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Press Pass | Coen on Secondary Additions, Self-Scouting & Focus on Routine in London · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: When you see a player like Wayne Johnson decide to
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: step away in the middle of the season to address
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: his mental health, what does that make you think.
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  Speaker 2: About as a head coach? Yeah, I mean, I think
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  Speaker 2: everybody goes through stuff, right, as human beings. And you've
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  Speaker 2: got to remember that there is life outside of this game,
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  Speaker 2: and this is a job. It's our job. And so
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  Speaker 2: for him, obviously such a decorated career– so much respect.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, 15 playoff games that he played in as,
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  Speaker 2: as a player for that team and the success that
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  Speaker 2: he's had, um, you know, he set a standard in
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  Speaker 2: a lot of ways at the tackle position over the
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  Speaker 2: last X amount of years. And so, um, you know,
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  Speaker 2: have a lot of, a lot of respect for him and, um,
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  Speaker 2: you know, hope that he can continue and, and hope
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  Speaker 2: to enjoy a life outside of football.
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  Speaker 1: And just from the football side of things, how does,
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  Speaker 1: how does that change?
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  Speaker 2: Not much. I mean, he's, you know, I think it,
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  Speaker 2: changes in terms of you're losing a really good player, right?
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  Speaker 2: But they've been, if you look at over the course
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  Speaker 2: of the years, the injuries, sometimes they've had guys, sometimes
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  Speaker 2: they haven't. I think that they have confidence in the
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  Speaker 2: guys being able to step up and play. And so
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  Speaker 2: from a game plan standpoint, it doesn't change much.
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  Speaker 3: Liam, if you could just kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Elaborate on the decision to sign those two defensive backs
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  Speaker 1: and kind of where you stand in terms of.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just obviously continuing to add depth and competition there,
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  Speaker 2: especially Jalen Jones has been a really good special teams
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  Speaker 2: player around this league for the last few years. I
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  Speaker 2: think he had like 16 tackles last year on special teams.
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  Speaker 2: Continuing to try to add players that are diverse, that
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  Speaker 2: fit your culture, that are going to be able to
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  Speaker 2: help us if they have a hat on game day,
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  Speaker 2: not just maybe in one phase on special teams and
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  Speaker 2: being able to give you quality snaps throughout the course
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  Speaker 2: of the week at different positions, whether it's at corner, nickel, safety.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the two guys that we added have
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  Speaker 2: some of that flexibility.
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  Speaker 3: At safety, two parts. If you go to Husky, how
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  Speaker 3: has he come along with the last couple of tours watching?
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  Speaker 3: And also on Ransaw, is that a season-ending injury?
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  Speaker 2: No answer on Ransaw in terms of season-ending. But, you know, Husky,
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  Speaker 2: I think, You look at the amount of reps that
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  Speaker 2: he got at Carolina joint, at the Saints joint, Tampa joint.
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  Speaker 2: He's been in competitive situations, played a ton throughout the preseason.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's been coming along. I like his play energy.
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  Speaker 2: He's got his hands on the ball. multiple of those
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  Speaker 2: joints and made some downhill physical plays. We'll have to
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  Speaker 2: look at it throughout the week and hopefully we lock
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  Speaker 2: him in to be able to give us communication, stability
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  Speaker 2: back there. That's the key point and put those guys
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  Speaker 2: in a position to be successful. I'm excited about him
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  Speaker 2: getting a potential up.
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  Speaker 3: You talked a little bit about how on the road
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  Speaker 3: trips teams have to bond. Last year you went to
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  Speaker 3: London and came back 1-9-1.
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  Speaker 2: What's this kind of trip this long it wasn't two
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  Speaker 2: weeks last year yeah yeah it's like hey we got
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  Speaker 2: to have mental toughness to prepare ourselves throughout this week
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  Speaker 2: um and also have a professionalism to us that understands
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  Speaker 2: that this is a business trip it's we're going out
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  Speaker 2: there to play football games and um you know it
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  Speaker 2: it's something you have to do right like anytime you
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  Speaker 2: get outside of your normal rhythm and routine and environment,
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  Speaker 2: something is going to happen to you. Like something will
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  Speaker 2: tweak something. It's natural for every human being. And so
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  Speaker 2: what I challenge them with is to identify what it
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  Speaker 2: is for you that can occur, right? When you step
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  Speaker 2: out of your environment and routine and to think about
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  Speaker 2: it and to get ahead of it, right? Like for me, it's,
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  Speaker 2: all right, if I'm out of my environment and my,
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  Speaker 2: what are my things and how do I set up
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  Speaker 2: guardrails in place to make sure that those things don't
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  Speaker 2: become a negative right and so that's what I communicated
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  Speaker 2: to the players was to think about it over the
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  Speaker 2: next few days before we get out there and so
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  Speaker 2: that you can communicate all right if it's a diet
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  Speaker 2: routine is it your workout routine is it your sleep
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  Speaker 2: routine is it your social routine what are those things
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  Speaker 2: that you have to maybe look at to identify and
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  Speaker 2: communicate that to the people in this building that can
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  Speaker 2: help you get ahead of some of those potential issues
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  Speaker 2: What was your reaction when you saw Saquon's reverse jump
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  Speaker 2: on Jarion the first time? I didn't realize it was
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  Speaker 2: on Jarion until obviously going back and looking at it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it was obviously freaky, and you don't necessarily
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  Speaker 2: plan for that, I don't think, as a defender in
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  Speaker 2: that moment. But that's the kind of player he is, right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the type of stuff that he's been
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  Speaker 2: able to do. Um, you can't coach it. You're definitely
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  Speaker 2: not practicing it. Um, it's instincts and, and obviously, um,
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  Speaker 2: they have some players that can do some of that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Could you maybe possibly give me an example of how
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  Speaker 3: like the new kickoff rules have sort of impacted your
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  Speaker 3: late first.
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  Speaker 1: Half decisions or something like that? Does that happen with
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  Speaker 1: you guys or no? Not really. Hmm.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't necessarily thought of it in terms of end
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  Speaker 2: to half situational football. Um, I think it's an ongoing
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  Speaker 2: deal that you're constantly evaluating what's the best way to
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  Speaker 2: coach it, what's the best way to teach your players
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  Speaker 2: the fundamentals, techniques, and scheme of it. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: become a little bit more schemed up in ways. The
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  Speaker 2: twist that you're seeing on kickoff now, it's so much
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  Speaker 2: more than what you used to be able to see,
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  Speaker 2: what we were seeing before. It was just so much
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  Speaker 2: more straight down the field. And now you're seeing, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: chaos out there from some teams. And it's cool to watch.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's similar to how defenses have continued to
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  Speaker 2: evolve over time. And you see how much more involved
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  Speaker 2: that part of it is. Like your protection, your blocking
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  Speaker 2: schemes on return have to be so much better. And
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  Speaker 2: they have to be so much more well coached. You've
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  Speaker 2: got to practice so much more. Because it's not just,
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  Speaker 2: all right, you're getting a rush and you know who
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  Speaker 2: your guy is and you're just going to be able
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  Speaker 2: to block him. Or, all right, who are we double
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  Speaker 2: teaming this week? You know exactly where he is. And
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  Speaker 2: when it's happening, he stays where he's at. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's mental now. And the amount of moving parts, piercing,
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  Speaker 2: back padding, the play is evolving. And so we have
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  Speaker 2: to continue to make sure we're evolving with it. and
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  Speaker 2: trying to stay cutting edge with it. But I haven't
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  Speaker 2: necessarily felt it in a, like, all right, what's my
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  Speaker 2: decision at the end of the half necessarily. How important
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  Speaker 2: are veterans on this team who have been making this
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  Speaker 2: trip for a couple years now? How important are they
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  Speaker 2: for maybe some of the young guys who haven't done
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  Speaker 2: this before? Yeah, they're definitely important. I said to Jarrion today,
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  Speaker 2: I said, hey, man, the only outfit you need to
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  Speaker 2: bring are your cleats and your helmet, pal, all right?
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  Speaker 2: So just, hey, guys, like be able to help one
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  Speaker 2: another out with the routine, the schedule. You know, obviously
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  Speaker 2: going out there on Friday is really the time where
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  Speaker 2: you're going to feel it the most to make sure
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  Speaker 2: that they get sleep on the plane. They're pros about that.
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  Speaker 2: Like don't stay up and watch movies and shows on
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  Speaker 2: your phone all night. Like you have to get rest.
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  Speaker 2: We've got to hydrate, and the guys have to be
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  Speaker 2: able to, like I mentioned before, communicate what some of
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  Speaker 2: their issues may be or obstacles could be, but also
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  Speaker 2: the vets that have been through this travel and trip,
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  Speaker 2: being able to help the younger guys out is definitely
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  Speaker 2: something we've talked about.
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  Speaker 3: Two and three tight end personnel you got a vision
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  Speaker 3: for it how is the reality about that in terms
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  Speaker 3: of getting brett in some good matchups.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah i think it's helped for sure um i think
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  Speaker 2: you look at the amount of snaps bork's been able
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  Speaker 2: to play for us uh so far this year and
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  Speaker 2: and doing some of the the things that we've envisioned
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  Speaker 2: him being able to do um and then every week
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  Speaker 2: right it's where's the matchup going to be, right? You're
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  Speaker 2: obviously wanting to get everybody involved each week, but sometimes
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  Speaker 2: with the flow of the game and how it plays out,
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  Speaker 2: a matchup starts to come more to the forefront and
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  Speaker 2: where you feel better about it and where somebody's making
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  Speaker 2: plays early in the game and it just continues to happen.
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  Speaker 2: And so I think it's just good to see from
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  Speaker 2: the first X amount of weeks is each week new
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  Speaker 2: guys or different guys having a bigger game. I think
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  Speaker 2: that the personnel groupings help. To be able to play
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  Speaker 2: in 11, 12, and 13, it just gives us flexibility,
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  Speaker 2: gives us balance. Going into this week, knowing Coach Fangio
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  Speaker 2: is such a huge tenancy coach and going off of
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  Speaker 2: your previous tendencies, whether it's personnel, down and distance things
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  Speaker 2: like that um it really uh make it challenges you
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  Speaker 2: to move your pieces and puzzle pieces around yeah that's
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  Speaker 2: a huge part of it that's that's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: what we do on a day-to-day basis um you're you're
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  Speaker 2: constantly looking at what you've put on tape not just
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  Speaker 2: this year, but last, and looking at everything that they're
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  Speaker 2: looking at, hopefully, and playing the game within the game.
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  Speaker 2: That's what so much of this is about, is moving
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  Speaker 2: your puzzle pieces around so that you break some of
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  Speaker 2: your own tendencies or trying to stay ahead of the
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  Speaker 2: call in a lot of ways and so um when
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  Speaker 2: you're behind on the call and you feel like they're
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  Speaker 2: ahead of you that's where it's that's what sucks about
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  Speaker 2: it is like when you're as a play call you
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  Speaker 2: feel like you're behind um That's when you don't feel
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  Speaker 2: like you're putting your players in the best chance to
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  Speaker 2: be successful. So that's a lot of what goes into
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  Speaker 2: the work week, so much of what the offensive staff
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  Speaker 2: does all throughout Monday and Tuesday before we even get
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  Speaker 2: going on the opponent. We really look at ourselves and
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  Speaker 2: study the self-scout, study what we just did, plays off
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  Speaker 2: of plays, and how those things can fit for the
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  Speaker 2: next week.
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  Speaker 1: 6-1 after the bye week in your last season with
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  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, 9-1 after the bye week in this past
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  Speaker 1: season with Jacksonville. Obviously, you don't want to count your
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  Speaker 1: eggs before they hatch, but if you're able to reach
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  Speaker 1: 6-1 to start the year, have you paid any mind
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  Speaker 1: to how dangerous this unit could be in the latter
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  Speaker 1: half of the season?
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  Speaker 2: No, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: Liam, in terms of third down rate, you guys are
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  Speaker 1: obviously compared to last year, but also compared to your
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  Speaker 1: opponent this week.
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  Speaker 3: It's obviously been a bugaboo for them.
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  Speaker 1: It's something you guys have really capitalized on.
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  Speaker 3: Both sides of the ball. What has it been this year.
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  Speaker 1: That you've unlocked on third down?
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  Speaker 2: I think similar to just moving the pieces and trying
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  Speaker 2: to find matchups, but also concepts that we're comfortable with,
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  Speaker 2: concepts that the quarterback's comfortable with. the balance between pushing
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  Speaker 2: the ball past the sticks and then where can we
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  Speaker 2: find ops to throw it short of the sticks and
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  Speaker 2: still be able to convert. I think that that's something
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  Speaker 2: that you can lose sight of at times as a
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  Speaker 2: coach where it's like, all right, it's third and seven, eight, nine.
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  Speaker 2: We got to get the routes past the sticks. And
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  Speaker 2: I think that that's when you're putting your guys up
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  Speaker 2: front at a disadvantage. You're making the quarterback hold on
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  Speaker 2: the ball longer. Now the wideouts have to win, you know,
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  Speaker 2: more deeper in their routes. And so I think having
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  Speaker 2: a good blend of that. And then really defensively, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think they're just mixing coverage really well on that
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  Speaker 2: side of the ball, playing good third-down defense. And we
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  Speaker 2: affected the quarterback this past game, which I thought was huge.
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  Speaker 3: Interception it was obviously the move he put on t
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  Speaker 3: higgins was pretty sick does that does it make you
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  Speaker 3: think i gotta get this guy no.
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  Speaker 2: No you don't i don't think anything of it i
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  Speaker 2: thought it was a really good play yeah i mean
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  Speaker 2: it just shows you that he's got totally yeah absolutely
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  Speaker 2: does Travis, London was actually the last game he ended
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  Speaker 2: up playing. It was potentially his best game.
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  Speaker 3: As a pro.
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  Speaker 2: We know we're going to get it. That was really cool.
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  Speaker 2: It was. It was really cool. I'm not being an ass.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not. No, I was being an ass,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm not. It is. We want to. Absolutely. No,
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  Speaker 2: it's good. It's good to see. But, like, what I
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  Speaker 2: think we've. you guys want more of, and I get it,
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  Speaker 2: but like, look at the last two weeks, what he's
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  Speaker 2: been able to do while we stay firm on the plan.
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  Speaker 2: And so will it come? Absolutely. Just what do you
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  Speaker 2: remember about his performance in life in, um, last year? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was a week where, um, I thought
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  Speaker 2: he had bless you. One of the better practice weeks
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  Speaker 2: on offense that week. Uh, we obviously went into it
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  Speaker 2: with a little bit more of a, focus point on
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  Speaker 2: him on the offensive side of the ball. You know,
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  Speaker 2: obviously with where we're at in terms of the health
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  Speaker 2: in the back end on defense right now and him
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  Speaker 2: playing every single snap, still being mindful of that. But
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  Speaker 2: I thought he really had a great week of prep
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  Speaker 2: on offense. You could tell he and Trevor had been
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  Speaker 2: building a better rapport, more trust, more consistency. And so
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  Speaker 2: that's what you're kind of hopeful that over the next
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  Speaker 2: few weeks here they can continue to do that. and
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  Speaker 2: so good at this so long what was that oh
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: yeah what makes him tough for you know well you
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  Speaker 2: just you guys you know you look at his core
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  Speaker 2: foundation of what he does right but you don't know
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  Speaker 2: in any given week what he's going to pull out
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  Speaker 2: of his of his uh toolbox right like He's known
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  Speaker 2: so much for the shell and the match coverages within.
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  Speaker 2: But like last week against L.A., he barely played some
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  Speaker 2: of the match coverages and gave completely different looks in
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  Speaker 2: some ways to the Rams. And so you just you
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  Speaker 2: have to prepare for everything. You know, like he's going
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  Speaker 2: to have. his gotchas right like hey I know when
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  Speaker 2: they're doing this this is what the percentages are this
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  Speaker 2: is exactly what they're going to do and he goes
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  Speaker 2: off those and that's what makes him such a good
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  Speaker 2: football coach and why Campy has learned so much from
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: him I think from not just the coverage aspect, but
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  Speaker 2: how to call a game and what the flow is
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  Speaker 2: and how to prepare for the work week and what
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  Speaker 2: goes into that. And I think that that's what makes
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  Speaker 2: him so challenging is that he's going to have those
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  Speaker 2: touchés a little bit, right, where you're like, damn, I
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  Speaker 2: thought I had him there. Or, man, that looked like
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  Speaker 2: they schemed him up and then they play a totally
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  Speaker 2: different coverage that they had played maybe in that situation
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  Speaker 2: for the previous three to four weeks. And so that's
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  Speaker 2: what I've always really appreciated about him. Like I remember
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  Speaker 2: 2018 Chicago Rams, that was really the first time we
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: had seen like the 6-1 stuff. and playing everything from
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  Speaker 2: top down and making us earn every single play. Every
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  Speaker 2: single blade of grass was earned. Wasn't giving up the
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: big plays. Obviously, Coach Belichick gets a lot of credit
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  Speaker 2: for that Super Bowl. It really started with him at
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  Speaker 2: Chicago that year in 2018. About the disrespect that this
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  Speaker 2: team sees nationally right now, nationally, he's kind of gushing over.
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  Speaker 1: This team right now.
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  Speaker 2: You have to dig a little deeper in your motivational bag,
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  Speaker 2: looking for that bullet to.
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  Speaker 1: Go over here.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know what I heard. I haven't heard
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  Speaker 2: anything about them gushing of at all. I have no,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's like, uh, I hope that we're a
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  Speaker 2: mature enough group to understand that, um, this is a,
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  Speaker 2: what have you done for me lately league. And, um,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when you win, usually they're going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about you well. And, you know, if we don't play
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  Speaker 2: well or don't play Travis enough on offense, it's going
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  Speaker 2: to get talked about no matter what. So we just
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  Speaker 2: know that it's, it really is irrelevant. And it's really,
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  Speaker 2: it is though, seriously. I mean, it's, it's so much
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  Speaker 2: more like about us. Like we cannot look at anything
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  Speaker 2: outside for any sort of you know validation if you
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  Speaker 2: will right because for good or for bad I mean
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  Speaker 2: yeah we can use stuff but like our players honestly
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  Speaker 2: this year we have not really been using like a
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  Speaker 2: ton of stuff on the outside because they're they're kind
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  Speaker 2: of just like whatever man like at this point we
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  Speaker 2: just know what it is like we still have not
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  Speaker 2: earned anything like we have not earned it so We've
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  Speaker 2: got to go continue to take it with the way
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  Speaker 2: that we play. If people say, man, that team plays
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  Speaker 2: hard and they're violent and they hit and they run
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  Speaker 2: and they tackle and they do it, that's great. That's good.
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  Speaker 2: But we're not looking outside for anything.