Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Wiz Khalifa Talks Kush + Orange Juice 2, Raising His Kids, Coachella, Mac Miller, Max B + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Yep, it's the World No Dangerous Morning Show to Breakfast Club,
- 0:07Speaker 2: Charlamagne and God Laura La Rossa. Envy's on his book tours,
- 0:10Speaker 2: so he had to step out. Jesse Larius is home.
- 0:12Speaker 2: But we got a legend in the building. It's okay
- 0:15Speaker 2: to call you that.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I'm cool with that.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Yeah, with Khalifa's hip. What's happening to my brother? Seen
- 0:20Speaker 2: you in a minute, not in person.
- 0:21Speaker 1: I know it's been a while.
- 0:22Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you've been working out, COVID happened, been taking
- 0:27Speaker 3: care of my kids.
- 0:28Speaker 2: How are you?
- 0:29Speaker 1: I'm amazing, Thank you? How are you?
- 0:30Speaker 2: You're still doing the MMA and all that?
- 0:32Speaker 1: Absolutely every day?
- 0:33Speaker 2: Yeah, you wake up and do it early in the morning.
- 0:36Speaker 3: I have like a routine, so I go to the
- 0:38Speaker 3: gym five days a week. I do martial arts as well,
- 0:43Speaker 3: so I'm like, uh lifting, martial arts, and I do
- 0:47Speaker 3: hot yoga three times a week. So I'll get up
- 0:50Speaker 3: at like six with my kids, take care of my
- 0:53Speaker 3: dogs and my kids. Then I eat breakfast, then I
- 0:56Speaker 3: go to the gym, probably around like nine ish, and
- 0:59Speaker 3: then you know, from nine to about one or two
- 1:02Speaker 3: in the afternoon.
- 1:03Speaker 1: That's my program time. And then after that I got
- 1:05Speaker 1: the rest of my.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Day program telling me what to smoke.
- 1:07Speaker 3: No, no, no, program is like workout, got yeah yeah,
- 1:11Speaker 3: whatever the program is for today, that's what I do.
- 1:13Speaker 1: So you work high stone smoking between all of that. Yeah, yeah, No.
- 1:18Speaker 3: I smoke on the way to the gym and then
- 1:20Speaker 3: on my way to the next event. Yeah, yeah, for sure,
- 1:22Speaker 3: I stay stone.
- 1:24Speaker 4: How long have you been smoking now.
- 1:28Speaker 3: I've been high for longer than I've been not high. Okay,
- 1:33Speaker 3: yeah consecutively.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you be doing the shrooms?
- 1:37Speaker 1: No, I quit doing shrooms.
- 1:39Speaker 3: I did it for a minute, so I don't really
- 1:40Speaker 3: need I feel like I need to keep doing them
- 1:42Speaker 3: over and over.
- 1:43Speaker 2: I'm glad you said need right because I was going
- 1:45Speaker 2: to ask, what is your intention when you smoke weed? Nowadays?
- 1:48Speaker 1: I just love being stoned. Yeah.
- 1:51Speaker 3: I like the way it makes me feel. I like
- 1:53Speaker 3: the decisions that I make when I'm stoned. I like
- 1:56Speaker 3: the way movies look when I'm stoned. I like playing
- 1:59Speaker 3: with my kids when I'm sting. I just love being high.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Yeah. Off marijuana though, just marijuana, not anything crazy.
- 2:07Speaker 2: The Cushion Orange Juice, Range Juice too. Yeah, great project.
- 2:12Speaker 2: I love I love the first time second apid though
- 2:13Speaker 2: th tough it. I really love the first asp thank you.
- 2:15Speaker 2: But it got like a nineteen ninety now G funk
- 2:19Speaker 2: sound for sure. Was that intentional?
- 2:20Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, definitely.
- 2:22Speaker 3: I think that was like the original sound of Cushion
- 2:25Speaker 3: Orange Juice For a lot of people, it was like
- 2:27Speaker 3: nostalgic for the nineties or G funk or you know,
- 2:31Speaker 3: just riding around in.
- 2:32Speaker 1: The car going to house parties getting fresh.
- 2:34Speaker 3: It just got that whole you know, player vibe to
- 2:37Speaker 3: it and a little bit of funk to it as
- 2:39Speaker 3: well as just like the way the beats slap and
- 2:41Speaker 3: the way that the base is there. So a lot
- 2:44Speaker 3: of the productions Cardo and Sledgron and E Dan and
- 2:48Speaker 3: just the original people who you know, put that sound together.
- 2:50Speaker 3: So it was really easy to just bring it back. Yeah,
- 2:54Speaker 3: I'm glad you like it. Slaps thank you.
- 2:56Speaker 5: You had announced in twenty twenty four that this project
- 2:59Speaker 5: was done and now it's here.
- 3:01Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:02Speaker 4: The release of.
- 3:02Speaker 5: It, so is it traditional release to streaming or like
- 3:04Speaker 5: how you're going to do because Cushion Orange just one
- 3:06Speaker 5: it was like you do did your own thing. You dropped,
- 3:08Speaker 5: you kind of changed the way people were listening to
- 3:10Speaker 5: music mixes at the time.
- 3:11Speaker 1: Right now, this one's going to streaming.
- 3:13Speaker 3: We're releasing it through BMG, and uh, they've been really
- 3:16Speaker 3: really cool at letting me kind of just curate the
- 3:20Speaker 3: vibe and what the feeling of it is, and they
- 3:22Speaker 3: understand what the project is.
- 3:23Speaker 1: And we've had meetings, you know, weekly just.
- 3:26Speaker 3: How we're going to attack it and you know, make
- 3:29Speaker 3: it last and making something real. So I've just been
- 3:32Speaker 3: really excited about updating, you know, the format. I think
- 3:36Speaker 3: that's what's most important, especially for like being an OG
- 3:39Speaker 3: in the game, is you know, releasing things with the
- 3:43Speaker 3: times how they are now, but also still being innovative
- 3:46Speaker 3: as well. And that's why you see, like in between
- 3:48Speaker 3: I've been dropping freestyles and doing a lot of stuff
- 3:51Speaker 3: like just entertaining my fans because I still have that freedom,
- 3:55Speaker 3: I'm able to do that as we get ready for
- 3:58Speaker 3: the album too, So just to put it all together
- 4:00Speaker 3: and make it current, I think that was the idea
- 4:02Speaker 3: for all of us.
- 4:03Speaker 2: You know, yesterday was the fifteenth anniversary of Cushion Ars.
- 4:06Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I did hear that April fourteen, So you
- 4:09Speaker 6: did hear that, Yeah, album, I dropped so many albums
- 4:13Speaker 6: and stuff like that, like every month is an anniversary
- 4:17Speaker 6: of another project.
- 4:18Speaker 1: But fifteen years, Yeah, that's tight.
- 4:20Speaker 3: And I think we're really lucky to be able to well,
- 4:23Speaker 3: I'm grateful to be able to drop you know, the
- 4:26Speaker 3: sequel as close to as I did with the original one.
- 4:29Speaker 3: I feel like that's like a sign that just you know,
- 4:33Speaker 3: feels now it just worked out like that.
- 4:36Speaker 2: It is divine alignment.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Like that.
- 4:39Speaker 2: Do you remember your mind state? April fourteenth, twenty ten.
- 4:43Speaker 2: I do, Okay, Yeah, what was it. I was just
- 4:48Speaker 2: getting off tour. I was in Miami.
- 4:52Speaker 3: I was working on rolling papers the album, but I
- 4:54Speaker 3: already had Cushion or Orange Juice done, and I had
- 4:58Speaker 3: been hyping it up for a lot of months before,
- 5:00Speaker 3: so my fans knew it was about to come out.
- 5:03Speaker 3: And I remember just going to the hotel room. I
- 5:05Speaker 3: was in a nice ass hotel on the beach, and
- 5:09Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I'm about to drop it, and
- 5:10Speaker 3: I just released it from my computer that day. I
- 5:12Speaker 3: was really I was still am super confident, but I
- 5:14Speaker 3: was really really like super duper confident about the music
- 5:18Speaker 3: and just my connection with my fans, So that was
- 5:21Speaker 3: the time to do it.
- 5:22Speaker 2: Did it pissed the label off when you dropped in.
- 5:24Speaker 3: I really wasn't signed at that point. They were kind
- 5:26Speaker 3: of thinking about signing me, working on signing me. But
- 5:30Speaker 3: it didn't piss them off at all. They knew how
- 5:33Speaker 3: important it was for me to still curate that organic
- 5:37Speaker 3: thing because at that time I was doing a lot
- 5:39Speaker 3: more for myself than any label could do. And it's
- 5:41Speaker 3: still like that, Like I promote myself, I do my
- 5:44Speaker 3: social media, I do my merch, I do my marketing,
- 5:47Speaker 3: and I do all I just give you a whole
- 5:49Speaker 3: package and then you could just you know, you look
- 5:51Speaker 3: like a genius.
- 5:52Speaker 2: Well because changed everything though, that was like your that's
- 5:54Speaker 2: like your section eighty.
- 5:55Speaker 5: That's so far gone that like beanded the tailor game. Yeah,
- 6:00Speaker 5: Like we were talking about it before you came in.
- 6:02Speaker 5: Like I remember the feeling when Cushion orangees came out,
- 6:05Speaker 5: and like I was a senior in high school and
- 6:07Speaker 5: like they would throw parties where you would literally come
- 6:09Speaker 5: to smoke and only listen to Cushion Orange jeps, and
- 6:11Speaker 5: like it was it was such a movement that it
- 6:14Speaker 5: was like really such a movement.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what it was for. So it's good
- 6:17Speaker 1: that that happened.
- 6:18Speaker 3: It was all intentional and it was like, like you said,
- 6:21Speaker 3: that's like my you know, or my doggy style or
- 6:23Speaker 3: my illmatic Like I knew I had to make something
- 6:26Speaker 3: that was like that, and you know that was a
- 6:29Speaker 3: good one to be attached to. And yeah, it was
- 6:31Speaker 3: just I always tell people it's bigger than the music.
- 6:34Speaker 3: It's stuff like what you're saying, like, that's what makes
- 6:36Speaker 3: it what it is. Like even this album now, it's
- 6:39Speaker 3: amazing music wise, but you can't just sit there and
- 6:41Speaker 3: listen to it.
- 6:42Speaker 1: You gotta experience that shit.
- 6:44Speaker 3: You gotta go to a beach, you gotta go on vacation,
- 6:46Speaker 3: you gotta kick it with the homies, you gotta hang
- 6:48Speaker 3: out super duper late. You got to hook up with
- 6:50Speaker 3: somebody who you've been you know, or you got to
- 6:53Speaker 3: meet somebody who you never even understood understood that with you.
- 6:57Speaker 3: That's what makes it what it is, and that's what
- 6:59Speaker 3: I'm excited for people to experience, as well as the
- 7:02Speaker 3: music being good.
- 7:02Speaker 2: People don't realize that though. When you put out music,
- 7:05Speaker 2: music just provides the soundtrack to whatever you're experiencing in life. Yeah,
- 7:09Speaker 2: that's why you can never argue with certain people about
- 7:12Speaker 2: certain albums because the time of life they were experiencing
- 7:16Speaker 2: that album. Yeah, you can't like when somebody says, oh,
- 7:18Speaker 2: this is this is gonna remind you of whiz Kalif
- 7:20Speaker 2: for cushion Ards. Nah, right, I'm on something totally different
- 7:24Speaker 2: than I was than twenty ten exactly.
- 7:26Speaker 1: It's personal.
- 7:27Speaker 3: Yeah, I think people do have those personal moments or
- 7:30Speaker 3: those life decisions and what you're listening to at the
- 7:33Speaker 3: time definitely, you know dictates, you know what your memories
- 7:38Speaker 3: of that are, so it gets deep.
- 7:42Speaker 5: Do you think that because I saw that you have
- 7:43Speaker 5: like it's twenty two or twenty three songs on the project.
- 7:46Speaker 4: Yeah, it's twenty two I.
- 7:47Speaker 2: Think so full Bonus records, four five Bonus record.
- 7:50Speaker 1: Bonus record.
- 7:50Speaker 5: So normally with people who put that many songs on
- 7:52Speaker 5: in one place, it's like, you think people are gonna
- 7:54Speaker 5: listen to start to finish. But like I and me
- 7:56Speaker 5: listening to it, I don't have any doubt that people will.
- 7:59Speaker 5: Do you think that the conversation that you're having at
- 8:01Speaker 5: the beginning and then the conversation you haven't at the end,
- 8:04Speaker 5: is it cohesive? Or do you just throw songs on there,
- 8:06Speaker 5: like how do you kind of flowing out of well?
- 8:08Speaker 3: With this project, the last maybe four songs we put
- 8:14Speaker 3: out before the album came out. We use this method
- 8:18Speaker 3: called the waterfall method, where you put songs out and
- 8:21Speaker 3: then add them.
- 8:22Speaker 1: To the album later.
- 8:23Speaker 3: And that was a conscious decision because I didn't know
- 8:27Speaker 3: what people were gonna want to hear. So those songs
- 8:29Speaker 3: helped me dictate what I was going to do with
- 8:32Speaker 3: the album. And I still like those songs, but they
- 8:36Speaker 3: weren't exactly what you were going to get from the
- 8:39Speaker 3: full album. So I used that as an opportunity to,
- 8:43Speaker 3: you know, do some promo and get the idea of
- 8:46Speaker 3: the album out there. But by the time you get
- 8:48Speaker 3: the actual real album, those eighteen songs are brand new.
- 8:52Speaker 3: Those are an experience that nobody has yet and that
- 8:56Speaker 3: everybody's going to get together. And that's where to me,
- 8:59Speaker 3: the more the conversation is is from the intro to
- 9:04Speaker 3: the eighteen song, and.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty simple.
- 9:07Speaker 3: It's the whole album is just about keeping it players motivational.
- 9:11Speaker 3: It's get stoned, and there's songs for the ladies and
- 9:16Speaker 3: their songs to ride around to. So as long as
- 9:18Speaker 3: I'm in that pocket. Yeah, the conversation is good in
- 9:22Speaker 3: my opinion. I know what my fans want and what
- 9:24Speaker 3: they expect, so I didn't go outside of that at all.
- 9:26Speaker 2: Why a sequel after all of these years, because that
- 9:29Speaker 2: could be hit of miss too.
- 9:32Speaker 3: Yeah, I just again listening to the fans. Man, everybody
- 9:37Speaker 3: was telling me like how much they missed that sound
- 9:40Speaker 3: or that pocket of what I was doing at that time,
- 9:43Speaker 3: or how much they enjoyed it. So it's nothing for
- 9:45Speaker 3: me as an artist to like, you know, dig in
- 9:48Speaker 3: my bag and get with the producers that I trust
- 9:50Speaker 3: and really not recreate that but do what.
- 9:53Speaker 1: That sounds like now.
- 9:55Speaker 3: But it's the same feeling though, like you know what
- 9:56Speaker 3: I mean, and I'm not scared to do that. And
- 9:59Speaker 3: it's all about the fans. It's offered them and it's
- 10:01Speaker 3: what they want, you know. Like a lot of nostalgic
- 10:03Speaker 3: stuff is coming back. And my era, like you said,
- 10:07Speaker 3: is fifteen years ago, so it's way yeah, it's way
- 10:10Speaker 3: further removed than it is close. So why not just
- 10:13Speaker 3: go ahead and just revisit something that was you know,
- 10:16Speaker 3: big to us and that people appreciate the.
- 10:18Speaker 2: Problem with fans though they fickle and they don't want
- 10:20Speaker 2: you to grow. So you so you so even though
- 10:22Speaker 2: you've grown, like you're a father now, like your life
- 10:25Speaker 2: might be totally different than it was fifteen years ago,
- 10:27Speaker 2: They're like, no, I want twenty ten. Yeah, that's impossible.
- 10:31Speaker 3: I don't think it's impossible, really, yeah, because I think
- 10:33Speaker 3: they just want the best. Like I can experiment and
- 10:37Speaker 3: I can sing, and I can do country songs or
- 10:39Speaker 3: pop records, but they're like, yo, we like when you rap,
- 10:42Speaker 3: or I could wear you know, high fashion and you
- 10:45Speaker 3: know runway stuff, but they're like, we like when you
- 10:47Speaker 3: wear streetwear. And it's not hard for me to just
- 10:50Speaker 3: get right back into that. It's like, Okay, I'm trying
- 10:52Speaker 3: what I like and I'm still gonna do that in
- 10:54Speaker 3: my off time or if I get an opportunity to
- 10:56Speaker 3: do it, I'm gonna throw a suit on and I'm
- 10:58Speaker 3: gonna do a pop record, but it's not be my song.
- 11:00Speaker 3: It'll be somebody else's and I could still chart and
- 11:03Speaker 3: perform it all over the world.
- 11:04Speaker 1: But for my fans, I'm gonna give them what they want.
- 11:07Speaker 5: But you are Dad now Dada too, and making the
- 11:10Speaker 5: music and putting this project together like it does still
- 11:12Speaker 5: sound like whisky. For it's new and it's innovative, but
- 11:15Speaker 5: it's it's still the same feeling. How do you because
- 11:17Speaker 5: you are different, your dad is so different.
- 11:20Speaker 3: Now yeah, yeah, I think I'm just like a little
- 11:22Speaker 3: I mean, I just keep it one hundred like that's
- 11:25Speaker 3: what I always did. I always just talked about my life.
- 11:28Speaker 3: I talked about my day. I talk about my week.
- 11:30Speaker 3: So like I've never run out of bars.
- 11:33Speaker 4: What's it like doing this whole run?
- 11:34Speaker 3: I so you got your coach, they don't go nowhere, Man,
- 11:40Speaker 3: I need some cisors.
- 11:41Speaker 1: I got.
- 11:44Speaker 4: Get some scissors.
- 11:45Speaker 5: But it was you were and you did you stay?
- 11:50Speaker 5: You did a stage right here, you did perform.
- 11:52Speaker 3: I came I came out with with my Fia, and
- 11:54Speaker 3: I came out with Tie on Sunday.
- 11:57Speaker 5: And now though when you running around, you got to
- 12:01Speaker 5: make time to get back to family too.
- 12:03Speaker 4: So how is that going to because you're about to
- 12:04Speaker 4: go on the tour.
- 12:05Speaker 3: It's cool like with me because I feel like I
- 12:08Speaker 3: do a great balance of each So I've spun spun,
- 12:12Speaker 3: I've spent so much time at home and you know,
- 12:15Speaker 3: having my regular schedule, it's okay for me to step
- 12:18Speaker 3: away and do this for now, because this is what
- 12:19Speaker 3: I've been playing, this is what I've been working tours,
- 12:22Speaker 3: so you know, it's all part of the same process,
- 12:24Speaker 3: like it all goes together.
- 12:26Speaker 2: I feel like Coachella was quiet this year.
- 12:28Speaker 1: Now I wasn't quiet this year. It was it was
- 12:30Speaker 1: pretty rowdy.
- 12:32Speaker 3: I think they're trying to just take it back to
- 12:33Speaker 3: the essence of like what Coachella is about. So they
- 12:36Speaker 3: getting rid of like all the hype and all the
- 12:37Speaker 3: parties and stuff, and it's really about going to the
- 12:39Speaker 3: festival and a lot of people ain't down and like
- 12:42Speaker 3: you know, go in the desert and get dusty like that.
- 12:45Speaker 2: How was the energy ill? Did you? Because I saw
- 12:47Speaker 2: people complaining that the crowd. Crowd was dead, not for
- 12:52Speaker 2: your not just for yoursel, but just in general.
- 12:57Speaker 3: In my opinion, I think Coachella is all about like
- 13:00Speaker 3: the production and stuff like that. It's not really about
- 13:02Speaker 3: like seeing the crowd go crazy because they've been out
- 13:04Speaker 3: there all day, hot as hell, on drugs, sleeping in
- 13:08Speaker 3: tents and.
- 13:08Speaker 1: Stuff like that, so you can't really expect like too much.
- 13:11Speaker 3: But I think it was I think it was really
- 13:14Speaker 3: like what Coachella is all about Yeah, I had a
- 13:16Speaker 3: good time.
- 13:17Speaker 1: It was cool. I don't think it was dead.
- 13:18Speaker 5: I saw you were you and Amy were dancing on
- 13:20Speaker 5: the side of stage.
- 13:21Speaker 1: P Yeah.
- 13:21Speaker 5: Why are people so mad that you that's your girlfriend?
- 13:24Speaker 5: Why aren't mad that you dancing with your girl?
- 13:25Speaker 1: I don't think people were mad.
- 13:26Speaker 3: I think people just need clickbait, Like that's what the
- 13:28Speaker 3: world we live in these days. But I don't live
- 13:31Speaker 3: my life based off of that. I'm still gonna if
- 13:33Speaker 3: I'm hearing some music like I'm I'm.
- 13:36Speaker 5: A dance But you never have like kind of leaned
- 13:39Speaker 5: into all of that stuff though, Like you've always kind
- 13:41Speaker 5: of like just even if it was happening, you did
- 13:43Speaker 5: your own thing, but we didn't know what Like people
- 13:46Speaker 5: the clickbait stuff. So like even when you were dating
- 13:48Speaker 5: and Baroles now with Amy, just people are really invested
- 13:50Speaker 5: in your life because you're such a big start and
- 13:53Speaker 5: now your kids are growing up and they're on social
- 13:55Speaker 5: media as well too.
- 13:56Speaker 4: People just want to know things and they throw things
- 13:58Speaker 4: on Yeah.
- 13:59Speaker 1: I know I'm in control all of that though.
- 14:00Speaker 3: I give him enough to you know what I'm saying, Like,
- 14:03Speaker 3: like I said, I don't live my life based off
- 14:05Speaker 3: of it. Yeah, but I know that people are nosy,
- 14:08Speaker 3: like you haven't even seen my daughter and she's almost
- 14:10Speaker 3: a year old.
- 14:11Speaker 1: So I can keep some stuff quiet.
- 14:13Speaker 3: But this is the entertainment industry, so at the end
- 14:16Speaker 3: of the day, people are going to have their perception
- 14:19Speaker 3: of whatever whatever. But as long as my intentions are good,
- 14:22Speaker 3: I know I'm out here doing exactly what I'm supposed
- 14:24Speaker 3: to be doing, and nobody who really knows me and
- 14:27Speaker 3: loves me is ever going to be embarrassed by my
- 14:29Speaker 3: actions when I'm outside, So you can say whatever they
- 14:31Speaker 3: want to.
- 14:32Speaker 4: Yeah, you won't be doing nothing, you literally really do.
- 14:35Speaker 5: How do you talk to like a Sebastian's older getting
- 14:37Speaker 5: older now, which is crazy because it's just crazy to see.
- 14:41Speaker 2: Him get older.
- 14:42Speaker 4: No, but it's literally.
- 14:43Speaker 5: Like when you think about when he was first born
- 14:45Speaker 5: to now and just being a fan and watching him grow,
- 14:48Speaker 5: there's probably so much things that you guys decide when
- 14:50Speaker 5: to talk to him about or not talk to him about.
- 14:51Speaker 5: But your celebrity, so it's different. How do you kind
- 14:54Speaker 5: of like what is your discretion on, Like here's what
- 14:56Speaker 5: I allow him to know or see or whatever, because
- 14:59Speaker 5: you can't guard kids from it everything.
- 15:00Speaker 1: Yeah, we just keep it one hundred with him too.
- 15:02Speaker 3: He's a smart boy and these kids are we were
- 15:07Speaker 3: you know, grew up fast, but they're growing way faster
- 15:09Speaker 3: on the Internet and everything. So it's just about keeping
- 15:12Speaker 3: it real and you know, just allowing him to make
- 15:14Speaker 3: his own decisions as well. It's like I can tell
- 15:16Speaker 3: you what to do, but you know what's right and wrong,
- 15:20Speaker 3: and just instilling that in him. And also his friend
- 15:23Speaker 3: group too. That's a real big thing now, is his
- 15:25Speaker 3: friend group. But I feel like just him being a kid.
- 15:29Speaker 3: He's a normal kid. He goes through the same things
- 15:31Speaker 3: that normal kids go through. He gets in trouble at school.
- 15:34Speaker 3: We have to get on zoom calls with his teachers,
- 15:36Speaker 3: Like all of it's on a.
- 15:37Speaker 4: Zoom call with a teacher.
- 15:39Speaker 1: How is it?
- 15:39Speaker 5: Like, how did the teachers react. I mean they probably
- 15:41Speaker 5: used to celebrity parents.
- 15:42Speaker 1: They'd be cool.
- 15:42Speaker 3: They be chill, Like I think it helps him a
- 15:44Speaker 3: little bit more too, They're like, oh shit, we get
- 15:46Speaker 3: to see what here?
- 15:48Speaker 1: You can pass this class?
- 15:50Speaker 2: How is it being a father of a daughter, Now,
- 15:52Speaker 2: I got four daughters, got his daughter, so I know
- 15:55Speaker 2: daughters bring out a different energy.
- 15:57Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's it's super duper sweet. She's really young still,
- 16:01Speaker 3: she's only eight months, she'll be nine months, so her
- 16:06Speaker 3: personality hasn't come out yet.
- 16:08Speaker 1: But it is a little bit different having a little girl.
- 16:12Speaker 3: And I'm older now too, as apparently I was twenty
- 16:15Speaker 3: five when I had Bash. I'm thirty seven now, so
- 16:18Speaker 3: it's just like a whole different mind state, like having
- 16:21Speaker 3: a new child and it's a girl.
- 16:23Speaker 2: It was crazy to watch y'all all get older.
- 16:25Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I remember that.
- 16:27Speaker 4: Not kids get older.
- 16:29Speaker 2: I'm because you know what it is. And I don't
- 16:33Speaker 2: know if it's because of the Internet. I don't think
- 16:35Speaker 2: we've had another movement like that when I think about
- 16:39Speaker 2: the you and Nick Kendricks and.
- 16:41Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like twenty sixteen, like Uzzi and Cardy
- 16:44Speaker 3: and them, they.
- 16:46Speaker 4: Had a movement.
- 16:47Speaker 5: But I will say it's because I know what you
- 16:50Speaker 5: talking about with Uzzi, especially because I'm from Delaware, from Philly.
- 16:52Speaker 5: But it was it's still just different, like I can't
- 16:54Speaker 5: really describe it, Like the way that the whole tailor
- 16:57Speaker 5: gang and like how we were dressing.
- 16:59Speaker 4: It was really different.
- 17:00Speaker 2: But the kids are doing that tozi them now.
- 17:02Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we were the blog era.
- 17:06Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would say, like the SoundCloud air like
- 17:08Speaker 3: trippy red and all of them like SoundCloud, and then
- 17:12Speaker 3: now it's more like the TikTok like the viral.
- 17:15Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 17:17Speaker 3: Yeah, and then streamers as well, like you know, so, yeah,
- 17:21Speaker 3: we've had some good errors.
- 17:23Speaker 2: Man, I guess we don't know when the temperature changes
- 17:25Speaker 2: now because back in the day you could you can
- 17:27Speaker 2: see it on TV, you could hear it on radio.
- 17:29Speaker 2: Now in that kind of makes everything seem like it's
- 17:32Speaker 2: all yeah together, You don't you don't really see when
- 17:35Speaker 2: it's weird season or season. Nah.
- 17:37Speaker 3: See, I don't mean to keep disagreeing with you. I
- 17:41Speaker 3: think you just got to be tapped in. But that's
- 17:43Speaker 3: how it was back then too, Like you had to
- 17:45Speaker 3: be tapped in and know who the new up and
- 17:46Speaker 3: coming blog era rappers were, and then the older dudes
- 17:49Speaker 3: didn't really understand.
- 17:50Speaker 1: They're like, man, these dudes got on.
- 17:51Speaker 3: Tight pants and book bags like that ain't rap music,
- 17:55Speaker 3: so we look weird to them. It's just always the
- 17:58Speaker 3: next generation looks weird to the other general, so you
- 18:00Speaker 3: really don't like see them on their way up.
- 18:02Speaker 1: You really don't understand it.
- 18:03Speaker 2: Your pants, crazy.
- 18:04Speaker 1: Brow, your.
- 18:07Speaker 4: Essentially right now.
- 18:08Speaker 3: Back then those pants were tight h and them and
- 18:12Speaker 3: like American apparel getting like really tight hats.
- 18:15Speaker 4: You had the people going and doing it.
- 18:16Speaker 1: I remember with the.
- 18:20Speaker 3: US yeahs on like I'm shocked you had kids.
- 18:23Speaker 2: How tight they were?
- 18:24Speaker 1: Type of those pants were tight?
- 18:30Speaker 2: Bro, How often do you revisit the first Christian?
- 18:35Speaker 3: I say, I'm a lie before I answer a question.
- 18:37Speaker 3: I gotta stop doing that. You think that's smart, You're right.
- 18:41Speaker 1: I can't give it away though. Now. I listened to
- 18:45Speaker 1: it a lot because we perform it a lot.
- 18:47Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of like festivals and places where
- 18:49Speaker 3: they're like, can you come through and perform the whole
- 18:52Speaker 3: catalog or give us three songs off of there or
- 18:54Speaker 3: something like that. So I listened to it, and I
- 18:57Speaker 3: listened to it for inspiration too. Sometimes I like, I
- 19:00Speaker 3: sampled a couple of songs on this new one from
- 19:02Speaker 3: the old one. I like threw it in there you
- 19:04Speaker 3: wouldn't even know, but just to like keep the DNA.
- 19:07Speaker 4: There, Yeah, can you get can you tell me so
- 19:10Speaker 4: I can go?
- 19:11Speaker 1: You figure it out? Then I got to do it
- 19:12Speaker 1: again exactly and again and again because.
- 19:15Speaker 5: It feels literally I said that ear it feels like
- 19:17Speaker 5: the original cushion orangees even though it's new music.
- 19:20Speaker 4: But and a lot of artists can't do that, not
- 19:22Speaker 4: this far apart. H.
- 19:25Speaker 3: It's not it's not obvious stuff. It's nothing that you
- 19:27Speaker 3: would be like, oh, this is that. But if somebody
- 19:29Speaker 3: told you, you'd be like duh.
- 19:32Speaker 1: But what is it that you do that?
- 19:34Speaker 4: Is it the beat or the melody? Like what is
- 19:36Speaker 4: it that you hid in?
- 19:36Speaker 1: There's so many ways to manipulate music these days.
- 19:40Speaker 3: Yeah, we just we just really, like I said, we
- 19:43Speaker 3: updated it, like we use new formulas for the same
- 19:46Speaker 3: thing that we already have. Like and then my producers,
- 19:49Speaker 3: uh Cardo, it sound never went out of style. And
- 19:53Speaker 3: even with him producing with like Cardi and all of that,
- 19:57Speaker 3: he still has his original drum kits and stuff like that.
- 20:00Speaker 3: So he's just getting right back in his bag. Sledgering.
- 20:03Speaker 3: I work with Mike and Keys and Problem and DJ
- 20:05Speaker 3: Quick and just like throwing a lot of ideas around
- 20:09Speaker 3: to make something.
- 20:10Speaker 1: That you know, like you said, remind you of the original.
- 20:14Speaker 2: How much is LA an influence?
- 20:17Speaker 1: I would say.
- 20:20Speaker 3: The La, like the lifestyle of LA is an influence.
- 20:25Speaker 3: I love LA, but I'm not from La. So I
- 20:28Speaker 3: didn't grow up like wanting to be a West Coast dude,
- 20:32Speaker 3: Like that's just how I.
- 20:34Speaker 1: Am, you know what I mean.
- 20:35Speaker 3: And being from Pittsburgh, we would probably resonate the most
- 20:40Speaker 3: with some place like LA or the Bay or even
- 20:44Speaker 3: like Detroit, Chicago, like we have a lot in common
- 20:46Speaker 3: with them too, But I wouldn't necessarily say like I'm
- 20:50Speaker 3: LA influenced, but I'm definitely embraced in LA like a mom,
- 20:54Speaker 3: just because of the similarities like in the production and
- 20:58Speaker 3: the way that we talk and the way that we dress.
- 21:00Speaker 3: Like a lot of people associated me with being a
- 21:03Speaker 3: West Coast artist.
- 21:05Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the Snoop affiliation as well.
- 21:07Speaker 3: Yeah, the Snoop affiliation too, But that wasn't even just
- 21:10Speaker 3: like I wasn't like, yo, I need to be best
- 21:13Speaker 3: friends with Snoop Dogg. He heard my music and was like, man,
- 21:15Speaker 3: this dude's tight. He embraced me, you know what I mean.
- 21:19Speaker 3: Like so that was like that, I'm grateful as heck
- 21:23Speaker 3: for that, Like you know what I mean, Like did
- 21:26Speaker 3: that ever get.
- 21:26Speaker 5: On your nerves though, because like you're not from Like
- 21:28Speaker 5: did you ever feel like I needed because we I
- 21:31Speaker 5: think we all thought you were from.
- 21:33Speaker 4: Very long time.
- 21:35Speaker 5: Just the whole look, the whole vibe, like that's on
- 21:37Speaker 5: the East Coast. Like I feel like the way you sound,
- 21:39Speaker 5: your look everything. I didn't know that people over this
- 21:42Speaker 5: way at all could look or emulate that, Like I
- 21:45Speaker 5: thought you had to go to La to look.
- 21:46Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the thing. I wasn't even emulate nothing.
- 21:49Speaker 1: That's just how I am. Like that's just what I
- 21:51Speaker 1: be on.
- 21:51Speaker 3: Like there's pictures of me in high school on the
- 21:53Speaker 3: same vibe, and I listened to Dipset.
- 21:56Speaker 1: Like that's my favorite group.
- 21:58Speaker 3: Yeah, like Camera on my favorite So yeah, I just
- 22:02Speaker 3: love I mean, like I think it's just my demeanor.
- 22:06Speaker 3: My swagger remind people more like West Coast smoking weed
- 22:09Speaker 3: for sure, being tatted, you know a lot of those things,
- 22:13Speaker 3: like the Chucks like you're saying, like you associate that
- 22:18Speaker 3: with people from the West Coast. And then my beat
- 22:20Speaker 3: selection too, is real funky, like it's more like top down,
- 22:23Speaker 3: right around type of music. And I think that came
- 22:27Speaker 3: more into play for me hanging out with currency, like
- 22:30Speaker 3: just being in New Orleans, we would just be more
- 22:33Speaker 3: on some smooth vibe type stuff rather than like really
- 22:37Speaker 3: turned up or trapped out type of music, and that
- 22:40Speaker 3: just became the you know, the style of beats that
- 22:42Speaker 3: you know, we both kind of went after.
- 22:44Speaker 2: I love how you keep Max B's name a lot.
- 22:46Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 22:47Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on the new project. Yeah.
- 22:48Speaker 1: He's also one of my favorite artists as well. Yeah.
- 22:51Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh did you speak to them?
- 22:52Speaker 1: You said?
- 22:53Speaker 3: How often do I here and there? Yeah, especially now
- 22:57Speaker 3: that the album's coming out and he's coming home too. Yeah,
- 23:01Speaker 3: we talk here and there. It's nothing too crazy to
- 23:03Speaker 3: just be like, I see big bro.
- 23:05Speaker 2: How Didy'll get them on the project over the phone. Yeah,
- 23:07Speaker 2: that's just not good as that would be a yeah.
- 23:10Speaker 3: Yeah, well the voice notes. It's easy to do it
- 23:13Speaker 3: on voice notes now and then just line it up.
- 23:15Speaker 3: Like I told you, we manipulated music these days.
- 23:17Speaker 2: So you take your vocal, didn't put the beat behind it.
- 23:20Speaker 3: I don't want people to start getting their friends in
- 23:23Speaker 3: jail on their records.
- 23:25Speaker 2: The whole album.
- 23:28Speaker 1: I don't know how much. I don't know, but don't
- 23:31Speaker 1: do it. They out of trouble.
- 23:35Speaker 2: The other thing I was gonna say too, Man, do
- 23:38Speaker 2: you see the moments in your life when like your
- 23:41Speaker 2: courage just went up, Like, for example, like when you
- 23:43Speaker 2: put out weed and boys, that's another level. You put
- 23:46Speaker 2: out uh the other black and yellow, that's another level,
- 23:50Speaker 2: and then see you again.
- 23:52Speaker 1: Come on.
- 23:53Speaker 2: That's every white person in America's favorite funeral.
- 23:56Speaker 1: Anthem favorite funeral. It is. Yeah, No, I think I had.
- 24:00Speaker 6: Uh.
- 24:01Speaker 1: I look at my career like like a basketball.
- 24:03Speaker 3: Player or something like that, like me being signed to Atlantic.
- 24:06Speaker 3: I did really well, like being a major artist. So
- 24:10Speaker 3: I look at it like that.
- 24:11Speaker 5: You just recently sold your home in Pittsburgh too, Yeah
- 24:13Speaker 5: all that the decision to do that, why just because
- 24:17Speaker 5: it was time or like because I know it's you know,
- 24:18Speaker 5: that was a that was when you were on your
- 24:21Speaker 5: come up and you know, like letting that go.
- 24:23Speaker 3: Yeah, why because I just had my daughter and I
- 24:26Speaker 3: wanted to move my mom out to LA. She was
- 24:28Speaker 3: tired of she was staying in that house. She was
- 24:30Speaker 3: just tired of being there.
- 24:31Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 24:31Speaker 1: Wow, it wasn't like a bad house.
- 24:33Speaker 4: No, no, it's a nice house.
- 24:34Speaker 5: I just can't believe she hasn't already like moved to
- 24:37Speaker 5: LA at this point now, because.
- 24:39Speaker 2: You know, you got it's hard to get older people
- 24:41Speaker 2: to move out.
- 24:42Speaker 3: Of there, it is, I mean, yeah, just being from Pittsburgh,
- 24:44Speaker 3: like you know, She moved around a lot when we
- 24:47Speaker 3: were younger because of the military. So when she got
- 24:49Speaker 3: back to the burg, like she was just there, like
- 24:51Speaker 3: she was set up there. And when I left, that
- 24:53Speaker 3: was me leaving as an adult. But we hadn't lived
- 24:56Speaker 3: in the same city in a long time. So when
- 24:59Speaker 3: I had my daughter, she wanted to move out to
- 25:01Speaker 3: LA and it just made sense. Just go ahead and
- 25:04Speaker 3: you know, move on to the next chapter.
- 25:06Speaker 4: And she with y'all now living with y'all, doesn't live.
- 25:09Speaker 1: With me in LA.
- 25:10Speaker 3: She has her own house and you know, we're in
- 25:14Speaker 3: a good distance from each other where we see each
- 25:16Speaker 3: other all the time.
- 25:17Speaker 5: Okay, because I know people do that when they first
- 25:19Speaker 5: have babies, like just to get the extra help, have
- 25:21Speaker 5: mom there and just kind of step in.
- 25:22Speaker 1: It's pretty much like that. But she she has her
- 25:24Speaker 1: own spot, you know what I'm saying.
- 25:26Speaker 3: And it's super duper convenient because, like I said, I
- 25:29Speaker 3: haven't lived in the same city as my mom in
- 25:31Speaker 3: like fifteen years. So I'll be driving out of my
- 25:35Speaker 3: house and she'll be coming through the gates. So it's
- 25:36Speaker 3: super cool to just see my mom like randomly during
- 25:39Speaker 3: the day.
- 25:40Speaker 2: What you get with her grandkids yeah, she loves it.
- 25:42Speaker 1: Yo, she's like full time OG.
- 25:44Speaker 2: How do you feel about your children being open to
- 25:47Speaker 2: public scrutiny like motherfuckers on social media commenting?
- 25:51Speaker 1: And yeah, no, it is what it is like.
- 25:54Speaker 3: I feel like they're going to go through that anyway
- 25:56Speaker 3: at school, Like they guys snapchat and they be doing
- 26:00Speaker 3: all that stuff at school. So that's just the world
- 26:02Speaker 3: that we live in now. And like back in the day,
- 26:05Speaker 3: we used to rip on each other too, so we
- 26:07Speaker 3: just didn't have the computer to do it. But it
- 26:10Speaker 3: builds tough skin and it is what it is like.
- 26:12Speaker 3: I've always been able to still be confident in myself
- 26:16Speaker 3: and function and not crash out, you know, due to
- 26:20Speaker 3: what anybody says about me.
- 26:21Speaker 1: So I feel like they'll be all right.
- 26:23Speaker 2: If it's the week whenever you feel yourself about the
- 26:25Speaker 2: crash out or like no, no, no.
- 26:27Speaker 3: No, it's not the weirdest the confidence man, I breathe,
- 26:30Speaker 3: I do yoga, I believe in myself. I got a
- 26:33Speaker 3: higher calling. Yeah, and sometimes they might be right. I
- 26:37Speaker 3: do look funny sometimes my.
- 26:39Speaker 1: Feet my feet are ugly or not ugly but messed up.
- 26:42Speaker 3: But like you can't get mad at like you know,
- 26:45Speaker 3: people pointing out your flaws because we're not perfect. So
- 26:48Speaker 3: if you point out a flaw, you might be right.
- 26:49Speaker 2: So you practice yoga.
- 26:51Speaker 1: I do hot yoga too. It'll be one hundred and
- 26:53Speaker 1: thirty degrees in there.
- 26:54Speaker 2: I did that shit a couple of a couple of
- 26:55Speaker 2: I did like a week and a half ago with
- 26:57Speaker 2: my wife. I couldn't. I did it, But that's shit.
- 27:00Speaker 1: It is yoga.
- 27:01Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like some old ladies in there. They go
- 27:04Speaker 3: every day. I'm like, y'all are gangster. They might do
- 27:06Speaker 3: it three times in one day.
- 27:08Speaker 4: I'm like, that's really gangsta.
- 27:11Speaker 2: But the thing I didn't like about it, they don't
- 27:12Speaker 2: give you no tutorial like you gotta. It's like you're
- 27:15Speaker 2: just just like double Dutch word up. It's just like
- 27:17Speaker 2: your hold up, what you mean do this?
- 27:19Speaker 3: It means it's more of a flow. Yeah, it's a flow.
- 27:22Speaker 3: So you watch everybody around you. You can look at
- 27:24Speaker 3: the instructor, you can look at you know, whoever makes
- 27:27Speaker 3: you comfortable in the room. Like you said you was
- 27:28Speaker 3: with your partner, so she probably went a couple of times,
- 27:31Speaker 3: so you get, you know, fill it out.
- 27:33Speaker 1: But it just helps you let go.
- 27:35Speaker 3: And there's a lot of stuff that you probably won't
- 27:37Speaker 3: be able to do it for a long time, but
- 27:39Speaker 3: you'll start to see progress.
- 27:41Speaker 1: And that's what it's about too. It's just about learning yourself.
- 27:43Speaker 2: Why don't you talk about stuff like that? I do?
- 27:46Speaker 3: I said, I said it in my song. I was
- 27:48Speaker 3: like she working out, we're doing yoga and hiking. I said,
- 27:51Speaker 3: I say it in my music and the new music hiking.
- 27:53Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I say it.
- 27:56Speaker 3: But like there's ways to do it and wrap me
- 28:00Speaker 3: music because at my age, people will quickly call you
- 28:04Speaker 3: unk and al yeah, no, no, no, I think said that.
- 28:09Speaker 1: He said, don't call me unk, call me big dog.
- 28:11Speaker 1: That's the.
- 28:15Speaker 4: Y'all are not giving unk. He gives unk. Y'all don't
- 28:17Speaker 4: give no.
- 28:18Speaker 1: I'm not unk. I could be unk. But if I'm
- 28:20Speaker 1: unk and I'm calling you nephew.
- 28:21Speaker 2: And you don't and you don't want me to do that,
- 28:23Speaker 2: three years, once you hit forty, you officially, well, them
- 28:27Speaker 2: is going to be my nephews.
- 28:28Speaker 3: Then that's a lot of people. That's what I'm saying though,
- 28:31Speaker 3: But like they want to be they don't want to
- 28:33Speaker 3: be nephews. So don't call me unk, but them, there's
- 28:37Speaker 3: not wrong with being a un because un sign of respect.
- 28:40Speaker 3: But the the derogatory term of it is just like
- 28:45Speaker 3: out of style, out of day. We don't want to
- 28:48Speaker 3: hear that slow, you know, to not it's just in
- 28:54Speaker 3: a way that they're like, all right, you know what
- 28:56Speaker 3: I mean. It's not like advice that they really want
- 28:59Speaker 3: to like live up to. And that's what I'm putting
- 29:02Speaker 3: it in a form and in a way where I'm
- 29:04Speaker 3: packaging it where you still can see yourself doing this
- 29:07Speaker 3: in the next couple of years. You could be twenty
- 29:09Speaker 3: three and listen to my music and be like, I'm
- 29:12Speaker 3: just a little bit more advanced.
- 29:14Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just you know what I mean, I'm
- 29:17Speaker 1: on a different vibe. I'm on another level.
- 29:19Speaker 3: And then a lot of the stuff that I say
- 29:20Speaker 3: too is personal to me, so it's not even really
- 29:23Speaker 3: for you to actually go out and do. I'm just explaining,
- 29:27Speaker 3: you know, the things that are important to me, and
- 29:30Speaker 3: I hope that inspires you.
- 29:31Speaker 2: So, you know, kids, respect though, respect it's like old
- 29:35Speaker 2: nigga old ahead, yeah, old head, oldhead still okay o,
- 29:39Speaker 2: g oh head still.
- 29:40Speaker 4: And you know how you say oh head.
- 29:41Speaker 5: Like if you're like yo, oh hey, that's that's disrespectful me.
- 29:43Speaker 3: Like, yo oh hey, whatever's yo old head is like
- 29:47Speaker 3: that sounded real fragile, like.
- 29:53Speaker 4: Get out of the way from laid out in the
- 29:56Speaker 4: street or.
- 29:57Speaker 5: Something like that.
- 29:59Speaker 1: No, I love getting older. I think certain people get
- 30:03Speaker 1: better when they get older.
- 30:04Speaker 3: They start to you know, different stages of their life,
- 30:08Speaker 3: reveals things that their twenties and thirties never have. So
- 30:12Speaker 3: I think that, you know, I'm pretty much on my
- 30:14Speaker 3: way to that, and I'm enjoying myself, like at the
- 30:17Speaker 3: age that I'm at. I love being this age.
- 30:19Speaker 1: I love telling people my age and then being like
- 30:22Speaker 1: damn because it catches a lot of people off guard.
- 30:25Speaker 1: But it is what it is though.
- 30:26Speaker 2: But that's what I like about you opening up about
- 30:29Speaker 2: the yoga and the hiking and whatever other mindfulness things.
- 30:32Speaker 2: You may be right because you talk about how first
- 30:35Speaker 2: chrishion Ards juice influenced the generation of stoners. I'm like, well, damn,
- 30:38Speaker 2: what's this part two gonna influence?
- 30:41Speaker 1: See that's the thing about the first Christian orange juice.
- 30:45Speaker 3: It did inspire a lot of stoners, but it created
- 30:48Speaker 3: a lot of bosses too. A lot of people bossed
- 30:51Speaker 3: up and did things on their own and put their
- 30:53Speaker 3: teams on and they're successful now based off of listening
- 30:56Speaker 3: to Cushion Orange Juice or that era, a lot of
- 30:59Speaker 3: people was like, Yo, I'm grab a camera or I'm
- 31:01Speaker 3: gonna start promoting shows, or I'm gonna start a clothing
- 31:04Speaker 3: line or I'm gonna start a blog or whatever whatever,
- 31:07Speaker 3: and they're still like they're successful. So like that's what
- 31:10Speaker 3: kush norms used to is gonna do as well. It's
- 31:12Speaker 3: positive thinking. It ain't hunk, So it's gonna spark you
- 31:17Speaker 3: know a lot of bosses, a lot of young players
- 31:19Speaker 3: and a lot of women who boss up as well
- 31:22Speaker 3: and expect you know, the same from you know what
- 31:25Speaker 3: I mean. So it's just going to create a really
- 31:28Speaker 3: a really cool energy for people to creat And.
- 31:31Speaker 1: That's what I want.
- 31:31Speaker 5: You said, getting older, you're getting better at things. What
- 31:33Speaker 5: have you gotten better at?
- 31:35Speaker 3: Uh? Physically, I've gotten better, decision making, I've gotten better,
- 31:41Speaker 3: patience wise, I've gotten better, creatively, I've gotten better and
- 31:46Speaker 3: just as all around, like human being.
- 31:48Speaker 1: Like that's that's my main focus.
- 31:50Speaker 3: Like when I was younger, I was focused on being
- 31:53Speaker 3: the best artist or the best performer or the flyes nigga,
- 31:57Speaker 3: like now I just care about being adope, being like
- 32:00Speaker 3: and being happy for that day. Like, that's all I
- 32:03Speaker 3: care about. As long as I'm happy at this moment
- 32:05Speaker 3: in this day, I'm good. And I try to live
- 32:08Speaker 3: every day like we'll not try to live every day.
- 32:10Speaker 1: I do live every day like that.
- 32:12Speaker 5: Since you like, there are people that are younger than you,
- 32:15Speaker 5: just in music that I'm sure call you about different things,
- 32:17Speaker 5: because creatively your music does inspire people like you mentioned,
- 32:20Speaker 5: but like, just as a dad and in a relationship,
- 32:22Speaker 5: a lot of your stuff is public. Like I saw
- 32:24Speaker 5: a conversation an interview where I think it was Ambert.
- 32:28Speaker 5: She was talking about you guys had to sit down
- 32:30Speaker 5: Sebastian have a conversation he found her only fans or
- 32:32Speaker 5: something like that. How do you guide first of all
- 32:35Speaker 5: yourself and have that conversation with your son, But when
- 32:37Speaker 5: your friends your peers are calling you like yo, my
- 32:40Speaker 5: girl's doing this online or like whatever, what's your conversation
- 32:43Speaker 5: with people? Because you handle things so well and so gracefully.
- 32:45Speaker 3: Nah, I think I don't. I don't expect everybody to
- 32:51Speaker 3: handle things the way that I do. So my advice
- 32:55Speaker 3: is sometimes is like man, shit be.
- 32:57Speaker 1: Fucked up dog like, that's it. That's just how it is.
- 33:01Speaker 3: But you have to accept it and you have to
- 33:03Speaker 3: understand that that's a part of it as well. And
- 33:07Speaker 3: it be like that sometimes. But we make these decisions
- 33:10Speaker 3: based off of what we think we can handle and
- 33:13Speaker 3: what we can't handle. So or you're given a lot
- 33:16Speaker 3: of responsibility based off of what you can handle and
- 33:18Speaker 3: you don't even know you ready for it like that.
- 33:21Speaker 3: So if you really want this, you're gonna deal with
- 33:24Speaker 3: the good.
- 33:24Speaker 1: And the bad. Like I'm built for it.
- 33:26Speaker 3: I know how to smile, I know how to you know,
- 33:28Speaker 3: put on a face in front of people who I
- 33:30Speaker 3: know might have talked shit on me or tried to
- 33:33Speaker 3: cut my throat or one up on you know what
- 33:35Speaker 3: I mean.
- 33:35Speaker 1: But it is what it is.
- 33:36Speaker 3: Well, I don't get no further by exposing all of that.
- 33:38Speaker 3: I get further just by being me. But a lot
- 33:41Speaker 3: of people ain't built for it like that.
- 33:43Speaker 5: So you know, you really you really got to be
- 33:45Speaker 5: like that as a parent, Are you ever really ready
- 33:47Speaker 5: to have those like really public conversations with us, Like
- 33:51Speaker 5: that's such a public thing to have to talk about
- 33:52Speaker 5: in your child to see, and then in private you
- 33:54Speaker 5: have to deal with it. But then also in public,
- 33:56Speaker 5: you have to deal with it because then y'all talk
- 33:57Speaker 5: about the fact that it happened.
- 33:58Speaker 1: I think, like.
- 34:01Speaker 3: Me, I just keep it pushing, like as long as
- 34:03Speaker 3: I'm good, Like in the household, you're gonna have to
- 34:07Speaker 3: deal with that or things like that, regardless if it's
- 34:10Speaker 3: not even directly involved with you. You're still gonna have
- 34:13Speaker 3: to have some type of conversation like that with your kid.
- 34:16Speaker 3: And it's not easy for anybody. So as soon as
- 34:19Speaker 3: they start finding that stuff or looking at that stuff
- 34:22Speaker 3: or hearing things about you know, it might be their parent,
- 34:25Speaker 3: it might be their sibling, it might be you know
- 34:27Speaker 3: what I mean, it could be whatever.
- 34:28Speaker 1: There's no age limit to that.
- 34:30Speaker 3: Either it happens through their teens, it's gonna happen in
- 34:33Speaker 3: their twenties.
- 34:33Speaker 1: Oh I heard your son is out here. Da da
- 34:36Speaker 1: da da da. Right.
- 34:37Speaker 3: I don't even know what that's like yet, But we
- 34:41Speaker 3: go through the stages. Every parent's gonna go through the stage.
- 34:44Speaker 3: But as far as publicly, I don't live my life
- 34:47Speaker 3: for the public, so I don't even like, I don't
- 34:49Speaker 3: even consider that when I'm making my moves.
- 34:52Speaker 1: I don't care like I don't hear it, I don't
- 34:54Speaker 1: digest it. It's not it ain't real to me.
- 34:57Speaker 3: And if it pops up, then it's something that I
- 35:00Speaker 3: you know what I mean, I'll deal with it in
- 35:01Speaker 3: the moment, but like I ain't tripping on.
- 35:03Speaker 1: None of that.
- 35:04Speaker 2: Are you going to keep secrets from your kids?
- 35:07Speaker 1: What kind of secrets? Just in general?
- 35:09Speaker 2: Like you know, always tell people that you know, you
- 35:11Speaker 2: should always have conversations with your parents because you'll find
- 35:13Speaker 2: out that they had a life before they were your parents.
- 35:16Speaker 1: Yeah, I think having how old are your kids?
- 35:19Speaker 2: Sixteen nine sixty three.
- 35:21Speaker 3: Yeah, having a twelve year old, it's like I'm finding
- 35:24Speaker 3: out that they know way more than.
- 35:26Speaker 1: You actually think that they know.
- 35:28Speaker 3: So it's hard to keep secrets when they're telling you
- 35:30Speaker 3: shit that they know that you thought that they didn't know.
- 35:34Speaker 3: So it's like, damn you, there ain't no secrets, like
- 35:37Speaker 3: for real, for real you I'm I didn't even know
- 35:39Speaker 3: I was going to have to explain that to you.
- 35:40Speaker 3: But it's just part of it, like because I think
- 35:45Speaker 3: the benefit of that is them not having to hear
- 35:47Speaker 3: it from somebody else. I was raised by my cousins,
- 35:50Speaker 3: and you know what, I mean a bunch of eighteen
- 35:52Speaker 3: year olds and twenty year olds when I was his age,
- 35:55Speaker 3: so I was learning things a little bit differently, Like
- 35:57Speaker 3: the filter was totally different. So I would rather be
- 36:00Speaker 3: able to give my kids.
- 36:02Speaker 1: That knowledge than like the streets. Yeah, hell yeah, because
- 36:06Speaker 1: it's gonna happen.
- 36:07Speaker 2: What is a drake move with?
- 36:12Speaker 3: What's what's a drake? A very smart business decision? I know,
- 36:18Speaker 3: that's right, That's what a drake move is.
- 36:27Speaker 2: You know what I want to ask you to, man,
- 36:30Speaker 2: You've been a mentor to a lot of great people.
- 36:32Speaker 2: And I recently saw this thing called the Mount Rushmore
- 36:35Speaker 2: White rappers and the good brother mac Miller was on it.
- 36:39Speaker 1: You know how.
- 36:39Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw it, but how did
- 36:41Speaker 2: that make you feel? Knowing that you was a mentor
- 36:43Speaker 2: to He's the greatest rapper was Eminem, it was mac Miller.
- 36:46Speaker 1: They shouldn't be separating white rappers and black rappers. They're
- 36:50Speaker 1: all rappers.
- 36:51Speaker 3: And mc miller is an amazing artist, bro, Like I
- 36:54Speaker 3: watched some you know, come from just being a kid
- 36:57Speaker 3: in the studio to like really changing how people digest
- 37:01Speaker 3: and listen to music, like on his own And of
- 37:05Speaker 3: course we started he started like kind of after I
- 37:09Speaker 3: was doing what I was doing, so it was people
- 37:12Speaker 3: associated me and him together like like.
- 37:14Speaker 1: I was doing that for him or something like that.
- 37:16Speaker 3: But he was just inspired by what he was around,
- 37:18Speaker 3: and as soon as he like branched off and started
- 37:21Speaker 3: doing his thing, he gained his own identity, his own
- 37:24Speaker 3: fan base, his own expectations of what his music is,
- 37:28Speaker 3: and his own you know, love and legacy for what
- 37:30Speaker 3: his music is.
- 37:31Speaker 1: So I love I love that kid.
- 37:33Speaker 2: I don't even know if this is a question you
- 37:34Speaker 2: can answer, But what are you and Mac? What do
- 37:37Speaker 2: y'all mean to Pittsburgh? You and Mac in particular case,
- 37:41Speaker 2: I can't think of anybody else who was big as
- 37:43Speaker 2: either one of you in Pittsburgh.
- 37:45Speaker 3: There's a lot of people like big on a street level,
- 37:48Speaker 3: like Jimmy Woppo, Like there's a lot of people.
- 37:51Speaker 1: But I think to Pittsburgh, I don't even know. I mean,
- 37:59Speaker 1: we're just Mac and Withiz that's it. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
- 38:02Speaker 1: you got to.
- 38:02Speaker 2: Be inspiring the whole city in somewhere.
- 38:04Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're the first who else would I've
- 38:08Speaker 4: known from Pittsburgh.
- 38:09Speaker 3: I think it's like, yeah, as far as music and
- 38:12Speaker 3: as far as on that level, like traveling the world
- 38:15Speaker 3: doing collabse with major artists.
- 38:19Speaker 1: Yeah, me and Mac for Shore.
- 38:21Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it's been it's been seven years since macpast.
- 38:24Speaker 2: Do you have those moments where you like, Mac not here?
- 38:30Speaker 1: It kind of still bothers me, just because it's like
- 38:33Speaker 1: he's not here, you know what I mean.
- 38:35Speaker 3: And that's the that's the part that sucks because it
- 38:38Speaker 3: happened like close to my birthday. So every time it's
- 38:40Speaker 3: around my birthday, they celebrating them, well you know, celebrating
- 38:44Speaker 3: his life too, so I'm always reminded.
- 38:46Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, bro, Like that one.
- 38:49Speaker 3: That was just like it's like sometimes when people past,
- 38:51Speaker 3: it's like, Yo, that's fucked up, bro, Like yeah, you
- 38:54Speaker 3: never really it never really sit sits well, like you
- 38:57Speaker 3: know what I mean.
- 38:58Speaker 2: So that's one of them to shift anything in your life.
- 39:02Speaker 3: Nah, not really, because I knew him personally, so we
- 39:05Speaker 3: would have conversations and you know, he was like I think,
- 39:08Speaker 3: out of respect, everybody don't speak on like how what
- 39:13Speaker 3: he was dealing with, you know what I'm saying, So
- 39:15Speaker 3: we just like talk about his legacy. But it was
- 39:20Speaker 3: it was it was a lot to see him go
- 39:22Speaker 3: through that.
- 39:23Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, just legacy conversations wise, what were some like
- 39:26Speaker 5: what conversations still stick out to you that y'all had
- 39:28Speaker 5: you and Macnilla.
- 39:29Speaker 3: Really just how talented he was, like just playing all
- 39:32Speaker 3: the instruments and like in the studio creating like he
- 39:35Speaker 3: created totally different than I did. And just watching him
- 39:40Speaker 3: like put stuff together or like bring his ideas to life.
- 39:43Speaker 3: That was really fun for me. And like seeing him
- 39:45Speaker 3: on stage too. He is a really good performer as well.
- 39:48Speaker 7: Yeah, just to see you smile mm hmm. Was that
- 39:51Speaker 7: a difficult record? No, okay, No, I like to make
- 39:56Speaker 7: like I like to make real songs. Yeah, yeah, it was,
- 40:00Speaker 7: Like I said, it was in a moment, and I
- 40:03Speaker 7: talk about my mom on there. I talk about like
- 40:06Speaker 7: the original like what was going on when I first
- 40:08Speaker 7: started making music and I brought it till now, and
- 40:10Speaker 7: then I talk.
- 40:11Speaker 3: About my siblings who passed away on there as well.
- 40:13Speaker 3: So no, it's not difficult for me.
- 40:15Speaker 2: Is it therapeutic in a way?
- 40:17Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 40:18Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will say that. I think it's
- 40:20Speaker 3: just like for me, I have to talk about everything,
- 40:22Speaker 3: like I can't just I can't.
- 40:24Speaker 1: Just give you like one side of like what's going.
- 40:27Speaker 3: On, and a lot of people they may or may
- 40:31Speaker 3: not want to hear that, But for the people who do,
- 40:35Speaker 3: I make sure that that stuff is there, and I
- 40:37Speaker 3: make sure that it's current and that it's real for
- 40:40Speaker 3: them to go through too.
- 40:42Speaker 2: The thing I like about you Will is like you
- 40:44Speaker 2: I've never seen you do no goofy shit fifteen years
- 40:49Speaker 2: and that's hard being an artist of your caliber, how
- 40:52Speaker 2: do you keep from doing goofy?
- 40:54Speaker 4: And of your age too.
- 40:55Speaker 3: You were young, I think, being from Pigs, got done
- 41:00Speaker 3: all my goofy shit before the camera was on, so
- 41:04Speaker 3: like I didn't need to, you know, get to my
- 41:07Speaker 3: twenties and you know, learn.
- 41:10Speaker 1: Those same lessons.
- 41:11Speaker 3: I was on some bars shit, and everybody around me
- 41:14Speaker 3: you gotta be on my boss level or like we
- 41:16Speaker 3: can't communicate. And that was the main thing, is like,
- 41:20Speaker 3: you know, not only elevating my mind, but elevating the
- 41:23Speaker 3: minds of the people around me, and just taking it
- 41:26Speaker 3: to the next level and continuing to take it to
- 41:28Speaker 3: the next level.
- 41:28Speaker 1: Because I could have.
- 41:30Speaker 3: Got to a point where I was satisfied, but I
- 41:32Speaker 3: was like, now I'm gonna keep working, I'm gonna keep going,
- 41:34Speaker 3: and even at this point, now I see things that
- 41:37Speaker 3: people don't even see for myself. So these are the
- 41:40Speaker 3: things that I'm going after while I'm doing what I'm doing.
- 41:43Speaker 2: Even the team, you know, I see Will's still around.
- 41:45Speaker 2: You know, you got Chevy Woods on the as, Juicy's
- 41:48Speaker 2: on the AS. Like it's like tie, Like does that
- 41:52Speaker 2: all keep you grounded in a way?
- 41:54Speaker 3: I mean that's yeah, that's really who's in my phone,
- 41:57Speaker 3: like all the homies. Like I don't hang out with
- 42:00Speaker 3: you know, new people. I don't hang out with a
- 42:02Speaker 3: lot of artists. I don't hang out with like people
- 42:06Speaker 3: who do things in their city that is, you know
- 42:11Speaker 3: like that. I don't be in niggas hoods like that.
- 42:15Speaker 3: I just I be with my my team, my dogs,
- 42:17Speaker 3: I create content.
- 42:18Speaker 1: I be in the studio, I be with my kids.
- 42:20Speaker 1: I be in a gym.
- 42:22Speaker 3: So like there, mister, people who do that stuff with me.
- 42:25Speaker 3: And that's why the album is what it is like
- 42:28Speaker 3: with the group of people who it is. And even
- 42:31Speaker 3: even even with Gunner on the album, like Gunna is, yeah,
- 42:35Speaker 3: he's partners with some of my my real homies. So
- 42:38Speaker 3: like we just never got in the studio and recorded,
- 42:42Speaker 3: but we felt like, you know, this would be a
- 42:44Speaker 3: good time to do something like that, but it wasn't.
- 42:46Speaker 1: It's never you know, you know how the industry is. Yeah,
- 42:53Speaker 1: it's not like that with me.
- 42:54Speaker 2: People can't get First of all, Gun is super talented
- 42:57Speaker 2: number one, and you you're not. You're not a street
- 42:59Speaker 2: artartists never have that exactly. But they can't give you
- 43:03Speaker 2: no flak for that.
- 43:03Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't associate with all of that.
- 43:06Speaker 1: That stuff, I don't. That doesn't dictate anything when I'm
- 43:09Speaker 1: making my decisions. So I'm we're not on that.
- 43:12Speaker 5: People try because I didn't see that, what try to
- 43:15Speaker 5: give you flat for working with going on another project?
- 43:17Speaker 1: If they did, I didn't see it either.
- 43:19Speaker 2: Okay, is that baby bottom.
- 43:21Speaker 1: On you a baby bottom? Dots are spraaking, Yeah, it doesn't.
- 43:28Speaker 4: Look like a baby bottle.
- 43:30Speaker 7: The coy fish still on the other side's still there.
- 43:35Speaker 1: You remember when you Yeah, you're trying. You're trying to
- 43:38Speaker 1: go viral again.
- 43:39Speaker 4: No, I wasn't here. What happened, no matter it met.
- 43:43Speaker 1: An old joke, this new ship period.
- 43:48Speaker 2: Hey whe is man, Keep doing what you do. Man,
- 43:50Speaker 2: you are a blueprint. Thank you, whether people realize it
- 43:54Speaker 2: or not. App you know what I'm saying from the
- 43:56Speaker 2: music aspect even to the entrepreneur aspect. You got strange,
- 44:00Speaker 2: you got mushrooms.
- 44:01Speaker 1: You got liquid Death.
- 44:03Speaker 2: Liquid look with Death, so brand for you?
- 44:08Speaker 1: Oh my god?
- 44:11Speaker 2: Explain that. How did you get involved early.
- 44:13Speaker 1: Before they even took off?
- 44:14Speaker 3: Like it was like hey, boom boom bam and the
- 44:17Speaker 3: whole business thing and the whole you be a part
- 44:21Speaker 3: of this, we do that and lick with Death. Yeah,
- 44:26Speaker 3: this was Yeah, I've been I've been a part of
- 44:29Speaker 3: this company almost ten years now.
- 44:31Speaker 4: Liquid Death.
- 44:32Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 44:33Speaker 2: Wow, that ship everywhere.
- 44:35Speaker 5: Yes, that's so everywhere. The first time I saw it,
- 44:37Speaker 5: I was like, what, why are you drinking that? And
- 44:39Speaker 5: then they explained that it was water yeah, and I
- 44:41Speaker 5: was like, oh okay. But even the can in the
- 44:43Speaker 5: way that is branded, it just fits your whole esthetic. Yeah,
- 44:46Speaker 5: that's what else do you do business wise on the
- 44:47Speaker 5: back end at Like I mean, if you want to
- 44:49Speaker 5: talk about it, like, there's a whole portfolio back there
- 44:52Speaker 5: that the people might not like.
- 44:53Speaker 3: You said McQueen, but we we're part of that whole
- 44:56Speaker 3: company though, the whole Ducet and bel Air and all
- 44:59Speaker 3: of that.
- 45:05Speaker 5: A frog When you say a part of the company
- 45:07Speaker 5: there's ownership there are you because I know you have
- 45:09Speaker 5: the alcoholic brands, but yeah, that's what.
- 45:11Speaker 1: We're talking about. Yeah, there's ownership there.
- 45:13Speaker 3: It's like it's like with business and being a part
- 45:17Speaker 3: of companies and having some of these companies aren't even
- 45:20Speaker 3: you know, public yet. So you buy into companies, you
- 45:23Speaker 3: have ownership, you have percentage.
- 45:25Speaker 1: There's a lot of different.
- 45:26Speaker 3: Ways to you know, become a part owner or just
- 45:29Speaker 3: be a part of a business without starting it. And
- 45:33Speaker 3: that's where you know, the best the best decisions come in.
- 45:37Speaker 3: And it's all about timing too. Oh, p f L
- 45:39Speaker 3: as well. I don't know if you guys ever heard
- 45:40Speaker 3: of Professional Fighters League, but I'm involved with them too.
- 45:43Speaker 3: We just bought Bellator's and UFC and there's PFL. That's yeah, yeah,
- 45:48Speaker 3: I'm down with them too.
- 45:50Speaker 2: And you gotta fight in one of those.
- 45:52Speaker 1: No, I don't think I'm a fighter. I don't think amateur.
- 45:55Speaker 2: You built for that.
- 45:56Speaker 3: I'm definitely built for it, But I don't want to
- 45:58Speaker 3: do it, like that's not what I trained or I
- 46:00Speaker 3: just trained to feel good.
- 46:01Speaker 1: I don't.
- 46:02Speaker 3: I don't train to you know, risk my life. Those
- 46:04Speaker 3: dudes risk their lives in there. Like somebody could die,
- 46:07Speaker 3: and like what's the point of me getting in there
- 46:09Speaker 3: and like risking half of my face not working to
- 46:13Speaker 3: just to you know what I mean, entertain everybody.
- 46:15Speaker 1: Like what I do is on stage and I'm good
- 46:19Speaker 1: with that.
- 46:19Speaker 2: Like my celebrity squabbles though, like just to keep people
- 46:22Speaker 2: out of trouble. Like I saw too Damn, who was it?
- 46:25Speaker 2: I just seen two rappers square up?
- 46:27Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 46:28Speaker 3: I think I think like rappers should meet in the
- 46:30Speaker 3: gym and they should fight, for sure, like with with gloves, mouthpiece,
- 46:36Speaker 3: with a clock, you know, like you.
- 46:38Speaker 1: Should set it up like if you really got a
- 46:40Speaker 1: problem with somebody.
- 46:41Speaker 3: And that's the thing about like training martial arts or
- 46:44Speaker 3: just any type of you know, combat sport is like
- 46:49Speaker 3: you don't want to do it randomly, you feel me Like,
- 46:51Speaker 3: if we're really going to do this, if you feel
- 46:53Speaker 3: like that tomorrow or next week or next month, then
- 46:56Speaker 3: like by all means, please come down here, let's meet
- 46:59Speaker 3: up and let's get it cracking.
- 47:00Speaker 1: I think that more people would benefit off of that,
- 47:03Speaker 1: for sure.
- 47:04Speaker 2: Fight.
- 47:05Speaker 1: I don't fight bro.
- 47:07Speaker 2: The sparring.
- 47:08Speaker 1: Oh I spa all the time.
- 47:09Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't
- 47:12Speaker 3: fight in the streets. So that's that's that's out.
- 47:15Speaker 2: Wi's Khalif for mana.
- 47:20Speaker 4: Yes, like I made it through.
- 47:21Speaker 1: Come on, it's easy for y'all cool. I came to
- 47:24Speaker 1: see y'all.
- 47:24Speaker 2: Cush and you're about to go on to the Tailor
- 47:27Speaker 2: Gang World.
- 47:27Speaker 3: Tailor game in the world. Yeah, Taylor gag the world.
- 47:29Speaker 3: Cushing os used to follow me on all socials. TikTok
- 47:33Speaker 3: Wiz Khalifa Instagram, Wis Kalifa x Wiz Khalifa.
- 47:39Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Wiz Kalif for the Breakfast Club.
- 47:41Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club