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NEWLYWED BRIDE HIRES HITMAN TO MURDER GROOM, CAUGHT ON VIDEO, NOW LEADING BIBLE STUDY BEHIND BARS · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: She was convicted after multiple trials and now multiple appeals
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  Speaker 2: of hiring a hitman to kill her brand new husband.
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  Speaker 2: And guess what it was all caught on tape, Meryl Streep, Beware,
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  Speaker 2: Dahlia Dippolito may have it over on you for acting skills.
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  Speaker 2: Remember when she bent over double in quote pain quote
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  Speaker 2: when she was told her husband had been shot. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: and the whole time she had planned the whole thing. Well,
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  Speaker 2: guess what I've got news about Dahlia Dippolito behind bars.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to
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  Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. That's right. The former Floridian,
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  Speaker 2: taught on camera in a murder for hire plot by
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  Speaker 2: an undercover cop, is now leading wait for it, a
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  Speaker 2: Bible study group behind bars. Yes, Dahlia Dippolito sent us
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  Speaker 2: to hard jail time after she's found guilty for our
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  Speaker 2: trying to hire hitman to kill her husband. Michael Dippolito
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  Speaker 2: is leading a Bible study. Well, you know what, I'm
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  Speaker 2: happy for her that she has ostensibly found the Lord
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  Speaker 2: and she can continue her Bible studies behind bars. Reality check,
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  Speaker 2: this is what we learned at trial kick it off
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  Speaker 2: with our friends at Crime Watch Daily.
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  Speaker 3: Dippolito is a guy working hard to get his life
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  Speaker 3: in order. He's an ex con fresh out of prison
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  Speaker 3: for running a phony investment scam, But after meeting Dahlia
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  Speaker 3: on an online dating site, he falls into a whirlwind romance.
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  Speaker 4: He called her up, made an arrangement, she showed up
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  Speaker 4: at his office. He liked what he saw. Within a
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  Speaker 4: short period of time, he divorced his wife and he
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  Speaker 4: found himself married to Dahlia.
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  Speaker 3: Reporter and crime writer Mark Ebner says Dahlia is a
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  Speaker 3: woman who knows where she wants to go in life
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  Speaker 3: and waste very little time getting there. He claims, after
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  Speaker 3: the honeymoon, her next destination is Michael's bank account to
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  Speaker 3: the tune of two hundred and forty thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 4: She put her claws in him so fast in a
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  Speaker 4: six month timespan, managed to take all of Michael Dippolito's money.
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  Speaker 4: She managed to get his home didd over to her,
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  Speaker 4: but all that is not enough.
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  Speaker 3: She has everything she wants, but she reportedly wants it
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  Speaker 3: all to herself.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, what you're hearing is the plot laid out by
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  Speaker 2: friends of the groom, But what really happened? Joining me
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  Speaker 2: right now an all star panel. Brian Claypool, lawyer for
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  Speaker 2: Dahalia Dippolito, Doctor Bethany Marshall, psycho analyst, Joining us out
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  Speaker 2: of Beverly Hills on insta at Doctor Bethany Marshall, James
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  Speaker 2: Shellnutt twenty seven years Metro major case swat Now lawyer,
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  Speaker 2: and Ray Capudo, lead news anchor Orlando News Wdbo Ray,
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  Speaker 2: what happened?
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  Speaker 5: Well, Nancy, these two it's a really good looking couple.
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  Speaker 5: You see pictures of them. Dahlia was a Catholic schoolgirl
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  Speaker 5: and Mike was a you know, inspiring investor who had
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  Speaker 5: a little bit of trouble. But they hit it off
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  Speaker 5: quick and they were they were married to this whirlwind romance.
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  Speaker 5: This happened down in Boyton Beach, right by Palm Beyforden.
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  Speaker 5: You know these two. It's just they were like fire
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  Speaker 5: and ice, it seems, because everything wasn't as it appeared
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  Speaker 5: on the surface.
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  Speaker 2: Well you can say that again. Take a listen to
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  Speaker 2: our friends at ABC twenty twin.
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  Speaker 6: Terry Parker, investigative reporter for w PBF twenty five News,
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  Speaker 6: covered the story.
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  Speaker 2: So this guy Mohammed walks into the Boyton Beach Police
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  Speaker 2: station and he says, I know.
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  Speaker 7: A woman who's trying to hire a hitman to kill
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  Speaker 7: her husband.
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  Speaker 8: She has to find someone who can kill her husband
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  Speaker 8: for her.
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  Speaker 6: The man, Mohammed Shahati, was recorded as he talked to
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  Speaker 6: detectives about his one time lover, Dahlia di Balito. He
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  Speaker 6: tells Belice he's speaking out to save the man's life.
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  Speaker 2: He scared of a gay, yes, because she's really, I
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  Speaker 2: mean that serious on getting this Doug.
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  Speaker 6: It's quite a story if true. Because while he can
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  Speaker 6: describe Dahlia.
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  Speaker 4: She maybe five six seven, dark black hair, which's a
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  Speaker 4: good looking girl, really good looking girl.
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  Speaker 6: Actually he can't even tell cops her last name or
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  Speaker 6: her address. By the time, we didn't know what to believe,
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  Speaker 6: who were kind of you know, whenn't sure what we had.
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  Speaker 2: They had the reservations.
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  Speaker 9: They had to say, let's see some proof.
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  Speaker 6: To get proof, the cops make Mohammed a confidential informant.
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  Speaker 6: He arranges to meet Dahlia at this gas station. Cops
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  Speaker 6: are staked out as their mystery woman arrives.
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  Speaker 2: So to you, Brian Claypool, renowed attorney, joining me out
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  Speaker 2: of La. The lawyer for Dahlia Dippolito, the so called
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  Speaker 2: black widow, Brian Claypole, I guess everybody is teaming up
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  Speaker 2: against your poor client, Dahlia Dippolito. Here, you've got a
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  Speaker 2: former boyfriend and I'm sure I'm using that term euphemistically,
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  Speaker 2: but you've got a former boyfriend who walks into the
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  Speaker 2: cops station and says, Hey, my lover, Dahlia Dippolito is
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  Speaker 2: trying to kill her husband. What is he lying to?
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  Speaker 10: Well, Nancy, one thing you're missing about Muhammad's first interaction
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  Speaker 10: with the law enforcement was that he also said that
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  Speaker 10: Dahlia conveyed to him that she was being domestically abused
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  Speaker 10: and that either she was going to die or either
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  Speaker 10: he was going to die. That's the exact first phone
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  Speaker 10: call he makes. And that's the point that we were
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  Speaker 10: making in the trial files, which was, look, the police
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  Speaker 10: department did nothing to investigate domestic abuse, and they did
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  Speaker 10: everything to make good TV for the cops televent.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on just a moment, did she call police and
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  Speaker 2: report domestic violence?
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  Speaker 10: I don't know whether she called to report to.
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  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, you know what, That's why you win
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  Speaker 2: so many cases Royce lightened. You get people hook line
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  Speaker 2: and sacred because you just said Jackie, did he just
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  Speaker 2: say that the police never investigated all the domestic abuse.
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  Speaker 2: But you're telling me you don't know if your client
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  Speaker 2: your client, and you've got a pretty good trite record
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  Speaker 2: choice lighton, and you don't know whether she ever called
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  Speaker 2: cops and said I just got hit, I'm being abused.
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  Speaker 10: Well, Nancy, this case was always about Dahlia's constitutional rights
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  Speaker 10: being violated. That's why I took the case. And everybody's
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  Speaker 10: seen that videotape where Dahlias says she's five thousand percent
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  Speaker 10: sure she wants her has been killed, but they don't
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  Speaker 10: see behind the scenes about the police department Boy and
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  Speaker 10: Beach PD pressuring Mohammed, can I get.
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  Speaker 2: Back to you claiming that she was a domestic abuse victim?
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  Speaker 2: How long has she been married to her groom?
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  Speaker 10: She she she did claim that she was domestically abused,
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  Speaker 10: and that's in the recording.
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  Speaker 2: How long they married.
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  Speaker 10: I don't remember the exact amount of months they were married,
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  Speaker 10: but Nancy, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, married a few months.
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  Speaker 10: I don't know how long they were married. When it was.
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  Speaker 2: Who jumped in and said five months is that compudo.
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  Speaker 2: It's right, Ray Computo WDBA. So they're married five months,
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  Speaker 2: the renowned defense attorney, and I'm not I'm not saying
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  Speaker 2: that with a box assault because Troyle, excuse me. Brian
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  Speaker 2: Claypool is a well known trial lawyer who represented Dahlia Dippolito,
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  Speaker 2: who's won a lot of cases. Just told me that
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  Speaker 2: police failed to invest gate domestic abuse. But you cannot
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  Speaker 2: tell me, Brian Claypool, that she ever told police she
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  Speaker 2: was a victim of domestic abuse. Correct.
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  Speaker 7: When a woman is domestically abused, she tells her friends, Hey,
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  Speaker 7: if I go missing, it's my husband who did it.
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  Speaker 7: She never says, look, either he's going to die or I'm.
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  Speaker 9: Going to die.
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  Speaker 7: In thirty years of private practice and working with domestic
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  Speaker 7: violence victims, I have never heard that line. Usually they're
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  Speaker 7: afraid for their own lives. They're not threatening the life
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  Speaker 7: of theirs.
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  Speaker 1: Spouse crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: According to reports, Dahlia Dippalito actually tried to murder her
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  Speaker 2: husband twice, once with a poison Starbucks and then once
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  Speaker 2: with a hiddenman who turned out to be an undercover agent.
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  Speaker 2: She was sentenced to sixteen short years behind bars after
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  Speaker 2: being found guilty of soliciting first degree murder. Those claims
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  Speaker 2: resulted in two retrials and a hung jury. That's right.
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  Speaker 2: The reason she was caught on camera is because that
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  Speaker 2: particular day the local police were being featured on the
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  Speaker 2: TV show Cops. They happened to catch her. Antics I
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  Speaker 2: will never forget them. Listen to her.
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  Speaker 1: Carry on, is your husband, Michael?
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  Speaker 11: Okay, I'm sorry to tell you man, he's been killed.
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  Speaker 8: He's killed.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, Ma. Brian Claypole, the lawyer for Dahlia Dipolito,
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  Speaker 2: You're right. She doesn't say one hundred percent sure or
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  Speaker 2: two hundred percent year, but five thousand percent sure. You
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  Speaker 2: brought it, yeah, so I played it for you response.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah. In my response is that that she was pressured
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  Speaker 10: into having that meeting with the undercover police officer.
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  Speaker 9: Just prior to that she was she was.
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  Speaker 10: She had a meeting with Mohammed, the undercover informant, where
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  Speaker 10: he was pressuring her and there were police officers all
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  Speaker 10: around this restaurant. That that interaction was recorded by the
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  Speaker 10: police department and it was destroyed by the police department.
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  Speaker 10: So my argument in the case was that Dalia had
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  Speaker 10: a large She had a big bark, but a very
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  Speaker 10: small bite. In fact, she never even did you know,
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  Speaker 10: there's Nancy. In a second trial, I got the undercover
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  Speaker 10: a hit man to admit that Dallia never even gave
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  Speaker 10: him a key to Mike's apartment, and she didn't give
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  Speaker 10: him a picture of Mike to Palito, and he admitted.
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  Speaker 10: That shows that she lacked the proper intent to have
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  Speaker 10: him killed. And that's why we almost won the second trial.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Key were there almost, But let me understand something.
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  Speaker 2: You're saying. She didn't hand over a photo, But it's
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  Speaker 2: my understanding she did hand over a photo, twelve hundred
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  Speaker 2: dollars cash and a photo of Mike.
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  Speaker 10: She handed over a photo to her ex boyfriend Mohammed.
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  Speaker 10: Now when it went to the undercover police officer, not
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  Speaker 10: the informant. When she's pressured into meeting the undercover pressure
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  Speaker 10: who's pressuring The police department made probably over one hundred
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  Speaker 10: phone calls. They were forcing, they were forcing Mohammed the
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  Speaker 10: informant to call her, call her, call her. Mohammed's like, look, dude,
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  Speaker 10: I don't want to be involved in this anymore. I
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  Speaker 10: don't want to be in the middle of this. They're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 10: you are going to be no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: No no. I'm not listening to what you're saying about
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  Speaker 2: Mohammed because he's not charged with Simpson murder. Who pressured
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  Speaker 2: your client, Dahlia di Palito to pay a hitman money.
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  Speaker 10: The police depart Here's my argument, But four, I.
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  Speaker 2: Thought you said this was a movie script one time.
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  Speaker 10: Well no, let's focus on your question. But for the
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  Speaker 10: police department pressuring Mohammad to pressure Dahlia, Mohammed is the
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  Speaker 10: one that set up the meeting with the undercover hit man.
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  Speaker 10: Dahlia didn't this all happened within a seventy two hour
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  Speaker 10: window because that was the Cops TV show timeline to
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  Speaker 10: get this script done in a nor dancy. You're aware
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  Speaker 10: of this. In a normal undercover operation, it could take
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  Speaker 10: a month or many months to get this accomplished. They
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  Speaker 10: were on an accelerated plan to get her on tape
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  Speaker 10: to try to kill her husband, and she would have
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  Speaker 10: never done that.
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  Speaker 1: Pause.
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  Speaker 2: All that I got to cut through this and understand
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  Speaker 2: what you're saying with me is veteran trial lawyer Brian Klaypool,
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  Speaker 2: who represented Dahlia Dipolito at trial Now there have been
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  Speaker 2: two trials. Now you're saying now today that she Dalli
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  Speaker 2: di Palito, was pressured by her friend Mohammad via police,
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  Speaker 2: police pressure. Mohammed Muhammad pressures her to have a hit
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  Speaker 2: man with the meeting with a hit man. All right, coercion,
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  Speaker 2: But isn't it true? At another trial, the defense was
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  Speaker 2: that the entire thing was actually a script. That the
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  Speaker 2: script was basically a screenplay for a movie. She wanted,
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  Speaker 2: a reality show she wanted to do and they were
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  Speaker 2: acting it out.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: That was the first trial that I did not conduct,
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  Speaker 10: and I will concede to you that that argument was farcical.
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  Speaker 10: That was a silly argument that Dahlia's attorney put forward
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  Speaker 10: to the jury. And we had an entirely different twist
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  Speaker 10: on the case. It was based on due pross as
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  Speaker 10: violations carried out by the Boyant Beach PD.
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  Speaker 2: Let me go now to Ratapudo, the lead anchor for
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  Speaker 2: morning news WDBO Ray. There have been a couple of
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  Speaker 2: trials for Dahlia Diplito. At one trial, explain to me
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  Speaker 2: the script defense.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, here's the thing. Mohammed the gentleman that she
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  Speaker 5: was talking to, and ic gentleman Moosely.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know him.
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  Speaker 5: He was a part time actor, and Dallia says that
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  Speaker 5: him and Mike were in on kind of doing a
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  Speaker 5: reality show based on an episode of Bird.
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  Speaker 2: You say, Mike the hatband was in on it.
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  Speaker 5: That's what Dalia says. Now, he Enmic an episode of
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  Speaker 5: Burn Notice that had a similar storyline, and they wanted
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  Speaker 5: to post it on YouTube and get famous, and this
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  Speaker 5: is you know. Brian said that it was farcical, and
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  Speaker 5: I agree because here's the thing.
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  Speaker 10: The ant the idea of.
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  Speaker 5: Getting famous on YouTube is really a modern thing. In
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  Speaker 5: two thousand and nine, it was still kind of evolving
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  Speaker 5: because they had that partner program and that just launched
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  Speaker 5: at like the very end of two thousand and seven,
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  Speaker 5: where people can start getting paid for their videos.
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  Speaker 7: So I did.
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  Speaker 5: Getting paid on YouTube wasn't like this big idea that
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  Speaker 5: everybody now wants to do, like the bloggers and people.
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  Speaker 5: So it just didn't make sense then that somebody would
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  Speaker 5: be doing that.
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  Speaker 2: I hear what you're talking about the intricacies of posting
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  Speaker 2: video online and getting paid for it or not getting
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  Speaker 2: paid for it. But I'm concerned about the trial and
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you why, because to James Shelnutt, twenty seven
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  Speaker 2: years Metro major case swat Now lawyer. Here's the thing
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  Speaker 2: about multiple trials. Whatever you say at the first trial,
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  Speaker 2: there is a certified transcript of that. So if you
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  Speaker 2: have a completely different defense, such as I was forced
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  Speaker 2: by the cops to try to put a hit on
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  Speaker 2: my husband, everything you said the first trial can come
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  Speaker 2: in on cross examination.
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  Speaker 1: You can say, well, why wha wall.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, now you're saying the cops have made you do this,
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  Speaker 2: But last trial you said this was all part of
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  Speaker 2: a script you made up as a reality series with
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  Speaker 2: you the hit man, and your husband that he was
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  Speaker 2: in on it. That's not true. Then you're stuck with
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  Speaker 2: what you said at that first trial. What about it, sy'all?
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  Speaker 9: Nutt, I agree one hundred percent. I mean the credibility
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  Speaker 9: is completely impeached at that point. I mean that, you know,
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  Speaker 9: it's gonna be hard to uh, to go back and
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  Speaker 9: retract that. You know, if you take a look at this,
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  Speaker 9: and you know, all due respect to Brian Ah, he's
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  Speaker 9: got a client to defend. I get it. I've done
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  Speaker 9: criminal defense in the past. But you know, if you
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  Speaker 9: take a look at it, nothing is consistent with what
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  Speaker 9: this lady is claiming as being a domestic violence victim.
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  Speaker 9: You know she she was with this guy very short
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  Speaker 9: period of time. They were traveling. Uh, you know in
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  Speaker 9: addition to that, you know, the day that this supposedly
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  Speaker 9: was going to occur, this hit man was supposed to
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  Speaker 9: gonna kill her husband. She's going to a gym she
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  Speaker 9: regularly went to. You know, if you take a look
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  Speaker 9: at the whole situation, nothing that's up.
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  Speaker 2: Straight back out to rate capudo, lead news anchor Morning
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  Speaker 2: News WDBO. So what have She's at the gym when
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  Speaker 2: the hit goes down.
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  Speaker 5: The supposed hit. Yeah, Nancy, And I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 5: She wanted to be on reality TV. And she got
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  Speaker 5: on it all right because the cops were filming an
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  Speaker 5: episode of that show. So they bring her back from
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  Speaker 5: the gym to this staged crime scene and they got
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  Speaker 5: this all on video, and they they get her reaction
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  Speaker 5: when they tell her that Mike has been murdered. Now,
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  Speaker 5: of course he's still alive and this is all stage.
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  Speaker 5: But I'll tell you she puts on a type of
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  Speaker 5: act that would have been great for reality TV. She
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  Speaker 5: starts wowling, she she tremors, starts you know, kind of
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  Speaker 5: hunching over. But one thing you don't see is you
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  Speaker 5: see tears, you know. And this woman puts on quite
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  Speaker 5: an act thinking, you know, considering the videos that we
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  Speaker 5: saw before that she, you know, was behind this. She
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  Speaker 5: puts on quite an act trying to sell the fact
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  Speaker 5: that she was upset that Mike apparently was murdered.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, take a listen.
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  Speaker 6: The TV show cameras are rolling when police wake up Mike.
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  Speaker 6: That's Officer Marino at the door.
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  Speaker 4: Your wife.
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  Speaker 6: It's hard to person you kill you?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I just just take a look.
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  Speaker 10: I think you.
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  Speaker 2: Guy was totally in shock that this was going on.
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  Speaker 2: I was very surprised. I was like because then it
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  Speaker 2: hit me like this is a this is a mess.
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  Speaker 6: They drive them away and transform the street to make
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  Speaker 6: it up here they're really investigating Mike's murder. The TV
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  Speaker 6: show cops, along with Boyd and Beach Police have cameras
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  Speaker 6: rolling when a detective calls Dahlia at the gym, we're.
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  Speaker 10: At your residence, ma'am.
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  Speaker 4: Can you come right back to your residence please?
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  Speaker 6: She's back in a flash. And now watch carefully. You
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  Speaker 6: be the judge of what happens next.
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  Speaker 11: Is your husband, Michael, Okay, I'm sorry to tell you, man,
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  Speaker 11: he's been killed.
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  Speaker 6: We know the cops are acting. What about Dahlia.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Ryan Claipe, you're stuck with that video and audio
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: at trial number two? What do you make of it?
• 19:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah, here's what we argued.
• 19:09
  Speaker 10: You just heard Amy Roback say the police officers were
• 19:13
  Speaker 10: acting as well. What I argued in the second trial
• 19:16
  Speaker 10: was that the fact that the police department went to
• 19:19
  Speaker 10: such an extreme to set up a stage crime scene.
• 19:23
  Speaker 10: And then Nancy after that, the media person at Bot
• 19:28
  Speaker 10: Beach PD takes that video clip that you just played
• 19:31
  Speaker 10: for your listeners and she posts it online for the
• 19:37
  Speaker 10: world to see, and it goes viral internationally within seven minutes.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: And the fault is that that's Dahlia Dippolito's fault. She's
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: the one out of the street crying. I mean, as
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I love to say, Meryl Street, don't worry, Okay, you're safe,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: because but she certainly put on a performance.
• 19:59
  Speaker 10: Well look, I know that you're in love with that.
• 20:01
  Speaker 10: That that her her crying as I am staged crime scene.
• 20:06
  Speaker 10: And I'm surprised you haven't brought up the Chai Ti
• 20:08
  Speaker 10: latte yet to listen at.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: The end and said that I was just waiting for
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: My answer was she illegedly tried to poison him before
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: she hired the hit man.
• 20:17
  Speaker 10: That wasn't true at all. There's no evidence of that
• 20:20
  Speaker 10: and no investigations. Let me make one more quick point.
• 20:23
  Speaker 10: The whole the whole point and cross exam of the
• 20:24
  Speaker 10: media director was that there is a pending criminal investigation ongoing.
• 20:31
  Speaker 10: You don't jeopardize or contaminate an investigation by circulating this
• 20:37
  Speaker 10: video worldwide. That was our argument. Her due process rights
• 20:40
  Speaker 10: were violated.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Well, if she had Brian to kill her husband, hired
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: a hit man and carried on double is she's physically
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: doubling over in grief. She did that, not the cops.
• 20:52
  Speaker 10: Nancy, Nancy, You're one of the brightest people I've ever met.
• 20:56
  Speaker 10: There a legal doctrine called fruit of the poisonous. You've
• 21:00
  Speaker 10: heard of that. Our argument was that did that stage videotape,
• 21:05
  Speaker 10: that that tape where Dahi is five thousand percent short,
• 21:08
  Speaker 10: that is all toxic and contaminated and the result of
• 21:13
  Speaker 10: unconstitutional violations by the Boytant Beach Police Department.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, did they make Muhammad come in the friend Muhammad
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: and say, hey, my ex lover is planning a hit. FYI, nobody.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: The police didn't make that happen. What they did do
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: was do get an undercover cop to pose as a hitman.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: And that's absolutely constitutional. She didn't have to take that mating, Nancy,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: we get twelve hundred dollars the ATM.
• 21:43
  Speaker 10: There was an audio tape. There was an audio tape
• 21:46
  Speaker 10: of the police officers laughing at Muhammad when he went
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: in because he couldn't remember her name. They weren't even
• 21:52
  Speaker 10: taking this that's serious. And then Ray Ray, actually one
• 21:55
  Speaker 10: of your other guests, made a good point that I
• 21:57
  Speaker 10: actually made to help Dalia. Almost in the second trial,
• 22:01
  Speaker 10: Ray just said, oh wait a minute, Gallia could have
• 22:04
  Speaker 10: hired somebody else to go kill Mike. That's why they
• 22:07
  Speaker 10: needed to ex this expedite this investigation. What I argued
• 22:11
  Speaker 10: what at trial was the police department never even called
• 22:14
  Speaker 10: up Mike. They never even called this guy up and
• 22:17
  Speaker 10: to say, hey, Golli, you might kill you. You might
• 22:20
  Speaker 10: want to get somebody to protect you or get a
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: security guard, because they never took it serious, and all
• 22:26
  Speaker 10: they were doing was setting up a view.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: They were trying to do before the guy did cops, okay,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall, there's something toxic, all right, but it's
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: not the cops.
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: I'm just listening to all these facts and trying to
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: assess the mindset of get Blito, and it seems to
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: me that she's one of these rare female sociopaths who
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: uses her sexuality and charm to preferentially relate to men
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: so that she can get something from them, that this
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: is her emo in the world. And she turns on
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: that same kind of charm in this YouTube video. So
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: when I looked at it, the cop says, you know
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: your husband's dead. She burst into tears. And you and
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: I both know that when you get bad news, the
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: first stage is shocked, right, you can't believe it. You're
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: trying to take in the information, you're rejecting it all
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: at the same time, she is prepared for this. She
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: starts crying big crocodile tears. But then she cozies up
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: to the police officer who has just given her the
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: so called bad news, kind of presses her body up
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: against him a little bit. He has his arm around
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: her waist. It's a very sexualized interaction. So here as
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: she supposedly learns that her husband is dead, she becomes
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: very sexualized in her relationship with the police officer.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: That small fact just has stood out to me about
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: this case all along.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: You know what mentioned, You mentioned something that triggered what
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Brian Claypool just said about claims that Dahlia di Palito
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: had tried to poison the husband. This is after just
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: six months of marriage. They're on the honeymoon phase. Reports
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: that Dollia di Polito, the ex lover turn informant, testifies
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Dippolito tried to poison her husband before she hired a
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: hit man to kill him. Well, that's neither here nor there.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: That's background information for you.
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: But men are just wallets for her. Men are needs
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: satisfying objects.
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: That's all they are.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Troy. Excuse me, Brian Claypool, I've got a question for you.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Your client, Dahlia Dipolito, Was she ever a hooker?
• 24:46
  Speaker 10: Absolutely not. Her contention was that they met at a
• 24:52
  Speaker 10: Starbucks coffee shop.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Eleven years, three trials and two convictions later, her defense
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: lawyer is commenting on her new life behind bars, and
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: that's all about her Bible study, and I respect that.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: I applaud her she can still continue her Bible studies
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: behind bars because she is stone cold guilty. And this
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: is why with me, a renowned trial lawyer that represented
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: her at trial too. And I gotta tell you, I've
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: never seen anybody fight as hard as Brian Claypole did
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: at trial. But sadly for him, there are some hurdles
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: you just can't get over. Listen to this.
• 25:55
  Speaker 11: I'm Sorge Ramsey.
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: I'm going to call you. Thank you for comment.
• 25:58
  Speaker 11: I'm sorry to call you.
• 25:59
  Speaker 9: Listen.
• 25:59
  Speaker 11: We had a report of the disturbance at your house
• 26:02
  Speaker 11: and there were shots fired. Is your husband, Michael? Okay,
• 26:05
  Speaker 11: I'm sorry to tell you man, he's been killed. He's
• 26:09
  Speaker 11: been killed. Man, try to calm down right now.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: We need to get you to the station.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: We need to get you to the stations.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I can't let you, man.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: We have to do our job if you want to
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: find his killer.
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: Okay, we need you to comm down.
• 26:27
  Speaker 11: I'm gonna need you to go with these defintives. Okay.
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: Is you have enemies?
• 26:31
  Speaker 11: Is there anyone that would want to hurt Okay, who
• 26:33
  Speaker 11: would want to hurt him?
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: Witness he said he saw a blackmail running from me.
• 26:37
  Speaker 11: I can't let you see him, mam maam, I cannot
• 26:40
  Speaker 11: do this right now. I can't go.
• 26:43
  Speaker 9: I need you.
• 26:44
  Speaker 11: I need you to take it to the stations. I
• 26:46
  Speaker 11: can't man go with these detectives.
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: If you want to help your husband, okay, if you
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: want to help your husband, you need to go to
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: the station with these gentlemen and tell us everything you
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: know about who he knows, who's connected to. Don't worry,
• 26:57
  Speaker 8: We've already taken care of dogs. What I'm looking for for.
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: Everything's under control.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Okay. I'm just letting that soak in for just a moment.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall' psycho analyst joining us in Beverly Hills.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: What do you make of all of that in the
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: midst of screaming about the death of her husband? This
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: is a sting. The husband's alive, he's in on it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Did she actually ask about her dog?
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: She did?
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: She asked about the dog.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Thought I heard them say, yes, your dog's okay, he
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: with animal control. Did I hear that?
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: I did, Jackie. Okay, that's a detail I admissed after
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: watching this one hundred times. So Brian Claypool she's in
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: such grief and shock. She asked, is the dog okay?
• 27:37
  Speaker 10: And Nancy, all I can tell you is that what
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: you just played actually almost helped me almost win that
• 27:46
  Speaker 10: second trial. Just so we have a fair playing field,
• 27:48
  Speaker 10: your listeners need to know. At the second trial we
• 27:50
  Speaker 10: had a hung jury three to three, and the two
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: alternate jurors were also voting to equip five to three.
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: Why because we argued and Ramsey, the guy you just played,
• 28:00
  Speaker 10: Sergeant Ramsey testified on cross examination when I asked him questions,
• 28:04
  Speaker 10: I got him to admit that that was completely inappropriate
• 28:09
  Speaker 10: what that police department did. That that went beyond the
• 28:12
  Speaker 10: bounds of fairness to go out and stage a freaking
• 28:15
  Speaker 10: crime scene and then go spired off on social media.
• 28:19
  Speaker 10: Why aren't you addressing those issues?
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Because improperly posting something on social media only impacts a trial.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: If one of the jurors has seen not only seen
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: the posting on social media prior to trial, but has
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: been so effective, they can no longer render a verdict
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: that speaks the truth. That is the law. So you
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: can carry on all you want to, Brian Claypool, but
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: the law is what I just said. And on jury
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: selection and what dire which coit's Dilley is French for
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: to speak the truth.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: It was your.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Duty, Brian Claypool, to ask the jurors one by one
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: if they have been so affected by media by TV
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: that they cannot render a tree verdict. And I assume
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: that you did do that because you're a good trial lawyer.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: And I assume because they made it onto the jury
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: that they swore under oath they had not been affected
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: by social media or news accounts, which means your argument
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: can't carry the water. It's not worth a hill of
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: beans as far as an appellate court is concerned. And
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I would like to point out that the appellate court
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: heard your argument as well. But while we're going take
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: a listen to this.
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: I want to know if you know this guy.
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: They bring in, Officer Witty Jean, the supposed hitman from
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: the car.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: It's over weird.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: You know who this guy is? You've never seen any
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: before and not.
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: Anything ever than she just stared at him. She says
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: she didn't know him, and then call it a resurrection.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, here's a.
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: Police have another surprise for Dahlia Toplito.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Please come here. How you came here, she sees her
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: husband and he's love.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: The show Cops captures this moment as well, come.
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: Here, please come here?
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: Why not?
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: Why come here?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Please? What you're alive? I love that moment and I'm
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: sure a jury will too.
• 30:24
  Speaker 11: You're going to jail today for solicitation.
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: You're under arrest.
• 30:29
  Speaker 11: Did you hear what I just told you?
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: You kept saying I didn't do anything?
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: I didn't do anything?
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Was that all you could think of to say?
• 30:36
  Speaker 9: They were accusing me of trying to man?
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I think, how then? I then?
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: So police have her in the station. They then bring
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: in the hit man, the undercover cop and go you
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: know this guy goes no, she's on tape negotiating with
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: the hit man. Then they bring in the husband and
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: she learns for the first time that he's actually alive.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: It was all a sting. What can you imagine went
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: through your client's mind at that moment with me? Veteran
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: trial lawyer Brian Claypol who represented Dippolito at trial. Now,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: before you give Claypool too hard of a time, you
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: got to remember that this trial was tried one time
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: before he got the case, so he's stuck with that
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: transcript where Dahlia Dippolito has taken the stand given all
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: kinds of statements contrary to what he then must argue
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: to a jury. So what's going through her mind, Brian,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: how did you put it to the jury when she
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: sees the hit man come in and she says, no,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: I've never seen him in my life, when the cops
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: have her on video and audio negotiating a hit with him.
• 31:53
  Speaker 10: Yeah, he answered. Before I answer that question, I wanted
• 31:56
  Speaker 10: to recognize You've made a great point, So did Ray
• 31:58
  Speaker 10: about the first trial where she said it was for
• 32:02
  Speaker 10: reality TV. So what we had to do in the
• 32:05
  Speaker 10: second trial is we had to we couldn't call her
• 32:08
  Speaker 10: as a witness because of what you said and Race said.
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: We could not call her as a witness because then
• 32:14
  Speaker 10: the prosecutors would have taken that testimony under oaths from
• 32:18
  Speaker 10: the first trial and would have completely gutted the argument
• 32:21
  Speaker 10: we were making in the second trial. It's the first
• 32:23
  Speaker 10: point I wanted to make. Second point as to this video,
• 32:26
  Speaker 10: when they're bringing in Witty Jean and they're bringing in
• 32:29
  Speaker 10: Mike Pippalito. What I argued was I didn't go into
• 32:31
  Speaker 10: the mind of Dally. I just said, look, this is
• 32:34
  Speaker 10: completely inappropriate police practices. In fact, what is the Cops
• 32:38
  Speaker 10: TV show doing in a police station when they're about
• 32:41
  Speaker 10: to arrest a woman for alleged solicitation to commit murder?
• 32:45
  Speaker 10: Completely inappropriate, out of bounds and unconstitutional.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, can we now address your client in jail after
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: hiring a hit man to kill her husband, and she
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: sees the hit man walk into the police station and
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: then says, well, I don't know him.
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: I mean the fact that she died, it looks that's
• 33:07
  Speaker 10: not that clearly, I agree with you, that's that's nonsensical.
• 33:11
  Speaker 10: She should have said she knew who he was and
• 33:13
  Speaker 10: she and she made a mistake on that. But with
• 33:15
  Speaker 10: respect to Mike, I mean, what would you what would
• 33:18
  Speaker 10: you expect her reaction to be when Mike walks in.
• 33:20
  Speaker 10: She's been told that Mike has been killed, and now
• 33:23
  Speaker 10: Mike walks in, So she was genuinely surprised at that.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I bet she was regarding the hinman. You said she
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: made a mistake, she outright lied because she couldn't say, yeah,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I know him, I hired him to kill my husband.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: So she said, no, I've never seen him.
• 33:43
  Speaker 10: Look, she didn't hire him to kill her husband. Look,
• 33:46
  Speaker 10: she was supposed to be fifteen thousand dollars. Who goes
• 33:50
  Speaker 10: out and tries to kill somebody on credit? She gave
• 33:53
  Speaker 10: a lot of people.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: So surprised at how many people I'm telling you, you keeps saying, please, please, please,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: many many people put a down payment on a hit.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I mean you just saw it a tiger king. You
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: put down a payment on a herd.
• 34:09
  Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, you.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Put a payment on a hit and you pay the
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: rest with the deed is done. As a matter of fact,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: that's pretty much sob maybe not.
• 34:16
  Speaker 10: That cheap that she really didn't want it done. That's
• 34:18
  Speaker 10: what I argued in this second case almost won. She
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: didn't give any money.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: You know what, You know what, Brian Claypool, if I'm
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: ever charged with murder, get ready because you're still you're
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: still you're going down swinging. You're still fighting for Dahlia Dippolito. Guys,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: whether you agree with this defense attorneys or not, and
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I don't, you got to respect somebody that never gives up,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: and that is Brian Claypole. I gotta say that. So
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: bottom line right now to Raykapudo, lead news anchor, WDBA
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Morning News where does the case stand now?
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Bottom line?
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: Bottom line, she is serving sixteen years in prison, a
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: woman's prison in the o'kalla and Marion County, and she's
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: not getting out for a while, Nancy. But you know,
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: in the grand scheme of things, some might think that
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: that punishment isn't enough that this woman's going to be
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: getting out of jail now. One thing, Nancy, she was
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: on house arrests for years between it's happening and her
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: finally getting convicted. She's not a mother. She's thirty six
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: years old. She got pregnant while she's on house arrests.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: So this woman's life is sort of continuing to go.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: Is all this has happened?
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Well, clearly the ankle monitor kept her from leaving home,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: but she apparently had a visitor. Dahlia Dippolito says it's
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: very quote painful to be behind bars and away from
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: her son. I got to tell you something that would
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: be the worst thing in the world for me to
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: be alive and separated from my twins, John, David and Lucy.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I cannot imagine that kind of pain, And that is
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: the sort of thing one should consider before attempting to
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: murder one's husband, Dahlia Dippolito behind bars, launching a brand
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: new appeal and leading a Bible study class. Is it
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: real or is this just her way to try to
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: convince a pardon a parole board to release her early.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know. We wait as justice Entfoles. Nancy Grace
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: signing off goodbye friends,