Latest / Yeah Buddy! Podcast / Unveiling 'Tunnel Vision': An Inside Look with Abdul El Amin
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- 0:00Music.
- 0:59Yes, yes, yes, yes. What's going on, world? This is your man,
- 1:02Buddy Roming, and we are back at it with another episode of the Yeah, Buddy podcast.
- 1:09And this episode is like no other. You know me. I always like to bring my friends
- 1:12that work in the entertainment industry.
- 1:15Come on, bring them on, talk about our journeys in the entertainment business,
- 1:20whether it be movie making, whether it be doing stand-up comedy or whatever
- 1:23it is, their profession.
- 1:24And you know this episode is like no other
- 1:28y'all this episode i got my friend coming all the way from
- 1:31the bay area oakley california
- 1:34my guy abdul l amin he
- 1:37is a filmmaker he's not just a filmmaker he's a writer director
- 1:41producer actor man he is a do-it-all swiss army knife guy he has his movie out
- 1:48right now on tubi and on youtube and they're doing big numbers to do a big number
- 1:54the His movie is called Tunnel Vision, and he's going to get into that.
- 1:58And he also has another movie coming out next year on Tubi Vision, on Tubi and YouTube.
- 2:04It's going to be called Arrogate Losers. He's going to give you a little bit
- 2:07into that, too, a little insight on what he's got coming up for 2025.
- 2:10So, y'all, so without further ado, y'all make some round of applause for my
- 2:14good friend, Abdul El Amin.
- 2:18Yes, yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. How you doing, my God?
- 2:22Good. How you doing, bro? doing good man doing good man
- 2:25good to probably catch up with you chop it up last time i think we met it was
- 2:30at you was doing the whole promo tours for tunnel vision you know your movie
- 2:33that's out right now on on tubi and on youtube but before we get into that i
- 2:40want to talk about how we how kind of like how we first met because it kind
- 2:43of just it was just kind of like very like,
- 2:46happenstance because it's out there in the middle of middle of nowhere,
- 2:49So we're like in Humboldt County. I can't remember the exact city of it.
- 2:54Yeah, it was something like that. I can't remember the own city either. Yeah, I can't remember.
- 2:58It was one of those cities where you just, you know, if you was a black man,
- 3:00you was in there just to make some money. Ain't nothing.
- 3:03I ain't no living up in that, but we was in and out, gone.
- 3:07But I was doing a stand-up comedy show there. You was up at the bar and you
- 3:11was just talking about wanting to get into filmmaking and, you know,
- 3:15just like, yeah, that's what I will do.
- 3:17That's what I want to do and stuff all like that. so how did
- 3:20you get started in filmmaking what
- 3:23was your passion how did you just start to pick up the camera i
- 3:28want to say maybe 96 i grew up on other one so my oldest brother he's nine years
- 3:33old to me and he had moved out the house you know you know all my other siblings
- 3:37were still there but he used to come by the house and say i had his network
- 3:40it's like 96 and i got 10 brothers.
- 3:46And he would make them like a car and do kind of crazy shit.
- 3:49He didn't know what he was doing. He was just trying to make something work. That makes sense.
- 3:54But that's the first time I was like, in fact, forward to 99,
- 3:59E40 had a movie called Obstacles.
- 4:02Y'all never seen it. It was Obstacles with E40, Brown Hooks,
- 4:04D-Shot. Okay, yeah, yeah. I think I know what you're talking about. So my sister had me.
- 4:09I remember him coming to the house and he told me he was part of his film.
- 4:14This is like word of mouth, you didn't have to see it, just somebody,
- 4:18you know, and I was like, I actually know somebody in the movie,
- 4:22and when I came out, there was a certain person in the wrong neighborhood that was in that film.
- 4:26So then that's when I knew it was done, because before that,
- 4:30I was like, I ain't seen no celebrities come through the neighborhood,
- 4:33you know what I'm saying?
- 4:35So that came from, then my mother, she ran her, that was the same year,
- 4:40was it, 98, 99, she ran the camera for my arms, my renaissance,
- 4:45and then she was able to take it back,
- 4:48and I was picking the camera up, and I was taking it to school,
- 4:51so then she ended up paying it off, so that was like my introduction,
- 4:54to like, filming my friends, and then I shot a little movie, you know,
- 4:58just like that back, you know, I'm not in the hospital.
- 5:01Did you freeze up? No, I'm not.
- 5:06Okay okay cool so yeah so that's how you got started with picking
- 5:08up the camera and stuff all like that so let's flash forward
- 5:11now it's like when we first met it's 2018 2019
- 5:16ish something like that um yeah and you're talking about you were just talking
- 5:21about at the time this movie that you had you make it and stuff all like that
- 5:26tunnel vision how did the idea for tunnel vision it come about?
- 5:35Some certain things at that particular time in my personal life.
- 5:41So I was telling you, I had this little chippy statement, I married from Washington.
- 5:46So when I got on a plane, I was flying to Seattle, and I started writing my
- 5:51ideas down. That's how I started.
- 5:55Then I started to realize I had a whole story and had these pieces together.
- 6:00Yeah. So you didn't, like, you're not like a traditional, I guess it was to
- 6:05say, quote, a traditional filmmaker from the standpoint of going to people go
- 6:11to film school and stuff like that.
- 6:14What was the process like from you, from the film, just being an idea to now,
- 6:21okay, I'm trying to write out the script.
- 6:23Was writing something that was familiar to you, or was it something you just had to...
- 6:29Kind of yeah I said I said that one it was a,
- 6:34I can't remember exactly on the book, but he was like stripping for dinners,
- 6:39and had to look at it, and then, you know what I'm saying?
- 6:44I could pretty much, you put me in front of it, you know what I'm saying?
- 6:47I had to edit on my own, you know, I had to edit on my own.
- 6:51But as far as the story, it's just like, I had to just interview the other day when I watched it.
- 6:56They said, like, we'd be back in comedies. They said, if it's funny on paper,
- 7:00that's how you know it's going to be funny.
- 7:02Real life. So when I would read what I wrote, I had a story to tell.
- 7:07Then I just had to figure out how to get the other things in there.
- 7:11I just, mind all this amount, bro, and you can't work. Yeah.
- 7:15And so was it challenging for you? Like, trying to figure it out on your own?
- 7:22Yeah. Yeah. In that first film, it was like 8, 9, it was like a whole other country in that film.
- 7:28So it was like putting the bread together and the resources and all that stuff to make life.
- 7:34And then I was getting a lot of the boys outside of that.
- 7:39But the only people that really pop the female, you know what I'm saying? The female's a film.
- 7:45You know what I'm saying? But everything else is not his.
- 7:51Yeah, that was the next thing I wanted to get it to talk about.
- 7:54Let's talk about, I guess, the actual making of Tunnel Vist and stuff like that.
- 7:58First off, tell people what it's about.
- 8:00I don't want to say necessarily it's your life story, but it's a story that
- 8:02you've been through. Yeah, personal.
- 8:09Tell them. We didn't have a love slash hustle story. It's a black guy that was
- 8:13hustling. He got caught up in some BS.
- 8:16So now I've got to figure a way out to BS. But why? He was hustling.
- 8:19I plan to feel a good plan.
- 8:22Okay. and so with that like i said outside of the the negative input because
- 8:29that's always that that chitter chatter stuff like that one thing you had you
- 8:32had mentioned was that the the the women,
- 8:35was you know mostly supportive of you and stuff like that and that's one thing
- 8:38that i didn't notice when i was watching the movie that there was a lot of there
- 8:41was a lot of women a lot of beautiful women up there that that was just like
- 8:45throughout the movie yeah you know you had your partners every now and then
- 8:47but it just seemed like your main clientele throughout the movie was women.
- 8:50I want to know, was that something one, was it intentional or was that just
- 8:53how it happened to be to where like, you know, most of the people that was supporting
- 8:57the film from the start was just the women.
- 8:59You got men with more so that believers are not believers.
- 9:02That was the basis of the story. It's a guy.
- 9:07That just had an all-female clientele. And he had issues because of that thing
- 9:14that he couldn't even really see because he was so focused on,
- 9:18It's like, you know what I'm saying? Stuff that you really go through.
- 9:20You're so familiar. It's something you can't, you gotta try to black out.
- 9:24Black out there, but it's always still there. You know what I'm saying?
- 9:26That was really what the film was about.
- 9:28Yeah. Yeah. When I went back and like re-watched it, the whole idea,
- 9:33like with the tunnel vision and stuff like that, like, I got the,
- 9:37you know, the meaning of the title, stuff like that.
- 9:40But they like, when I go back and watch it, cause I'm all like,
- 9:42look, I'm like, yeah, he does have a whole lot of clientele,
- 9:45you know what I'm saying?
- 9:45But because I went back and watched some of the interviews that you did previously,
- 9:49too, you know, and I was all like, yeah, he does have like a lot of like female
- 9:53clientele, but it's not like these are women that he's sleeping with.
- 9:57You know what I'm saying? These are all strictly a business type of thing.
- 10:01And that's where like it goes back to the extreme, like, you know,
- 10:03like the tunnel vision, you know, so being able to have it to,
- 10:07you know, stick it to a goal, stick it to a goal in mind and not let another
- 10:11distractions get in your way. It's that discipline.
- 10:15Because they was there, man. Those extractions were certainly there,
- 10:17man. They were surely there, bro.
- 10:22That was the whole point, bro, to tell a story like that. Where it is...
- 10:27But it was a whole bunch of things in there that actually are on the streets again.
- 10:33Thanks for that. You understand how to see if you understand actually.
- 10:36That's what I fully understand what you got going on.
- 10:41Yeah, yeah. No, yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And then so,
- 10:45one thing you did do throughout making the process
- 10:48of like i said with you being like the filmmaker you being the producer dark
- 10:51you went to all these places because this place is it's tunnel vision movie
- 10:56it jumps to a couple of different locations even outside of california shoot
- 11:02even outside like i went the u.s or you went to germany i think it was yeah frankly yeah,
- 11:07so what was it like traveling to all these different places as like a filmmaker
- 11:12it's not like I'm going there to vacation or anything like that.
- 11:15I mean, of course, you're going to go through some sightseeing and stuff like
- 11:17that. It's like, I'm here now. I might as well.
- 11:19But, you know, you're there to make a movie. I got a job to do.
- 11:22So what was it like, you know, just that anticipation?
- 11:27Like, shit, I'm a filmmaker. Like, I'm literally traveling around the country,
- 11:30man, making a damn movie.
- 11:33It was fun. So, I never told this, but I got a little brother in a movie.
- 11:41And we got We had just went in a film, this is right after Nipsey died,
- 11:47it's like probably the weakest that he died, so we're going to go film this mural, it's him move.
- 11:51And we get into the car, right, he lead me on the freeway, right,
- 11:55he lead me on the freeway, right, so he lead, so now we're not from Southern California, right.
- 12:01And let me say that when we get to the Uber or something, whatever, to get the help.
- 12:06At this time, we're the same with the porn star, right? So, I was trying to
- 12:11get in the movie, I ain't gonna say her name, I'm saying.
- 12:14I was gonna get her in the movie, so, that night, I ended up going to the,
- 12:18she said, like, somewhere in Hollywood, I ended up going and hanging out with
- 12:21her, and then she gave me a lot of games, so,
- 12:24once I went to you, if I had some dopey chances, you know what I'm saying,
- 12:26even like when I was going through personal stuff, I was still having both moments
- 12:30so I was pretty nice that happened in Los Angeles.
- 12:35That's interesting and so of all the places that you did go to travel one I
- 12:41guess tell everybody all the places that you did travel which one did you think
- 12:44was probably your favorite,
- 12:49Sacramento, Los Angeles Seattle, Washington Phoenix, Arizona Atlanta,
- 12:55Georgia Baltimore I can't think of the name of that It's not Baltimore.
- 13:00It's like right by Baltimore. I can't see your name. I'm like, right.
- 13:04It's like one of the nicest cities in America. Memphis, Tennessee.
- 13:08I felt like something missing. Memphis, Tennessee. There's a lot of cities, bro.
- 13:12It was a lot of cities. I was like, I was like, that's what's up.
- 13:15And he went everywhere. Yeah, Franklin.
- 13:19It's my city then. Yeah. And which one was your favorite?
- 13:23I don't have one. I had fun. I had fun. I was saying. Everywhere, that's what's up.
- 13:29Because all the girls the same that the girl she was the one in there with me
- 13:36you know what I'm saying helping me film this in Seattle so I had fun bro you
- 13:41know what I'm saying I had a lot of pleasure,
- 13:44and so like I said it was it was a big cast a lot of people a lot of movie parts
- 13:49and stuff like that what was it like trying to,
- 13:52get these people on board to be a part of your movie did you do like some sort
- 13:57of cast a call or were a lot of these people are just people that you happen to have known?
- 14:01So for example, like, so that is.
- 14:05And I was just now trying to figure that I see these two girls,
- 14:10they've got a call, and I remember looking at them, I was like,
- 14:15one of them, one of them definitely fit where I already got busy,
- 14:18but it's particularly the same in Vegas.
- 14:20So I had reached out to her, and then she was like, so I got like a month,
- 14:26get familiar with it, and then I wanted to decide that's pretty easy,
- 14:28to get familiar with the character. and then I go.
- 14:35And then so.
- 14:39Like I say with all the stuff that you did with the,
- 14:43with Tunnel Vision and stuff all like that it took about two years for you to
- 14:48get to like make it like that was from the like filming it and then also the
- 14:53like the editing of it yeah okay yeah that's what was,
- 14:59did you always know that in your mind that it was going to go to 2B?
- 15:06Nah, see, first I put it on YouTube and,
- 15:10as I was trying to find a distributor. And once it got to like,
- 15:14I think some thousand views on YouTube, they flagged me.
- 15:17They started flagging certain songs, saying I didn't have permission to be songs, right?
- 15:23So what they do is, when they flagged, like I said, this is never already got 17,000 views.
- 15:29So now they're not gonna allow me to montage. So they give you like 24 hours
- 15:32to distribute, you know, so now you gotta put some proof.
- 15:35So I got all the emails on proof for these records, but it's one record on my
- 15:39pocket, I just got murdered.
- 15:42He got murdered right before he came out. So I never had a chance to get an email from him.
- 15:48So now I can't prove that I got commissioned. So I had one of certain things like that.
- 15:52There were such songs that I had commissioned him for, but it was under a different name to them.
- 16:02That's why I don't promote YouTube so,
- 16:06while I was going through I was getting passed up by every distributor someone
- 16:10told me they liked the film but it wasn't the agenda they were trying to push
- 16:17you know whatever that meant,
- 16:20and then I found people of Detroit in the land and,
- 16:26that population ever since okay cool cool cool and so getting on to was there
- 16:31any type of like problems or like headaches,
- 16:36dealing with to be as like a now
- 16:39that like as an independent filmmaker or stuff like that what's what has your
- 16:42experience been like having your film on to be how do you go about now promoting
- 16:48the film and what was your process like to get the word out about the film that's
- 16:52that's the part that you gotta learn backwards because the promotion is most important,
- 16:57and for you to win that but when you win that we learn all the things.
- 17:03But to be you gotta have a whole lot of support,
- 17:06make a profit but it's possible well as
- 17:09far as advertising I do it in there
- 17:13I do you know 24 hours a day promoting that's
- 17:17what I got going on you know what I'm saying and that's what I would buy as
- 17:20any filmmaker out there you have to you can't just assume somebody to put it
- 17:24out and just go you know but but the ones that don't work like getting better
- 17:28stay constantly pushing your products and so with that now you got the total
- 17:34vision it's in the it's in the it's in the wraps and stuff like that.
- 17:37It's on Tubi. It's on YouTube. People go watch it.
- 17:41That's kind of like your colleague card out, kind of like your business card
- 17:43out when you step into places and stuff like that.
- 17:45People want to know your resume and stuff like that. Now you got a little something extra.
- 17:49Like, no, I have an accomplished filmmaker.
- 17:52I made my film. I wrote, directed, edited, produced it.
- 17:56Now it's out there for a piece of art now that I can make money off of.
- 18:01So now you move on to your next project, which is a film called Arrogate Losers.
- 18:07And this movie is more like a I guess you know like I don't want to say like
- 18:12a crime film but it's more like a thriller type of movie and stuff like that,
- 18:17yeah yeah yeah but Arrogant Losers does this follow the same genre to me it
- 18:23seems more like a comedic drama type of thing like a romance comedy you know like,
- 18:29he wrote that.
- 18:32He wrote his film. That's cool. He wrote his name.
- 18:39Oh, he wrote the film? Yeah, he wrote the film, yeah. Okay, so that's cool.
- 18:44That's what they don't want to ask from that.
- 18:48Because you wrote Tunnel Vision, but now you have somebody else.
- 18:52So your team is just getting bigger, kind of.
- 18:55Your outlook is to be real there. That's what's up, bro.
- 18:58That's what's up. there's a whole lot less stress to leave if you like somebody
- 19:01else they had that responsibility so now with I'm sorry what'd you say?
- 19:08I was trying to say yeah yeah yeah most definitely so now with Paragalusers,
- 19:14what's the roles that you're playing with this movie?
- 19:18So I'm the main character named Warby aka Hulk so Hulk basically he's a security
- 19:25at the mall and he has two different baby mothers he has a black baby mother
- 19:30and he has a black one the black one has his oldest child,
- 19:34so the black one has a son and the spank has a daughter the black baby mother
- 19:39is she complains for money she's real educated she's got a good job she's very positive,
- 19:46his teen baby mama she like just with the shit she just do anything she's a live life.
- 19:57And then he got another part, he got a best friend. At first he said,
- 20:00I'm all with him. I'm going to contribute everything right. But he's struggling to graduate.
- 20:05He's got to be somebody to graduate. He got another part of the dead.
- 20:08Played a week. Football.
- 20:10Retired for $20,000, $50,000. His wife, unfortunately, took up his money.
- 20:14So now he's back struggling to deal with him.
- 20:16This friend that's stuck in the ghetto trying to figure it out.
- 20:19That's the story here. And this movie, does the whole thing take place in the
- 20:24Bay Area? Yeah, Oakland.
- 20:27Okay, I'll show you. Oakland's got a dope, well, the Bay Area in general,
- 20:30but Oakland's got a very dope filmmaking scene.
- 20:34The Bay Area in general is very dope for arts and stuff like that,
- 20:37but just being the filmmaker, media, and stuff like that, you just gotta take
- 20:41a certain appreciation, especially for independent, the independent filmmaking
- 20:45scene and stuff like that.
- 20:47Everything's very, like, Bay Area has the independent music grind and stuff
- 20:51like that with the E-40s and the Two Shorts and that even now they're just with
- 20:56the LaRussells and the I.M. Seuss and all that good stuff.
- 21:00But it's the same way with filmmaking, man. It's the same way with filmmaking.
- 21:03You just kind of follow in that tradition of Bay Area filmmakers.
- 21:10And so with this one, this one is also going to be on Tubi?
- 21:13Yeah, it's going to be on Tubi too, yeah. Okay, dope, dope, dope, man.
- 21:17And so with that one i'm not sure how to be
- 21:20works with like when it comes to like releasing stuff like i've
- 21:23heard people say that like they don't give you a specific release
- 21:26date they just kind of you just kind of have to check to see yeah check when
- 21:30he brought it yeah yeah that's how it works that's how it works so like with
- 21:35this movie how are you going to go about kind of you know premiere i think you
- 21:38said that i don't know if you want to give away like the you know the premiere
- 21:41date or kind of like what we was talking about um off podcast well we,
- 21:46We plan on doing like just an actual premiere to invite people out.
- 21:50Yeah. 420? 420, yeah. Sure. So 420, that's a good day. 420. Area losers.
- 21:56And that's going to be the Bay Area.
- 21:58For sure. Because it's a marijuana movie too, so.
- 22:02So it's like, you know what I'm saying? Well.
- 22:05Partner earlier we gotta we gotta start yeah you know so again you know let
- 22:11them know it's coming so about that when people see it on there they know to
- 22:16watch it you know what i'm saying yeah,
- 22:18yeah yeah and definitely then like i said once it gets close in that day two
- 22:21as well man i said you bring you and your partner back on and we could you know
- 22:24run this back again most definitely,
- 22:28and then so was there anything else that you wanted to let people know about
- 22:32like with either Arrogant Losers or with Tunnel Vision?
- 22:36Yeah. Because Tunnel Vision is on there right now, so I want you to check that
- 22:38out right now. Whatever you doing, put that on right now.
- 22:42As soon as the podcast is done with it, all that good stuff,
- 22:45you say Tubi, right? Because YouTube be playing games?
- 22:48Yeah. Please don't watch YouTube.
- 22:52Watch it on Tubi because YouTube be playing with the filmmakers.
- 22:55They be playing that funny money. So yeah, go to... Make sure y'all go it's
- 22:58funny because this is going to be played on YouTube.
- 23:07Go to Tubi to check out check out my man's movie, Tunnel Vision. Great, great story.
- 23:16You know, my email to write down whatever you're saying.
- 23:22So if I just reach out, just check that thing. Yep, yep, yep.
- 23:25And then be sure to follow him. Like I said, we have your IG handle right here
- 23:28below your name and stuff like that so people can see.
- 23:30If anybody's listening like on like the spotify or anything all like that spell
- 23:35out your social media so people can follow you real quickly yeah no problem
- 23:39instagram is c-a-l-i-b-o-i-j-u-b-e-t-e-6,
- 23:46my email is onevisionfilms46 at gmail.com o-n-e-v-i-s-i-o-n-f-i-l-m-s-46 at gmail.com,
- 23:59Facebook Facebook is at I mean Brown head on sure,
- 24:04well now like I said before I warned you before we do wrap up you know the Yeah
- 24:08Buddy podcast we always play a little game with them you know the guests stuff
- 24:12like that it's called Mount Rushmore and it's just basically simple where you just give,
- 24:17your top four,
- 24:20filmmakers that inspired you motivated you and they just give a little background as to why,
- 24:26alright So I would say, that's the loan for sure is number one.
- 24:37I'll tell you why, cause like even when I was a kid growing up,
- 24:41I used to watch rapese and all these stories, before I knew it was producing
- 24:45and I always loved the stories of how he put the black character in here.
- 24:50He told a lot of truth about history, you know what I'm saying?
- 24:53So I always respect that about him.
- 24:55The storytelling is dope, you know what I'm saying? And then Bell Gibson too,
- 24:59he's always a fan of, cause he did the same thing, he directly produced,
- 25:03you know, then you go back,
- 25:04get Bouncing Wilson, John Cena did I'm a fellow storyteller,
- 25:09and then I play Spike Lee.
- 25:11And then there's one guy named Jim Hill. He's an independent filmmaker that
- 25:14a lot of people don't know about him.
- 25:16I feel it. So I give it to them. Okay, what was his name again?
- 25:20Jamal Hill. Jamal Hill. Okay, cool. So we have Sylvester Stallone,
- 25:25Mel Gibson, John Singleton, and then DeMille Hill.
- 25:29That's a good, that's a very, that's a very, and who?
- 25:33Spike Lee. Oh, and Spike Lee. Okay. Cool, cool, cool.
- 25:37No that's a good that's a good that's a good line of people very very very diverse
- 25:42i like how you had a you know the independent person out there because i said
- 25:44independent filmmakers,
- 25:46that's key man because a lot of people people don't understand like probably about 90 percent,
- 25:51of filmmakers out here are independent because you know they just have a bigger
- 25:55budget to work with but if you're working outside the studio system right you're
- 25:59in this so you you want that us leave on that you want that grind and then um
- 26:03oh there's one more question that i had about tunnel vision,
- 26:06I don't want to give too much away, but one thing I did, I don't know if something that did happen,
- 26:10but the filming of it, I kind of,
- 26:13was like, I would say the worst thing in,
- 26:16it felt like the camera quality and stuff like that kind of picked up.
- 26:20I was looking like the helicopter scene that you had shot. I was just looking
- 26:26at this. I was like, man, he had that shot.
- 26:28I was like, did he shoot this movie in sequence?
- 26:31The end, I was like, oh, yeah, he stepped up the quality. He's like,
- 26:35that's the only way they're making this movie and shit.
- 26:37Yeah, what was that? I was having a bit of a lot of stuff.
- 26:48Okay, I was looking at that, I was like, all right, cool, cool.
- 26:50I went back and rewatched it, I was like, oh,
- 26:54I said, like, just to say back to watching it, actually that,
- 26:57studying the movie, trying to make little guesses on, like,
- 27:01you know, the filmmaking process, stuff like that, all right,
- 27:04yeah, yeah, that's always a cool thing to see, just from a filmmaker's standpoint,
- 27:10like, visually seeing the growth,
- 27:14that the filmmaker went through for making the movie.
- 27:18Right. So, yeah. It's fun, though.
- 27:22The process from the minute to the end is, like you said, you work on people
- 27:28and you get off each other. You know, it's just a dope process for me.
- 27:33Yeah, I always say, make a movie, just like
- 27:36you were talking about this stuff like that but making movies
- 27:39is like a science experience bro like you just
- 27:42you didn't come up with a guess like man i think that if we do this
- 27:45man that we're gonna make this and then and then you just test it out different
- 27:49camera angles different actors whatever it may be but you you at the end of
- 27:54the day you just come up with this big old science experience like what it is
- 27:58that you just presented to people like this is what it is it's art it is.
- 28:07And then especially when it comes to process of like filmmaking because like
- 28:13it's really a team sport animal like like you like you understand you know like
- 28:18if you played all these different roles and stuff like that you understand like
- 28:22dang this is a specific role that is never a specific person playing you know.
- 28:29And when you have to play that really online i guess i'll put in this role but
- 28:32it's still like i can't I can't be an editor with a mind state of the lead actor.
- 28:38I can't be the lead actor going in with the mind state of the writer because
- 28:42I like it and it just doesn't play.
- 28:45You're right. Because you're playing around different hats. So you got to be
- 28:48a setback tech mirror. You got to think like a director at that point.
- 28:53You got to think like a director at that point.
- 28:57Break. You got to have like seven different mindsets or whatever,
- 29:00you know what I'm saying, to pull it off.
- 29:02You got to think different too. You know, what did you say? It's fine,
- 29:05bro. To me, it's, you know what I'm saying?
- 29:08Bro, it's in class. I don't know. It's something that like, you got to be there to make it happy.
- 29:15Because like, you be in like some place like, it's like raining and stuff all like that.
- 29:18It's raining. Like, it's really raining. know yeah you you have the fun with
- 29:23it and it's just like so that anybody been your filmmaker man don't be don't
- 29:30be scared if you ain't got the fun now or if you like oh my story,
- 29:35whatever it's all like bro just go out there and just have that experience of,
- 29:40what you got yeah right because you never know you never know my friend that
- 29:48somebody might like, you know what I'm saying? It's sexy.
- 29:50You never know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm.
- 29:54You never know. And you never know where you're going to inspire.
- 29:56You never know where you're going to inspire and motivate that little piece
- 30:00of content out with your art out there and stuff.
- 30:04Appreciate it. Yes, sir. Yeah, dope show.
- 30:08Bro, that show, man. I appreciate you having me on there, man.
- 30:10No, that one, man. I appreciate you, brother, trying to do, man,
- 30:13being a part of the show, man. Like I said, it's a beautiful thing.
- 30:16Like I said, we'll be at Meta, better than the woods in Humboldt County,
- 30:21one of the only black people in that city.
- 30:23You know, he was talking about that movie and then flash forward to,
- 30:27you know, it actually being made and, you know, down to Sacramento,
- 30:30seeing that the premiere that you have, seeing the hustle that you put into
- 30:35really, the care that you put into making the movie,
- 30:37like, how would, you know, how you've taken it from there.
- 30:40Like I said, it's been an honor to have you on my show, brother,
- 30:42and like I said, once an arrogant loser comes back around, man i say you know
- 30:46tap it with your boy and we'll get you back on the podcast,
- 30:51i appreciate it i appreciate you my god yes i'll catch you next time.