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Speaker 1: Gives the reform it good evening. I'm James Macpherson coming
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Speaker 1: up tonight. It's reconciliation week, but is Australia more divided
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Speaker 1: than ever? Senator Justiner Price will join me. The ABC's
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Speaker 1: managing director gets a fiery reception in Senate estimates.
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Speaker 2: That is a disgraceful statement.
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Speaker 3: For any reporter to make in any context.
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Speaker 1: And Victoria's offshore wind fantasy in doubt after energy giant
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Speaker 1: Shell quits plans to be involved. But first, as you're aware,
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Speaker 1: we currently have university students right around the country protesting
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Speaker 1: against Israel. The protests here in Australia, including anti Israel encampments, aren't,
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Speaker 1: of course original. They're a direct copy of what our
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Speaker 1: kids have seen America students doing, students whose ignorance is
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Speaker 1: matched only by their self assuredness, demanding university's cut ties
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Speaker 1: with Israel, the only liberal democracy in the Middle East.
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Speaker 1: Well today, American students and by extension, those here in
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Speaker 1: Australia received some encouragement. I'm just not sure it's the
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Speaker 1: kind of encouragement you want. The Supreme Leader of Iran
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Speaker 1: this morning published a letter praising university students around the
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Speaker 1: Western world. That's right, the Ayatola, he loves our UNI students.
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Speaker 1: Here he is encouraging students in Iran.
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Speaker 4: M maker embru, i'm on pario de ebrom, i'm on
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Speaker 4: pario de bout Chicandra, andmbru pario.
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Speaker 1: The ngalobresund. He went on to say he agreed with
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Speaker 1: those chants. So, with the chance of death to America
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Speaker 1: still ringing in his ears, the supreme leader of an
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Speaker 1: Islamic theocracy that sponsors terrorism around the globe today fired
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Speaker 1: off this letter on social media. He said, dear university
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Speaker 1: students in the United States of America, you are standing
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Speaker 1: on the right side of history. You have now formed
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Speaker 1: a branch of the resistance front and have begun an
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Speaker 1: honorable struggle. The resistance front has grown in strength and
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Speaker 1: will become even stronger now. Protesting university students might be
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Speaker 1: interested to learn that other branches of Iran's resistance front
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Speaker 1: include Hesblah and Palestine. Islamicj had probably not the sort
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Speaker 1: of company you want to be keeping. Then again, maybe
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Speaker 1: the Iatol and those our kids better than I do.
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Speaker 5: He've also got to send himshis to Hamas to release
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Speaker 5: the hostages, don't you well.
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Speaker 6: I actually say that Hamas deserve our unconditional support, not
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Speaker 6: because I agree with their strategy.
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Speaker 5: You can't condemn what Hamas did in October.
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Speaker 6: I will not condemn what Hamas did. We must be unconditional,
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Speaker 6: but we must be critical also, right.
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Speaker 1: No, I did not condemn the Iotola's letter does present
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Speaker 1: us with an interesting question, though, doesn't it Who's right
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Speaker 1: University vice chancellors who insist the student encampments are, as
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Speaker 1: Sydney's Mark Scott said, legitimate peaceful protests we just you know,
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Speaker 1: see from time to time. Or do we believe the
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Speaker 1: iotol Harmione who claims them as extensions of his own
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Speaker 1: foreign policy, which, as we all know, calls for the
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Speaker 1: complete eradication of Israel.
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Speaker 6: Joe on.
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Speaker 2: That and.
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Speaker 1: Adan As Regimov.
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Speaker 2: That's man, That's.
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Speaker 1: But the eye Toll is not just impressed with Western
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Speaker 1: young people. He also lavished praise on their tutors, telling
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Speaker 1: students the support and solidarity of your professors is a
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Speaker 1: consequential development. Now, the Eye tolls gratitude to Western university
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Speaker 1: staff comes at the same time that audio of a
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Speaker 1: University of Sydney professor telling first year students that mass
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Speaker 1: rape and sexual violence perpetrated by a mass on October
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Speaker 1: seven was quote fake news and a hoax peddled by
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Speaker 1: the media. This was exclusively revealed by the Australian newspaper Tonight.
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Speaker 1: Have a listen.
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Speaker 2: We look at, for.
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Speaker 7: Instance, the role of the media in this genocide as
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Speaker 7: an ideological state apparatus. We can see how the Western
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Speaker 7: media has suppressed coverage of the atrocities. They've used this
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Speaker 7: kind of fake news about Hamas beheading babies and mass rapes,
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Speaker 7: all in order to shore up support for Israel, and
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Speaker 7: they have distorted events.
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Speaker 1: Now that of course is garbage. Even the United Nations,
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Speaker 1: who aren't exactly friends of Israel, have said there are
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Speaker 1: quote reasonable grounds to believe from US engaged in mass
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Speaker 1: gang rape across multiple locations on October seven. Now Sydney
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Speaker 1: University has told The Australian they're investigating the sociology professor's comments,
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Speaker 1: but little wonder the Ayatola loves Western University professors. The
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Speaker 1: term useful idiots comes quickly to mind, and then the
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Speaker 1: leader of the country in which Islamic law is followed
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Speaker 1: to the letter helpfully encourages his young charges, by whom
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Speaker 1: I mean our young people saying, the resistance front a
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Speaker 1: answers by a comprehensive understanding and the practice of those
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Speaker 1: and hundreds of other such commands from Allah and will
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Speaker 1: attain victory with the permission of God. And then he
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Speaker 1: has this advice for our young people. My advice to
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Speaker 1: you is to become familiar with the Qur'an. Now, it's
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Speaker 1: tempting to scoff who does the Iatola think he is?
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Speaker 1: Then again, maybe it's the Iatola who's laughing at us.
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Speaker 1: Remember these scenes just a few weeks ago from UCLA,
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Speaker 1: hundreds of university students praying the Shahadah converting to Islam
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Speaker 1: on university campuses. Imagine telling someone ten years ago they'd
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Speaker 1: soon come a day when the Iranian Supreme Leader would
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Speaker 1: be thanking a bunch of atheist students in Western universities.
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Speaker 1: Just ten years ago, people would have thought you were insane.
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Speaker 1: But unfortunately that's what we're living with today, insanity. Then again,
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Speaker 1: others of us have been screaming for the past ten years,
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Speaker 1: and if we didn't wake up, these days were coming.
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Speaker 1: And here we are well, following months of dodging questions
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Speaker 1: and concocting excuses, the Albanzi government has essentially admitted defeat
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Speaker 1: in its self inflicted detainee debarcle by announcing they'll redraft
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Speaker 1: in now infamous Direction ninety nine, which began as a
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Speaker 1: sop to New Zealand's then left wing Prime Minister just
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Speaker 1: Into ar Dern, only to quickly become a nightmare for Australia.
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Speaker 1: The government has essentially admitted culpability. But today Anthony Albanesi
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Speaker 1: refused to answer legitimate questions from the opposition. Instead, he
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Speaker 1: responded with these wild attacks.
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Speaker 3: Why did this week and incompetent prime minister put his
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Speaker 3: close and sycophantic relationship with Jasindra Adurn ahead of the
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Speaker 3: safety of Australia?
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Speaker 1: All the angers there in just one question, the anger,
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Speaker 1: the abuse, the.
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Speaker 8: Prime Minister, did you receive any that your Direction ninety
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Speaker 8: nine would result in more criminals having to stay in Australia.
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Speaker 9: They're in your conspiracy theories?
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Speaker 10: Conspiracy theory.
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Speaker 1: That's the kind of answer that passes for transparency and
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Speaker 1: accountability these days. And now The Australian newspaper has exclusively
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Speaker 1: revealed that just months after the Albanesi government won the
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Speaker 1: election in twenty twenty two, immigration Minister Andrew Giles was
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Speaker 1: in fact warned by the Department of Home Affairs that
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Speaker 1: softening the government's visa cancelation policies as he then did,
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Speaker 1: could impact up to two thy eight hundred deportation cases,
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Speaker 1: resulting in cancelations being overturned and criminals being allowed to stay.
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Speaker 1: So mister Giles claim that judges had misunderstood Direction ninety
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Speaker 1: nine when allowing foreign criminals to stay in Australia is
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Speaker 1: completely void. Joining me now is Nationals MP Barnaby, Joyce Barnaby,
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Speaker 1: good to see you that the evidence of Labour's incompetence
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Speaker 1: has been of obvious for a long time. Now the
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Speaker 1: government is finally starting to admit it.
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Speaker 8: Well what we see this is the anniversary two year anniversary.
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Speaker 8: What a marvelous anniversary it is too. Who has ever
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Speaker 8: seen a government fall so far in two years and
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Speaker 8: what we've found out, Like I was almost a New
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Speaker 8: Zealander of the year unbeknownst to me, but around about
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Speaker 8: the same time just sit Ada and was almost Prime
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Speaker 8: Minister of Australia. It's remarkable they knew this decision ninety
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Speaker 8: nine was a debarcle. They know that the Minister is yeah,
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Speaker 8: as soon as we're on the winter break, I reckon
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Speaker 8: you'll get punded. But when they deal with it straight away,
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Speaker 8: I mean what Peter Darton said is something I've been saying,
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Speaker 8: because it's the truth, the biggest, the best attack is
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Speaker 8: the truth, Miss albaneas he's weak, he's weak. You know,
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Speaker 8: a decisive person would deal with this straight away, change
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Speaker 8: it straight away, deal with the Minister responsible straight away.
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Speaker 8: But he can't, you know, But all he goes to
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Speaker 8: the dispatch box and he's all sort of smoke and mirrors.
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Speaker 8: These people who were not detained, have raped, have assaulted,
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Speaker 8: have been trying to molest children. It's really it is
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Speaker 8: quite was not quite. It's a very very serious issue
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Speaker 8: and it happened on this government's watch and they've only
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Speaker 8: been there for two years. Golly gosh, their mark after
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Speaker 8: two years is a big fail, isn't it?
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Speaker 1: Well? As you say, I mean Minister Giles protestations today
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Speaker 1: that he's working night and day on this issue. I
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Speaker 1: mean that rings a little hollow, doesn't it. This has
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Speaker 1: been an issue, as you say, for a long time,
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Speaker 1: who's protecting who?
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Speaker 3: Here?
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Speaker 1: Is Giles taking the hits for Elberanzi who came up
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Speaker 1: with this directive because he wanted to do a favor
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Speaker 1: for just into Dern or is Anthony Elbanezi protecting his mate.
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Speaker 8: Well, let's get this in chronological order. First thing you've
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Speaker 8: got is to center Ardern, who was like the acting
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Speaker 8: Prime Minister of Australia, who then gave an instruction to
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Speaker 8: her two ic, which was Anthony Alberanzi, the actual Prime
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Speaker 8: Minister of Australia, who then gave it an instruction to Giles,
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Speaker 8: the Minister to bring about a law so that criminals
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Speaker 8: could get out of jail and basically we'll get out
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Speaker 8: of detention and walk the street and continue on with
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Speaker 8: their spree of crimes, which they did in a very
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Speaker 8: absolute way. And now we've got the Prime the current
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Speaker 8: Prime Minister of Australia sort of saying well, yes, maybe
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Speaker 8: I shouldn't have listened to just sent her, but he
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Speaker 8: doesn't really want to say that. He's trying to say
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Speaker 8: something else. And he got Minister Giles, who who on
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Speaker 8: this issue has had more starts than Harold park Hare.
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Speaker 8: It's every day is a different yarn, and you know,
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Speaker 8: it's just you know, and people you sort of give
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Speaker 8: up and start going through your phone and answering emails,
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Speaker 8: because it's just claptrap in the chamber and go this
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Speaker 8: is pointless clap trap.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's took about another confusing policy, and that's
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Speaker 1: renewable energy. Barnaby, you've got to wonder about the feasibility
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Speaker 1: of offshore wind development energy Giant Shell they've just walked
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Speaker 1: away from their plan to build what would have been
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Speaker 1: a huge wind farm off the coast of Victoria. Shall
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Speaker 1: quit the project after spending two years exploring the practicalities,
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Speaker 1: and with the company's chief executives saying they needed to
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Speaker 1: be ruthless in focusing on financial performance. The Victorian government
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Speaker 1: is counting on offshore wind to meet their targets. This
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Speaker 1: decision by Shell, Barnaby doesn't exactly engender confidence, does it.
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Speaker 8: Well, you know it's the coal James, isn't it. This
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Speaker 8: is what's happening with the cold wind farms. What fruit
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Speaker 8: doth grow on this tree?
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Speaker 2: Is it?
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Speaker 8: Is it an apple or a pair? Is it a
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Speaker 8: farm for potatoes? It's a swindle factory. And you look
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Speaker 8: into my elector and they've got like Nigerian billionaires who
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Speaker 8: flipped the deal the black Rockese companies Singapore and companies
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Speaker 8: they don't.
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Speaker 2: Care about the environment.
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Speaker 8: They look at your listeners and say you mug you
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Speaker 8: absolutely muggling.
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Speaker 1: I rip you off.
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Speaker 8: And what we're seeing also is they don't work. A
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Speaker 8: bit of a problem that that i't work. And so
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Speaker 8: you've got major proponents and also your power bill, absolute
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Speaker 8: disaster going through the roof and all the reality is
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Speaker 8: starting to crash. And just like Colts. You know how
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Speaker 8: Colts work that they talk about you're denier, you're a believer,
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Speaker 8: or you know, calamity, the end of the world imminent
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Speaker 8: if you don't follow the chosen people within this cult
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Speaker 8: where they have very very opaque financial arrangements.
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Speaker 2: You can't quite work out what's going on.
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Speaker 8: But someone is making a big buck, you know that.
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Speaker 8: And of course you know what happens with the Colts
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Speaker 8: in the end, and that's what's happening with this one.
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Speaker 2: Brother.
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Speaker 8: We are seeing it. And it's unfortunately the people who
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Speaker 8: pay going to the pensioner with their powerbill, the poor
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Speaker 8: person who goes into poverty, the small business they just
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Speaker 8: can't handle it anymore. Manufacturing is leaving the country. What
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Speaker 8: manufacturer is trying to come to Australia. What name one,
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Speaker 8: because they look at us and they go good, oh,
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Speaker 8: look there down in South Pacific and they're completely off
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Speaker 8: their head.
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Speaker 1: Well, as I said, Mischelle have decided they're not going
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Speaker 1: to make any money out of it, so they've walked away.
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Speaker 1: Barnaby Joyce, always good to talk to you, Thank you
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Speaker 1: very much. Well. Monday marked the start of National Reconciliation Week,
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Speaker 1: and two things struck me. First, there's been surprisingly little
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Speaker 1: about it in the media, aside from a few tweets.
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Speaker 1: I've heard nothing about it from Prime Minister Anthony Elberanizi
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Speaker 1: and that strikes me as strange when you remember he
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Speaker 1: spent the first year of his term in office talking
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Speaker 1: about little else. The second thing that strikes me as
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Speaker 1: odd is that this, I believe is a twenty eighth
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Speaker 1: year in a row that National Reconciliation Week has been held,
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Speaker 1: and yet Australia seems more divided by race now than
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Speaker 1: ever before. Even the National Reconciliation Site, rather than bring
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Speaker 1: Australians together, seems to me intent on pitting people against
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Speaker 1: one another, casting some Australians as good and others as not.
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Speaker 1: Have a look at this the website says now more
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Speaker 1: than ever, we need to tackle the unfinished business of reconciliation.
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Speaker 1: We know that the six point two million Australians who
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Speaker 1: voted Yes are committed to better outcomes for First Nations
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Speaker 1: people and are with us. I read that and thought,
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Speaker 1: hang on a second. The organizers of Reconciliation Week seem
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Speaker 1: to be suggesting that the sixty percent of Australians who
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Speaker 1: voted No at the referendum are not committed to better
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Speaker 1: outcomes for Aboriginal people. Really joining me is Shadow Affairs Minister,
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Speaker 1: Shadow Indigenous Affairs Minister, I should say, Senator Jacenter nampajimber Price, Senator,
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Speaker 1: do you agree with the inference from the Reconciliation Organization?
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Speaker 4: I actually find it quite disappointing because it is not
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Speaker 4: I guess it is not about the spirit of reconciliation
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Speaker 4: within that statement itself, and it's certainly not true to
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Speaker 4: suggest that those who voted no to the Voice don't
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Speaker 4: want what's best for Indigenous Australians. In fact, the very
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Speaker 4: opposite is absolutely my understanding for the many, many Australians
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Speaker 4: that I had the opportunity to meet right around the country,
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Speaker 4: including Indigenous Australians who voted no to the concept.
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Speaker 1: Of the voice.
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Speaker 4: That's what they voted, no to division, racial division within
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Speaker 4: our constitution and leaving the lives of our most vulnerable
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Speaker 4: in the hands of an unknown entity.
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Speaker 1: So riddle me this, how do comments like that from
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Speaker 1: Reconciliation Australia help reconciliation.
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Speaker 4: Well, they don't quite Simply put, they absolutely don't, and
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Speaker 4: evidently they own have. I believe, you know, the best
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Speaker 4: intentions for our most marginalized at the forefront as a priority.
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Speaker 4: And you know what really gets to me, James, is
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Speaker 4: that I grew up in a culture where it was
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Speaker 4: about accepting all people, black, white, brindle. My elders believe
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Speaker 4: that if you were conceived on this country, your baby
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Speaker 4: spirit came from the land. You belong to this country
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Speaker 4: just like everybody else. And that is what true reconciliation
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Speaker 4: is about. It's accepting everybody as human. It's coming to
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Speaker 4: the table and everyone putting something on the table to
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Speaker 4: support one another.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well said. It does seem to me like the
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Speaker 1: referendum did drive Australians apart rather than bring Australians together.
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Speaker 1: It also seems to me like the government is clueless
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Speaker 1: as to what to do about it, now do you
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Speaker 1: get that impression?
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Speaker 4: Look, the government had no backup plan whatsoever. They absolutely
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Speaker 4: thought they had the voice in the bag, and evidently
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Speaker 4: they're quiet on a many number of issues, which concerns
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Speaker 4: me because you know, it almost feels like, well, are
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Speaker 4: they in the background trying to get things done deceitfully
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Speaker 4: in a sneaky manner. But I'm also aware of many
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Speaker 4: very good programs that are delivering outcomes right across the
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Speaker 4: country that are having their funding cut as we speak.
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Speaker 4: So it is concerning that this government, you know, the
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Speaker 4: track record is abysmal across the board, and particularly when
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Speaker 4: it comes to improving the lives of marginalized Indigenous Australians.
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Speaker 1: Help me, help me understand the whole concept of reconciliation.
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Speaker 1: Indigenous Affairs Minister Linda Bernie put out a statement for
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Speaker 1: Reconciliation Week saying quote, now more than ever, it's time
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Speaker 1: to make progress towards reconciliation, and the Assistant indid Affairs
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Speaker 1: Minister she said something similar, She said reconciliation is a
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Speaker 1: journey for all Australians to embark on. So, Senator, when
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Speaker 1: I hear those words, I sort of think, well, okay,
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Speaker 1: but that kind of begs the question. And I think
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Speaker 1: possibly for most Australians, if we're going on a journey
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Speaker 1: towards reconciliation, how do we know when we've gotten to
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Speaker 1: the destination and who decides?
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Speaker 4: Well, I think that given it's you know, there's a
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Speaker 4: copious amounts of funding available for forever trying attempting to
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Speaker 4: reach this concept of reconciliation, I don't think we'll ever
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Speaker 4: actually get there, you know. I mean, ultimately, you can't
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Speaker 4: expect one group of Australians based on racial heritage to
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Speaker 4: be elevated by expecting the rest of Australia to take
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Speaker 4: responsibility for that. And I think that's where a lot
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Speaker 4: of the reason why we can't seem to get to
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Speaker 4: the next point. And perhaps, as I've mentioned many times,
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Speaker 4: the element of forgiveness is the element that is missing
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Speaker 4: that ultimately that I see is required for this concept
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Speaker 4: of reconciliation. But there has to be open hearts and
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Speaker 4: open minds for that to occur, and everybody accepting responsibility
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Speaker 4: for circumstances.
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Speaker 1: You've probably anticipated my next question slightly, but I'm going
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Speaker 1: to go with it anyway. Let's imagine that you are
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Speaker 1: not only the Indigenous Affairs Minister, but you're also the
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister. It's your first reconciliation week in charge of
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Speaker 1: the country. What would your message be.
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Speaker 4: My message would be, everyone has a seat at the table.
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Speaker 4: We are all responsible for ourselves, for our actions. We
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Speaker 4: hold the key to our own destiny and we've got
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Speaker 4: to move away from the victim mentality if we're supposed
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Speaker 4: to progress forward and true reconciliation is acceptance of everybody
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Speaker 4: and nonyx, not excluding anybody, and that we've all were
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Speaker 4: all there for wanting what's best for all Australians, but
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Speaker 4: particularly our most marginalized Senator Price.
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Speaker 1: It's always an absolute pleasure talking to you. Thanks so
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Speaker 1: much for your time tonight. Well, coming up next all
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Speaker 1: the latest from the US presidential campaign, where Trump reckons
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Speaker 1: mother Theresa couldn't beat the charges he's facing, and an
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Speaker 1: increasingly agitated Joe Biden is giving speeches in empty auditoriums.
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Speaker 1: All of that and more coming up in a moment.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. Well, let's get the latest US news with
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Speaker 1: Sky News contributor Kosher Gaeta Kosher, thanks for joining me.
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Speaker 1: The jury in Trump's hush money trial has begun its
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Speaker 1: deliberations and here's what Trump had to say outside court today.
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Speaker 3: Mother Theresa good Now beds Joe Jose charges are.
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Speaker 1: Regularly Mother Teresa couldn't make these charges. Do you think
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Speaker 1: Trump will bake these charges?
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Speaker 11: The smart money James seems to be that he will not.
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Speaker 11: Not because of the soundness of the legal theory of
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Speaker 11: the case. Lots of legal analysts and scholars have been
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Speaker 11: really exposing the flaws and everything from the statutes that
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Speaker 11: it's residing on. How they took a mis demeanor charge
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Speaker 11: that has a two year statute of limitations and stitched
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Speaker 11: it together and sort of this Frankenstein legal theory that
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Speaker 11: you have to jump through so many hoops and connect
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Speaker 11: so many dots to get to the outcome. So not
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Speaker 11: because of the soundness of the case, but because of
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Speaker 11: the fact that this case is going to fall down
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Speaker 11: along political lines. We know Manhattan is a very heavily
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Speaker 11: democrat area. The judge is a Democrat. He and his
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Speaker 11: daughter have both donated to democrats. All this stuff is
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Speaker 11: in the public domain, and you know, I've always said
22:53
Speaker 11: that the real thing that's on trial here is the
22:56
Speaker 11: justice system and the justice system of New York in particular,
22:59
Speaker 11: which I can you as a former New Yorker who's
23:01
Speaker 11: lived there for sixteen seventeen years, I know many people,
23:04
Speaker 11: including those who really hate Trump and never liked him,
23:07
Speaker 11: who are quite disgusted actually with how this whole thing
23:09
Speaker 11: has gone down.
23:10
Speaker 1: You mentioned New York being Democrat heartland, So are you
23:14
Speaker 1: saying the jury would be pretty biased in this case.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, So Manhattan I think went only thirteen percent for
23:23
Speaker 11: Trump in the last election, last two elections actually, and
23:27
Speaker 11: you know the balance almost ninety percent for.
23:29
Speaker 2: The other side.
23:30
Speaker 11: There is some reporting that there's one juror reportedly who
23:34
Speaker 11: may be a Trump supporter. I would not put any
23:36
Speaker 11: stock into this. This is like reading tea leaves here
23:39
Speaker 11: because it's been a closed session courtroom. But from the
23:42
Speaker 11: reporters that are in there, there are some comments in
23:45
Speaker 11: terms of the media that the juror consumes and his
23:48
Speaker 11: facial expressions and different points in the case. So if
23:51
Speaker 11: that is true, and we'll find out in short order
23:54
Speaker 11: here in a couple of weeks or less, then that
23:56
Speaker 11: would result in a hung jury. Because for a criminal conviction,
23:59
Speaker 11: he needs a unil animous verdict, and if even one
24:02
Speaker 11: juror decides that this has not been proven, the prosecution
24:05
Speaker 11: has not proven it beyond a reasonable doubt, then he
24:07
Speaker 11: would get a hung jury.
24:08
Speaker 1: Do you be a brave duror to hold out? Wouldn't you?
24:11
Speaker 1: Half the country would love you and the other half
24:13
Speaker 1: would hate you. Tell me this. There's been reports that
24:17
Speaker 1: authorities have been preparing for the event that Trump is
24:21
Speaker 1: found guilty. How would he be transferred to jail, et cetera,
24:24
Speaker 1: et cetera. There's been talk of this in the media.
24:27
Speaker 1: Is this the public being softened up for that potentiality?
24:33
Speaker 11: I think anything is possible. We've crossed the rubicon here,
24:36
Speaker 11: you know, just with the foundations of this thing that
24:38
Speaker 11: in two hundred and forty five years in the history
24:41
Speaker 11: of the Republic, we have never indicted or criminally charged
24:44
Speaker 11: a former president, and we have here over this over
24:48
Speaker 11: what's ultimately a bookkeeping.
24:51
Speaker 2: Misjudgment.
24:52
Speaker 11: You know, with all these solationis details wrapped around it,
24:54
Speaker 11: but the crux of the case is basically bookkeeping violation.
24:56
Speaker 11: And because of that, you know, it seems unlikely that
25:00
Speaker 11: jail time would be the outcome of this. It seems
25:02
Speaker 11: like it would be a bridge too far, even for
25:05
Speaker 11: a politically biased judge and jury pool.
25:07
Speaker 2: Though it is possible and it's.
25:09
Speaker 11: Never been done before, So how are they going to
25:11
Speaker 11: work through that? How would the Secret Service handle a
25:14
Speaker 11: president because they get Secret Service protection for life a
25:16
Speaker 11: former president in that circumstance, It's just like, we can't
25:19
Speaker 11: even think about what that eventuality would be. But sure,
25:22
Speaker 11: I think softening up the public is part of the
25:25
Speaker 11: game here because this is just so unprecedented.
25:28
Speaker 1: Koshy, you talk about a bridge too far watching American politics,
25:31
Speaker 1: so I'm not convinced there is a bridge too far
25:33
Speaker 1: these days. Hey, one more question on Trump before we
25:36
Speaker 1: get to the president a guilty verdict. What would that
25:41
Speaker 1: mean for Trump's presidential prospects? I mean, it might not
25:45
Speaker 1: hurt him.
25:48
Speaker 2: If the polls are any indication.
25:50
Speaker 11: We have to take polling with a huge grain of
25:52
Speaker 11: salt because they haven't exactly covered themselves in glory in
25:54
Speaker 11: recent years.
25:55
Speaker 2: He is winning in the court of public opinion around here.
25:58
Speaker 2: When this whole.
25:59
Speaker 11: Saga starts, he was leading by about a point on average,
26:02
Speaker 11: and that's up fifteen, sixteen, seventeen points even in battleground states.
26:06
Speaker 2: At this point in time. We obviously have six more
26:08
Speaker 2: months to go.
26:09
Speaker 11: So it looks like the other side that either loves him,
26:13
Speaker 11: they're galvanizing, and the turnout is going to be two
26:15
Speaker 11: three four points higher for the people who are already
26:17
Speaker 11: predisposed to support Trump. It also seems to be making
26:20
Speaker 11: a lot of people that are moderates, maybe a little
26:22
Speaker 11: bit center right, never really liked Trump.
26:24
Speaker 2: There's lots and lots of those people.
26:25
Speaker 11: They also see this as a travesty of justice and
26:28
Speaker 11: for that reason are supporting him. But there's this one
26:30
Speaker 11: swath of people who maybe are not in the weeds
26:33
Speaker 11: following this stuff like you and I do in the details,
26:35
Speaker 11: and they'll just react to this headline that he will
26:38
Speaker 11: be a convicted felon if this jury comes out and
26:40
Speaker 11: convicts him in the next week or two, and they
26:42
Speaker 11: just will never be able to pull the trigger in
26:44
Speaker 11: the voting booth for convicted felon. And I think that's
26:46
Speaker 11: the calculus that the other side is making here. It's
26:49
Speaker 11: a high stakes maneuver, and which side is going to
26:51
Speaker 11: be more potent come November is I think what is
26:54
Speaker 11: anybody's guests Now, I know.
26:56
Speaker 1: I'm asking you to speculate here because no one really knows,
26:59
Speaker 1: but what's the word on the street. How long are
27:02
Speaker 1: people expecting before a verdict is given in this?
27:08
Speaker 2: It is interesting.
27:09
Speaker 11: I mean, I think one to two weeks is really
27:12
Speaker 11: the time window here that people are looking at. What
27:14
Speaker 11: they say is that if usually it's a unanimity one
27:18
Speaker 11: way or the other, guilt or acquittal, nobody seems to
27:21
Speaker 11: think it's going to be a full acquittal here.
27:23
Speaker 2: It would be quick.
27:23
Speaker 11: You would see them come out in a matter of hours,
27:25
Speaker 11: and that hasn't happened yet, which is interesting. It's a
27:28
Speaker 11: sign that that means there's some discussion and deliberation going
27:31
Speaker 11: in there. Maybe people are asking questions, or there might
27:33
Speaker 11: be that holdout duror reportedly. So the more time takes on,
27:37
Speaker 11: it would suggest that that's actually helpful to Trump potentially.
27:41
Speaker 11: But again this is all speculation, and I think one
27:43
Speaker 11: or the other it should be a week or two
27:45
Speaker 11: that will know this, if not sooner.
27:47
Speaker 1: All right, well, let's check in with the purported leader
27:49
Speaker 1: of the free world, President Joe Biden. Here he says
27:53
Speaker 1: the quiet part out loud. According to Biden, Vice President
27:57
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris was little more than a diverse city.
28:00
Speaker 12: Higher to me, the value of diversity, equality, inclusion are literally,
28:06
Speaker 12: and that's not kidding, the core strengths of America. That's
28:10
Speaker 12: why I'm proud to have the most diverse administration history.
28:14
Speaker 12: It taps into the full talents of our country and
28:17
Speaker 12: starts at the top of the vice president.
28:20
Speaker 1: Now, the funny thing about that is I don't think
28:22
Speaker 1: Joe Biden even realizes that that was a dig. Meanwhile,
28:25
Speaker 1: take a look at how the media hides the embarrassingly
28:28
Speaker 1: low turnout at Biden's rallies. Here's what the media shows you.
28:33
Speaker 2: Why are you with me?
28:42
Speaker 1: And take a look at this photo, which exposes the
28:45
Speaker 1: hilarious reality the media downplay the size of Trump crowds
28:49
Speaker 1: while not letting you see how few people turn out
28:52
Speaker 1: to hear Joe Biden and yet another sign of weakness.
28:56
Speaker 1: Listen to the response Joe Biden gave a reporter who
28:59
Speaker 1: asked legitimate question about the very real possibility of Kamala
29:02
Speaker 1: Harris needing to take over at some point.
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Speaker 8: President Biden, will you be serving your full four year
29:09
Speaker 8: term or handing over power its vice president Harris.
29:14
Speaker 12: All four years for handing over.
29:18
Speaker 1: Okay, well, a little wonder Biden's terse, I mean there's
29:26
Speaker 1: tiny crowds, terrible polls, Trump leading in most of the
29:29
Speaker 1: battleground states, and now pesky reporters questioning his mental faculties. Meanwhile,
29:35
Speaker 1: speaking of mental faculties, Jill Biden has been a guest
29:39
Speaker 1: on the View where she claimed Trump is the one
29:42
Speaker 1: who can't string a sentence together.
29:45
Speaker 2: You need to see your choices.
29:47
Speaker 10: You need to see Trump, and you need to see
29:51
Speaker 10: the president, and you need to see the differences.
29:54
Speaker 2: And my husband's and you're going to see how smart
29:56
Speaker 2: he is and the experience he has. And then you'll see.
30:00
Speaker 11: Somebody who, like you're saying, I'm going to use Joy's words, can't.
30:03
Speaker 2: Put a sentence together?
30:07
Speaker 1: Has two Boden ever listened to her husband.
30:11
Speaker 12: America is a nation that can be defined in a
30:13
Speaker 12: single word.
30:15
Speaker 1: I was foot him. I signed the Act into the
30:21
Speaker 1: law he had tied that fall.
30:23
Speaker 12: He decided to.
30:25
Speaker 1: Look, I shouldn't get into this.
30:27
Speaker 12: I'll lay it affect a strategy to mobilize sure in
30:31
Speaker 12: the pressure.
30:32
Speaker 1: We cannot get re elect.
30:34
Speaker 12: We cannot win this reelection, exude me.
30:37
Speaker 1: We can only re elect Donald Trump Kusha. Even if
30:42
Speaker 1: Trump is behind bars solely, Americans can't possibly re elect
30:45
Speaker 1: that man. Can they.
30:49
Speaker 11: Well, I've long said that we have moved past a
30:52
Speaker 11: system that is really about the candidate or even about
30:56
Speaker 11: said candidate's policy positions, sadly, and I think the last
30:58
Speaker 11: election really demonstrates that it is so much more about
31:01
Speaker 11: the machinery, the apparatus, the ground game. We don't have
31:04
Speaker 11: mandatory voting in the US, so so much of these
31:07
Speaker 11: elections turn on whether you can get out people that
31:09
Speaker 11: have a little bit of an inclination to vote for
31:11
Speaker 11: a particular party, leaving inside the person. You get them
31:14
Speaker 11: out two percent, three percent percentage points more in those
31:18
Speaker 11: battleground states, and you've got an election. You're right that
31:20
Speaker 11: if we actually were voting based on the candidate, it
31:23
Speaker 11: wouldn't even make sense. Because Joe Biden got eighty one
31:26
Speaker 11: million votes, that would be translating into larger crowd sizes
31:29
Speaker 11: and more organic support, and it's not.
31:32
Speaker 2: We can see that. So I think it really is
31:33
Speaker 2: a function of just.
31:34
Speaker 11: A superior machinery that the Democrat Party runs compared to
31:37
Speaker 11: the Republican Party, and that might be why you see
31:40
Speaker 11: the result that you see.
31:41
Speaker 1: If he does win, well, we'll wait to see what
31:43
Speaker 1: happens in that Trump trial Kosher, Thanks so much for
31:46
Speaker 1: your time tonight Still to come. ABC bosses face a
31:50
Speaker 1: grilling it tonight's Senate hearing, admitting their chief political reporter's
31:54
Speaker 1: racist Australia comment was a mistake. More on that with
31:58
Speaker 1: my panel coming up in a moment, Welcome back. Well,
32:04
Speaker 1: ABC's managing director David Anderson is facing a fiery Senate
32:08
Speaker 1: Estimates hearing tonight, grilled over comments Laura Tingle made at
32:12
Speaker 1: the Sydney Writers' Festival when she slammed Australia as being
32:15
Speaker 1: a racist country. David Anderson admitting that the comments were
32:19
Speaker 1: a mistake. Have a listen.
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Speaker 10: I am generally sorry that that happened. I wish it
32:28
Speaker 10: hadn't have happened.
32:29
Speaker 9: Are you sorry to mister Dutton as well?
32:31
Speaker 6: Well?
32:32
Speaker 10: Senator, I think when political leaders put things out for debate,
32:37
Speaker 10: I think the course that that takes I can't be
32:40
Speaker 10: sorry for because I can't be accountable for what is
32:44
Speaker 10: said off an ABC platform.
32:48
Speaker 1: Well, let's bring in tonight's panel. Joining me is Sky
32:50
Speaker 1: News host Liz Storer, my late Debate Nemesis Hello again,
32:54
Speaker 1: and of course Spectator Australia's far Will podcast host Will
32:58
Speaker 1: Kingston Will thanks for joining.
33:02
Speaker 4: Guys.
33:02
Speaker 1: Let me start with you will the ABC admitting a mistake.
33:07
Speaker 1: This is new territory, is it not? I guess so.
33:12
Speaker 5: Look, Laura Tingle's been doing this for years. You can't
33:15
Speaker 5: teach an old dog new tricks. It highlights the buying
33:19
Speaker 5: that Kim Williams is in. So for me, there are
33:22
Speaker 5: two ways the ABC could go about trying to meet
33:24
Speaker 5: its charter. They could either do what they currently do,
33:27
Speaker 5: which is encouraging journalists to take an objective view to
33:30
Speaker 5: issues that's obviously not working. Or they could radically change
33:34
Speaker 5: their hiring policy and for every right leaning opinion journalist
33:37
Speaker 5: left leaning opinion journalists try and find a right leaning one.
33:40
Speaker 5: They're obviously not doing that either, and have a little
33:43
Speaker 5: appetite to do it. So it raises the age old
33:46
Speaker 5: defund the ABC issue, and the fact of the matter
33:48
Speaker 5: is if they can't fulfill their charter, there is little
33:50
Speaker 5: justification for a public broadcaster. In twenty twenty four, Liz, you.
33:54
Speaker 1: Heard the ABC boss. They're say, sorry, did he mean it?
34:00
Speaker 2: No, not at all.
34:01
Speaker 3: So he goes on to say that no, she will
34:03
Speaker 3: not be stepped down. This was just a misstep. It's
34:05
Speaker 3: basically a misunderstanding.
34:08
Speaker 2: No, it's not.
34:08
Speaker 3: We now know what she thinks about Australia and she
34:12
Speaker 3: genuinely believes this is a racist country. When asked if
34:16
Speaker 3: she should be stepped down from her board position, he replies,
34:19
Speaker 3: I don't know what Kim Williams would have to say
34:22
Speaker 3: on that. None of us know what Kim Williams has
34:25
Speaker 3: to say on this, because all we've heard from him
34:28
Speaker 3: so far is no comment. Thanks mister chairman, that's really helpful.
34:33
Speaker 3: It just seems there's going to be absolutely no repercussions
34:36
Speaker 3: for this whatsoever. More of the same from the ABC. Unfortunately,
34:41
Speaker 3: we're just used to it at this point. And then
34:43
Speaker 3: he had the temerity, in this hearing that you've just
34:46
Speaker 3: played a bit of to be like, oh, this is
34:48
Speaker 3: just a news court pylon.
34:49
Speaker 1: They're obsessed with the ABC.
34:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are rather obsessed with impartiality from our state
34:56
Speaker 3: broadcaster that is funded extortion lee by the taxpayer.
35:01
Speaker 2: Is that too much to ask?
35:03
Speaker 1: Well, I think I know your answer on this one,
35:04
Speaker 1: but really quickly, is this saga going to make any
35:07
Speaker 1: difference to the behavior at the ABC at all?
35:11
Speaker 2: No?
35:11
Speaker 1: Next question, fair enough, ask a silly question. You get
35:15
Speaker 1: that kind of answer.
35:17
Speaker 2: Well.
35:17
Speaker 1: Jewish leaders were left fuming after Victorian PREMIERJCENTA. Allen didn't
35:22
Speaker 1: propose a traditional toast to Israel at a function to
35:25
Speaker 1: celebrate the anniversary of Israel's independence last night. Now it
35:30
Speaker 1: is apparently caterers were not told that she would not
35:35
Speaker 1: be proposing a toast to Israel. So the glasses were
35:38
Speaker 1: all full, everyone's there, ready to give a toast, and
35:40
Speaker 1: it just never happened. Apparently the premier felt it would
35:44
Speaker 1: be inappropriate tensions being high as they are, to toast
35:48
Speaker 1: Israel on its day of independence. I mean that after
35:52
Speaker 1: she gave a speech slamming anti Semitism.
35:55
Speaker 3: Please. This is indicative of the plague that has be
35:59
Speaker 3: set labor leaders across the board in this nation. And
36:03
Speaker 3: that plague is called zero conviction. So she rocks up
36:07
Speaker 3: to this event because she wants to press the flesh,
36:09
Speaker 3: she wants to shore up the Jewish vote, she wants
36:12
Speaker 3: the photo op, but she's not actually celebrating Israel at all.
36:17
Speaker 3: In fact, her office ask this event, yes, we'll attend
36:21
Speaker 3: as long as we can agree. I won't participate in that.
36:24
Speaker 3: Premiers of Victoria have traditionally always done this toast apparently,
36:29
Speaker 3: and so this slight was not missed by the attendees.
36:32
Speaker 3: If I was in charge of the caterers, I would
36:35
Speaker 3: have told them to do exactly what they did, because
36:37
Speaker 3: it showed her up. We're expecting a toast, we normally
36:41
Speaker 3: have a toast. And here's the thing that the premiere
36:44
Speaker 3: of Victoria seemed to miss. Here, you're not toasting the war, okay,
36:48
Speaker 3: you are toasting the bastion of democracy, the only standing
36:53
Speaker 3: one who has to fight for every inch of life
36:55
Speaker 3: it's got and is still doing so to this day.
36:58
Speaker 3: That is what You're toasting, their independence. You're toasting their
37:02
Speaker 3: very existence. If you can't do that, don't talk to
37:06
Speaker 3: us about oh, anti Semitism.
37:08
Speaker 2: And she's just trying to play both teams. At the
37:11
Speaker 2: end of the day.
37:12
Speaker 3: For the premiere, this obviously comes down to votes. She
37:16
Speaker 3: wants to attend these events, but she doesn't want to
37:18
Speaker 3: be seen as too supportive, because, my goodness, that would
37:21
Speaker 3: mean you actually have conviction and you are standing with Israel,
37:26
Speaker 3: come hell or high water.
37:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean labor support a two state solutions.
37:30
Speaker 1: So what's wrong with toasting the state of Israel.
37:35
Speaker 5: There's nothing wrong with it. I think, Liz, it wouldn't
37:37
Speaker 5: so much be no conviction as hiding their real conviction,
37:41
Speaker 5: which is that they most left leaning lead is not
37:43
Speaker 5: just in Australia but across the West don't support Israel.
37:47
Speaker 5: They don't feel it in their bones. They think that
37:49
Speaker 5: they're an oppressive state, and they've got themselves into a
37:53
Speaker 5: terrible bind. You said, playing both sides, and that's exactly right.
37:57
Speaker 5: You know, we will support Israel, but we won't let
37:59
Speaker 5: them finish the job in Rafa. We will spry and
38:04
Speaker 5: make this kind of appeasement to the lefty looney fringe
38:08
Speaker 5: which thinks that they're committing genocide, but will also be
38:11
Speaker 5: seen to be a good citizen. The fact that we
38:13
Speaker 5: will go to this event we won't then toast to
38:16
Speaker 5: Israel is a lovely little symbol of the bind that
38:19
Speaker 5: left lead. Left leaning leaders bind themselves in on this
38:22
Speaker 5: issue and then result is that they're not pleasing anyone.
38:26
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's go to New South Wales, where
38:29
Speaker 1: a barrister who questioned the use of gender neutral titles
38:32
Speaker 1: in court has been sacked as the chair of one
38:35
Speaker 1: of the state Bar's central committees. It seems Lindsay Ellison
38:39
Speaker 1: sc didn't want to play along with the Bar Association's
38:41
Speaker 1: LGBTQI principles of inclusiveness. Liz Lindsay Ellison was dumped from
38:48
Speaker 1: the committee because, as well as questioning the use of
38:52
Speaker 1: gender neutral titles, he has on his Chambers website his
38:57
Speaker 1: pronouns which he lists. You're laughing already.
39:00
Speaker 3: Because I know his pronouns he haw he haw ha
39:03
Speaker 3: ha ha.
39:03
Speaker 2: Yeah.
39:04
Speaker 1: You're not making that up though? Is that just say
39:05
Speaker 1: to get what to his pronouns? He haw he haw
39:07
Speaker 1: ha ha ha? Is that funny or is it inappropriate?
39:10
Speaker 2: Well?
39:11
Speaker 3: I think he is doing what we should all do,
39:14
Speaker 3: is railing against compelled speech.
39:16
Speaker 2: That's what it is.
39:17
Speaker 3: I don't use people's preferred pronouns anymore than I talk
39:20
Speaker 3: to their imaginary friends. I'm not going to say something
39:24
Speaker 3: that I do not believe in. And he was quite
39:27
Speaker 3: right to question the use of mx' that's actually one
39:32
Speaker 3: that I haven't heard of. And if people can make
39:35
Speaker 3: up their own pronouns, and that's what these are, they
39:37
Speaker 3: are made up words, why shouldn't he be able to
39:41
Speaker 3: go by he haw he haw. I mean he's simply
39:44
Speaker 3: highlighting the fact this does not work. It is not
39:47
Speaker 3: based in fact, it is something that people have made up,
39:51
Speaker 3: So I've made up my.
39:52
Speaker 2: Own as well.
39:53
Speaker 1: Will legal profession meant to be dealing? In fact, he
39:56
Speaker 1: gets sacked over this. What do you make of it?
40:00
Speaker 5: Well, it shows that the legal profession is just as
40:03
Speaker 5: captured by gender ideology as pretty much every other societal institution.
40:09
Speaker 5: But at the same time, I think this highlights that
40:11
Speaker 5: the tide is turning. This has always been one of
40:14
Speaker 5: those things where ninety percent of people quietly, in hush
40:17
Speaker 5: tones you go that this is nonsense, but they're afraid
40:20
Speaker 5: to call it out because of the repercussions like the
40:23
Speaker 5: ones that are that Lindsay has seen here. But I
40:26
Speaker 5: just feel with the cast review in the UK, which
40:28
Speaker 5: has shown that this is an appalling ideology with very
40:33
Speaker 5: nasty consequences for children, that more people are having the
40:36
Speaker 5: consequences to take, are having the guts I should say
40:39
Speaker 5: to take the piss out of this sort of stuff.
40:40
Speaker 5: And if we have a critical mass of people doing that,
40:43
Speaker 5: then those societal institutions like the Bar Association are going
40:46
Speaker 5: to be left very isolated and they'll have to change
40:49
Speaker 5: what is, you know, ultimately a very harmful and very
40:52
Speaker 5: silly position.
40:53
Speaker 1: All right, Before I let you too go, I want
40:56
Speaker 1: to ask you about a story that got my attention today.
40:58
Speaker 1: So we've got a lot happening in the world politically
41:00
Speaker 1: at the moment right indeed. So we've got China, they're
41:03
Speaker 1: surrounding Taiwan with warships intimidating them. We've got Russia lobbing
41:07
Speaker 1: missiles into Ukraine. You know what North Korea are doing?
41:11
Speaker 1: There is a report in the papers today saying they've
41:13
Speaker 1: been sending balloons over the border into South Korea. And
41:16
Speaker 1: these balloons are filled with rubbish and I quote toilet
41:21
Speaker 1: paper and suspected animal pooh oh wow. Is this biological warfare?
41:26
Speaker 1: Or is North Korea now being run by a twelve
41:28
Speaker 1: year old boy?
41:29
Speaker 3: It's certainly not diplomacy, that's for sure.
41:32
Speaker 2: This is what we think of you.
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Speaker 3: I want to know if there's a note attached, and.
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Speaker 2: If so, what does it say?
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Speaker 3: Or do they think the contents of these balloons speak
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Speaker 3: for themselves?
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Speaker 2: What are they hoping to achieve here?
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Speaker 1: Well, totalitarian dic shate dictatorships. I mean, they should even
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Speaker 1: have standards, shouldn't they.
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Speaker 5: No, I think this is great. I think if all
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Speaker 5: war was forought, this way, the world would be a
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Speaker 5: much better place, or be a slightly less hygienic place.
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Speaker 5: And I think kind of the teenager's Guide to warfare
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Speaker 5: needs to be adopted everywhere you go behind enemy lines
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Speaker 5: and toilet paper houses or graffiti Genitalia on government buildings.
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Speaker 5: I think this is a much better alternative to New
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Speaker 5: king South Korea. I'm all for it.
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Speaker 1: I was going to say, as disgusting as it is,
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Speaker 1: if that's all they've got, I guess it's a good
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Speaker 1: news story. Well, thanks guys, I appreciate your time. Liz
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Speaker 1: of course, will be back at ten pm for the
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Speaker 1: late debate, do not miss that. Coming up, we'll go
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Speaker 1: live to London for the latest on the UK election,
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Speaker 1: as the Labor Party practically begs for Muslim votes. Patrick
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Speaker 1: Christie's joins me next. Well, not much has changed for
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Speaker 1: UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak since calling a snap election
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Speaker 1: last week. His Conservative party is still lagging in the
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Speaker 1: polls with little more than a month to go before
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Speaker 1: ballots are cast. Joining me with the latest is GB
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Speaker 1: News host Patrick Christie's. Patrick, thanks for joining me. How
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Speaker 1: you doing.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, sound very well? Thank you. Exciting times here, Exciting times.
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Speaker 1: Could exciting for you, but not so exciting for Rishie Sinek.
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Speaker 1: It's not looking good for the Conservatives.
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Speaker 13: No, so the polls show a mixture of the Conservative
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Speaker 13: Party being twenty three points behind or twelve points behind.
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Speaker 13: What the Prime Minister has decided to do is throw
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Speaker 13: the kitchen sink at it, so he's gone for National service,
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Speaker 13: which would mean that anyone who's eighteen years old would
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Speaker 13: either have to serve in our military or do community
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Speaker 13: work like delivering prescriptions to the elderly one month, sorry
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Speaker 13: one weekend every single month. This has gone down quite
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Speaker 13: well with older voters, less so as you would imagine
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Speaker 13: with younger voters, and there's a lack of clarity. Would this,
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Speaker 13: for example, mean that half of the England football team
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Speaker 13: would have to actually take a year out to do
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Speaker 13: national service. We await clarity on that. But they are
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Speaker 13: slightly booted in the polls by the fact that the
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Speaker 13: Labor Party has decided to do some mental stuff like
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Speaker 13: allowing sixteen year olds to have the vote and not
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Speaker 13: bothering to explain anything to anyone exactly why they should
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Speaker 13: actually have that. They are saying that if sixteen year
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Speaker 13: olds can pay tax and can serve on the front
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Speaker 13: line and they should be able to vote. The problem
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Speaker 13: is that very few sixteen year olds actually pay tax
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Speaker 13: and none of them serve on the front line. This
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Speaker 13: is seen as a shameless attempt to try to load
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Speaker 13: the dice in the socialist direction in Britain for generations
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Speaker 13: to come and would fundamentally change the landscape of British
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Speaker 13: politics forever.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of shamelessly begging for votes, the deputy leader of
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Speaker 1: the Labor Party has been caught on film practically begging,
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Speaker 1: pleading for Muslim votes. Have look at this in me?
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Speaker 9: Resigning as an MP now would bring a cease fire.
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Speaker 9: I would do it. I would do it, and if
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Speaker 9: the Labor.
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Speaker 13: Get into power, we will recognize palas guy.
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Speaker 9: I will push not only to recognize that there is
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Speaker 9: nothing to recognize at the moment that it's decimated. We
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Speaker 9: have to rebuild.
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Speaker 1: Patrick, this could be the Deputy Prime Minister of the
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Speaker 1: UK five weeks from now. What on earth is she doing?
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Speaker 1: Did I hear her right? Did she say she would
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Speaker 1: resign her position in Parliament if it could cause a
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Speaker 1: cease fire to breakout in Gaza?
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Speaker 13: Honestly, look, can I ask you to sponsor me when
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Speaker 13: I claim asylum in Australia in a few years time.
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Speaker 9: Please, this is absolutely horrendous.
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Speaker 13: What's going on here, the most visible sign yet that
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Speaker 13: I've ever seen of British politics on the left taking
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Speaker 13: the knee to Islam, surrounded by a load of Muslim
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Speaker 13: men in what looked like the backroom of a mosque,
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Speaker 13: who couldn't even look at a not a woman in sight,
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Speaker 13: highlighting the sectarianism. And I would argue sexism at the
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Speaker 13: moment among certain quarters in British politics. That is, the
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Speaker 13: deputy leader of the Labor Party, the woman who could
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Speaker 13: be our deputy Prime Minister, saying that she would resign,
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Speaker 13: She would the Labor Party would recognize Palestine as a state.
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Speaker 13: Salmon Rushdie himself came out and said that we are
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Speaker 13: seeing support for her mass growing in that region. All
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Speaker 13: the opinion polls over there suggested so a recognized free
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Speaker 13: Palestinian state would be an internationally recognized terrorist state, which
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Speaker 13: does not seem like a particularly good idea to me.
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Speaker 13: We have at the moment independent candidates running for election
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Speaker 13: at this election with the Palestinian flag behind them and
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Speaker 13: the slogan lend Gazi your vote. We had police officers
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Speaker 13: smashed in the face with a glass. They've suffered serious
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Speaker 13: facial injuries and a pro Palestine protest just the other day.
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Speaker 13: The Labor Party has decided that they want to win
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Speaker 13: these people back, just wave them off. What the problem
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Speaker 13: is for Labor is that they called it the Muslim
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Speaker 13: votes in Britain, which has been growing steadily now for decades.
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Speaker 13: They took it for granted. That vote has turned against them,
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Speaker 13: and now they will literally do anything to get it back,
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Speaker 13: including begging a room full of men for their vote.
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Speaker 13: Spoiler alert, she won't get it anyway.
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Speaker 1: Unbelievable stuff. One more thing, Richie Sunek before he called
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Speaker 1: the election, one of the last things he did was
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Speaker 1: to pass emergency legislation benning anyone under eighteen from being
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Speaker 1: prescribed puberty blockers. Now, the NHS has already stopped prescribing them. Now, however,
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Speaker 1: any doctor in the UK who prescribes these drugs to
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Speaker 1: miners will be struck off. The band lasts until September third.
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Speaker 1: Why is it emergency legislation and what happens after September third?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, it's emergency legislation because it is an emergency.
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Speaker 9: I'm afraid.
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Speaker 13: We've had wild West doctors having out puberty blockers like
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Speaker 13: they were a candy at a sweet shop, and it's
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Speaker 13: been going on for too long. And what we are
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Speaker 13: now seeing is the backlash to that from people who
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Speaker 13: say I was vulnerable. I had co issues such as
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Speaker 13: things unfortunately like autism et cetera, or other conditions that
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Speaker 13: perhaps in some ways led them down that direction, and
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Speaker 13: there was a ready supply of doctors who were willing
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Speaker 13: to take drastic action. There is a massive fear about
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Speaker 13: what happens after this general elect Would a Labor party
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Speaker 13: that again has called it a certain demographic of the
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Speaker 13: pro LGBT brigade there, would they renegue on some of
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Speaker 13: these issues. What they have already said they to though,
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Speaker 13: is make it easier for anyone who's over the age
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Speaker 13: of eighty to legally change gender. That is a good
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Speaker 13: line of attack for the Conservative Party that if you
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Speaker 13: vote Labor conceiemably you will have more men in women
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Speaker 13: changing rooms. But when it comes to the kids, that
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Speaker 13: is a massive concern. And it remains to be seen
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Speaker 13: exactly what will happen, Whether we will go back to
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Speaker 13: dogs as prescribing that medication.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, It will be interesting to see if Australian politicians
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Speaker 1: and what's watching what's happening there in the UK, and
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Speaker 1: whether we'll ever get an inquiry into puberty blockers in
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Speaker 1: this country. Patrick, thanks so much for your time. Well
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Speaker 1: next week, but don't go anywhere, because up right now
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Speaker 1: is Sherry Markson