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Next we have jb Els, the guy who has a mastermind behind Sideline Sports
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guys, Happy New Year, glad to be here, the great week you've
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bet. And we got the pundit himself, Jacob Christner. If he says
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anything stupid or interrupt me tonight and he knows, I'm going to single him
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out by hanging a one liner between his seat. Although the guy is unbelievable,
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well, I appreciate that thing. No, here's the thing, the
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fun thing. JB. You've upgraded your chair. I see so very nice,
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love it new studio put it. Yeah. Over the Christmas holiday,
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I had the elves putting together the studio beautiful. Yeah, good stuff.
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Look what you did there, Joe. I'm oppressed. And last but not
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And she put it on smart too. There's more to this girl than meets
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the eye. Boy, she's she's a load full of positivity and everything we
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stand for it the network candy. Well, hello, guys, thanks,
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thanks for letting me join in. Well, we're glad to have you.
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Let me tell you, and you know, at least I know that we
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have some strong topics, and I have a feeling we're going to set the
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Jacob mindset on fire. So you and he's stupid. He's gonna be challenged.
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I say something stupid all the time, don stop me. Well,
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I'll tell you one thing about you, though, Jacob, at least are
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consistent. Stupid Jacob, I didn't all I said. He called himself stupid,
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and I just agreed with it. He just agreed with it. Exactly
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means he told you stupid, stupid. I can give more back like nothing,
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so I know better. Oh that's hey, you know what, you
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gotta be tough to work with us. Anyways, you know we're out there
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making sure that we know what we're talking about. So the one thing I
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learned in sales, if somebody you have an objection, you have to overcome
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it, or what we learn an augmentation as you refute and attack and rebuttal,
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and rebuttal means rebuild. So with that said, I don't have to
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rebuild. I'm just gonna build and I'll give it over you. We're talking
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about tonight. We're going to talk about some interesting stats pertaining Alabama football,
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the Southeastern Conference, Jordan Love Okay, we have Carolina and bad Boy,
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and of course we're gonna talk about the World Darts Championship. And when I
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tell Ian Hilton, I'm willing to go different. Ian, I'm going to
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tell you if you're watching this show, okay, Ian, okay, World
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Darts Championship. Now, I know you're dealing with pick a ball and all
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these but I search for everything. And we'll go over some additional top headlines
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as well. Time permitting what that said, let's get to the first topic.
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For the first time since two thousand and eight, players who will play
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their an entire career at Alabama will leave it out a national championship. Also,
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Alabama won't reach number one in the eight people any season for the first
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time since two thousand and one. That was Nick Saban's first year. All
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right, well, you know what, we'll top to bottom. Jacob Krishner,
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what's your take. Well, you know something, the only thing I
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can think about is that was just a very very very very stupid call at
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the end, very stupid, just especially when a couple of weeks ago we
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saw the mill Row throw a thirty yarder at the corner of the end zone
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with no time left against Auburn, you know, just to be able to
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do something like this, we know he can throw the ball. So what
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what does Bill O'Brien do. He gives them a run to draw play when
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they already had everything stuffed, and it's like that's the big thing, and
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it's like that's a safe bet. That's a safe kind of thing. When
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it's the end zone, you take the shot. And those one of the
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things as far as Alabama goes, We're gonna hear people, you know what,
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you know what you're gonna hear. You're gonna hear people go Sabans out.
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I mean that mean Sabans lost it. Yeah, he made a playoff
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again, you know, and then until he is six unless he is Bear
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Bryan, and I love Bear Bryan, I love his legacy. Unless he's
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going to the Holiday Bowl at the end trying to get a sixth win and
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win in the fourth quarter, He's not. He's not that thing. He
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hasn't lost anything. People are just so used to his legacy, sabans legacy
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and all those titles, So he hasn't lost anything in just a stupid play.
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And and by the Michigan played the game of their life. Well,
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let me point out one thing, okay, Jacob, just so we have
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a little clarification on the offensive coordinator. The offensive coordinator for Alabama's Timmy Reese
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and Bill, you're right the dumpster fire in New England probably next week.
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You're right, you're right that I'm just letting you know that Tommy Reese is
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doing it. What would that was the only reason I was thinking Bill O'Brien's
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because that play, that play looked. Think of Bill O'Brien play old school.
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What's the young guy like Tommy Reese doing with that play? Well,
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I don't know. There's another little food for thought about Bill O'Brien. He
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didn't want Milroe to even be the quarterback, one to play another position,
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and this kid here, Milroe, proved him wrong. So yeah, just
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as you went, we got there putting in perspective, and we'll move over
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to George Iikhorn. Okay, you know, well what the topic is,
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go ahead and address it. Well, yeah, I mean the bar is
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high. The bar is very high if you're an Alabama fan, alumni,
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supporter, whatever, And I certainly understand their frustration. They're not used to
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losing. They're not used to losing the championships on my finals or the finals.
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Yeah, they didn't get there this year, but they did make the
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finals. And Jacob brought up a good point. I mean, they're such
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talent and such recruiting geniuses that they're always going to go on to win it
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all. I mean that's the mentality. Not to say it's not the mentality
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of a Jim Harbaugh or any mother coach, because it is obviously you want
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to be the best of the best. But I think that Alabama really has
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nothing to be ashamed of. They rallied from a season that I thought was
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on the ropes. I really did. I didn't think there was any way
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halfway through the NCAA season that Alabama would be in the Final four. But
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all that being said, I agree. I agree wholeheartedly Jacob. That was
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not the right play to call and Nick Saban's got to take ultimate responsibility for
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that. Not as coaches then he will. But yeah, that was a
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silly point. You don't do that kind of play. You knew Michigan was.
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They're like animals on that line, and they're out to get blood,
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you know, so to speak. They were trained in fact, that was
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one of the things that Harball drilled into them and their coaching staff, you
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know, to get to the next level, they had to be like savages
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on the line, both offensively and defensively. So yeah, you played right
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into that. You played right into that. But like I said, the
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bar is always high for Alabama. They had a good season. I know
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they want to win it all, but it's not going to happen this time.
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But they'll be back. They'll be back. Nine players leaving for the
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portal though I heard today nine Alabama players, So here we go again.
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That doesn't matter to him, you know what, Jacob, it might mean
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more than you think to him. I'm going to get to that after everybody
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speak. Thank you, pick it up after that. Okay, yeah,
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no, But that's a good point. But the main thing is is this.
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I have a vested interest in this thing because the University of South Florida
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only lost seventeen to three in the front front of sixty five thousand at Raymond
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James Stadium, and everybody wondered what Alabama was like, and that's when they
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benched their quarterbacks until they came to their census to put Milroe in. So
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but that's a good point. I'm gonna comme in on and after Joe and
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Candy are done. So go ahead, Joe, listen. First of all,
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Nick Saban, for the last twenty years, that was a little different.
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The transfer portal is different today than it was in twenty oh five,
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twenty ten, twenty fifteen, So it's a different game. So yes,
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it may be a little bit past what Saban juiced to. He'll adapt though,
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because he's a great coach. So you know he'll have some down years,
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but you know, Michigan was the better team. I think Georgia was
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the better team. They just played Alabama on the wrong day. You know,
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Saban's a great coach. He gets the most out of his players.
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They'll be back, and they're gonna now with the playoffs at twelve pencil limit
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every year, they'll have a shot every year. Who cares it's a waste,
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They're going to be there consistently. But you know, more importantly,
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when I noticed that, I was thinking about this today when I was doing
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the JJ Sports Express where we do the NFL picks for the week. We
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may have history this year that Harbor beat saved. We may get the first
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time the two brothers with the college football championship at the Super Bowl. Now,
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granted, there's a lot more work that has to be done by the
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Ravens, but Michigan's only going to win one more game so and they're the
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favorite of that game. But the Ravens got the one seed, so this
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could be historic. They did play each other in a Super Bowl. They
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did a coach against each other in the Super Bowl. But you know,
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this has never been seen before. It's be interesting to see. Yeah,
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I've read about that all week, Joe. I'm glad you brought it up
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tonight. Good stuff, you know, I mean, think about it.
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John Harball has a chance to win it all. He's going to have Lamar
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Jackson, who, by the way, they are going to rest this weekend,
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which I think is a smart move. Anyways, why why go ahead
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and play a guy when you've already when there's nothing hanging in the balance,
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they've already won the What and if AFC North I believe is that what they
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playing over there? And that's right. So they play there, so and
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they get the number one. And that's a great point. I've seen that
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written a bof with the fact that you addressed to night is really good.
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Good stuff, Joe, all right, good Andy, Okay. So Nick
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Saban, he has had so many different coaches underneath him, besides players underneath
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him. We were talking a little bit about this on The Chicks Show last
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night. Is that Alabama is one of those schools that is just known for
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college football and Nick Saban And who doesn't want as a young high school or
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younger player, who doesn't want to go play for a Nick Saban with all
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the championships he's had with all the pedigree that he has. So these young
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players all want to go play for Nick Saban because they want they want to
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be competitive, they want the best chance. And how many NFL players has
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he produced? He's produced a ton. Yes, do they not have their
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best year? I would say for sure if you look at a lot of
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the games, they were a lot closer than what they have been in the
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past. But I have to give kudos to the College Football Playoff Committee because
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honestly, those games the other night were on par They were really close.
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They were competitive. They weren't blowouts like we've seen in some of the past
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years. With all the criticism, and I get because I've heard a lot
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of people complain Florida I live in Florida, a lot of people complaining Florida
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State wasn't in there. But would have Florida State been competitive with any of
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those four teams that played? And yes, I get that Florida State played
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in a bowl game and they played horrible. They didn't have the same amount
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of people, But even if they would have had all of their people,
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would they have been competitive with those four teams? And the games that we
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saw because we really were entertained. I will I will tell you I was
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entertained. I was really I wanted to watch the football games and you want
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to watch it from beginning to end. So who won? The fans won,
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the colleges won, college football won and got it right? All right?
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Now, let me pick up on Georgia's point. George said, what
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nine went in the portal? Is that correct? All right? Here's here's
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what's going to happen. Had Nick Saban and won it all this year,
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he would have retired, nothing like going out on top. I really,
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I really truly believe that. To me, he would have retired. I
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think where he's ultimately going to get tired of it. And we've seen it
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happen in college basketball. Or how many coaches did you see to get out
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of it? Mike Krushevsky left when he had to go, when the times
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were changing so much. Pardon me, Beheim, ye, Jim Beheim.
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And of course we had Roy Williams. So my point is this, Okay,
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Elabama, after they lost they were they were, they went out there
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and said we need some money from our nil people. So what will subsequently
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burn out Nick Saban is when it's more trouble. It's worth the asword about
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transfer portals and not enough nil money. I can tell you right now,
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I have a feeling his coaching dates will be over period. All right,
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we'll stay. We'll stay with the Southeastern Conference because it isn't represented in the
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national Championship for the first time since twenty fourteen, and it's the first time
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since twenty eighteen that there won't be an SEC team winning at all. So
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all right with that said, JB, I'll let you lead off of this
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about time there's some change. But once again the committee was wronged. You
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know, the world teams were the playoffs. I could care less that Alabama
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beat Georgia. Georgia was a much better team. If we want to go
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with the better team that we left Florida State out, so that would be
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the first one. And if we're not saying the better team that Florida State
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should be in because they won their conference, didn't lose a game, So
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it could be one of the other. Can't be both. We've had two
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SEC teams in before where Baba beat Georgia I believe, or the other way
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around way back, and they both got in, so they could have put
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the two SCC teams in, but I don't know who you'd leave out.
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The games were thoroughly entertaining. I'm glad the SEC isn't in the championship game
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because this was a year that they were actually down. This was not the
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best year by the conference. So it's good to see, especially that's the
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last year for the PAC twelve. You know, it'd be historic to see
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them would in the last year of the conference. I think Michigan wins either
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way, but there's a lot of great storylines. But I still think Georgia
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and Florida State would have been the two teams that deserve to be there.
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Fair enough, Okay, we'll turn over to Jacob. One of the things
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about is I get the feeling that the committee playoff committees is getting the people
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used to the idea of no SEC champion because think about this, for one
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second, you had Alabama, and Alabama could have easily done it, but
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they won't. But one of the things that you would see is now that
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you're gonna have nine hundred and seventy two teams in the B, one G,
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you know, and stuff like that, and then everybody else like probably
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three probably three conferences like the Simmering Down are going away. It's gonna be
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such a different time. So the SEC is gonna have the SEC k just
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go off their name anymore. There's gonna be so much and Washington proved they
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belonged, so they're even the PAC twelve and it's going you know what I'm
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saying. So one of the big things is I think you. I think
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the SEC just because of all their years of winning, and they won so
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much. We can say since twenty fifteen, twenty eighteen, it's been like
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oh nine since they're constant. So so there's gonna be that way. And
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it's like now the see he's not gonna go in on the name anymore.
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They're gonna have to go work. They're probably they're going to a twelve man
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They're going to a twelve team. They're probably gonna get the hardest challenges.
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It's just because they couldn't have had. It's gonna be their reputation from the
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past. It's like, you want to win it, and now you're gonna
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earn it. Good point. Okay, we'll turn over to George. Well,
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I don't shed any tears. I mean, the SEC has been around
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for so long and been such a prominent player in this college football championship series.
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And it's a refreshing, refreshing for me personally to see the PAC twelve
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and the Big Ten. You know, it's like the old familiar Rose Bowl
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when we all had the our eyes glued to the television set at five pm
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Eastern time on New Year's Day and go and behold. We had that same
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scenario with Michigan playing Alabama, of course in Pasadena. But I think this
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is exciting for not only the Pack twelve, but excited for all conferences,
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you know, because the Big Ten and the PAC twelve made it. It's
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gonna be really a good, good game. It really is. And I
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had no tears for the SEC like you said, Joe. I mean,
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they've had they've had their run, and they've been in there so many times,
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and probably I agree, Georgia for sure should have been in there.
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And now you know, next year is going to be the expansion, so
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there's gonna be less billy aching, less crying about my team not getting in
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and yours did. Because of the expanded field, there will always be some
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complaints, you know that, even with twelve, But I think they need
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to control and keep the Bulls as viable as they can. And that's a
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whole other subject. But I really think that having the national championship is great,
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but you also got to keep the balls going because Bulls draw twenty five
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to forty five thousand people for every one of those ball games. And that's
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off to ESPN because they put a lot of money forward and televised ninety percent
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of those games themselves. So that being said, Scott, I'm all for
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it. Sorry, SEC, this just wasn't your year turn over to Candy.
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Okay, So it's no surprise that I'm a big ten girl, But
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so am I sad that the SEC is intill I mean, let's face it,
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They've won thirteen of the last seventeen national championships in football. Alabama's won
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six of those thirteen. That's just too much. Like I think, I
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like more parody. I like seeing people that haven't been in there. I
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like seeing less dominance of one team, just like the NFL. I like
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more parody. I like to see other teams win it, other schools win
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it. You know, next year is going to be twelve. We talked
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a little bit about on the on the Chicks show. On Chicks and Salsa,
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we talked about the fact that the transfer portal, in my opinion,
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should not open until after these Bowl games because I think so many of them
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don't play unless they're playing for a national championship. They don't play in these
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games, and then these games aren't the same, they're not as competitive,
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and I miss I miss that, I missed the fact that everybody was playing
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the same team. So I really think the transfer portal does us harm by
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opening up in December. I think it should wait till after the bowl games.
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But that's just my opinion, and that probably is a debate that we
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could talk about for a long time. I don't think it's as much of
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a debate as you think it is. And I'll tell you why I say
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that, because number one, I think you're totally on point. Number two,
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the biggest thing that you have to understand, as the nc DOUBLEA is
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begging for help from Congress to try to get this messed straightened out, and
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Congress doesn't want to get involved. So the NCAA looks like a bunch of
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chickens between their legs is what they have, because they don't know what they're
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gonna do. You've got a problem area. Everybody understand name, image and
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likeness, Okay, and you get that, and the transfer portal has gotten
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out of control. We have over fifteen hundred to two thousand students in how
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many gonna end up landing big spots and then the other ones are going to
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be stuck. So I don't think your way out of the line there.
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I think you're more on target than you think. But when you also look
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at the dynamics of the fact that Washington and Michigan are playing for the national
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title, guess what, They're going to see each other again in the fall,
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aren't they? And yeah, what the only tug of war you're gonna
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have will be between CBS and NBC. Who's gonna get that game? So
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now we have a pseudo Big ten championship game next year after we already have
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a decisive national championship game in a matter of days, right, So it'll
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be interesting, it really is. And and I think you're right, Candy,
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this is all parody. If I've ever seen the problem is then SEC
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can't handle it. Guys like Dabo Sweeney can't handle it. They had a
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down year as well too. I mean, we watched Miami beat Clemson and
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Dabo Sweeney used to be the king of that castle. Everybody was a dirty
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rascal, right, Well, you know what, heaven a tough year all
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of a sudden, you're not trying to change how business should be conducted.
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So you know, I mean, the twelve teens is the right team,
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and I don't think they're going to mess with it anymore. I think weelve
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was enough. But there's so many interesting dynamics. But the reality is congresses
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who want to get involved in say NCAA, you've got to figure out your
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own business. And that's all there is to it. So hotel gets the
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cartel gets to operate without a problem, because that's what the NCAA is.
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It's a cartel exactly. Well, babafia, it's a disgusting business practice that
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exploits young men and it's done that for how low young men and women?
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Right, you know that they make money off the backs of these kids.
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Coaches were able to leave anytime they chose go get another job. Meanwhile,
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you know, if you're with a six foot four center from whatever school and
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your coach left, you were stuck sitting out a year and you you know,
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if you didn't want to play for the new coach or if he didn't
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like what you did and you were stuck. So the NCAA, they have
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a lot of problems. It's not a well road organization. It's all about
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making money. It's not about the student athletes. It never has been.
25:32
Jab did you say a six to fourth center win and win nineteen fifty six?
25:36
Football? Football, not basketball. Oh okay, because football runs the
25:42
world in the I've got a couple of news headlines I want to mention before
25:48
we go any further in this show. Number one, Blake Korham. When
25:53
when Blake Korum scores a touchdown, the University of Michigan is thirty one to
25:57
oh. So that's a pretty interesting note that people should go out there and
26:02
take note going on one day's game. Secondly, on this day. In
26:07
nineteen seventy three, fifty one years ago, George Steinbrenner bought the Yankees from
26:12
CBS for ten million dollars. The most recent valuation for the Bronx commerce seven
26:17
point one billion dollars. If that isn't a good ROI return on investment,
26:22
then tell me what one. Because that's why the Yankees can buy anybody they
26:26
want. Of course, the Dodgers can too, but that's another topic for
26:30
another day. So let me repeat on this day. In nineteen seventy three,
26:34
fifty one years ago, George Steinbrenner buys the Yankees from CBS for ten
26:41
million dollars and the most recent valuation is seven point one billion dollars. All
26:45
right, but that said, Okay, we go to the debate of the
26:48
night segment. Okay, and this is the segment that we get to go
26:52
ahead and rile up Jacob Kristner and free to go ahead and participate after and
27:00
he hammers him and she hammers back. You know, Cannie's a sweet person,
27:03
We know that. But the Wh'll tell you one thing I about that
27:07
chick so shows she told me earlier that yany you know, the girls want
27:11
her to step up and stop them from talking a little bit too much.
27:14
Right, This girl that I have is packed with knowledge and she's packed with
27:18
ability. And let's forget about who she learned from, because you want to
27:22
learn good habits and bad habits. But she's way prettier than I am.
27:26
All you have to do is ask my brother Lonnie. He always watches her
27:30
shows anyways, so and that. So with that said, we're gonna let's
27:34
get lovely on this subject with Jordan Love has thrown more yards than any Bears
27:41
QB in a single season and franchise history. I know this is killing It's
27:45
not killing me. I'm laughing, yeah, I know, all right.
27:48
Love uh in twenty twenty three has thirty eight hundred and forty three passing yards,
27:52
while the Bears all time record is thirty eight thirty eight. So you
27:56
know, we have some four digit lottery numbers here, but you know those
28:00
are the hard, cold facts. And now, Jake Christner, they're your
28:04
team. There are there is nothing you're gonna get me to like make me
28:08
humiliate it on something like this. It's like the only thing I could say
28:12
is I was wrong in Love. I mean, I will say it.
28:15
I started the beginning and you heard me what I said. I was wrong
28:18
on the guy just because I saw him in college and he just wasn't that
28:22
he just wasn't that good. He was very, very mistake prone. But
28:26
the biggest thing about it is, you know what I keep forgetting in the
28:27
middle of all this, I'll say this, candy. It matters with coaching.
28:33
It matters with coaching because by it said, but you're because you're looking,
28:37
you're looking at like for instance, I'm just using an example, Joe
28:41
Flacco, horrible with the Jets, comes straight in on the Cleveland. You'll
28:45
with a real coach with everything with the system bam playoffs Now, So the
28:51
coaching matters. Jordan Love fell in with a great coach, great coach,
28:56
and they got him off of his mistakes. He has some flaws at times,
29:00
but he's getting better and better as far as the Bears go. I
29:06
mean, part of the reason of everything I say with Justin Fields is the
29:10
first place because three years ago, when they got him, they got him
29:12
up. I caught the emotional nitwit. They got him off emotional Knitwi.
29:15
It's like you didn't change up your coaching staff, you didn't change anything,
29:21
you didn't build around him. Really, three years in you finally get DJ
29:26
DJ Moore finally, but then you still didn't get you still are missing half
29:30
of a line. He's still running for his life. They didn't get another
29:34
receiver to really help him. You had comet, but if he was hurt
29:37
then they had no tight end. So and that's every quarterback. Cutler dealt
29:44
with the Trubisky dealt with it. Every quarterback in history. With the Bears
29:48
deals with it. They still think it's nineteen eighty five. The only thing
29:53
that can you can tell from the Packers that live old is lambeaut and because
29:59
they do renovate Lambeau all the time. So that's the whole thing. The
30:03
Packers thinking forward. The Bears are still in nineteen eighty five. All right,
30:07
Well, Candy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. The
30:17
Bears, what can I say? They just they don't have the coaching,
30:22
they don't have the quarterbacks. The one thing I will say about Jordan Love
30:26
we all said in the beginning he wasn't doing well. He has young receivers
30:32
and all of that is true, but I think he has the smarts who
30:38
read that. He's starting to read defenses. He's starting to read where his
30:45
open men are, and I think he's starting to gel with the receivers so
30:48
that the receivers and him are on the same page. He's starting to know
30:53
where they're going to be, how quickly they're going to get there, and
30:59
when he's trying to run for his life or scramble, he's reading them better.
31:07
He has not thrown knock on wood, very many interceptions. He also
31:12
has over thirty touchdowns for the year, which is more than any Chicago quarterback
31:18
as down in a season, as well as yards. And if you look
31:23
at his numbers compared to let's say, Hall of Fame Aaron Rodgers in his
31:29
first year, he is similar, if not beating all of Aaron Rodgers' numbers
31:34
as well. So is he going to be a Hall of Fame quarterback?
31:40
Time is gonna tell. But I honestly think, as I've really watched and
31:45
studied the game, that the quarterback position is more about smarts and reading your
31:52
defense and being able to adjust to your defense. Because if you can't adjust
31:56
to your defense, you're throwing interceptions, you're being picked off, You're throwing
32:04
balls not high enough over your offensive line and they're being batted down, you're
32:09
getting sacked, And it's about knowing when to take a sack and when you
32:14
can't afford to take a sack. So you really have to play with smarts
32:19
football smarts, is what I'll say. And Jordan Love is doing better than
32:23
he was at the beginning of the season. You see the same caliber as
32:28
some of the other quarterbacks now, not yet, but I would say he's
32:30
better than I'd say at least a third of the quarterbacks in the league right
32:35
now, at least all right. The only thing I'm going to add to
32:38
that, and Candy touched on just what everything I was going to say,
32:42
But I figure this was really designed for her and Jacob and the rest of
32:45
us will say a thing or two is Jordan Love sat behind Aaron Rodgers,
32:51
and I think that in an instant gratification league, what you expect your rookie
32:57
to go on there? I think the best way to groom a quarterback without
33:00
losing his confidence is by letting him sit behind him veteran, and that's exactly
33:07
what he did. The New York Jets were hoping that Zach Wilson could sit
33:10
behind Rogers end of the year. Unfortunately it didn't work out because Rogers suffered
33:14
that season ending injury at the beginning. So again, loves of beneficiary of
33:20
being able to sit back learn the game behind him, just like Rogers did
33:25
with Brett Farr. So there's a history in Green Bay where they're patient with
33:30
their quarterbacks while other ones have to just put him in there and hope that
33:32
they don't lose their confidence. Zach Wilson will do well somewhere else, I
33:37
can tell you, just not with the Jets, because he was, like
33:40
you guys say, coaching matters. So more power to Love that he was
33:45
able to hang in there and learn behind Rogers. And I think the help
33:51
the upside with jordan Love is extremely high. And just think they end up
33:54
probably have as many wins as last year's Packers team did. And we're the
34:00
New York Jets with Rogers. Don't ask, all right, We'll turn over
34:04
to Joe some thoughts. So a couple of things. First of all,
34:08
the offensive game has changed, so to say that Jorda Love has more passing
34:15
yards than any Bears quarterback, although it's accurate, we're really only talking about
34:20
the last fifteen seventeen years and that would be the time frame and the Bears
34:25
really didn't have anyone that was lights out during that time period. But kudos
34:30
to Jordana Love. He exceeding everyone's expectation. But the key to why he's
34:36
doing that la floor last year when Aaron Rodgers was a time bob at Green
34:42
Bay and they had to put Jordia Love in when he got hurt a couple
34:45
of games. He was horrible. But what did Lafloor do? He kept
34:50
the team together when Rogers was didn't want to practice, didn't want to do
34:53
anything when he talked, when he would say whatever in the press, Lafloor
34:59
kept the team together other and they had a really good year and to make
35:01
the playoffs. But they were close. This year, Love finally got the
35:06
chance to start, shook off all the garbage from last year from his couple
35:09
of starts, said you know what, I'm going to go out there and
35:12
play. And what happens with that? How does he become a different quarterback?
35:16
Confidence and good coaching, you know, Lafloor got him to the point
35:21
where he's a more confident quarterback. It's not easy to come it after somebody
35:24
great, Jacob's gonna talk after me. It's gonna be hard. It's not
35:28
gonna be easy to make the points like I made them. I get it,
35:30
you know so, But no, in all seriousness, you know it
35:35
was I'm sure a tough situation to be thrown in there last year. You
35:38
can't go by that. Jordan Love has talent. Lafloor is a very good
35:43
coach. He's proved it last year. He proved it again this year.
35:46
Unfortunately, I think the pressure this week's going to be a bit much for
35:50
Love. So I don't see the make of the playoffs. But both teams
35:53
way above anything that anybody would have expected. You know, they both had
36:00
I would say, above average years, and they both have something to build
36:04
on going into next year that the least as a future. Well, I'll
36:07
tell you this. There was a time when I thought Dan Marino's record was
36:10
unbreakable. The boy in the new NFL has shoved Dan down the line.
36:15
I thought the best the quarterback that it's ever had, the best release that
36:19
I've ever seen in any era is Dan Marino's quick release was just unbelievable.
36:22
One way to avoid sack, get rid of the ball quick and know what
36:25
you gotta do. How many how many ords do you think Marino would have?
36:30
You know, at this six easy, I would say ninety thousand the
36:35
way he threw the football. Yeah. No, here's the thing. We
36:43
talked about this unpunnit. We really did. We had this, you know,
36:46
a couple of weeks ago, Scott, we talked about the NFL,
36:51
you know, you know, with the quarterbacks and the coaching and how some
36:54
of them it's George knows this also, how some of them will just burn
36:59
through these it's confidence, right. There was a there was a video of
37:07
let's see Zach Wilson at BYU leaping in the air, someone trying to spear
37:12
him and he was big enough just to like knock the guy down from the
37:15
air and just kind of trash talk of mind did it? And that was
37:20
And then they showed a bunch of ones where he threw sixty yards like nothing.
37:23
All of a sudden, now he is a joke and it's like it's
37:28
a joke to the league. And I'm like, where does that happen?
37:30
And it's like, what do What did I say? From the beginning,
37:34
Candy I was saying, I thought Love was screwed. I thought the Bears
37:37
would finally break that. I thought, although I thought Love was horrible,
37:39
he didn't. He played a couple of games in those three years and didn't
37:43
come close to winning. I thought, this is terrible. It just shows
37:46
that it's coaching. Coaching also means when someone's having a bad game, they
37:52
keep with them. They don't do what's uh, you know, they don't
37:55
do what Sean Payton did to Russell Wilson done the set and everything. It's
38:00
like, yeah, you made this, we're gonna go work on this and
38:04
we're gonna get you know. And it's like he kept with love the whole
38:07
time they were two and six, kept with him, and it's like that's
38:09
what good coaching does. And it's like the you know, that's the biggest
38:15
thing. Remember, I don't, I truly don't. I don't think.
38:20
I do not think at all it's between injury and anything like that. I
38:23
don't think. I think this year's the first time he's played sixty eights in
38:28
a row, justin fields, you know, at once, whether it's injury
38:31
or being set or any of that stuff. I think his first time he's
38:34
played six in a row. And it's like and that's the big thing with
38:37
it is there isn't a real consistency with him. He never has the coaching.
38:42
Put him in, Put him on with Brian Dabele. I'm just gonna
38:46
say that's jab Put him with Brian Dabele, put him with any coach that
38:52
is a guru, put him anywhere, he will be a monster. I
38:54
just believe it. I do too, all right, we'll turn over to
38:59
George's and Wayton, So go ahead, and George, well, I don't
39:02
have that much more to add. A couple of things I look at in
39:07
a quarterback, especially a young quarterback who's developing, is the fact that he
39:13
has six targets with three hundred or more yards so far this season. I
39:19
think that's a very good stat He's distributing the ball very well. And I
39:24
think that Jordans had a great year, much stronger than probably most people expected.
39:30
And he's dished out ten different teammates for touchdowns and that says a lot
39:37
also, so he's finding different targets, he's not just relying on one or
39:40
two guys to provide the offense. And receiving yards are being distributed very well,
39:46
very equally with Green Bay right now, and the touchdowns as well.
39:51
I think he has a great future ahead of him. I'm not going to
39:53
compare him to Chicago Bears quarterbacks because it's a bit of a stretch, only
39:58
in the fact that you know, I still have a lot of a lot
40:00
of hope for the for the Bears as well, But no, I think
40:05
Green Bays had a really good year, and you know, if this this
40:08
if whether it make the playoffs or not, of course they want to make
40:12
it. But uh, this has been a solid year for him, and
40:15
I do I do think he's well coached obviously up at Green Bay as well.
40:21
Okay, I get to add one last little point because Georgie reminded me
40:25
of something. One of the points that they were talking about with Jordan is
40:31
the fact that he has distributed it to Like you said, ten different receivers
40:37
have gotten touchdowns. He does not have a prime or key receiver that is
40:45
a veteran that is making a lot of money. And they have said that
40:51
that is probably the best thing for a rookie because you don't have someone that's
40:57
saying I have to have the ball. I have to have the ball.
40:59
You got to throw me the ball. Yet to throw me the ball,
41:00
I'm the one that you have to do it. That they're working by a
41:05
committee and so there isn't that added pressure of you always need to look for
41:10
one person first. And I think that that happens in some of the other
41:15
NFL teams. I mean, let's face it, we all know DeVante Adams
41:20
used to play for the Packers. Look how many times he said you're not
41:23
throwing me. I'm not getting the ball enough. I'm not getting the ball.
41:27
I'm the receiver you need to be throwing to. Jordan Love does not
41:30
have that added pressure, which I think has made a big difference as well.
41:35
Thanks exactly, Thank you well cover this one really well. So guess
41:38
what we're going to go? From Green Bay Dow to Carolina. Talk about
41:43
Carolina's bad boy. No, I'm not talking about the Detroit bad Boys.
41:47
Carolina's bad boy. Okay. The NFL has fined Panthers chairman David Tepper three
41:53
hundred thousand for unacceptable conduct during Sunday's game, throwing a drink fans in Jacksonville.
42:00
My my mind, let me break down some really silly stance. Heer
42:05
about this whole thing. Okay, ready for this, Okay, let's see
42:09
got it on. Hey, you know what, folks, I have two
42:13
phones. What a beautiful thing here, you know, one for videos and
42:15
all the good stuff. And then we're gonna go ahead and talk about what
42:17
this fine really amounts to. Okay, but with this fine amounts to is
42:22
the equivalent of finding the average American a dollar seventy seven. My goodness,
42:28
I can even count that high, all right. So with that said,
42:31
okay, we're gonna turn it over to Jacob Christner. After all, all
42:37
you need to go up I eighty five to dig up this story. So
42:39
do it, Jacob. Oh lord, David Tebur And if you're longer than
42:45
most people, I have to give you a head start anyway. See,
42:47
let me tell you this part here. Take one look at the guy,
42:52
and he looks like the evil guy on a Hallmark movie. You know,
42:55
just take a look at his face. Just everything, he just he's got
42:59
that smirk. You are fired, and it's and it's that Christmas Carol look
43:05
that horrible and a really cheap movie. That's what he looks like. Only
43:08
at the end they start smiling. They start smiling at the end and are
43:14
all happy and it's a happy ending. David Tepper's not that guy. David
43:17
Tepper is a terrible human being. And then him doing that that feels like
43:22
the least of what he would want to do in the first place. Plus
43:27
the fact he says, oh, I'm sorry, I'm just so passionate about
43:30
the game he's given. He has basically given away for nothing. DJ Moore
43:36
and Christian McCaffrey without it doesn't have a draft pick. He's thirty one and
43:40
sixty five in his you know, since he's taken over. I mean,
43:46
he is a he's a terrible owner. He's a terrible human being, terrible
43:50
man. And that's the one of the biggest problems with something like these is
43:55
the fact that only thing that you're gonna see with something like this is right
43:59
now, unless he had done anything. I know, they're going to try
44:01
to find tapes of him. They're going to try to find any kind of
44:05
evidence to get him out, just kind of like Richardson in the first place,
44:07
where they did with him. That's a one way other than that,
44:12
being a jerk doesn't get you out of the league. But truthfully, Carolina
44:15
needs him out before they can get anywhere. Well, Canny, you talked
44:21
about it last night on Chicks and Soal, So why don't you go ahead
44:23
and not only mention what you mentioned on that show, but if you have
44:27
any new things that have entered your mind. Twenty four hours later, after
44:30
he spoke on on their broadcast, so it was coming out, Well,
44:37
did he throw it at a fan? Did he not throw it at a
44:38
fan? I don't care if he threw it at a fan or not.
44:43
I get I'm passionate, but you represent the NFL. You are an owner
44:51
of a team with the NFL. There are a lot of young youngsters that
44:55
look up to you that would love to be in your shoes. Now,
45:02
everybody's like, oh, well, you know, he shouldn't have done that.
45:08
Here's here's the part of his statement that leads me to believe that yes,
45:15
he was throwing it at a fan because so many people thought, oh,
45:20
maybe he just threw it in passion. I should have let the NFL
45:25
stadium security handle any issues that arose. I respect the NFL's Code of Conduct
45:34
and accept the league's discipline for my behavior. Well, yeah, because it's
45:38
cost you what, Like Scott said, it was a dollar seventy seven for
45:43
most of us. That three hundred thousand is a drop in the bucket for
45:46
you. You need to act responsibly when you are in your it's a business.
45:54
I get it, and you own them, but that doesn't give you
45:59
the right to act however you like to. Just because you were upset because
46:02
someone threw an interception and it wasn't going the way you wanted it to go.
46:07
You know what, that's life. We all need to learn that that's
46:12
life, and you need to learn how to control your temper and control your
46:15
actions, and you need to. Yes, I'm going to hold you to
46:20
a higher level because you are an owner of this business and so many eyes
46:24
are on you these days especially. You cannot get away with things like that.
46:30
You might have been able to twenty thirty years ago, but everybody's got
46:34
cameras now on their phone, everybody's recording things. Not a better example or
46:40
get out? All right, George iicorn? All right, well, yeah,
46:47
I mean, you know this guy means bad news. Okay. I
46:52
would never see William play Ford, who owned the Detroit Lyons during some really
46:58
rough years and tough years, do something as obnoxious as that, Nor would
47:01
I expect George Hallis or you know, Paul Brown or any of the famous
47:07
owners of all time. You know, it's just childish, and you know,
47:13
I know it's a drop on the bucket to him three hundred thousand dollars.
47:15
But the point of the matter is is that you embarrassed yourself, you
47:20
embarrass your franchise, and you are looking at a situation where who would run
47:27
to come there if you act like that? Okay, you want Ben from
47:31
the Lions or our offensive coordinator, you want to interview him again, Well,
47:36
he's going to have second thoughts, okay about maybe coming to your club.
47:39
You've gone through so many head coaches, so many players, so many
47:45
assistant coaches, so many quarterbacks, on and on. You know, if
47:49
you want to improve that franchise, it starts with you and your behavior.
47:53
And bar As I know I would vote too to get him out of the
47:58
lake if I had a vote, because there's no reason for this kind of
48:00
man, this kind of behavior from this man right now, none at all.
48:06
Okay, at least Jill. So I mean, let's think about this,
48:13
right, There's no consequences in any of this punishment. So what's the
48:21
point just to say we did something The NFL needs to do better. Secondly,
48:28
whether it's a fan of your team or another team. Without them,
48:32
your league is nothing. You know, if you don't have fans, you
48:37
don't have anything. Who's watching the games, who's buying the products that are
48:39
from the sponsors. I don't care if your team's owed a thousand, you
48:45
still need the fans. So to go out there and do that, it
48:50
shows what type of person you are. You know, there's nothing that could
48:53
have been said that was that bad to make you throw a drink on somebody.
48:59
I've never thrown a drink on somebody in my life. There's no there's
49:01
no reason to do that. He's in a box, they were outside,
49:06
get security. If something was said that you were that unhappy about, you
49:09
got to take a drink and throw it on somebody. When we two years
49:13
old and you're supposed to be the guy that's in charge of your team,
49:16
we own this team. It's a joke. A person like that doesn't belong
49:22
to be an owner of a professional sports team, because, yeah, you
49:27
have to have some sort of dignity and you have to be able to lead
49:30
by example. I really have nothing more to say. It's just pathetic and
49:37
JB. I wanted to real quick. I wanted to say this. I'd
49:40
say what I say about fans all the time. But you're right, have
49:45
to have them. We had that one year we had no fans. You
49:47
would think that would be a perfect dream for me. You know what I'm
49:50
saying. We watched the thing nobody there. No, it's horrible, it's
49:53
a horrible atmosphere. You need them, you need them to need everything as
49:58
much as they drive me nuts. That might be my own visual version of
50:00
an emotional nitwit. I get mad in the moment when I see the ones
50:05
being stupid. But you need them, and you're correct on that, You're
50:08
I mean, we need them to be able to pay the tickets to get
50:12
in, to get the merchandise, to get all that and get the excitement
50:15
going. And I guess the stupid goes with the territory. But you have
50:20
to have them in the end, and it's like they're going to lose a
50:22
lot of them if Temper stays around. That's just the thing. Well,
50:27
that's not a loose some of the fact that Tepper got rid of Frank Reich
50:30
and even last year, though Frank might eventually think him at the end,
50:32
he's still gonna get paid for a while anyways, not to do anything.
50:36
But the reality is is Paul find find Mom went out there today and said
50:40
that Tepper is a clown. No, I'm sure he was being very nice
50:44
about it, calling him a clown, because I'm sure many other people have
50:46
said a whole lot worse about him. But let's get real here. You're
50:50
throwing a you're throwing a drink on some fans because they were they weren't buying
50:55
your kool aid. Get me a break, So I'm with you. You
51:00
know, another bad owner to go along with Dan Snyder. But this is
51:05
what we have. You know, we can't screen owners enough, bad enough.
51:08
This guy seems to be a very good businessman, but born when it
51:12
comes to a sports owner, he's absolutely awful. A couple more things I
51:16
want to get to. First of all, Sconnie Scheffler has been voted excuse
51:22
me, Player of the Year over Master's Champion John Rahm, a player vote
51:27
that raises questions of whether Rom was penalized for affecting to live golf of this
51:32
news information. Our final topic of the night goes from I call it the
51:37
Ian Hill Special. Okay, and I repeat the Ian Hill Special. Let's
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be different, right, mister Hill, you got it? Okay. Kudos
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to sixteen year old Luke Letler for becoming the youngest to ever reach a World
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Darts championship. All we do in our business is play dart's looking to fuind
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what topics are good. But guess what. Some of these people play it
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for real. Of course, you know some of them buy it with the
52:01
actual darts or the magnet. So, George, how about that. Luke
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Littler has made it famous on our broadcast because he's a darts guy. Yeah.
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Yeah, it's uh, it's really interesting because I saw a feature on
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NBC in the last day or so about him, and nobody, nobody thought
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he would get to that point. And they're making banners up and scarves up
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with his name on, and he's got his own little fan club and cheering
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section there, and he's surprised the heck out of the dart world. In
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that competition he finished second, I believe overall. I think that's what they
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said. But anyways, nobody expected him to get that far. So congratulations,
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Luke. You did a great job. And you're putting darts right back
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on the map, the sports map, the entertainment map, whatever map we
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want to call it falls under a different category maybe for some people, and
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it's like playing cards too, obviously with some people referring that as a sport.
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I'm happy for him. A good, good going young man. You've
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been practicing, I'm sure your whole life, and what an achievement at only
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sixteen years old. Good job, all right, Candy, What can you
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say? A sixteen year old that's competing at such a high level. Awesome,
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great for him. I mean, it's nice to see youth get so
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involved with one sport and perfect their craft and have fun with it. Kudos
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to him. May he have a good career in darts. Do I follow
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it as much? Noted I used to play darts? Sure, was it
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fun, of course, So kudos to him. Good job. All right,
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turn over to Joe. We're talking about darts. You bet seriously at
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a sixteen year old? A sixteen year old. Listen. Back in the
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day when we had three guys on Sideline Sports before we edited Dave, we
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used to talk about, what's that stupid game with the bead bag? You
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throw it at a whole cornhole? That's what It's fine? This ain't sports.
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Keep that getting out of here. Who cares? You know what.
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I'll go out there play darts against the catal beata, But I don't care.
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It's we're not talking darts. Oh I'll tell you what. So here
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we go on live broadcast. Here that JBL is is going out on the
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limb and challenging a darts guy. Well, you know what, JBL,
54:37
make it happen. You're going to go out there and get that animated for
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some I'm going to incorporate more darts and corn hoole stuff in here, just
54:45
so you can challenge everybody on the planet. How that sounds. That sounds
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like that? You know that sounded awful. That sounds like something you get
54:53
on Epste's Island. But you know what tonight is on Sports Exchange Island?
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All right? Yeah, so go through some darks and you know, hit
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the little little bull's eye. I've done it before. It can't be serious.
55:10
It's darks. Come on, you know. Good for heavy sixteen,
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that's phenomenal of short. He feels great. Hope he has a great life.
55:17
I hope he learns from his success and handles it well. Hopefully he
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has good parents and management and they keep him grounded. Great great story,
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but darks come on. Well you know what, Joe? If I remember
55:34
right, because I know at times I tend to lose my memory. Okay,
55:37
did all these good, feel good stories happen in Christmas? Well guess
55:40
what, Joe? Okay, today happens to be January third, twenty twenty
55:45
four. Will take a little few more days for me to get used to
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twenty twenty four. We don't have to save all these feel good stories with
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Christmas. We can start off here in a positive note, right right,
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Joe, call you. Let's set up. Let's set up the match we
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called a match to darks. Is it a match? I believe. I'll
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tell you what I'm gonna usue a challenge here. I'll tell you what.
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You go ahead and set this match up and I'll do the play by play
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for it. Is that fair enough? Listen? I've never heard of a
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darts thing except if you go to the bar and get a couple of beers.
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So you you contact his people, tell him anywhere, anytime. As
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long as they pay for me to get there, I will go and beat
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the kid, and we'll do it for charity. Put it on some pay
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per view. Matter of fact, m GBA sneak Pete come in February January
56:29
twenty ninth. Make sure you're looking out for that. But we'll put it
56:30
on there as a pay per view, and when I beat the kid,
56:34
they take care of the charity. Let's do it, do it all right?
56:37
Well, we'll have to talk to mister Hill and let him know that.
56:40
You know, the MotorCity man Mount brought it up there and now we
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have a challenge to launch the network. All right, hey, JB,
56:46
he's sixteen, it looks about forty five, so you can get him beers
56:50
some pretty safe tape because they're not going to take his ID, so get
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it. I'll just say this, more power to the kid. I hope
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he does well. So with that said, we only have about a minute
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or so to go, so let's go to the scaled down version. JB.
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Let everybody know how they can get hold of you. JB underscored the
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program on X Sideline Sports every Tuesday eight thirty. Great show, guys,
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enjoyed it, happy to hear, and great camera. Well I'll love your
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new equipment. All right, George iicorn. You don't have to mention every
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nine million shows that you've been on. Just keep it simple, stupid,
57:28
or you can. You can find me on the South coard Of Tribune under
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the Motor City Tribune banner. I write sports and cover sports in Michigan and
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Detroit, and we got two winners here, the Lions and the Wolverines.
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You can reach me on gi Cornet Yahoo dot com and also find me on
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57:50
All right, Jacob, give me the cliff note five of course,
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I have now been casting a move ten toes down coming in February, and
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I got and I do some writings. I do some different things all along
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the way. All right, Candy, you can speak for me, okay,
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give it out there. Well. The first thing I want to do
58:13
is I do want to say rest in peace, Herb Coal. You were
58:16
a pioneer for the bucks and you really did awesome. You were a senator,
58:22
you led by example. You built the Coal Center for UW University of
58:27
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All right, Well, that does it for us, so on behalf
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