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THE ART OF MANIFESTING with COLETTE BARON-REID · The Karen Kenney Show

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Karen Kenney: It's the Karen Kenney show. Hey you guys.
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Welcome to the show. I'm wicked excited to share with you a
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conversation that I had with my guests this week. Now some of
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you might know who she is, especially if you're kind of in
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the spiritual community and you're into Oracle oracle decks,
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like card decks and stuff like that. You might know who she is,
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but for those of you who don't, I'm just going to share with you
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some of her bio and stuff like that. So Colette Baron Reed is
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an internationally respected author of eight books. She's an
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educator, she's a spiritual intuitive and medium, and she is
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an Oracle expert. She's published 19 oracle decks, and
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they have sold over 2 million copies, which is just like
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crazy. Her best selling books in Oracle cars have also been
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published worldwide into like 27 different languages. She's the
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founder of the Oracle School, which is a global online
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learning platform and has students in 35 countries, and
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it's all about it brings together empowerment, co
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creation and ancient oracles, but in a modern and contemporary
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way, she's also the creator of the energy psychology technique
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called envision the total mind shift process. She divides her
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time between Canada and the United States with her husband,
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and she has three funny little Pomeranians. And you guys, if
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you stick around to the very end, you're gonna get to see
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you're gonna get to see one of her little, teeny, tiny
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Pomeranians. It is worth sticking around for just that,
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but our conversation is fantastic. What we're really
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talking about is her new book. And first of all, actually, let
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me just hold up if you these are two of her best selling Oracle
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deck cards. This is the wisdom of the Oracle. And then this one
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is the spirit animal Oracle, which is, like, one of my
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favorite decks of all times. You know me, I love animals, and
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it's also really beautiful. The at work in these is, like,
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gorgeous. Okay, so what we were really talking about on my show
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today is her new book. It's called the at of manifesting.
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And this is a meditative drawing practice to rewire your brain
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and create your reality. It's so fantastic. It brings together
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neuroscience, spirituality and creativity. I think this is such
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an incredible thing. I love this book. I've been doing my own
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drawings and stuff, which you'll see if you watch the show, if
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you and this might be an episode, PS, where you want to
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watch it instead of listen to it. You'll still get a lot from
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it if you listen to it. But there's going to be times where
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I'm like, holding up drawings, and it will make more sense if
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you can just see what the frick I'm talking about. You know what
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I mean? But Colette was lovely. Think we had a great
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conversation, and she co authored this book with another
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fellow artist, because Colette is also an artist named Anna
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Denning, and I just think it's really cool. And why I wanted to
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talk about this book in particular with her is that I
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haven't always been a fan of manifesting. I think the way
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that it's talked about and taught is kind of screwed up.
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It's kind of suspicious. It's a little suspect. And I didn't
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really, I didn't really like where so much of the quote,
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unquote, spiritual community like how they talk about it, so
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we kind of get into that. And I thought this was a really
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fascinating and interesting way, an angle, to come at it by a
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different way of looking at things. And I think you're going
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to enjoy the conversation. She's a delight. We had so much fun
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chatting, and I'm just so happy to share this with you. So
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enjoy. You don't even really have to buckle up for safety.
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Nothing, nothing big, nothing bad or major happened, but we
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had a lot of fun, good, high energy. And like I said, I think
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you're going to really enjoy learning about it. And she also
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has a workshop coming up that if you're curious about this,
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definitely check it out, because I think you'll find it really
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fun. And there's a short, little 15 minute video that she offers.
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It's kind of like doodling your way out of anxiety that I that I
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participated in because I wanted to see the effects of it myself,
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and I thought it was really fantastic. So having said all
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that, you guys, thank you so much for listening, and I hope
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you really enjoy this episode in this conversation with Colette
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Baron Reed, Hey, welcome to the Karen Kenney show you guys, I am
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wicked excited. I'm so excited today to share my fantastic,
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beautiful, wonderful, brilliant guest with you, Colette Baron
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Reed, if you listen to the intro, you already heard her
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incredible, impressive bio and all of that stuff. But first and
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foremost, let me just say, Colette, welcome to the show,
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and thank you so much for being here. Oh, my
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Unknown: God, I'm so excited. And you know, I lived in New
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Hampshire for quite a while, and I love hearing the wicked. My
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housekeeper would say, oh, that's just wicked cool, like
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wicked good. I loved it. So you're making me home sick. I
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love New England.
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Karen Kenney: I know. I know. I'm so happy to have you here.
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And I was laughing because I was looking on your website, and you
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basically, kind of go through, like, all the things you do. And
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like you, I'm also a multi passionate I'm a writer, a
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speaker, yoga, like a bunch of spiritual menta, a bunch of
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different things. But you jokingly say, I put here. So
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even though you joke that you're actually unemployed, my joke is
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always, I'm unemployable outside of my own employment, right? You
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know what I mean. But really, the reality is is you're
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actually wicked successful, and so you've done so much. And for
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some people who may not like just know you off the jump, I
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just want to hold up a couple of things. So number one, you have
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19 oracle decks. Like over 2 million
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Unknown: sold, which is crazy, and that's over 20 years, okay,
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and
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Karen Kenney: still, though, okay, you can, you can quantify,
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but, like, look at these. These are my two favorites of yours.
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We were just talking about this. So the welcome Oracle deck, and
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then the spirit animal one. This is you just said, became
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possibly the best selling one of
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Unknown: all you know those two, it goes back and forth. They're
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the most popular is this spirit animal. And I'm kind of excited,
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because spirit animal came because of my dad. My dad taught
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me about spirit animals. He was Serbian, and it's part of Slavic
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folklore. Is almost identical to North American indigenous
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folklore. It's so weird. They're like sisters and brothers and
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and so, yeah, my dad. My dad taught me all about that when I
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was early in my early teens. So it's really exciting, because
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every time I hear that, I go, daddy, oh
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Karen Kenney: my god. That this that does touch my hat too. It
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makes me so happy, because I think these days and we can not
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to go off on a segue from the stat, but like, we're really
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lacking elders. I think it's so it's so wonderful that part of
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your culture and your history got passed down from your dad to
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you and then through you and your decks to like so many
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people. I think that's incredible. But you kind of hit
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on a point that I always jump off on when I have a guest on
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the show. I do mostly, like 90% solo shows, I only have a guest
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on, like, every few months. So I always say, you have to be Thank
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you. Yeah, no, no. But I say that because I have to be
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either, like, wicked curious about a person, or I love their
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work, or I think they're doing great work, and I want to spread
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it around. But the question I always ask people that I have on
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and you mentioned your dad was it's a two fold question. Number
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one, what were you like as a kid, and did your childhood Do
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you think in any way influence, inform or inspire the work that
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you do now, okay?
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Unknown: So I was, I think that when the doctor slapped my ass
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wake me up, I slapped them right back, right. So that's why I was
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a curious, very rebellious little kid. I was always
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talking. I went in grade, nursery school in great in grade
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and kindergarten. In grade one, I remember always being sitting
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outside the classroom because I was talking too much. So I was,
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I was very chatty, chatty, Cathy here, um, and already, when I
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was a really small kid, I had, I had these experiences of knowing
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things I shouldn't know without prior knowledge, you know, just
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like just because I knew who was on the phone, I knew what my
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mom's, you know, bridge lady's husband was doing, I don't know.
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I just knew random things. And when I was little, actually, I
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could think of one thing my nanny, Mrs. Kelly, she was a
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Scottish nanny, really heavy, Scarlet, Scottish brogue. She
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must have been in her early 80s, curly, curly permed hair, and
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she had like a frog in her throat all the time, like she
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like, kind of barfed like burped. But anyway, so she would
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have her friends over and read their cards when they would come
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over. And she was a psychic, like, totally for real. I just,
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she just could not cook for beans. But anyway, so my parents
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would go off to their parties, and there would be Mrs. Kelly.
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And my older sister didn't pay much attention, but I paid a lot
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of attention to this. But I remember one time she was
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telling my mom, we used to have one of these doors that swing in
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and out of the kitchen into the into the dining room. And I
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heard her telling my mom that I had the site in a very your
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daughter has the site in a I know you're not allowed to make
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these, you know, like you can't do the accents anymore. I get
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it, but whatever, I did a good one. So imagine Scottish accent
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and I my mom was upset, and I didn't know why she would be
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upset, because I was so far the only one in the family didn't
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wear glasses. So when I hear her saying she has a snipe, that's
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good, right? But so my childhood. You know, was really
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feeling too much, but really, but I saw fairies in the garden,
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and I know I did, and they were ugly little things, and they
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were they weren't pretty. They weren't like the ones we see,
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like Tinker Bell with fluffy, sprinkly things. They were like,
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mad that I was that I could see them. One of them was like, I'll
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never forget. It it was like it was a big fat dragonfly like
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thing, and it was like it came out of the bushes at me, and it
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looked right at me. And I'll never forget that it happened to
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me maybe two or three times. And Mrs. Kelly knew, so I told her,
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and she's told me not to say anything, like, don't tell your
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parents. But then she told me that it was, she called it a
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thistle something, not a thistle fairy, but I forget. But anyway,
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I was, like, really excited, and then it never happened again.
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But it was I would see odd things, you know, here and
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there. Fast forward to where I am now, okay, doing what I do
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for a living. I believe that curiosity is a superpower. Yes,
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you know, I believe that. I believe and, and so I was always
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a little budding artist back then too. So I was my mom would
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love my little silly drawings of mice and things. But I also know
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that, like finger painting, like you have to create, like your
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five, right, and, and so, you know, right now, with my book
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The Art of manifesting, it's all about that, about bringing that,
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that be little, being forward, and letting go our tight hold
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on, on you. Because I never had attachment to outcomes when I
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was a kid. It was always about and we didn't have tablets,
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right? I'm to be 68 right? So we had no internet, like when kids
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went out. You go out to play and be back by, yeah,
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Karen Kenney: they just kicked you out of the house and, like,
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find myself and whatever, you know what I mean, but yeah,
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you're answering like, you know, several of my questions that I
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have because, you know, in your bio, it's like, oh, I'm a
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spiritual, you know, intuitive and medium. And I'm like, okay,
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for a lot of people, those gifts, those talents or
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abilities, show up in your younger years. And so you you
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were, yeah, you were aware of your gifts back then. And you
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know, it sounds like you were just really open and creative,
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and that's the thing. Like I was a kid who loved to draw, love to
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make marks on paper. I think we've always loved to make marks
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on paper. Like I remember when I traveled to Egypt with my my
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dear friend and spiritual godmother, Marianne Williamson,
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and we went, and the first time I saw the hieroglyphics, and,
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like, sec met and like pyramids, I was like, Oh my God. I just
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feel like, I've, you know, been here before, like, we've been
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making mocks on stone and whatever, like, those were the
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original tablets, right? Like, back in the day, it's like, so
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incredible. But one of the things that I love about what
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you're sharing, you already said a couple of things, is, but oh,
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what I was going to say about that, though, is, even though I
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love to draw, as a kid, I was a kid who liked to draw inside the
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lines, like, I was one of those little like, you know, liked
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everything neat, perfectionist kids. So I always love when I
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meet kind of the wild, free, abandoned kids who are just
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like, I just go crazy and scribble. I think it's so cool.
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But one of the things that I love about the work that you're
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doing, and I this book, is so fantastic, you guys. I'm holding
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up Colette's new book. It's the art of manifesting a meditative
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drawing practice to rewire your brain and create your reality. I
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love that. You can see I've mocked it up. It's pretty we're
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gonna dive into this in one second. But one of the things I
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wanted to say is, in order to get ready for this, as a kid who
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loved to draw like you could just always find me at the table
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with leg crayons and Mark is in my pads of paper. Whatever
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trying to recreate, like Charles Schulz Snoopy or like, whatever
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we're doing, right is that? So to prepare for this, I signed up
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for three of your different events. So I did, yeah, and the
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reason why I'm doing this is this also goes on YouTube. And
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before we start kind of talking about the process, I just wanted
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to show people kind of like, what it might look like from
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somebody who had never done it before, just like them, right?
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So I did doodle your way to calm, clarity and joy, the one
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you did with Mindy Peltz with Mindy, yeah. Okay, so that was
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my first one that I did with you guys, when I was just learning I
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was like, Okay, that was, that was really cool. Then I did a
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new way to vision board. You just did that January, because I
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had thoughts about vision boarding and how I felt about
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vision boarding. But this, I'm going to tell you why I want to
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dive into this. This one, I thought this was so cool. I
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haven't finished it. But what, what I loved about this, we'll
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discuss in a minute, because I want you to kind of break down
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some of the elements. And then I also just did the the fantastic
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meditation on anxiety relief, the spiral reset, meditation
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one, yeah, I just did that. Isn't that fun? This one was
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wicked fun too, and I loved it. So those of you who are
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listening to this at home, if you're not watching, ha. Hop
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over to YouTube so you can see these drawings, because it's so
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not that my drawings are fantastic, but I want you to
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have an idea, right? I want the listeners to have an idea of
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kind of like, what, what we're talking about, but not
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Unknown: about it's really not about making the most beautiful
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drawing. It's about making meaning, right? The marks are
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meaning makers, right? So, so it doesn't have to look I make. I
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used to make a joke that it doesn't have to look like
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Picasso. But then again, Picasso puts eyeballs under your armpit,
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right? So that's a bad example.
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Karen Kenney: Well, you say, and I love this. All you need to do
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is, you just need a pen and paper, and it's so simple, and a
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few quiet minutes, and you just go in and you start the process,
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and all the pressure is off. And for a kid who was a
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perfectionist, as somebody who, like, you know, tried to control
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things, that's why I found safety and all that stuff, my
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nervous system when I'm doing these exercises, when I'm doing,
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you know, the out of manifesting, as you call the am
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method, I just find, like, my whole nervous system just kind
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of like, quiets down and it relaxes like so much. Have you
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found that? And you get that?
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Unknown: I did this. So I this came about because I had anxiety
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during the pandemic. We were always we were doing all these,
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like, big events online all the time, and I was giving really
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too much, right? And yes, and I really feel the feelings of
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everybody, and I needed an outlet, so I signed up for a
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painting class. I never finished it, because I went off and did
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my own thing. After, like, I think it was 13 steps, I did
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four steps, and off I went, right? But anyway, I started
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painting, and painting changed me. I was like, Oh my God, I
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feel so much better. And I wasn't even thinking about
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anything. So then I, year later, I broke my foot, and I couldn't
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stand in front of my canvas. And I'm like, this is one of my
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paintings behind me. Yeah. So anyhow, so I'm like, Okay, what
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am I going to do? So I started going down the rabbit hole and
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and I wanted to understand, why is it that doing art, same
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thing? Because I'm a musician too, and making music, creating
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music or doing art, but mostly just doing simple because this
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is one, this is 1111 1111, prayer marks. This is all marks.
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That's the thing behind me. Yeah. People sent him prayers,
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and I would just mark the canvas until it became that, that
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thing. So just marking, marking without any thought, right?
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Mark, Mark, Mark, how that could just be, like, I let go and I'm
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in a flow state where I couldn't make myself go there, because
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half the time, whenever I get stressed out, I can't remember
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my tapping. I can't remember what the hell things that even
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I've come up with to help you, like, I don't remember the
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protocols my brain goes, Yes, I needed something. And then I
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then I did the research while I was in bed, I, you know, I
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couldn't move. So I was like, Okay, where is this information?
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And sure enough,
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Karen Kenney: neuroscience, of it all neuroscience, exactly
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Unknown: which is what went into the book. Because, I mean, and I
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know the book can be quite heavy, but I know that
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manifestation has been taught by so many people, which is a head
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exercise. It's talks about only in the head, yeah. And I wanted
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it to be an embodied practice, because that's how I know it
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works. Yes, right? So, so, but we also wanted the science
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behind it, because there's enough naysayers as, oh, that's
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just New Age gobbledy Crap. Yeah. I'm like, No, there's real
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science behind this that really is true, and it's just the one
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thing we don't understand is the universe. We it's always going
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to be ineffable, until one day somebody figures it out.
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Whatever. We don't understand consciousness with a capital C.
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We don't know why synchronicities and coincidence
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happen. All we know is that we're in a dialog with the
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universe, and that's what this facilitates, but not in a
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difficult way.
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Karen Kenney: Yes, I simple Yes, and I think that's what I love
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about it. So, you know, I'm a spiritual mentor and an
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integrative coach and a hypnotist, whatever. So
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neuroscience is part of my bag. So when you're saying it's
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really heady, I didn't actually think it was that heady. I think
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it's really clarifying for a lot of people. And I think for
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people who you know, there's a there's a whole bunch of us that
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are like, that's great, yeah, yeah, I'm making mocks on but
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there's a whole population of people that are like, I want to
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know why it works. Well, that's right, that's for, yeah, that's
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how I, you know, I want to get behind the idea because, you
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know, my I'm married to a professional musician, and so I
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know that, and I'm a writer, so I know the power like art and
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creativity for helping us. But one of the things I want to dive
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into is something that you just said about manifestation.
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Because my whole thing about manifestation is, I've always
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been kind of, like, not that much of a fan and not just shit
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on people. Like, I think that book The Secret, like, a bunch
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of people learned about it that way. But I think what happened
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is, is one of the things that I often say to people is like,
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look, man. Fist thing the way that that was taught. I was
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like, I was like, Look, God's not your fucking Aaron boy. No,
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not great. We're not here to, like, just place your order at
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dunks and then you sit back and wait for your riches and your
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Maserati whatever, to come for you. I'm like, that's that's not
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how it is. And then the other feelings that I had, and I'm
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saying these, in case anybody else out there listening might
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relate is I used to be like, Well, if you're grasping and
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wanting and you need to manifest something, I'm like, first of
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all, it assumes you're coming from a place of lack, run away.
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It's gonna run away Exactly. So this is why I'm saying because I
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want you to counter all these things. And then it's like,
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there's also kind of that element where it's lacking
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gratitude for what you already have. So what I loved about this
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method, and each time I get to take a class with you, it's like
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so fun, because I get to see it and learn it in a because, like
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the thing with Mindy, the new vision board and the spiral
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meditation, they're all little doorways into the deeper
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practice. So I just wanted to keep experiencing it. But my
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favorite thing that happened, and I'll hold up this again,
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which I loved. So if you're not looking at this right now, you
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guys, if you can only hear the sound of my voice, just imagine
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that there's a mark, a.in the center of a page, okay, and then
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around that.is a largest circle. But then on the outside of that
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largest circle, there's a box. Now this was my favorite thing
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about this whole thing to me, and please correct me if I'm
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wrong. What I loved about this is this box represents to me.
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I'm not saying this is what you taught, but my take on it was,
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oh yeah. These are like, my limitations and beliefs. So my
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dreams can't really go outside that line. That's the kid that
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colors inside the lines. Now two things, and then I'm going to
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shut up so you can talk. I remember. Well, first of all,
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there's a line in A Course in Miracles that basically talks
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about not, not that we shouldn't judge, but that we can't judge
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because we don't know everything. We don't know have
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all the information. Okay? And then number two, I remember once
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when Oprah said, God dreams a bigger dream for me than I
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dreamed for myself. Okay? What I loved about this again, you
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guys, I'm pointing at the box, is it? I'll never forget, on the
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thing, on the workshop, you said, Leave out, leave room on
22:28
the edges of the box, because that's where the co creation
22:32
with divine intelligence, that loving intelligence, the
22:35
universe, source, God, whatever you call it, right? Love lives.
22:40
And that to me, just like, literally, my creativity just
22:43
went like, and I'm like, Yeah, because I can't know everything.
22:47
I have no idea what's coming down the pike. I don't even know
22:50
what I'm capable of. So will you talk about that a little bit?
22:54
Unknown: Yes, I'd love to. So let's go back now for
22:57
everything. You started this entire conversation talking
22:59
about the secret, yeah, and I love that you said it that way,
23:02
because I know that the universe is not Uber Eats, yeah, we know
23:06
that's right. But what, what it did was, at the time, we were in
23:11
a if you think about when it came out in 22,006 this is a
23:15
couple years before the big, crazy bank that, you know, the
23:19
whole, the shemazzle, yeah, the collapse, financial collapse.
23:24
And we were, since the 90s, we were very much in an
23:28
acquisitional mindset, right? Go get something. I'm going to go
23:31
get something. I'm going to, I'm going to make this thing happen.
23:34
Hustle, hustle, hustle. So it made sense that the people that
23:37
when they read that book, that's where they were coming from.
23:40
Anyway, I can see that and I can have it. So like you said, I'm
23:44
going to, I'm going to put my order in a Duncan's and wait for
23:47
it to show up, right? And, you know, like your Maserati, and I
23:50
love that. I can't do your accent, but it's so great. I
23:52
could listen to you talk all day. Anyway, so, and I got a
23:55
Canadian one, so whatever. So what happens is, is that you
24:00
have to unlearn that. Yes, um, right, you have, because that's
24:04
about control. That's not about co creation, right? That that
24:08
experience is is looking you are grabbing certainty and control.
24:12
That's what you want. You want to know that you can get what
24:16
you want right, and what you want is going to be that thing.
24:20
Now, definitely some, you know, things are easy to, quote,
24:23
unquote, get if you have no attachment to them and they're
24:25
just a thing. I always get a parking space. I always find the
24:28
thing in the store that I'm like, I just go, bang, put it
24:31
out there. I'm going to just go with my little nose. If it's
24:33
meant to be, be there. If it's not there, I don't give a shit.
24:35
Off I go. But the but when you look at this as a tool to co
24:40
create reality, you have to learn something new, and that is
24:45
what I have learned. Like I learned how to do all this stuff
24:48
40 years ago, when I got clean and sober, I went to Unity
24:51
Church, right? I did the Course in Miracles. I did a whole
24:54
shemazzle, right? And actually, I think Mary Ann had just done
24:57
her book a return to love, because I got sober. And I
24:59
think.
25:01
Karen Kenney: 891, it came out. 9192
25:05
Unknown: Yes, I got sober in 1986 so she was writing it Yes,
25:08
but it was like, okay, so I went to Unity. I got I learned all
25:12
this stuff about treasure maps and whatever, and they were
25:15
talking about alignment, right, but they didn't really explain
25:18
it that good. I still was like, I want that. Go, get it right. I
25:21
want it. I want it. I want it. I want it right. And so what? What
25:26
I learned, I've done over 40 of these vision boards, for
25:29
example. But what I learned, I kept challenging it. What's
25:33
missing here? What is missing if I look back on every because I
25:38
got literally every single thing that I put on the boards, the
25:41
things that were right for me came to came to be, but they
25:45
weren't always. 90% of the time were not anything the way I
25:48
thought they were going to be okay.
25:49
Karen Kenney: I'm going to be rude and interrupt because I
25:51
remember you told the story about your sweetie, how, like,
25:54
he was the total opposite of, like, what you would normally,
25:57
you know, like desire or whatever. Yeah.
26:00
Unknown: So exactly, so that, but, but here's the thing, when
26:04
I tracked it, everything happened through
26:07
synchronicities. It didn't happen because Collette made it
26:09
happen. It didn't happen because I said, I want it now give it to
26:13
me. It happened because I became the person that could have the
26:16
thing that I said I wanted, and thank God I didn't get, like,
26:19
the record deal that I wanted so badly for 20 years when it came,
26:23
it would have destroyed me had I got this before, because the
26:26
music business ate me up and shoot like chewed me up and spit
26:29
me out. Yes, right? I mean, the whole thing, that's all I
26:32
wanted, was to be a singer songwriter, and I had a career
26:35
and stuff. And the career, the all the feelings that I wanted
26:38
that career to give me showed up in this weirdo career that I
26:41
only want. I used to tell people I don't really do this. I'm
26:44
really a singer. Don't come back next year. I don't do this,
26:47
right? Like, I don't really talk to dead people. Oh no. Like, I'm
26:51
just really good at picking out information and stuff. And
26:53
they're like, Well, I don't know, you know, I was like, No.
26:57
And the universe like, hello, see this over there? This is
27:00
kind of good, but no, anyway, so I'll tell you. So what I learned
27:06
was every single thing that I thought I believed that the like
27:11
the record deal, the things that I wanted were going to give me,
27:14
I got in a different way, in a form that was right for me, not
27:18
only right for me, it was 10 times better. I got a life
27:21
bigger than my wildest dreams. And guess what? I still do
27:24
music. I'm going to record on EP in two weeks. I love it. But you
27:31
know what? I mean, it's no longer my identity is no longer
27:36
dependent on that. So when people come to manifestation,
27:40
yeah, they, they, they have to let go the need for they have to
27:44
recognize the zone of synchronicity, which is what
27:46
that's called, by the way. And yes, the internal thing is the
27:50
limitations. But you know, in a vision board, when you put a
27:54
border, you act, you're doing it for a specific purpose, because
27:57
you're telling the universe you would like whatever you place
28:01
inside that border to come into form, because manifestation is
28:05
to call into ordinary reality, from non ordinary reality into
28:09
visibility, from invisibility. You want to see it materialize
28:12
so but you're right. That's a limitation. I don't know what I
28:16
could have beyond what my imagination.
28:18
Karen Kenney: Yes, that's how I meant it. That's how I mostly
28:21
meant it, is that, like my, my imagination is like this, right,
28:25
which is also a lot of that comes from your cultural, your
28:29
upbringing, your environment as a child, right? Like, if you, if
28:33
you don't think, right, I'm worthy of more than this, or
28:37
whatever your dreams will be. And I'm not saying everybody has
28:40
to have a wicked, big dream. But my point was, like, just with
28:44
that boundary, what I loved you called it, what the field of
28:47
synchronicity around it. And the zone of zone of synchronicity
28:51
like that is where the field, yeah, that, right, that, right.
28:55
Some people call it the quantum field, right? But that, to me,
28:58
is like, the divine intelligence is playground, and I'm like
29:02
that. I don't want to limit that. So that, to me, was that
29:05
missing piece that you were talking about,
29:07
Unknown: but also the embodiment practice, because we stay in our
29:11
heads all the time, like most division, most talk, most
29:15
teachers teach manifestation from this level,
29:18
Karen Kenney: 100% she's pointing at her head. You guys,
29:20
the neck up,
29:21
Unknown: visualize, think about it, obsess about a stare at it.
29:25
Get really specific, right? And then very little is taught about
29:30
letting it go and not caring, okay? Because that's really
29:32
needed and but that's why a lot of people think it doesn't work.
29:36
But the truth is, you don't manifest what you want. You
29:38
manifest what you are. And some
29:41
Karen Kenney: Okay, Collette, hold on. I want them to hear
29:44
that very, very clearly. Will you say that line one more time,
29:49
please? For the people, I'm not first person to say this. I
29:51
know, I know,
29:53
Unknown: but actually, I heard it first from Wayne Dyer. You
29:55
don't manifest what you want. Yes, manifest what you are. And
30:00
what that means is that your energy, the rehearsal state that
30:05
you are in, where you are constantly thinking about
30:07
things, the things that you rehearse over and over again,
30:10
your beliefs, your that's why it's so dangerous. Like, get off
30:14
social media. Get off the news. Like, don't let that decide for
30:18
you, your your narrative, right? But whatever narrative that you
30:21
keep telling over and over again is what's going to come to you,
30:24
because that's the frequency that you're sending out. You're
30:28
broadcasting, and then the field responds it. It responds back.
30:34
It always is responding to us. 24/7, you want something
30:39
different outside. You got to change the inside.
30:41
Karen Kenney: Okay? Perfect. Two things I want to, I want to do
30:44
so that the science equivalent of that is Rick Hansen, who
30:47
always says, neurons that fire together, wire together, right?
30:52
So if we're constantly, like, focusing on what we don't want,
30:56
it's like when you're a kid, right? And in the car and you're
30:59
playing that, like, all of a sudden, like, you don't notice
31:02
any of the little Volkswagens until somebody yells, punch
31:05
buggy, right? What you're looking for, that's all you see,
31:08
is like, punch buggy, punch buggy, punch buggy. But
31:10
sometimes, when you're focusing on what you don't want, your
31:12
fear, your doubt, your cynicism, whatever you know, it's
31:17
important that we, you know, check ourselves, because of that
31:19
negativity bias in the brain to be looking for the good, the
31:23
beautiful and the holy. You know what I mean? Sometimes it's
31:25
like,
31:26
Unknown: it's harder, and it's harder because of the way we're
31:28
built. Yeah, right. We are built. The negativity bias
31:32
allows us to stay alive, right? So when we're on patrol looking
31:35
for potential threats, it's because we're trying to survive,
31:38
but we don't. We can't be intuitive, by the way, when
31:41
we're like that, we're in the instinct for survival. Intuition
31:43
depends on our curiosity, and seriously, really, really spot
31:48
on. Intuition comes with a regulated nervous system when
31:53
you just deliver, oh, hey boo, and you're curious. You can't be
31:56
curious when you're looking for something that there's a knife
31:59
around the it's like, where's that knife? Not like, Oh, I
32:02
wonder what's there exactly?
32:04
Karen Kenney: Well, the other my second one, my number two was
32:07
because you said the field, and when you just dive into that a
32:10
little bit, for people who might not know what what you're
32:12
talking about,
32:13
Unknown: okay, so I'm going to talk about it in different
32:16
language, right? So, so if you, if you look at we are part of a
32:22
quantum field, so let's go to quantum science, which means
32:26
we're not separate from each other. It's very hard to imagine
32:28
that, because I see you and your pink sweater over there, and you
32:31
see me and my green sweater over here, and I'm not there and
32:34
you're not here, and therefore we're separate, right? That's
32:36
like we are built also kind of weird. I don't understand why
32:39
they built us like this, but whatever is that we can't see,
32:43
that we're not that our connections, we can't really see
32:45
that. So not only that, we've all been raised to see
32:50
everything is separate, right, including consciousness, but if
32:54
you go to the quantum field and you see that literally
32:57
everything is connected all the time. So let's take the word
33:00
quantum out of it, because then we get all too weird about,
33:03
like, what is quantum science? But how about just looking at
33:06
and Lynn McTaggart is the perfect author you guys to read.
33:11
She has a book called The intention experiment and a book
33:14
called the field, and she's a science researcher. Fabulous
33:18
books. It's like you're going on a mystery adventure, and you
33:21
start to realize that there is a proven field of connection that
33:26
that exists in the world between all biological that we can tell
33:32
even the grass is sentient. It feels us and me can play music
33:36
and all kinds of weird shit that you go like, I don't understand
33:38
that, but you just have to just go with me on this. Yes. So the
33:42
invisible world, just because we can't see it doesn't mean it's
33:47
not there.
33:48
Karen Kenney: Double Amen, hands, yes, I'm with you, right?
33:51
Yep.
33:52
Unknown: So if we can imagine it, we can we can bump into it
33:57
pretty easy, because part of our brain's job, the reticular
34:01
activating system of the brain, is to guide our eyes to what we
34:07
have rehearsed as true. It's a way, it's a it's a feedback
34:10
system to say, Okay, well, you believe all the fear that we had
34:14
like it's a bouncer at a party. It'll only let in the fear
34:17
people because and then it goes, see over there more reasons to
34:20
be afraid. Bring them into the party. But now, when you start
34:22
to rehearse gratitude, which is what we talk about in the book,
34:25
and you have to make a discipline of doing that for
34:28
nothing, no other reason, just to be in that state of being,
34:31
all of a sudden, he kicks everybody out of the party and
34:34
goes like, okay, all you grateful people, you know,
34:36
great, grateful experiences. Come on in, and I'm going to
34:39
show you. I'm gonna light up the runways. You got to go there.
34:43
You would have gone over there, but now you're in this you're in
34:46
this frequency. We're showing you all this because the world
34:49
has everything. The world does not just have what we are being
34:52
fed on media, like we're being fed garbage, food.
35:00
Karen Kenney: Okay, like this world, table scraps. Man, table
35:02
scraps.
35:03
Unknown: Yeah, not even, yeah, not even, and. And for a reason,
35:07
it's like, if you keep a population afraid and divide it
35:11
easy to easy
35:12
Karen Kenney: to control us, so don't
35:15
Unknown: do that. The thing is, it's like, okay, fine, I'm not.
35:17
I'm powerless to change any of that. But this and that can both
35:21
be true. I can be an absolute immense gratitude while all that
35:24
shit is going on, and I can still see the runway of where I
35:28
need to go for the miracle. The miracles are endless, and they
35:31
are there. They are always there. We have to become that,
35:36
that person who is, I always say to myself, who would I need to
35:41
be, to have that, to have that experience I want, right, like I
35:45
would need to be. Would I need to be different at all? Would I
35:49
need to be fearless? Would I need to be so then it's like
35:51
acting. It's like, okay, who would, who would Collette be in
35:53
those shoes? Yes, you know? Oh, sorry,
35:56
Karen Kenney: go ahead. No. Robert dramas, Tagore, he says
35:59
this great quote that I share with my clients, and he says,
36:02
everything that belongs to you, everything that is yours, will
36:06
come to you if you create the capacity to receive it correct
36:11
any right. Does that make sense? So like, what it's vibe like?
36:14
And what you're saying is, like, who would I have to be in order
36:18
to whether you want to call it, attract or relate to or that
36:23
same energetic field or vibe that it will happen. And so
36:27
often we're looking from that place of lack or fear or
36:31
whatever, that's going to fix me, that thing, yes, I'm broken.
36:35
We have that idea, quote, unquote, we're broken. This
36:37
thing is going to fix me. I need this to be whole, happy,
36:41
healthy, healed, holy, whatever the thing is. And it's like, we
36:44
forget, and if we can bring ourselves into it, and that's
36:46
why I love it. But, like, I love all of it, but I think the thing
36:50
I love most is that it's fun and flowing, and it's funny, it's
36:57
wicked fun and like, so on that note, and this might be a little
37:01
weird. I've never done this on a podcast before, but people are,
37:06
like, loving the book, and so I went to like, Amazon, like, I
37:10
want to check out some of these reviews, and I'm gonna
37:12
Unknown: read I never read them. I know very wicked out because I
37:16
don't read them.
37:17
Karen Kenney: I know I'm gonna read you a good one, because
37:19
you're getting a fantastic review. But why I'm also reading
37:22
it is it kind of breaks down the book a little bit. So it's not
37:25
too long, but just hear it. Yeah, this person said, If you
37:29
love creative outlets and are interested in manifestation, in
37:32
the power of the mind, Colette Baron reads book The Art of
37:35
manifesting is right up your alley. It's not just another
37:38
manifestation book. It introduces the this thing called
37:42
the out of manifesting method, the am method, which is
37:46
basically, and you can correct any of this if this person get
37:49
it wrong, but which is basically a meditative Drawing Practice.
37:52
The whole idea is that you use intentional, simple drawings
37:56
like circles and flowy lines as a tool to literally rewire your
38:00
brain and create the reality you want. It blends creativity some
38:05
all my favorite things right here. It blends creativity and
38:08
spirituality with an interesting bit of neuroscience explaining
38:12
how you can use this simple act to carve out new neural pathways
38:17
break old patterns and align your intentions with the
38:20
universe. Wow, I know. Well, listen, this is great. This
38:23
person, I love them, and includes a gentle seven week
38:27
guide that walks you through the seven steps of manifestation
38:31
using guided drawings, meditation and journaling. It
38:35
reminds me, in some ways, of Julia Cameron's, you know, the
38:38
honest way, and that you don't, I know, it says and that you
38:43
don't need to be an artist to enjoy the benefits of using
38:47
these techniques. All you need is a pen and paper. If you're
38:51
looking for a peaceful, joyful and deeply creative way to
38:55
manifest change and feel more like the shaper of your destiny,
38:59
you would absolutely love this.
39:01
Unknown: Wow, they should get 10 free books. Here's what's been
39:09
happening. So okay, so I'm really glad that you're a total
39:13
nerd, too. So, you know, I just been told, before I got on the
39:16
show, that by somebody else, that this book might be too
39:18
smart. And I'm like, Oh, really, no. Anyway, yeah, good, thanks.
39:21
Okay, so then I'm like, I don't write for everybody, but
39:24
whatever, here we go. So when the book came out, you know,
39:30
this is, people don't expect me to write a book on art. They
39:33
would expect me to write about oracles or something like that.
39:36
But this is really my jam, and I've been obsessed with this for
39:39
two years before I got a book deal on it, because I started, I
39:42
just started teaching people this thing. Then I hooked up
39:45
with Anna Denning, and we added two components that weren't
39:48
there before, which was the Reiki in the beginning, like the
39:50
Yeah, the hands, how you doesn't that feel amazing anyway? So,
39:56
and then the two of us, because I knew I needed a partner, and
39:58
she just showed up. We both met. Manifested the other one anyhow.
40:01
So people started having parties. My girlfriend in LA
40:05
called me, and she goes, I need a box of books. I'm having a I'm
40:09
having a party. I'm inviting everybody over. And so they all
40:13
did it, and then, and then one of the women at the party. So
40:16
there were, like 15 of them. She had a brunch, was hosting a
40:19
brunch. She bought the books and did it at brunch. And what they
40:23
did was use seed paper. So seed paper, these pieces of paper
40:28
that have wild flowers, yes, squished in it. And so what
40:33
they're going to do is paint. Is they're going to draw their, you
40:36
know, their desire. Like, really, the desired outcome is
40:39
feelings. Like, it's really about how do you want to feel.
40:41
You can put something on there, like money or whatever you want,
40:44
right? But the end of the day, it's how do you want to feel,
40:46
and what is it that you're trying to express through you?
40:49
Right? Yeah. Anyway, so they're all planting their things in
40:52
these little planters. So, but it's taken off as a party thing
40:56
with women, mostly women. I don't know any guys that are
40:59
doing it. Well, no, that's not true. I have two men come to an
41:02
event in Spain, and they do a drawing with us. And my husband
41:06
loves doing this to him and his friend, but it's mostly women
41:09
that come. But anyhow, so they, it's the, it's the coming
41:12
together with friends, yes, and sitting at the table talking
41:16
about, well,
41:17
Karen Kenney: I had my best friend. I wrote to my best
41:19
friend. I was like, Katie, you got to hop on this. You know,
41:23
the one in January about the art of benefit, the new way of,
41:26
like, Vision boarding. I said, hop on this. I go, what did you
41:28
think? She's like, I loved it. And I was like, I mean, I'm
41:33
this. I'm like, I pay attention, working closely. So I'm like, Oh
41:36
yeah, I could figure out the steps. I got the book, whatever.
41:39
But then I saw that you and Anna are actually doing a teacher
41:42
training on this. Yes, our first teacher training. I'm like, I
41:45
don't know, maybe I want to do that. That sounds wicked.
41:49
Unknown: Well, you can come to the one in June. Hay House is
41:51
running the June one. This was our beta group. So we ended up,
41:55
we thought we were going to get 20 teachers. We had 150
41:59
applicants. Wow. We didn't even tell anybody. We just sort of
42:02
announced it under the, you know, well, you know, we talked
42:04
about it anyway. So we ended up taking just under 50. And the
42:09
idea is that we, you know, we want people to become
42:11
ambassadors, but we get really nerdy in that one like every
42:15
single step we go into the background, where it's shown up
42:18
in different cultures, why this is part of us and why it
42:21
actually works, and and then we just do a simple like, here's
42:25
how you would run a group, you know, like, and then make sure
42:27
everybody in the group gets a book. But we're having so much
42:30
fun too. Yeah? Like, yeah. You know, learn. If you become a
42:36
teacher, it's really about the why we why we train you is so
42:40
you understand what you're doing. It doesn't really go
42:43
through all that really deeper layers that in the book at all,
42:48
like we have nerd alerts in the book. Hey, nerd alert. This is
42:52
what neuroscience says and but you go really and we were even
42:56
amazed ourselves, like we still can't get over it. Me and her
43:00
we're, like, we freaking manifested this. Wow.
43:03
Karen Kenney: I think it's so cool that actually, you know,
43:06
that the two of you, like, came together, you know, because
43:08
you're both artists in your own way. Yeah, it's incredible. And
43:13
one of the things I also loved about the seven steps is, like,
43:17
it's not passive, like you have like, number four, activate your
43:20
intention. Number six, create an action plan. And then seven,
43:24
like, surrender to the universe, like you got to let go of
43:27
whatever you think the thing is, right. So I love the seven
43:30
steps. I think it's such a smart and fun and if you're nerdy, and
43:35
you can geek out on some of the things and understand like, and
43:38
I think all of us like, when you think back to where we were
43:40
kids, when you're just on the phone and you would just doodle,
43:45
or you'd be fine, you're imagining, that's that's just
43:49
your daydreaming and your imagination, which is literally
43:52
when you're shifting out of that like beta state, and you're
43:56
dropping into like alpha and theta, where the Imagination is
43:59
and everything becomes possible, and to be guided in such a
44:04
simple and fun way, like I'm saying, like, I was just, like,
44:07
even when I was just doodling on the anxiety one, I'm like, Oh,
44:10
this would be so great for my clients who have anxiety. It's
44:13
just such a little thing, you know, like to do. And I just, I
44:17
just think it's so fantastic. And I love that. It's, oh,
44:21
sorry, were you gonna say something?
44:22
Unknown: No, no. It's like, well, I of course always want to
44:26
say something. You and I are the same, like, we just want to
44:28
talk. No, but it's, I think what you nailed was the fact that it
44:33
is fun and it enables you to get out of that. It's a stress
44:39
response. And I think everybody right now. I don't care what you
44:43
Yes, you are. All of us have been under sustained uncertainty
44:47
for such a long time now, and the body has not been created to
44:50
experience dysregulation that way all the time. And then now
44:54
it becomes, if you look at the internet like, I don't have
44:57
Tiktok, I think it's an assaulting thing, so I don't
44:59
have. Of it, but I know, apparently I'm on it, but my
45:03
team has me on there, yeah, but it's like, I do know that other
45:06
on if I look at Facebook or Instagram where I am, I'll see
45:09
ads for you know, you know, like, shred and and regulate
45:13
your system. So that becomes a chore. Like, we don't need more
45:18
like work. We need flow, like right now. We need a very easy,
45:24
feminine way to get get regulated. That's fun, and we
45:28
can let go, and we don't have all these rules and, you know,
45:32
and and we we can just make marks. And when we make those
45:35
marks with intention, you know, then synchronicity. And then the
45:40
whole point of this entire exercise is that you start to
45:43
notice that the universe responds to you, and if nothing
45:47
else, it answers you in ways like my favorite story is. So
45:52
this was the first book I've ever written. I've written eight
45:54
books and 19 times, and I never, ever in a million years,
45:57
expected in New York Times bestseller, nor really wanted
46:00
one, because I just didn't think that was my thing, right? But
46:03
this is the first time I thought, yeah, this book could
46:05
do that one day. So I write, do a little drawing, and then I
46:09
show my head of my brand at Hay House. And I said, you know, I
46:12
think I am going to, because I've been saying, Oh, I don't
46:15
care about that. I'm going, you know, it would be nice. I think
46:17
it would be really cool if I got one. So I did a little New York
46:20
Times drawing in my drawing and I and then I showed her, and we
46:23
had a laugh. You had figured, in a couple years, maybe I don't
46:26
know, right? And then two hours later, my Beth writes me, and it
46:31
says, The New York Times would like to invite you to teach
46:34
their staff.
46:35
Karen Kenney: I remember you telling this story. Keep going.
46:39
It's so good, right? That's teach
46:40
Unknown: our staff, like in their healthy times program. I
46:43
mean, the motive behind this was New York Times and reach more
46:47
people. It right that because that's what I thought would
46:49
happen if I got a New York Times bestseller. That means lots of
46:52
more people would see the book. But the truth is, I really
46:55
wanted New York Times, and I wanted more people. Well,
46:57
there's probably 15 people going to be there, and it's the New
47:01
York Times, I got exactly what I asked for, right? And I'm like,
47:04
oh. And I think the only reason it happened is because the
47:07
universe said you need a good story to tell people. And that
47:10
is the perfect example of letting go the attachment to the
47:13
form and and seeing all of it as an adventure. Like, wow. Like,
47:18
surprise me. I was very surprised.
47:21
Karen Kenney: Yeah, I love that. I mean, these are some of your
47:23
words that you that went on this, on this drawing, on this
47:27
one, where I wrote some of the things you did. You wrote
47:29
surprise me. Thank you. Wow, wow, wow. Divine Will big
47:33
surprise. Spirit has. Spirit have a plan. It's like spirit
47:36
has a plan. Gratitude, love, reciprocity, the zone of
47:40
synchronicity. Gratitude bubbles, like all of it, and
47:43
it's like it's so what I love so much about the process too, is
47:49
whenever you're doing the little gratitude bubbles and you're
47:51
just training your brain, you know, Meister Eckhart says, if
47:55
the only prayer you ever say in your life is thank you, it will
47:57
be enough. Yeah, when you're just saying thank you, thank
48:00
you. Thank you. With those little bubbles, thank you, thank
48:03
you, you literally start to feel a shift inside of you. Yeah,
48:06
it's incredibly it's, I mean, it's practical, it's powerful,
48:11
it's super duper fun. You just get out your favorite Mac is
48:14
your favorite paper, it is. It's like being a little kid again. I
48:17
mean, we're circling back to where we started, but it's
48:20
intentional and but what I love about it is it's intentional
48:25
without the tight grip, exactly no but it's open. I always say,
48:30
like, love doesn't happen in this state. I'm clenching my
48:32
fist, you guys. It happens like
48:35
Unknown: open open handed, and we did it when Anna and I got
48:39
together. Like Anna came from. She's also an esthetic coach.
48:43
And she's, she used to teach a Russian form of line art. She
48:48
teaches lots of different line arts, right? But, and I had kind
48:51
of dabbled and looked to see if I like it, and I didn't like it
48:54
because it was too many rules, because it was too heavy, yeah.
48:56
And then I thought, then I loved Zentangle that was very mindful.
48:59
It was its own thing. And then, you know, like, all their own
49:02
things. There's noodle No, not
49:03
Karen Kenney: noodles, neurography, yeah, there's neuro
49:07
Unknown: doodles, neurographica. And so, you know, there's lots
49:11
of different types of these intentional art processes. And
49:14
so when she and I got together, I said to her, I said, what I
49:17
really want is something where people don't feel that, that
49:24
news, that that of perfectionism, that they could
49:28
feel looser and feel freer and more liberated and more unique
49:33
to them, right? That it was something that, like, there's a
49:36
lot in the you're not allowed to put glitter. I If you want to
49:38
throw glitter all over your Go right ahead. You know what I
49:41
mean? It's like there are no rules, like, oh, I wanted no
49:44
rules, because I hate rules, but there has to be containers. So
49:47
our steps were the container that that invited in the
49:52
experience. Right then those steps, I swear to God, we
49:56
literally both just prayed her and I, like, I. Watched a video
50:00
with her. This happened, so I joined her membership, and I
50:04
didn't like the the rule based stuff, but she had other things
50:08
that was very not rule based. She was like, doing all kinds of
50:11
really cool things. So I just joined her membership, and one
50:13
day there was a video of her talking about doing a drawing,
50:17
about her work and bringing in. I don't know who's coming in,
50:21
but I feel someone is coming. I don't know how it's going to
50:25
expand my work. Then I'm looking at it going, it's, it's, and it
50:31
turned out she had my cards. She didn't look at who signed up to
50:36
her, what her thing, right? So she didn't know I was in there.
50:38
And i fall i Anyway, I wrote her and I said, like, how can we
50:41
have a call? Like, my name is Colin parmi. She goes, What's
50:44
your and she has, she had a stack of my oracle cards and
50:48
everything. And I just said, this is what I feel. And I know
50:50
this sounds crazy, but I've been obsessed with this, this, I've
50:54
made my own thing and but I don't think it's finished. And,
50:58
you know, want to come in and then her and I both were doing
51:01
two things that were not in the present, the way the present
51:05
state of what I was teaching. I was like, Oh, my God, this is
51:08
it. And then Hay House offered us, me, well, offered me the
51:11
book deal, and I brought her in, yeah, yeah.
51:14
Karen Kenney: It's so fantastic. And that's what I'm saying. It's
51:16
like, you can't make this shit up. Like, it's like, you just
51:19
don't. And I talk about it all the time, I'll say, Oh, the
51:21
assignment is alignment. And, you know, I was raised by like,
51:25
My nana. Well, I have like, a step side of the family. I'm
51:28
not, apparently, not an Italian kid or Portuguese kid, but I'm
51:31
an Irish kid who was also raised in family. You know, with
51:34
Italian Portuguese my little Nana was like, I call her like a
51:38
little Italian witch. And she used to, she used to do, like,
51:41
the malookies. And she taught me, like, how did you know she
51:43
would do the evil and like, yeah, exactly, evil eye,
51:47
exactly. And like, she taught me how to, like, bless houses and
51:50
do these little things. So I grew up in a family that grew up
51:53
knowing psychics, friends with these people who had these
51:57
gifts, and so it was very normalized for me, but I know
51:59
for a lot of people, it's like, Ooh, what's this? Like, woo,
52:02
woo, stuff. And I just think there's something boo poo, the
52:06
woo, woo. I always say what I say, I go, it's not woo, woo.
52:10
It's true, true. That's what I always say, yeah. But I just
52:13
love that, that you're bringing this to, like, a wider audience,
52:16
in a way that I think is, yeah, yeah. You know what it is, it's
52:21
smart, but, you know, smarty pants can also be super fun. You
52:24
know what? I mean? It doesn't have to be like, terrible or
52:27
wicked hot, but I
52:28
Unknown: know it's also sorry. I think it's also, you know,
52:32
people tend to be superstitious about this because of their
52:35
religious upbringing. Yeah, and like, I have two, well, one
52:39
woman who works for me, who runs my membership is a Bible study
52:42
teacher, like, very Christian, like, you can make Jesus your
52:45
manifesting partner if you want. Like, it's like, that's the
52:48
other thing. It's like, if you believe, if you are going to
52:51
hold space and believe that, that this is true for you, then
52:56
this is going to show up for you. I mean, that's how I
52:59
learned this in Unity Church, right? And it's non
53:02
denominational. And I'm, I mean, I think if I wasn't this, I
53:05
would have been an interfaith minister, because I was really
53:08
fascinated with that. But this universe had better plans. Yes,
53:12
I'm so interested in what, what is it that, because there is a
53:15
mystical quality to Islam, to to Judaism, to Christianity.
53:21
There's all. Every single faith construct I believe you too, has
53:27
that more gnostic, you know, you know, personal connection. Right
53:32
from the beginning of time, we've been trying to figure out
53:35
our relationship to that which is unknowable. That's right,
53:38
right? The ineffability of God. Yes, I don't have a problem with
53:42
that word me, right? Yeah. So it's like, for me, it's God. You
53:45
know, I'm like, I surrender my will in my life over the care of
53:48
God as I understand God, and then I ask God to use me as thou
53:51
wilt. And I used to go use me as thou wilt. PS, I want a record
53:54
deal, but that's yes. I have ideas. In case you're curious,
53:58
yeah, in case you're too busy, I have a list,
54:02
Karen Kenney: yes, in case you want to consult with me. Yeah,
54:05
hey, I have some ideas. You know what? I mean? Yeah, I agree with
54:09
everything you're saying,
54:11
Unknown: and I liked something you said earlier. I don't think
54:14
everybody needs a big, giant dream, right? What the hell is a
54:19
big, giant dream anyway, right? It's, it's important that you
54:22
have your dream. It's important that, because, guess what? Like
54:26
I got here from years and years and years. I used to charge $20
54:30
an hour for my readings. I thought that was I moved it to
54:34
25 and I thought I was going to throw up because I thought that
54:36
was too much, right? Like I came from, I mean, I didn't. I came
54:40
from privilege prior to that, but then we lost everything, and
54:44
I was I had poverty experiences too and like but for me, it was
54:48
never about that. It was about feeling that I had my life had
54:51
meaning, and that's really what all of us want. We want a life
54:55
that's got meaning. We want love in our lives. We want to be in
54:59
Karen Kenney: awe and. And gratitude, wonder and create and
55:01
wonder.
55:02
Unknown: Yeah, that's what I want to boil it down to. And I
55:05
because I think we all got very complicated look at about right
55:10
yeah, pretty fucked up right now.
55:13
Karen Kenney: Let's just be the world is so fucked up right now.
55:16
And which leads me back to something that you said, which I
55:19
want to reiterate for people, and then I know I gotta let you
55:21
go because you have a hot stop. But yeah, thanks. Yeah, you're
55:24
welcome. Keeping up track of the time of yeah, if you see my eyes
55:26
looking up, that's what I'm looking at. But when you are in
55:30
a constant state of when the sympathetic nervous system right
55:33
that fight and flight, I'm not teaching you, I'm just I'm
55:35
saying this for the listeners, when you're in that constant
55:38
fight or flight, where you're feeling triggered or activated
55:41
or in fear or whatever, like something that you said, which
55:44
is like, that's why you don't remember to do your EFT tapping
55:48
and your 478, breath, and your havening and your stroking,
55:52
right? Like all the tools, where the hell did you go? All the
55:57
tools go out the window when you're when you're in that fear
56:00
state. And one of the great things about this work is it
56:03
literally turns on parasympathetic nervous system.
56:06
It literally invites in the relaxation response without
56:10
having to overthink it. It's like literally pick up a pen,
56:13
pick up some paper, start to make the marks, and you
56:17
literally just feel a shift inside of you. And for those of
56:20
you who are listening, Colette and Anna are actually doing a
56:25
live, immersive virtual experience on sun, Saturday,
56:29
March 7, you can sign up for that. All her links will be in
56:33
the show notes. You guys, you'll be able to find everything. But
56:36
before I let you go, I just want to ask you, is there anything I
56:39
didn't ask you that you wish I had anything I didn't bring up
56:42
that you wish we had talked about.
56:43
Unknown: I just think you're awesome. And I never come in
56:46
here thinking that. I just believe that whatever comes out
56:49
of our mouths is exactly what needed to come out. Yeah, me
56:52
too.
56:52
Karen Kenney: I trust. I trust. Okay, I just wanted to make sure
56:57
you were amazing. I loved you. Thank you, sweetheart. I have
57:00
coffee with you. I know, I know I'll have to find each other
57:04
somehow. Look, our paths will cross in real life. I believe
57:08
that. I believe that. But so you guys look at you. Got to get
57:11
this book. I know so many of you already love all of her tarot
57:14
cards, like the animal spirit ones. Yep, her book. Go get this
57:18
sucker. We're both holding it up at the same time. Go get this
57:21
second. It's so fantastic. Sign up for the Saturday March 7 if
57:26
you want to experience this yourself, so you can have your
57:29
own personal experience and see what I'm talking about. And it
57:32
is. And as a yoga teacher, since like 1999 the embodied
57:37
experience is what we're really looking for. And I'm telling
57:41
you, if you, if you turn yourself over to the process, I
57:44
believe that you, you will have a shift, and you will experience
57:47
what we're talking about. It's not just like, like, just give
57:49
it a try. Is all I'm saying. It's so cool. And is there your
57:53
favorite way to have people contact you or connect with you
57:58
Unknown: on Instagram, Facebook and Instagram and Facebook don't
58:03
go to Tiktok. I mean, it's there, but whatever. I don't
58:06
understand it. But yeah, Instagram, Facebook, my website,
58:10
actually, if you sign into my newsletter, you get a bunch of
58:13
free stuff there. And if you're interested, there's a free if
58:17
you want to do it before you come to the event March 7. But
58:20
if you go to Collette bear and read com forward slash book, if
58:24
you get the book, you just have to put in your receipt. And you
58:26
get a you get video stuff, you get all kinds of stuff that
58:29
would help you. And fun. And it is. It's fun. I'm glad you kept
58:33
saying it's
58:33
Karen Kenney: wicked fun. Well, it is wicked fun. Look at the
58:37
drawings, you know. And I will tell you this too, for those of
58:40
you who are listening, go to, if you go to wherever, you can buy
58:45
books online, right? I'm not going to say the name, but a lot
58:49
of the reviews, people are also submitting next to the reviews.
58:52
They're at work, and it's amazing. They are. I have a,
58:56
yeah, I have, like, four pictures on my desktop right
58:58
here. I was pulling them, and I have to look. Yeah, so the
59:01
reviews have been lovely, and people are putting incredible
59:04
pictures on there too. So you guys, if you want to check
59:06
Unknown: it out, I don't like to look, in case. I understand, you
59:10
know what I mean.
59:10
Karen Kenney: I understand people are weird. I am not
59:13
always nice. No, people are people can be kind of dicks
59:17
sometimes. You know what I'm saying. All right, so I gotta
59:19
let you Oh, my God, please, will you just introduce everybody?
59:23
Unknown: I want to say me and be Zoo. Would like to say bye, and
59:28
if you see us, if you can see us right now, this is my little
59:32
baby, and she's being called for supper. You want to get numb?
59:35
Numbs with daddy.
59:37
Karen Kenney: You guys, if you just saw the little creature
59:39
that she held in your hands. You know, I'm a mess right now. I'm
59:42
dying. I'm obsessed. Colette, thank you so much for being
59:46
here. I always end my show by saying, wherever you go, may you
59:50
leave the people and the animals and the place and the
59:52
environment better than how you found it. Wherever you go, may
59:55
you and your energy and your presence and your love be a
59:59
blessing.
1:00:00
Unknown: Bye. You are awesome. Hey.
1:00:04
Karen Kenney: Thanks so much for listening to the show. I really
1:00:07
love spending some time together. Now, if you dig the
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Bye. You.