and started experiencing blackouts and seizures.
- 2:13Doctors discovered that he also had a brain clot as well as the heart condition.
- 2:16They were able to treat the clot, but between treatments and other hospitalizations
- 2:21for a burst appendix, John had missed too much of school and ended up
- 2:27dropping out. Now around eighteen years old, he found work at a local
- 2:30political party office, something that his father also took issue with. Tensions grew
- 2:37between the two over John's work and ended up reaching the boiling point when a
- 2:42dispute over John's car led him to packing up his bags and moving to Las
- 2:46Vegas. There he found work as a mortuary assistant and slept in a cot
- 2:51behind the embalming room. And it was in Las Vegas that John would experience
- 2:55something so shocking it sent him all the way back to his abusive father.
- 3:01John had no questions about his sexuality from a young age. He'd figured out
- 3:07that he was more attracted to men than he was to women. But times
- 3:10being what they were, Openly being a homosexual wasn't going to win John any
- 3:15favors. He kept his orientation to himself and tried to suppress his desires,
- 3:21But when a teenage boy ended up on the embalming table on the other side
- 3:24of John's bedroom wall, John found the temptation too strong to ignore. In
- 3:30the middle of the night, when everyone else at the morticians had gone home,
- 3:35John snuck into the boy's coffin and laid down beside him. He spent
- 3:39the night intertwined with the teenager's remains, hugging and caressing him for as long
- 3:46as he could. The emotions that John experienced that night had him packing his
- 3:51bags and heading home the following day, maybe trying to distance himself from the
- 3:54memories as much as possible. John then enrolled into business and quickly struck up
- 4:00a new relationship. Her name was Marilyn Myers, and she provided John Wayne
- 4:05Gacy with the fresh start that he so desperately needed. Once they were married,
- 4:11Marylynd's father bought up three KFC restaurants in Waterloo, Iowa, and made
- 4:15John the manager. The cover of a loving wife, two young children,
- 4:19and running a successful business opened many doors for John and helped him put the
- 4:25past behind him. Allegedly, and according to John's own account, it was
- 4:30then that his parents came to visit and John Stanley had a change of heart.
- 4:34John Wayne Gaysey recalled that his father took him by the hand and said,
- 4:38quote, son, I was wrong about you. If true, John
- 4:43Stanley had plenty of reasons for believing that his son now had it all.
- 4:47He had the house, the family, and the business, and those around
- 4:50him believed that John was a well mannered and respectable man. But there was
- 4:55something brewing under the surface. It started with the people that John surrounded himself
- 5:00with. He was part of a local club for businessmen, supposedly to help
- 5:05grow and support each other and their business endeavors, but behind closed doors anything
- 5:11was possible. Their parties involved drugs, prostitutes, and even sometimes each other's
- 5:16wives, and they stirred up some feelings in John that he'd been so desperately
- 5:20trying to forget. John built a tiki bar in the basement of his family
- 5:26home. He and his wife Marilyn, hosted their own parties together, but
- 5:30John often invited the teenage boys he employed at his restaurants home as well.
- 5:35He lured them in with the promise of alcohol and entertainment, and on at
- 5:41least one occasion, things went too far. You have to have sex with
- 5:45a man before you start having sex with women, John told the fifteen year
- 5:48old son of a friend, Donald Vorhees. Wasn't quite sure if he believed
- 5:54him, but by then Donald was quite drunk and alone with John in the
- 5:58basement. Before Donald could fully understand what was happening, John was forcing him
- 6:03to perform oral sex on him. It took Donald a few months to work
- 6:08up the courage to tell his father what John had made him do that night,
- 6:11but when he did, he pulled back the curtain and revealed what was
- 6:15really going on inside John's home. By then John had quite a few more
- 6:19victims, all of them young boys, and most of them his employees.
- 6:25Furious and disgusted by the predator living among them, the Vorhetes took John to
- 6:30court. John first tried to deny the allegations, and then he tried to
- 6:34scare Donald off. He paid another teenager that worked at one of his restaurants
- 6:39three hundred dollars to beat up Donald Vorhees and convince him not to testify.
- 6:45Far from being deterred, Donald showed up in court with even more evidence against
- 6:49John, and John was sentenced to ten years in prison for his crimes.
- 6:55Instead of keeping his head low and flying under the radar, John used his
- 6:59time behind bars to become a model inmate. He organized to pay raise for
- 7:02the other inmates working in the prison, and even managed the installment of a
- 7:06mini golf course in the wreck yard. But then he was shaken by some
- 7:11shocking news. On Christmas Day nineteen sixty nine, John Stanley Gacy died,
- 7:17and when he heard the news, John Wayne Gacy supposedly hit the floor of
- 7:21his prison cell and started uncontrollably sobbing. He was denied compassionately to attend his
- 7:28father's funeral, but it didn't matter much. John served only about eighteen months
- 7:32of his tenure prison sentence before he was released on parole. Part of the
- 7:36conditions of his release was that he would be living with his mother. He
- 7:40couldn't return home because Marylyn had already divorced him and taken full custody of their
- 7:45children. John would never see any of them again. Within months of being
- 7:49released, John was accused of molesting and attempting to rape another teenage boy.
- 7:55The charges were dropped when the boy failed to show up in court, and
- 7:59John was then free to move into the yellow brick ranch in Chicago that he
- 8:03and his mother had just bought together. It was in this house that John
- 8:07would cement his legacy. He laid the foundations for what was to come by
- 8:11forming his own construction business and bringing a piece of his imagination into reality.
- 8:18During his short incarceration, John used to draw a character he called Pogo the
- 8:22Clown, and now that he was free to walk the streets again, John
- 8:26brought Pogo with him. He would often dress up and attend children's birthday parties
- 8:31and hospitals as Pogo the Clown, and for many in the neighborhood, John
- 8:37and Pogo were one and the same. Pogo provided John with a good sense
- 8:41of cover, but he sealed the deal by marrying again. He and his
- 8:46second wife, Carol Hoff, had once dated in high school, and now
- 8:50she and her two daughters from a previous marriage made John look like the perfectly
- 8:54harmless family man that he wanted people to think. He was used this image
- 8:58to lure young men into his garage. He promised them alcohol and porn and
- 9:05maybe even a summer job at his construction company, and then he abused them.
- 9:09Carol became suspicious of the number of young boys coming in and out of
- 9:13their home, and when John confessed to her that he was actually bisexual,
- 9:18it didn't come as much of a surprise. But what happened shortly after that,
- 9:22however, did. On Mother's Day nineteen seventy five, John climbed off
- 9:28of Carol and told her that that was the last time they were ever going
- 9:33to have sex. This startling proclamation and the constant stream of young men was
- 9:37enough for Carol to realize that something was deeply wrong with their marriage. Carol
- 9:43divorced John and got out just in time before things would take a turn that
- 9:48they would never come back from. The first and second had allegedly already occurred.
- 9:54John had supposedly mistakenly believed that one of the fifteen year old boys he
- 9:58had lured back to his yellow brick homeb had wanted to kill him. John
- 10:03acted quickly and without thinking. He killed the boy and stashed his body in
- 10:07the cross space of his home before anyone discovered what he had done. He
- 10:11allegedly did the same with one more victim before Carol divorced him and moved out.
- 10:16Carol leaving gave John a freedom he had never experienced before, and young
- 10:22men began disappearing from the neighborhood at an alarming rate. Most of these young
- 10:26men ended up murdered and hidden underneath John's home. He liked to torture and
- 10:31torment his victims. He sometimes pretended that he was about to perform a magic
- 10:35trick and handcuff their hands behind their backs. John wouldin dangled the keys in
- 10:41front of their faces and enjoy watching them struggle as they realized they were actually
- 10:46in grave danger. He also used to enjoy sitting on their chests and forcing
- 10:50them to perform oral sex on him. John was still a big man because
- 10:54his heart condition kept him from being very active, so these boys often could
- 11:00and breathe and suffocated underneath him. John would strangle and then revive them,
- 11:05sometimes even drown them in his bathtub before bringing them back and doing it all
- 11:09over again. And when they were gone, John would sometimes join the search
- 11:13parties going on in the neighborhood and pretend to look for them. But it
- 11:18was his thirty third and final official victim that John would be unable to escape
- 11:24from himself. Robert Piste had only walked into the pharmacy to talk to a
- 11:28man about a summer construction job when he disappeared. His mother, Elizabeth,
- 11:33was still sitting outside in the car, and had the police looking for her
- 11:37son within hours. John Wayne Gacy's construction company had recently renovated the pist family
- 11:43pharmacy, and the investigators quickly put the puzzle pieces together. They called John
- 11:48in for questioning, and though they didn't find any traces of Robert and John's
- 11:52home, they did find the receipt from the pharmacy for one of Robert's friends.
- 11:56There. One thing led to another, and John's stash of victims were
- 12:00pulled out from under his house. Robert's remains were found at a nearby river
- 12:05and cemented John Wayne Gacy's legacy as the killer Clown. He was sentenced to
- 12:09death for his crimes and his last meal was supposedly a bucket of Kentucky fried
- 12:16chicken. So that's ten minute Murder for today, brief and bingeable true crime.
- 12:31My name is Joe, I'm the host, and thank you for taking
- 12:35the time to listen to ten minute Murder and this story today. I don't
- 12:39know how we got it in the amount of time we got it done,
- 12:41and he's like eleven minutes or something like that. That's crazy. I did
- 12:45an episode on John Wayne Gacy probably two years ago. I don't remember exactly,
- 12:50but if you scroll back, there's going to be another episode of John
- 12:52Wayne Gacy and it's beefy. There's a lot to it. It's much much
- 12:56longer than the one today is. So if you like longer episodisodes, that's
- 13:00cool because there are several of them scattered in the in the you know,
- 13:03if you go back and search ten Minute Murders episode list, you'll find several
- 13:07of them there, including stories about Charles Manson, the Green River Killer,
- 13:13also Ted Bundy. There are several that I took time I used to do
- 13:16longer episodes every now and then. I don't do that so much anymore,
- 13:20but there was a time when I did longer episodes. So if you like
- 13:22those, there are some back there you can go check out. Anyway,
- 13:24Thank you for listening to this one. That's it. That's your episode for
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