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NFL Week 4 - Sunday Shippers | Main Slate | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems go.
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  Speaker 2: Clear to lift off.
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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone? Tyler Tamblyn here, a.k.a. Toe Tagging Tambo,
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  Speaker 1: back for another edition of Sunday Shippers Week 4. You
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  Speaker 1: can tell, losing my voice, it's a Tambo flu game
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  Speaker 1: coming in here, but we got my boys, Tidal and Hoop,
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  Speaker 1: here with me as always. 12 games to break down. Hoop,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to kick it to you first, man, losing
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  Speaker 1: the voice already.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not going to lie, it's coming out of the
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  Speaker 2: gate way worse than I thought. I mean, a little
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  Speaker 2: chat before the show, it didn't seem that bad. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it sounds like you might be going down, so... You know,
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  Speaker 2: me and title are here to carry the load. I
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  Speaker 2: know it's going to pain you to have to sit
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  Speaker 2: back and listen. Everyone that follows you knows how much
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  Speaker 2: you'd like to talk. This is going to be tough.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's probably gonna be tougher than the, than
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  Speaker 2: the illness that you have actually having to sitting, sit
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  Speaker 2: back and listen to me and title do most of
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  Speaker 2: the talking today, but Hey, That's why we're a trio.
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  Speaker 2: That's why we're a team. We've been here for three years.
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  Speaker 2: We got your back today, man. We got your back.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate it, man. Yeah, there's all these good one-liners
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  Speaker 1: I had and jokes today, and I'm not sure how
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  Speaker 1: many I'll get to, but title, bring you in, man.
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  Speaker 1: How you doing, my friend?
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  Speaker 3: Great. Another Sunday, week four, big prizes, both sites, money
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  Speaker 3: to be made. So yeah, I'll talk more as it
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  Speaker 3: goes on, but that's all I got right now. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: International game about to kick off here shortly. We got
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  Speaker 1: the codes. Hoop, I'll kick it to you first. 12 games.
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  Speaker 1: Few in the afternoon. Late swap opportunities. But give us
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  Speaker 1: your grand scheme overview.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, still have a lot of games. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: This slate is pretty similar to, you know, last week.
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  Speaker 2: And it seems like a lot of these slates have
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  Speaker 2: been relatively similar when you start kind of going through
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  Speaker 2: and looking at the games, looking at the positions, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just kind of focusing in on the positions out of
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  Speaker 2: the gate quarterback. Very spread out, as always, especially when
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  Speaker 2: you have more games. We've got the 12 games today,
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  Speaker 2: so it's going to definitely be spread out. Um, the
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  Speaker 2: only guy I'm seeing with, uh, over 10% ownership is
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  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, but still that's like 11, 12%. So really nothing.
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  Speaker 2: And if you like the game, you like the spot,
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  Speaker 2: which we'll talk to, cause it is probably the most important.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about it. Cause it's probably the most important
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  Speaker 2: game on the slate. Cause there is a lot of ownership, uh,
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  Speaker 2: in that game, but there's ways to play it, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and get a little bit different, I think. So we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about that. Uh, but any other quarterback after him,
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  Speaker 2: like in terms of just looking at ownership, um, you know,
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  Speaker 2: not much at all. So easy to get overweight. Running
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  Speaker 2: back position seems like we've had this same situation for
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  Speaker 2: quite a few weeks here where we have some studs
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  Speaker 2: at the top. We got CMC, we got Derek Henry,
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  Speaker 2: and I think we can definitely now put Kenneth Walker
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  Speaker 2: in that category of studs. So we have the studs
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  Speaker 2: and then specifically talking about DraftKings pricing, there's a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of guys are in that 6k range that are very
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  Speaker 2: viable plays. on the slate, there are some guys I
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  Speaker 2: think that, that get a little overlooked today. Like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: James Cook maybe is a guy that I think the
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  Speaker 2: ownership will, you know, come down on, uh, not we're
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  Speaker 2: showing like, Oh, we're showing like 11%. I think he's
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  Speaker 2: going to end up being sub 10. So there's going
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  Speaker 2: to be situations like that, that we can talk about
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  Speaker 2: throughout the show, but you have the studs, you have
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  Speaker 2: the six K ish sort of guys. And there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of them wide receiver position, uh, again, have the
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  Speaker 2: studs at the top. If you want them, JSN is now,
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  Speaker 2: I guess this is an interesting dynamic where JSN is
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  Speaker 2: now like in a tier almost of his own 9,100.
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  Speaker 2: The next most expensive guy is Jamar Chase. Uh, I
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  Speaker 2: had to guess JSN is probably right around 10%. And
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of where he's been all season, every slate,
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  Speaker 2: like right around 10% owned. So if you want to
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  Speaker 2: make a play on, on JSN, pretty easy to do so.
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  Speaker 2: And you don't have to worry about ownership. You can
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  Speaker 2: get way over if you want. Uh, It'll be a
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  Speaker 2: similar situation today where it's probably going to be right
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  Speaker 2: around that 10%. And people just don't want to, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: play him at a high level. And now I guess
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  Speaker 2: there's another reason not to because of the price type,
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  Speaker 2: but he's been nuking every single slate. I mean, just
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  Speaker 2: an absolute stud. We do have some value at the
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  Speaker 2: slate with Devonta Smith out. Wicks will be pretty popular. No,
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  Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson out. Jordan Addison will be pretty popular. The
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  Speaker 2: Packers are down a few guys. I think Matthew Golden,
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  Speaker 2: our guy Nades, loves Matthew Golden. We have to bring
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  Speaker 2: that up every single time. He's beaten that drum.
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  Speaker 3: All last year.
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  Speaker 2: But the crazy part is Nades needed to follow up
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  Speaker 2: because last year he's talking about this dude every slate
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  Speaker 2: and he sucked all season. Now he's producing and Nades
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  Speaker 2: is quiet about Matthew Golden. So he's got to bring
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  Speaker 2: it up a little bit. But a lot of guys value,
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  Speaker 2: I'd say, sort of guys. Parker Washington is going to
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  Speaker 2: get some ownership. Like T. Higgins is going to be
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  Speaker 2: pretty popular at the position. So a lot of guys
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  Speaker 2: at wide receiver, like always. And then really good tight
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  Speaker 2: end slate. I think tight end is probably the most
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  Speaker 2: important position on the slate, like what you do at
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  Speaker 2: tight end, because you have the studs. You have the
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  Speaker 2: studs that you want. We got Bowers. We got McBride.
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  Speaker 2: We got Kittle. You can even, I'd say, throw into
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  Speaker 2: that category. Mike Evans expected to play, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to be full go, even
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  Speaker 2: if he does play. So I don't know. The wording
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  Speaker 2: on it was a little weird, so maybe it's not expected.
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  Speaker 2: We can kind of touch on that when we get there.
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  Speaker 2: But we have the studs, and then you have value
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  Speaker 2: as well at tight end. So tight end to me,
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  Speaker 2: like what you do at tight end, I think is
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  Speaker 2: pretty damn important, obviously, because on DraftKings specifically, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people like saving the money. You save the money
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  Speaker 2: at tight end, you can get your ass kicked today
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  Speaker 2: because you got Bowers, you got McBride, you got Kittle.
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  Speaker 2: I think all three of those could absolutely nuke this late.
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  Speaker 2: So it is a very interesting dynamic at that position specifically.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the chat was talking about double tight end as well. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: always in play with the way they set it up
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  Speaker 1: right now. And you can see that. And there's just
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  Speaker 1: so many options. And even the guys that you mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: like Kittle, is still only 5,100. He didn't get a
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  Speaker 1: big boost. Bowers... 6,900 people. It's a lot, but that's
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver one at tight end one pricing. So you're
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  Speaker 1: getting a discount just naturally got McBride. There's still just
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  Speaker 1: a ton of options. And then there's some injury spots
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  Speaker 1: as well. The back and forth of the Jags Bengals game,
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  Speaker 1: but title kick it over to you and get your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on the slate. And then we'll get into the
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  Speaker 1: first game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Who broke it down really well. I was going
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  Speaker 3: to mention the tight end position. I do think it's
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  Speaker 3: more viable to spend up than most weeks. I do
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  Speaker 3: think the value, like it's really concentrated around TJ Hawkinson.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously projections are going to like it without Justin Jefferson,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of the Vikings, but FanDuel a little closer.
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  Speaker 3: I actually do think spending up at tight end is
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  Speaker 3: very viable, even in the cash streets. I'm in a
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  Speaker 3: big decision over there. I mean, Trey McBride, Brock Bowers,
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  Speaker 3: we saw Bowers first game back, like that onesie position
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  Speaker 3: can definitely separate. I do think we'll see more three
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  Speaker 3: running backs and maybe we've seen all year Just a
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  Speaker 3: lot of strong ones in the low 6K, high 5Ks.
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  Speaker 3: No Gibbs on the slate. No Bijan on the slate,
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  Speaker 3: but McCaffrey in a solid spot too. And then Kenneth Walker,
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  Speaker 3: Derrick Henry, James Cook. I do think the opportunity cost
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  Speaker 3: at running back when you don't play three is pretty high,
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  Speaker 3: but is a way to get different on a chalkier slate.
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  Speaker 3: Wide receiver is still kind of concentrating. I mean, they
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  Speaker 3: refused to move up Parker Washington's price. Addison without Jefferson. Wicks,
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  Speaker 3: like we talked about, without Devonta Smith, but I still
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  Speaker 3: think that's a position that you can get different. If
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  Speaker 3: I had to fade any chalk at any position, it's
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  Speaker 3: almost always wide receiver nowadays. There's just so many options
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  Speaker 3: and guys at low ownership that can explode. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a good 12-gamer. I mean, these slates
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  Speaker 3: are about to start shrinking pretty soon here with the
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  Speaker 3: bye weeks coming up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also, I think, probably the best slate so
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  Speaker 1: far this season from a game theory perspective. There's just
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  Speaker 1: a lot of places you can go, and then there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of moves that you can make that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I always joke about, I call it the penthouse process.
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  Speaker 1: Like you're thinking different levels to this stuff. That's, this
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  Speaker 1: is a good slate for that. And we'll get right
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  Speaker 1: into it. So title, I'm going to start with you.
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  Speaker 1: We've got the Patriots at the bills who brought it
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  Speaker 1: up earlier, James cook. And then you brought up running
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  Speaker 1: back as a whole. And like, there's so many options.
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  Speaker 1: Just don't think James cook can get clicked enough, but
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  Speaker 1: also as much as people might like Josh Allen. And
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  Speaker 1: we talk about this every week where, you know, there's
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  Speaker 1: opportunity This week, no C. Gonzalez over C. Gonzalez. I
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  Speaker 1: said that weird, but over on the Patriots side. So
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  Speaker 1: DJ Moore, guys like that, you know, could be in
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  Speaker 1: the mix there. But what's your thoughts on the bills
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  Speaker 1: at home versus the Patriots?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, really just a one sided interest. I mean, the
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  Speaker 3: bills are implied for twenty nine points, the most on
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  Speaker 3: the slate. It's just they don't expect really the Patriots
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  Speaker 3: to keep up. And how can you with how Drake
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  Speaker 3: May has played so far this year? So, Really no
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  Speaker 3: interest on any single Patriot, like a Matt Collins at 4K,
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  Speaker 3: I guess. If you want to get contrarian in that range, fine.
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  Speaker 3: That's mainly in Josh Allen stacks, I think. When playing
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  Speaker 3: Josh Allen, definitely you can always play Josh. He's expensive.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, no Christian Gonzalez is huge for this Patriots team.
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  Speaker 3: So without him, Josh can do whatever he wants. DJ Moore,
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  Speaker 3: Dalton Kincaid probably would just stack it, like skinny stack it.
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  Speaker 3: because you're already spending a good amount of money. And
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  Speaker 3: when Josh Foley gets there you expect him to get
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  Speaker 3: one or two on the ground so I don't love
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  Speaker 3: the double stacks Kincaid at tight end DJ Moore both
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  Speaker 3: showing single digit ownership and if you're not doing that
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  Speaker 3: yeah I think James Cook in a very solid spot
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  Speaker 3: at 7400 the problem is he could score 23 which
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  Speaker 3: is definitely a solid game and still be nowhere near
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  Speaker 3: the winner so it's hard to love love anything in
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  Speaker 3: this game because of their pricing but at ownership, I'm
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  Speaker 3: definitely interested in some of these bills. And I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you could play this bill stack every single week and
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  Speaker 3: you'll probably come out profitable long-term because at this ownership,
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  Speaker 3: they can explode.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Hoop, what do you think on this one here?
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  Speaker 1: Any Alan Love, James Cook, anything on the Patriot side
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  Speaker 1: at all?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not really too much more to add. I pretty
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  Speaker 2: much agree with what, what title said. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Josh Allen, low ownership. Yeah. I mean, 40 point upside in,
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  Speaker 2: don't want to double stack it. I'd probably play him
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  Speaker 2: with DJ Moore. If you want Kincaid, if you want nothing,
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  Speaker 2: nothing on the Patriot side, it's one of those situations.
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  Speaker 2: I get it. Like someone put in the chat, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Drake may will be 1%. Yeah, totally fine. And like, just,
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  Speaker 2: I still don't want to play Drake. May this team
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  Speaker 2: has looked like absolute dog shit. And, you know, clearly
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  Speaker 2: the easy schedule they had last year was you can
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  Speaker 2: attribute that to a lot of the success they had
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  Speaker 2: because this team looks horrible. Maybe they turn him up.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. It's only week four, but
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  Speaker 2: I got to see something before I click any of
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  Speaker 2: these names. So nothing on the Patriots side. And then
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  Speaker 2: James Cook for sure going to have him in the
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  Speaker 2: player pool. But he's got to do something big. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there's probably a very high scoring slate at the running
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  Speaker 2: back position. I think it would be. And it usually is.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, these guys are a lot of so many
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  Speaker 2: studs in the NFL at the running back position. So
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  Speaker 2: he's got to put up something big. And at the
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  Speaker 2: low ownership, I think it's lower position. we're showing 12%.
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  Speaker 2: I think it could come down a little bit. I
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  Speaker 2: think it could be even like 7% or 8%. I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if that's James Cook ownership. At that number,
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  Speaker 2: he's a good play, so I'll have him in the
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  Speaker 2: player pool.
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  Speaker 1: I like more one-offs in this game. Like you said,
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  Speaker 1: I think James Cook, a really good play, $ 7, 400, just
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  Speaker 1: the way he fits the builds. He's a bit more
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  Speaker 1: than when we get to all the guys later, like
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  Speaker 1: Scat and Love and jones senior and all those things
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  Speaker 1: and we know james cook can bust out 150 yards
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  Speaker 1: and two touchdowns very capable good spot big team total
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  Speaker 1: favorites at home patriots have looked bad do what you
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  Speaker 1: got to do but i i think that's an opportunity
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  Speaker 1: there dj moore i think it's fine if you want
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  Speaker 1: to connect the receiver to a really good quarterback but
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  Speaker 1: not have to go all the way with the stack
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  Speaker 1: i think at 5700 he can still pay off and
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  Speaker 1: then kincaid is someone that people want to you know,
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  Speaker 1: a bunch this season so far. And now not really, buddy,
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  Speaker 1: like not really anyone wants them at 5,300. So he's
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  Speaker 1: right there as well. So I think any of those guys,
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  Speaker 1: if you were going to a Patriot, probably like Dobbs,
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  Speaker 1: but maybe just Matt Collins to speed it up. But
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  Speaker 1: in portfolios, you'll have stacks of Allen, but I'm not
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure it out too much in this one.
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  Speaker 1: Go to you on this one, who big game, biggest
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  Speaker 1: game of the slate, probably. This is what everybody wants
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  Speaker 1: to talk about. So we'll get it started. So Bengals
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  Speaker 1: at home versus the Jags. And you said it, there's
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  Speaker 1: a ton of different ways. So I'll say this, the,
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  Speaker 1: you know, over at Chippin Nation, we've got the stone
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  Speaker 1: and we label the games and people kept saying, oh,
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  Speaker 1: there's never really been any chalky games yet this year
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  Speaker 1: so far. It's still spread out. And all these games,
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  Speaker 1: 13 games late, 12 games late this week, all of that.
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  Speaker 1: This is a chalky game. It's the first one we
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  Speaker 1: got all season. Still ways to get different. Hoop will
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  Speaker 1: go into it here, but you know, Chase Brown, T Higgins,
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  Speaker 1: Parker Washington, Trevor Lawrence is even separating a little bit
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  Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. It still keeps them, you know,
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  Speaker 1: 10 to 15 range versus anything crazy, but this is
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  Speaker 1: the spot hoop. So take us through how you're thinking
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  Speaker 1: about this game. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the most important part about this game is
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  Speaker 2: going to be, a lot of the pieces are going
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  Speaker 2: to be relatively highly owned and there's no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 2: No one like Parker Washington, they won't bring the price up,
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  Speaker 2: but I believe title is one that brought that up.
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  Speaker 2: It's just, he's underpriced. If you go to any site
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  Speaker 2: and kind of sort the wide receiver position by value,
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  Speaker 2: he's going to be somewhere at the top. So, you know,
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  Speaker 2: this is one of those games. If you like it,
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  Speaker 2: like to me, don't just say, Oh, I'm not playing
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  Speaker 2: it because of ownership, like play it in a different
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  Speaker 2: way than what the field is playing. And if you
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  Speaker 2: go into this game, Right. OK, this like if you
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  Speaker 2: go into this game and you're hand building a team,
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  Speaker 2: you say I'm playing Trevor Lawrence. I'm playing Parker Washington
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  Speaker 2: and I'm going to run it back with with Chase Brown.
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  Speaker 2: Just don't do that. Like, that's what everyone's doing. Trevor Lawrence,
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  Speaker 2: Parker Washington and run it back with with Jamar Chase. Like,
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  Speaker 2: that's what everyone's doing. So don't do it. So the
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  Speaker 2: important part to me in this game is not necessarily
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  Speaker 2: to argue whether or not these are good plays or not,
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  Speaker 2: because individually, a lot of these guys are really good plays.
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  Speaker 2: It's how can you play this game? different than the field.
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  Speaker 2: At the quarterback position, play Burrow over Trevor Lawrence. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of people are just going to be playing Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 2: Play Burrow. Play Tootin in any sort of way, like
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  Speaker 2: a one-off situation or include him in a game stack
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  Speaker 2: because a lot of people are going to be playing
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  Speaker 2: Chase Brown. Take a look at some of these Jaguars'
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  Speaker 2: secondary receivers. Not a very comfortable situation, but Jacoby Myers
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  Speaker 2: still had What was it, like eight targets, I believe,
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  Speaker 2: last week? Yeah, he had eight targets in that game.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: So he's still a part of this offense. A lot
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: of people are just looking at Parker Washington, and Parker
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Washington's definitely wide receiver one. But take a look at
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Jacoby Myers, the Brian Thomas stuff. That was probably a
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: little bit more difficult. He's been complete ass. Let's see. Yeah,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: I'd draw the line probably at Brian Thomas. Brian Thomas,
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: but a tight end position. We know where the ownership's
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: going at, at tight end. People are going to pay up.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: People are going to look to Hawkinson. People are going
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: to look to, to Kittle, Bretton strange at 3,200, like
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: a perfect pivot off of TJ Hawkinson. Who's going to
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: be probably the, the go-to cheap option on the Bengal side.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: You know, a little bit more difficult to identify the
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: lower owned options because Jamar chase is going to be owned.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: It's really consolidated offensive. Jamar Chase obviously going to be owned. T.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Higgins is too cheap. So not as it's just more
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: difficult to find the lower owned options on the Bengals side.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: You can overstock this one. So a lot of different
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: ways to play this game and be different from the field.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: And I think that's what you need to do if
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: you're getting involved here.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a bunch of stuff, but I'll let
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: you roll first on this one.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, pretty hard. I mean, great breakdown by Hoop.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: It really comes down to it's the biggest total by
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: about three points. It's going to get a ton of ownership.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: When you talk about the running backs like Chase Brown,
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: it feels just looking at his price at $ 6, 100. If
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: you're in the best ball streets, I mean, this guy
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: was going like mid-second round, early second round, and now
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: he's in the best game environment. The usage has been fine.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: He can catch the ball out of the backfield. They're
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: implied for a lot of points. Like just looking, he'd
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: be probably– one and a half times owned if there
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: just wasn't the Aaron Jones, Jeremiah Love, like the range
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: is just really loaded with mispriced plays. So he's definitely
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: someone that I think the floor is really high and
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: obviously the ceiling is as well. So him and Parker,
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Parker Washington, my favorite two pieces in this game, even
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: as one offs, when you play him as one offs,
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: you should have a lower own stack like a Josh Allen.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: It would fit or something like that. I kind of
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: struggled to just go like all in on this game
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: because I don't know where I can get difference between,
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: amongst playing this game. Like Bretton Strange is going to
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: be one, 3,200, a very cheap tight end or pivot
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: right from Hawkinson. When you're playing Trevor Lawrence, I think
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: he makes a lot of sense as a way to
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: get different. But I mean, it's hard for me. It's
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: been really bad for Brian Thomas. I know Jacoby got
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: in the box, but the usage for him, it's clearly
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Parker Washington's show. Trevor Lawrence can use his legs. He
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: always has the rushing upside. I'm struggling to get to
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: too much outside of Lawrence, Parker, Washington, and Bretton Strange
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: when it comes to the stacking. Then the other side
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: for the Bengals, it's so condensed with them with T. Higgins, Chase,
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: and Chase Brown. So when I play this game, I
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: really just think I'm going to eat most of the
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: chalk pieces. And then from there, my other part of
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: the lineup is going to be like, like I said,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Kincaid and Josh Young. We only talked about one game
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: so far, but they're in single digits. It's going to
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: be a stack that's off the board. And then this
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: piece or whether, or I stack this game and I
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: play other different games as a way to get different
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: in the lineup or vice versa. But yeah, it's, I mean,
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: it's a good game environment. I'm not going to ignore
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: it by any means. Each individual lineup though, should tell
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: a story for your contest and do know if you're
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: in the $ 1, 500, 282 person contest, like this ownership is
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: going to be even inflated relative to the $ 20 Miller
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Millie maker. So know that as well.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So like I said, I got a bunch here.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I'm glad it's an early game case. I fully lose
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: this thing, but just noting it, From a game theory perspective,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: tons of really good options. First of all, I think
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: there's like five other games on the slate you could
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: go to. I know they don't have the same total
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: by some points. I know they don't have all the
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: same stacking options, but this game is just loaded with
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: ownership like we talked about. So it's hard to really separate.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: There's ways to do it. These guys just broke it
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: down perfectly. But I did one yesterday with Blickle. First
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: of all, Tootin'. And Higgins is basically the same 2v2
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: as Chase Brown and Parker Washington. We actually only have
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: it projecting like two points less. And if you have
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the game going that way, I know you're probably not
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: out there physically changing your projection, but mentally you are, right?
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: You're saying it's going to go a different way than
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: you expected. That would leverage Lawrence and the stacks. That
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: would leverage Parker Washington because you got Tootin. It's the
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: opposite running back of Chase Brown. And then Higgins is
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: on the opposite side for a little bit. less of
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: the money of Parker Washington. The other thing is I
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: get the Parker Washington situation title brought it up earlier though.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: When you have chalk wide receivers, anybody who's been playing
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: this game, any length of time, they can definitely bust.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: It's not the same as all these other positions. Second
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: of all, did you know of the day Parker Washington's
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: broke 20 draft Kings points three times in 2025, 2026.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Like it's not like he's out here breaking slates.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: He's he's 6,500. It could be 71, 75, whatever you
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: want to put them at based on his opportunities, but
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: it doesn't mean it's going to happen. And then the
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: other side of it is like the losers that nobody– Myers,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: he sucked. Brian Thomas Jr. washed. So far, yeah. And
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: what we've seen, even Brian Thomas Jr. last year, I
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: get it. But if you start the season off and
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: look at it from this perspective, Brian Thomas Jr. played
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: the guy we talked about earlier, Gonzalez. Gonzalez. He played
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: certain and then week one, they got blown out. It
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: was a blow up the Cleveland game. So it's like,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: what if you want to get different in this game?
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: That's a prime way to do it. You flip to
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: the borough side. You can go borough. You can stack
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: them with any of those guys. But if you go
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: borough chase Higgins and then save the money on the
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: other side with Myers or Brian Thomas jr. Now you
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: can still build a really nice lineup around it. You
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: can go tootin and the Jags D you can go
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: tootin and Higgins instead of Brown and And, um, Washington,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: here's the interesting thing on last piece on that one, Brown,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Washington could happen, but I think it's going to be
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: more of like, that would be where you have the
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Gibbs Wilson last week. And then realize all the game
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: stacks come up over the top of you. And you're like, damn,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I got the two guys, but I didn't have Sadiq
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: and Gino and all the other stuff that you needed there.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: In this game, if it's Tootin' and Higgins, I actually
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: think you could get away with that because it's a
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: flip and it's a change of how the game would go.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: So it doesn't necessarily mean that versus like, you know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: if you play Jamar Chase as a one-off and he
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: actually breaks the slate, somebody probably has the Burrow, Chase,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: whatever you needed on the other side. So just be
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: really cognizant of these things when you're building out this game.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: But I think there is a lot of ways. to
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: get different as opposed to just over stacking with Dante
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Myers or Gusecki and saying, but I got a couple
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: unique pieces there. Gusecki is going to be a, you know,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: 12 tight ends ahead of them on the slate, but
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: in the game stack, it would make sense. I'm just
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: saying it's still, you need a lot of things to
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: go your way first. And then you need a lot
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: of other things to not go the way that they
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: can go at the tight end position. So who bought
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: kick it back to you. I got nothing else to
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: add on that one, but we'll go to the bucks
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: and Packers up next.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, pretty ugly game, low total sitting at
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: below 40, 38 and a half. It's tough. I mean,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: with Baker out, I mean, a big downgrade to Igbuka,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Chris Gobwin, guys like that. I'm not fully going to
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: write off this Daniels guy, especially in 150. Like I'm
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: going to include him and probably pair him with somebody.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: preferably Igbuka, low-owned. And then I guess part of the
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: reason I like it, you got the clear runbacks on
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: the other side, Watson and Golden, and it's kind of
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: all you really need to worry about. So I think
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: you have a very clear, cheap-ish sort of stack that
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: not many people are going to be on. If I'm
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: hand-building teams, I'm obviously not getting there. If I'm building
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: three teams, I'm not getting there. If I'm building five,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not. If I'm building 10, I'm not getting there.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: This is going to be 20 lineups or above. And
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: to me, it's just it's a clean, clean stack that's
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: cheap and low owned. And then you can get all
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: the other studs on the slate. Like to me, like
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: stacking this up and playing. JSN, I think, makes sense.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: You know, the high expensive guy that can just go
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: off and not many people are going to get to him.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: So this would be like my stack. I would go Daniels, Igbuka.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Matthew Golden, I think, is fine. And then I put
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: JSN and then build around that. And, again, this isn't
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: a single-entry thing. This isn't a five-max thing. This is
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: 20 lineups and above. I like it. And that's pretty
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: much it. And there is some rushing upside, too, with
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: this Daniels guy. So that's how I would do it.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Good luck to the sheriff. Was in here telling us
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: about the mega ticket before and said, going with the
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Green Bay triple stack, no bucks, springbacks. That's a nice idea.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Bold move, guys. Well, I was going to say that
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: because you mentioned the other side, and I know Jalen
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Daniels sort of subbing in, but the good news is
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: you think he can do something. I want him to
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: do something so that Love has to do more because
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I like Watson. I actually think Watson's a better play
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: than Parker Washington for $ 200 more. So I like Love, Watson, Golden,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: even Tucker Craft. And I think it was our boy
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Hebrew Cheetah. Happy belated birthday. We wished him one in
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: the Discord there, but he had Teddy Hurst III. Last week,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: if you did something like love Watson, Goldenhurst, you could
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: get all the best running backs. You could get the
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: tight end pay up. Like you'd have all the money
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: in the world. So you think this could be a
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: sneaky spot here. Could be good title. You're a Packers guy.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Give us your thoughts here on this one.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: I think it's a good way to be in the
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: far left of the leaderboard when it's all said and done.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Sorry, Sheriff. Hey, with that being said, if you were
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: to do it in one thing, when it's a million
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: to first and fifth place is not crumbs, but crumbs
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: relative to first, you might as well take a shot
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: in something where it's that top heavy. When you win,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: how much do you win? It's not for me. I mean,
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: the Packers offensive line has been as bad as it gets.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: The can't run the football. So that does leave me
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: with interest in golden or Watson with love. Like if
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: you want to double, I'm sure it just feels like
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: on the slate. What I'm worried about though, is the
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Tampa side. Oh man, hoop. I, uh, Yeah, I give
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: you some praise for this Jalen Daniels wanting to play him.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: I'm worried, though. I think the best way to do
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: it is to stack nobody.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, again, it's like if you're building a lot
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: of lineups.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't stack him with anyone. I mean, the receiving props,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: 37 and a half, 25 and a half, 24 and
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: a half, 22 and a half. Yeah, and have a nice, strong.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Secondary stack in the lineup. Don't play him with– maybe
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: have him with a Green Bay guy.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Daniels with Watson or Golden or something I think is
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: the best way. I'm worried that this game just really
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: slows down. His rushing prop is actually solid. It's 33-and-a-half.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: It's Jalen Daniels. His passing prop is terrible. Bucky Irving there.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: This team is going to want to run the ball,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: and I think the Bucs can get after– I mean,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Bucs defense has been awful, but the Packers O-line, what's
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: going to cave? the D or the O, but I'm
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: worried that the game just really gets slowed down on
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: the Buccaneers side. But Golden, Watson, they have the one-play
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: home run ability, so those are two one-offs for sure
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: I want to keep in my pool. And then, yeah,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, if Jordan Love is 3% on, which he is,
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I don't mind playing a love to Watson, love to Golden.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: I don't love Kraft as much, and I don't really
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: want any Buccaneers, even in a runback or if I
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: was playing Daniels, but I don't plan.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: On doing that.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the chat mentioned Watson– close to home game said
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: he's got like 15 to 18 family members coming out
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: to watch him too. That's definitely not why I'm on
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Watson can promise you that they can watch him get
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: a zero too. But I just think it's a good
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: spot for like title said the one-off, but if you
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: do want to go with it, you know, there is
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: at least some love. And if you look at the
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: stone on the optimal rates and things like that, you
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: can get a little bit behind some of that leverage with, well,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: you'll love Watson golden and that type of thing, but yeah,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: not my favorite spot on the slate. This is a
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: good one here.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Title.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I'll stay with you. Ravens. At home, good discussion piece,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I should say, because obviously the Henry narrative stuff that
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: we talk about with playing against his old team that
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: he was with forever, first time going against them. But
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: the thing is, everyone's talking about it. Nobody's really clicking
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: it because it's $ 8, 400. And you've got later, you know,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: McCaffrey's cheap on this slate versus the price of Henry.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: You got other options and ways to build. What's your
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: thoughts on this one? You got the Ravens, big, big
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: favorites at home versus the Titans.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind of torn on what to do with
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Derrick Henry. It kind of just goes back to the
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: same James Cook conversation. Like Derrick Henry could have 100
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: on the ground, two touchdowns. If he doesn't catch the
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: passes and the opportunity costs at running back, you're not
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: guaranteed to get there. It feels like he's a lock
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: for a touchdown, though. It feels like he's almost a
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: lock for 100 yards. Like it all adds up really nicely.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: The one I have quite a bit of interest in, though,
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: compared to the field is Zay Flowers. Like just if
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: anyone has watched any bit of Ravens, this dude is electric.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: He's always open. Lamar finds them. The play action is great.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: I think the receiving prop at 70 and a half
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: is a little too low. It's really hard to click
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: that name on this slate at 6,900, like 12%. I
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if it was like 8% because people
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: aren't playing Lamar. They'd rather play Derrick Henry and not
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: that Henry's getting much ownership, but I think like we
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: have Derrick at 10, Zay at 12. I could see
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: that flipped. I think more, are likely to go Henry,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: but I don't see people playing either. Mark Andrews is
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: fine at 4,200 as a contrarian tight end, kind of
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: in a dead range. But for me, I think Zay
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Flowers for sure looks way too low on. He's going
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: to break plenty of slates this year. They said won't
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: be on a pitch count. They don't think that's great news.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: And then you had Derrick Henry. So it's mainly the individual.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're applied for 27 points on this slate. Tennessee,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: can they catch up, keep up? Probably not. But we
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: saw what happened with JSN and these good receivers. It
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily matter.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just trying to pull it up here
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: on DFS OS. You just mentioned it, but it had
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: this was from this morning. One hour ago says Zay
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Flowers not expected to have a hard pitch count Sunday.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, last week there was a death. snaps were
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: in check and it still was a huge game for
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: this guy. This is the one I'm talking about, the
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: one I'm explaining that there's no Homer on this because
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: everyone knows I'm a Ravens fan, but Zay Flowers is
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: the wrong price at 6,900. not Parker Washington at 65.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: You can, yes.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: I disagree. I think they're both wrong. I think it's
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: better than you think.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Delta to it. One, one guy's on pace to literally
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: be the best receiver this year. The other guy is,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: like I said, three games ever in the history of
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: drafting scoring over 20 points. So it's like, we're playing
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: a fantasy points game. Zay goes off in 20 whatever
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: limited snaps he had last week, and now he gets
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: back in this spot. If you're not playing Henry and
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: you're not in on it, how's this game going? How
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: are the Ravens scoring 30 points? If you think they are,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: but you're not getting to Henry. So it's like, I
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: think you should be thinking about Zay Flowers on this slate.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: There's tons of ways to plug them in to your builds.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: And I also think that's why I said I love
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: this slate from a game theory perspective. Let's say you're
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: even on like a Burrow, Chase, Higgins, and obviously... it
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: gets expensive depending on how you're building this, but I'm
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: just saying, we know we've got value running backs. It's like,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: if you can move to a Parker Washington to a
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Zay flowers, it's, and then you have, um, you can
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: have like, um, Burrow Jamar with, um, BTJ or Myers, um,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: and then use Zay Flowers. And you've got like Zay
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Flowers leveraging the Higgins stuff with the single stack, hoping
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: it's just Chase doing it. And then you've got Zay
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: leveraging the Washington stuff, but you're picking up the Washington
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: stuff from the cheaper guy to help make it fit.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: So when you see stuff like that, I think it's
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: at least somewhat interesting. But yeah, I love the spot.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Great call out on Zay. Love seeing the news this
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: morning that it could be even more in favor. And
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know what his ownership ends up getting to,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't very high before this. So we'll see.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Anything you want to add on anything Titans at all
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: or defense?
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: I can't. I can't click these Titans, man. This team
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: is this team's bad. No, I think you're just wasting
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: roster spots. Cardinal Tate, like if I had to click one,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: but you're hoping for garbage time.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Man, it's just watching tape and who gives a shit
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: because it's cardio. But man, he's just running routes on
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: boys out there. I saw somebody posted this week. These
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: are pretty insane. He's making them work and they're over
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: there and he's over there.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: It's pretty great.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: He can get loose, but unfortunately can't get him the ball.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: So that's the problem. Hoop, kick it to you. I
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: guess Ravens D is what I was saying there at
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: the end too. It's hard to pay up this week
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: at defense, but that could be a spot here too.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: That's how the Ravens would do it where it might
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: just be that kind of setup too. But go ahead. Yeah.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, probably kind of my preference. I mean, I
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I'm fine. Like I'm fine playing Zay Flowers. I think
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: he's a good play, but man, like when I play him,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I just want some push on the other side. And
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: it's like, there's just, there's nothing like on the other side.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Like I could see like Zay Flowers 80 yards into
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: a touchdown at half. Like that wouldn't surprise me at all.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: But then it's like, I want, you want more in
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: the second half and then just nothing else ends up coming.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Cause the Titans are so bad.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: So.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: You know, my preference for sure is going to be
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Derrick Henry. You compare him with the defense for the spot,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: like for the spot in the situation, like Henry is,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: we have Henry at 11% ownership. Like that is just way,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: way too low. And I get it. Like people are
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: going to want to play McCaffrey over him. People are
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: going to want to play those 6k guys over him.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: But in this spot, Derrick Henry is 11, 12, 13%,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: whatever it ends up being, is just, to me, a phenomenal,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: phenomenal play. People don't really like playing him on DK
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: because of the pass-catching stuff. I love him over there.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: I'm going to make a move on him for sure
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: on this slate and hope it's just a Derrick Henry
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: three-touchdown game.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the other way to go. Exactly.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Like I said, not enough people are doing it, and
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: it's really hard for people to get there. Like Tidal
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: said earlier, so many running back options. You can't play
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: them all, and I just don't think people will be
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: able to get to that. I'll stay with you. We'll
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: go to another one here. It's Eagles at home versus
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: the Rams.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: What a pathetic team. The Eagles are, I don't even
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: care what happens the rest of the season, that performance
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: on whatever day that was, what was it? Was it
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Monday night? It might've been Monday. Or why can't, I mean,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Jalen hurts just has to be the most gutless quarterback
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: in the NFL. It just looks like a little bitch
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: out there. Like no fight, like nothing like that was,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: that was so bad. That being said, it can't be
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: worse than it was on Monday night. I think everyone
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: is just assuming it's going to continue to be that bad.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: And maybe it is.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Maybe it is. And now everyone just wants to jam
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: the Rams defense. 2,600 is going to be so, so
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: popular on this slate. I guess my main point here
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: is I'm not necessarily getting to the Eagles, but it
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: can't be as bad as it was on Monday night.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: That was just horrible. No Devonta Smith, Wicks, Lemon, two
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: guys that you can put in there. for cheap. Zach Ertz,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I don't mind getting to him for a cheap tight end, 3,100.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: If the Rams are successful offensively, the Eagles are going
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: to have to do something. But the drawback to that
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: is they were in that situation the other night against
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: the Bears and couldn't do anything ever throughout the game.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: So that is the risk. The interesting part to me
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: on the Rams side, Puka is back and it sounds
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: like he's going to be relatively close to full go.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Now no one wants to play Devontae Adams at all,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: like 2% to 3% owned. Like this guy is obviously
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: a stud. We saw what he's capable of doing the
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: last couple weeks with Puka out. His price is to
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: a point where people don't want to click it. 2%
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: to 3% Devontae. Like let's say there is a chance
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: that Puka isn't 100%. We know he's capable of getting re-injured.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I think in tournaments, including Adams, makes a lot of sense,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: the large field stuff. And then Kyron Williams as well.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Like you have all these– running backs in this range.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: And he seems to be one that's going overlooked. And
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: if the Rams defense is going to be popular and
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: they do make sense at 2600, a little Kyron Rams
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: defense pairing and a little secondary stack within a team,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I think makes a lot of sense. So there's there's
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: stuff here to take a look at, you know, the Eagles. Oh, man,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: that's a tough, tough sledding for the Eagles for sure.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an interesting one, too, because what was the...
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I think we're waiting still on Parkinson news. He's questionable. Obviously,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Ferguson hit the IR, but what was.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I think Parkinson is.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: With Puka this morning was do not intend to limit
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: his workload. So, I mean, $ 7, 500, he's the price that
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Parker Washington should be, but he's Puka at that price already. So, Tide,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: give us your thoughts here at the Ram side of
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: the thing. $ 3, 100 Higbee if.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: No parkinson already no ferguson uh kyron 5900 just i
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people can get to the
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: spot people just want to play the defense by the
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: looks of it yeah.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I don't mind kyron for sure he is separated from
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: from quorum very strongly rams implied for about 24 games
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: supposed to stay competitive people aren't clicking the name you
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: compare them with rams defense don't mind any of that
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: my favorite play in this game though it's definitely puka
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: if this dude's not on a pitch count he's low
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: teams um because people are worried about injury or whatever
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: and he's only 7500 yeah i mean i don't know
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: if people forgot but this dude is one of the
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: best if not the best receiver in football i.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Think he has a chance to come down to the
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: ownership i think people are going to be hesitant to
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: to click the name.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: I hope so i mean this feels like a classic
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: 35 plus point performance from puka and they're going to
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: give him the ball i'm not it's not a pitch
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: count he's yeah anyone that watches puka so yeah at
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: 7500 at Three weeks from now, he might be 8,800, 9K,
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: and we'll be looking at this 10%, 7,500, and just laughing.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: So Puka, and then after that, it's a little tough.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: I don't mind Higby if Parkinson's out. I don't know
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: if it feels like chasing. He's 3,100, so it doesn't.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: And I like that Hawkinson's right in that range, so
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: he's a pivot there. But, man, this tight end slate's
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: pretty good. Like, I'm not sure 12 is going to
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: be enough. And it feels like he kind of hit
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: his ceiling last week. So I'm all aboard the Puka train.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Don't mind Kyron. when not playing Puka.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: What about your boy on the other side? $ 4, 300, Dontavion Wicks.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: I'm nervous.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Interesting spot because he is like, he's the one now.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Obviously got Lemon out there and whatever, but I'm just saying,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: it's like there is a lot of guys missing. What
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: do you think happens here?
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm nervous because I almost don't want him as
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: the one. I mean, Trent McDuffie, we always talk about
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Sertan and certain guys. I don't fade stuff for certain reasons,
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: but there is a couple names out there at corner.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Trent McDuffie is one where I'm always a little hesitant
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: if I think there's a chance that he gets followed,
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: and I don't think they're necessarily going to follow Wicks,
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: but I think it's clear that Wicks has been the
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: best receiver for sure ahead of Lemon in this spot,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: so I'm just concerned because the price has so many
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: people gravitating to them, and I think that projection might
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: even be a little high. So cash games most definitely
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: in play. Tournaments, I'm worried at this price. And I
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: don't think you need to play lemon because you're not
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: playing wicks to get different. You can just not play
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: any eagles and hope the offense continues to look buns.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: And that's what it has looked like. Jalen Hurts has
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: not given me any bit of optimism to fire up
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: a somewhat chalky receiver in a range that I can
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: find plenty of pivots. So I don't love it. Of course,
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: I'm going to play some, though. I mean, he's projecting
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: one of the better values on the slate at the price.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: But I know ball take. I'm scared.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get to that later, too, when we get
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: to the Minnesota game, I think. But same same thinking
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: here but obviously he still fits in and at 4,300
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: bucks it's whatever it's like I said you.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Go to yeah I'd rather Addison like when we get
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: to that like I prefer other chalk on this slate
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: more than he's one of the most I'm worried about
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: so let's just put it that way.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I prefer Wicks. I think a lot of people
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: use them as a one-off because it's like, give me
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: my cheap value that makes it work. But I actually
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: prefer them in something where I'm using the other side
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: because I want that to push it. If I want
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Puka to get the 35, well, maybe I want Wicks
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: to do something or Lemon to do something as well
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: to make that game go back and forth. So other
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: thing there with just Williams, Blickle talked about it yesterday.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: It was his lane on leverage lane. But if everyone's
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: playing the Rams too, it's interesting. Usually you see that
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: boost the running back, but because there's so many guys
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: at the Williams price point, that's not really someone that
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: people are getting to. So it's, it's an opposite effect.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Sometimes when the running back is popular, the defense starts
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: to pick up steam because people want to pair them together.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: This is the opposite effect. Everybody just wants to play
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: the defense and move on. You could play Kyron in
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: there as well, but I'm with you. I like Puka
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: the best. All right. I'll stay with you title. We've
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: got the giants at home versus the Cardinals talked about
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: it earlier. Love scat that's two running backs in the
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: spot that a lot of people like interested to hear
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: your takes there you've got mcbride wilson brissett i mean
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: there's a ton of different ways neighbors likely lots of
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: options here but again not a lot of love compared
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: to some of the other spots besides the running backs
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: maybe a little bit on michael wilson but there's so
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: many tight ends that even like a 12 to 15
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: on mcbride wouldn't be that much go ahead.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah i've kind of gone back like i want to
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: like this game when i do but You say not
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: a lot of ownership, which is kind of true. But
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: then if you look at the total relative to other
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: totals on this slate, like it feels relatively concentrated to
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: see four players in the double digits. I mean, but
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: we can start. Michael Wilson's one of the best plays,
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: like we always know. Just fire him up with a
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: lot of confidence. Hoops laughing, think I'm kidding. He finally
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: understands that this dude is the real deal. And it
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: only gets better when you see Jeremiah Love's going to
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: get some ownership as a nice pivot that way, if
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: you want to go that way. I do like Jeremiah Love, though,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: quite a bit.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: 5,800.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Everyone knows the talent he had at Notre Dame and
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: the expectations. He finally overtook Algier and by a pretty
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: decent margin. And I do not see why that would
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: not continue. Small favorites are the Cardinals here. So I
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: think Love is one of the best plays on the slate.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: I think Michael Wilson is one of the best plays
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: on the slate. And then Trey McBride. Like, I really
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: want to get in on him. Him versus Bowers is
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: a really interesting take or conversation. McBride more expensive on DraftKings,
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: whereas Bowers more expensive. No, McBride's more on FanDuel, and
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: then Bowers is more on DraftKings. Both of them are very,
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: very good plays. I'm not sure how much I can get,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: but I like them quite a bit. I think the
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Cardinals moved the ball. Bursette's been very good. Can I
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: play Bursette? I'm fine playing him. I think he actually
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: is pretty strong because he's cheap. He's going to drop
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: back a good amount, and then you have the clear
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: pairings in Michael Wilson and McBride, so It's really just
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: I hope ownership stays in check. And then I'm going
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: to fire up this Cardinals defense, too, at 2,500. You
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: can always fire up defenses against Jameis, as we've known.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Pair it with Jeremiah Love as well. All aboard the Cardinals.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: And then on the Giants side, yeah, really a scat-a-bow
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: or nothing. And I'm kind of worried about scat. Like
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: in this range with Chase Brown, with Jeremiah Love, with
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Aaron Jones, I think he comes in last. I mean,
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: he was off the field like a decent bit and
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: pretty– Important situations against the Rams in prime time. I
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: think they can stack the box and make Jameis try
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: and beat him. I have concerns with scat relative to
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: others in his range at ownership. So curious to hear
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: your guys take if you guys think this Cardinals ownership
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: stays kind of where we're projecting.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: I think it does. I think it's going to be
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: pretty close to just so many other ways to go.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: And that's, I said, like, this is the, you know,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: you can get Brissette by the way. Like, I think
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: this is another interesting way to handle this one. You,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: you mentioned liking all of them and one of them's
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: name is love. So loving in this spot, but I
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: think you could have like Brissette love Wilson McBride neighbors.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: And that's just different than everything else. Neighbors is staying
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: in check at 6k. So he's getting like less than
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: 10% ownership. brissette is you know what's he going to
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: be five six seven eight percent somewhere in that range
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: um you know wilson probably stays around the 15 i
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: think and then mcbride it's it's hard to even tell
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: what happens because i think a lot more people want
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: bowers there's cheap tight ends but there is double tight
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: end lineup so i think that's where he kind of
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: is the right number um with you on the scat
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: side of things so i think i would probably look
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: at it from that perspective and then the other thing Um,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: two more, I would go love Cardinals D in some,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: and just beat up on Jamis and pick it up
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: that way. It's not super low on, but it's just
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: a way you could play this game differently. And then
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I think the other thing is love with neighbors. And again,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: neighbors slices into it some, and you're also leveraging the
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: scat ownership there by going to neighbors a hundred bucks
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: less at a different position. Who buck kick it to you?
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Same game.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this is a really good game, I think,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: for fantasy. And the Cardinal side is just much easier
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: to figure out. We know that Brissette to Michael Wilson
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: to McBride makes a ton of sense. I mean, Brissette's
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: a guy I just want to be on almost every slate.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's like a perfect situation for fantasy. He's
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: willing to chuck it. He knows who his guys are.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison is ass, but he knows Michael Wilson is good,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: and I'm getting closer. I'm getting closer to title on
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Michael Wilson because I watched that game very closely last week.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: I've watched a lot of Michael Wilson, but I watched
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: almost that entire game last week, and he just gets open,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: and Brissette gets him the ball. It's an ideal situation. McBride,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: phenomenal tight end, but there's a lot of tight ends
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: that are good on this slate. There's cheap ones. There's
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: expensive ones. There's no way. his ownership gets like super inflated.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: So like that, I like love, but it is a
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: little more difficult. But I think, you know, if you're
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: going in on this game, you got to embrace the
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: giant side a little bit. Scadabo fine for tournaments. And
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: then neighbors, like you got a guy at Winston who
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: will just throw the ball. And like, there could definitely
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: be a big touchdown here for neighbors and no one's
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: going to be on them. So obviously the Cardinal stuff
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: is clean. You know, the guys, Brissette, Love, Wilson, mcbride
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: you can play them in a variety of ways but
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: i'm fine embracing some of the giants uncertainty i guess yeah.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: The uh full circle again we talked about the other
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: day the chat's been hitting you up on the uh
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: the judkins stuff which you didn't come full circle on
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: that but you did come full circle on aaron rogers
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: and he ended up getting the job.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: What i miss what i miss on the juck and stuff.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Matt Boyd, you were just hating on him again. He
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: had another solid game. He was pretty good the other night.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: I think on some of the winning lineups, he was there,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: close to it. He was definitely in the mix the
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: other night, for sure. I'm going to.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Have to do some research here to defend myself.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Go back and look it up.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: 18 for 70. And then 2 for... No, that's not
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: a victory. I don't care if you found the box.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: 18 for 70. And 2 for.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: You needed him. You needed him in the flex. Yeah,
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: for showdown....
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: You needed him you can still say he sucks though
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: it's okay.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: He's horrible horrible horrible running back in that.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: But the Wilson stuff coming full circle that's another one
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: again like that's the one title like I know I'm
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: look I I understand the Parker Washington play the spot
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: the price I'm not like just shitting on him for
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: fun I'm just noting it that like there is everyone
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: just keeps saying him It's like, you could say it
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: about so many guys, Michael Wilson's 5,500. What'd he get
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: last week? 11 targets and pretty much caught eight, whatever
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: it was. It was like, he's just like you said,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: he's always open. I think another, I'm just finishing this
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: one off. You already talked about, but just to say
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: the last thing, I think something really interesting is like
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Brissette love Wilson neighbors, not scat leave off McBride go Bowers.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: The guy that hurts him at almost the same price
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: in that build. And then you've got a more balanced build.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: You're not going to get to very much after that.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: But you've got like a 5K quarterback, a $ 5, 800 running back, 5,500
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: wide receiver, what is, I think, 6,900 for Bowers when
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: we get to him later, and then neighbors 6K. You
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: don't have scat in the lineup. I think there's a
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: ton of ways you could get different here. But I
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: do like this spot for the Cardinals. And I like
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: this game back and forth. I think it is sneaky.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: So we'll say that. All right. Go back to your
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: hair title. We got the Jets at the Bears.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Gross.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, Garrett Wilson, he looks good. This Bears defense
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: isn't very good. Geno's going to lock in on Garrett.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: We saw what he did last week. $ 6, 800 is a
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: price tag, though. You definitely have to do something. So
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: I like it. Do I love it? No. After that,
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, really interesting from Ben Johnson to go with
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: Tyson Bajent. I don't hate it. I mean, they paid
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: Bajent last year. He's the clear backup quarterback, but you
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: don't see that every day. That's why I respect it
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: a lot. I mean, most coaches... would just naturally give.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: All right, Case Keenum won. He played well. You're starting
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: the next week. Ben Johnson thinks Bajan's better. He has
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: more talent. I'm curious to see how this all goes.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: I'm debating it at 4,800. Like him to Burden is really,
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: really cheap. Him to Cleve Raymond, really cheap. If you
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: want to jam all these studs, I think Bajan, like
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: I prefer him to Daniels on the Buccaneers if I
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: were to do that. He's showing like no ownership, so.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: Braylon Allen, better price on FanDuel than on DraftKings. Fits
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: the scoring a little better over there. Fine with it.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: Still don't love this Jets spot too much. And then
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: I guess I don't even deserve to talk about Sadiq.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: He buried me last week, so you guys can talk
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: about him.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: I like the Allen call. I think um a guy
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: that was already getting share like he was already getting
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: attempts he's already getting targets all this stuff now no
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: breeze hall so definitely think that's interesting obviously garrett wilson
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: stand out pretty much every single week for opportunities just
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: what does he turn them into burden um underpriced on
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: the other side for both sites i think it's more
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: on fan duel people are going to want to move
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: to him at 5800 so He's 5,200 on DraftKings, though. Hoop,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I'll send it over your way here, but the defenses
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: are getting talked about in this one mostly, and then
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: a little bit of these wide receivers with Wilson, Burden,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of Allen, but what's your thoughts?
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is tough, man. You come in as a
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: backup quarterback and just absolutely smoke a team, a team
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: that people think is good, and then they're like, all right,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: you're asked to go back to the bench, and we're
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: playing the other backup. It is pretty wild, but for
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Fantasy purposes, I mean, I don't love it, I don't think.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: But if you are playing it, you have a pretty
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: direct run back in Garrett Wilson, who can't be super popular.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: He's going to get some ownership, but there's just so
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: many guys, like so many playable guys. We have 17%.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if it comes down on Garrett
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: a little bit. So you've got a clear run back,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: and I guess you could include Braylon Allen if you want.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: But overall, I'm not. Super interested in this one.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: All right. Take us into the next one. I think
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: it is the last game of the morning, and then
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: we'll get to the afternoon games just after that. But
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: we've got the Cowboys at the Texans.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Very interested in this one. Somewhat one-sided. Not one-sided, I guess,
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: because there are guys I like on the other side.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: But I think this is a very, very good spot
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: for the Texans. And the Cowboys' defense is terrible. They're
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: on the road here. And I don't think the Texans'
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: defense is as good as people think either. So I
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: think there is a chance for some back and forth there.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: You've got Nico Collins coming back from injury, which I
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: think is big. There's a ton of wide receivers, a
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: ton of really good wide receivers. So it's a position
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: where I don't think ownership is going to come into
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: play all that much. I just wanted to see. We've
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: got Nico at like 11. There's so many guys that
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: are going to be right in that range, 10%, 11%, 12%. But,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: you know, CJ Stroud, the guy typically don't play, but
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: I think it's a really good spot. They're 0-3. They're
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: at home. They need this win. They need it in
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: a big way. And they're facing a team whose defense
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: is pretty bad. So I guess the one problem is
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: it's hard to look at things outside of like just
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: CJ Stroud to Nico Collins. But I guess the nice
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: part is it's not going to be a super highly
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: owned pairing. You have clear runbacks on the other side.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: cd lamb i think is a really good play on
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: the slate just because of where he's priced and the
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: guys around him and should be pretty low owned uh
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: nine percent you know for a guy that could absolutely
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: break the slate or he can go with with picking
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: so i really like the spot uh i guess the
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: one downfall not necessarily downfall though is it's just like
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: a pretty direct situation for me it's cj straw with
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: nico collins and then one of the dallas pass catchers
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: on the other side but Overall, that pairing isn't going
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: to be super popular. It's not going to be like
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: the one we talked about earlier with Trevor Lawrence, Parker Washington,
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: and Chase Brown on the other side. It's not going
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: to be super popular like that. So I do like it.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: I like the Stroud to Collins quite a bit on
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: the slate.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, as do I. I think the other thing that's
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: really interesting is if you want to double stack him,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: if you actually think you're going to get this back
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: and forth, Hutchinson and Booty are both, well, Hutchinson's exact
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: same price as Wick's. booty's a hundred bucks more. And
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: it's just more of, if you're already stacking that instead
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: of just putting the, you know, the wicks one-off because
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: he projects slightly better, let's get someone that if they
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: can hit their ceiling will help the quarterback that you've
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: got boost the game, get the stack to fit. And
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: you've got, you know, something like a Stroud Collins X
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Hutch with CD lamb or Pickens. And then you'd be
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: able to still go to a bunch of really good
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: running backs if you wanted to on this slate. So
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: I'll kick it to you title. What do you got
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: with this one?
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: Hope people did not have too much Marcus Mariota. I
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: didn't see what happened, but to the medical tense. Yeah.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: As far as this one, I mean, yeah, I'm three
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: for three on the CJ to Nico. Good price on
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: CJ and Fandle, even better on DraftKings too. We'll expect
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: more ownership over there. Dallas side's tough for me though,
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: because yeah, like sure, CD is always a good play,
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: but if I love Puka at 7,500, how much can
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: I get CD? If I like Derrick Henry, Zay Flowers,
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: all this stuff. So, I think I prefer Pickens for
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: $ 600 cheaper. No, way more than $ 600 cheaper.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: $ 1, 500.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: Nikko is $ 600 cheaper. And I think I actually prefer
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Nikko as well. So, yeah, that Pickens price tag, though,
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: is very intriguing. One other name. Yeah, like you mentioned,
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: the Hutchinson booty. Don't hate it in stacks. Flournoy, though,
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: down there at that same price. I think I would
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: rather him than all of them. I mean, it was
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: terrible last week for him in the game log, but
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: if you watch the game, he had multiple opportunities, just
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: was on a different page a little bit. I think
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: he might've had a drop, but 3,800, he's playing about
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: 70% of snaps. They're trailing or they should be trailing.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: They're going to be in the dome. I think Florida
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: at 38 low ownership is a pivot from all those
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: guys makes quite a bit of sense. So yeah. And
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: when you are playing Nico and CJ, and then you
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: want a cheap run back so you can spend up elsewhere.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: Flournoy might even be my favorite run back in the game.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: So Timber Pickens, outside of that, pretty tough for me.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: Definitely not playing running backs on either side.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: The thing with the Flournoy one is I actually like
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: the Dak stack with that. If you go Dak, CD, Flournoy,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: and Flournoy helps you get the CD money because you're
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: paying down there and you're hoping it's him not Pickens
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: catching the 50-yard pass or something like that and doing
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: something with it, then you can still get Nico in
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: if you wanted.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: I would.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: And then you've got all the money again to spend. Obviously,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: you could go Pickens, Flournoy, but I like a Dak, CD,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Flournoy run back with Collins. I also think Another one
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: that's probably more of like a, you know, fits the
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: FanDuel model and who might hate it, but David Montgomery
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: is going to be big leverage because I think on
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: FanDuel at 7K, Stroud is going to be really popular.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: So there's not many cheap quarterbacks. You see like Bo
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Nix is 7,600 over there. There's a lot of pricey quarterback, 8,300
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: for Purdy, you know, things like that. So I think
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: that you could go to Montgomery and just hope he's
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: getting the touchdowns, but not- I'd.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: Be a little- They already had some talk about Woody
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: Marks might like take more touches. He's only implied for
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: 44 and a half is his rushing prop for DeMont,
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: 34 and a half. He's going to be way off
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: the board, but I would worry about something I'm monitoring
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: is where those snaps go in the coming weeks.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. You know, it looks like Woody could
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: pick up some, you know, some of those in the
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: future here as it goes on, even starting this week possible.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: But you're hoping for touchdowns with him. DeMont's going to
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: get you. When he has a big game, if he
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: has a big game, it's usually because he got like
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: two or three touchdowns. That's just the FanDuel model in
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: a nutshell. And on FanDuel, when Stroud's going to be popular,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: that can make some sense. So Hoop, I'll go back
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: to you now. We got Vikings at home versus the Dolphins.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Aaron Jones Sr., Jordan Addison, Hawkinson all getting love, Kyler
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: a little bit. People don't really love the runback. Malik
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: Washington's the only guy even getting anything, and it's not
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: much at all, so it doesn't matter. But what's your
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: thoughts here with this one? Vikings, big favorites at home
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: here versus the Dolphins.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, tough to identify the runback when the team's projected
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: to score 14 real-life points. If it wasn't going to
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: be anyone, it would be Malik Washington. I struggle with
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: this one, just with Addison being popular and TJ Hawkinson
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: being popular. Kyler Murray fucking sucks as an NFL quarterback. Man,
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: it is painful. The guy is just bad. And I
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: understand that Jefferson went out early in that last game,
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: but you still have other NFL wide receivers. He looked
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: like ass. So I do struggle with Addison, Hawkinson. I
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: don't love The Kyler stacks. I absolutely do love the
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Aaron Jones stuff, though, because their defense is really good.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: This Viking Vikings defense is phenomenal. They get a dream
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: matchup at home against Miami. So I love Aaron Jones here.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: You know, the no concern with workload. I mean, they
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: gave him 17 carries of six targets. So he has
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: the big workload. Big favorite. I think they're willing to
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: ride him and this defense to a victory. And that's
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: how I'll be building a lot of teams. The defense
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: is expensive. A lot of people look to pay down
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: at defense. I actually really like the Vikings defense here.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, you get the defense projected to score the
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: most points by a pretty wide margin at less than
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: 10 percent, which I mean, I guess that's not saying
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: too much because ownership at defense gets spread out quite
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: a bit but this is the dream spot for a
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: really good defense and not a lot of people are
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: going to go to him so love the aaron jones
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: to uh with with the the vikings defense my favorite
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: pairing but i do worry i'm gonna have some in
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: 150 don't get me wrong i'm gonna have some of
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: the kyler stuff in 150 um you know just in
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: case but man he is it's really painful to watch
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: him play quarterback in the nfl.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: A couple things here one the defenses i think it's
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: uh funny because what you said about kyler murray and
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: how bad he is i actually like the uh dolphins
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: d at 2000 just flat just you're against all the
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: chalk if you're not playing jones addison hawkinson or murray
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: i'm fine with just rolling to that because like you
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: said he can have um some really bad spots just
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: depends on what defenses do today but for 2k flat
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: um not too worried about it i'll be interested there
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: i also think um and i want to ask title
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: about this in a second but i'll save it but
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: i asked title about this hoop do you have notifications
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: turned on on your phone right now for the Like anybody, underdog, Schefter,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: anyone that tells you.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got the underdog stuff, yeah.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, do me a favor. Pronounce the name of the
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: quarterback that just came into the Washington game. This is
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: everybody's favorite game with Hoop is try and get a pronunciation.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Give us your best on this guy.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, my Lord.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Here we go. Here we go.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: Let's see. Athen.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Kiliakmanis.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Could it just be like aethon like nathan without.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: The n though aethon aethon aethon yeah it could yeah
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: yeah that's hard to say yeah why do you have
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: the official how close to.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: That i don't i just i wanted to see you
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: say it i would happy birthday to our man go
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: collect by the way as well.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: But uh cleo monis right cleo monis gotta be that's
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: gotta be somewhat close.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: You ought to be close. Yeah. I don't know what
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: it is. I just, I knew it would be a
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: good spot for you, but this spot, I want to
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: talk about with you title because your boy, Justin Jefferson, unfortunately,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: you know, injured, not in the game this week, but man,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: this is interesting. So Aaron Jones is like really high
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: owned and he's projecting well, and the optimal is there.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: And like, who just said, we're going against me. You're
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: going against Miami here. Like, this is a perfect spot.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: It makes a ton of sense. But if, if, the
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: Dolphins know that Kyler sucks and that they don't care
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: about like Addison, Jawan, Jennings, Hawkinson. Can they just bear
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: down on the running back spot and just say, look,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: do whatever you can, make Kyler beat you with these
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: other guys and go with that route. And you could
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: see this be a chalk bust.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: If they do that, I think Jordan Addison is going
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: for 150 and two. I think he is one of
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: the most underrated players in the NFL. And I do
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: not think anyone on the Dolphins can get close to
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: guarding him one on one. I mean, just seeing it
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: last week, the air yards, like, man, Addison could have
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: had another 15, 20 DraftKings points. I struggle with this
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: spot to an extent because I see ownership and Kyler
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: concerns and all this, but I just come back to
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: this Dolphins team I think is terrible. And I think
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: Aaron Jones is going to get the ball about 20
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: times and can catch passes out of the backfield. Kyler
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: can run himself when lanes close down. Like, this team's
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: really bad, this Dolphins team. It's a team we want
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: to pick on. Addison, I think, is way too cheap.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: He's my favorite play. The one I'm most worried about
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: is Hawkinson, just because we've been talking about TJ Hawkinson
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: for a decade now, and now he's going to be
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: chalky on a loaded tight end position slate. He's where
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: I'm worried most, but it still makes some sense. Even
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: if I'm playing Aaron Jones and even Addison, you don't
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: need to play Kyler with him necessarily, though. Maybe that
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: is my preferred approach, but I think Jordan Addison is,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: is a really, really strong play. That's kind of when
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: I was talking about Wicks though, is like, I can't
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: eat chalk everywhere. Like I think it's, I really, really
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: prefer the Addison chalk to the Wicks chalk. Problem is though. Yeah.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: I'm not running back like Malik Washington, but if anyone
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: runs back a stack in this game, it's going to
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: be Malik Washington. So maybe I just pass it up.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: But that being said, if anyone wants the dolphins last week,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: Malik Washington also could have had 15, 20 more draft
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: Kings points. He was missed a couple of times on a,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: on big shots. So yeah, it's, it's really concentrated. They
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: have a good team total. They have the nut matchup,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: a lot going for them, obviously minus the ownership, but
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be in on some Addison for sure.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: I got really sold there. I don't know how you
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: sold me so good.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's because I'm under the weather, but like Addison's good, man.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: Well, it's like you said it too, but also the
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: thing about him at 5,300 is it could be, I mean,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: I don't want to exaggerate it, but it could be
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: like six or seven for one 50 and nothing, no touchdown.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: You just get the 150, 140 yards, the bonus, the
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: catches like that'll all rack up. Don't need Kyler didn't
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: need Jones. Cause if they do go that route, he's
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: going to be open. Like you said, um, Hawkinson can
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: bust at 3,300. No one, there's no one to really
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: run it back. You don't need to run it back.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Like Addison can do that whether or not Malik Washington
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: or whoever you want to pick shows up. So I
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: think thinking about the spot, it's like, you don't have
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: to love the Jones senior spot, or you can be
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: worried a little bit about whatever, but then I think
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: you'd want to Addison. That's, that's the way to look
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: at it. Tight end is loaded. Talk through that quite well.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I really liked that breakdown. That was good.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: All right, I'll stay with you then. Let's go to
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: the 49ers at home versus the Broncos. We talked a
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: lot earlier about CMC, very affordable on both sites at 7,700
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: and 8,800. Got a lift last week, even more playing time.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: Mike Evans, even if he plays, I think this was
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: the take last week too. It was like, even when
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: he came in, like we knew, we knew he was
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: going to be in and then Kittle still goes off.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: They still used him a ton. So give us your
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: thoughts here. Bo Nix O-line is being talked about, right?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: And his ability here. So what's your thoughts on this game?
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: Man, it was amazing to see Freddie McCaffrey, fantasy holders
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: or whatever. 55% of snaps week one, 52% week two,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: 83% week three. Black definitely got faded out a little bit. Again,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: they're just so beat up at the skill position players.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: You have to play Christian McCaffrey if you want to win.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: I think him and George Kittle, if you've watched the
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: San Fran team, it's pretty concentrated right now. Kittle, He
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: is getting a decent amount of ownership at the tight
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: end because he's in between the Bowers, McBride, if you
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: want to spend up, or the Hawkinson punts down below.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: He's the one. People are going to click in the
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: midrange if they go there. I'm definitely good clicking it, though. Yeah, McCaffrey.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: I like Derrick Henry. I like James Cook. McCaffrey's going
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: to be owned, but his receiving props, 41.5. This seems
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: like prime Christian McCaffrey catching seven dump-offs, favor to score
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: a touchdown. It's just really concentrated now. And Brock Purdy's
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: played– As good as it gets. I don't know how
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: much Purdy, probably not much that I'll play. Cause when
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: you do play him, it's like I'm playing him with
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: George Kittle and or McCaffrey. So it just feels like
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: a very narrow path. I said it last week and
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: it busted or like it burned me though. And he
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: has a real price tag at 6,700. So I think
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: it's really just Kittle McCaffrey. I'll let you guys talk
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: about the Knicks Waddle stuff. I mean, yeah, it's, it's whatever.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: I don't plan on having too much, but I think
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: those are two really good individual plays. Yeah.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: I like both sides, but I think, you know, maybe
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: you sold me again, but it was also like, I
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: think I like Brissette and all the stuff they have
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: going on in that game a little bit more than,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: you know, just stacking Purdy the same way everybody's going
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: to stack them. Cause there's not like that many ways
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: to get different on everything that you're doing. The way
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: I would prefer it is actually to go to the
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: other side, which I wrote this up and already like it,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: but nicks waddle sutton even pat bryant then you can
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: get to cmc kiddo whatever you want there and you're
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: not really using anything else so that all makes a
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: lot of sense to me so i think i'm going
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: to stick more to the one side with the bow
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: nick side and then um you know have some purdy
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: out there but i think i'll i'll move a lot
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: more of my action this morning to the um the
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: arizona side than the purdy stuff and keep the nick
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: stuff to still get action plus i'm gonna have cmc
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: everywhere kiddo everywhere like you're still gonna have these guys
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: just in your lineups anyway. So hoop ball, I'll let
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: you take it from there.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: I was just pulling up. Cause I wanted to see
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: my boy, uh, Pat Bryan. I thought he did more.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: I guess he caught the touchdown, but it was a two.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: He's the guy that's freaking good. Like I love Pat Bryan,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: but yeah, not getting enough, uh, enough action. Now this game, is,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: you know, the 49ers look like probably the best team
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: in the NFL, if not one of them. And, you know,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: Brock Purdy has looked absolutely phenomenal. The Brock Purdy stuff
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: is a little bit tough today because, you know, if
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: you're playing Purdy, who are you pairing with? And it's
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: pretty clearly Kittle and, you know, maybe CMC. But it's
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: tough to play this and get different. The one thing, though, again,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: you look at the ownership on the slate and we
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: have Purdy at... Oh, where the hell did he go?
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: I got FanDuel up. That's why. Purdy, we have 5%.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: And you're talking about, you know, an MVP candidate on
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: the season projected to score 26 real life points.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's been, he's been phenomenal. The one concern though,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: definitely is you're limited in.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: What you do.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Maybe just pair them with McCaffrey. Cause a lot of people,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: I think just go right to Kittle. So I want
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: to play them. It's easy to get overweight. Uh, I
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: don't know. I'm still like Denver is just, it's such
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: a tough team to, to figure out. And it can,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: it was last season and in terms of like how
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: you want to play it for fantasy. So I'll be
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: under on, on the Denver stuff, but you know, McCaffrey
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: getting back on the field a ton, they just need them. Like,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: like title said you know, George Kittle, the price on
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: DK at 5,100 is way too cheap. And then Purdy 5%,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: I think is a phenomenal play, but you know, again,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: don't just say, all right, I'm going to go Purdy,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: in Kittle. That's what everyone's doing if they play Kittle.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: You can do it, but be careful, I think, in
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: how you stack it.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll stay with you. We've got two more games
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: to go, and the second-last game on the slate is
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: the Raiders at home versus Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: Big total, 40, what, 48 in this one? Not. I
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: guess you look at the ownership with Mahomes and Cousins,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: no one's really going to be there. You guys know
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: where I'm going in this one and title. You can
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: put it on mute or something for a minute. I
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: am going right back to, Rasheed Rice. I don't care. 6,400.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Ownership now is like....
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: You don't need to lose all your money on a spike, man.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's not going to be all.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: It's a 12-game slate. In my 150, I'm not hand-building
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: Rasheed Rice. I will preface it by saying that. There's
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: no way this dude is washed as title says. Nine
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: targets last week, seven for 88. Let's say he gets
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: a 12-yard touchdown. Now we're looking at eight for 100
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: and a touchdown, and everyone's going to want to play
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: him because Rasheed Rice is back. He's one 12-yard touchdown
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: catch away from having a massive, massive day.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: Massive day? You just had Buckins had a bad day
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: doing the same thing.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Buckins had 18– Buckins averaged three points– Like, no.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? He had over 70 yards,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: a touchdown, caught some passes.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: It's a better day than Rice had, yeah.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: But now we had a historic day for Rice coming up.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: It would have been. I said would have. One more
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: big catch, right? I'm going back to it, though. Kelsey,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: I think, on FanDuel, really cheap at $ 5, 500. Gentee, low-owned. Like,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: not many people are going to be going to him.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: And then you have Brock Bowers. You know, I'm still–
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: hesitant how many people are willing to pay the big
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: price hesitant to to believe how many people are willing
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: to pay the big price tag at tight end with
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: with so many cheap guys so i could see a
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: world where bowers and mcbride come in lower on than
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: people are thinking because you look at you know bowers
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: 6900 oh do i want to pay 6900 or just
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: play a punt for for 3k and a guy like
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: tj hawkinson so i do think the ownership can be
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: held in check and a guy like bowers but man
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: just absolute stud slate breaker uh at the position but
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: my favorite way for sure if you are playing the
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: kc stuff my homes to rice and then you know
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: maybe bring it back with bowers or something.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah the um kelsey spot like you said cheap on
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: fanduel as well but is opposite of brock bowers to
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: flip it there but rashi rice uh title every parker
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: washington lineup could be rice drop the $ 100 and play Rice.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: Please keep doing that. Everyone, please play Rasheed Rice over
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: Parker Washington.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: Not a bad pivot, actually. That's a good call. The
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: mega chalk guy that barely breaks 20 or the guy
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: that can absolutely nuke slates in Rice.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: We've got to have some sort of side bet. I mean,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: it can't be a 1v1, but I'll even give you
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: a three. I don't even know the projection. I'll give
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: you three points. Is that good, or what do I need?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: Three points. That's not– no.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: What do we have?
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: 14.7.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: I want odds.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: Give me odds.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: 14.7 versus 17.5. That's three points. Yeah, so you're giving
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: him three more points.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: Just give me some odds and Rice outscoring.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: No, but are you giving him six? You're giving him
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: three more points than what the projection's got.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: I would have to. I'd be three points in the hole.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: You start with three from Rasheed Rice. I start with zero.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good deal. No, that's not fun.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: What do you mean that's not fun?
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: That's not a fun.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: Bet. He's doubling the delta.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: I get it. You want me to try and calculate
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: these odds quick on what three points comes out to be?
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: You're not going to get me good. I was just
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: trying to think.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Let me think of something. I want something friendly for
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: the show. So let me think of just Rice outscoring.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: He's giving you plus six.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want something friendly for the show. So
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: I just want Rice outscoring. You guys can put it
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: in chat. I'm just taking Rice over Parker Washington. Rice
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: to outscore Parker Washington.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Better title.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: Huh?
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's even better for title.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: You don't even want to score. I know.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: I want to do something friendly for the show, I'm saying.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to just take Rice over Parker Washington.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: If Rice wins, title has to do something. If Washington wins,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: then Hoop has to do something.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: Crop top or shoe in.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. Something fun for the show for
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: next week. So I'll take Rice. Title can have his
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: boy Parker Washington. And we'll go from there.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: All right. Hoop and I used to play plenty. I
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: had to have it back in the day.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: Not even a long time ago.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: Hoop can play on Nades, though. Nades doesn't want the
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: smoke anymore.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: Nades does not want that. I'm going to start my
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: lineup with Matthew Golden. If I ever play Nades again,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: I don't care what the slate is. I'll take a zero.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: If Matthew Golden's not on the slate, I'm starting my
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: teams with Matthew Golden. If I ever play Nades again
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: and I had to... I'm so shocked, man.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Like we only got one game anyway, but I'm so shocked.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Title said you can have plus six on Parker, Washington
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: versus our audience.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: If I was going to bet money on it.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: But this is just going to be friendly for the show.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: I want, this is just going to be a friendly
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: entertainment for the show sort of thing. If we can
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: come up with, If someone comes up with a good idea,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: I'm not creative. So if someone comes up with a
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: good idea, just give me rice over Parker, Washington, just
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: for fun. If we're betting money on it, then yes,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: I need some, I need some fantasy points to start.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: The chat said crop top versus steak tartare.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: I could, I could grab a crop top from my daughter.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: That is in play. It could be a crop top bet. She's,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: she's got a lot of crop tops.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Okay. Double, double crop top bet right now. That's what
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: I'm done.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: Are you entitled? Yeah, of course.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to lose, so that's fine. But otherwise, yeah,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: I'm not home. I'd have to have my wife bring
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: one back.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: I don't got too much else here, so we'll go
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: to the last game, then, Tide. I'll go to you.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: It's Seahawks at home versus the Chargers. JSN, you would
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: have thought more people want to get to them. This
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: guy's been just going off. But now $ 9, 100, slate dynamics,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: all these different factors. Give us your thoughts on JSN
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: the rest of this game.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: Well, I just want to just touch on the Casey
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: Vegas game quick there. It feels like, yeah, last week
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: with everything with my homes, it does feel like a spot.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: Now my homes could, uh, could be the one. I mean, there's,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: they're implied for 27 points in a dome. And I
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: do think the Raiders are able to keep up a
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: little bit. If there was ever a spot, um, Yeah,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: I think Mahomes to Kelsey, Mahomes to Rice, Mahomes to Worthy.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: I don't hate it. I don't hate it. Only when
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: Mahomes is in the lineup. But I actually like it
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: more than I do most weeks. It's a low-owned stack.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: It's away in the afternoon. I think the biggest part,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: the Vikings in the afternoon, the Niners game we just
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: talked about in the afternoon, this feels like the pivot
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: of the pivot when you need to play catch-up at
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: lower ownership. Instead of playing Brock, go Kelsey. So I'll
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: definitely be looking– Always late swap if you need to
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: do it. But this afternoon window, this feels like this
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: is a good spot if you need to get off
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: of some of that chalk. And then Vegas side, yeah,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: Brock Bowers looks good. Chargers, Seattle, it's really hard for
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: me to get to this game. I'd say probably one
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: of my least favorite on the slate. JSN, you can
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: always play showing around like 10%. He's just so expensive.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: There's nothing bad to say about him. If he has 35, again,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: you might need him. If he has 30, though, it
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: rarely absolutely kills you. Outside of that, If you need
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: a punt tight end, A.J. Barner is a pivot from
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: Hawkinson I guess I'm fine with. Better in Darnold stuff.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: Darnold's not going to be played again. And then I
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: guess Emmanuel Wilson, Seahawks defense. Jaden Price went to the IR,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: going to miss about four games. Emmanuel Wilson, let's see,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: he's projected. He's already getting some goal line work. Plus
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: 135 to score, which isn't terrible honestly. 49.5 rushing prop.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: Is that good? No, but no one's going down in
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: this price range at running back. So it's just, you're
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: flipping a bill and getting on a completely different roster
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: construction than most people. Mainly that probably lead you to
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: spending up that tight end. Don't mind doing that. But yeah,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: I think, I think this is probably one of the
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: worst games on the slate. This Chargers team has to
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: show me something.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: You might be able to do like a late swap, Darnold,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: JSN and Barner for Mahomes, Rice and Kelsey. If you
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: want to do something like that, it looks like pretty close. So,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: As you said, though, nobody really playing Darnold here. If $ 9, 100
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: JSN gets home, typically it's closed. I know we looked
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: at this yesterday on Leverage Lane. It was like last
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: week wasn't needed, but the perfect lineups, a bunch of
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: the perfect lineups at the top within the top 20
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: of them were with Darnold and JSN. It's just the
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: Geno ones got there because the way the field played
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. But it's never a
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: bad idea if you're doing that, especially hoping that $ 9, 100
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: JSN gets all the way there. I think it was
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: our guy Sean Sully mentioned it in the chat, said
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: the Barner is a pivot over Hawk. If you're running
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: that game stack up or you're running that stack side
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: with Darnold, JSN, Barner, definitely think that's good. McConkie, they said,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: is going to play. And then I saw a bunch
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: of people hop on it and said they just don't
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: think it'll be as effective. How would you know? But
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: it's if you are wanting to pick off something from
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: the other side. you could still roll with like a
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: QJ or something. And look, he's got, he's out there regardless.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: If McConkie's out there, maybe it's better for him. If
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: McConkie gets hurt again or isn't up to speed, if
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: you're thinking Darnold and these guys are going to do things,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: they're going to have to be chucking from the other side.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: It's just been so bad for the chargers though.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: Hoops.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: I'll let you take it from there. Chargers at the Seahawks.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, that's the main thing. It's been horrible for, for,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: for the chargers has been really, really bad. Um, It
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: makes it tough to get in on this game. It
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: is a low total. Chargers projected to score 17. It
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: is wild. Just going back to the Chargers, they bring
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: in the offensive mastermind, Mike McDaniel, and their team totals
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: are now under 20 consistently. These NFL retread coaches, it
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: never works out. But yeah, JSN in a tier of
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: his own now, pricing-wise, ownership's going to be held in check.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: He's nuked the first three slates of the season. So
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: It's tough if you are hand building to get to them.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: But again, like I talked about, if you're in on
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: some of these cheap stacks, like instead of playing like...
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: cmc and these cheap and you might be able to
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: make it work with him too but like go to
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: jsn who's going to be.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: Low owned um 9100 phenomenal play manual wilson 4700 i
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: think he's a fine play barner full punt fine but
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: i gotta see something out.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: Of the chargers and i know you said lad mcconkey
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: a little dinged up and you don't know how effective
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: he's going to be. He hasn't been effective when he hasn't,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: wasn't dinged up this year. So it's just a really
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: bad team, really bad offense, but JSN 9,100, 10%. You know,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: if you're building a lot of teams, you just, you
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: have to include them at this point.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: He was having that one good game, I think is
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: what it came down to with McConkie there.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: But yeah.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: All right. Title, any final thoughts on the slate from you?
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: No, I think, yeah, again, the late swap stuff, if
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: you're in first place after the early games, I mean,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: obviously you're happy, but there's plenty of ownership in these
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: late ones. And, yeah, if you have a great start
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: or if you have like if you're one off someone,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: you have a snowflake, probably not going to be enough.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: And you have a lot of Viking stuff. There are
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: pivots that a lot lower ownership. I mean, McCaffrey, Aaron Jones, Hawkinson, Addison, Kyler,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: these guys all going to be decently owned. There's Bowers.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: kenneth walker there's if you need to get different there's
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: plenty of pivots and if you are already different and
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: your lower pieces did uh well early you can you
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: can swap onto some of the chalk it's a good
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: slate i'm really excited to uh to watch football all
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: day like always so good luck everybody.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah this is the one to watch for for sure
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: we'll obviously be over in the discord if you guys
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• 1:20:23
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• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: are talking about all this stuff back and forth about
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: what these late swap decisions look like. Go collect again.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: Happy birthday to you. But yeah, it says the Minnesota
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: stuff is going to be really owned. If your morning
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: goes poorly, probably don't want to be sticking with, you know,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Aaron Jones senior and, you know, CMC and all the
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: same stuff everybody else has. You're going to want to
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: look at what are your options. If there's a better
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: option out there, probably want to move to that hoop.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: Any final thoughts from you before we get out of here?
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, good slate. A lot of different ways
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: to go. We kind of broke it down from every perspective. So, yeah,
• 1:20:57
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