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- 0:03Speaker 1: It is Monday, September sixteenth. This is Jaguars Happy Out.
- 0:12Speaker 2: And now contestant number two on this season's Golden Bachelorette,
- 0:18Speaker 2: JP Scheer and welcome in.
- 0:22Speaker 1: It is Jaguars Happy Hour after Week two. It is Monday,
- 0:27Speaker 1: September sixteenth, the First Hour presented by Jet Home Loans,
- 0:31Speaker 1: JP shatterck with you from the HOUNDAI studios. We've got
- 0:34Speaker 1: a busy two hours ahead on TENTINXL ninety two point
- 0:36Speaker 1: five FM, Jaguars dot com and Jaguars YouTube.
- 0:39Speaker 2: And here's what's coming up. A recap of Brown's.
- 0:42Speaker 1: Eighteen, Jaguars thirteen and an ugly football game at the
- 0:46Speaker 1: Bank in week two, all the way around offense and
- 0:49Speaker 1: quarterback questions. There's some more than that defensive performance. We'll
- 0:55Speaker 1: break it down both halves, keeping it real. What's the
- 0:58Speaker 1: road ahead for the Jack Warris fanatics fan questions.
- 1:01Speaker 2: We will go around the league as well.
- 1:03Speaker 1: But after an ugly day at the offense, Jaguars quarterback
- 1:07Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence had seen just enough from this offensive performance
- 1:12Speaker 1: the last two weeks.
- 1:15Speaker 3: I mean we stuck right now, so I don't pretty shocked,
- 1:18Speaker 3: you know, obviously, this is we had a great offseason,
- 1:21Speaker 3: great training camp, and.
- 1:23Speaker 4: We got to figure it out.
- 1:24Speaker 3: So we know we we we got a good group,
- 1:26Speaker 3: we got good players, and it can be a good,
- 1:28Speaker 3: really good offense.
- 1:29Speaker 4: But clearly we're not.
- 1:31Speaker 3: So everybody's gotta take accountability, accountability, look in the mirror
- 1:36Speaker 3: and fix it. You know, I gotta play better, and
- 1:38Speaker 3: the leader this offense tell me, you know, the white
- 1:42Speaker 3: house gotta play better. The lines gotta play better, runing
- 1:44Speaker 3: bas got play better, got to coach better.
- 1:46Speaker 5: Me.
- 1:46Speaker 3: It's everybody, honestly, but you know we're standing around. We
- 1:51Speaker 3: gotta take we gotta take charge, or standing around waiting
- 1:54Speaker 3: on somebody to make a play. Defense is playing their
- 1:55Speaker 3: ass off. Last two weeks, if if the team doesn't
- 1:58Speaker 3: score more than twenty points in US, we should win
- 2:00Speaker 3: every week. We can't finish in the red zone today.
- 2:03Speaker 3: Too many mistakes in and out. The huddle communication wasn't good.
- 2:06Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it's a lot of things and
- 2:10Speaker 3: you know, fortunately and unfortunately it's what pisses you off
- 2:12Speaker 3: after the game. A lot of it we control, but
- 2:15Speaker 3: you know we control it, but we're not doing it right.
- 2:17Speaker 3: So until we do it right, it's a it's a
- 2:19Speaker 3: different story.
- 2:19Speaker 2: So that's quarterback Trevor Lawrence.
- 2:22Speaker 1: Full press conference available at Jaguars Dot common Jaguars YouTube.
- 2:25Speaker 1: We welcome in CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco and
- 2:28Speaker 1: Hall of Fame left tackle Tony Boselli. And I think
- 2:31Speaker 1: that about Pete sums up the day yesterday.
- 2:35Speaker 5: No it doesn't. It doesn't quite sum it up. There's
- 2:38Speaker 5: more to it. There's more to it here we go.
- 2:41Speaker 5: It's more to it than that.
- 2:43Speaker 6: I mean, look, I watched the tape today and it
- 2:46Speaker 6: isn't good on offense.
- 2:47Speaker 5: I'm telling you right now, it's not good on offense.
- 2:49Speaker 6: And I got a whole book over here of little
- 2:52Speaker 6: observations from that offensive tape. And I don't know if
- 2:55Speaker 6: you've got a chance to watch it, Tony, but it
- 2:58Speaker 6: was ug l y. And I'll be honest with you.
- 3:02Speaker 6: They need to make some changes on that offensive line.
- 3:04Speaker 7: I will Pete.
- 3:05Speaker 4: I texted you and JP capital U capital L capital
- 3:10Speaker 4: G capital y last night.
- 3:12Speaker 7: I watched it last night.
- 3:13Speaker 1: Oh no, that was spelled wrong. If you did it wrong,
- 3:16Speaker 1: you spelled it right.
- 3:17Speaker 7: When you tell us.
- 3:18Speaker 4: Oh yeah, what I say, U L G L L
- 3:23Speaker 4: I met you g l U g L Y.
- 3:25Speaker 7: Thank you it was.
- 3:27Speaker 4: Well, I've been I've been up. I got about three
- 3:29Speaker 4: hours of sleep last night because I flew to Canton
- 3:32Speaker 4: right after the game. There might have been a couple
- 3:35Speaker 4: of Hall of Famers when I showed up in the lobby,
- 3:38Speaker 4: would not let me go to bed right away, and
- 3:40Speaker 4: so and then had a six thirty am wake up
- 3:43Speaker 4: call for a charity outing. So my brain is not
- 3:46Speaker 4: working one hundred percent right now, so bear with so.
- 3:50Speaker 6: So that's usually the way it is on this show.
- 3:53Speaker 6: So you're probably at fifty percent.
- 3:56Speaker 7: Yeah, I got hit head for a living. So, but I.
- 4:02Speaker 4: Will say this, it is ugly, really ugly. I don't
- 4:09Speaker 4: like the defense. Yes, gave gave up eighteen points, really
- 4:14Speaker 4: gave up sixteen. But I you can't get controlled like
- 4:19Speaker 4: you did in the first half to say that they
- 4:22Speaker 4: played well against that unit tackle defense. That's back up.
- 4:28Speaker 4: That's a bad quarterback backup, running back, backup, tight end
- 4:33Speaker 4: backup tackles like and they were on the field the
- 4:38Speaker 4: entire first half. By the way, if it's not for
- 4:43Speaker 4: Amari Cooper dropped pass, it might have been even worse.
- 4:50Speaker 5: I mean, so that's someone where Jones fell, right, Yeah.
- 4:53Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not saying that the defense is the problem.
- 4:56Speaker 5: But they weren't. But they weren't as dominant as they
- 4:58Speaker 5: should be.
- 4:59Speaker 4: Oh, defenses playing better, the better football of both units.
- 5:03Speaker 4: They're playing good enough to win. Trevor's right about that.
- 5:06Speaker 4: You give up twenty against the Dolphins, and you give up,
- 5:09Speaker 4: you know, sixteen against the Cleveland Browns, you should win
- 5:12Speaker 4: those games.
- 5:13Speaker 7: And it is more on the offense.
- 5:16Speaker 4: But the and the offense is atrocious last night right now,
- 5:18Speaker 4: it's just not good.
- 5:20Speaker 5: It's terrible.
- 5:20Speaker 4: And I don't know, like it's not good at all.
- 5:24Speaker 4: And I go back to on this show. We talked
- 5:27Speaker 4: about it at length. I talked about it on the
- 5:30Speaker 4: Monday morning before I took the offseason off. And what
- 5:34Speaker 4: was this thing we talked about last year, the last
- 5:37Speaker 4: half of the season when they were on that losing
- 5:40Speaker 4: streak and playing themselves out of the playoffs.
- 5:43Speaker 7: Defensive line.
- 5:45Speaker 4: If you can't control the line of scrimmage, if you
- 5:47Speaker 4: can't get third and one, if you can't run when
- 5:49Speaker 4: you have to, if you can't protect the quarterback, you
- 5:52Speaker 4: can't win in this league. You can't. There's just no
- 5:57Speaker 4: two ways about it.
- 5:59Speaker 6: And by the way, it is an epidemic in the NFL.
- 6:02Speaker 6: It's not just to this team, but it's worse here.
- 6:05Speaker 5: It's worse.
- 6:06Speaker 4: And by the way, it's it's other teams are struggling,
- 6:10Speaker 4: but they don't have all five of their starters playing either.
- 6:13Speaker 4: Pete correct and I'm not. And by the way, and
- 6:17Speaker 4: I think it does impact the quarterback because the quarterback
- 6:20Speaker 4: wasn't good either.
- 6:21Speaker 7: No, he was not and left early.
- 6:23Speaker 4: And I think his eyes came down at times to
- 6:26Speaker 4: the rush because he's moving around and he's getting out
- 6:29Speaker 4: of there.
- 6:29Speaker 1: And he's sailing passes in certain moments. Things are just
- 6:32Speaker 1: not looking right in general.
- 6:34Speaker 4: Look it right, And.
- 6:34Speaker 7: Pete showed it on X the and I saw it
- 6:37Speaker 7: on tape.
- 6:40Speaker 4: A touchdown that they ended up having to settle for
- 6:42Speaker 4: three because they couldn't get it in after they got
- 6:44Speaker 4: stuffed by Travis etn going backwards the next play. You know,
- 6:49Speaker 4: Brian Thomas Jr. A little in cut, very great route combination,
- 6:54Speaker 4: but he didn't he.
- 6:54Speaker 6: Didn't, Okay, in fairness to Trevor on that one, Brian
- 6:57Speaker 6: Thomas didn't exactly.
- 6:58Speaker 4: Put He's got to go, He's got to put his
- 7:01Speaker 4: foot in the ground.
- 7:02Speaker 5: By the way, there's a lot of that on the
- 7:04Speaker 5: tape too. I don't know if you noticed that too.
- 7:07Speaker 5: Those receivers don't exactly go all out all the time.
- 7:12Speaker 7: Let's put it this way.
- 7:13Speaker 4: It needs to be crisper because the ball needs to
- 7:17Speaker 4: get out right now, and so everyone has to play better.
- 7:21Speaker 4: Trevor's right, he needs to be better like he like.
- 7:23Speaker 4: There was no reason in that play. I don't care
- 7:25Speaker 4: how bad the route was.
- 7:27Speaker 3: Now.
- 7:27Speaker 4: Maybe the bad route got him off of it early.
- 7:30Speaker 4: I don't think so.
- 7:31Speaker 5: No, he got out of their way too fast.
- 7:33Speaker 8: Race.
- 7:33Speaker 4: Really, there wasn't pressure, but I think, but guess what,
- 7:36Speaker 4: and I'll never uh I remember, uh.
- 7:44Speaker 7: I remember when I played.
- 7:45Speaker 4: One of the things that you know, just used to
- 7:49Speaker 4: drive me crazy about Mike Maser is you know he
- 7:53Speaker 4: used to be screaming at us pu around all the time,
- 7:56Speaker 4: just scream at us incessantly.
- 7:57Speaker 7: But during the season.
- 7:58Speaker 4: I'll never forget at times if Mark left early or
- 8:04Speaker 4: maybe miss something or whatever, he would say, guys, hey, listen,
- 8:08Speaker 4: this is on you because.
- 8:09Speaker 8: The last ten plays you've gotten beat and he's getting
- 8:12Speaker 8: hit in the face.
- 8:13Speaker 4: What do you expect just because all of a sudden
- 8:15Speaker 4: it's good that he's just gonna sit in there and
- 8:17Speaker 4: trust you guys, that's not how it works, you know.
- 8:22Speaker 4: And so yes, Brian Thomas Junior needs to run better
- 8:24Speaker 4: routes and everyone needs to play better now. I think
- 8:27Speaker 4: Brian Thomas Junior is also the biggest bright spot right
- 8:30Speaker 4: now in the season just watching him fly down the.
- 8:33Speaker 6: Field correct and they need to do more of that.
- 8:36Speaker 6: By the way, I'll get to more of that coming up.
- 8:38Speaker 7: But it's pete.
- 8:39Speaker 4: I don't care how much you run Brian Thomas Junior
- 8:43Speaker 4: down the field and how much better the routes get
- 8:46Speaker 4: by you know Ingram or Dave Davis or Kirk or whatever.
- 8:53Speaker 4: If you don't protect, if you don't establish buying a scrimmage,
- 8:58Speaker 4: if you don't punch people in the mountain and move
- 9:01Speaker 4: them and control it, it's gonna be hard to win.
- 9:05Speaker 7: And we've used this example.
- 9:06Speaker 4: I've used it countless times.
- 9:07Speaker 7: So if you listen to the show, you've heard this.
- 9:09Speaker 4: I go back to the greatest offensive team, the greatest
- 9:12Speaker 4: football team in the history of this league, the eight
- 9:15Speaker 4: and oh Patriots with the greatest quarterback to ever laced
- 9:18Speaker 4: them up and they got dominated and couldn't score points.
- 9:23Speaker 4: Why because they couldn't block four guys up front. The
- 9:28Speaker 4: New York Giants whipped them four on five, hit the
- 9:32Speaker 4: quarterback and won the game. That's how football is played.
- 9:37Speaker 4: The game is Football is played in the trenches. I
- 9:40Speaker 4: don't care all this fancy horizontal crap and all this
- 9:44Speaker 4: stuff that the league's gone to, and it's you know,
- 9:47Speaker 4: it's fast break basketball, it's wide open blah blah blah
- 9:50Speaker 4: blah blah.
- 9:52Speaker 7: Don't care.
- 9:53Speaker 4: The good teams, the teams that win it all, the
- 9:55Speaker 4: teams that hold the trophy at the end of the year,
- 9:58Speaker 4: the teams that win weekend and weekend out run the
- 10:01Speaker 4: ball and protect the quarterback. They win the line of scrimmage. Correct,
- 10:05Speaker 4: That's how this game's played.
- 10:07Speaker 6: But there's ways to try and win that line of scrimmage.
- 10:10Speaker 6: When you're not good enough on that line of scrim
- 10:12Speaker 6: I'm not saying that.
- 10:12Speaker 4: Beat, I'm not saying it has to be done one.
- 10:14Speaker 5: Way, correct, But you're right.
- 10:17Speaker 6: In the end, it's always win the line of scrimmage.
- 10:19Speaker 6: And this team, and this team has done a variety
- 10:22Speaker 6: of things to try and win the line of scrimmage,
- 10:24Speaker 6: including max protect. How many times do they max protect
- 10:28Speaker 6: on Sunday with seven guys in that and two man routes,
- 10:32Speaker 6: and if I'm not mistaken, he took a sack on
- 10:34Speaker 6: a two man route when he held the ball. But
- 10:37Speaker 6: if you go back to that play, and this is
- 10:39Speaker 6: another example of the wide receivers being a little at fault.
- 10:42Speaker 6: If you go back to that play, Gabe Davis the
- 10:44Speaker 6: play zone, Gabe Davis comes open in that little area
- 10:48Speaker 6: in the middle of his zone.
- 10:49Speaker 5: And instead of sitting down, and this has.
- 10:51Speaker 6: Been a problem they've had for a couple of years now,
- 10:53Speaker 6: instead of sitting down, not just him because he's new, obviously,
- 10:57Speaker 6: he keeps.
- 10:57Speaker 5: Running and runs right into the man in the middle
- 10:59Speaker 5: of the field.
- 11:00Speaker 6: Ever, has nowhere to go with the football and has
- 11:01Speaker 6: to take a sack on another two man route. There
- 11:05Speaker 6: was another one he actually throws to a covered Gabe Davis, remember,
- 11:09Speaker 6: in the middle of the field, and the guy almost
- 11:10Speaker 6: intercepted the ball. Guys aren't open on those routes at all,
- 11:13Speaker 6: and they max protected him. And you know, Morse gave
- 11:17Speaker 6: up the sack on that, but that's he did a
- 11:18Speaker 6: good job in pass protection.
- 11:20Speaker 5: He held it for an hour.
- 11:21Speaker 4: He was fine even I mean, if you look at
- 11:23Speaker 4: the if you look at the safety. Everyone wants to
- 11:26Speaker 4: blame Morris. Morris picked up first of all. Ezra Cleveland
- 11:29Speaker 4: gets beat on the snap count on outside, that's on
- 11:33Speaker 4: inside swim. Morris does a great job of covering it up.
- 11:37Speaker 4: But Cam gets whipped off the edge where there's nowhere
- 11:41Speaker 4: for Trevor to sit back there, so he has to
- 11:43Speaker 4: step up, and he steps up right into the sack.
- 11:46Speaker 6: You know what that reminded me of today. By the way,
- 11:49Speaker 6: when I heard Doug Peterson. You heard what Doug Peterson said, right, No,
- 11:53Speaker 6: it's a touchdown to Brian Thomas because Brian Thomas ran
- 11:56Speaker 6: out up but he's wide open. You know what else
- 11:58Speaker 6: was a touchdown in a long time ago, way back
- 12:01Speaker 6: in nineteen ninety nine in the championship game, Stop Pete, Stop,
- 12:05Speaker 6: when Jimmy Smith was wide open deep down the deep
- 12:07Speaker 6: down the sideline when the Jaguars took a sack in
- 12:10Speaker 6: the end zone and the but the lineman got whipped
- 12:14Speaker 6: and the franchise hadn't been.
- 12:15Speaker 5: The same since.
- 12:16Speaker 6: That's that's what everybody because remember after the game, everybody said, oh, Jimmy,
- 12:19Speaker 6: that was a touchdown.
- 12:20Speaker 5: They don't if they blocked it.
- 12:21Speaker 4: Up, you know the game and I go back to
- 12:26Speaker 4: and JP, I think you were on the sideline with me.
- 12:29Speaker 4: We're playing against the uh it's in the it's in
- 12:32Speaker 4: the prese, it's in the camp when the Buccaneers were
- 12:35Speaker 4: in town and we're watching. In like three plays, Trevor
- 12:39Speaker 4: just unloaded one deep to Brian Thomas Junior and they
- 12:41Speaker 4: were touched and everyone's going crazy. And I looked at JP.
- 12:44Speaker 4: I said, that's a sack.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Yep.
- 12:46Speaker 1: There were a couple of those. Absolutely.
- 12:48Speaker 4: I got count about five plays later, same thing. Everyone's
- 12:51Speaker 4: going crazy. Brian Thomas Junior, fast Trevor beautiful throat.
- 12:55Speaker 1: On social media out there, Hey.
- 12:58Speaker 4: Pete, I looked at JP.
- 13:00Speaker 7: I'm like, that's a sack.
- 13:01Speaker 4: That Yeah, Like this is this isn't seven on seven, right,
- 13:06Speaker 4: this is football.
- 13:07Speaker 1: One more people, one more thought on this. We'll get
- 13:11Speaker 1: to the offensive line a little deeper. A little bit
- 13:13Speaker 1: later in the show. There were a couple of instances,
- 13:15Speaker 1: I think it was both in the same red zone
- 13:17Speaker 1: situation where they got to play in late or whatever
- 13:20Speaker 1: and then had to call it.
- 13:22Speaker 4: This is not high school, guys, This is like those
- 13:26Speaker 4: are problems high schools and college have.
- 13:28Speaker 7: This is the pros but how much does.
- 13:30Speaker 5: That my theory on that looks poorly coached. I'm sorry,
- 13:35Speaker 5: how much is.
- 13:36Speaker 1: How much does that add to the issues that the
- 13:38Speaker 1: players are having?
- 13:39Speaker 4: Obviously, well, I'll say this, and I think it's a
- 13:44Speaker 4: players league. I think it's about what players do and
- 13:47Speaker 4: whether they execute or not. Like we go back to
- 13:49Speaker 4: the sack we just talked about Brian Thomas junior wide open.
- 13:53Speaker 4: There was a number of play in the red zone
- 13:56Speaker 4: in cut great design play and Pete, I think you'd
- 13:58Speaker 4: agree there's a number of very well design plays both
- 14:01Speaker 4: running pass guys have to execute to get it done. However,
- 14:06Speaker 4: when it comes to this stuff, when it comes not
- 14:09Speaker 4: getting plays in and getting in and out of the huddle,
- 14:11Speaker 4: I put that one hundred percent on coaching, yep, because
- 14:14Speaker 4: you can't allow that at any point. What is your expectation?
- 14:20Speaker 4: What do you allow? And that is unacceptable to burn
- 14:24Speaker 4: two timeouts which ends up costing you a series at
- 14:27Speaker 4: the end of the half because you can't burn timeouts.
- 14:30Speaker 4: When Cleveland just is methodically eating two, three, five six
- 14:33Speaker 4: yards a time and you can't stop the clock, it
- 14:36Speaker 4: cost you a drive which could have cost you points
- 14:39Speaker 4: because you can't execute the basics that is coaching. I
- 14:44Speaker 4: will always get on the players more than the coaches
- 14:47Speaker 4: because I think it's a player's league and you can't
- 14:48Speaker 4: be a player and say this is our league. It's
- 14:50Speaker 4: a player's league and then blame the coaches when it
- 14:52Speaker 4: doesn't work out. But when it comes to the mechanics
- 14:55Speaker 4: in discipline and procedural and doing it right, I always
- 15:00Speaker 4: say you're either making it too hard for them because
- 15:03Speaker 4: the guys can't handle it, then your job as a
- 15:05Speaker 4: coach that is to take it off and make it easier.
- 15:08Speaker 6: But but I agree that's on coaching. You know what
- 15:12Speaker 6: else is on coaching effort?
- 15:15Speaker 1: I disagree there make their own effort right, they're probably.
- 15:19Speaker 4: You are a hypocrite if you blame the coach on that,
- 15:21Speaker 4: because I have told you and I have debated these
- 15:24Speaker 4: raw ross beaches are stupid.
- 15:26Speaker 5: No, no, no, stupid.
- 15:28Speaker 4: I agree to the individual. You can't get yourself ready,
- 15:31Speaker 4: that's on you. You're not approp So how is that coaching?
- 15:34Speaker 6: Okay, I agree with you, I agree, But if the guy, you're.
- 15:39Speaker 5: Not a guy.
- 15:40Speaker 6: If a guy's not playing and showing the right effort,
- 15:43Speaker 6: it's up to the coaches to point that out and
- 15:45Speaker 6: call them out on it.
- 15:46Speaker 4: That's what we don't know that they're not you.
- 15:49Speaker 5: You watched that take on Sunday? Did you not see?
- 15:53Speaker 4: Do you tell me? You tell me? And I said,
- 15:56Speaker 4: we said this on the air, and JP you were
- 15:59Speaker 4: watching it. I think you were in the stadium by
- 16:01Speaker 4: this time when the game's going on with Fred. There
- 16:03Speaker 4: was no juice on the side.
- 16:05Speaker 5: It didn't seem like there was any juice watching it
- 16:07Speaker 5: on TV.
- 16:08Speaker 4: There was no juice, no juice.
- 16:11Speaker 6: And and they played like they had no juice. And
- 16:14Speaker 6: you know, they're just the little things.
- 16:16Speaker 5: Tony. The route running that, the finishing your routes.
- 16:21Speaker 7: I'll give you a big one.
- 16:22Speaker 4: If I see everyone standing around watching our running back
- 16:26Speaker 4: or our receiver trying to finish the run and just
- 16:28Speaker 4: sitting there like they bought tickets and eating pipett correct,
- 16:31Speaker 4: I don't lose my mind.
- 16:33Speaker 6: Do you remember one where they were all lined up
- 16:34Speaker 6: on the right and it was a run on the inside,
- 16:36Speaker 6: and the three receivers like didn't even make an effort
- 16:38Speaker 6: to make it look like it was going to be
- 16:40Speaker 6: a player to there.
- 16:40Speaker 4: Sit the receivers, What about the offensive line? It just
- 16:43Speaker 4: sits there and watches.
- 16:44Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot of that and that annoys me.
- 16:48Speaker 6: And finishing blocks, you know, when you talk Tony, that's
- 16:52Speaker 6: another thing you always talk about.
- 16:53Speaker 5: That those guys fin they don't finish. They don't want to.
- 16:57Speaker 4: You want to get juice to going take someone and
- 16:59Speaker 4: throw them out of bound and land on get a
- 17:01Speaker 4: fifteen yarder in that situation and just start away of melee.
- 17:07Speaker 6: Where two games were two games, We're two games into
- 17:11Speaker 6: the season and this thing is unraveling. Can I say
- 17:14Speaker 6: that it is unraveling because this next two games will
- 17:17Speaker 6: decide where they're at. It's at Buffalo and at at
- 17:20Speaker 6: the Texans, Right, that's what it is. That's right, big Yeah,
- 17:24Speaker 6: good luck with that yet, me, you're staring zero to
- 17:27Speaker 6: four in the face. Unless you get your head out
- 17:29Speaker 6: of your behind.
- 17:30Speaker 2: We're back in a moment. We've got to come back.
- 17:32Speaker 1: We've got to take a break because we've got to
- 17:34Speaker 1: get into the offensive line a little bit more. That's
- 17:36Speaker 1: coming up also deep into this defensive performance.
- 17:41Speaker 2: Boys, a lot to get to in two.
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- 18:11Speaker 9: I think the confidences uh is still there, That's the thing.
- 18:14Speaker 9: And I think the communication is is probably the biggest
- 18:17Speaker 9: issues some of the hits yesterday was the fact that
- 18:20Speaker 9: whether it was Trevor or Mitch, I mean, these are
- 18:22Speaker 9: things we gotta we gotta fix, you know, making making
- 18:25Speaker 9: protection calls and letting guys, letting guys free. And then
- 18:28Speaker 9: the one on the safety is just a matter of
- 18:32Speaker 9: you know, just just execution down there. It wasn't it
- 18:35Speaker 9: wasn't necessarily a communication issue. And and then just having
- 18:38Speaker 9: a sense of awareness because we if we if we
- 18:40Speaker 9: pick up that that that defensive tackle right there, Uh,
- 18:44Speaker 9: there's a there's a big play uh to to Brian Thomas.
- 18:47Speaker 9: So those are all things that we've we've got to fix.
- 18:50Speaker 9: And then even in the run game, you know, this
- 18:53Speaker 9: is probably going to be the fastest sort of downhill
- 18:59Speaker 9: line backer group we may see all season, you know,
- 19:02Speaker 9: and these guys really attacked the line of scrimmage and
- 19:05Speaker 9: there were some good things, some good positive things, some good, nice, nice,
- 19:08Speaker 9: uh you know runs that were in there, and then
- 19:11Speaker 9: there were some some ones that that we we just
- 19:14Speaker 9: we failed to execute on. So you know, confidence is
- 19:18Speaker 9: still high and and it's it's going to remain high,
- 19:21Speaker 9: and you know, we just continue to jell these these
- 19:24Speaker 9: five guys together.
- 19:26Speaker 1: Head coach Doug Peterson today on a zoom conversation with
- 19:30Speaker 1: the media Welcome Back as Jaguars Happy Hour presented by
- 19:33Speaker 1: Jet Home Loans on ten toon XL, Jaguars dot Com,
- 19:37Speaker 1: Jaguars YouTube. JP Shaddick Tony was selling Pete Prisco, that's
- 19:41Speaker 1: the head coach, discussing the offensive line and the confidence
- 19:44Speaker 1: still there a JP.
- 19:46Speaker 6: Is there no open locker room on Monday and no
- 19:51Speaker 6: face to face meeting with.
- 19:52Speaker 1: Today's Today's different because it's Monday night football this week,
- 19:56Speaker 1: so they moved the schedule back a day. I don't
- 19:58Speaker 1: think the players of Fish, I mean, they were some
- 20:01Speaker 1: a round, but I think tomorrow is their day to
- 20:03Speaker 1: be have open locker room on Monday. What would be
- 20:06Speaker 1: their Monday technically next week and then they're off on Wednday,
- 20:10Speaker 1: off on Wednesday on their regular off day. That's right.
- 20:12Speaker 1: So he met with the media last Monday, and then
- 20:16Speaker 1: the locker room was opened last Monday as well.
- 20:19Speaker 4: Good, but uh, a lot more restrictions with the CBA
- 20:23Speaker 4: what coaches can and can't do. But Pete, you think
- 20:27Speaker 4: Tom would have given us Monday and Wednesday off if
- 20:29Speaker 4: we had played like we did.
- 20:31Speaker 1: The first two weeks.
- 20:32Speaker 6: The other thing is is my good buddy Mike Biaki
- 20:35Speaker 6: would have been happy with the way things are now
- 20:36Speaker 6: because he used to sit and write something in the
- 20:38Speaker 6: press box and be scared to go to the locker
- 20:40Speaker 6: room the next.
- 20:43Speaker 7: I mean, and I don't.
- 20:45Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not saying Tom was right in it,
- 20:47Speaker 4: but just make because today that they're limited by rules
- 20:51Speaker 4: of how much they can actually do and can't do.
- 20:53Speaker 4: And so Tony, let's just to everyone understands that because
- 20:58Speaker 4: we're playing next Monday night, what Doug is trying to
- 21:01Speaker 4: do and the staff has tries to keep everything as
- 21:03Speaker 4: normal as possible, So you just move everything back, so
- 21:06Speaker 4: Tuesday becomes a Monday, Wednesdays and Tuesday so and so
- 21:08Speaker 4: forth through the week.
- 21:09Speaker 6: Sundays Sundays your Saturday and and so that's very normal.
- 21:15Speaker 4: I think everyone in the league believed in that, except
- 21:17Speaker 4: for Tom. He was more of like, I'm gonna punish
- 21:21Speaker 4: you because you got to stink.
- 21:22Speaker 6: But he used to move the days up though, like
- 21:23Speaker 6: you're your Thursday Monday night game.
- 21:26Speaker 5: He'd move up. He's still coming on Monday though.
- 21:27Speaker 3: No.
- 21:28Speaker 4: But the best was what he would do, Pete. He'd
- 21:30Speaker 4: make it. We have two Thursdays this week, right, Yeah,
- 21:32Speaker 4: we go Monday's Monday, Tuesday's your day off, Wednesday's normal Wednesday,
- 21:36Speaker 4: and then we're gonna do Thursday twice right Friday. Wait,
- 21:39Speaker 4: a second Thursday of the week. You have two Thursdays.
- 21:42Speaker 6: Well, you know what, looking back on it, this team
- 21:45Speaker 6: could use two thursdays. I mean, you know you heard
- 21:50Speaker 6: what he was talking about. The offensive line. I think
- 21:52Speaker 6: I think we got to start there. I mean, everybody
- 21:53Speaker 6: in town, that's all they're talking about, right, the offensive line.
- 21:55Speaker 5: The offensive line. The offensive line.
- 21:57Speaker 7: Well, Pete, because.
- 22:00Speaker 4: What do we I mean last year they had a
- 22:03Speaker 4: bunch of injuries, but it is what it is. Everyone
- 22:06Speaker 4: has injuries, and they were one of the worst. And
- 22:09Speaker 4: I don't know, like this is I don't know what
- 22:11Speaker 4: these metrics and how they come up with them, but
- 22:13Speaker 4: supposedly the quote unquote experts based on statistics had them
- 22:18Speaker 4: as the thirty first or thirty second best offensive line
- 22:21Speaker 4: if I'm correct.
- 22:22Speaker 7: I mean that's why I don't okay, great, just.
- 22:26Speaker 4: From the eye test and watching tape, I did not
- 22:28Speaker 4: think they performed very well correct last year, and we
- 22:31Speaker 4: talked about it, so okay. We were told all off
- 22:35Speaker 4: season that they were very confident in their group and
- 22:41Speaker 4: they felt like they just needed to be healthy and
- 22:45Speaker 4: that the only change they were going to make was
- 22:49Speaker 4: at center because they weren't got Mitch Morris, and they
- 22:53Speaker 4: felt like I think I heard this, they had two
- 22:55Speaker 4: quality centers and they felt very good about the offensive line,
- 23:01Speaker 4: and so they made a bet that the same guys
- 23:04Speaker 4: they had last year outside of the center, we're gonna
- 23:09Speaker 4: because they were gonna be healthy and playing together, we're
- 23:11Speaker 4: going to elevate the performance greatly because if their last
- 23:15Speaker 4: like at least middle of the road, so you know,
- 23:18Speaker 4: big jump in their production in their performance. That's what
- 23:23Speaker 4: we were told. There were a lot of people who
- 23:26Speaker 4: thought they should, you know, be more aggressive on the
- 23:29Speaker 4: offensive line, make changes whatever, they said, Trent Doug the group.
- 23:34Speaker 7: Said, nope, we're good. We are good with what we got.
- 23:38Speaker 4: Did nothing in the draft outside of drafting a fourth
- 23:40Speaker 4: rounder that's not gonna play this year. If he does,
- 23:43Speaker 4: that's not good. And and so I think people are like, well,
- 23:48Speaker 4: wait a second, you guys told us this was the
- 23:51Speaker 4: group healthy. Got a new center, which, by the way,
- 23:56Speaker 4: Mitch Morris is playing the best of anyone after two
- 23:59Speaker 4: weeks in my.
- 24:00Speaker 5: Opinion, correct, no doubt, no doubt.
- 24:02Speaker 7: Ezra Cleveland is next.
- 24:04Speaker 5: In my opinion, it wasn't great the other day though,
- 24:07Speaker 5: but he's.
- 24:08Speaker 4: But he's the second best right now. And the biggest
- 24:13Speaker 4: glaring issue on offense is the offensive line in my opinion. Now,
- 24:19Speaker 4: Pete makes great points, there's plenty of blame to go around.
- 24:24Speaker 4: Everyone needs to step up their game. Receivers, Trevor was
- 24:28Speaker 4: said up very beautifully. He needs to play better. Receivers
- 24:31Speaker 4: need to play better. Backs need to play better. I'm
- 24:35Speaker 4: just of a firm believer everything starts up front. When
- 24:37Speaker 4: I was a player, I felt like that I felt
- 24:39Speaker 4: like the onus was on us. I felt like if
- 24:43Speaker 4: we blocked, if we ramblock and we pass protected, we
- 24:48Speaker 4: were going to win.
- 24:50Speaker 1: I have a question. We heard a lot about, Hey,
- 24:52Speaker 1: we're going to do this more three point stance and
- 24:55Speaker 1: have lower get off and all that stuff on the offensive.
- 24:58Speaker 1: Have you seen that come through yet or is that
- 25:01Speaker 1: is that real?
- 25:03Speaker 6: Yeah, they're in three points stands more, they're not coming off,
- 25:06Speaker 6: they're not moving people out of the three points.
- 25:10Speaker 4: Ezra's I mean, Mitch is the best offensive line with
- 25:14Speaker 4: god and and stays low, and he's physical and he
- 25:17Speaker 4: tries to finish right.
- 25:19Speaker 6: He's off to a good start this year. If he
- 25:22Speaker 6: looked at him, yep.
- 25:23Speaker 4: And and I'll give Era credit. Ezra like plays it
- 25:27Speaker 4: like he tries to.
- 25:29Speaker 5: He's just physically not strong.
- 25:30Speaker 4: Though he's but he comes off the ball right, okay,
- 25:36Speaker 4: And they need to make a change it right guard.
- 25:38Speaker 5: Just let's say it. I've been saying it all off season.
- 25:40Speaker 5: Nobody will say it. I'll say it. The kids over
- 25:42Speaker 5: The guy's done, he's overwhelmed, he can't play. He's done.
- 25:46Speaker 4: I mean.
- 25:49Speaker 6: Sometimes when he got beaten past protection, even a couple
- 25:52Speaker 6: of times the run game, he doesn't move anybody. It's
- 25:55Speaker 6: I mean, look, we it's it's been a nice career
- 25:58Speaker 6: for the guy.
- 25:59Speaker 5: He's come to the end. He can't play anymore.
- 26:02Speaker 7: My bit, my big I mean, you're you're gonna arguement
- 26:06Speaker 7: on that.
- 26:06Speaker 4: I'm gonna say my bigger concern beat is the two tackles.
- 26:09Speaker 5: Well that and that's a whole other issue.
- 26:11Speaker 6: But I'm gonna start talking about the inside because the
- 26:14Speaker 6: right tackle.
- 26:14Speaker 4: I hyped him up as one of the best right
- 26:16Speaker 4: tackles they have the chance one football.
- 26:18Speaker 5: He's been awful.
- 26:19Speaker 6: Now the ones the one sack where he got beat,
- 26:22Speaker 6: or the one he tripped on the running backs feet.
- 26:24Speaker 4: That that doesn't I don't even count that. Someone brought
- 26:26Speaker 4: Damn Hickin brought that up this morning. I'm like, damn,
- 26:28Speaker 4: stop the count like he got tripped. Have you ever
- 26:31Speaker 4: been tripping before? Yeah, nothing he can.
- 26:33Speaker 5: Do about it.
- 26:35Speaker 6: But there were so many other there were so many
- 26:37Speaker 6: other plays where he wasn't good well, and the right
- 26:40Speaker 6: the left tackle, by the way, for twenty one million
- 26:43Speaker 6: dollar cap and close to being that kind of value,
- 26:46Speaker 6: he got whipped all and now he's playing one of
- 26:48Speaker 6: the best in the league.
- 26:49Speaker 5: I don't care.
- 26:51Speaker 1: Do they leave him one on one a lot out
- 26:52Speaker 1: there on my house, Garrett where they help him out.
- 26:55Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's called football.
- 26:58Speaker 5: Block, even his run game block and get into that.
- 27:01Speaker 6: That's what I think Doug's talking about, getting to this
- 27:03Speaker 6: second level, and I'm going to go through that sequence
- 27:05Speaker 6: of runs. Tony, you remember that play when they brought
- 27:08Speaker 6: in sixty two thousand tight ends.
- 27:10Speaker 7: Well, but you know, but Pete, just unfairness.
- 27:12Speaker 4: I saw your comment on Actually I didn't want to
- 27:14Speaker 4: call you out because we're brothers. Reason they had, no,
- 27:18Speaker 4: it's not worth it because it's because then people jump
- 27:21Speaker 4: in and they don't they don't know the context. What
- 27:24Speaker 4: I wanted to tell you is the reason that they
- 27:26Speaker 4: had six offensive line and two tight ends because Evan
- 27:30Speaker 4: Ingram got hurt and so that was part of three
- 27:33Speaker 4: tight end package, which is actually they're very good at
- 27:35Speaker 4: if you think about it, because they bring Ingram in,
- 27:37Speaker 4: who's like a receiver. Brenton Strange is the guy who
- 27:40Speaker 4: can move. We saw him that was a positive yesterday
- 27:42Speaker 4: and is a very good blocker. And then you have
- 27:45Speaker 4: Luke Ferrell, so they force the defense. What they're trying
- 27:48Speaker 4: to do is force the defense to go big people
- 27:50Speaker 4: there and then they can run or pass play action
- 27:53Speaker 4: pass that I actually liked the concept.
- 27:55Speaker 5: I don't like it not far.
- 27:57Speaker 4: That's fine, but I'm saying, but it wasn't like they
- 27:59Speaker 4: were trying to go goal. But they only have three
- 28:01Speaker 4: tight ends on the roster.
- 28:03Speaker 5: So they get it, and I get it. I get
- 28:05Speaker 5: why you did that.
- 28:06Speaker 6: But on first and ten, with with that quarterback and
- 28:09Speaker 6: those supposed receivers, I don't see that.
- 28:12Speaker 5: And and and in fairness.
- 28:13Speaker 6: To him, I'm gonna give them credit for this because
- 28:15Speaker 6: if if Robinson gets to the linebacker, makes the block,
- 28:18Speaker 6: Etn cuts off the backside here and has a good run. Okay,
- 28:22Speaker 6: but that's that sequence Robinson didn't get to. He had
- 28:24Speaker 6: trouble all day getting to the linebacker. He did so
- 28:28Speaker 6: the next because.
- 28:29Speaker 4: Here the mean one of the reasons is because I
- 28:32Speaker 4: was guilty of this, so I have done this wrong.
- 28:36Speaker 4: And Mike Major's voices echoing in my ears is don't
- 28:41Speaker 4: go to where they are, go to where they're going
- 28:44Speaker 4: to be.
- 28:45Speaker 5: It's like geometry.
- 28:46Speaker 4: Go to where they are they are faster.
- 28:48Speaker 6: Than you go to where you think they're gonna be,
- 28:51Speaker 6: because then you can retrack if they don't get there,
- 28:55Speaker 6: right I I And so anyway, so that little sequence
- 28:58Speaker 6: that happened then on second down, second and twelve play
- 29:02Speaker 6: action out of the second and twelve, like they give
- 29:05Speaker 6: a crap, you're gonna run the ball there?
- 29:07Speaker 5: I didn't. It just doesn't work.
- 29:09Speaker 4: And then I don't mind it.
- 29:11Speaker 6: And then the backup beat on the back up eat
- 29:14Speaker 6: right on the on the blitz he got sacked.
- 29:17Speaker 5: And then third and whatever that was? What was it? JP?
- 29:20Speaker 6: Third and seventeen? What do you think they threw on
- 29:23Speaker 6: that one? The bubble screen and it was dropped.
- 29:28Speaker 7: You're basically just going to give That's like the old draw.
- 29:35Speaker 5: That's that's just you're saying. You're punting is what?
- 29:38Speaker 2: Why not throw it up?
- 29:39Speaker 6: Take a stap and throwing down the field fifty five
- 29:41Speaker 6: yards and then you get a pass interference penalty.
- 29:44Speaker 4: Because you're backed up and you don't want a chance
- 29:47Speaker 4: of intercepting and having five big guys chasing trying to
- 29:50Speaker 4: go cover a corner and go tackle.
- 29:52Speaker 6: Throw it to the sideline and the worst case scenario,
- 29:54Speaker 6: it's a fifty to fifty ball. You might get a
- 29:55Speaker 6: passing references, you might get a catch, you might get
- 29:57Speaker 6: an interception. If so, you tackle them right there and
- 29:59Speaker 6: that's the end you get.
- 30:00Speaker 4: It's like a or because you're not protecting you can
- 30:02Speaker 4: get you quarterback.
- 30:04Speaker 5: That's playing not to win and playing to lose. Tony,
- 30:06Speaker 5: that's what that.
- 30:07Speaker 7: I actually disagree with you there.
- 30:09Speaker 4: Sometimes punting is not a bad play.
- 30:11Speaker 5: When you know, I get it.
- 30:12Speaker 6: You don't get me wrong because I think too many
- 30:13Speaker 6: idiots don't punt anymore.
- 30:15Speaker 5: But but that scenario was okay to throw it down
- 30:17Speaker 5: the field.
- 30:17Speaker 4: But but yeah, I just.
- 30:22Speaker 5: I get that.
- 30:23Speaker 4: You want to talk about the right guard. And we
- 30:26Speaker 4: talked about last year. Brandon Sheriffs had a fabulous career,
- 30:30Speaker 4: was one of the top very good player in this league,
- 30:33Speaker 4: very good players.
- 30:33Speaker 5: Warrior A warrior is.
- 30:35Speaker 4: A tough suy. I love him his mentality. But we
- 30:39Speaker 4: talked about it last year at end of the year,
- 30:40Speaker 4: it just doesn't look like he has his legs anymore.
- 30:42Speaker 4: Where he can he has the power to move people,
- 30:44Speaker 4: and that's that's not.
- 30:46Speaker 6: And you got beat in past protection on a couple
- 30:48Speaker 6: of plays which he hadn't been doing. I mean, what
- 30:50Speaker 6: do you do there though? Do you go to do
- 30:52Speaker 6: you go to the Hodges? You go to what do
- 30:55Speaker 6: you do you have to You have to do something.
- 30:57Speaker 6: You can't keep putting the five same five out there
- 30:59Speaker 6: and have this a result. Something needs to happen.
- 31:02Speaker 7: Pete, you did nothing in the off.
- 31:04Speaker 5: Season, Okay, but you gotta try something.
- 31:08Speaker 4: Pete. You have a guy in Hodges who is a
- 31:13Speaker 4: young guy who I think is a starting Calibourn player.
- 31:16Speaker 4: That's I mean, but he needs reps. So as a
- 31:19Speaker 4: coaching staff, you're sitting it into Let's not forget the
- 31:24Speaker 4: owner made it clear he expects to win. Now we
- 31:28Speaker 4: all know what that means. And if you're the coach,
- 31:34Speaker 4: you're the coaching staff.
- 31:35Speaker 7: In the GM.
- 31:36Speaker 4: Do you want to trust a guy who was is
- 31:40Speaker 4: basically a rookie, he's never played in a real game,
- 31:45Speaker 4: and you're going to replace a.
- 31:46Speaker 7: Guy that you at least know.
- 31:50Speaker 4: Is going to line up, go to the right place,
- 31:52Speaker 4: is getting to get to be you know, have poised,
- 31:56Speaker 4: you know all the things that sheriff does.
- 31:58Speaker 5: Oh but that okay, but I mean he laid guy yesterday.
- 32:04Speaker 4: Okay, he got petic I get that, Pete. I'm not
- 32:06Speaker 4: defending him. I'm telling you, when you don't make decisions
- 32:09Speaker 4: in the off season to go build your offensive line,
- 32:12Speaker 4: you have limited decisions. Okay.
- 32:13Speaker 6: So we're not gonna argue that because we both agree.
- 32:17Speaker 6: Falk he's a blame for that. He's at playing. I
- 32:21Speaker 6: don't know how I'll blame him for it.
- 32:23Speaker 4: That's fine. My point is I'm not your point, Fingers,
- 32:25Speaker 4: because I don't know exactly. I mean, ultimately it's the
- 32:28Speaker 4: GM's responsibility. But how they make decisions, I have no idea.
- 32:33Speaker 7: I don't sit.
- 32:34Speaker 4: I don't know how he does up created a center.
- 32:36Speaker 6: They upgraded at center and that show, So why didn't
- 32:38Speaker 6: you upgrade everywhere else or anywhere else?
- 32:41Speaker 1: We've got plenty of show. We've got a whole second hour.
- 32:44Speaker 1: We can get back into this offensive line discussion. We
- 32:47Speaker 1: do have to talk about the defense when we come back.
- 32:49Speaker 1: It was another piece of this football game.
- 32:51Speaker 5: All forty two of them will play too.
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- 33:19Speaker 10: Disappointed that you know we didn't come out with a
- 33:22Speaker 10: win and we're going to find a way to do enough,
- 33:25Speaker 10: make enough place to beat them. So definitely frustrated starting
- 33:29Speaker 10: off our season zero and two, but you know, league
- 33:35Speaker 10: doesn't stop. We got to find a way to get better,
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- 34:09Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour JP Shadwick, Pete Prisco, Tony BUSSELLI
- 34:13Speaker 1: well the Jaguars defense on the field for over twenty
- 34:16Speaker 1: minutes in the first half of yesterday's game, and Monterrek
- 34:21Speaker 1: Brown led the way. He had to start for Tyson Campbell,
- 34:24Speaker 1: who's uninjured. Reserve Darnell Savage was a scratch with an
- 34:28Speaker 1: injury during the week in practice, so Jari and Jones
- 34:32Speaker 1: got a lot of time in the game. Josh hanz
- 34:35Speaker 1: Allen put together a sack, so did Foyer Lucan on
- 34:37Speaker 1: a blitz later in the game. I mean, they gave
- 34:40Speaker 1: up sixteen points, Pete, but it didn't at the end
- 34:44Speaker 1: of the day feel like it. That first half just
- 34:46Speaker 1: was tough to get off the field. They didn't at all.
- 34:49Speaker 1: In fact, they scored on every drive against them.
- 34:52Speaker 5: Yeah, and look they are bad.
- 34:54Speaker 6: We can't criticize it for bebhead like Tony says, they
- 34:56Speaker 6: only give it up sixteen point.
- 34:58Speaker 5: They gave up sixteen points.
- 34:59Speaker 1: On some Yeah, thirty six for the season in two games.
- 35:03Speaker 5: Yeah, you're supposed to win those games.
- 35:05Speaker 6: When you're supposed to have a good offense and a
- 35:07Speaker 6: quarterback who's the number one overall pick and wide receivers
- 35:10Speaker 6: who spent a lot of money on and drafted high
- 35:12Speaker 6: with capitol.
- 35:13Speaker 5: You're supposed to score more than that to win the game.
- 35:15Speaker 6: If you would have told anybody before the season that
- 35:18Speaker 6: the Jacksonville defense held Miami and Cleveland to thirty six
- 35:22Speaker 6: total points, you would have stepped aside and said, I'll
- 35:24Speaker 6: take it. They would have been to and oh, well
- 35:25Speaker 6: they're not because they're offense stakes right now. The defense
- 35:28Speaker 6: has been okay, it hadn't been dominant. You're playing backup tackles,
- 35:33Speaker 6: you're playing no tight end who's a big part of
- 35:35Speaker 6: their offense. You're playing a quarterback who's not very good
- 35:37Speaker 6: right now, and then backup running back and you couldn't
- 35:41Speaker 6: get them off the field.
- 35:43Speaker 5: I mean, twenty minutes. Isn't that the time of possession
- 35:46Speaker 5: of the.
- 35:46Speaker 2: First the first half just over twenty minutes too, And
- 35:48Speaker 2: if I'm.
- 35:48Speaker 6: Not mistaken, Trevor Lawrence throo eleven passes in the first half?
- 35:51Speaker 5: Is that correct?
- 35:52Speaker 2: For sixteen yards? By the way?
- 35:54Speaker 6: Okay again, and that goes back to trying to get
- 35:57Speaker 6: in a rhythm when the other team has the ball.
- 35:58Speaker 6: You can't get into annie you're pressing all the time.
- 36:01Speaker 6: So the defense was okay, wasn't dominant. I thought the
- 36:05Speaker 6: pass rush would be far more dominant than it was
- 36:07Speaker 6: on Sunday, and it wasn't. That that's concerning. They had
- 36:11Speaker 6: their moments. But here's maybe I'm this is just me
- 36:15Speaker 6: being nitpicking, and I talked to some other guys around
- 36:18Speaker 6: the league about this today. Why the hell do they
- 36:21Speaker 6: play so many damn players on defense. At some point,
- 36:25Speaker 6: the linebackers, the starting linebackers were sitting on the bench
- 36:30Speaker 6: for like almost a series. They weren't in the game.
- 36:35Speaker 6: Rotation on the defensive linemen.
- 36:36Speaker 5: I get it. Everybody does that? Do you? Linebackers?
- 36:41Speaker 1: Foyer Luikan played eighty two percent of the snaps in
- 36:44Speaker 1: the game.
- 36:46Speaker 5: You should be playing one hundred percent of the snaps.
- 36:49Speaker 4: Not everyone rotates the line like that, well a.
- 36:52Speaker 5: Lot of them, but they don't rotate that.
- 36:54Speaker 4: What the NFL does? I guess everyone except for TJ.
- 36:58Speaker 4: Watt and and Max Crosby plays every damns that.
- 37:02Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, go ahead, what did how many did Muma
- 37:05Speaker 6: played thirteen or so?
- 37:06Speaker 5: And I think ventreul Miller played thirteen or so?
- 37:09Speaker 1: Yeah, Ventrel Miller. But they both played thirteen snaps? Eighteen percent?
- 37:12Speaker 5: Right? Why there was not an injury? Why just to
- 37:17Speaker 5: get him in there? This is a close game. It's
- 37:20Speaker 5: not learn how to play the game time. I don't
- 37:23Speaker 5: get that. I don't understand that at all. Now, was
- 37:28Speaker 5: there an Cisco.
- 37:29Speaker 2: Got hurt but he's fine?
- 37:31Speaker 1: Moving ahead?
- 37:32Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, but did he come out of the game
- 37:34Speaker 5: for that?
- 37:35Speaker 2: Because I'm guessing yes, probably.
- 37:38Speaker 4: Well then I mean, and they they are very They're
- 37:44Speaker 4: not very deep at defensive end. So basically they rotate
- 37:47Speaker 4: Eric Armstead.
- 37:48Speaker 5: And he is a defensive event.
- 37:51Speaker 7: No I'm saying, but he they rotate. But I still
- 37:54Speaker 7: the pete.
- 37:55Speaker 4: Their best group is with him at three technique.
- 37:58Speaker 6: I'm with you, Tony, but they and they paid a
- 38:00Speaker 6: boatload of money to be the three tech ticke.
- 38:01Speaker 5: You don't even start.
- 38:03Speaker 4: I don't understand that he's your best three technique. Maybe
- 38:07Speaker 4: it's the injury. Maybe they'll let him come back. I
- 38:09Speaker 4: don't know, but when he's on the field, you're better
- 38:11Speaker 4: with him.
- 38:12Speaker 5: He played thirty I think he played thirty one plays.
- 38:14Speaker 2: If I'm not mistake, he played thirty four percent of
- 38:16Speaker 2: the snaps.
- 38:17Speaker 1: And it sounded like to me just going into the season,
- 38:19Speaker 1: we're gonna work this guy as the season goes.
- 38:22Speaker 6: Yeah, but this whole defensive en stuff, I mean, he's
- 38:24Speaker 6: gotta be the starting three technique, Like Tony said, that's
- 38:27Speaker 6: what he is.
- 38:28Speaker 5: You paid him to be the three technique.
- 38:29Speaker 4: And he's the best one you have. Correct and then
- 38:34Speaker 4: in the rookie Cole, I'm just telling you, tackles right
- 38:38Speaker 4: now are probably like, go good, Josh's on the field,
- 38:40Speaker 4: bring him in.
- 38:41Speaker 2: He played.
- 38:42Speaker 1: He played thirteen snaps in the game. Miles cole set
- 38:44Speaker 1: what seventh round pick?
- 38:46Speaker 4: I don't like.
- 38:49Speaker 5: They played. They started.
- 38:52Speaker 4: Go to Trayvon and Jose. Guys, you're not coming on
- 38:55Speaker 4: to the field. You're playing every snap. Go watch Max Crosby,
- 38:59Speaker 4: call him, ask him how he gets some shape, because
- 39:01Speaker 4: that dude plays every snap and goes hard every snap.
- 39:05Speaker 7: So don't it's it's like, that's what we're doing.
- 39:08Speaker 5: Why why did uh? Why is they start led better
- 39:11Speaker 5: over Hamilton?
- 39:14Speaker 4: Hamilton got? I thought, got. I don't know about you
- 39:16Speaker 4: people watching the tape. I thought I got pushed around
- 39:18Speaker 4: a him.
- 39:18Speaker 5: You gotta pushed around a little bit.
- 39:20Speaker 6: But and and but okay, something happened with the with
- 39:23Speaker 6: the Mason Smith clearly that he wasn't even dressed.
- 39:26Speaker 2: He wasn't Tyler Lacey wasn't up.
- 39:29Speaker 6: Don't give me that stuff about he had a bad
- 39:30Speaker 6: week and the other guys had a better week of practice.
- 39:32Speaker 1: Come on, give me a break on that second round.
- 39:35Speaker 4: I know, I know the defense coordinator loves o Tooe Maywell.
- 39:40Speaker 6: And he actually did some pretty good things in there.
- 39:42Speaker 6: And I mean, not great thing, but he did some.
- 39:44Speaker 6: There were a couple of plays. He made a couple
- 39:45Speaker 6: of plays.
- 39:46Speaker 5: They're okay, there's nobody's nobody.
- 39:48Speaker 6: That's why Armstead should be in there now, if I'm
- 39:52Speaker 6: not mistaken, though, Tony on the on the was it
- 39:54Speaker 6: fourth and one or a third? And what was that
- 39:56Speaker 6: little short yard? It's I think Armstead ended up.
- 39:59Speaker 7: On back because he tried to jump over and stop.
- 40:03Speaker 4: The the Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's just trying to make
- 40:08Speaker 4: a play.
- 40:09Speaker 5: But he should be playing.
- 40:09Speaker 4: It should be the starting really, he's really good, right.
- 40:14Speaker 6: The starting line should be Walker Heinz, Allen, Armstead and
- 40:21Speaker 6: whatever body you want to stay whoever. That's what that
- 40:25Speaker 6: starting group should be. And Abdullah started at the strong
- 40:28Speaker 6: side linebacker. He was a starter, oar. He was on
- 40:30Speaker 6: the out of the field. The first play wasn't.
- 40:32Speaker 1: List the starter. You're right, You're right.
- 40:37Speaker 5: I swear to God.
- 40:37Speaker 6: If they would have taken a practice squad player and
- 40:39Speaker 6: put a uniform on him, they would have thrown him
- 40:41Speaker 6: into the game to play some big key snaps.
- 40:44Speaker 5: In a close game. I don't get it. I don't
- 40:47Speaker 5: understand it.
- 40:47Speaker 6: I look, Tony, have you ever you remember linebackers who
- 40:51Speaker 6: are supposed to be like ray Lewis, you're out, your
- 40:53Speaker 6: backup's coming in. You're off the field now for twelve plays,
- 40:56Speaker 6: No like Pete.
- 40:59Speaker 4: And again, this is a different game. I get it.
- 41:02Speaker 4: When I played the good players, we're out there every snap.
- 41:05Speaker 4: Bruce Smith played every snap, Derek Thomas every stack, Michael
- 41:12Speaker 4: McCrary every snap, Peter Bulwer every snap like the ray
- 41:18Speaker 4: Lewis You kidding me when you know, like the great
- 41:21Speaker 4: the good players, the guys you were counting on, played
- 41:25Speaker 4: every snap. And now maybe if your defensive end, like
- 41:29Speaker 4: when Bruce got older, like when he's like really old,
- 41:32Speaker 4: he come off every four series, maybe.
- 41:36Speaker 5: Right, but he's old.
- 41:38Speaker 6: Right, Let's let's be just for the sake of the art,
- 41:41Speaker 6: because I just want to say, you know, you just
- 41:43Speaker 6: said crass me.
- 41:44Speaker 5: Let's say many snaps he played yesterday?
- 41:46Speaker 4: Ready, dude, I've done not something's changed this year the
- 41:49Speaker 4: games I've done in the past of him.
- 41:50Speaker 5: He's out there sixty five of sixty five.
- 41:54Speaker 4: Yeah, he plays every snap.
- 41:55Speaker 1: Yeah, And we got to take a break, guys, we'll
- 41:57Speaker 1: come back. We'll continue this conversation on the other side,
- 42:00Speaker 1: because this is a fascinating one on defense for the
- 42:03Speaker 1: Jaguars yesterday and a loss to the Browns coming up
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- 42:44Speaker 1: there now, right.
- 42:47Speaker 5: With the season on the line.
- 42:50Speaker 4: You think this is a huge I mean, so we've
- 42:53Speaker 4: been talking about defense, and I'm with Pete. The defense
- 42:57Speaker 4: is played well enough where you should be two and
- 42:58Speaker 4: zero playing those two any production of of your offense
- 43:01Speaker 4: at all, fumbling, Yes, they have not created one turnover
- 43:08Speaker 4: teams in the league without a takeaway by the way, yep.
- 43:11Speaker 4: But with that all said, Ryan Nielsen's group has played
- 43:16Speaker 4: good enough where they should be to and oh, they've
- 43:18Speaker 4: given up a total of thirty six points eighteen points
- 43:22Speaker 4: a game if you give them, if you put the
- 43:25Speaker 4: safety on them, it's nineteen points a game. So I'm sorry,
- 43:32Speaker 4: it's thirty yeah, thirty six three yeah. So but we're
- 43:35Speaker 4: gonna find out how good this defense is this week
- 43:39Speaker 4: because I don't think the Dolphins, and proven by the
- 43:43Speaker 4: fact that the Buffalo Bills went in there and just
- 43:45Speaker 4: completely shut them downe offensively, I'm not sure how good
- 43:48Speaker 4: they are offensively. We we thought they were really good
- 43:52Speaker 4: based on the past. We'll see the Browns are atrocious
- 43:57Speaker 4: on offense, terrible, terrible. So this is we're gonna find
- 44:02Speaker 4: out how this defense is going to face a test
- 44:05Speaker 4: this week with Josh Allen because that dude right there
- 44:09Speaker 4: after Patrick Mahomes is either the second or third player
- 44:14Speaker 4: you're taking. If the whole the whole league was up
- 44:17Speaker 4: for a draft, He's second. I was gonna say him
- 44:20Speaker 4: or Joe Burrow, but right now, right now, I take Allen. Yeah,
- 44:24Speaker 4: but I mean there's other people would take Joe Burrow.
- 44:25Speaker 5: But and they're running, and they're running the ball.
- 44:28Speaker 4: So we're gonna find out this week about the defense.
- 44:32Speaker 4: It's gonna be a big test.
- 44:34Speaker 6: But you know, you you mentioned Max Crosby. He played
- 44:38Speaker 6: every single.
- 44:38Speaker 5: Snap Sunday against against Baltimore.
- 44:41Speaker 4: He does.
- 44:42Speaker 5: Most guys don't, though I looked in the day's NFL
- 44:45Speaker 5: they do not.
- 44:47Speaker 6: You know what, you know who does? All the linebackers
- 44:50Speaker 6: that start usually play every snap, they do do that.
- 44:53Speaker 6: I looked, you know, like the Browns. Miles Garrett sat
- 44:56Speaker 6: out about twelve plays yesterday, but the linebackers played every play,
- 45:00Speaker 6: you know, and you go run on me.
- 45:01Speaker 1: Snaps Josh Allen play Josh heinz Allen, Jaguars stand by,
- 45:08Speaker 1: I got it right here, heinz Allen fifty three seventy
- 45:11Speaker 1: four of the snaps. Fifty three snaps.
- 45:15Speaker 5: Should be higher play in ninety. Yeah, you're like Traylon
- 45:21Speaker 5: Walker too.
- 45:22Speaker 4: Especially when it's going sideways. You need your best players
- 45:25Speaker 4: out there.
- 45:26Speaker 6: Well, that's why they're always used to this, this one
- 45:29Speaker 6: always because a lot of teams have rotated.
- 45:30Speaker 5: It used to drive me crazy.
- 45:32Speaker 6: Okay, well it's your you just scored, you went ahead,
- 45:36Speaker 6: you're up by four, and you kick off and you
- 45:40Speaker 6: pin them down there they're at the twenty something yard line,
- 45:43Speaker 6: and it's time to rotate the second defense in there.
- 45:45Speaker 6: When you got a chance to put a hammer on them, right,
- 45:48Speaker 6: you know, the second defensive line, you put a chance
- 45:50Speaker 6: to have a get a sack, turn the ball over,
- 45:53Speaker 6: or get a sack. Fourth of the punt, you go up,
- 45:55Speaker 6: go score, you go up eleven. But no, what do
- 45:58Speaker 6: they do. They rotate the second line and they get
- 46:01Speaker 6: like six seven, eight plays down the field.
- 46:02Speaker 5: Next thing you know, you're at midfield.
- 46:04Speaker 6: Forty yard line and you're scrambling trying to stop them
- 46:07Speaker 6: from getting any points.
- 46:09Speaker 5: I never understood that if.
- 46:11Speaker 6: The offense had been on the field for a little while,
- 46:13Speaker 6: particularly there's a lot of dead time between a score
- 46:17Speaker 6: a kickoff, go out there and play.
- 46:19Speaker 4: I don't.
- 46:19Speaker 5: I just don't understand.
- 46:21Speaker 6: You don't just rest guys for the sake of resting them.
- 46:26Speaker 4: Now, I get, like, if it's a long drive and
- 46:28Speaker 4: you want to get a player too off, yeah I
- 46:32Speaker 4: get that.
- 46:33Speaker 6: But you go back, you get a player too off,
- 46:34Speaker 6: and you come back, go to the sideline, come back
- 46:36Speaker 6: in at.
- 46:36Speaker 4: The end of In my opinion, and I'm listen, all
- 46:41Speaker 4: these coaches are way better at this than me to
- 46:44Speaker 4: do this for a living. So are they Well, maybe
- 46:46Speaker 4: I'm just an idiot, Pete, but I would say at
- 46:50Speaker 4: the start of every defensive series, my number one unit's
- 46:54Speaker 4: gonna be out there because you just sat on the bench.
- 46:57Speaker 5: And wait, unless the guys things.
- 47:01Speaker 4: Like woll the ones out there, I'm not gonna like
- 47:04Speaker 4: And guess what if you want more playing time, be
- 47:06Speaker 4: better than the guy in front of you.
- 47:08Speaker 1: Second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour after this on Jaguars Radio.
- 47:28Speaker 5: M m hmmm.
- 47:34Speaker 4: I think it's everything.
- 47:36Speaker 9: The fact that they are you know, and we've had listen, Jean,
- 47:39Speaker 9: we've had many guys in here today already, and and
- 47:42Speaker 9: you know they've come up and talked to the coaches
- 47:44Speaker 9: and want them to sit down and go through the tape,
- 47:46Speaker 9: and and uh, they're on they're on board. I mean,
- 47:49Speaker 9: it's it's they understand. I mean, they understand they have
- 47:51Speaker 9: to play better, we have to coach better.
- 47:53Speaker 4: It's a it's a group effort.
- 47:54Speaker 9: It's it's no particular one person or one position, group
- 47:58Speaker 9: or one side of the ball. I think I think
- 48:00Speaker 9: there's enough obviously enough mistakes to fix enough things we.
- 48:04Speaker 4: Can get better at.
- 48:06Speaker 9: But the fact that the players are united and locked
- 48:09Speaker 9: in and focused that way as a good TIGN.
- 48:13Speaker 1: Head coach Doug Peterson earlier today and welcome back. It's
- 48:16Speaker 1: our two of Jaguars Happy Hour and this Hour presented
- 48:20Speaker 1: by mister Chubby's Wings before the game, after the game,
- 48:23Speaker 1: and during the game. JP Shadwick, Tony Bissellie Priskill were
- 48:26Speaker 1: on ten ten XLAM, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube.
- 48:30Speaker 1: The Browns over the Jaguars in Week two, eighteen thirteen.
- 48:33Speaker 1: The Browns dominated the first half, the Jags unable to
- 48:37Speaker 1: rally late in a sloppy game. The Jags offense had
- 48:41Speaker 1: some not so good moments, but still had the ball
- 48:44Speaker 1: in their hands in the final drives somehow with a
- 48:46Speaker 1: throwing the end zone in the final play of the
- 48:48Speaker 1: game that fell shorter than complete. Browns won the game
- 48:51Speaker 1: with one hundred penalty yards. They were two of fourteen
- 48:54Speaker 1: on third down, but perfect three of three on fourth.
- 48:57Speaker 1: They played with two backup tackles, a quarterback with off
- 49:00Speaker 1: the field issues again, and defensive players on the shelf.
- 49:03Speaker 1: Questions growing about how this offense gets out of neutral
- 49:06Speaker 1: and finds a way forward. The defense had moments good
- 49:09Speaker 1: and bad now it's on the Monday Night Football. This week,
- 49:13Speaker 1: they oz and two Jaguars visit Orchard Park in the
- 49:15Speaker 1: two and oh Buffalo Bills. The Jags have won the
- 49:17Speaker 1: last two had to head meetings against the Bills in
- 49:19Speaker 1: twenty one and twenty three. That's about covering it today.
- 49:24Speaker 1: There's a lot more to cover in this next hour ahead.
- 49:26Speaker 1: Fanatics fan questions. We'll keep it real and we'll go
- 49:29Speaker 1: around the NFL. Yeah, offense, defense, even special teams had
- 49:35Speaker 1: an issue yesterday with a missfield goal off the upright,
- 49:38Speaker 1: So everybody's guilty.
- 49:39Speaker 6: Pete.
- 49:40Speaker 5: Yes, it wasn't a good showing. I mean it's bad.
- 49:43Speaker 6: But and you know, it's interesting that Tony said that
- 49:47Speaker 6: there was no juice because when you watched it, you
- 49:50Speaker 6: watch the game, it didn't feel like there was any jews.
- 49:54Speaker 5: Was the crowd into it?
- 49:57Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I mean I think they're trying. I mean,
- 50:00Speaker 4: you gotta was.
- 50:02Speaker 5: It raining, like right, it was raining?
- 50:03Speaker 4: I know it rained at some point, it was I
- 50:06Speaker 4: don't think it was raining at the beginning of the game.
- 50:08Speaker 4: It kind of came and went through the game. It
- 50:11Speaker 4: was light and then at the end it started coming
- 50:13Speaker 4: down heavy. Hey, JP, real quick question. Yes, I couldn't tell.
- 50:18Speaker 4: On the All twenty two, how close was Breton Strange
- 50:22Speaker 4: in catching that ball? Did you get his hands on it?
- 50:26Speaker 4: Actually I couldn't tell.
- 50:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't at the end zone you're talking about.
- 50:29Speaker 2: Yeah, he was there. There was there.
- 50:32Speaker 5: It was kind of like it was kind of off
- 50:34Speaker 5: off target.
- 50:35Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't talk it.
- 50:38Speaker 2: It went to the ground direct.
- 50:39Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 50:39Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 50:40Speaker 6: He went to throw that ball and he kind of
- 50:42Speaker 6: had a little bit of pressure, so he had to
- 50:44Speaker 6: reload it and most everybody was in the middle of
- 50:46Speaker 6: the field and it ended up sailing to the left.
- 50:48Speaker 5: A little bit.
- 50:48Speaker 2: But imagine that.
- 50:49Speaker 1: I mean, of all things that happened in that game,
- 50:52Speaker 1: and somehow the Browns nearly gave it right back to him.
- 50:55Speaker 1: I mean, they threw the ball in third down for
- 50:57Speaker 1: some reason. The Browns, I don't know, what are you doing?
- 51:00Speaker 1: I mean, you know.
- 51:03Speaker 6: The other thing was my favorite player of the day
- 51:06Speaker 6: was when Gabe Davis took a catch away from Brian
- 51:09Speaker 6: Domas when they were both standing there on that last.
- 51:11Speaker 1: Dr Thomas that's right, Yeah, Brian Thomas.
- 51:14Speaker 6: Took it from Yeah, who's not supposed to look like
- 51:17Speaker 6: he wasn't supposed to be there.
- 51:19Speaker 7: He kind of wasn't supposed to be there.
- 51:20Speaker 4: I know that.
- 51:21Speaker 6: But they you're right, they they were bad. But that's
- 51:25Speaker 6: not that's that's that's a pretty good defense. That's not
- 51:29Speaker 6: a good offense at all.
- 51:31Speaker 4: No, it's a good defense. So I mean it's not
- 51:34Speaker 4: gonna be pretty.
- 51:37Speaker 6: Yeah, they match up well in the secondary. They're good
- 51:40Speaker 6: in coverage. They have linebackers who can run. You know,
- 51:44Speaker 6: they got pass rushers who can get after the quarterback.
- 51:47Speaker 4: It's a cowboy and the Cowboys scored thirty three on
- 51:49Speaker 4: them at home.
- 51:50Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's pretty amazing when you think about it.
- 51:54Speaker 5: It's just it's it's JP and and again.
- 51:59Speaker 6: I knit when I look at these at the tape,
- 52:01Speaker 6: and because certain thing it bothers me sometimes the way
- 52:05Speaker 6: they play football, Like do we really do you need
- 52:08Speaker 6: to pull the Duvernet reverse out every game?
- 52:11Speaker 5: We're gonna pull that out every game? Didn't the same
- 52:13Speaker 5: play that ran last week? Is it not?
- 52:15Speaker 6: And then then they tried to run that he didn't
- 52:18Speaker 6: set or he did set and then moved again.
- 52:20Speaker 4: Is that what it was?
- 52:21Speaker 5: I couldn't quite tell.
- 52:22Speaker 4: From the he never got set from the beginning.
- 52:24Speaker 6: Yeah, it didn't And so that's an illegal motion. The
- 52:28Speaker 6: gates a touchdown. Travis Etn fell in the back of
- 52:32Speaker 6: the end zone, that's a touchdown. It's just all these
- 52:34Speaker 6: little things that prevents them from scoring touchdowns. But I
- 52:39Speaker 6: don't there's certain things I you know, that bother me,
- 52:41Speaker 6: and and asking your wide receivers to block an all
- 52:46Speaker 6: pro defensive end and pass protection is never something I
- 52:49Speaker 6: really want to see.
- 52:53Speaker 5: Gave Davis had Miles Garrett in pass protection and they
- 52:58Speaker 5: asked those.
- 52:59Speaker 6: They ask a lot of these wide receivers and blocking
- 53:01Speaker 6: to Tony, you got.
- 53:02Speaker 4: Admit for what everyone does.
- 53:04Speaker 6: Yeah, but that maybe more so than that. This the
- 53:06Speaker 6: way they run their offense.
- 53:07Speaker 1: When did when did they have When did they put
- 53:09Speaker 1: him on Miles?
- 53:10Speaker 4: When was it was a play action pass?
- 53:12Speaker 5: He was chipping one ended up ended up with him.
- 53:18Speaker 4: And they don't ask.
- 53:19Speaker 11: Their receivers do any more than anyone else does every
- 53:21Speaker 11: receiver since I've been playing, you have to dig out
- 53:23Speaker 11: the run support defender, that safety comes down, you have
- 53:28Speaker 11: to dig him out.
- 53:30Speaker 5: They they I don't know.
- 53:32Speaker 6: I just sometime you know, the cracks and the tosses
- 53:34Speaker 6: and all that.
- 53:35Speaker 4: I don't because they but because Pete I don't think
- 53:38Speaker 4: they're I mean, it's part, it's a staple, part of
- 53:40Speaker 4: their game plans that stay part of a lot of
- 53:41Speaker 4: people's game plan in today's NFL.
- 53:43Speaker 5: I get it, I get it.
- 53:44Speaker 6: Let me ask you this though, Are weich just a
- 53:47Speaker 6: concern about Kirk?
- 53:49Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 53:49Speaker 2: What's going on with that?
- 53:51Speaker 1: What's cool?
- 53:52Speaker 4: He is absent?
- 53:54Speaker 5: And I dropped two in the first game that would
- 53:58Speaker 5: have been good.
- 53:59Speaker 1: He was just he was he two or three three
- 54:02Speaker 1: target targets, one catch for minus one yard.
- 54:05Speaker 6: Yeah, that that there's there. Well, they didn't have a
- 54:09Speaker 6: lot of pass plays in the first half. They had
- 54:11Speaker 6: eleven of them, and everything else after that was the
- 54:15Speaker 6: Well when they ran the two receiver routes, he wasn't
- 54:17Speaker 6: on the field. No, And here's another observation. They looked
- 54:23Speaker 6: like they were running in mud. Gabe Davis, who looked
- 54:27Speaker 6: fast at other times in his career, suddenly doesn't look fast.
- 54:34Speaker 7: Looks fast.
- 54:35Speaker 5: No, he looks fast.
- 54:36Speaker 6: But Tony, when you were watching the tape yesterday, did
- 54:39Speaker 6: you look at Gabe Davis and go, boy, he looks
- 54:41Speaker 6: like a blown up tight end almost. He didn't look fast.
- 54:44Speaker 6: He looks sluggish. They didn't look fast at all.
- 54:47Speaker 4: I guess Pete. My problem with that is I didn't
- 54:50Speaker 4: watch enough of him in Buffalo where I could say
- 54:54Speaker 4: I noticed the difference, if that makes sense.
- 54:56Speaker 6: You know, you know i'd watched it, but even a
- 54:58Speaker 6: week ago, even a week ago, he looked even faster.
- 55:01Speaker 5: He just didn't something something yesterday didn't.
- 55:04Speaker 6: And then that when he's coming around the he gets
- 55:08Speaker 6: knocked off his round on the end line over there
- 55:10Speaker 6: when Trevor threw it. Remember I'm talking about was he
- 55:14Speaker 6: he wasn't even looking. It just wasn't a good game
- 55:18Speaker 6: for Gabe Davis.
- 55:19Speaker 5: And my And he looks, he looks sluggish, and.
- 55:21Speaker 4: I don't know he offensively.
- 55:23Speaker 6: Yeah, and now he's got a revenge game this week.
- 55:26Speaker 6: You know how people love revenge games. It makes you
- 55:30Speaker 6: play harder, Tony, did you ever know that? What'd I
- 55:34Speaker 6: say about the games you played before that?
- 55:36Speaker 4: He told me, you know, in the first second, the
- 55:38Speaker 4: first hour, he told us that was the coach's fault
- 55:40Speaker 4: and for not motivating the players, like.
- 55:45Speaker 5: The sideline and sit.
- 55:48Speaker 4: The player.
- 55:49Speaker 5: If you're if you're sitting in a film.
- 55:50Speaker 6: Room and you're watching a wide receiver maybe not running
- 55:52Speaker 6: his round as hard as he should.
- 55:54Speaker 5: We pointed out to him, if you're the coach.
- 55:56Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't know that, do well? They might be Bete,
- 55:59Speaker 4: you don't know they're not.
- 56:00Speaker 5: Okay, that's what I'm talking about.
- 56:02Speaker 4: Okay, but how do you know whether they are or not?
- 56:05Speaker 4: Like I like what Doug said the last coming back.
- 56:08Speaker 4: I mean, I think it is a good sign. Guys
- 56:10Speaker 4: are coming in. This is a day off, they're trying
- 56:13Speaker 4: to get filmed. They know it's not good enough. We've
- 56:15Speaker 4: heard the comments of Trevor Lawrence. I don't think any
- 56:17Speaker 4: the positive trying to find a positive of being owned
- 56:21Speaker 4: to going to Buffalo on Monday night is I do
- 56:25Speaker 4: think you got a bunch of guys who do care
- 56:28Speaker 4: and aren't happy with the performance. Like I don't think
- 56:32Speaker 4: this is a situation We've all seen it around the
- 56:34Speaker 4: league through our time, where you have a team that
- 56:39Speaker 4: is indifferent, you have a bunch of bad guys, you
- 56:42Speaker 4: have a bunch of guys who aren't putting the work in.
- 56:45Speaker 4: I don't think that is not this group. This is
- 56:48Speaker 4: a group that cares. They're not playing very well offensively,
- 56:52Speaker 4: but they care, And I thought that was a good sign.
- 56:55Speaker 7: With Doug said.
- 56:57Speaker 4: That's not all of us guys are coming in and
- 57:00Speaker 4: trying to figure it out.
- 57:02Speaker 6: And desperation, as you know in this league, makes teams
- 57:06Speaker 6: play better and more focused at times. And I think
- 57:08Speaker 6: we saw that yesterday with the Bengals. The Bengals with
- 57:11Speaker 6: the Kansas City and played a great game, probably should
- 57:14Speaker 6: have won the game because they were desperate, didn't want to.
- 57:16Speaker 5: Fall to oh and two.
- 57:17Speaker 6: And well, now you got the Jaguars in the same
- 57:19Speaker 6: type of situation, desperate against a good team on the road.
- 57:23Speaker 6: Don't want to go to ohen three. You better show up.
- 57:26Speaker 6: You better at least show up in the game, right.
- 57:31Speaker 4: You know this when people, when teams are desperate, it
- 57:33Speaker 4: goes one or two ways. It's either heightened focus in
- 57:36Speaker 4: guys grind and they get going, or guys think they
- 57:42Speaker 4: are in the first sign of any adversity, they throw
- 57:45Speaker 4: their hands up and go here we go again. And
- 57:47Speaker 4: you can't become a here we go again team because.
- 57:51Speaker 5: You'll know that right away too.
- 57:52Speaker 4: It's over. The season's over.
- 57:54Speaker 7: If you become a here we go again.
- 57:55Speaker 6: You'll know that midway through that game. Midway through that game,
- 57:59Speaker 6: maybe give the first half. Midway through that game. If
- 58:02Speaker 6: it's ugly and getting out of hand. Then they've thrown
- 58:06Speaker 6: up the hands and that thing is done. Tony's right,
- 58:09Speaker 6: it's done.
- 58:10Speaker 5: If they're fighting and battling and they.
- 58:12Speaker 6: Lose a close one in the fourth quarter, and as
- 58:16Speaker 6: a good football team on the road Monday night, tough
- 58:18Speaker 6: place to play, then you say, Okay, they're still scrapping
- 58:21Speaker 6: and fighting. But if they fold up the tent and
- 58:24Speaker 6: it starts getting away from them, that's a bad sign
- 58:27Speaker 6: for the entire rest of the season.
- 58:29Speaker 1: I've got a question about the response in the locker
- 58:31Speaker 1: room to the comments of Trevor Lawrence. We heard them
- 58:34Speaker 1: just through the media podium, prism right. I'm sure they
- 58:37Speaker 1: might have been different on the sideline and maybe in
- 58:39Speaker 1: the locker room amongst the players, But as a teammate
- 58:43Speaker 1: of Trevor's when he's finally calling it out or for
- 58:45Speaker 1: the first time we've heard calling things out publicly like that,
- 58:49Speaker 1: how this team responds to the quarterback is a huge
- 58:51Speaker 1: piece of that.
- 58:52Speaker 2: Right.
- 58:54Speaker 4: Well, I mean, this is about leadership, and that's a
- 58:56Speaker 4: leadership position. By just the name quarterback, I mean, in
- 59:00Speaker 4: this league, if you're the quarterback, you gotta lead and
- 59:02Speaker 4: your words carry weight. And I think it's important for
- 59:06Speaker 4: that guy to in his way. Everyone does it different,
- 59:10Speaker 4: but to let it be known what's acceptable it's not.
- 59:13Speaker 4: But if you're gonna be that guy, which I think
- 59:15Speaker 4: Trevor should be, and he should be vocal, he should share.
- 59:19Speaker 4: It starts with you. You got to get your stuff
- 59:23Speaker 4: in order. You got to get You gotta be tech.
- 59:26Speaker 4: Not that you have to be perfect, but you have
- 59:28Speaker 4: to do the work. You have to set the tempo,
- 59:31Speaker 4: you have to set the example. You have to set
- 59:33Speaker 4: the standard of what's acceptable what's not for you first,
- 59:37Speaker 4: and then you can do it to everybody else.
- 59:40Speaker 6: I want to throw this out there. What's the best
- 59:43Speaker 6: he's ever looked?
- 59:46Speaker 5: When?
- 59:46Speaker 4: When's the best price? I mean second half of twenty two.
- 59:51Speaker 4: I thought I thought he started well at the beginning
- 59:53Speaker 4: of last year.
- 59:54Speaker 6: But one game that stands out to you one moments,
- 59:57Speaker 6: moments like a half.
- 59:59Speaker 4: The second half thea.
- 1:00:03Speaker 5: It was unreal?
- 1:00:04Speaker 4: Right?
- 1:00:05Speaker 5: Was he not great in that game? And what were they?
- 1:00:09Speaker 5: What was this? Out of necessity? What did they have
- 1:00:12Speaker 5: to do?
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: Throw it down the field quaite fast?
- 1:00:17Speaker 12: Okay, okay, you want me to game plan for this week?
- 1:00:22Speaker 12: I mean that's what they at least try it at
- 1:00:27Speaker 12: least try it.
- 1:00:28Speaker 4: Okay, they did backed up, They tried to take a
- 1:00:31Speaker 4: shot to Brian Thomas Jet.
- 1:00:33Speaker 5: But you're backed up in your own en. It's late
- 1:00:35Speaker 5: in the game.
- 1:00:35Speaker 6: Come on, Tony, I'm talking about Go go go, start
- 1:00:38Speaker 6: to go, Go dictate tempo.
- 1:00:40Speaker 5: Don't get tempo.
- 1:00:41Speaker 6: This offense feels like it's always an offense that's getting
- 1:00:44Speaker 6: tempo dictated to it instead of dictating temple in tempo,
- 1:00:49Speaker 6: in fairness to the offense, in fairness to the quarterback,
- 1:00:52Speaker 6: in fairness to everybody on that side of the ball.
- 1:00:55Speaker 6: Offenses around the NFL right now, Quarterback play around the
- 1:00:58Speaker 6: NFL right now, neither is very good. You got guys
- 1:01:03Speaker 6: that are star quarterbacks who aren't playing like stars.
- 1:01:07Speaker 5: They're playing like pretty good quarterbacks.
- 1:01:09Speaker 6: You've got guys who are good quarterbacks who are playing
- 1:01:11Speaker 6: like average quarterbacks. You got average quarterbacks who are playing
- 1:01:14Speaker 6: like bad quarterbacks. And it all goes back to what
- 1:01:16Speaker 6: you said, Tony. You are one spot on the offensive line.
- 1:01:21Speaker 6: Play in this league is so bad, and the defenders
- 1:01:24Speaker 6: have gotten so fast and athletic, and teams are playing
- 1:01:28Speaker 6: off coverage that you're trying to decide where you're going.
- 1:01:31Speaker 6: It's makes you think in the minute you think for
- 1:01:34Speaker 6: a second, boom, you're getting hit in the mouth.
- 1:01:37Speaker 5: The game.
- 1:01:38Speaker 6: Offensive line play is awful because they don't hit right now,
- 1:01:41Speaker 6: and a team that fixes it is going to be
- 1:01:44Speaker 6: the team that makes the real push the rest of
- 1:01:46Speaker 6: the way. Those are the teams, whether it's one, two, three,
- 1:01:50Speaker 6: four teams, whoever solves their offensive line problem, they're gonna
- 1:01:54Speaker 6: be the team that gets deep into the postseason.
- 1:01:56Speaker 4: Well, p do you mean you have to practice stuff?
- 1:02:00Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 1:02:01Speaker 4: Hit, You actually have to go like simulate what you're
- 1:02:04Speaker 4: gonna do in the game with five guys. Yes, yes,
- 1:02:08Speaker 4: that's a novel concept. But the problem is this league
- 1:02:12Speaker 4: is set up to not allow teams to do that.
- 1:02:16Speaker 4: And I've been singing this, Pete and you know this.
- 1:02:19Speaker 4: We've talked about it, We've talked about on the show,
- 1:02:21Speaker 4: you and I have talked about personally, and everyone says, oh,
- 1:02:24Speaker 4: it's so it's harder to play offensive line because the
- 1:02:27Speaker 4: defenders are so good. Okay, sorry, really they weren't any
- 1:02:33Speaker 4: good for the in the history of this league. Was
- 1:02:35Speaker 4: it easier when we have seven step drops trying to
- 1:02:38Speaker 4: block you know, the greats?
- 1:02:41Speaker 5: They do some more looks at you up front though.
- 1:02:44Speaker 4: Okay, great, but guess what playing tackle in this league,
- 1:02:46Speaker 4: you're blocking the end ninety percent of the time. There
- 1:02:50Speaker 4: was no secret for either tackle. When Miles Garrett's lined
- 1:02:54Speaker 4: up out there, who do you have, right? Guess what? Yes,
- 1:02:59Speaker 4: defenders are maybe bigger, stronger, faster. Guess who else is
- 1:03:02Speaker 4: supposed to be bigger, stronger, faster the offensive line. I've
- 1:03:06Speaker 4: said this from the beginning of time. As an offensive lineman,
- 1:03:09Speaker 4: you are asked to do one of the most difficult
- 1:03:12Speaker 4: things in sports, in the game of football. To leave
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: with that, you are asked to block individuals who are
- 1:03:20Speaker 4: better athletes than you, who can completely be reactionary, who
- 1:03:25Speaker 4: are coming forward as you're going backwards, and you are
- 1:03:29Speaker 4: asked to stop them, and you're asked to block them.
- 1:03:33Speaker 4: That takes a combination of physical strength, physical uhys, physical
- 1:03:39Speaker 4: athletic ability, and mental acuity. Outthink, think about understand angles,
- 1:03:46Speaker 4: Understand scheme, Understand what you're trying to do, under Understand
- 1:03:49Speaker 4: where you want to take that guy, Understand the angles
- 1:03:51Speaker 4: where your quarterback is. And then to do that really
- 1:03:55Speaker 4: well as an individual, you have to rep it above
- 1:04:01Speaker 4: a bunch over and over and over and over. Again
- 1:04:05Speaker 4: until where it's second nature. And then to do that
- 1:04:08Speaker 4: as well as five guys together, you have to rep
- 1:04:13Speaker 4: it over and over again. You have to practice it.
- 1:04:16Speaker 4: You have to be in situations where you have to
- 1:04:19Speaker 4: stay low, where you have to get your body into
- 1:04:22Speaker 4: a position that is unnatural and make it feel natural,
- 1:04:25Speaker 4: play after play after play. That's the only way you
- 1:04:29Speaker 4: can play offensive line. And guess what, in this league today,
- 1:04:32Speaker 4: the way we have set it up, we do not
- 1:04:35Speaker 4: allow that to happen.
- 1:04:37Speaker 6: And you know what, Tony, You know, I work with
- 1:04:40Speaker 6: Kyle long now and Kyle played in the league for
- 1:04:42Speaker 6: a long time, and we were talking about you and
- 1:04:43Speaker 6: we talking about offensive line play and one of the
- 1:04:45Speaker 6: things he said, he says, they try and simulate it
- 1:04:48Speaker 6: with the blocking dummies when the offensive lineman or if
- 1:04:51Speaker 6: we can't do that, the blocking dummies don't move, they
- 1:04:54Speaker 6: don't move like the second level blocking dummies.
- 1:04:57Speaker 7: Again, maybe I just well, I'm confused.
- 1:05:00Speaker 4: Yes, this training camp again, we had the Tampa Bay
- 1:05:03Speaker 4: Buccaneers here. We had one day where we went out
- 1:05:07Speaker 4: in pads and had physical good practice. The second day
- 1:05:12Speaker 4: we went out with just helmets on and spiders and
- 1:05:17Speaker 4: it was a glorified jog through.
- 1:05:19Speaker 8: Let me tell you what. No one got better up front,
- 1:05:26Speaker 8: No one got better. Great, you can point out your assignment.
- 1:05:29Speaker 8: I can do that with chairs. No one got better.
- 1:05:35Speaker 5: You can't get the speed of the game, Kirk.
- 1:05:38Speaker 11: You can fool yourself like you create bad Let me
- 1:05:41Speaker 11: tell you.
- 1:05:42Speaker 4: What I used to say it all the time. I
- 1:05:43Speaker 4: thought I didn't like OTA's we were going full speed,
- 1:05:47Speaker 4: But I thought a lot of times it can form
- 1:05:49Speaker 4: bad habits because how the game's played, you played with.
- 1:05:57Speaker 5: You were saying earlier about Cam Robinson going to get
- 1:05:59Speaker 5: the line, you can't get the idea.
- 1:06:02Speaker 6: Even if the guy's faster than the normal guy that
- 1:06:04Speaker 6: you're practicing against, at least you have.
- 1:06:06Speaker 5: An idea where he's gonna be.
- 1:06:08Speaker 6: When you don't hit, you don't do it in live reps,
- 1:06:10Speaker 6: you have no idea.
- 1:06:12Speaker 4: You can't you can't play offensive line without repetition, and
- 1:06:16Speaker 4: you can't do you have to rep it together correct
- 1:06:20Speaker 4: And so this is a league wide issue. This is
- 1:06:23Speaker 4: not just.
- 1:06:24Speaker 5: Look at the quarterback numbers, Tony. Look at the quarterback numbers.
- 1:06:27Speaker 5: They're incredible, and they're taking shots after shots after shots,
- 1:06:31Speaker 5: all of them across the league. They're getting blasted.
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: All right, guys, we gotta come back. If we haven't already.
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: We will keep it real when we come back. This
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: has all been fake up to this point. Just wait
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: until we come back. It's time to take it back
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- 1:07:15Speaker 4: I don't let it affect me.
- 1:07:17Speaker 9: I just know it's a it's a it's a business
- 1:07:19Speaker 9: that it's a one week you know, it's a week
- 1:07:22Speaker 9: to week business.
- 1:07:23Speaker 4: We've talked about this.
- 1:07:23Speaker 9: A lot, and and you know I I I gotta
- 1:07:26Speaker 9: find thing for me too, is yes, we got to
- 1:07:28Speaker 9: correct the negative and the and the things that are
- 1:07:31Speaker 9: going wrong, but I also got to look at the
- 1:07:33Speaker 9: positive and what's what's.
- 1:07:34Speaker 4: Being put out there.
- 1:07:35Speaker 9: And you know, I think I think it's a different
- 1:07:39Speaker 9: ballgame in Miami, as you guys know, if we don't
- 1:07:41Speaker 9: if we don't fumble, you know, on the on the
- 1:07:43Speaker 9: two yard line. I think this week, if we get
- 1:07:46Speaker 9: a chance to score uh and not kick that field
- 1:07:48Speaker 9: goal there, uh, you know, we take the lead and
- 1:07:51Speaker 9: potentially when when yesterday's game, despite you know, the mistake.
- 1:07:55Speaker 9: So it's it's a little bit of a fine line.
- 1:07:58Speaker 4: I understand that.
- 1:07:59Speaker 9: But we are you know, we are where we are
- 1:08:02Speaker 9: right now as you mentioned one in seven and and
- 1:08:05Speaker 9: uh it's something that you know, we just got to
- 1:08:07Speaker 9: focus on, uh, focus on Buffalo this week, head.
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- 1:08:43Speaker 1: pick with both of you guys. Pete Tony. Last week
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: we got a double lock out of you guys. What
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: in the world was that?
- 1:08:55Speaker 4: Youn refer back to what Doug you said, because I
- 1:08:58Speaker 4: actually agreed there these sets. If if TRAVISDTN doesn't fumble,
- 1:09:02Speaker 4: I think they win against the Dolphins for sure. I
- 1:09:05Speaker 4: actually think if they end up going and scoring instead
- 1:09:08Speaker 4: of kicking the field goal, I think they probably win.
- 1:09:10Speaker 4: I also can play that game if the Dolphins try,
- 1:09:14Speaker 4: if they don't miss Tyreek Hill wide open early in
- 1:09:17Speaker 4: that game, it could have been different. If Amari Cooper
- 1:09:20Speaker 4: doesn't drop a pass that go down and probably score
- 1:09:24Speaker 4: a touchdown, the game can be different. So like that's
- 1:09:26Speaker 4: like a thing you can always do. And Doug's right.
- 1:09:30Speaker 4: But here's the bigger point I want to make. I'm
- 1:09:32Speaker 4: not sure how good the Dolphins and the Browns are
- 1:09:36Speaker 4: as football teams.
- 1:09:39Speaker 5: No, we saw.
- 1:09:42Speaker 4: The two weeks the Browns got blown out by the Cowboys.
- 1:09:48Speaker 4: It wasn't even it wasn't even as at home, It
- 1:09:51Speaker 4: wasn't even as close as the score said it was.
- 1:09:53Speaker 7: It was never even a game.
- 1:09:55Speaker 4: And the Dolphins got by the Bills on a Thursday
- 1:09:59Speaker 4: night at home, which has a huge favor to the
- 1:10:03Speaker 4: home team on Thursday.
- 1:10:04Speaker 6: Nights and then and then the Cowboys subsequently got blown
- 1:10:07Speaker 6: out by the Saints at home.
- 1:10:10Speaker 4: So like, I guess my point is is like I
- 1:10:13Speaker 4: don't know how good anyone is.
- 1:10:14Speaker 5: First of all after two weeks. You always say that though.
- 1:10:17Speaker 4: That's why that's my point, Pete. So I agree with
- 1:10:20Speaker 4: Doug that things could be very much different if they
- 1:10:23Speaker 4: made a couple of plays. But I promise you the
- 1:10:27Speaker 4: other side is saying the same thing, and that's what
- 1:10:28Speaker 4: you like, that's not you can go back because the
- 1:10:32Speaker 4: answer to that question, and Doug knows this is well,
- 1:10:35Speaker 4: then go make the plays because that's who wins.
- 1:10:39Speaker 5: And you make a good point because you can go
- 1:10:40Speaker 5: around the league.
- 1:10:42Speaker 6: There's there's a bunch of h and two teams that
- 1:10:44Speaker 6: can sit there and say, okay, I'll go to the Titans.
- 1:10:47Speaker 6: The Titans could be two and oh if Will Levis
- 1:10:49Speaker 6: doesn't make two stupid plays, who else. There's a couple
- 1:10:53Speaker 6: of other own two teams that have lost close games.
- 1:10:55Speaker 6: You can go around the league and do that. So
- 1:10:57Speaker 6: you got to finish. Every game comes down to a
- 1:10:59Speaker 6: couple of plays. If you make them, you win. If
- 1:11:01Speaker 6: you don't. You don't, And that's basically what happened the Bengals.
- 1:11:04Speaker 6: There's another one. They're rowing two. They got a pass
- 1:11:07Speaker 6: interference penalty on fourth and sixteen to lose that game
- 1:11:10Speaker 6: on Sunday.
- 1:11:11Speaker 4: So if Joe Burrow doesn't fumble right Terry for a touchdown,
- 1:11:16Speaker 4: they probably win the game.
- 1:11:17Speaker 5: So there's a variety of things going on.
- 1:11:20Speaker 6: The fact is you're owing two, and you're staring owing
- 1:11:23Speaker 6: three in the face, and you're probably staring on four
- 1:11:25Speaker 6: in the flate base if you don't turn this thing around.
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: And that's where we're keeping it real.
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: Is the schedule ahead, Yes, two losses in the AFC
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: already for the Jaguars. The next three are AFC games,
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: two of those in the division, two of them on
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: the road, and then it's on to London after that
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: against the Bears and the Patriots. So the road ahead
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: is not easy.
- 1:11:48Speaker 4: No, it's not easy. The good news is the Colts
- 1:11:51Speaker 4: never can't win in Jacksonville. So that's like we should
- 1:11:54Speaker 4: just mark that as a win.
- 1:11:55Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: You don't lock it now, right, lock it right now, Tony.
- 1:11:57Speaker 4: I'm not locking anything until I see more.
- 1:12:00Speaker 5: Are not very good either though.
- 1:12:01Speaker 4: And then and I thought they'd be better than they
- 1:12:03Speaker 4: were than they are. And then if you look at
- 1:12:06Speaker 4: the two teams in London.
- 1:12:08Speaker 5: They're better than you thought they were.
- 1:12:10Speaker 7: The Bears aren't.
- 1:12:11Speaker 5: They're worse than They're good on defense.
- 1:12:12Speaker 4: They're good on defense, but offensively they can't block in
- 1:12:15Speaker 4: Caleb Williams is like under attack.
- 1:12:18Speaker 5: Yeah, the center is terrible. We've seen that movie before.
- 1:12:23Speaker 7: And but the Patriots are better than I thought they
- 1:12:24Speaker 7: were going to be.
- 1:12:25Speaker 6: Right, So that's not as easy as the game as
- 1:12:27Speaker 6: you thought it would be. And the Bears are probably
- 1:12:29Speaker 6: a little bit worse than you thought they would be. Yeah, Look,
- 1:12:32Speaker 6: the schedule is not easy. The next two games are brutal.
- 1:12:37Speaker 6: Those are two of the better teams in the in
- 1:12:39Speaker 6: the conference. And the one thing that stood out about
- 1:12:44Speaker 6: the Texans on Sunday night against the Bears.
- 1:12:46Speaker 5: Their offense wasn't very good, but their defense looked pretty good.
- 1:12:51Speaker 6: Yes, their pass rush looked really good and not just
- 1:12:54Speaker 6: the edge guys, they were getting interior pressure too.
- 1:12:58Speaker 5: And they're faster in the back end.
- 1:13:00Speaker 6: The two corners are you know, the rookies good player
- 1:13:02Speaker 6: last year, have made a couple of plays and and
- 1:13:04Speaker 6: and Stingley made plays.
- 1:13:05Speaker 5: They're better. They're a better team than they've been.
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: They had seven sacks and eleven quarterback hits on Caleb Williams.
- 1:13:11Speaker 5: They brutalized him.
- 1:13:14Speaker 6: But the flip side was is their offensive line got
- 1:13:17Speaker 6: beat up pretty good too, because c. J. Stroud was
- 1:13:19Speaker 6: running around a little bit more than he normally does too.
- 1:13:21Speaker 2: The boy he was making plays in the run.
- 1:13:27Speaker 5: But again, I don't worry guys, how.
- 1:13:29Speaker 4: About we worry about Buffalo. I don't know if you've
- 1:13:31Speaker 4: paid attention. They've got this guy named Josh Allen. It
- 1:13:35Speaker 4: was pretty good.
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: And then the ball.
- 1:13:40Speaker 4: They got this guy who's gonna be the Hall of
- 1:13:42Speaker 4: Fame one day named von Miller. Who's back.
- 1:13:46Speaker 5: He is back.
- 1:13:47Speaker 4: You know.
- 1:13:48Speaker 6: I talked to him in training camp Tony, and I've
- 1:13:52Speaker 6: known him for a long time, and he said, he
- 1:13:53Speaker 6: said to me, he goes. You know, I thought last
- 1:13:56Speaker 6: year I'd come back from my knee injury like I
- 1:13:59Speaker 6: did the first time when he was like in his twenties,
- 1:14:02Speaker 6: And he said, it took me about halfway and I
- 1:14:04Speaker 6: realized it don't happened that way anymore when you get
- 1:14:06Speaker 6: to be this age, he goes. But now for the
- 1:14:09Speaker 6: first time, since that knee injury, I feel like my
- 1:14:13Speaker 6: old self again. Now he's never gonna be that bond
- 1:14:16Speaker 6: again because he's not that young again.
- 1:14:19Speaker 5: But boy, when you watched the.
- 1:14:20Speaker 6: Tape last week and the week before, you're starting to
- 1:14:24Speaker 6: see flashes of that explosive ability. And when you combine
- 1:14:28Speaker 6: it with that Oliver on the inside and Greg Russo
- 1:14:32Speaker 6: on the other side, that team can get after the quarterback.
- 1:14:35Speaker 6: You you saw it this week with the with the Browns.
- 1:14:38Speaker 6: They better be ready to block those guys when they're
- 1:14:41Speaker 6: in four man rushes or else you're gonna have a long,
- 1:14:43Speaker 6: long day.
- 1:14:44Speaker 4: Better run the ball, keep mind, keep keep it down,
- 1:14:47Speaker 4: keep the change in front of you. Uh as far
- 1:14:50Speaker 4: as the head of the change, because you don't want to.
- 1:14:53Speaker 6: Go to dictate tempo and don't put yourself in third
- 1:14:55Speaker 6: and long situation.
- 1:14:56Speaker 7: That's my point.
- 1:14:57Speaker 4: Don't You don't want to get into obvious situations where
- 1:15:00Speaker 4: they can you know, roll out that group you just
- 1:15:02Speaker 4: mentioned Pete and get after you.
- 1:15:05Speaker 6: You guys went there once wave on a long time
- 1:15:07Speaker 6: ago and you ran the ball with Natron, took the
- 1:15:10Speaker 6: pressure off everybody. I mean, you did do that, but
- 1:15:13Speaker 6: you could also go in that side of situation and
- 1:15:16Speaker 6: dictate the tempo and not allow them to become pass rushers.
- 1:15:20Speaker 7: You got to you gotta convert third downs and keep
- 1:15:23Speaker 7: them on the field. Yes, but they get tired.
- 1:15:26Speaker 4: There.
- 1:15:27Speaker 1: You have it, keeping it real, presented by nobody bonus
- 1:15:30Speaker 1: keeping it real. Though here before we go, Jaguars defense
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: couldn't get off the field on fourth down yesterday. The
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: Browns are three of three. Jameis Winston comes in the
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: game three times.
- 1:15:44Speaker 4: You shouldn't get those four downs. They're all fourth in
- 1:15:46Speaker 4: less in a yard.
- 1:15:49Speaker 5: For thirty yards.
- 1:15:50Speaker 4: Yes, they were so hell bent on stopping Jameis Winston,
- 1:15:54Speaker 4: who's like six ' five two forty and you know
- 1:15:59Speaker 4: obviously can run. The quarterbacks sneak very well. And they
- 1:16:01Speaker 4: were all pinned in there, and they got the old
- 1:16:04Speaker 4: look here and we're gonna go over here, a little
- 1:16:07Speaker 4: end around, you know what.
- 1:16:08Speaker 5: I like what the Browns did do and the goal line.
- 1:16:12Speaker 6: I liked that they emptied and spread them out and
- 1:16:16Speaker 6: ran that quarterback power or whatever it was.
- 1:16:20Speaker 5: With with with it was power.
- 1:16:23Speaker 6: They pulled power, They pulled the guard and they and
- 1:16:26Speaker 6: and so I I like that. You know, everybody always
- 1:16:29Speaker 6: gets so bunched up and look, Trevor could run that
- 1:16:32Speaker 6: play if you if you ran quarterback power on the
- 1:16:34Speaker 6: goal line. He's athletic enough to run. That play was
- 1:16:37Speaker 6: well designed. It was I I like that. Everybody gets so,
- 1:16:42Speaker 6: you know, everybody bunched up. Let's fight in the phone booth.
- 1:16:45Speaker 6: You know it's all well and good, But why can't
- 1:16:47Speaker 6: you do that once in a while? You do it
- 1:16:49Speaker 6: all the time? You liked it, so you liked it.
- 1:16:54Speaker 7: I thought it was very good play.
- 1:16:56Speaker 5: Yeah, couldn't the Jaggers.
- 1:16:58Speaker 7: Run something like that? We used to have quarter drawing
- 1:17:00Speaker 7: for tight red, did you with Brunel?
- 1:17:03Speaker 4: Right?
- 1:17:03Speaker 6: Yeah, well he could run. Trevor could run too. He
- 1:17:07Speaker 6: saw that on the play. Should he have scored on
- 1:17:09Speaker 6: that play?
- 1:17:10Speaker 7: No, he thought about cutting back inside.
- 1:17:14Speaker 5: I thought I saw it. He saw that coming out
- 1:17:16Speaker 5: of the corner of his eyes.
- 1:17:17Speaker 7: Said nah, nohing he was gonna get hammered.
- 1:17:19Speaker 6: People thought he could have run on the one way
- 1:17:21Speaker 6: through to ETN. I thought, ETN, he made the right play.
- 1:17:23Speaker 6: ETN doesn't fall down.
- 1:17:24Speaker 5: That's a touchdown.
- 1:17:25Speaker 4: Yeah, I was fine going all.
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: Right, there you go, a bonus keeping it real. We're
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- 1:18:07Speaker 1: style wings and chicken casadias.
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- 1:18:59Speaker 4: I go home dealing with the family. But at halftime
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- 1:19:30Speaker 1: Time now for the Fanatics fan questions. Jaguars fans gear
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- 1:19:43Speaker 1: out on X. Here's the best we've come up with
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: at Tresimos. You're the head coach and offensive coordinator. What
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: do you want to what do you do to correct
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: issues on offenses? The players, the coaches, the quote we
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: need to execute better end quote line is getting old.
- 1:20:02Speaker 4: It's all the above, and I get the frustration of
- 1:20:05Speaker 4: hearing we need to execute better. But at the end
- 1:20:07Speaker 4: of the day, that's kind of what you need to do.
- 1:20:10Speaker 4: I mean, people brings up some interesting ideas. Do you
- 1:20:12Speaker 4: pick up the pace, change the tempo? I do think.
- 1:20:17Speaker 4: I mean, right now, you're most productive receiver is Brian
- 1:20:20Speaker 4: Thomas Jr. So do you try to get him involved
- 1:20:23Speaker 4: more deep shots early in the game. Possibly, Also, we
- 1:20:27Speaker 4: don't know how much of the do they trust Do
- 1:20:31Speaker 4: they trust them with the whole playbook right now? I'm
- 1:20:33Speaker 4: not saying they don't, but we don't know that kind
- 1:20:35Speaker 4: of stuff. So there's always a learning curve for a rookie.
- 1:20:38Speaker 4: So you gotta be you gotta kind of be aware
- 1:20:40Speaker 4: of that. I think that. But sometimes the worst thing
- 1:20:44Speaker 4: you can do is start panicking and trying different stuff
- 1:20:47Speaker 4: and like, oh, we need you to do this, let's
- 1:20:49Speaker 4: try that, Let's try this, try that, try that, because
- 1:20:51Speaker 4: then you really never get an identity. You really don't
- 1:20:53Speaker 4: settle down to what you're good at. Sometimes the right
- 1:20:56Speaker 4: answer is actually simplifying it even more and say, okay,
- 1:20:59Speaker 4: what do we do out and let's just go let's
- 1:21:03Speaker 4: just go do these things as we do these well,
- 1:21:05Speaker 4: and let's let's become perfect with these and just do
- 1:21:08Speaker 4: it out of different formations or you know. So there's
- 1:21:11Speaker 4: not any there's no there's no magic bullet, there's no like, hey,
- 1:21:16Speaker 4: just do this. Everything's to be fixed. It's it's a
- 1:21:19Speaker 4: combination of players playing better, coaches coaching better, get you
- 1:21:22Speaker 4: know better procedural stuff, getting it out of the huddle,
- 1:21:25Speaker 4: eliminating the pre snat penalties, don't shoot yourself in the foot.
- 1:21:29Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you got to execute.
- 1:21:31Speaker 4: I know no one wants to hear that, but the
- 1:21:33Speaker 4: plays called call offensive play, they're gonna call a defensive play.
- 1:21:38Speaker 4: Go block it up and then your playmaker's gotta make plays.
- 1:21:42Speaker 6: But if you play faster, you play a little free,
- 1:21:44Speaker 6: or you you use that deep speed that you were
- 1:21:46Speaker 6: just talking about. Even if he's not getting the ball,
- 1:21:48Speaker 6: times you back him off a little bit, get some
- 1:21:49Speaker 6: stuff underneath. I think that gets him into a little
- 1:21:51Speaker 6: bit of a rhythm. You get a touchdown early and
- 1:21:54Speaker 6: you start dictating a little tempo, and then you could
- 1:21:57Speaker 6: come back with your runs and your right you know,
- 1:21:59Speaker 6: get the ball to etn y. I just think they
- 1:22:02Speaker 6: need to do that a little bit more. I think
- 1:22:03Speaker 6: he plays better that way. Let him look at it
- 1:22:05Speaker 6: that way, not always this way, turning around, bootlegg him mount,
- 1:22:09Speaker 6: let him folk that way.
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: Look at it and you're radio audience, you're pointing down
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: the field?
- 1:22:15Speaker 2: Is where you're pointing out in the field.
- 1:22:16Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's critical guys that Monday night to
- 1:22:19Speaker 4: have a fast start offensively. Yes, I think it's really
- 1:22:22Speaker 4: important to get some good mojo going, little confidence, feeling
- 1:22:26Speaker 4: good about yourself like that. Opening drive for this offense
- 1:22:30Speaker 4: is be critical.
- 1:22:30Speaker 5: What's the deal with Ingram? Probably not going to go
- 1:22:32Speaker 5: on Monday.
- 1:22:35Speaker 4: It sounds like a slight hamstring a lot nothing serious.
- 1:22:39Speaker 4: I mean, Doug said today JP correctly if I'm wrong.
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: Day to day, Yeah, kind of, he didn't, And usually
- 1:22:45Speaker 1: with hamstrings he doesn't like to put a timetable on
- 1:22:47Speaker 1: anyway because they can be tricky and all that, So
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: he didn't really put a timetable on it. But yeah,
- 1:22:54Speaker 1: kind of, it.
- 1:22:54Speaker 4: Didn't seem like it was a serious hamstring at this time.
- 1:22:57Speaker 1: Least the Tyson Campbell Won's real this this is not bad.
- 1:23:00Speaker 1: It felt so, By the way, what kind of play.
- 1:23:04Speaker 1: What was that when they got Brian Thomas deep? Was
- 1:23:07Speaker 1: that super protected like?
- 1:23:10Speaker 5: Or was it?
- 1:23:10Speaker 2: How did he get deep? How'd they throw it deep?
- 1:23:12Speaker 5: That one wasn't super that wasn't a max protect.
- 1:23:14Speaker 7: Yeah, it was all playoffs and fake lit.
- 1:23:17Speaker 5: Yeah, and he protected him well then on that play.
- 1:23:20Speaker 4: Yeah, he sold it like he was going to break
- 1:23:22Speaker 4: towards the corner and then broke it to the middle
- 1:23:23Speaker 4: of the field and just he's faster than everyone else
- 1:23:26Speaker 4: and just ran by him.
- 1:23:27Speaker 5: Perfect throw.
- 1:23:28Speaker 1: Okay, next question, Uh, and yeah, it was a perfect throw.
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: He had time, well, he had time all day to
- 1:23:35Speaker 1: throw that ball and kind of bumped him off of
- 1:23:37Speaker 1: the nice catch by Brian Thomas and flipped the field
- 1:23:39Speaker 1: and got the Jags offense.
- 1:23:41Speaker 4: Go.
- 1:23:41Speaker 1: Next question at blue collar is the de coordinator going
- 1:23:44Speaker 1: a little crazy with substitutions? The best player should be
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: on the field as much as possible. Thanks, Well, we
- 1:23:49Speaker 1: talked about that.
- 1:23:50Speaker 5: I didn't write that list you as your burner. That's
- 1:23:53Speaker 5: not my burner.
- 1:23:55Speaker 4: But but I agree with him. I agree that we
- 1:23:58Speaker 4: talked about it earlier.
- 1:24:00Speaker 5: They suck to you're too much.
- 1:24:03Speaker 1: That's gonna keep going though, right, That's just what they're doing.
- 1:24:07Speaker 7: I think that's its philosophy.
- 1:24:09Speaker 5: It's one like I've never seen before.
- 1:24:12Speaker 7: Then I have not either.
- 1:24:16Speaker 5: I mean, if I'm the starting middle linebacker and I
- 1:24:19Speaker 5: won that job.
- 1:24:20Speaker 6: And I see my cohorts around the league playing sixty
- 1:24:23Speaker 6: one of the sixty one snaps other than or sixty
- 1:24:26Speaker 6: one or sixty two, maybe going off the tire shoe,
- 1:24:28Speaker 6: then I'm I'm angry about it. I don't want to
- 1:24:31Speaker 6: come off I won the job. There's a big difference
- 1:24:33Speaker 6: between me winning the job starting and you playing the backup.
- 1:24:38Speaker 6: There's a difference. There's a reason he's the backup. There's
- 1:24:40Speaker 6: a reason I'm the starter.
- 1:24:45Speaker 2: Next question, next question that will be eight and eight.
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: Why was Mason Smith a healthy scratch, bad look for
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: a second round pick.
- 1:24:52Speaker 4: That's a great question. I mean, something happened, well done.
- 1:24:57Speaker 4: I thought I read somewhere and maybe I heard this.
- 1:24:59Speaker 4: Duck said it's nothing he did or didn't do.
- 1:25:05Speaker 5: Break give me a break on that.
- 1:25:07Speaker 4: I don't know, like I've never really Typically it is
- 1:25:13Speaker 4: you do, you either do something or don't. So basically,
- 1:25:17Speaker 4: what that tells me is the guys behind him are
- 1:25:19Speaker 4: playing better than he is. But this is a professional sport.
- 1:25:23Speaker 5: I see, but I don't buy that one because I
- 1:25:25Speaker 5: don't think of.
- 1:25:26Speaker 4: This is like professional football. So if he was up
- 1:25:31Speaker 4: and then he was down, that means that they think
- 1:25:33Speaker 4: the guys behind him are better than.
- 1:25:35Speaker 6: Him right now, or he did something, or he did something,
- 1:25:39Speaker 6: or he missed a curfew or something, and and and I.
- 1:25:42Speaker 7: Don't think it's that. I do not think it's that.
- 1:25:45Speaker 6: Or he did something in practice or something something happened.
- 1:25:48Speaker 6: There's some reason. And I don't think because those guys
- 1:25:51Speaker 6: weren't any better than he was last week. In fact,
- 1:25:53Speaker 6: he was.
- 1:25:54Speaker 5: He was better than both of them that were up.
- 1:25:56Speaker 5: He was every bit as good as but not worse.
- 1:26:00Speaker 1: When was the last time a second round pick was
- 1:26:02Speaker 1: a healthy scratch that year? Those guys use it up
- 1:26:06Speaker 1: all the time, right, most.
- 1:26:09Speaker 7: Of the time.
- 1:26:09Speaker 5: Yes, Yeah, that's it's weird.
- 1:26:12Speaker 6: There's there's a story there. What was the other one
- 1:26:14Speaker 6: that we wanted to get a story on that we
- 1:26:16Speaker 6: didn't know where Roberts and Harris playing in the deep
- 1:26:19Speaker 6: into the proceeds.
- 1:26:20Speaker 5: Still haven't got that story yet. Who's calling the place?
- 1:26:23Speaker 5: Haven't got that story yet? Who is called?
- 1:26:27Speaker 10: Like?
- 1:26:27Speaker 4: It seems like you've a bone to pick with the
- 1:26:29Speaker 4: Beat writers. Beat isn't that the Beat writers?
- 1:26:31Speaker 2: Well, I mean most of them. Listen to the show.
- 1:26:33Speaker 2: You can tell him right now.
- 1:26:34Speaker 4: Pete, tell them what you think?
- 1:26:36Speaker 5: Can Can you find out who the play caller is?
- 1:26:38Speaker 4: Please?
- 1:26:40Speaker 5: But when? When? When you put an oculars on him?
- 1:26:43Speaker 5: That's somebody somebody said have to be today. If you
- 1:26:45Speaker 5: put an oculars on him, could you tell who the
- 1:26:46Speaker 5: play caller was?
- 1:26:48Speaker 1: It's on the other side. It's on the near side
- 1:26:50Speaker 1: of the field, so they're facing the field.
- 1:26:51Speaker 7: Come on, I've never I.
- 1:26:55Speaker 4: Guess I I probably shouldn't care more. I don't care
- 1:26:57Speaker 4: enough to.
- 1:27:00Speaker 5: Well, somebody's responsible for it.
- 1:27:02Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Doug is OULTI Well.
- 1:27:04Speaker 5: He's the head coach. He's responsible for everything. But who's
- 1:27:06Speaker 5: responsible for Yeah?
- 1:27:08Speaker 4: So if you're not going to tell us who's going plays,
- 1:27:11Speaker 4: that means the head coach is responsible.
- 1:27:12Speaker 5: Okay, I'll give you that. I'll take that.
- 1:27:15Speaker 7: It's pretty easy to me.
- 1:27:17Speaker 2: One more.
- 1:27:18Speaker 1: That's all you had to ask the Beat writers, Pete,
- 1:27:20Speaker 1: was that one question?
- 1:27:21Speaker 4: That's it?
- 1:27:21Speaker 5: No, I gave you three.
- 1:27:22Speaker 6: I gave you the Roy Roberts and Harris deep into
- 1:27:24Speaker 6: the playing, deep into the preseason. Why Mason Smith was
- 1:27:28Speaker 6: down as a second round pick, and uh, why why?
- 1:27:31Speaker 6: But the other one is why does he rotate the
- 1:27:33Speaker 6: linebackers the way he does? That's a good question.
- 1:27:36Speaker 1: You just have a longer list of grievances.
- 1:27:38Speaker 6: I had to believe me, back in the day when
- 1:27:40Speaker 6: I paid closer attention to every little minutia detail on
- 1:27:43Speaker 6: the whole team, I had plenty of questions.
- 1:27:45Speaker 4: You have no idea what Pete.
- 1:27:47Speaker 3: Was like.
- 1:27:49Speaker 5: Obnoxious? I was obnoxious?
- 1:27:52Speaker 4: Obnoxious? Is being kind whatever? Like is like the next
- 1:27:56Speaker 4: level of being obnoxious, like abub obnoxious?
- 1:27:59Speaker 5: You know.
- 1:28:00Speaker 1: Another way to explain it is he was thorough.
- 1:28:03Speaker 5: Oh I was thorough, but I didn't have answers to him.
- 1:28:07Speaker 5: Let's put it that way.
- 1:28:08Speaker 4: You'd be waiting by your car.
- 1:28:11Speaker 1: Can't do that.
- 1:28:12Speaker 6: You can't do that anymore. That's part of the problem.
- 1:28:14Speaker 6: Why the beat guy, by the way, that's part of
- 1:28:16Speaker 6: the problem. Why the beat guys can't do it that
- 1:28:19Speaker 6: way anymore? And it's hard to get access because you
- 1:28:21Speaker 6: don't get the the relationships that you were able to
- 1:28:25Speaker 6: get because they park in the back now right in
- 1:28:27Speaker 6: a secure area. You can't get back there. The locker
- 1:28:30Speaker 6: room's open limited, it's not open in training. Can't you
- 1:28:34Speaker 6: can't have grabbed Goud. It's just it's different. It's a
- 1:28:37Speaker 6: different thing now anybody. And I'm not criticizing the beat guys.
- 1:28:40Speaker 6: I think they should ask these questions, but and I'm
- 1:28:43Speaker 6: sure they have and they get blown off. But you
- 1:28:45Speaker 6: can't get relationships anymore, Tony, It's hard.
- 1:28:47Speaker 5: I wouldn't want to be a beat guy now.
- 1:28:49Speaker 6: It's everything and everything at the podium, so you can't
- 1:28:52Speaker 6: answer the question to get the answers.
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- 1:29:11Speaker 2: We will go around the National Football League in Week two.
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- 1:29:48Speaker 1: League and check out some scores from this week. Bill's
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: dominated the Dolphins on Thursday. Of course, the Raiders over
- 1:29:55Speaker 1: the Ravens. And don't look now, but Gardner Minshew is
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: at the top of many passing statistics in the league
- 1:30:03Speaker 1: through two weeks, Pete, what's up?
- 1:30:05Speaker 6: That'll that'll even out? By the way, Rock Bowers is
- 1:30:10Speaker 6: darn good man. If you know, you look, you looked
- 1:30:13Speaker 6: at him at college. You knew he could catch a
- 1:30:14Speaker 6: football and make plays. He didn't look very good when
- 1:30:17Speaker 6: he went to his you know, combine and look at
- 1:30:20Speaker 6: him and he looks like a forty two year old
- 1:30:21Speaker 6: guy from the YMCA.
- 1:30:23Speaker 5: But man, he can play. The Ravens have issues, you
- 1:30:26Speaker 5: know what.
- 1:30:26Speaker 6: The Ravens have issues on Tony their offensive line.
- 1:30:31Speaker 1: Yep, Chargers blast the Panthers and the Panthers bench Bryce Young.
- 1:30:36Speaker 4: So so it's funny you just said this, Pete. You
- 1:30:39Speaker 4: said the Ravens have issues because their offensive line. What
- 1:30:43Speaker 4: one coach went into the draft and said, we are
- 1:30:46Speaker 4: going to draft offensive lineman. I consider them skilled position players.
- 1:30:51Speaker 5: Jim Harball.
- 1:30:52Speaker 4: Jim Harball said, I'm going to build this offensive line.
- 1:30:56Speaker 4: We're gonna run the ball, We're gonna pay good defense,
- 1:30:59Speaker 4: and we're gonna be physical or zero.
- 1:31:03Speaker 6: They beat the Raiders and the Panthers, so let's slow
- 1:31:05Speaker 6: the roll a little bit.
- 1:31:06Speaker 7: I'm not saying they're gonna win the Super Bowl.
- 1:31:07Speaker 4: Pet. I just think it's interesting because you just said
- 1:31:11Speaker 4: the Ravens show the offensive line. And by the way,
- 1:31:15Speaker 4: that same Raider defense who got after Lamar charges offensive
- 1:31:20Speaker 4: line did a pretty good job against Raiders that day.
- 1:31:23Speaker 5: Not bad, not bad, not good, but not bad. But
- 1:31:26Speaker 5: you know it's funny too.
- 1:31:27Speaker 6: You look at the Herbert Herbert Stone for a under
- 1:31:29Speaker 6: two hundred yards in two games.
- 1:31:31Speaker 4: That's not how Jim harb Jim Harbo does not. He
- 1:31:34Speaker 4: plays a difference to football. Yeah, what about so Bryce
- 1:31:37Speaker 4: Young is it?
- 1:31:38Speaker 5: I mean they're done with him, that's the end of it.
- 1:31:41Speaker 5: He's terrible.
- 1:31:42Speaker 1: Didn't last long.
- 1:31:43Speaker 4: Bee, Where were you? I'll be honest now, because I
- 1:31:46Speaker 4: was from the beginning. I'll just be very honest. I
- 1:31:48Speaker 4: was never a Bryce Young guy. I would never drafted them.
- 1:31:51Speaker 4: I said, he's too small, he cannot you just like
- 1:31:54Speaker 4: so is Ia.
- 1:31:55Speaker 5: Thing, same thing. I wouldn't have taken him. Now.
- 1:31:59Speaker 6: Rick Spielman works with me, said he was a combination
- 1:32:02Speaker 6: between Patrick Mahomes and Steph Curry.
- 1:32:05Speaker 5: Well, well, well you can't go back to him now, right,
- 1:32:10Speaker 5: it's done.
- 1:32:11Speaker 7: I think it's over.
- 1:32:12Speaker 1: Yeah, lasted one of season in two games.
- 1:32:16Speaker 6: I wouldn't I'll be honest with you. I wouldn't have
- 1:32:18Speaker 6: benched him. You've drafted him. I would have let him
- 1:32:20Speaker 6: play play. Yeah, let him play through it, see what happens,
- 1:32:23Speaker 6: and then if you got a bench him, you bench him.
- 1:32:25Speaker 7: I thought it was I thought it was a quick trigger,
- 1:32:27Speaker 7: too quick cook.
- 1:32:29Speaker 2: Saints over the Cowboys Alvin Kamara, what a day.
- 1:32:33Speaker 5: I mean, they beat the daylights out of them.
- 1:32:36Speaker 6: But you know what, Clint Kubiak, the offensive coordinator, knows
- 1:32:42Speaker 6: Mike Zimmer very well because he used to be his
- 1:32:44Speaker 6: offensive coordinator and now Mike Zimmer coordinates the defense.
- 1:32:48Speaker 5: In uh in Dallas, they had every answer.
- 1:32:53Speaker 6: No, I'll tell you who is good. Tony He's gonna
- 1:32:56Speaker 6: be really good. That offensive tackle from Oregon State for
- 1:33:00Speaker 6: They're gonna be the real deal.
- 1:33:01Speaker 5: He's good.
- 1:33:04Speaker 1: Bucks beat the Lions twenty to sixteen, Packers over the
- 1:33:08Speaker 1: Colts sixteen to ten with the backup quarterback in Green Bay,
- 1:33:12Speaker 1: and then the Vikings over the Niners twenty three to seventeen.
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: They had an injury at wide receiver Pete.
- 1:33:18Speaker 2: What in the world happened?
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: Who Vikings?
- 1:33:22Speaker 4: Justin?
- 1:33:22Speaker 6: Justin Jefferson got hurt, He got thinged up a little bit,
- 1:33:24Speaker 6: but not before that, he had a ninety seven yard touchdown.
- 1:33:27Speaker 2: I saw that one.
- 1:33:28Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what they got after the Niners. They
- 1:33:32Speaker 6: beat up on brock Purty a little bit in that game.
- 1:33:34Speaker 6: That Brian Flores is one hell of a defensive coordinator.
- 1:33:37Speaker 6: What he throws at them, it's amazing.
- 1:33:40Speaker 7: I want to go back to the Colts game.
- 1:33:42Speaker 4: Is Anthony Richardson just atrocis right now?
- 1:33:44Speaker 7: Is he bad?
- 1:33:44Speaker 4: I have not seen anything.
- 1:33:46Speaker 5: For every one good throw he makes, he makes two
- 1:33:48Speaker 5: bad ones.
- 1:33:52Speaker 7: I mean to score ten points.
- 1:33:53Speaker 6: I mean some of the some of them you sit
- 1:33:55Speaker 6: there and you go wow, and then like two throws later,
- 1:33:58Speaker 6: he's thrown it into the chest in the linebacker.
- 1:34:00Speaker 4: Was much like the University when he was Florida.
- 1:34:04Speaker 1: Yeah, moving on to an overtime game Seattle over New
- 1:34:08Speaker 1: England twenty three twenty The Jets beat the Titans twenty
- 1:34:12Speaker 1: four to seventeen.
- 1:34:13Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers gets to win.
- 1:34:15Speaker 5: Will Levis, what are you doing? Oh?
- 1:34:17Speaker 6: I mean, he plays pretty good football for an entire game,
- 1:34:21Speaker 6: and then I don't.
- 1:34:23Speaker 5: You can't be that dumb during a game.
- 1:34:25Speaker 1: It's just easy that you will be coach ripping him
- 1:34:28Speaker 1: on the sideline like that.
- 1:34:29Speaker 5: They they, I mean the coach should have ripped him.
- 1:34:32Speaker 5: I might have grabbed him by his helmet and shook
- 1:34:33Speaker 5: him around.
- 1:34:34Speaker 4: A little bit.
- 1:34:34Speaker 5: If I was the coach, he was more restraint than
- 1:34:36Speaker 5: I did. You can't do that.
- 1:34:39Speaker 6: And by the way, they still had a chance to
- 1:34:41Speaker 6: win the game, and Ridley he threw a great ball,
- 1:34:43Speaker 6: deep ball. Ridley made a catch down the sideline. I
- 1:34:45Speaker 6: know if you guys saw it, but that was a
- 1:34:46Speaker 6: hell of a catch.
- 1:34:48Speaker 4: He's just mad because Will Levits is his guy.
- 1:34:51Speaker 7: He's gone, He's gone.
- 1:34:52Speaker 4: To the mat, much like he did with Christian Ponder.
- 1:34:54Speaker 5: No, I didn't go to the math of Christian Ponder.
- 1:34:56Speaker 5: That was pretty apparent right out of the gate.
- 1:35:00Speaker 6: And by the way, I'd still take Will Levis over
- 1:35:01Speaker 6: Bryce Young and so would you.
- 1:35:03Speaker 1: Seven field goals for the Commanders in a twenty one
- 1:35:05Speaker 1: eighteen win over the Giants, Cardinals blast the Rams forty
- 1:35:09Speaker 1: one to ten. The rookie wide receiver Marvin Harrison goes
- 1:35:12Speaker 1: wild Steelers over the Broncos thirteen six, the Chiefs speat
- 1:35:16Speaker 1: the Bengals twenty six to twenty five, and a good
- 1:35:18Speaker 1: win last night at least for the Texans nineteen thirteen
- 1:35:21Speaker 1: over the Bears.
- 1:35:23Speaker 2: And time for Monday Night football.
- 1:35:24Speaker 1: We head to South Philadelphia Lincoln Financial Field. This sight
- 1:35:28Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles at one to zero.
- 1:35:30Speaker 1: We'll go without wide receiver A J.
- 1:35:32Speaker 2: Brown.
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: Tonight they welcome in Kirk Cousins and the Atlanta Falcons.
- 1:35:36Speaker 1: Cousins three and ten all time on Monday Night Football.
- 1:35:39Speaker 2: Who you got?
- 1:35:42Speaker 5: I think the Eagles win, but I think it's closer
- 1:35:44Speaker 5: than you think. I think the Eagles have problems on defense.
- 1:35:47Speaker 6: I Kirk Cousins the last time he played the Eagles
- 1:35:49Speaker 6: through for about three hundred and fifty and four touchdowns
- 1:35:51Speaker 6: when he was with the Vikings. I think he even
- 1:35:53Speaker 6: though it's Monday night curse goes against him. I think
- 1:35:55Speaker 6: he plays decent here. I'll take the Eagles win it,
- 1:35:58Speaker 6: but I think it's a close.
- 1:35:59Speaker 7: Game and Falcons win A J Brown is big?
- 1:36:03Speaker 5: You do well, Tony, Tony big? Here you go?
- 1:36:07Speaker 4: Hey.
- 1:36:07Speaker 6: I called the Vikings upset yesterday and a lot of
- 1:36:09Speaker 6: people thought I was crazy. So weird things have happened.
- 1:36:13Speaker 4: Stillerly, Pete Sipperately.
- 1:36:15Speaker 2: It is there.
- 1:36:17Speaker 6: You have it Monday, Tony, you're gonna lock next Monday night.
- 1:36:22Speaker 5: What we're not on next Monday? Are we?
- 1:36:23Speaker 2: We're not the game going on football?
- 1:36:27Speaker 6: I knew that, So we're not doing Tuesday either? Right,
- 1:36:30Speaker 6: We're just off next week? I think, yeah, you but
- 1:36:34Speaker 6: our audience wants and craves us.
- 1:36:36Speaker 5: Don't you realize that? Jp?
- 1:36:38Speaker 1: I'm aware we should do Tuesday.
- 1:36:41Speaker 7: Why are we doing Tuesday? Because it's a big game.
- 1:36:43Speaker 1: Don't give anybody in the ideas. Tony, what are you doing?
- 1:36:46Speaker 5: The season could be over by tuesday.
- 1:36:48Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Pete, what are you doing?
- 1:36:50Speaker 2: Come on?
- 1:36:51Speaker 5: We can start. We can start talking draft.
- 1:36:57Speaker 4: Remember the whool is you can't talk draft until you're
- 1:37:00Speaker 4: a limited.
- 1:37:02Speaker 5: Big people, big people, big people.
- 1:37:08Speaker 1: That grinch laugh is Pete Prisco, that's Tony VASSELLI.
- 1:37:13Speaker 2: I'm JP Shaddick.
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: Thanks to our entire crew, Joe fortune O, Brent Reaper,
- 1:37:16Speaker 1: David Choe, Manny Alvarez, Penzen, Nick Cortez, Kateky, William P's Brooke, Hopfey,
- 1:37:22Speaker 1: the whole crew.
- 1:37:23Speaker 2: This has been Jaguars Happy Hour. We'll talk to you
- 1:37:25Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks.