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Wander the World: Exploring Paris and France · Wander the World with Pippa Hudson

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Speaker 1: It's time to wander the world. And you may recall
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago in this travel segment, we
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Speaker 1: chatted to the French Consul general about the logistics of
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Speaker 1: South Africans visiting France and some of the more off
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Speaker 1: the beaten track destinations that are worth exploring. But we
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Speaker 1: deliberately didn't talk about the capital city of Paris, because
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Speaker 1: I knew that in the coming weeks both myself and
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Speaker 1: our regular travel corresponded Alison, vote, we're both going to
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Speaker 1: be going this. I thought, you know it, let's wait
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Speaker 1: until now so we can rather give you some first
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Speaker 1: hand input of our wonderings and talk from an informed
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Speaker 1: perspective about what we experienced where we went, tips for
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Speaker 1: first time visitors, et cetera. Allison was there in I
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Speaker 1: think it was early April. Allison, Yeah, and I have
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Speaker 1: literally just got back on Sunday nights, so I guess
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Speaker 1: we can call it the springtime in Paris segment.
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Speaker 2: Why not?
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Speaker 3: Why not? Why not?
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Speaker 1: I mean, you have spoken before about visiting the city.
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Speaker 1: I think, like me, you've had it get under your
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Speaker 1: skin and you just can't keep going back.
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Speaker 3: I love it.
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Speaker 2: This was my fifteenth Wow because don't forget our chain
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Speaker 2: there when I was young, so if I go back
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Speaker 2: to it when I was fourteen or fifteen, So it's
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Speaker 2: been a lot. And this I was with Paul, my husband,
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Speaker 2: and that's a first. I don't travel often with him,
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Speaker 2: and he has a whole different agenda to me that's
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Speaker 2: really revolving around whiskey, coffee and jazz.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so we ferreted all those players. He'd had it
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Speaker 3: on his Instagram. He knows where to go, came across
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Speaker 3: amazing places.
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Speaker 1: So you want to talk to us about some of
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Speaker 1: those little hidden spots and gems that you discovered. And
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Speaker 1: I'm also going to talk a little bit about one
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Speaker 1: or two unexpected things I stumbled upon, and then we'll both,
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Speaker 1: if time allows, talk about the sort of side trips
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Speaker 1: we did outside of Paris, which were equally impressive. But
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Speaker 1: let's dive straight into the music and the nightlife and
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Speaker 1: the dance, because I didn't do much of that, oh
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Speaker 1: with one exception. But tell us where you went and
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Speaker 1: what you found.
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Speaker 2: Obviously my beat would be ballet, opera, jazz. I love jazz,
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Speaker 2: and of course I'm going to start at the Moulin
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Speaker 2: Rouge and throwing back to that because remember you interviewed
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Speaker 2: Kristin Sicana, the Catonian guys in there who got that.
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Speaker 3: Contract at the mid Rouge.
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Speaker 2: Well, I hit him up on a little DM on
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Speaker 2: the Insta and you was like, Deva, you've got to
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Speaker 2: come see the show. And he organized this divine table
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Speaker 2: with a big ball champagne, which would be quite dear
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Speaker 2: if you if I was paying for it myself. I
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Speaker 2: mean those tickets rolled to two fifty euros per person.
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Speaker 2: You get a lot, but for me not enough to warrant.
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Speaker 2: It's a lot, but you can depending on what you're booking.
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Speaker 2: So you started at one hundred and twenty euros, but
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Speaker 2: just the show, just the show, and you get a
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Speaker 2: complimentary dinky of champagne. It's not even a full situation.
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Speaker 2: You've got to sip through a tea spoons whole night
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Speaker 2: and listen and cotton ball.
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Speaker 3: So that you've got to inhale it rather make it lost.
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Speaker 3: So we did that. It was divine.
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Speaker 2: Look, it's very it's very old schools still, they haven't
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Speaker 2: really changed the formula. So it's a typical, you know,
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Speaker 2: the sort of can can vibe. And although having said that,
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Speaker 2: the can can is what quite disappointing. You'll get a
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Speaker 2: better one in Aufice in the underworld that's coming on here,
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Speaker 2: okay really with the high kicks, but there was everything else.
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Speaker 2: It's a long show, it's a big show. You get
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Speaker 2: bang for your buck. And of course there was our
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Speaker 2: Chris at the back.
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Speaker 3: Doing his thing. That's also our feathers, and there's tuele
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Speaker 3: and there's tinsel, and there's sequence.
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Speaker 2: It is all that jazz, like all that glam situation
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Speaker 2: from back in that developed area. And of course the
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Speaker 2: venue is gorgeous still the same with those beautiful frescoes,
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Speaker 2: press ceilings. You really it's much more than I'm just
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Speaker 2: gonna go and see a show. You're going there for
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Speaker 2: the whole thing. Yeah, and you know you can't lose.
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Speaker 2: I mean if I if I could, and I was
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Speaker 2: doing my paying my own way for this time, I didn't,
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Speaker 2: but I would definitely put it on my list.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: So I walked past the outside and stopped and looked
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Speaker 1: at the ticket price and went maybe, yes, okay, so
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Speaker 1: that's what I missed. But okay, that's the big over
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Speaker 1: the top as you say, bells and whistles and bes
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Speaker 1: and feathers galore. You also had some very much smaller
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Speaker 1: and more intimate spaces than Yes, so Paul loves jazz.
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Speaker 2: So we we found a couple of amazing places. But
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Speaker 2: one actually around the corner from Milan Rouge in Pigul
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Speaker 2: was called ling Just, which just think means unjust or
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Speaker 2: something in French. The most divine little spot, very intimate,
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Speaker 2: like a double offering. Depending on what you're booking, you
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Speaker 2: can go and see some cabaret which is just very smoky,
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Speaker 2: you know, women singing with a close old fashioned microphone.
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Speaker 2: Or you can go and catch one of the jazz
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Speaker 2: bands headed up by these like old school young guys
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Speaker 2: with old school where they actually use those strange megaphones
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Speaker 2: to give you that kind of sound you might have
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Speaker 2: gotten on the Titanic if you were having listening to
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Speaker 2: having a cigar in the jazz lounge, you know that
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Speaker 2: sort of tinny, extraordinary sound like an old record player.
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Speaker 2: So there was that, and I mean people arrived. These
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Speaker 2: are kids of like twenty five upwards to thirty five
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Speaker 2: arriving in their close caps and their little beads and
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Speaker 2: flapper skirts. So obviously the word got out through Instagram.
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Speaker 2: It was a themed night, but these guys are regulars
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Speaker 2: playing what they call early jazz, and it was extraordinary.
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Speaker 2: Also an Art Deco building, so you know, Paris is
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Speaker 2: so full of that. Nothing is just I'm having a coffee.
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Speaker 2: You're having a coffee and you are looking at some
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Speaker 2: incredible houseman building that's been there since you're dot. It's
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Speaker 2: so layered and it's so exciting, and it's so steeped
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Speaker 2: inheritage in history. You just feel it's magical. And honestly,
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Speaker 2: that's why I keep going back.
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Speaker 3: You can't lose.
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Speaker 1: I felt the same way. I mean, I walked a
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Speaker 1: hundred my foot but tells me I'm not making this up.
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Speaker 1: I walked one hundred and five kilometers in not quite
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Speaker 1: six days, and the last air of that was in
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Speaker 1: the Pigull And you know, stumbling around a corner as
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Speaker 1: you say, and there's it's the opera Ganette. Yes, just
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Speaker 1: the outside of the building itself is worth going to see,
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Speaker 1: never mind going inside to listen to a show. And
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Speaker 1: then you come around another corner, you head down into
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Speaker 1: the eighth Iran Dismont. You come across the Madeland Church,
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Speaker 1: which was quite close to where I was staying, and
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Speaker 1: you know, little little post opened to the fence saying, oh,
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Speaker 1: there's a string quintet playing here tomorrow night. So I
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Speaker 1: went to go and listen to the four Seasons played
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Speaker 1: by a string quintet inside the Madeleine Church. I was
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Speaker 1: pushing myself the whole night at the acoustics. I was
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Speaker 1: sitting in this massive church. It's a it's a sort
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Speaker 1: of cathedral feel inside. From the outside it looks like
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Speaker 1: a Greek temple with columns, and then just this music
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Speaker 1: going into the heights of the church. It was absolutely
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Speaker 1: spine chillingly beautiful. But as you say, Aliston, you stumble
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Speaker 1: upon something like that around every corner.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of it available, and there's and all
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Speaker 2: these little hidden entrances and secrets, little gems of these
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Speaker 2: little spots. I also did opera in Sanchapelle, which is
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Speaker 2: really famous for it. Also, as you say, they all
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Speaker 2: look quite sort of like normal. The church is the
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Speaker 2: church is a church in a certain rank of church
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Speaker 2: in Paris. And then you go in and they're all
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Speaker 2: quite magnificent, so splendid with these stained glass windows, and
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Speaker 2: you're listening to some other aria from traviata, something we
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Speaker 2: all know that our untrained might not, just you know, interestingly,
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Speaker 2: just be familiar with. So there's so much to see.
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Speaker 3: You're so spoiled for choice. So fine.
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Speaker 1: My biggest piece of advice I can give to anybody
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Speaker 1: who's going for the first time is don't over schedule
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Speaker 1: and try and see too much. Because the beauty of
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Speaker 1: the city is being in it and walking in it
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Speaker 1: and sitting and watching people. And exactly it's well designed
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Speaker 1: for that. They're parks around every corner. They've got beautiful
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Speaker 1: sculptured benches in them. People come and use them at
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Speaker 1: lunch time. You see everybody sitting with their coffee and
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Speaker 1: you know their their buguette, people playing. Just on every
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Speaker 1: corner there's a little green spot like that. One of
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Speaker 1: the unexpected ones I stumbled upon was the high Line Park.
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Speaker 1: To do that, I didn't have time, which is right
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Speaker 1: far sort of on the right bank, in the east
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Speaker 1: part of the city, so it's a bit of a
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Speaker 1: mission to get to. But once you're there, they have
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Speaker 1: turned an old abandoned railway line into a park outstanding
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Speaker 1: that's I believe it in total runs over four kilometers.
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Speaker 1: I explored a little one kilometer section and went and yeah,
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Speaker 1: so you walk up the steps to what looks like
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Speaker 1: the top of the old aqueduct and there is this
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Speaker 1: magnificent park where the running track through the middle that
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Speaker 1: people are jogging on, benches, trees, birds singing. It was
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Speaker 1: so so beautiful, And there are places like that that
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Speaker 1: you stumble around every corner.
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Speaker 3: I know.
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Speaker 2: It's it's a very full experience your day. You art
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Speaker 2: early and you're back late. That's the that's the joy
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Speaker 2: of Paris. I mean, there's just surprise at every turn.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Now, in terms of sort of sideways destinations and a
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Speaker 1: little day trip out of Paris here and there, I
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Speaker 1: actually did a two day trip out of Paris because
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Speaker 1: one of the reasons I went to France this time
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Speaker 1: was that on the very first day of my very
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Speaker 1: first French lesson ever in high school, my teacher put
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Speaker 1: up a slide of Mont Saint Michel. I said, this
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Speaker 1: is one of the most beautiful things to see in France.
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Speaker 1: This is why you must learn to speak French and
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Speaker 1: take this class seriously. And I looked at it and
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Speaker 1: I thought, one day I'm going to go there. Yes, Well,
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Speaker 1: that day was last Thursday, and so I signed up
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Speaker 1: for a two day guided term, which I normally don't do.
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Speaker 3: I normally travel on my own, but I'm so glad
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Speaker 3: I did at that time.
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Speaker 1: So I had one day out to first Some Malo.
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Speaker 1: Those of you who read or watched all the light
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Speaker 1: we cannot see, we'll know the story of some Maloo,
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Speaker 1: which was bombed and rebuilt. And then the afternoon was
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Speaker 1: at Mont sa Michelle, which is it's effectively a massive
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Speaker 1: abbey at the top of what is effectively an island,
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Speaker 1: although there is now a bridge across, but it is
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Speaker 1: cut off by the tides at high tide and driving
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Speaker 1: over the bridge unless the bridge is flooded, that is,
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Speaker 1: but it is, and you climb up and up and up,
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Speaker 1: so take good shoes. I think it was four hundred
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Speaker 1: plus steps straight up the side of a hill to
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Speaker 1: this magnificent abbey which dates back hundreds and hundreds of years,
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Speaker 1: and just the most exquisite experience, and I thought it
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Speaker 1: couldn't get any better than that. And then the following day,
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Speaker 1: having seen a little bit of Brittany and a little
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Speaker 1: bit of Normandy, we then went deep into the Normandy
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Speaker 1: beaches and the d day.
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Speaker 3: Memorials. Yes, and that was extraordinary, justin Fox Territory. Yeah, really,
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Speaker 3: and I knew it was going to be moving, but
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Speaker 3: I was. It was.
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Speaker 1: I've struggled to find the words for it, and in fact,
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Speaker 1: Nicholas just written in to say, on the sixth of
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Speaker 1: June last year, I was privileged to be on Gold
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Speaker 1: Beach commemorating the eighty first anniversary of my father's Royal
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Speaker 1: Marine commander landing with the forty seven, sharing the day
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Speaker 1: with their association, retracing the steps that he and his
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Speaker 1: commander took after they had landed, a very emotional and
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Speaker 1: personal day seeing and then they went into a pub,
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Speaker 1: she said. The commander commandeers a pub in the village
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Speaker 1: once a year which displays all the members' faces. And
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Speaker 1: seeing my dad there was the proudest moment. Lest we
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Speaker 1: forget Nikola, I mean what I mean, that's such a
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Speaker 1: personal story to add to it, just to be on
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Speaker 1: that beach, and we were lucky it was a public
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Speaker 1: holiday the first of May, so there was hardly anybody
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Speaker 1: else there on this beautiful, beautiful calm day with the
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Speaker 1: most beautiful statue called Lebrev the Brave, which has been
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Speaker 1: built on Omaha Beach, and then to go from there
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Speaker 1: to the American Cemetery with row upon row of crosses,
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Speaker 1: all dated the sixth of June, not all of them,
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Speaker 1: but many of them dated the sixth of June nineteen
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Speaker 1: forty four. Four thousand young.
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Speaker 3: Men buried there.
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Speaker 1: And I had such a moment because you know, I'm
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Speaker 1: the mother of a nineteen year old son.
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Speaker 3: Yes, to stand there in context.
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Speaker 1: In that context seventy years ago, eighty years ago, this
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Speaker 1: would have been my son potentially. It was extraordinary, beautifully
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Speaker 1: beautifully done, a beautiful place of just such sensitive peace
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Speaker 1: and tranquility. And then the only thing that really sort
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Speaker 1: of kicked me and the gut was to go from
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Speaker 1: there then down to Afromanche, one of the other landing sites,
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Speaker 1: and to see the temporary port and every curio shop
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Speaker 1: selling little Boys war helmets and fake guns and tanks
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Speaker 1: and thing. No, that's a disconnect between That was very
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Speaker 1: hard for me. I found that very jarring. But as
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Speaker 1: you said, Allison, sometimes a guided tour, this was one
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Speaker 1: of those times where I'm really really glad I had
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Speaker 1: somebody else talking me through, explaining what I worked recreating,
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Speaker 1: you know what it was like on the day in
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Speaker 1: question and what was really really worth it. So I
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Speaker 1: would say, if you're thinking of going on a sort
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Speaker 1: of a wall pilgrimagechef and put it that way, choose
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Speaker 1: the tour carefully because some of them combined sort of
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Speaker 1: general sight seeing we went onto which were amazing, But
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Speaker 1: if you were wanting a really in depth experience of
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Speaker 1: the war sites, look for one that is just dedicated
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Speaker 1: to the D Day section only. There was one person
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Speaker 1: on our two who was disappointed because they thought there
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Speaker 1: was too much sight seeing and not enough D Day
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Speaker 1: which is why I mentioned that. So just be be
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Speaker 1: mindful of what it is you're looking for. But if
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Speaker 1: you're looking for it was a two day tour with
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Speaker 1: Paris City Vision.
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Speaker 3: You highly recommend it.
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Speaker 1: Very very good, wonderful to a guide and really phenomenal.
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Speaker 1: Where did you go on your little Well, this is
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Speaker 1: the true Paris what.
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Speaker 2: I You know, I've got such an affinity for the
12:21
Speaker 2: south of France because I trained in a Russian ballet
12:23
Speaker 2: school there briefly when I was fourteen and fifteen. And
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Speaker 2: so you can actually take the TGV from Gardelion from
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Speaker 2: Paris takes about six hours, very scenic down to Nice
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Speaker 2: and then catch the train from Nice to Mentor, which
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Speaker 2: is the sort of unhralded end stop on that line
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Speaker 2: flocks the coast. You can get off, get on, whatever
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Speaker 2: you want to do, but it's just exquisite the little
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Speaker 2: villages that you can stop at and explore, like z
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Speaker 2: Ville Franche and this Menton, which is a sort of
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Speaker 2: the village of Lemons, which is super famous and it's
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Speaker 2: right on the Italian French border, and this stop is
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Speaker 2: sort of the hero of the French rivieras Monaco, yes,
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Speaker 2: which I didn't like. I don't personally, you're not mad
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Speaker 2: about Monaco. I find it. It is so built up
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Speaker 2: and so garish, with the tesla's and the super yachts.
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Speaker 2: It's quite a lot to take in. But that's sort
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Speaker 2: of like, you know, the glitzy crown of the Riveria.
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Speaker 2: But before that are the real gems, these beautiful coves.
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Speaker 2: You can go to the beach and I mean the
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Speaker 2: best thing we did was ended Menton splash out on
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Speaker 2: a lunch at the mischilin the three mission start.
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Speaker 3: It's still there, still thriving, and then.
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Speaker 2: Also beautiful, like they all have these exquisite old towns
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Speaker 2: and villages with the coupled streets. I did an e
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Speaker 2: byte tour here and there. It was absolutely rejuvenating.
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Speaker 3: I loved it.
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Speaker 2: Spent the time on the beach in Menton. So you
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Speaker 2: go all the way there and as I said, you
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Speaker 2: can stop and start. If you won't get on, get
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Speaker 2: off and then you can keep going. And that costs
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Speaker 2: no money. It's like four euros a ticket, so you
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Speaker 2: can spend so little money, get it all in and
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Speaker 2: then stay the night in ment On if you want
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Speaker 2: to one of the other little villages and like for instance,
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Speaker 2: as you can do a walk through the Lavender, go
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Speaker 2: to the travel and you see that incredible view. I
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Speaker 2: mean the Court des You is something else. I mean,
14:11
Speaker 2: I love Cape Town and I think we've got the
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Speaker 2: most amazing brief.
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Speaker 3: Black beaches and that those four curves of Clifton.
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Speaker 2: But I have to say, I do think is your
14:19
Speaker 2: trumps us a little bit here and there in parts.
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Speaker 2: It's not say all in sections as divine, so you
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Speaker 2: know you can have the best time. That TGV is
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Speaker 2: a great experience. It's a sigh speed train. You can
14:31
Speaker 2: go direct and it's it's not cheap. I mean you
14:34
Speaker 2: can run the gamut from like forty euros all the
14:38
Speaker 2: way up to one hundred and fifty euros. But that
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Speaker 2: the trick is if you plan like you say, plan
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Speaker 2: that in advance, because the more in advance you book,
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Speaker 2: the cheap it is you crack those deals. Yeah, otherwise
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Speaker 2: you're going to be really shot with super expense.
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Speaker 3: The last minute long distance truble's going to kill you.
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Speaker 1: Short distance public transport in parasaturgy a train or bus, ticke,
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Speaker 1: It costs less.
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Speaker 3: Than a cup of coffee, exactly.
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Speaker 1: It is so easy to navigate. Everything is done on
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Speaker 1: an app these days, so it is very very easy
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Speaker 1: to use and to get around the city. Really, I mean,
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Speaker 1: as I said, I did a lot of it on foot.
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Speaker 1: But but you can literally traverse the entire city very easily.
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Speaker 3: But your long distance is another story.
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Speaker 1: So so so if you know you're wanting to do
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Speaker 1: something like that, book the longer distance. I did the same,
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Speaker 1: the normandy trip I booked in inn.
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Speaker 2: That without it cost create a crater in your wallet.
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Speaker 1: The other thing I want to mention, I mean a
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Speaker 1: couple of just observations. Going back to Paris itself, the
15:34
Speaker 1: city has visibly been cleaned up and up for the
15:36
Speaker 1: Olympics obviously, and the remnants of that are everywhere. Brand
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Speaker 1: new street signs on everything, fantastic communication, everything you know,
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Speaker 1: repeated in English, on the trades, et cetera. It's really easy.
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Speaker 1: They've made it really easy to visit. Bicycle culture is
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Speaker 1: a new thing for I think this was my fourth
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Speaker 1: the first time I've been so aware of so many bicies.
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Speaker 2: Believe the bike you just you tap your credit garden
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Speaker 2: if you go, yes, said, I think I'd have to
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Speaker 2: becompletely mad to do it, because the traffic is, you know,
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Speaker 2: crazy like everywhere else, and they're just going. Everybody knows
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Speaker 2: in the bicycle people, the cultures. I mean I put
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Speaker 2: an Instagram post off just a grid of bicycles that
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Speaker 2: I saw in ten minutes. Yeah, well you know that's
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Speaker 2: the thing. Sitting at the cafe facing outwards, people watching, yeah,
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Speaker 2: and bicycle watching. I was like, look at that, look
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Speaker 2: at that was just the basic people.
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Speaker 3: Watching, bicycle watching and dog watching.
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Speaker 1: Every second person has a dog in the.
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Speaker 3: Dog, the others a bucket. Yeah, I mean it's they made.
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Speaker 1: A central French look and a cigarette in their mouth. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: still very much part of in my back yeah, but
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Speaker 1: there we go. I mean, Alison, we've touched on a
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Speaker 1: couple of experiences here. The point of the conversation is,
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Speaker 1: don't just do the main tourist sites. Yes, there are
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Speaker 1: gorgeous and if it's your first trip, yes, do the
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Speaker 1: crews on the sand have a look, orientate yourself, see
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Speaker 1: not with them, see the big suckracer. Obviously you want
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Speaker 1: to see those made attractions. But half the beauty of
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Speaker 1: visiting this place is getting lost, sitting down having a
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Speaker 1: coffee and watching people and watching the world go by.
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Speaker 3: And just just just drinking.
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Speaker 1: And those sit in the park because they make it
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Speaker 1: so easy for you to do that, and to try
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Speaker 1: to stop converting euros. Torond no moment of going how
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Speaker 1: much did I just pay for a cookie? That was
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Speaker 1: on day one and by day seven I was just like, no, no,
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Speaker 1: we're just going to go. Just eat the cookie or
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Speaker 1: the paribreast or the Yeah. I tried my best to
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Speaker 1: test every pastry known to mankind. I'm not sure I
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Speaker 1: finished the entire list, but I made a good effort.
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Speaker 3: It is all I can. Well, you look good on it,
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Speaker 3: thanks Listen.
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Speaker 1: Allison's blog is full of beautiful photographs and writing about
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Speaker 1: recent travels, including a lot on the things you can
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Speaker 1: do in Paris without paying for anything, because there is
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Speaker 1: a lot that you can do for free. That's an
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Speaker 1: important thing that emphasise. Yeah, so please do go and
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Speaker 1: check out cape down diva dot com for photographs and
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Speaker 1: I've sent a whole lot of my photographs to our
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Speaker 1: digital team and ask them to load it with the
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Speaker 1: podcast this conversation Allison, so love you to catch up
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Speaker 1: you too.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back and Flexy will be in menu. Okay,