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The DiCecco Daily: Biggest Eagles Storylines Headed Into OTAs · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome into this edition of the Checko Deli.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew de Checko here with your Eagles beat reporter for
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  Speaker 1: insidetheirds dot com. Hope everyone's enjoying their Memorial Day weekend.
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  Speaker 1: I understand the weather is suboptimal in the Delaware Valley
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  Speaker 1: and beyond, but hopefully you're able to take a few
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  Speaker 1: minutes and enjoy it or take a few moments to
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  Speaker 1: give thanks to those who gave the ultimate sacrifice, which
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  Speaker 1: is really the reason for this day. But today I
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  Speaker 1: want to speak a little bit about OTAs, specifically the
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  Speaker 1: storyline surrounding OTAs, And for those who need a reminder,
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  Speaker 1: OTAs run from May twenty sixth and twenty seventh, May
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  Speaker 1: twenty ninth, June first and second, and June fourth, So
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  Speaker 1: it's right around the corner and there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: very intriguing storylines going into it that I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: put on your radar. I'm sure it's on your radar already,
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  Speaker 1: but just add a little context to it. And first
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  Speaker 1: and foremost has to be the new offense and the
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  Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator. So for me, and there's not a
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  Speaker 1: lot that you're going to be able to realistically glean
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  Speaker 1: from an OTA setting or mandatory mini camp setting, training
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  Speaker 1: camp a little bit more so, but this is really
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  Speaker 1: about the onboarding process, the installation for Sean Mannion to
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  Speaker 1: get to know his personnel and the personnel to get
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  Speaker 1: familiar with Sean Mannion. And they've already done a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of that, but this is really where things start
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  Speaker 1: to ramp up. And so I'm looking to see the
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  Speaker 1: early iterations of the offense. What are we seeing, how
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  Speaker 1: are certain pieces being deployed, where the wide receivers are
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  Speaker 1: lining up because they have a logjam of players at
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  Speaker 1: that position, So I'll be looking at that. How quickly
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles are getting in and out of the huddle.
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  Speaker 1: Jalen hurts his decision making all those things. And you
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  Speaker 1: never want to make too much off of an OTA
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  Speaker 1: practice or a mandatory mini camp session and even to
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  Speaker 1: another to maybe a little bit of a lesser degree
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  Speaker 1: training camp, because what matters is what happens in the
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  Speaker 1: regular season. You try different things in these practice settings
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  Speaker 1: to see what your your group is familiar is comfortable with,
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  Speaker 1: and try to execute it. And it's a feeling out
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  Speaker 1: phase and you go back to the drawing board figure
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  Speaker 1: out what works what you want to incorporate and things
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  Speaker 1: like that, But you won't see me. I could always
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  Speaker 1: speak for me, you won't. I'll never be one to
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  Speaker 1: signal any kind of signs of caution or or I
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  Speaker 1: guess concern for one of these, you know, spring practice settings.
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  Speaker 1: It takes a while for these things to go. You
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  Speaker 1: have to understand what they're trying to get accomplished, and
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  Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a new it's a new system.
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  Speaker 1: It's just the overall something that they're going to have
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  Speaker 1: to really start to work through and there's going to
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  Speaker 1: be some bumps in the road here. But also, Sean Mannion,
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  Speaker 1: I want to see how the new offensive coordinator divi's
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  Speaker 1: his time because he oversaw the quarterbacks room in Green Bay,
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  Speaker 1: but now he'll have to stroll over to the wide
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  Speaker 1: receivers as they're working, take a look at what the
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  Speaker 1: tight end group is doing, the running backs and so
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  Speaker 1: on and so forth. So that's all part of the
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  Speaker 1: process that probably isn't taken into account all that much.
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  Speaker 1: How you're going to spend your time in practice where
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  Speaker 1: you're going to devote most of your time, and that's
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  Speaker 1: not going to be maybe it's wide receivers one day,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's running backs another day. If you're trying to
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  Speaker 1: really drive a point home or get a point across.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that's something that I'll be keeping
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  Speaker 1: an eye on. New offensive line coach Chris Cooper working
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  Speaker 1: with that group. We saw him a little bit during
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  Speaker 1: rookie mini camp, and we'll get to see him more
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  Speaker 1: in the coming weeks here. So he's replacing a legend.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have to belabor this point here, but all
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  Speaker 1: eyes are going to be on him. And he has
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  Speaker 1: an offensive line that, when healthy, is the best in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, or certainly among the best in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm most curious to see how he goes about
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  Speaker 1: the teaching element of his job. Certain things that you
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  Speaker 1: saw him implement in rookie mini camp. I want to
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  Speaker 1: see if there's sort of some some differences in how
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  Speaker 1: he wanted about or how he goes about coaching the
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  Speaker 1: group versus how Jeff stoutlind does. Is he a vocal coach,
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  Speaker 1: is he hands on And those are certain details that
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  Speaker 1: I'll be keeping an eye on, and I'll be keeping
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  Speaker 1: a very detailed notebook as I always do. The safety
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  Speaker 1: position This is something I've written about. I've talked quite
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  Speaker 1: a bit about this offseason. Going back to what vic
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  Speaker 1: Vangio said, he seemed to exhibit a lot of confidence
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  Speaker 1: in Mark Marcus Epps, the veteran player started forty nine games,
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  Speaker 1: and he mentioned that he was pleasantly surprised with how
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  Speaker 1: Marcus played, and then he also said that it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily because he was surprised him out of the blue,
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  Speaker 1: is because he was unfamiliar with the player, and so
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  Speaker 1: he is the odds on favorite to start right now
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  Speaker 1: we're in late May, but that's not to really be
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  Speaker 1: a surprise. But he did speak glowingly, and one thing
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  Speaker 1: you should know about Vic Vangos he doesn't offer hollow praise,
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  Speaker 1: so his words carry a lot of weight. And I
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  Speaker 1: go back to what he also said about Riek One,
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  Speaker 1: the new cornerback who the Eagles added in free agency.
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  Speaker 1: But speaking at about the safety position right now, Marcus
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  Speaker 1: EPs is the favorite to start alongside Drew mccoba. But
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  Speaker 1: Drew mccouba himself also comes with some questions because he
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  Speaker 1: always started eleven games last year had the fractured ankle,
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  Speaker 1: but he also had a couple injuries in training camp.
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  Speaker 1: I remember, I think it was a shoulder where he
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  Speaker 1: collided with wide receiver Danny Gray in training camp. I
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  Speaker 1: think he had a hamstring as well. I'd have to
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  Speaker 1: go back and check my notes. But he's one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and eighty six pounds and he plays the game very physically,
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  Speaker 1: throws his body around, so one would think that that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna over time lend itself to some bumps and bruises
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  Speaker 1: along the way. But he headlines this group, so I
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  Speaker 1: don't have a ton of questions about Drew mccooba. I
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  Speaker 1: thought later in the season he really started to look
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  Speaker 1: like a player who was becoming more and more comfortable
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  Speaker 1: within the defense, his assignment, his role in that defense,
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  Speaker 1: communication instincts. He was flying to the football with a
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  Speaker 1: purpose and more urgently. So a lot of times that
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  Speaker 1: comes with not having to think as much, and your
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  Speaker 1: natural ability is starting to take over. And it really
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't be a surprise because it is a very daunting
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  Speaker 1: position to play in this defense. And it looked like
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  Speaker 1: later on, when he was a little bit more settled in,
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  Speaker 1: he saw the version of Drew mccouba that we saw
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  Speaker 1: at Tech coming out of the draft that made him
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  Speaker 1: such a highly coveted prospect. Michael Carter the second. I'm
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  Speaker 1: fascinated to see him lining up at safety because the
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  Speaker 1: last time I saw him play safety was when he
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  Speaker 1: played sixty five snaps in the finale. But there's not
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  Speaker 1: a lot to go off of beyond that, and he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have prototypical size at and eighty five pounds, So
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious to see from a movement ability his knack
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  Speaker 1: for covering ground. Does that really reveal itself in training camp,
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  Speaker 1: because sometimes you can just see it right there's certain
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  Speaker 1: players or certain skill sets that you can see. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I get why they want to give this player a
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  Speaker 1: longer look here because of his coverage acumen, or because
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  Speaker 1: his instincts and his breaks on the football, whatever the
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  Speaker 1: case is. But just the sheer newness of Michael Carter
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  Speaker 1: being a safety as something I'll be keying in on.
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  Speaker 1: The Eagles obviously are putting him back there at safety,
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  Speaker 1: giving him a longer look here this offseason for a reason,
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  Speaker 1: and so that's certainly a player that I'll be keeping
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  Speaker 1: an eye on. Then you have other players like Andre
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  Speaker 1: sam who's a holdover. He's been with the Eagles for
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  Speaker 1: two seasons, now knows the defense, plays with an edge,
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  Speaker 1: is familiar with Joe Casper, Brandon Johnson's there. Brandon Johnson
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  Speaker 1: can also play nickel corner for you if need be.
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  Speaker 1: So you like that positional versatility. A young athletic player
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  Speaker 1: at twenty three years old that I think the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: like a little bit. Cole was Nesky, the seventh round safety,
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  Speaker 1: six three, two hundred and nineteen pounds. By all accounts,
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  Speaker 1: this is a sharp minded football player who grasps defenses
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  Speaker 1: pretty quickly and knows the finer intricacies and nuances of that.
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  Speaker 1: If he can gain enough ground early, I could foresee
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  Speaker 1: a path where he's able to kind of elbow his
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  Speaker 1: way into the conversation to perhaps carve out a larger role.
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  Speaker 1: You have some undrafted free agents and Kapina Gushicken, whom
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  Speaker 1: Vic Vangiel called gush The Eagles gave him two hundred
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  Speaker 1: and seventy five hundred in total guarantees, so that's nothing
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  Speaker 1: to sneeze at. They're obviously intrigued with him to some degree.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's probably destined for the practice squad, but
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  Speaker 1: you never know. But again, another small player at five nine,
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty nine pounds, but it was notable
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  Speaker 1: that Vic Pango called him gush. Then you have Maximus Pulley,
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  Speaker 1: another undrafted free agent. Ada Wafford started thirty four games
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  Speaker 1: there took back. I think he had three touchdowns five
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  Speaker 1: interceptions last season. So at five eleven two hundred pounds,
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  Speaker 1: is he a player who can factor into the mix
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  Speaker 1: here a little bit? And yeah, I mean there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of names, but there's not a lot of certainty.
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  Speaker 1: And right now it should be of no surprise that
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  Speaker 1: Marcus EPs is leading the charge. But I'll be keeping
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  Speaker 1: an eye on who's lining up opposite mccooba. Are they rotating?
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  Speaker 1: Is it Marcus EPs and Michael Carter or is Cole
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  Speaker 1: Wiznski getting some opportunities there? Who's running with the second
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  Speaker 1: team and things like that that I always make sure
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  Speaker 1: to note in my observations. And yes, the AJ Brown looming,
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  Speaker 1: you know the news that just seems to be forever
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  Speaker 1: looming this offseason. Well, we're close to June first, and
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  Speaker 1: and so for those of you who are I guess
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  Speaker 1: uh have just exceeded their bandwidth in discussing AJ Brown.
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  Speaker 1: I can't fault you. I'm right there with you, But
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  Speaker 1: it would make a lot of sense for him to
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  Speaker 1: be at OTAs this week if if he were in fact,
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  Speaker 1: you know, expected to be moved, which all you know,
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  Speaker 1: everything points to that right now that that really shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be a surprise. But so AJ Brown, everyone's going to
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  Speaker 1: be highlighting June first, maybe June second, and that is
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  Speaker 1: the expectation. But I mentioned A J. Brown here because
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  Speaker 1: you wouldn't expect to see him at a voluntary OTA. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Setting backup offensive lineman to me is something that I'll
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  Speaker 1: also be cluing in on because the starters are set,
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  Speaker 1: but you also want to be mindful of where they
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  Speaker 1: are in terms of their recovery, meaning Cam Jurgens who
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  Speaker 1: was awfully banged up last season, Landon Dickerson and Lane
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  Speaker 1: Johnson as well. How do they look if they are
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  Speaker 1: in fact there, how do they look and how are
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  Speaker 1: they moving and things of that nature. But for me specifically,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be keying in on the reserve offensive lineman because
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  Speaker 1: there's so much youth there. There's a lot of inexperience,
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  Speaker 1: but there's a lot of competition as well, So I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking at Drew Kendall. Drew Kendall was expected to step
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  Speaker 1: up and be the backup center this year, filling in
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  Speaker 1: for that Brett Toath type of role. Maybe he can
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  Speaker 1: give you some guard depth on game day as well
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  Speaker 1: in a pinch. And then you have other players like
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  Speaker 1: Mark hell Bell mam sized offensive lineman, third round pick.
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  Speaker 1: I still think he's a year away, but you want
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  Speaker 1: to see him on the practice field moving around and
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  Speaker 1: doing some of those things. Cameron Williams and Miles Hinton
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  Speaker 1: to twenty twenty five draftees. I'm a little higher on
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  Speaker 1: Cameron Williams than i am Miles Hinton, but just to
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  Speaker 1: see them out there after a year of being in
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  Speaker 1: the building and in meetings is something that I'll be
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  Speaker 1: keeping a watchful eye on. Willy Lampkin, who the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: acquired via waivers during cutdowns. He was injured and then
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  Speaker 1: they put him on IR. He had his practice window open,
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  Speaker 1: but never really was able to get on the practice field.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll be looking for Willy Lampkin. How is he
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  Speaker 1: being utilized. Is it just at center or are they
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  Speaker 1: giving him some guard looks? And in terms of just
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  Speaker 1: his movement ability and athleticism, which is what he was
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  Speaker 1: so highly builled. He was so highly billed as this
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  Speaker 1: really athletic, fluid mover that I want to kind of
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  Speaker 1: look to see if those things match what his pre
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  Speaker 1: draft scatting reports said. Because we haven't seen Willy Lampkin.
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  Speaker 1: Then you have other players who are returning, like a
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  Speaker 1: Holland Pierce who was on the practice squad a last season,
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  Speaker 1: Michael Morris, the rookie guard. And you notice I haven't
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  Speaker 1: included Fred Johnson because I've seen a lot of Fred Johnson.
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  Speaker 1: I know what he can do. He's one of the
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  Speaker 1: better backup tackles in the game. But Michael Morris can
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  Speaker 1: Michael Morris get off to a fast enough start to
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  Speaker 1: sort of preclude the Eagles from maybe looking to add
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  Speaker 1: a veteran guard. And again, I go back to safety
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  Speaker 1: for a moment, because there's this sentiment out there that
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles need to do more to reinforce that position.
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  Speaker 1: I can't say that I dispute that, but a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times teams want to see what they have with
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  Speaker 1: their current talent that they've been working with for weeks
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  Speaker 1: and in some cases months, to better better gauge where
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  Speaker 1: they are as a position. Room before you go looking
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  Speaker 1: for external help. And I think that's important to note
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  Speaker 1: just because they haven't rushed to add a player here
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  Speaker 1: or there because you know, you maybe deemed that to
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  Speaker 1: be a thin group. Well, they need to see what
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  Speaker 1: they have first before they go out and do anything.
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  Speaker 1: And so I'll be king in on the backup offensive
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  Speaker 1: line because that group fascinates me. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: competition there. And then lastly, I would say wide receiver.
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  Speaker 1: Wide receiver because one this group is going to have
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  Speaker 1: to move forward and you know, by all accounts from
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  Speaker 1: AJ Brown, they're going to have to get ready for
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  Speaker 1: life without AJ. And I'm curious to see how it
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  Speaker 1: stacks up. Devonte Smith's going to be the wide receiver one.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of questions about Devonte Smith
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  Speaker 1: being able to fulfill that role adequately because he has
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  Speaker 1: done it before as a rookie in twenty twenty one
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  Speaker 1: when Ques Watkins was the outside receiver opposite him and
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  Speaker 1: you had you know, Jalen Rager was in the mix.
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  Speaker 1: So Davante Smith had the shoulder of receiving Corps expectations
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  Speaker 1: have since elevated, of course, but he can do it.
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  Speaker 1: There's not a lot. There's really nothing that I don't
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  Speaker 1: that DeVante can't do. And I've seen him go up
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  Speaker 1: there and compete for the football, whether it's against Pat
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  Speaker 1: Sertan as a rookie, he can well, I guess the
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  Speaker 1: only thing he really can't do is break tackles. But
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  Speaker 1: he's a three level threat. He can get vertical if
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  Speaker 1: you need him to precise route, runner, consummate, professional, great teammate.
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  Speaker 1: All of those things checks off all those boxes. But
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  Speaker 1: then beyond that, I'm looking to see mackay Lemon. Is
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  Speaker 1: he exclusively operating out of the slot? Are they moving
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  Speaker 1: him outside a little bit? Are they giving that positional
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  Speaker 1: versatility look early on? Or is don Tavian Wicks the
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  Speaker 1: outside receiver opposite opposite Devonte Smith?
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  Speaker 1: How is Dontavian Wix being utilized? And then you have
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  Speaker 1: other players like Hollywood Brown. Are they starting to get
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  Speaker 1: him vertical stretching defenses a little bit because teams in
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  Speaker 1: the past haven't necessarily tapped into that element of his game,
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  Speaker 1: which I think is criminal. But in Philadelphia, with jayalhen
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  Speaker 1: Hurts as the quarterback who throws a mean deep ball,
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  Speaker 1: one would presume that that's going to be something that
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  Speaker 1: the offense looks to exploit. And so there's just a
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  Speaker 1: lot of questions that I have in terms of roles
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  Speaker 1: and how these players are ultimately going to stack up
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  Speaker 1: and the depth chart and all that, so I'll be
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  Speaker 1: looking to see how it looks in terms of alignment.
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  Speaker 1: But there's plenty to glean and it's certainly something. All
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  Speaker 1: those things that I mentioned are things that I'll personally
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  Speaker 1: be keeping an eye on. And then of course you
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  Speaker 1: have I mentioned the coaches like Sean Manning and Chris Cooper,
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  Speaker 1: Ryan mhaffey who oversees the tight end room and the
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  Speaker 1: run game. That's something to keep an eye on as well.
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  Speaker 1: But you really you're not going to see anything elaborate
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  Speaker 1: in terms of run schematics or anything like that and
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  Speaker 1: OTAs one would sort of assume there. But some of
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  Speaker 1: the new faces there on the coaching staff and how
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  Speaker 1: they're interacting with players and their involvement in the drills
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  Speaker 1: and things like that are things that I will be
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  Speaker 1: king in on. And this is my favorite time of
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  Speaker 1: the year. OTA's mandatory mini camp training camp where you
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  Speaker 1: see things come together. You're able to better assess how
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  Speaker 1: the pieces could come together, and it's all valuable information.
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  Speaker 1: It's valuable insight that you're able to kind of use
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  Speaker 1: to shape your your thought process here and how you
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  Speaker 1: look at the twenty twenty six photophy Eagles. I'll have
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  Speaker 1: do it for this episode of The Checko Daily. I'm
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  Speaker 1: next one.