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It is I the big dog. We got the vanilla gorilla, we
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So you guys? Got a We got a great show today.
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It's going to be awesome. No pun intended.
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No pun intended. We are literally no pun
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intended. Talk about.
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OG is frozen. OG you're frozen.
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Hello. No, the OG froze so we will up
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there. He is.
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He's back now, so. Let's start with last night for
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those that watched ACW. For those who for those who have
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the benefit of having thriller and paid the 799 because you
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definitely you got your money's worth last night, even with all
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the the travel mishaps with Richard Holiday and with even
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without the travel mishaps with Mance Warner, Richard Holiday,
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Dante Casanova. Yes, they couldn't make.
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It I mean, you know, that was that's what happens.
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Bart is always subject to change just like this podcast, but
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there was definitely a lot of re working of the match card.
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I thought they did a great job the whole team over there
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thinking quick and on their feet even though they probably knew
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earlier in the day. But to rearrange that whole card
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and still put out insane match after insane match after insane
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match after insane match from top to bottom, I think
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personally is a big, big, big testament to the behind the
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scenes. Screw the agents, the producers,
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the guys running the show from Gorilla, whoever that is, to the
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talent in the back. Being able to, at a moment's
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notice, just switch up and and have a completely different
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opponent or opponents is a testament to what those guys do.
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So let's start with the first match.
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Which was limo, limo. And I don't think it's, I don't
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think it's limo, limo. Something like that.
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Yeah. That was the funniest beginning
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of a show, excuse me, that I've ever seen.
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He came out there, he did his thing, and everything he said
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was Yup, Yup. Yeah, lame.
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O that's what he does. So shout out to Lamo, he did a
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great job with the real 1. He's he's shown out a lot in
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ACW. He's.
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Shown out a lot at Borderman from Dublin.
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No, actually he moved to the US, right?
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But he moved. From Dublin to New York City to
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pursue his dream. And he's pursuing his.
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Dream and he's doing a great job at it too.
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So shout out to. Yes, Lamo and.
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And the real one, obviously the real one went over.
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So that was a great match. Let's get to match #2 which was
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the women. Was it the women's battle royal
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I. Think it was the woman.
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'S Hold on, let me see because I I should have pulled this up.
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This is on me. So it was a great show.
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Shout out to my boy Sal Graziano with his with his wrestling
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shirt that was actually. A really nice shirt.
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I texted him why it was on, why it was on TVI said.
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Bro, that's a nice shirt. He goes and you're the winner.
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That was you're the winner. Listen, that was.
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So we had to pay 799, but that's because Thriller knew that they
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can get them. So yeah.
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So you had so just a a kind of rundown of the new, this isn't
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the updated card, but they had to do some some reworking.
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What's the second match? I believe the second match is
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the hardcore match with Crowbar and Crowbar.
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Crowbar Fox Viner because they're supposed to be Crowbar
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and Mance, but Mance couldn't make it again.
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Box Viner. The Beast, Josepher and and
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there's one other person. Who the hell is the other
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person? Hold on, I'm just going to pull
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up the pictures. It'll tell me.
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There's a video from last night that I do want to show you guys
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though the Huw wrestling card. I got it right here.
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There is no card. You're not going to find the
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exact card. You're going to find the old
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card. That's fine.
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But they weren't all on that card.
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Not after Zach Clayton. He couldn't be there either.
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Yep, Yeah, there was. I don't know if it was due to
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travel restrictions because of the the wildfires or or what it
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was. But they live in Jersey.
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Even his wife. It was you had Killer Cross, you
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had Matt Riddle, you had Leo Sparrow and Fear, which would
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have probably been, which would have been the second match.
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It was Leo Sparrow versus Fear from the company in Chile that
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they partnered with. And, and just so you all know,
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I've never seen this guy Fear. He's from Chile and he's a great
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wrestler and shout out to him. He won the ACW title, the
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cruiserweight champion. So he is the second
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cruiserweight champion in ACW. Then out of that match, which
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that match was fantastic. I, I definitely thought it was
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an opportunity for both guys to showcase what they can do,
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showcase the cruiserweight division for ACW that it is a
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viable, you know, division there that a lot of companies don't
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have any more. It's a lost division, but it's
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it's that division is building up fear coming out of Chile and
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coming here. I don't know much about him.
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That's not saying he's not great at what he does, because he is.
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I haven't. I didn't know that there was a
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wrestling company in Chile until ACW signed a partnership deal
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with them. So now what that does is that
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gives their cruiserweight title a global expansion into Chile
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and South America. Now, now fear the way he the
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face paint, the the all black attire kind of reminds me of
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Vampiro from the later days of WCW.
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That's kind of what he reminds me of.
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And I said that last night, but I'm I I think it's a great
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gimmick. I think it's something that is
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going to go a long way, especially here, you know, and
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and doing what he does. I'm excited to see where they go
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with this now. After that was the Ten Women
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Battle Royal, which featured N.W.A top independent stars,
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stars from Chile. You had Shotsy, Indy Brook
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Havoc. You had the girl from N.W.A.
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Geez, the the the list of people in that match.
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Bro that list was so long I. Forgot Indy, Hartwell, Lady
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Frost, Vicki, Venuto, I don't have it all in front of me as
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far as name wise, but I mean all those women put on an absolutely
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fantastic, fantastic showing in that battle Royale.
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Shout out to Schatzi, I was cheeking up and beating her best
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friend. Well, and The thing is too is,
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you know, that whole match, that whole thing was that whole match
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really was absolutely spectacular.
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Again, you know, with all the travel issues that they had when
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promoting this card, you know, with with losing Dante Casanova
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to travel, restrict your travel issues, losing Mance Warner to
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travel issues. He was supposed to fly up and he
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actually had to put out a tweet that he couldn't make it and he
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was still 8 hours from Florida. So he wouldn't have even been
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able to drive up to the show because he would have missed it.
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So you lost Mance Warner to travel, you lost Richard Holiday
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to travel because he was in Detroit, and then you lost Dante
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Casanova to travel. And then Danny Doring, I want to
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say, might have been travel or something came up.
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He couldn't make it because it was supposed to be the
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cruiserweight match, was originally scheduled to be Danny
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Doring, Leo Sparrow and Fear. Danny couldn't make weight.
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That's what they said. So from there, you know, it
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became a singles match and then you went to the women's match,
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which again, they had a nice balance of men's matches and
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women's matches on the card. You know, you had the women's
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title on the on the line later on in the card.
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We'll get to that. But this this this card.
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Was this whole? They, they, they always put on a
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great show and a fantastic show and a top of the line program.
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But to have that many, you know, restrictions due to travel and
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still be able to rework everything and put on an
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absolutely stellar card with all of those key components missing
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is a testament to their backstage team, their booking
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team, their agents that they can, you know, OK, let's let's
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move these guys and from this match and put them here.
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Put this here. You had, you know, like yet it
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was supposed to be Dante Casanova and Soleil versus the
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righteous. Dante Casanova couldn't make it.
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They put LSG in his place. And then because Richard Holiday
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couldn't make it, Elias or Elijah walked with the Righteous
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and then they put K they brought out KC Navarro to team with
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Soleil and LSG against, you know, Elijah and the righteous.
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I mean there was the amount of stuff that they were able to
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pull off was outrageous and still put on a top tier
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phenomenal card. That honestly shows that they
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can still that their wrestling is still wanted in that
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building. So let's get to.
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The next one would have been the hardcore match, which was
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Crowbar, Fox, Viner Yusifer. And I'll tell you right now
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because I actually pulled up. Pictures.
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So bottom line is it was a great match and obviously pro ball 1.
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Yep, Fox Viner Yusifer, Ricky Price, that's who it was so.
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Crowbar 1. So let's get to the next one
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because I want to hold up our partners.
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The next one would have been the righteous and Casey Navarro and
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Soleil and Elijah that was. I don't know who Soleil is.
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Soleil is. Soleil was in WWE under the
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name. He was with OTM for a while,
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then they moved him off of the managers of OTM and put him as
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Scripps. Then they put him as Sidney.
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Then he went on the Indies when he came back out and he was
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Sidney Akeem for a while. And now he's found, as they put
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it last night, his new spirit animal.
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Well, that was his spirit animal when he first started.
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Is so late. Yes.
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So now he's under a mask. You haven't seen him wrestle
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without a mask anywhere. He's still doing phenomenal
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things, pulling off phenomenal feats that these guys shouldn't
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be doing. I just realized we can't see the
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comments because I had to go bigger.
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Well. We don't have comments.
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Let's go back. So, yeah, I mean that.
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Then from there you went to the women's match, I believe for the
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title, which was which was J Rod versus Steph Delander.
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Again, an absolutely banger match.
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Obviously, Steph Delander retained the title and she
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almost lost it due to shots. He's interference, but Steph
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wins, Steph retains, and now you go into Mischief Night on
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October 18th. Which will be there.
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You go to Mischief Night on October 18th with Schatzi, Black
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Heart and Steph Delander for the women's title.
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Shout out to Barton's Orchard. That'll be August, August 18th,
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something like that. I think it's like.
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Wednesday Orchard It's a Wednesday night.
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Get your tickets. They're not.
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Oh yeah, they're. Going to be live in Barton's
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Orchard. Tickets aren't that expensive.
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Joey went last year. So it cost me like 50 something
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dollars to go right, But it's 50 bucks.
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That's not a problem. So after the women's match came.
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Would have been the shock of the night was would have been Tommy
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Dreamer versus Josh Shernoff in the Lumberjack match.
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That match was a great match. I missed the.
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Ending it started off. It started off very, I guess you
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would call it hot and heavy because the scent to slaughter
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came out with churn off and then the now came out and Victoria
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got off of his crutches, handed one to his partner to hail and
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they went down there and basically laid waste to send to
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slaughter for almost the entire match.
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And then all of a sudden I come back from going to the bathroom
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and taking care of my wife and Tommy.
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Jim is giving a. Speech.
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Well, yeah, because I know, but you're skipping the key parts.
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Sorry. And then, you know, the match
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goes on. Tommy's getting ready to win.
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Danny Moff gets on the apron to grab Josh Shirnoff.
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Victoria comes up with the kendo stick.
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He kicks Moth and as he goes to swing Moth moved.
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He hits Dreamer across the back. Dreamer happens to fall and
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Chernoff falls on top of him for the three count.
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And Tommy Dreamer can no longer wrestle in the MJN center.
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And one thing about Tommy Dreamer is Tommy is a man of his
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word. That's one thing I understand.
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But guess what? That's one thing cards are
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subject to change. But correct OG yeah cards you.
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Are correct. But that doesn't he's not going
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to wrestle there again. I'd be surprised if he does.
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So the last match was. Was Killer Cross?
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Yes. Was the world title match first?
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Was Killer Cross versus the rude dude the original bro Matt
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Riddle? Short hair.
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Matt Riddle cut his hair, kind of changed up his his trunk
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style a little bit. Killer Cross went from trunks to
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long pants. Mr. Four belt.
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Holder which yes he holds the the RPW belt overseas in across
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the pond he hold No he holds the WSW belt World Series of
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Wrestling out of Australia, he holds the MLW Major League
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Wrestling world title and. He has another belt.
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I can't. Remember I already said it, RPW,
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but the belt that mattered last night was the ACW World
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Heavyweight Title and it was Matt Riddle versus Killer Cross,
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which if you guys have never seen them wrestle, not only did
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they wrestle in WWE, but they wrestled in MLWI can't tell you
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how many times when Matt Riddle was champion, when he wasn't
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champion, it didn't matter. They had some fun.
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You could see they were having a little bit of fun, but they were
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also very competitive. They had a great competitive
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match and then at the end of the show as Killer Cross one, I I
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want to pull this up because I want you guys to see what I saw.
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There was a killer Cross was giving his, you know, his
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speech. He was getting ready to give a
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speech, Say thank you to the fans like he always does.
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And then you got to see this OG. And then that's, I hope it's up
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here. If it's not up here, I'll have
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to find the video and pull it up.
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OK, Yep. All right, so I'm going to
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actually do this right now and I'm going to, I'm going to
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present with I'm going to share my no, can I just do this?
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Oh no, share an extra calendar. Will it let me?
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No, it won't. We're going to share my screen
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with you guys for a couple seconds here, and I'm going to
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do this so I can watch it and see.
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Keep an eye on everything over here.
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We're going to add this to the stage.
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Here it is. So I want you guys to pay
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attention. Hold on, hold on.
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Because the why did the audio not go now?
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What the hell? See, this is the beauty of doing
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these things live, ladies and gentlemen.
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Do you hear it? Most people don't.
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They're too busy cheering the strongest man in the room that
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they don't notice the house roaning beneath their feet.
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Power has a very funny way of making men feel untouchable.
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Sure, they carry championships. They carry victories.
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They carry fear, but did they ever stop to ask who?
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Who gave them permission to carry any of it?
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Tonight a king stood tall. He conquered, He celebrated.
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He believed. The strongest walls never fall
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from the outside, they rot from within.
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Killer cross. Enjoy your Kingdom.
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Learn every hallway, memorize every corner.
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Because when the leaves fall, I'll already be inside there.
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You go October 17th, Mr. Joe Gase, Mischief night #2 October
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17th at the NJ 10 Center. What do you think about?
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That that was a big free agent get.
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That was a huge, huge get for them to be able to bring him in,
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especially fresh off the the Wyatts and everything else.
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I mean, dude, that's huge. That's crazy.
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And at the end, Killer Cross cut the promo and he tells him,
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Joseph, me and you have unfinished business.
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We fought each other each and every week, but we were robbed.
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Not only were we robbed, the people were robbed that tuned in
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each and every week. So on October 17th, come find
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me. And that's how they went off the
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air. So guys, on that note,
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turnbuckles and stogies, Pot is taking a quick 5 minute break
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and we'll be back. With our guest.
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With a special guest and my brother.
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us. And now let's talk about a
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cigar. Well.
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Yeah. We are in negotiations.
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I'm waiting on our samples with a cigar company to make our own
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cigars. Well it's going to be a one and
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done. When I say 1 and done you
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prepaid it's 50 bucks for A5 pack and that's it.
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Once you pay, it goes to the guy that we owe and that's where it
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goes. Us.
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Well, even if it does come to us, because if we order them,
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however we're going to work, decided that either way, that's
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what's going to happen. It's the same.
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It's the cigar you guys seen. We just had to go back to the
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drawing board and make it more cost effective for you guys at
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home watching and listening. So now let's get to the
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interview of the week. The interview of the week is
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brought to you by Jersey Mike's, a sub above.
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And we're going to flip it over to the OG for the introduction
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of our Guest of the Week. What is up?
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Hey guys, I was excited to bring him back here.
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He's our long time friend and owner and founder of Select Draw
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Cutters. Let's bring Mark in right now.
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Mark, what's going on, brother? Another great day smoking a
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cigar got to be a great day. What's going on?
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We haven't talked to you you in forever.
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So what's new in your world there?
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What's going on? So what's new?
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Invented the Select Draw cigar cutter, sold them worldwide and
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now come up with some new ideas. Oh, and I love coming up with
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ideas. So the launch of my DNA will hit
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in 2027. It'll be a a different types of
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cutters based on my insane imagination.
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I've even come up with a weird lighter concept.
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Can't give anything away 'cause, you know, I got to sit with the
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engineers and then I got to get the Ndas and then I got to get
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the patent overtime. But I'm very excited to reenter
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the cigar world after being relaxed for the last about 2 1/2
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three years. There we go.
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So let me ask you this, bud. And we've known each other,
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Geez, now about 12 years. Yeah.
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So something like that. After after you did this
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original, after you did the the breeze through.
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The cup of smoke. The cup of smoke.
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What is your next project? There there's select ways to
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make cigar cutters, and I've realized there's angles, there's
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bends, and there are all kinds of different ways to cut a
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cigar. The goal is to get the flow
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through your mouth as you hold it and blow it out.
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So there's different, we'll say air channels, aerodynamics to
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smoking cigars and it changes the flavor, it changes the where
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the smoke hits on your tongue. So it change, it'll give you a
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different type of feeling when you smoke the cigars.
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And I'm, and I've been off for two weeks and I've been drawing
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my my mechanical drawing that I learned in high school.
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And I've let me look here. I've come up with some really
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crazy stuff. I, I mean, I'm, I'm excited to
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see what you got because you come up with, you know, whether
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it's color wise, color wise, you're, you're shot of smoke,
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your cup of smoke. You know, you have ideas for
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stuff that people would have never thought of that people now
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want to use and get their hands on.
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So I'm, I'm excited and you know, the last time we had you
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on, which was probably a couple of years ago, was the cup of
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smoke. How did, how did that wind up
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selling? Did that take off like the
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select draw did? No, it, I'm going to be totally
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honest, it was conceptual prototype type of thing.
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It sold some, but it was not as successful as select draw, but
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at least I got to get my ID out. What I'm learning is the
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simplest thing is the best thing.
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And so with these new sets of cutters is going to be, I think
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6 of them. I came up with all kinds of
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different angles, all different types of ways to cut on the tap
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and the side, and they're all very unique.
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And I'm hoping people will have a unique experience.
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I even wrote down combinations of the different cutters
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together. Select draw was, I think it was
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a little complicated. I've simplified my ideas to 1
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action and I think that's what people have talked about.
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They want it to be 1 action and I have six of them down to 1
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action. I have one for the ladies, just
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to be honest, I've gone that far.
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So I just can't wait to sit with the engineers.
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I have my drawings, I have my measurements and inches.
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I probably should put in millimeters, but I'm an
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American, so I do inches. So, but I'm very excited.
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I found somebody in Baltimore that can help me with these
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ideas to bring them to market and I'm excited to be the
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inventor now and I think I'll become the manufacturer now with
37:03
the new technologies that exist. Well, that's that's a good thing
37:07
because, and I'm sure Dennis will agree, because then you're
37:10
the manufacturer. That means you pick and choose
37:15
what you can put out there and what you can't put out there.
37:18
If you don't like it, it doesn't leave yourself.
37:21
Absolutely. And you determine the cost that
37:24
way too. You're right.
37:26
And these will be custom made to order, going to start out with
37:32
one color and I already know the material I'm going to used, it's
37:36
going to be a frosted. Well, we'll say, we'll say leave
37:39
it as frosted. I'm not going to say the exact
37:41
color, but after learning from select draw, I think I know how
37:46
to launch the product now and I know the time period.
37:50
So each cutter will come out between 6:00 and 9:00 months
37:56
from each other before we switch colors.
38:00
And it was great to switch and it was great to become get the
38:04
minis. But we didn't have a time.
38:07
We didn't really go based on marketing.
38:09
We went based on our heart. And this time I'm sure we can go
38:15
from 10,000, which we saw with select draw.
38:18
The goal is to get the 25,000 and the but, but it can even be
38:25
higher than that this time because again, Pat, when you
38:29
patent something in metal, it's hard to change.
38:35
This time it'll be based on a material that can be easily
38:38
changed and can have every color of the rainbow.
38:43
And that's what I'm excited about this great new technology
38:46
that's come out. It's very exciting to me.
38:50
There won't be any limitations other than me launching one
38:54
color at a time and one type of cutter at a time.
38:59
And if one blows up, then I'll push that one even harder or
39:03
I'll make more of those. I'll definitely be going to some
39:07
cigar events. The top five states, I'm hitting
39:12
all of those. Last time we just went Willy
39:15
nilly. So I I think I have a more of a
39:18
business mind now after the first one.
39:21
The number one state for smoking cigars is Florida and we never
39:27
went there. Speaking of Florida and there's
39:32
TPA down there, which is the organization that Ishmael
39:37
Olivine. Doctor Oliver from GTO or Doctor
39:40
Oscar from GTO? Kathy's Cigar Box, Mark Being
39:44
and Ronnie from the Great Lakes Smoke Show.
39:46
TPA that happened an event in October, but everything is sold
39:50
out. You can only buy tickets to go
39:52
there. But it's definitely something to
39:56
you can join to join because you, you can join.
40:01
And what's what's nice about that is especially you being the
40:06
the inventor, the manufacturer, the distributor, you can then be
40:12
in contact with cigar lounges, cigar brand owners, media and
40:20
consumers. Correct.
40:22
Because everybody, what they did is they made it to where
40:25
everybody can join. Well, how did that happen?
40:28
It's different levels to the organization and it works out in
40:33
people like your favorite because then people say, well,
40:37
what else does he make? Or you know, they might say to
40:39
you, hey, I saw you make this cutter.
40:41
Do you have anything else? And you can say, Oh yeah, I also
40:44
make select draw or I make this, I make that.
40:48
And now you have the outlets to do media rounds when your
40:53
product comes out, you can go on and send out a mass e-mail to
40:57
all of the media people and say, hey, I got a new product coming
41:02
out and such and such. Let's see who we can schedule,
41:06
what interviews we can schedule for that that launch.
41:10
Or even if you record interviews with people and you know, when
41:14
that goes to launch everybody, you know, if it's October 13th
41:18
of 27, you know, people can start dropping their interviews
41:22
right on that time frame. And then you go from having
41:28
either no interviews to, you know, 30 interviews dropped all
41:32
at once with you and your new product.
41:34
You're absolutely right. The beginning doing Select Draw
41:39
has taught me all the insurance and outs of the cigar industry,
41:44
pitching to a big corporation to see if they'll accept your ID
41:48
and put their name on it. We, I went through all those
41:52
different experiences, wholesale, retail, and I've
41:58
learned a great deal based on that.
42:02
I will be launching a website for this and that'll be very
42:07
simple. We, I think we made it a little
42:09
complicated. It's going to be a video of how
42:11
to use it and the cart to buy. We, we had all kinds of
42:18
different things on our pages and it was good because we were
42:21
brand new and neither one of us knew how to get this stuff out
42:25
there. But after watching the last
42:28
couple years and having the experience on all different
42:32
levels, even the international level, it, it's even the Amazon
42:37
level has taught me so many lessons about business.
42:41
And again, my degree is in science.
42:42
It's not in business, but now I do understand the business model
42:47
and I think it'll be much easier just like you said to make
42:52
launches. We didn't really do launches in
42:56
the proper marketing way. Again, we did it based on our
43:00
heart. But I realized in business you
43:03
have to do it the business way. There is a right way and a wrong
43:06
way in business. We we sold so many despite us
43:11
doing different things. But this time it should be.
43:14
It should just flow like butter. Well, let OG talk to you about
43:19
the business part that. OG just if you can just share
43:26
some of the insights of some wisdom, you know, drop some
43:29
knowledge bombs on us on the business aspect, maybe you know,
43:33
some key points that you didn't think of before that you now
43:36
understand. Like can you elaborate on any of
43:38
that that really help Catalystic Cattle catapult you into this
43:43
next phase and this next chapter in your business?
43:47
So the United States is the number one nation to smoke
43:51
cigars. I think it's it might be 80%,
43:55
but I had an exact percent that I've looked up.
43:58
We are the smokers of the world. And so you want to concentrate
44:03
on those five major states. You want to concentrate on not
44:09
always setting up a vending event, but using that QR code on
44:15
the back of your cutter to press your cigar cutter out there.
44:20
Because once they have, and I've already included that in my
44:24
thinking, the QR code is the greatest thing you can have on
44:28
the back of your product because now everybody can find.
44:33
We play with it on a shirt. It's sort of worked.
44:37
We played with it on different cards and things like that.
44:42
But I I realized that the international market's fine, but
44:48
you want to dominate the American market 1st and you can
44:51
launch an international later. That should be something to do
44:55
later. Based on the magazines we did.
44:59
I can't remember the magazine's name, but we did six or seven
45:03
different magazines, but some of them really didn't have a
45:07
following. So it didn't really matter that
45:10
we got published. It felt good in our heart.
45:15
We were so excited, but it didn't turn into profit.
45:20
And so the digital website stuff, and it's a little shaky,
45:27
we did it. We looked at the numbers.
45:30
It wasn't worth it, not in our case.
45:32
Now maybe with cigars it was because again, this is cigar
45:35
cutters. Very strange marketplace.
45:39
Going to lounges was fun, but you get in one, they buy again
45:43
one time almost like cigars or boutique cigars.
45:47
They buy it one time, they might buy it twice and that's it.
45:50
This time we're going directly to the masses.
45:53
I'm bringing it directly to the people.
45:56
And that's how we made the most money in one in three days.
46:01
Like in Houston, in Houston, I worked the room every day.
46:06
It was exhausting, not going to lie.
46:07
It was very time. But that was the highest amount
46:11
of money we made in three days ever.
46:14
And it's because I was there. I was talking to people, but but
46:19
I realized now is I want to bring it directly.
46:23
PCA is great. The other organization, Boutique
46:28
Cigar Association, is wonderful. Well, they're they're no longer
46:32
around anymore. Yeah, I'm, I'm sort of that a
46:35
chance, but I, I want to launch a website, hit the ground
46:40
running and hit some different places.
46:44
Definitely going to hit this beautiful.
46:46
I'm sure everybody knows about it or some people probably know
46:48
about there's an Indiana train, the last train in the United
46:53
States where you can smoke cigars.
46:58
And I will be on that train next.
47:00
Year awesome. I'm very excited to be there.
47:05
Indiana is part of the top five. I never knew that.
47:11
So some of the things I've researched and looked at I I did
47:14
not know. But I've learned so much in this
47:18
business and there's so many nuances.
47:22
But I'm excited to bring a product to the market again.
47:25
Definitely going to do the R and DI contacted my father and said
47:28
Pops maybe you cut like every one of your damn cigars for like
47:33
a month with the cutter and tell me what you feel.
47:37
I'll be giving you guys cutters to test it cause again you want
47:41
people that smoke cigars to test it to feel it.
47:45
This cigar cutter will be ergonomic.
47:48
It'll probably be the first ergonomic cigar that's ever
47:51
existed. Well, you said there's six of
47:53
them, correct? Yes.
47:56
So there's three of us, so we each get 6.
48:01
You will be receiving prototypes in the mail for testing.
48:06
I will be sending you a survey to tell me what's good and
48:09
what's bad. If anything's not functioning
48:12
right, maybe the blade is off center or something.
48:15
These are all the things I need to know before I do a launch.
48:18
So this will be a much deeper R&D.
48:21
Again we got lucky the last time we were going to do it all
48:25
aluminum and my friend that dabbed us cigars dropped it on
48:29
the floor and the pen curled it it bent.
48:33
We had no idea we were just about to launch too.
48:36
We were within a month of launching and luckily he felt
48:43
bad but I gave him a hug because we were about to lose money
48:47
because we failed to realize the damage that could happen by
48:52
something just falling right. So all these tests have to be
48:56
done this time. The crash test, just like in a
48:59
car, the crash test, the drop test, the throat test, whatever
49:05
test that needs to be done. This will be made out of a very
49:08
special type of material. It should be hard enough to
49:13
survive, but I need people in real world situations to test.
49:19
Well, you know me. Dennis and Joey are always in
49:24
the real world. We always take care of your
49:27
stuff and you know we're going to tell you if it sucks or if
49:32
it's good. Now I will, the one thing I will
49:35
say what I do like about the select draw being made out of
49:39
the the spikes being made out of the the airplane steel is they
49:43
stay sharp no matter how much you use them.
49:48
That's the one thing I I do love and you know is that is
49:52
something like that in your plans for the new Cutter kind of
49:56
using the same material as the the pokers in this.
50:02
No, this time it will be a different material and that's
50:06
why it has to be thoroughly tested.
50:07
This is not going to be a strong as aluminum material and that's
50:12
why I need to test it as many times as possible.
50:15
I'm sure there will be a failure rate because that's just the way
50:18
it is with this material, but I'm hoping that it will stand
50:22
the test of time and will be functional again.
50:26
I want one action. It seems like everybody loves
50:29
one action. Cutter select draw was a choice
50:33
and sometimes people got confused by the choice.
50:37
Right. Now will you?
50:42
Will you make a generation 2 of the original with the new
50:49
technology that you have? Will you make a generation 2 of
50:52
the original? I definitely could do that down
50:55
the line. I think that's a great idea.
50:58
But I wanna launch all new ideas.
51:00
What I tell people all the time is the idea was fun.
51:05
Yeah, manufacturing was OK. The selling was confusing.
51:12
It can be. It can be.
51:14
I think some, I think you nailed it earlier when sometime,
51:17
sometimes you overthink over and and if you keep it simple, you
51:22
eliminate all that chaos that goes through your brain and
51:26
sometimes you overthink yourself out of maybe a better product
51:29
because you overthought that. You know what I mean?
51:31
Absolutely. And that's why I need to have at
51:34
least 10 to 20 people to test give me the reviews.
51:39
I like this. I don't like this.
51:42
The great thing about this material is it's malleable.
51:46
So it won't be a patent. Well, the patent will come
51:50
later, but it won't be something I can't change.
51:53
So you say, hey, it should. It should have this indented in
51:58
it. I was like, oh, I would have
52:00
never thought of that. I can just change the CAD
52:03
drawing and make it exactly what you just said.
52:07
All this is before the patent. So I want to get in in enough
52:10
hands that that week, honestly, it's going to be our cigar.
52:14
It's called my DNA. It is the series, my DNA.
52:18
That's going to be the name. But it's really going to be our
52:22
cigar cutter because it's going to be the cigar people helping
52:27
me to make it the best cutter. Right, so I'm going to have to
52:32
get you in touch with bad Ass Cigar Life because if you ever
52:37
watch his videos every day, he's up to like 4000 videos a year.
52:45
He does them every day. He does 4000 videos.
52:50
Well, he doesn't do 4000 videos every day.
52:52
Not every day, but you know it's.
52:53
Up to like 4000 posts. So I'm going to get you in touch
52:57
with him because he will tell you.
53:00
He's another one like us. If it sucks or if it's, well,
53:03
he. Has a select draw.
53:05
Right. And he likes it, yeah, but I'm
53:09
going to get you in touch with him and you can include him
53:13
also. Because he's like us.
53:15
He like you like me, like OG, like my dad, he's out there like
53:20
us smoking cigars every day. You know, I'm like you said, the
53:24
best way to do it is to get it in the hands of people who will
53:26
use it every day. Who?
53:28
Smoke cigars, even if it's not every day, every other day,
53:32
whatever. They're still smoking, so
53:34
they're still going to use. It not somebody that goes in and
53:36
goes oh let's put this aside and I'll use it in two weeks, 3
53:40
weeks down the road. Well, I I'd mentioned the mark
53:43
off, off camera, off recording, I'd mentioned that I brought one
53:49
of the cutters to one of my local lounges.
53:51
They had never seen it before. And I bought the little mini.
53:55
I bought the black Mini 1. I have mini the top of my head
53:59
but I still have it sitting around somewhere.
54:01
The owner fell in love with it instantly.
54:05
So what I, what I did was I left it there.
54:08
I said, listen, this is yours. Have your customers try this
54:13
like suggested to him. And he goes, I'm telling you
54:16
right now, I'm ordering them. I'm I, I like the whole line.
54:19
I showed him your whole line. He said, I love it.
54:22
I love it all. He said I'm ordering them and he
54:26
said I'm ordering them and if I like something, all my customers
54:29
are loyal to me, they'll buy it too.
54:31
So he loved the simplicity of it, the concept of just punch
54:37
and light and smoke, very simple, very straightforward and
54:42
adored the black and the silver. He said it looks classy, it
54:47
looks simple and a very simple concept.
54:49
And he said my customers are going to eat them up.
54:52
So we'll be in touch about that, you know.
54:55
What it is too about that, and I've, I've said this to people
54:57
all the time, is you could leave it in your car and you always
54:59
have a cutter. Yeah, always.
55:02
You can leave it in your car, in your work bag, in your golf bag,
55:05
whatever. You always have a cutter and it
55:09
may not be the one you want at the time.
55:11
You may want a straight cutter or V cut.
55:12
But when you don't have one or you lost it or it broke while
55:16
you were driving, whatever, you know, you have that select draw
55:20
that you can kind of, you know, do what you got to do to it to
55:23
make it. And, and Mark, Mark, you're
55:27
going to love this cause this is going to hit home to you because
55:30
he said this, I did not plant the seed.
55:32
He said his wife smokes cigars too.
55:35
She doesn't smoke as much as him because she doesn't like the
55:38
tobacco ending up in her mouth. And I said, well, this will help
55:44
eliminate 90 to 99% of that. I said, and he was like, well,
55:50
then my wife will then hear much more smoke.
55:51
And if, if I, you know, if it does it all that it says it
55:54
does. And I said it's I have this with
55:57
me all the time. I have two of the black ones,
56:00
one, the one black one's in my truck.
56:02
And now that the shop has the other one, but I use it I would
56:07
say nearly 100% of the time. Was that the one?
56:11
And it's it the Welton, The Welton room?
56:15
Yeah, yeah. And they are Mark, they are a
56:18
high end cigar lounge. They're in a very affluent part
56:23
of town. So price point, I already told
56:28
him pride point probably going to be spot on anyway for him,
56:31
but his customers will have no issue going in and going what's
56:36
that? I want one give it to me and
56:38
they'll they're going to buy them and they're going to buy
56:40
them fast, so. That's.
56:42
Great. I'll be in touch with you about
56:44
it. Yeah, definitely.
56:45
And you know, after a while we thought we needed to be
56:48
independent, right? It was all select draw or
56:51
nothing when we figured out that B cut with side draw was the
56:57
most popular way to do it. So you cut with the V, you add 3
57:03
three holes to the side and then three, three holes to the other
57:06
side. And once I made those videos,
57:09
people understood it. Still people get confused
57:12
because it's, it's not as simple as just doing it.
57:17
Sometimes people need that video.
57:19
And that's why I'm going to do a video for every single cutter
57:23
multiple times with multiple people so that people can see
57:27
how to use it over and over and over again.
57:31
Because again, the 1st place no, one of the cigar lines I went to
57:35
the guy just slammed it into it. Yeah, he said.
57:38
He said it didn't work, Mark, it didn't work.
57:40
I said wait a second, you're supposed to finacident.
57:44
Once I showed him he was he was like oh, but he had busted like
57:48
3 cigars before I got to him. He said he could do it.
57:52
I'll do it myself. I'll do it myself.
57:53
No, I have to teach you with the new set of cutters.
57:57
There is no teaching. I'm gonna have a video 1 action.
58:02
Bam, it's done. There you go.
58:04
That's the cutter. You don't.
58:07
Just like that. On that note, guys, we got to
58:10
take a 5 minute break and we'll be right back with our guest of
58:13
the week. What is up?
1:02:02
What is up? Happy Sunday, Happy fun Day.
1:02:04
It is I, the big dog, the vanilla gorilla, the OG.
1:02:08
We are Turnbuckles and Stogies pod and we are here today with
1:02:11
our special guest of the week, Mr. Mark from Select Draw.
1:02:17
Mark, I got to ask this before. I would be remiss if I didn't
1:02:21
ask this question, and I want to ask it before I forget.
1:02:23
Now that you're back. Now that you're back, you're
1:02:27
gonna brush the dust off that robe.
1:02:30
Are we gonna see you in that robe again?
1:02:32
The the robe will be dusted off. I have new robes to show.
1:02:35
I have a blue robe. I have a burgundy robe, and I'm
1:02:38
gonna and I'm gonna get two or three other robes.
1:02:41
The robes are. Back Hold on, Hold on.
1:02:43
Hold on, hold on, hold on time. Out, time out, time out.
1:02:47
Dust the the dust off the robes. What about the yeah beard?
1:02:53
What are you talking about? That's classy.
1:02:54
Look at that. That's knowledge and wisdom
1:02:56
right there, hanging from a chin.
1:02:58
It's all that's. What that is No.
1:02:59
You know what the that goes? That's a guy who's been hard at
1:03:04
work with his new invention. That's what that shows all.
1:03:06
You guys say that 'cause I got I got a great beard now that I'm
1:03:11
retired and everything else that I'm old.
1:03:14
So what's the difference between him and I?
1:03:18
Again, it's wisdom on his part. We're both old.
1:03:23
Yours is a Gray beard. They're just messing with you.
1:03:30
Totally messing with you. Hey and before I always want to
1:03:34
do this every show and I forget but shout out to MBR.
1:03:36
Thank you for bring in turnbuckles, doggies on.
1:03:39
Shout out to all our veterans out there.
1:03:41
Thank you for your service and all that you sacrifices you make
1:03:44
for this great nation of ours. So I want to put that out there
1:03:47
too. MBR is included on one of our
1:03:50
designs on Fort John's Apparel store.
1:03:54
Yes. I included the MBR logo on one
1:03:57
of our designs. Very cool, very cool.
1:04:00
They are. They are included.
1:04:01
Actually, they are included in our LJN inspired action figure
1:04:07
design. That was cool, by the way, That
1:04:10
was really cool. On
1:04:12
fourjohnsapparel.com/turnbuckles of Stobies.
1:04:17
And shout out to Jersey Mike's, by the way.
1:04:20
Yes, guys, I was going to surprise you with this.
1:04:22
But at one of the next shows that we're going to be together,
1:04:25
I'm made good friends with the owner of the local franchise
1:04:29
here, and Jersey Mike's is going to graciously provide us with
1:04:33
lunch one day. So I'm going to bring down some
1:04:36
Jersey Mikes, some Subs, some chips, and a few drinks for us.
1:04:40
So. Absolutely.
1:04:41
Let's, let's. That's fantastic.
1:04:43
Let's get back to that. So I know you said and you I I
1:04:50
thought I was going crazy, but. Well, you are, but that's.
1:04:53
You kept saying July 1st, black first, black first.
1:04:56
We're in July 18th, 19th and it's still not open.
1:05:01
What happened? So it it's still going to open,
1:05:05
but the new owner is gonna be very meticulous on the layout of
1:05:09
the store. He's very particular.
1:05:12
He's more hands on than the previous owner.
1:05:15
It's gonna be more of a updated lounge.
1:05:20
The front store aspect will actually look more like a store
1:05:23
and then the back lounge is getting a whole new
1:05:26
redecoration. But same feel the the leather
1:05:29
furniture, you know, the the nice end tables, it's going to
1:05:33
be very classy back there. So he's just being very
1:05:36
particular. I got a sneak peek.
1:05:38
I was made to leave my phone in the car so I couldn't take any
1:05:42
photos or anything. But the old lounge that used to
1:05:45
be Park Lane is going to be reopening under a brand new
1:05:49
owner, brand new name. So in Clifton Park, NY, Stay
1:05:53
tuned, it's coming soon, within the next few weeks, they're
1:05:56
going to officially open. So.
1:05:58
So that will be out. So.
1:06:00
Turnbuckles and Stogies has a home to film up there.
1:06:02
This is what I'm saying, I'm trying to get to the point here
1:06:05
so it ain't open. Can Turnbuckles and Stogies pod
1:06:10
come up there and film their podcast?
1:06:13
When they if we don't have to film a podcast even if we can no
1:06:16
some content. When they open, can we go up
1:06:19
there and film our podcast that day?
1:06:21
Yes. You already asked.
1:06:26
Listen, if it's everything that I've seen so far, it's going to
1:06:30
be all of that and more. And yes, we are invited to host
1:06:34
our shows there and obviously we're going to pitch their store
1:06:39
as well. And Mark, I will try to get
1:06:41
Selectra on there as well. Put them on the shelf.
1:06:43
Put the cutters on their shelf. So.
1:06:46
We. Have not been to a lounge in
1:06:49
about a year so we. Went to a lounge.
1:06:53
Hold on, we haven't been to a lounge in about a year because
1:06:55
we had a we had to move from my house, my apartment into a house
1:07:00
now. So it's stressful and oh geez,
1:07:03
oh geez, been here. It's right back there.
1:07:06
Behind me is the backyard. It's been stressful because, you
1:07:10
know, we got, we got to pay the electric, we got to pay this.
1:07:13
But when I get back into the lounge across the bridge, I'm
1:07:20
going to bring my select draw and talk to the owner about
1:07:25
getting them in there because I'm friends with everybody in
1:07:28
there and they always hit me up. When when you coming back?
1:07:30
When you coming back? When you coming?
1:07:32
Back select Draw with the turnbuckles.
1:07:33
And I'll be able to cigars, select draw with turnbuckles and
1:07:36
stroke and cigars. There you go.
1:07:39
I appreciate the connections, guys.
1:07:41
I appreciate all that you've done for Select Draw and all the
1:07:45
help that you've done over the years, and I appreciate your
1:07:48
kindness. We had such a good time hanging
1:07:52
out with each other. When we say that.
1:07:54
That event that we had together with me, you, jeez, we had what,
1:07:59
like 150 people there, I think, even if not more.
1:08:03
So do you remember the day that we first met?
1:08:09
Do you remember that day? Because I do.
1:08:13
Is it CI? Yeah.
1:08:14
No, no, it wasn't CI. Was it the New Jersey spot?
1:08:19
Oh yes, that was when you came into a lot of the first time,
1:08:23
yes, and and I'm going to tell you exactly what it what
1:08:28
happened. That was that was when you gave
1:08:30
us the select draw cutters. That was when when we were
1:08:33
leaving and you came over and you said, hold on, I got
1:08:35
something for you and you walked over the car and you handed us
1:08:38
the silver and the black and I that black one has gone to hell
1:08:43
and back with me. I mean, it's gone to the
1:08:46
Carolinas, it's gone to Jersey, it's gone to Pai Mean it's in.
1:08:51
I still have it. It's just in one of my many
1:08:53
different soap bags that have seen a different state that I
1:08:58
take all of my shit to. I just don't know who where it
1:09:01
is. Because the day that you gave us
1:09:05
that stuff, I'll never forget. Cody called me.
1:09:09
It was like, yo, he didn't give me one.
1:09:11
I said, bro, I can't tell a guy what to do.
1:09:14
That's him, not mine. That was when you came.
1:09:16
He didn't give me one. That was when you had the select
1:09:18
draw sneakers, the select draw pants, the shirt.
1:09:22
I said that's his business. He invited us.
1:09:25
We didn't invite him. He invited us, but you invited
1:09:30
me. I said I did, but I didn't say
1:09:32
you were getting anything. We didn't.
1:09:33
Know, First off, we didn't even know that.
1:09:36
We just, you said, yo, I'm going to be up in Jersey this weekend.
1:09:40
Where can we go to hang out in the first place?
1:09:42
We all thought of was fanatics because it was still nice out.
1:09:45
You could sit outside, you weren't on top of everybody.
1:09:48
We could all go on the one little table and kind of hang
1:09:51
out. And you know, we tried to cut
1:09:53
her that day and you explained to us how to use it.
1:09:57
And honestly, I still use mine when I remember to take it with
1:10:02
me. I still do it.
1:10:03
That's great. Even on a straight cut, I
1:10:05
punched three holes across here three holes across here and I'll
1:10:09
punch almost all the way around the cap to get that extra air
1:10:12
flow if the cigar is burning a little little rough and tight
1:10:16
Yep, I'm I'm excited for what you have coming, though I will
1:10:20
tell you that I'm. I'm can't wait to see what and
1:10:23
the fact. That you've you've already
1:10:24
gotten 6 out of your out of your brain that you've put on paper.
1:10:33
That means that you might have just done 6, but that doesn't
1:10:37
mean there's not, you know, 15 more in your head.
1:10:42
You're right. You're a mad scientist, Mark.
1:10:44
You're a mad scientist and the the Wizard of of Cutters.
1:10:51
You're the Wizard of cutters. I appreciate that I'll have a
1:10:54
special punch for y'all to try too come up with all kinds of
1:10:59
strange things. I I think the punch might be the
1:11:04
greatest thing I've ever made, but it's going to be the hardest
1:11:08
to sit down with the engineer and explain.
1:11:10
But now. The great thing is they're going
1:11:12
to help me to create the correct dimensions for it to do what
1:11:17
it's supposed to do. Right now, let me, let me ask
1:11:20
you this 'cause I know you said they got, you got cutters with
1:11:23
one action and one action only. Have you ever considered doing
1:11:27
something like a, a, putting 2 cutters on one kind of thing
1:11:32
like this or like a, a Calibri where you know you have the, the
1:11:36
regular cut in the front and then the V cut on the back.
1:11:38
If you considered doing something like that or or is
1:11:42
that just kind of you're sticking to single cutters for
1:11:45
right now? You're exactly right.
1:11:47
You just hit a new point with every blade.
1:11:51
There's two sides, right? Right, so you're exactly right.
1:11:55
I I came up with an idea. The front blade is 1 cut and on
1:12:02
the other side is another cut. So you get to choose your cut
1:12:05
still 1 action, but now you got to make a choice what side you
1:12:09
use. So yes, I've definitely thought
1:12:11
of that because with all the different angles, most times we
1:12:15
only use one side or one side of the blade, but there's 2.
1:12:21
So like you just said, you can have a blade will say a funny
1:12:27
shape blade, it'll give you 1 cut on one side and a completely
1:12:32
different cut on the other side. So you're exactly right, one of
1:12:35
them will be dual choice. I I think the most exciting part
1:12:42
about the new cutters is what you hit on when you were
1:12:45
explaining with the new cutters, you're going to get different
1:12:49
nuances out of the cigar. Like maybe you smoked the same
1:12:53
cigar. Maybe you're, you're a padrone
1:12:55
guy and that's all you smoke is padrone and all of a sudden you
1:12:58
use this cutter and now all of a sudden you're getting a
1:13:00
different profile on a cigar you've been smoking for 10-15
1:13:05
years. And all of a sudden you're like,
1:13:06
whoa, what in the I didn't know this had this in it.
1:13:10
Like what is this all about? That's what's exciting to me is
1:13:13
rediscovering an oldest old cigar that you use or a steady
1:13:17
cigar that you use and getting a new nuance, a new flavor out of
1:13:22
it. That's exciting to me.
1:13:23
I'm looking forward to that. You hit the nail on the head.
1:13:27
The goal now is for the Lenox that you use.
1:13:32
Let's say you straight, you do straight cut every time.
1:13:35
Now you use the special punch. I'll I'll leave it at that.
1:13:41
And again, like you just said, you get a brand new experience
1:13:46
because you're either using the straight cut in combination with
1:13:51
the special punch or like I wrote down, I wrote down.
1:13:55
It was amazing when I, when I had all the cutters and I wrote
1:13:58
them all down, say wait a second.
1:14:01
Now they can make one choice action, but if they want to add
1:14:05
a choice, they can add the choice on.
1:14:08
So now it's insanity. It's that it blew.
1:14:11
I couldn't go to, you know, as always, I couldn't go to sleep.
1:14:15
I was up to 4:00 AM drawing and thinking and it woke me up.
1:14:19
The punch woke me up. I said, wait a second.
1:14:23
Oh, oh, no. I just, oh, oh, I got to go sit
1:14:26
with them with this one. So it, it hit me at 4:00 AM with
1:14:31
the punch, I had to get out of bed and start drawing just like
1:14:35
I always do. And when I finally finished, I
1:14:38
was like, Oh my goodness. This could have completely
1:14:42
changed the flavor that you're used to because it completely
1:14:47
changed the flow of air, the draw.
1:14:50
It completely changed the draw. It added different, a different
1:14:56
direction in the drawer, which is insane.
1:14:58
But again, straight cut will always be the number one forever
1:15:02
because that's what people want and that's the easiest way to do
1:15:05
it. But there are so many different
1:15:09
angles. This what is I'm just going to
1:15:11
throw out there. There's 65°, there's 90°,
1:15:14
there's 120 degrees. So all these different degrees
1:15:19
change how the flow of the air is drawn.
1:15:24
And it just hit me. All of a sudden.
1:15:26
I was like, Oh my goodness, I can't believe this.
1:15:29
Let me answer this. Say you get up at 4:00 in the
1:15:32
morning just to draw. Yeah.
1:15:35
So what does your wife think about this situation?
1:15:38
She thinks I'm insane, but she'll take the cash when it
1:15:41
rolls in. See, that's the funny part.
1:15:43
She'll take that. There's a book I bought while I
1:15:45
was on vacation and it's full of full of all the different things
1:15:50
I thought up over 2 weeks and it was only two weeks, but it
1:15:55
really happened in 2 days. As usual, it happens too fast
1:15:58
and my brain's about to explode and she's like Mark, Wow.
1:16:02
Yeah, you do it in two days and then you need like a.
1:16:05
Week to just recharge. To do is take time to recharge
1:16:11
and then start all over. Not start all over, but start
1:16:14
from where you end it. This way you can have time to
1:16:17
spend with the wife while you're sleeping.
1:16:19
Maybe make some babies. Or things like that.
1:16:23
My baby days are over. But thanks, I appreciate that.
1:16:26
I. Can't understand.
1:16:29
I'm telling you from a friend to a friend.
1:16:31
No, I hear you. I hear.
1:16:32
You well Mark Mark as friends of the show and personally with
1:16:36
each of us, we do expect a free ticket on your yacht when you
1:16:40
make the big time OK, we want to go cruising around the Bay with
1:16:43
you on your. Yard turnbuckles and stogies
1:16:45
from his yacht with him while we're sitting there smoking
1:16:47
sports. That's an invitation that's
1:16:50
automatic. Smoking turnbuckles and stogies
1:16:53
cigars. The the difference this time is
1:16:56
I'm going to pace myself so I don't burn out, because that's
1:16:59
what. There you go.
1:17:00
There you go. Five years to do a celestial.
1:17:02
I totally burned out stop post and stopped everything and was
1:17:08
just laying there like Oh my God.
1:17:10
I know because I hit you up and I'm like, yo bro, where you
1:17:13
been? You're like, I'm OK.
1:17:16
I think me and him were talking the other day and I'm like, you
1:17:19
know, I haven't heard from Mark. I'm like, I haven't seen him.
1:17:21
I'm like, I hope he's OK. And then I think I messaged you
1:17:25
and I'm like, I seen you post and I'm like, oh, I'm like
1:17:29
you're you're OK, you're good. You're all right.
1:17:31
You're like, yeah, I'm, you know, I've been busy.
1:17:33
I've been working. I'm like, well, OK, that's good.
1:17:35
I'm like, at least we know, you know, because when, when people
1:17:38
go Mia, you know, you don't know what happened.
1:17:40
You don't know if anything went wrong, if they got sick, if they
1:17:43
got hurt, whatever. So you know, it's nice when you
1:17:47
see somebody post again after like you said, after being burnt
1:17:51
out like that, you know, with pushing it so hard and posting
1:17:54
every day because you were trying to push the product.
1:17:57
Now having like you said, knowing what you've done and and
1:18:01
having the resources you have now, it makes it a little easier
1:18:05
for you because you can also too, obviously with the
1:18:10
advancement of Instagram and everything, you can schedule
1:18:13
videos so you don't even have to make them every day.
1:18:16
You can make two or three a day and post them throughout the
1:18:20
week. So and not have to burn yourself
1:18:22
out with making a video every day.
1:18:24
So tell us about this. So we haven't seen you in four
1:18:32
years. I texted you, let's say last
1:18:36
year, I think it was. He was like, I'm all right, I'm
1:18:39
good, blah, blah, blah. So next thing I know, I get a
1:18:43
message from OG. Oh, Mark is coming on.
1:18:46
I said Mark, he goes, he goes select draw.
1:18:52
I said when the hell did you talk to him?
1:18:54
Because I texted him. He hasn't answered.
1:18:56
I think I had talked to him. I think I had talked to him the
1:18:59
week before you did. He goes, he's coming on the
1:19:02
show, I said when, and he goes. I know people.
1:19:08
Today's date, I said, whatever, Today's date is the 19th.
1:19:11
I said, oh, that's nice. But yeah.
1:19:15
So I just want to say, bro, it's always a pleasure to have you on
1:19:20
here with all three of us because I love having you on.
1:19:25
I like your grey beard, but it's got to get more black.
1:19:28
I'm always excited to see what you draw up next because you
1:19:32
always have the stuffing going. We're always excited to see what
1:19:37
Mark pulls out of his hat. I appreciate you guys so much.
1:19:44
What I've learned is it's a marathon and I tried this Sprint
1:19:50
and I hurt myself and it wasn't, it wasn't that I hurt anyone.
1:19:54
It's that I, I, I damaged myself running too fast.
1:19:59
And that's why I'm going to pace it slow this time.
1:20:02
This is going to be over years now instead of trying to do it
1:20:06
as quickly as possible. And by doing that it, it was
1:20:10
overwhelming my personalities. Introvert, Draw Something,
1:20:14
relax, have a good time again. Now when I go to cigar events.
1:20:20
VIP, no sales. One of the guys told me that he
1:20:24
he came to me said Mark, you're going too hard.
1:20:27
I said no, no, no, I'm doing, I'm doing it.
1:20:29
He was right. I couldn't listen at the time
1:20:32
because I all I knew was full gas everyday full.
1:20:37
Gas. Five years and it was too much.
1:20:40
It was too much for me. Other people could have
1:20:42
functioned just fine. Not.
1:20:43
A lot of gas. Well, The thing is.
1:20:46
Doing it the way you're doing it now, you know, with that, that
1:20:49
slow kind of build to everything, you may see that
1:20:54
this might take off faster than you thought and you're still not
1:21:00
sprinting. It's just your idea caught on
1:21:02
quick and then people are going to be asking when the next one's
1:21:05
coming. So you know, you said that 6 to
1:21:08
9 month range, which is great. You may change that depending on
1:21:12
how fast that takes off. If somebody's looking for
1:21:15
something new that may go from 6 to 9 to, you know, three to six,
1:21:21
you're right. It's just great to depend on how
1:21:24
fast it takes off. How fast do you want it to take
1:21:27
off is the question. I want to make people happy with
1:21:33
my cigar cutter. This time I have to balance my
1:21:37
sanity against that because last time I did.
1:21:41
Last time I would take a e-mail at any day, ship it out the next
1:21:46
day. I was just always doing that and
1:21:49
Amazon took it to even a higher level.
1:21:52
So I'm not going to even mess with Amazon initially.
1:21:55
This time I'm going to leave it all alone because that was too
1:21:58
fast to pace. That was shipping out 200406100A
1:22:03
thousand at once. Even though it was manufactured.
1:22:07
We had to track it all. We had to make sure there were
1:22:10
times where people bought it too fast and we weren't ready, but
1:22:13
oh shit, they're all gone. We got to ship it back in
1:22:16
immediately. No, this time it's going to be
1:22:21
just like you just said, Joey it I'm going to try to paste it.
1:22:25
If it gets too big, I can buy more of these particular
1:22:29
machines to create it. And so it'll be AI think I, I
1:22:37
can't, I can't be sure. I might not be able to control
1:22:40
the pace again, but my reaction will be different.
1:22:45
I won't push. Myself ready for it if it does
1:22:48
do that. Oh, wow, it could explode.
1:22:51
But the difference will be this time I'm going to be like, OK,
1:22:55
I'm sending out, well, people have bought this.
1:23:00
I have to make so many with this particular type of technology.
1:23:04
You can set it and forget it. And that's why I have to go to
1:23:07
the engineers, get that CAD drawing, and once I get the CAD
1:23:11
drawing, I make them. I sell them on IG for a little
1:23:16
while, nice and slow. Then I bring out the website and
1:23:20
it might speed up. And I think this time I have AI,
1:23:25
have a better mindset, I have a older mindset and like you said,
1:23:29
wiser mindset. So even if somebody orders 1000
1:23:32
at once, I'll say, hey, this is manufactured by me.
1:23:37
I'm going to get them to them as soon as possible.
1:23:40
And I'll, I'll ship 100 to them and I'll say, OK, now I'm
1:23:45
shipping 200 to you. Now I'm getting 300 to you.
1:23:48
So. If somebody calls you like OG
1:23:52
and says, hey listen, the Wellington shop wants 500 your
1:24:00
cutters the. New ones, the new ones.
1:24:02
Can you ship them out? With the with the different
1:24:07
devices I can buy the device in one day and start manufacturing.
1:24:12
It's all based on the CAD drawing.
1:24:14
So yes, I can get 1000 out a week based on electricity.
1:24:20
Right. Right, right.
1:24:23
And, and being that you are the manufacturer, the designer, the
1:24:27
shipper, you can keep costs down.
1:24:29
But you may be able to, you know, have a place where you can
1:24:32
have somebody just you just design them and make them and
1:24:36
then build them however you put them together and then pay
1:24:39
somebody to ship them. Correct.
1:24:42
I can do that now too. I can even hire somebody or I
1:24:46
can go to the same engineers and say, Hey, I need you to make
1:24:49
this one because these people have these devices, right?
1:24:53
So I can outsource now. Before it was how many do we
1:24:58
need from we can be totally honest now, how many do we need
1:25:02
from China? Are we going to run out with the
1:25:06
with the way things are nowadays, it's a good select
1:25:09
draw slowed down because we wouldn't be able to get our
1:25:14
shipment in now. Yeah.
1:25:17
It would be stuck someplace now just because of the way the
1:25:20
world is right now. Having complete autonomy and
1:25:23
having complete control means I set the pace again.
1:25:27
If they asked for that many, I would call the owner and say,
1:25:30
hey, I can get them to you in a week or so, but then I have to
1:25:36
scale up, which is OK, you know, And then then it's quality
1:25:41
control after that again, each one.
1:25:44
I don't, I'm not, I haven't even thought of, I've thought of
1:25:47
quality control, but quality control can't be me.
1:25:50
So I would have to have a team of people just cut it, cut it,
1:25:54
cut it, cut it. OK, five cuts.
1:25:57
They all look good. No snags, no weird peeling.
1:26:02
It's good. Send it so.
1:26:05
Listen, Mark, we appreciate you being on our show.
1:26:09
It's time for us to wind down here.
1:26:12
We got turnbuckles and Stogie's pot.
1:26:14
I'm the big dog, the vanilla gorilla, the OG, and our special
1:26:19
guest Mark from SSD Cigars. Cigar cutters, cigar cutters and
1:26:26
whatever the whatever the new brand of and the the my.
1:26:31
My DNA. My.
1:26:33
DNA I got to I, I, it's been a thing I've been doing here on
1:26:39
the podcast. So it kind of wind down.
1:26:41
I've asked all the guests this these guys know where it's it's
1:26:44
going. But with the fast-paced world,
1:26:46
you talk about pacing yourself and stuff.
1:26:49
You had an opportunity in your schedule.
1:26:51
Let's say this gets out of control, but you have one hour
1:26:53
of uninterrupted time and you can smoke a cigar with anybody
1:26:57
past, present or future. Who would you?
1:27:01
Who would you pick to sit down for one uninterrupted time?
1:27:04
OK to share a cigar with. Let's think about it.
1:27:12
I think I'd smoke a cigar with my dad because he's the one that
1:27:17
got me in all this crap to begin with.
1:27:22
I love my dad. He's always been very
1:27:25
supportive. I've already sent him a message
1:27:28
saying Sir, you're going to have to be testing the my DNA, he
1:27:31
said. Come on, son, I'm ready.
1:27:35
That's fantastic. And, and I actually, I had the
1:27:38
opportunity to meet your dad at the, the big CI event.
1:27:42
And, and he is, he is absolutely, he is hilarious.
1:27:49
He is, he is hilarious, but he's also, like you said, you're your
1:27:53
biggest supporter, the biggest person behind you who's, you
1:27:56
know, ready to whatever you got next, send it my way and let's,
1:28:00
you know, let's kind of put this in motion and see how this
1:28:03
works. Absolutely.
1:28:06
Wonderful, wonderful. We appreciate you coming on, my
1:28:09
brother. We're going to take you off.
1:28:11
Don't go nowhere. I'm sure we all want to talk to
1:28:14
you after this. So guys, it's returned buckles
1:28:16
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1:28:19
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1:28:23
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