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- 0:00I think horse people think about Mondays just a little differently because most people are headed back to work, but barns are usually closed and horse people are typically just hoping for a day off.
- 0:12But if you knew George Gaston, Monday meant something else.
- 0:18You were waiting to see what George posted in his favorite Facebook group.
- 0:23Just about every Monday, he'd post an old photograph.
- 0:27Sometimes it was a famous horse, sometimes a rider, sometimes someone many of us hadn't thought about in years.
- 0:35People would start guessing, and before long, people were all talking about old friends, old horses, funny moments, things they hadn't thought about in 40 or 50 years.
- 0:50Looking back, I don't think Mystery Monday was ever about solving the mystery, really.
- 0:57It was George's way of making sure that we never forgot each other.
- 1:02This past Monday, there wasn't a new mystery Monday.
- 1:07Instead, we learned that George had passed away peacefully in his sleep.
- 1:12And almost immediately, the photographs started appearing.
- 1:16Only this time, George wasn't posting, but everybody else was.
- 1:22All kinds of pictures of him.
- 1:24Some with friends, some with horses, but basically 50 years of friendships.
- 1:31This is two point perspective.
- 1:33Two writers with different viewpoints from different.
- 1:36Generations talking about the same sport.
- 1:41You know, I didn't really know George the way that you did.
- 1:45I knew him because of you.
- 1:47But after this week, I almost feel like I do know him in a way that you did.
- 1:52I know exactly what you mean, because I learned a lot of things this week too.
- 1:57I've known George for more than 50 years and I thought that I knew every chapter.
- 2:04Turns out I didn't.
- 2:06I think that that's what I have loved the most about seeing all of the posts and memories.
- 2:15Because they're so personal.
- 2:17Exactly.
- 2:18One person remembered George helping them get started.
- 2:21Another remembered his lessons.
- 2:24Another remembered summer camp.
- 2:26Someone else remembered something George did 30 years ago that they'd never forgotten.
- 2:32That made me really think about this.
- 2:36None of us knew all of George, but each of us knew our own George.
- 2:41He even started a little business called Just ask George because you could.
- 2:49Oh my gosh.
- 2:50So which one was yours?
- 2:53Which George did you have?
- 2:55Well, about a week before I was supposed to leave for college, I wound up at a horse show in Jacksonville, Florida.
- 3:02And George was there.
- 3:04Somehow we connected and he introduced me to the person that he was riding with or working for.
- 3:11His name was Bill Russell and he was the trainer at Pinetop Farms at the time in Thompson, Georgia.
- 3:18That introduction changed everything.
- 3:22One week later, my horse wasn't going to college with me as I had planned, but instead he was going to Pinetop Farms with Bill, I've thought about that so many times this week.
- 3:34It was just a simple introduction and a single conversation.
- 3:38And who knew one person quietly changed the direction of your life without either of you realizing it.
- 3:46But that was George.
- 3:49That's so incredible.
- 3:51It really is.
- 3:52And the funny thing is, I don't think that George ever thought of himself that way.
- 3:58He wasn't trying to change anybody's life.
- 4:00He just thought the two people ought to know each other.
- 4:04So when you moved to Pinetop, you two started hanging out?
- 4:08Oh, yeah.
- 4:10George went to the University of Georgia and I was at Converse College in Spartanburg, South Carolina.
- 4:15But I think I only went to school that year.
- 4:18Maybe one to two days a week.
- 4:20I was so busy going back and forth to Thompson or Augusta.
- 4:25There was always something going on, whether it was box hunting or going to horse shows.
- 4:31We even went to a Seals and Crofts concert at Clemson and that was huge.
- 4:37There were progressive dinner parties in Thompson because of the hunt, I guess.
- 4:42I mean, we just had a great time.
- 4:44Just college kids.
- 4:46Exactly.
- 4:47We weren't trying to build lifelong memories.
- 4:50We were just living our lives.
- 4:52What I love about that though is none of those memories are actually about horses.
- 4:59The horses were just the reason that you two were together and became friends.
- 5:04Exactly.
- 5:05People assume because you've known someone through horses for 50 years that all you talked about was horses.
- 5:13And we did talk about horses, pretty much like you and me when we're having dinner together.
- 5:20So when George came pretty much non stop at dinner and my poor husband was trying to be very patient, but he'd always say, okay, wait, who's Millie?
- 5:31Is that a horse or a human?
- 5:33I mean the poor guy.
- 5:35Poor Joe.
- 5:36I know, but we also talked about life.
- 5:39We laughed constantly.
- 5:41And George had a wonderful sense of humor.
- 5:44He loved a good story.
- 5:46And somehow no matter what we were doing, it always seemed to turn into some kind of adventure.
- 5:53Did you ever imagine, you know, maybe even in the early stages of your friendship or midway through the 50 years later, that you would both be talking almost every single week?
- 6:05Multiple times a week?
- 6:07Not for a second.
- 6:09When you're 20 years old, you don't think about 50 year friendships.
- 6:13You don't even know what that means.
- 6:15I think you just think about where you're going next weekend.
- 6:19You never stop and think, this person is going to be part of my life forever.
- 6:24There were periods when we see each other all the time and other periods when life took us in completely different directions.
- 6:32But somehow we'd always pick up right where we left off.
- 6:36And there was never any catching up to do.
- 6:40I think friendships like that are actually very rare.
- 6:44They really are.
- 6:45And I think that's one of the things I've realized this week.
- 6:49The older you get, the more you realize how precious these friendships are.
- 6:55The people you knew before you had a career, before you got married, before you had children, before all the responsibilities, they knew you when you were just figuring it out.
- 7:06And so I guess you could say George knew every version of me and who I was.
- 7:13You know, I called him my brother, not because we were related, but because after more than 50 years, there just isn't another word that fits.
- 7:25Well, life took both of you in a lot of different directions over that span of time, and somehow you were always able to find your way back to each other.
- 7:34I know.
- 7:35And life has a way of doing that.
- 7:38I mean, there were times when George was doing great, and there were times when life got harder for him.
- 7:45Years later, after we moved to Virginia, George found himself needing a fresh start.
- 7:51So he came to stay with us.
- 7:52And like a lot of old friends, we picked up right where we left off.
- 7:57But I'll be honest, living together isn't always easy.
- 8:03George could overstay his welcome once in a while, but that's real life.
- 8:09And when you've known somebody that long, you don't stop being friends just because things get inconvenient.
- 8:17You figure it out.
- 8:18And we always did.
- 8:19And somehow horses found him also.
- 8:21Again, they did.
- 8:23And I helped him connect with some people that I had met in Virginia.
- 8:28He actually worked for Tad Coffin for a while.
- 8:32He represented a bit company that we were working with through my marketing business.
- 8:38He spent some time in Florida working with Bill Russell's son.
- 8:41But eventually after that, he came back to Virginia.
- 8:46And then an opportunity opened up at Memories Hill.
- 8:50And honestly, I think George finally landed exactly where he belonged.
- 8:57He loved teaching.
- 8:58He loved young writers.
- 9:00He loved talking with parents.
- 9:02He loved being part of a barn again.
- 9:05He wasn't chasing anything anymore.
- 9:08He simply.
- 9:09He was simply sharing what he knew.
- 9:12And that's where our paths crossed.
- 9:14Exactly.
- 9:15You and I were riding there.
- 9:17George was teaching.
- 9:19Your niece came to camp.
- 9:21She didn't know anything about George's history.
- 9:23She just met George.
- 9:25And I love that because to her, he wasn't somebody from the past.
- 9:31He was simply the nice man at the barn who loved teaching the kids and loved the horses.
- 9:36Horses.
- 9:37My niece still talks about him.
- 9:39And, you know, and whenever I saw George at the barn crossing paths, always, always, always asked how she was doing, because she, you know, she doesn't live up here, so he would only get to see her on occasional,
- 9:52like, lessons and if she came up for camp.
- 9:55And I just.
- 9:56I always thought it was so kind that, you know, somebody he didn't see all the time, you know, that he cared to know how she was doing and he knew that she did other sports.
- 10:05And, um, he also was always so interested in my life and, you know, he didn't know me as long as he had known you.
- 10:16He was.
- 10:17He was just genuinely that kind of guy.
- 10:21But, you know, I think this past year has changed the way I look at friendships.
- 10:25When you've been through something hard, you never really forget the people who simply just show up and are there for you, not.
- 10:34Not the ones that are simply asking, you know, what can I do?
- 10:37And then you don't tell them, so then you don't hear from them.
- 10:40But every time you've told me a story about George, it's exactly who he sounds like he was.
- 10:45He was the guy that was ready to jump in when somebody that he loved or even that he just knew needed some help.
- 10:53That's exactly who he was.
- 10:55And if you want one story that explains George, it's Laurie Pitts.
- 11:01Most people in our sport know Laurie.
- 11:04She's one of those people who spent a lifetime taking care of horses and helping everyone else succeed.
- 11:11She did braiding, she did.
- 11:13She was a groom, she worked behind the scenes.
- 11:17But this spring, she was at the Keswick Horse show and somehow she took her three dogs out for a walk.
- 11:23And I don't know what happened, but she fell and broke her hip and suddenly she was three hours from home.
- 11:33She needed surgery.
- 11:34She had three dogs to worry about and she couldn't even begin to figure out how she was going to get home.
- 11:40But George never said, let me know if there's anything I can do.
- 11:45He just started doing it.
- 11:47He made sure that the dogs were taken care of.
- 11:50He figured out how to get Lori home.
- 11:52He set up a GoFundMe, he became the trustee.
- 11:56And then any chance he could, he's gone up to Middleburg, which is, you know, an hour and a half, two hours away, but was driving her to doctor's appointments and physical therapy, because that's just what George did.
- 12:12And I bet he never thought any of it was extraordinary.
- 12:16It's just something that he thought to do.
- 12:20Yeah, not for a second.
- 12:21To George, it was simply helping a friend.
- 12:25And I think that that's why, you know, so many people loved him.
- 12:30I think so, too.
- 12:33So you said that George loved history, but it seems like what he enjoyed the most was possibly the stories that history uncovered.
- 12:43I think that's exactly right.
- 12:44It was never just about remembering a horse or remembering a rider.
- 12:50George wanted to know the whole where did the horse come from, who trained it, who owned it, who rode it before, the person who has it now, how everybody was connected.
- 13:02He just loved connecting all of this because every one of those people mattered to him.
- 13:09And I think that's why Mystery Monday was such a success.
- 13:14The photograph was just the invitation, but the real fun of it was watching everybody else remember.
- 13:21And that's exactly what you've been doing today.
- 13:23The funny thing is, after listening to, you know, listening to all of this, reading all of the stories about George and Yalls friendship, I still don't feel like George was trying to leave a legacy.
- 13:37No, I don't think so either.
- 13:38I don't think George ever woke up thinking about that.
- 13:42He was much too busy just living his life, helping somebody, making an introduction, checking on a friend, remembering a horse that everybody else had forgotten.
- 13:53That's just what he loved.
- 13:55And somehow that's exactly why he left one.
- 13:58You know, a few days after he died, somebody commented on Facebook that George should be nominated for the J.
- 14:08Arthur Bucky Reynolds Award.
- 14:10And I thought, that is absolutely perfect.
- 14:14It's posthumous.
- 14:16And actually, Rodney Jenkins won it last year.
- 14:20So somebody was saying, you know, you need to.
- 14:23He needs to be nominated.
- 14:25So I said, I'll do it.
- 14:27And I did it.
- 14:29Not because I thought George needed something to honor him necessarily.
- 14:34I did it because I realized that we need to recognize people like George.
- 14:39We need to recognize what they stood for.
- 14:43Did writing the nomination change anything in terms of the way that you thought about him?
- 14:49It did.
- 14:50Because when you're asked to explain why somebody deserves an honor, you have to stop and think, what made him deserve this?
- 14:59Not what did he accomplish, just what was the thing that made him outstanding?
- 15:06And I realized something.
- 15:07It wasn't one big thing.
- 15:08It was hundreds of little tiny things.
- 15:12Whether it was just.
- 15:14Whether it was a phone call, an introduction, a ride to an appointment, remembering somebody's horse 40 years later, or helping a friend find a job or teaching a kid at camp, checking in on people, none of those things
- 15:30seem very important by themselves until you put 50 years of them together.
- 15:36That's such an interesting way to think about someone's life, especially from, you know, your perspective and your friendship.
- 15:45It really is.
- 15:46And then there's another question.
- 15:49How do we make sure that people like George don't quietly disappear from the story of our sport.
- 15:57I know.
- 15:58You know, every generation has people like him.
- 16:01And it seems like today we typically celebrate the champions.
- 16:05That's all you see on all the PR posts.
- 16:08You know, who won this and who won that, and we should.
- 16:12But our sport has also been affected by people like George.
- 16:17People whose names aren't always in the headlines, but their influence lasts for generations.
- 16:24Is that why you reached out to the usf?
- 16:27Yeah, and the USHJ Foundation.
- 16:30I don't know what the answer is yet.
- 16:33Maybe it's a scholarship, maybe it's a fund, maybe it's an award.
- 16:37Or maybe it's helping horsemen or the behind the scenes people in our sport when life suddenly takes an unexpected turn.
- 16:46Honestly, I don't know.
- 16:47But I do know this.
- 16:48I don't want George's story to end here.
- 16:52Not because George needs any kind of an honor, but because our sport needs more people like George.
- 17:00And if his name can somehow continue helping horsemen the way George spent his life helping horsemen, that would be a pretty incredible legacy.
- 17:13Well, I certainly think George would.
- 17:16Would have loved that.
- 17:17And I think for a man with such generosity and kindness that we should be taking the time to recognize and encourage people to be more like him.
- 17:35I think so too.
- 17:36Because again, George helped us for years remember the horses, but more importantly, he helped us remember the people.
- 17:44So now maybe it's our turn to remember people like George.
- 17:50Let's ride.