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Goatman Encounters - Texas Goatmen & Metroplex Monsters · The Cryptid Huntress

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before my show's over. Okay, y'all stick with me tonight because we have
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a lot to unpack. We're talking goat man, okay, tonight. This
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is something I've been wanting to talk about for a long time, okay,
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and and I picked the right person to come on tonight. His name is
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Jason McClean. He's witnessed to a living terrasaur. He's an author, illustrator,
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and biblical paranormal researcher. Jason McLean has authored and illustrated numerous books,
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including How UFOs and Bigfoot Prove the Bible Is True and Metroplex Monsters. He
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can be found weekly on Jason McLean Questions Everything and the Mysterious Library on Untold
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Radio Network on YouTube. These are all on YouTube, okay, where he
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discusses cryptozoology, ufology, forbidden archaeology, the paranormal, and all sorts of
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other stuff. So please help me. Welcome to Space Out Radio tonight,
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my buddy, Jason McLean. Hey Jessica, Well, hey Jason, long
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time, no see. How are you? Yeah? So far, so
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good. It's not too long. We were just on Donnie Chose Show talking
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about pin apple pizza, Pineapple in hand pizza and let me tell you I
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actually had some of that with me that day and took a big old bite
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of it during the show, and I thought Donnie was going to have a
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heart attack. That was funny. Oh, I loved it. There was
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a lot of fun Again. I like pineapple and my pizza. It's not
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my favorite one, right, but I can dig it. Now. The
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question is were the goat man likes pineapple pizza? That's the real question.
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Oh, I don't know. I don't know what goat man likes to eat.
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Actually, that's a really good question, Jason. He doesn't like pizza,
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though, you don't think do they eat? Are they flesh and bone
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or are they etherical? I don't know. I have no idea. But
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listen, Jason, I grew up hearing stories about goatman and Goatman's bridge.
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I mean, they're all over the country, especially here in the South.
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We have a lot of goat man stories, but particularly Texas. Texas is
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full of goatman. And you're from Texas. Yes, I know about goat
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and so yeah, I grew up and grew up in the Dallas Fort Worth
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Metroplex. You know, hence metroplex monsters, right, Dallas Demons, Fort
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Worth Goatman and Other Terrors of the Trinity River available where refined books and trashy
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rags are sold. That's a great book. Amazing book, y'all. We
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gotta go get this book. Metroplex Monsters. It's so good. Thank you,
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Jason. Sorry, oh no, you're fine. So before we get
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too far into Goatman himself, we kind of need to put down where a
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lot of the mythos because like, basically every town has a goatman's bridge,
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and it does in this in this area, right, particularly the Iron Trust
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bridges. Like everyone knows about the one in Denton, right, old Alton
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Bridge. That's what makes all the all the shows. You know, people
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go out there and they do the recordings. It's an old Iron Trust bridge.
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Again, those like you said, those stories are basically everywhere I actually
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went there. It's an interesting conversation. But here's the thing. We don't
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really see the name Goatman associated with anything in North Texas by and large until
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the Lake Worth Monster event, right, which most people see as a big
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foot because it was. But the thing is Jim Mars in his initial reports
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calls it a goatman because the hair was it was Harry like a goat,
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so he calls it a goatman. Well, from that point on, the
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name because it was such a big event here in the area, like people
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went out there, and this is one of those things where once it was
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reported on w FAA, the local radio station at the time, or the
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big one at the time, Like people went out to Lake Worth to look
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for this thing, which is why there's that sighting with dozens of people,
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right, including police officers in broad daylight. Well, the name goat gets
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associated with other Bigfoot sightings that occur later that year. But then also all
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of these areas where you had stories of the creature or the monster, which
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goes back to the eighteen hundreds, right, people would talk about these this
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hairy man beast that would go up and down the creeks. Sound familiar,
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but that goes on the way back to the hundreds. So the thing is
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now the name goatman sort of overwrites all of the paranormal stories and accounts and
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accounts of Bigfoot. Essentially in North Texas just everywhere, everything becomes goatman.
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The weird thing that occurs, though, is over time people start seeing a
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goat man. Right. Each a lot of these bridges like Old Foamy,
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right, which is down in Cleburn. Actually just drove through cleberd in this
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afternoon. It's the story there. Everyone has its own little story. But
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you start noticing when you look at them in totality, everyone sort of took
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the Jim Mars accounts of the Lake Worth Monster and superimpose them on these bridges
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and on these areas. Right because the name, because of the name goatman,
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but each one has a little difference to them. And but then people
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start seeing actual goatman. Probably the most famous examples is White Rock Lake,
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which is literally in Dallas. Right, it's not in downtown Dallas, but
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it's in Dallas. People actually metropolitan, very metropoul This is a little bit
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more off, you know, it's a little bit off, but it's still
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like you're in a city, like it's not a hidden that being said,
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people see an actual goat man. Sandy Grace is probably the most famous encounter.
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Nick Redfern right about her wrote about her. Right broad daylight, a
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goat man seven foot tall walks out of the bushes towards here, smiling,
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disappears in a flash of light. Oh my gosh, which makes it a
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little more supernatural. Yeah, yeah, oh it is. And again I
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knew a guy. Again. The other report they have in here is actually
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it was sort of exclusive to me. I knew him, I'd known him
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for years. He never told me the story. But he and his friends
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encounter the same apparently the same creature, but at night, him and a
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whole group of friends song. And the thing is, you get far and
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you get a few, you get like a mile or two miles away from
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white Rock Lake proper similarly sized entities are seen, but they it's almost like
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the some of the specific details melt, and they almost look kind of alien
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esque, right, Yes, that's in your book. Yeah, but they're
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more like And again, Old Alton Bridge. I've got a story that happens
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like a quarter of a mile from Old Alton Bridge on the same road,
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and the creature doesn't look anything like it like a goatman himself. Right,
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it's like an alien, right, Yeah, look almost like they're all kind
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of melding together. Jason, It's interesting. And that's and that's part of
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the question I have about the whole goatman phenomenon, is it seems like by
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imposing the name goatman on these places locations on these on these other stories,
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they sort of took on this goatman appearance, right, But then if there's
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for any reason, if they're just far enough away from the from that central
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point of thought, they seem to sort of take a more a not a
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morphous, but a less distinct form. They still have the the backwards facing
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legs, but they don't seem to have the hooves per se. They miss
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they're missing the horns, they were missing the hair, and they start looking
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more you know, what we'd consider like a gray Okay. Do you know
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what this is reminding me of too? Is the j Jersey Devil. Okay.
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And so when when I did I did a show on the Jersey Devil,
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it was actually given to me as a blind remote viewing target, Okay.
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And I was seeing a goatman, Jason, That's what I was.
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That's what I thought I was remote viewing. When I got done with the
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target, I thought I was remote viewing a goatman. And I think it
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was because of the maybe the backwards legs they had like goat legs kind of.
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And uh, I think I have I have a picture of the way
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it was described similarly but not really because they're all different. There's so many
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different types of Jersey devils, sorry, the Jersey devil. There's so many
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different types. This is one of the illustrations which was like a dear bat,
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I don't know what that is, kangaroos something. Yeah. So here's
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the thing, right, all of these depictions are based on an illustration that
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came out in the Philadelphia I want to say it was the Philadelphia newspaper.
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It was right after a mass sighting in broad daylight. The thing is,
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what he did was he took the descriptions that again, as speaking as an
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artist, what he did was he took the descriptions literally, not seriously,
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because what they're trying to do is convey a thought as to what it is
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that they actually saw, and they were using the animals at the time that
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were familiar to them. Right, he didn't take it, but he didn't
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take them seriously. The thing is, if you go back and look at
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it, at what they were describing, it's very clearly a terrasaur. However,
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here's the thing. This is where this is where the whole where this
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ties into what you saw, ties into what we're seeing down here in Dallas.
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The problem is it, once you create sort of an image of these
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creatures in your head, right, even if someone sees like a bigfoot or
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a terrasaur, the mythology itself takes up its own life seemingly and either is
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creating these creatures or is allowing something to take that form, right, Because
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this is where it gets weird, because let's be honest, there's no reason
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for a goatman to exist literally, right, like there's no organic reason for
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something for a kime American example, for that to exist. But you go
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back to the beginning of time, the earliest story we have, the epic
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of Gilgamesh. Yeah, I think you do. Exactly how did they depict
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inky Do? Literally gave him a bull's legs and horns, that's right.
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I may have a picture of it that actually yeah, yes, yes,
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I mean the you know while you're looking, Yeah, that's him right there,
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that's ink to Do. That's it, and you know, you know's
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how tall Gilgamesh is as well, by the way, he's holding a lot
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of tiger or lion lion. Yes, that's that's a very common depiction for
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for Gilgamesh. So again, inky Do was a giant he had again he
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has these horns. Again they they associated with a bull, but it's the
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same motif, right uh Thedo. The Indo Russian story of the leshy is
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a very similar description. Why do you think we depict demons the way we
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do the Shahadeem of the Hebrew Bible, which we often translate as demon a
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century they were they were the goat ones or the hairy ones. They were
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depicted as goat demons. Right, yeah, this imagery goes back as far
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as we have them. And and again, whether you're talking about pan you
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know, from from Greek mythology, which is just a so like the highest
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form of the satyr or the fawn, right, depending on what you're talking
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about the Greeks of the Romans, the simplifacting matters. This imagery just exists
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all throughout time, which begs the question is this what they look like or
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is this sort of a form that they've that that that they've given to us?
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And you know, I don't want to get too far off into the
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tulpa per se, but does it allow them access to us? Because it
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seems like they want this, these things seem to want us to have this
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idea of this image in their head, and that's it seems to give them
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the ability to come into our world more than necessary that that is what they
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really look like, because again, once they get away from those locations,
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they seem to be a lot more amorphous or you know, less distinct,
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which begs that question, are we co creating them giving them the physical form
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or or is that what they really look like? They want us to give
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them that power to manifest in that way, because at a certain point we
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need to really ask these questions. All of the ancient you know, no
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matter how far back you go, everyone's like, hey, don't talk about
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these things. Right, even a few hundred years ago they say, don't
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talk about it. It doesn't matter what culture you go to Asia, into
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Russia, Mesopotamia, the Native Americans here, everyone's like, what, don't
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use their proper names, don't talk about them directly. The Irish talk about
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the you know, the Fai folk. They would talk about them as the
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neighbors or the good people. Okay. That reminds me that Jason, That
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reminds me of not only skin walkers, even though we're not supposed to say
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that word in demons. Yeah, you don't say they're named right, correct.
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But that's which is my point. Right when when I see multiple cultures
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all saying the exact same thing, even if there's differences in nuance or differences
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in specifics, but they all generally have the same idea, it's because there's
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probably something to it, like the whole like Windigo, right, you get
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into the actual story of wind of wind Ego, if you want to be
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a little bit more precise, it is something that you that it is a
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spirit that possesses someone for breaking a cultural taboo. Most people mistake them for
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skin walkers, and they're a very different thing. But if you look at
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the actual stories and then go back and look at the original stories of werewolves
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from uh from like the Romanian areas right the Eastern europe in areas, it's
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the original stories of werewolves. Wasn't that you transformed at least from that area.
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Wasn't that you transformed into a wolf per se, but rather you would
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put on a belt like a magic belt, or you broke a cultural taboo
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and you would become possessed by this spirit and you would become a werewolf.
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It wasn't that you physically changed, but you would go out and you would
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damage people, you would hurt people, eat people. Cannibalism is a common
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theme both in the Windy go and werewolves stories. When you start seeing these
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parallels in these cultures that are completely unconnected, you need to start suggest thinking
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maybe it's because there's something, there's a reality to it. We're not supposed
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to give talk about demons per se, We're not supposed to talk about the
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faifolk per se. We're not supposed to talk about these things. Why Well,
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maybe because talking about them gives them power and attracts them to you.
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You're giving them authority to come to you, or you're giving them authority to
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enter into our world in a more material way than what they're normally allowed to
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wed. I think perhaps we underestimate our own power in that old authorities.
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That's right, wow, So basically we can manifest these things. And what
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I find very interesting is that the goatman bridges because it's always under a bridge.
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There's like there's these things that are constant, and every goatman sighting it
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seems like they're around bridges. It abandoned houses or behind houses or something like
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that, but it's mostly bridges. And I have something to do with where
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Satanists go and do rituals, okay, which is there's weedy boards there and
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there's you know, uh, the there's one of the bridges that I was
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reading about it. I don't know if it was the one where ghosts have
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interested their show there, but someone actually painted a wegi board into the boards
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of that. Yeah, that's a Dalton bridge. Yeah, absolutely, it's
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It's funny is if if it wasn't used by Satanists before the legend it is
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now right now? Yeah, because there's multiple legends about where the goatman comes
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from. And again if you look at them, because they've changed over time,
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right in. I talked about that in the book a lot. But
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one of the things you start noticing is they're all derivations of the hanging man's
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story, which every bridge has, right, everyone has the story of the
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of the of the innocent man or even a guilty man who's hanged on a
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bridge and he's and he haunts the bridge for some reason. And and the
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ones in Texas have to do with like back in the I'm gonna say,
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like Jim Crow era right like with the some of them say it, yeah,
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like and so people being hung on the bridge and then coming back and
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haunting that place. But it's always like a life lesson to you know,
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especially for the youth. Yes, like well so absolutely, like there's a
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lot of different like so there's there's three main versions, right, but the
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two that starts stand up the most is the most recent one is again it's
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a that it's a black man who's hanged, but the earlier version seems to
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be again of a white man who had killed children. Right, So either
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way it's either it was the clan who is destroying the life of a prosperous
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black man and that's the lesson we're supposed to take from him, that he's
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haunting it because he's because he you know, because he was done wrong,
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and to imply to tell the story of again of evil, the evils of
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racism. The other version of the story, the earlier version, seems to
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be talking about again that there's evil men out there and you shouldn't be going
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out doing you know, and evil men will pay, but that that evil
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can maybe even transcend because he he's when he's hanged, he's decapitated and apparently
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his body going his head falls into the river and disappears, and so looking
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for this for his head, goes finds a goat and rips it off the
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body and puts it as its own head. But again, these stories are
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all you can find derivations of these stories literally everywhere, because that's the folklore,
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right, But the folklore it's is not the phenomenon. And I think
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that's that's one of the things we always have to keep in mind, is
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folklore is important, but it's not the phenomena itself. And when you see
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the phenomena is described by modern witnesses and what people actually see themselves versus what
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they say is seen, it starts penning a very different picture, right that
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there's that that there is. This is much more complicated than we want it
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to be. And it goes back to even what is the question of what
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is real? Because people say, well is it real? Is it not?
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What do you mean by real? Do you mean are people making it
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up? No? They're not. They're clearly not making up these these stories.
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But are they real in the way that these creatures are natural biological entities
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like you and I are a dog. It's clear that they aren't. They
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are clearly paranormal. The bigger question is why are they taking that form they
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seem to want us to they seem to want to attract us there is are
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we giving them abilities to be there? Are we somehow feeding them? Are
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we giving them more power? Right? When this goes back into the idea
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of, you know, the of Satanic rituals, are they summoned by them?
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Or is that part of the lore to maybe just keep them in our
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minds, because again Bathamet is depicted essentially as a goat man, and I
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don't think that's a coincidence. Okay, So I just had a thought when
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I was in high school, Jason, Okay, so I've been interested in
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the paranormal my entire life. When I was in high school, I'm just
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gonna go ahead and date myself. So y'all know. It was in the
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late nineties, Okay, I was. I was in high school. I
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was really big into mass media, and I did a lot of stories that
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aired out over my school on Fridays, and it had to deal with a
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lot of paranormal stuff that went on from fortune tellers in the area to pig
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Man's house. Okay, indeed, and what I did was I covered the
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local legend and lore of our area. And I actually have the tapes.
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I have the VHS tapes to this day at my mom's house, okay,
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where my friends and I in my class, we were able to go out
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and film these things during the day during school, Okay, So I love
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doing this. So we went out to pig Man's house in where I lived
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in my hometown and the story went And I read this actually in your book
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too, because it was I remember it correlating. There's a story of a
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man who murdered his family and buried their bodies under the house. And this
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is in this house. It's like the old rickety house, and it's in
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the back in the woods, and we would go there late at night.
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I did it, so I know this is real. We went there at
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night, and I'm not saying that I couldn't any records of a man killing
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his family there. But you walk into the house during the daytime, and
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I have this on film. The front living room, the floor is dug
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out like out, and then the ground is dug down like six feet into
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the ground, and they say that's where he buried his family. So you
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go there late at night, j and something runs out from behind the house
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and chases you out of there. And it's like a human, human size,
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humanoid person back there in the middle of nowhere, and it chased this
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out every time we went oh wow, So yeah, so we have a
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pigman. But it's the same the same similar story to what the same story
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someone who killed I mean, and I actually experienced this when I was in
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high Yeah. No, so you could sort of throw the whole slender Man
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thing into this, because he's a great I think he's a great example of
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this where we know slender Man is fake loore, meaning it wasn't it was
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never real. This isn't folklore that actually existed. We know who created when
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it was created, right, and yet the folk the fake loore goes out
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and all of a sudden, after very very short period of time, people
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start seeing slender Man, and people start talking about seeing him out in the
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woods or interacting with him. Some very young some young girls tried to murder
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their friend to appease him. Right, that's right, very demonic, it's
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very right. And it goes back to this idea of okay, we'll hold
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on, how is it this thing that we know was created and people are
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seeing It's like saying, hey, people see Spider Man in the real world,
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right, It's like that shouldn't that shouldn't happen, but it does with
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him. Ironically, as far as comic book characters, people have people who
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actually wrote John Constantine. It is Constantine, not Constantine. The comics are
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very clear on that people, but people who were writing him, who are
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writing his stories have talked about seeing him in the real world. There's like
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they're like, no, this wasn't a man caused playing as John Constantine.
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It was John Constantine and it freaked them out. The guy who created him,
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Alan, I think it was Alan Moore who created him. If not,
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it was Neil Gaiman, but one I think it was. Alan Moore
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believes in essentially word magic, right, that you speak and you can create
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Again, It's not just one person. Numerous authors who worked on his comics.
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While they were working on have talked about encountering John Constantine. So it
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seems as if we as humans have the ability to either create these creatures or
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give I'm just gonna say it, demonic forces the ability to enter into our
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universe and interact with us in those forms if we give them that power and
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that authority, and it seems like a lot of the same reason we have
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these repetitions of ideas is to generate the lore, and the lore then allows
27:36
the men. Did you ever see the It was not the most recent,
27:38
but it was supposed to be the last Freddy Krueger movie that they did.
27:41
It was least one. Robert eg Lindon, I don't think I saw that,
27:45
but I love I love those movies. I think it's called I think
27:48
it's called Final Nightmare. Maybe wrong on that one, but it's it's actually
27:52
my favorite. It ends up being like a movie within a movie within a
27:56
movie. Right there, it's they're making the movie of this new Freddy Freddy
28:02
Krueger movie. And the actress who played the main woman in the original film,
28:08
she's back as herself right talking about this film anyway, She's like,
28:14
but Freddy Krueger's coming out, he's alive. Well, they actually talked.
28:18
There's this interview with Wes Craven in the film itself, and West is saying,
28:22
hey, we have told stories, these horror stories all throughout time because
28:26
it keeps this demon trapped within the story. If we stop telling the story,
28:30
he comes into our world. And okay, so spoiler alert for a
28:34
movie. It's probably thirty years old at this point. The climaxes. She
28:41
goes into its layer, and there's these elements of all these different stories like
28:48
Hansel and Gretel right and Freddy Krue but all these other elements, and she
28:52
ends up killing him in his own layer where he's got Freddy's head. But
28:56
it's clearly like a snake body, right, But you have all these elements
29:00
of all these different stories in it. And of course the end of the
29:03
film is he closes the book, meaning that he had written the whole thing
29:07
as a movie within a move within a movie. But it's this idea that
29:11
that these things seem to need us to allow them into our world, and
29:17
that perhaps our own mythologies and in our own stories are actually detrimental to us
29:22
because we are giving them access to us instead of doing what our what the
29:26
ancients did and our great great grandparents did, which is you don't tell,
29:30
you don't give them names, you don't tell the name, you don't call
29:34
them by name, and you don't talk about them. We've thrown all that
29:38
away, and now we've created a multi billion dollar enterprise of all these different
29:44
television shows and this includes me. I'm in on this seriously, I'm in
29:48
on it, right, But it's like, have we have we almost generated
29:53
these things now, Like maybe the reason we're seeing more of the paranormal is
29:57
because we are giving paranormal access to us in ways that we haven't before.
30:03
Oh my gosh, Jason, just look at the music industry right now,
30:07
Okay that all these concerts where people are they're doing like Satanic rituals on stage
30:11
and like black masses and stuff like, Yes, it's it's really scary and
30:15
really terrible. And uh, you know, as far as as far as
30:22
like the spells go and things like that, I do not allow my son
30:25
to wear clothes that say bored on it or anything that's like self deprecating,
30:30
okay, because those are spells. Like I did a little experiment, right,
30:34
and it was kind of funny, and I did it as a joke,
30:37
but I had I had seen these I bought these Adidas sneakers, right,
30:41
and they said superstar on them. And I have no intention to ever
30:44
be a superstar whatsoever in my life. But I was a kidding around,
30:48
right, and I took a picture and I put it on Instagram and I
30:49
said, hey, words are spells, right, Let's see how where this
30:52
goes. And I was just kidding, and that was like three years ago,
30:56
and I was like, I'm still not a superstar, okay, but
30:59
how I've it's like putting that that positive energy out there, like the positive
31:03
stuff. I didn't even know that those shoes said superstar. Okay, like
31:07
it wasn't It wasn't even like a big deal. But but but it's it's
31:11
all about the intention, and our words are one hundred percent spells. That's
31:15
why a lot of people don't even say good morning anymore. They say grand
31:18
Rising. Okay, it's stuff as small as that, because yeah, I
31:25
don't. I don't want to go around seeing demons names and stuff. I
31:26
okay, So this is the reason that I quit watching Ghost Adventures Jason was
31:32
because of that Goatman Bridge episode. Okay, I quit watching them. It
31:36
was very I felt like they were chanting rituals. Okay, I'm not cool
31:41
with people chanting rituals in my television coming through my portal of my television into
31:48
my home, and I felt as though they were chanting rituals and it was
31:52
invading my space and so I'm muted it. I hit the mute button,
31:57
okay, and I suggest everybody else that too. Okay. If you ever
32:01
feel like somebody's putting a ritual, like doing a chant or whatever, and
32:06
you're watching a show, mute it, Okay, turn it off, don't
32:08
allow it. Do not comply with that. Yoh. Yeah. There's too
32:13
many accounts, I mean, far too many accounts of people hearing, you
32:16
know, rituals being performed on television and stuff happening in their homes. The
32:21
entire idea of the of the hitchhiker phenomena is the fact that you were present
32:27
somewhere where something occurred, and it's able to follow you home because even by
32:30
observing it, you become even if you're not physically there, just by observing
32:35
it and hearing it, you become a participant in it, or at least
32:38
somewhat spiritually liable, which gives these things access to you. I've got numerous
32:44
accounts of people saying, hey, I just watched this video, and now
32:47
these things are happening in my home. Okay, I'm right there with you.
32:51
I don't I don't like it. It happened to me when I was
32:53
watching the latest Doctor Strange film, Like most of that stuff is usually kept
32:57
pretty tame, but there's this one scene and while it was happening, like
33:00
whoa, something like the atmosphere of the movie changed. I'm like, no,
33:04
no, this is the movie. I'm feeling something actually in the theater
33:07
with us like this, and like leaving it, I could feel it trying
33:10
to come with me. I'm like I had to pray, you know,
33:14
break the binding the whole night. Are like, this is not kosher,
33:16
and it's it wasn't like there's fantasy. But then there's hold on why why
33:22
are Hollywood films going out and getting actual occultists to tell to tell them how
33:28
to do real rituals. Why in the world would you want a real ritual
33:31
in a film or a television show. And yet they are in there,
33:36
enmeshed within Hollywood, and they've been so for decades now, where they're like,
33:39
yeah, well here's the witches we go and get so that they can
33:42
make certain that all of our stuff's arranged properly. Why because there's power there
33:47
and that and if we're you get millions of eyes on something, how much
33:52
power is that going to have? So it's not just us in our in
33:58
our shows and whatever. At this point, I think the cats out of
34:00
the bag. So there's no real harm in talking about it in general.
34:02
But the semi facting matters. There was a time when we didn't give these
34:07
things necessarily names, and we were far more careful about what we said because
34:12
of the danger. Well, now that I said, cats out of the
34:15
bag, and it may be that we've given these things far more access to
34:19
us than they've had and maybe thousands of years, and that may be part
34:23
of what we're seeing in the world today. I was actually on a show
34:25
with Ryan Trimbley and one thing's one of the questions we were talking about behind
34:30
the scenes was, you know, the whole Windigo thing is if you break
34:35
a cultural taboo, that's what allows the thing access to you, right,
34:38
And Brandy from Blond's and Boo said, well, you know, you feel
34:44
like he figured he'd have a lot of business today considering everything that's going on.
34:49
And I stopped and I said, well, hold on, weren't we
34:50
just talking about, you know before the show started, all of these weird
34:54
people who, these weird psychos who. Because I'm not into true crime,
34:58
but you know, it seems like every woman. I know, I was
35:00
into true crime. It's starting to worry me a little bit. I quit.
35:02
I quit after first forty eight because I felt like I was going to
35:05
manifest that into my my home and guess what, they started filming it on
35:07
my street where I lived, and so and so I completely quit watching it.
35:13
Yeah, I felt like I was manifesting it my way. Yeah,
35:15
that's probably a wise decision. I don't want to be on that, but
35:20
you know, exactly, And one of the things she mentioned before the show
35:23
is all all these stories of these weird psychopaths who just see everything seems normal,
35:28
then one day they snapped, and like they're always eating people, right,
35:31
there's always some form of ritual cannibalism. Exactly what the heck? And
35:37
I just stopped. I'm like, well, hold on, Brandy, you
35:39
said the Windigo should have a lot of should have a lot of takers.
35:44
But aren't weren't we just before the show talking about all these weird not so
35:47
psychopaths who just go out and do these terrible, horrible things to people,
35:51
and it's always seemingly including ritualized cannibalism. Maybe that's not a Maybe that's not
35:58
an abnormality. Maybe the problem is he's Wendigo has got all the business in
36:01
the world he could ever want. What if, all of the what if
36:06
all the Everyone's like, why is everything going crazy right now? Maybe it's
36:10
because we literally just opened up every gate to hell that we could that we
36:15
you know, because of what's been gone last forty years. Yeah, yeah,
36:19
exactly, Thank you, sirs. Jason. I got another one.
36:27
Okay, So I was watching something. Now this is alleged, you guys.
36:30
I don't want to get in trouble for this, but it's allegedly.
36:34
I watched this video and this is I can't say this is positively for sure,
36:37
but I saw it with my own eyes. It was liquid death.
36:42
They allegedly take witches into their their warehouses and they perform rituals to summon demons
36:51
to get into their water. Okay, they summoned demons to get into their
36:55
canned water. The liquid death is canned water. Okay, so don't aware
37:00
everybody, and you know, most people that drink that have no clue,
37:02
but you're drinking demons allegedly Allegedly. I love that word. You gotta always
37:08
say that, right. Allegedly Yeah, yeah, but it's like we're doing
37:13
all this stuff like I do not consent. Okay, I don't consent to
37:17
allowing demons into my abode, Okay, my body, my temple, my
37:23
whatever. It's not allowed, okay. And uh. And so the first
37:28
step is is becoming aware of these things Jason right, Yes, no exactly.
37:32
It's just understand this stuff is that there's a reality. And it goes
37:36
back to what is the question of real The problem is for most, for
37:39
you know, decades now, people say, oh, none of that's real,
37:43
it's only folklore, it's only tall tales. Well, yeah, maybe
37:49
the story is around the phenomena and the folklore itself is fake. You know,
37:52
there's stories they're told, but it doesn't mean the phenomena itself isn't real.
37:57
It's quite real. People encounter these things. We need to be aware
38:00
of them so that we can so that we don't draw danger to ourselves.
38:06
Text came up with a really interesting phrase. I wish i'd come up with
38:08
it. It's a it's a it's a very astute observation. He calls it
38:13
sudden acute possession. How often do we hear of everything? Some dudes walking
38:17
around? Everything's fine, the next thing, you know, he's unfortunately committed
38:22
suicide or he's done some terrible, terrible thing, and you think, what
38:25
what just happened here. One of the conversations I've had was with several friends
38:30
of mine who were police officers, I said, homicide detectives. I just
38:34
asked them, like, hey, have you ever heard that? You know,
38:36
because you see it in movies and television shows, people saying I don't
38:39
know what came over me. I was like, it felt like I was
38:42
out of my body and I was doing this horrible, horrible thing right.
38:45
Well, I asked him, is that a real thing? They said,
38:49
yes, absolutely. We hear all the time that you have these people who've
38:52
done these horrible things and they're telling you. They're like, it didn't I
38:55
don't know what happened. I just it's like I saw myself doing these horrible
39:00
committing these horrible crimes, but like I couldn't control myself. It may be
39:06
entirely possible that that's what that those stories are real, That they because people
39:12
haven't protected themselves, because they've they've engaged perhaps in things that made them vulnerable.
39:16
They've damaged themselves, and maybe it doesn't have to be as extreme as
39:21
doing or committing a heinous crime. Maybe it's something as subtle. Is just
39:23
not engaging with life the way you should engage with life, right, And
39:29
it's sort of like you're allowing things to keep you depressed or keep you sad,
39:34
or keep you unfocused from your real you know, from your own life.
39:39
It may be that goat man is just a verse. It's just a
39:43
one slice of this entire phenomena that is probably much more damaging than we fundamentally
39:49
realize, but it is a real aspect of it. People do see these
39:52
things, but we need to if we're going to talk about them, we
39:54
need to understand them in their totality and the fact that these things have been
39:59
around for a long time and they want to stay around, and maybe they're
40:02
not exactly as they appear like so much in this area. Absolutely, And
40:08
Okay, so I've actually seen a picture of an actual real goatman before on
40:13
a trocam. We're going to talk about that in just a second, but
40:15
we have android paranormal in the chat wanting to know, Jason, are you
40:19
familiar with the goatman of Bowie, Maryland in the early nineteen seventies, Prince
40:22
George's Prince George's County, Maryland. It may okay, So here's the problem.
40:28
And there's actually a spade of goatman events in the seven in the late
40:31
sixties, early seventies, so I think this is definitely one of them.
40:36
I'm trying to remember if this is the one where he's wielding the axe,
40:38
but there's there's there are several accounts, and I want to say this is
40:43
it, but there's so again, several stories aroout the same time of these
40:46
goatmen attacking people with an axe. And there again, these are not just
40:53
folks, like there's there's clearly some folk stories around them, but there are
40:58
accounts again people seeing them do these things and kill, allegedly murdering people in
41:06
front of them, allegedly murdering people in front of them, and some of
41:09
these murders are then you know, say, oh no, the cops write
41:13
them off is suicides, or they write them off is just missing people.
41:16
Right, So there does seem to be a real body count to this phenomena,
41:21
but it's in multiple locations. Like that's the weird thing. It's the
41:24
same story seem to appear at the same places, same kinds of places at
41:29
the same time. So, I mean, that's just what it is.
41:32
And it's really really weird unless you realize that there's a reality to this phenomena,
41:37
but that we somehow play a role in its creation, that perhaps our
41:43
stories allow them that access and they sort of take those forms that give them
41:47
the most advantageous encounters with humanity. Wow, advantageous to them, not to
41:54
us. Right, Oh my gosh, a goat man wilding an axe.
41:59
That's that's about as terrifying as it gets. That's a little more scary than
42:01
Freddy Krueger actually in my book. Yeah, so I'm right there with you.
42:05
It's like, look right, like, okay, the whole clove thing
42:08
seems you know that that's creepy and all, but yeah, an ax is
42:12
going to do a lot more damage. So yeah, seven foot tall goat
42:15
man with an ax, that seems way scarier. It's like a you know,
42:20
with horns and all that. Donnie cho Thank you. Donnie Chose says
42:22
stuff, you guys go please subscribe to Donnie Chow says stuff who are on
42:27
YouTube. Jason and I were lucky enough to have a discussion on Pineapple and
42:30
ham pizza not too long ago on there, and uh yeah, it tastes
42:36
pretty good, Donnie. I'm sorry, I know Donnie doesn't like that kind
42:37
of pizza, but he says, when someone does a ritual on my TV,
42:42
I put on God of War on PlayStation damon et Krados. Oh my
42:46
gosh, Donnie, thank you for that super chat. That's so sweet of
42:50
you. You're hilarious. That's that's exactly what he would do too. You
42:54
keep us entertained, Donnie. Thank you. Oh yeah, okay, yeah,
43:01
we we have so many great comments in here tonight too. And I
43:05
think I think most of us have heard of stories of goatmen in our our
43:10
local areas and things like that. I just can't imagine the number of goat
43:16
man's tightings where you live. Do you think it's like a whole bunch of
43:19
different goatman or do you think it could potentially be one goatman for the entire
43:23
area? Yeah, that's now that's a really great question because it begs it
43:30
begs the question is there even individuality within the phenomena? Right? This seems
43:37
like a circutest route, But give me a second on this. Like we
43:40
talked about, you know, there is this connection between goatman and Satanic rituals.
43:45
Right. One of the things I sort of saw while again because of
43:51
my own career, you know, the real world that pays the bills.
43:57
I noticed that there were houses. So I'm entitled, so we don't actually
44:01
sell the houses, but we facilitate the paperwork and all that. Right,
44:06
Okay, when I was when I was doing Ario, meaning bank owned properties
44:08
that have been foreclosed are being resold, it wouldn't be It would be fairly
44:15
common for them to be used as drug houses, right. People go in,
44:17
they tear up the place, they use it for drugs, that kind
44:21
of thing for a couple of days, and then they leave before people show
44:24
up. But what was also not terribly uncommon was for them to be used
44:30
for rituals, for Satanic rituals. Now, yeah, exactly. And you'd
44:35
see some of these pictures and you're like, okay, like, but the
44:38
thing is, I started noticing some of these some of these accounts, we're
44:44
not teenagers messing around with spray paint, right like this you see the pictures
44:50
and like this was a full on ritual sacrifice of an animal. I won't
44:54
go into too much detail, but we would have to have people, you
44:59
know, has teams come in cleanup. But you start noticing that the sigils
45:01
were the same and they they were done correctly, Like these weren't just a
45:07
bunch of punk kids, right, this was the real thing. So again,
45:12
well, it's a place of trauma, right, I don't mean interruptee,
45:15
but like a house that's been like for clothes on, Like a lot
45:19
of trauma and sadness and all that kind of stuff is at places like that.
45:22
So and it's not uncommon for people to buy a home and they haven't
45:25
find like a pentagram underneath, like etched into the hardwood floor. Yes,
45:30
oh yeah, no, that's a lot more common than you think. But
45:35
so I talked to a friend of mine, who's I mean When I say
45:37
high up, I mean high up in the police department. And I asked
45:39
him, I said, hey, you know, I can't help us.
45:45
And doing this research for the book, I started like certain things kept popping
45:47
up. I said, tell me if I'm onto something here, yes or
45:52
no. There is either a very one, very powerful satanic occult group that
46:00
has been here for a long time, or there's multiple. But they are
46:05
powerful and they've been here for a very very long time. He said,
46:07
yes, that is one. He goes true, He's like, that's absolutely
46:13
you're He's like, yeah, it's and they are powerful and they've been here
46:15
for a very long time. And what is our point though? What are
46:20
they Why are they doing this, like going into places like that to conjure
46:22
goatman. Well so that's the question, right, what is this connection?
46:27
And one of the stories in the book talks about you know, Old Foamy
46:31
right in Clevelurne. Literally it's just a bridge over a very small creek.
46:37
Whether you think the story is true or not, this is a story that
46:40
is a thing and essentially long story short. These kids they go out there,
46:45
they do the three Honkings things whatever that's supposed to summon the goat man.
46:49
But what they end up getting is a bunch of people in dark robes
46:53
coming after him, and they take off and they survive. Like said,
47:00
with the old Alton Bridge, if it wasn't used for Satanic rituals before it
47:04
is now. I don't know what the connection is between these goatmen and these
47:10
occult behave in these in these cultists, right, I don't know what that
47:14
connection is. Is it causative. Is it just correlative. But again you
47:19
go back to the fact that this these descriptions of these creatures seem to transcend
47:23
culture and time. It may be that they the I have a sneaking suspicion.
47:30
My working theory is that these occultists are not a new phenomena. They've
47:35
always been here. There was always this group that sort of stayed hidden.
47:38
You say, oh, well, not back in the good old days.
47:40
No, they were always there. They were always hiding. They would go,
47:45
they would go to you know, sure, you know, they would
47:46
go perform these rituals on Saturday, and then on Sunday morning they'd be in
47:50
the Baptist church next to you. Right, they hid in plain sight.
47:54
But that's why they would go to these locations was to do these things.
47:58
Maybe the reason we always have these stories and maybe the red again, why
48:01
the bridge that creeks or have long been seen as liminal zones. Maybe it's
48:07
because they are part of a tradition that goes back across again, across cultures
48:13
thousands of years. Because these entities want into our reality and they need us
48:17
to do it. So there's the need for these groups to be going around
48:22
and doing these things to give these things access to us. But again,
48:24
perhaps the form is just it's whatever form it can take it, and it
48:30
is somewhat dependent on the mythologies that we that are in the culture. When
48:34
it looks like when the fairy folk are of the culture, they look like
48:38
fairies. When it's goatman, they look like goatman. Perhaps when they're when
48:44
it's the alien grays, they're the alien grays. It seems like these things,
48:49
you know, or when it's Lachusa, it's la Lachusa. Maybe these
48:53
things take those forms that we that our cultures create eight and that allows the
49:00
access to it and the and the further they get away from those points of
49:04
power, the less defined they become, and perhaps the less effect on reality
49:08
they can have. Oh, Jason, I have so many things going through
49:13
my mind right now, because I've been doing a lot of I've been doing
49:16
shows and research and remote viewing on cryptids that are seen on battle fields where
49:23
there's a lot of trauma and bloodshed, like Old green Eyes down here in
49:29
Chickamauga, Georgia, Okay, and he was actually eating the dead soldiers on
49:32
the field after the war was over, and during the war during the battle
49:37
there, it's like a three day battle. There's a lot of ritualistic blood.
49:42
I'm gonna say blood magic, I guess, I don't know what else
49:45
to call it. Where people are sacrificing people or there's a lot of I
49:47
mean, there's a lot of war going on right now. Do you think
49:50
that potentially? And before before you answer that, let me say, Doug
49:52
Shelby, thank you for that question. I have never come across a staircase
49:57
in the woods, but I have heard of them. I don't know where
49:59
they're going. Don't walk up the staircase, y'all. If y'all see one
50:01
of those. Okay, Yeah, I'm right there with you, Like you
50:06
know what. I've never ran across one, but I just maybe just walk
50:08
do it. Absolutely, don't do it. But okay. So, but
50:13
I'm thinking, like we we're gonna see a perpetual war all the time,
50:15
Jason, do you think and knowing what we know now, I feel like
50:20
there are people in charge of our different countries, okay, who could be
50:24
Satanic, They could do Satanic rituals. I mean, according to what I
50:30
what I've seen with my own eyes. I'm just saying allegedly, Okay,
50:34
it could be potentially, what if they're causing all these wars on this bloodshed
50:38
just for like ritualistic purposes to conjure all these dark entities and goatman and whatever
50:45
else we got. I will I will answer by saying this, why do
50:52
we call it the Holocaust? Literally like we call it the Holocaust? Why
50:58
when? Since we're on YouTube, the funny mustache man gave us gave his
51:04
speech on the Final Solution in Nuremberg, Germany. The stage he was on
51:08
was patterned after the a particular column made but specifically it was a temple built
51:19
in in Turkey, right that was transplanted and brought up to Berlin. I
51:25
can literally see the name of of it. It'll come to uh, it'll
51:30
come to me later. But he was the temple that that it was on.
51:34
Uh is what he was based is that, like the whole setup was
51:37
designed to look like that. The the altar in that temple was a Holocaust
51:44
altar, a Holocaust sacrifices, meaning are sacrifices that are burned in fire.
51:52
My answer to your question is an unabashedly yes. It is not a coincidence
51:59
that we call what happened world War two, the Holocaust because it was it
52:02
was a ritual sacrifice. There is a reason why the first time we started
52:09
getting these really truly mass paranormal events, it coincides with the Armenian genocide by
52:19
the by the Ottoman Turks. Right, it is these are not unrelated ideas,
52:25
the fact that we've been kept in perpetual you know, wars are always
52:30
fought, but not on the scales that we're doing the men. And it
52:35
does seem as if a lot of these events are not just for profit,
52:39
which they are, but also may be mass sacrifices sacrifice, right, and
52:47
there are other things that are going on that are mass sacrifice. Let's say
52:51
the pokey pokey if y'all know what I mean, the hokey pokey, that
52:53
kind of stuff. I mean, we don't know the enorm I want to
53:00
say, the enormosity. That's not even a word. We don't know the
53:04
scale really of what is being done to us. That's why I do not
53:07
consent. Okay, so say all all the trickery and the you know,
53:14
the mind manipulation and the wars and all this stuff, like it's just so
53:20
dark and dim and evil and there's no telling what all is going on around
53:25
us, Jason, Yeah, it's very much by design. Yes, thank
53:30
you Forest Louis for that super sticker. We appreciate you. Yes. So
53:35
yeah, it's it's it's devastating to think about it, but it with all
53:40
of this, I mean, I'm gonna call it blood sacrifice, with all
53:44
the wars that are going on and the bombings and oh my gosh, all
53:47
that stuff. I mean, it is it's very ritualistic. And yeah,
53:51
it is potentially opening up portals where all these dark entities could come into our
53:55
our space, to our world. It was a program and Lter I forgot
53:59
the word. It was. Pergamos is the city that the altar was originally
54:01
in. And here's the thing that is the that is the reason the Book
54:07
of Revelation when when Jesus is writing the Letters to the Seven Churches he talks
54:10
about how Pergamus sits in the shadow of the seat of Satan. That is
54:15
the pergam And altar is literally what he was referring to in that letter.
54:20
So that altar was transported to Berlin in the late eighteen hundreds early nineteen hundreds
54:25
and became the Berlin Museum. So it was very influential in to the German
54:30
people at the time, so which is why he chose it. But that's
54:34
the point, right, This is not These are all these things, these
54:37
ideas, these concepts are all connected. These events, these locations, they're
54:40
all connected. It isn't a coincidence that goatmen are seen around bridges, particularly
54:45
iron Trust bridges, they have the same sort of mythology around them. Why
54:52
because there is a ritual there. Right, there is a connection. There
54:57
is a reality to these things. It is not. These are not coincidences,
55:00
and it would be we'd be a lot we'd be in a lot better
55:04
place if we realized that we are dealing with the reality of the supernatural,
55:07
that it's not just inner heads. They're not just stories. These are real
55:10
things, real entities with real ambitions, and they're not in your interest.
55:16
That's right. They're not irishes and I do not consent. Thank you Shane
55:21
from West Coast dog Man Project. You guys go subscribe to his channel over
55:24
there, West Coast dog Man Project. That's Shane. Okay, he's been
55:29
here at Space Out Radio, y'all. He's awesome. Thank you, Shane.
55:31
Boots on the ground, somebody said hooves on the ground that was Long
55:35
Island By subscribed to him too. Yes, y'all are killing me. Smalls
55:39
man, y'all are so funny. We're having a good time over here,
55:43
even though we're talking about dark stuff. Jason, it's such it's actually such
55:45
a pleasure to get to talk to you about this kind of stuff. I
55:47
mean, I don't hear a whole lot of people talking about Goatman, okay,
55:51
And I just felt an itch to talk about Goatman tonight, and and
55:53
so I'd contacted you and h and you have delivered Jason, big time.
55:59
You are such a pleasure to have on my show and to have another amazing
56:04
conversation. It's always fun. Now we have about a couple of minutes.
56:08
Tell me, tell me, tell my audience actually a little bit about your
56:12
shows that you do and your books and where to find them. So again,
56:16
my books, you can find all of them on Amazon. Like I
56:19
said, Metroplex Monsters is basically everywhere. And as far as my shows.
56:25
Again, every Tuesday, I'm on with Dean Doctor Dean Bertram on Mysterious Library
56:30
where we go through we review books and documentaries. We've been doing a lot
56:36
of documentaries because we've been very busy, but we use those and we review
56:39
them and we talk about the subject matter, right, paranormal, ancient,
56:44
ancient, astronaut theories. We just did any thing on the Nepheleim this last
56:47
week, and that's what we talk about, and it's a lot of fun.
56:51
We try to have a very different conversation than what's often had. And
56:58
then on Wednesdays, which is why I'm here, It's why I love your
57:00
shows exactly. I'm live and we're now moving to Lives. Jason McClean questions.
57:07
Everything was largely pre recorded for most shows with one live, but we're
57:09
switching up. We're gonna do Lives every Wednesdays, and I'm going to start
57:14
doing pop ups most evenings, not Tuesdays because I'm busy over with Dean,
57:19
but a quick ten fifteen minute pop up just to talk about things that have
57:22
occurred in the day, not all of it necessarily paranormal. That again,
57:25
that's sort of fifty thousand foot view of what's actually happening around us, things
57:29
we need to care about, the whole nine yards. That's awesome. Okay,
57:34
what about your books, because I have metroplex monsters here and it's one
57:37
of my This is one of the most comprehensive books about especially the Texas cryptids.
57:43
Where can people find that? Jason again, Amazon, Barnes and Noble,
57:47
basically everywhere for Metroplex Monsters, it's all over, but I am working
57:52
on a new one. It's okay, it's going to be it's different,
57:58
but I'm trying to make it visually different, and it'll tie into Cirou and
58:01
start. So a lot of that's sort of on. That's channels on hiatus
58:06
for a little bit right now. So when we get it back up and
58:07
running. Yeah, once everything's back up and running, well we can come
58:10
back on and talk about that's the next book. It's going to be much
58:13
more visual. I wanted to look and read very differently from what's out there
58:17
right now, so it'll be a lot of fun. Okay, Well,
58:20
you take such a wonderful approach to all of these topics. I love doing
58:24
shows of you. The Giant of Candahar show is one of my favorite shows
58:28
I've ever done with you. That was such a great one. You really
58:30
bring the biblical aspect to all of this paranormal stuff. It's also connected.
58:36
It just it's amazing. I just love doing shows with you. Jason.
58:38
Please come back and hang out with me soon. Here's face out Radio.
58:43
Okay, and on my channel, The Crypton hunt Dress. Okay, and
58:45
everybody go subscribe to his channel. Jason McClean questions everything and support Jason.
58:52
You guys, Okay, thank you so much for being here tonight. Jason,
58:55
I'll see you. I'll see you soon, Okay, thank you,
59:00
Okay, bye. All right, y'all, that was amazing. Please don't
59:04
forget that. Right after this show, we have After Hours with a fantastic
59:07
program for us to night. Next week, I have Michael Roser coming on
59:14
Saturday night. He's a dark hour paranormal. He's one of my buddies that
59:16
was with me in Montauk, New York this past week and we had some
59:21
very interesting experiences together and he's awesome. So until then, you guys,
59:25
come see me over on my channel, The Crypton Huntress. I actually have
59:30
my friend Nigel coming on this Wednesday. He channels a Reptilian commander of a
59:37
Reptilian skyship spaceship the Overseas Up. They're actually the good, the good ones,
59:42
Okay, So that's going to be a really interesting show on Wednesday,
59:45
so y'all please come to me one pm Eastern and then I have another show
59:47
Wednesday or Thursday at eight pm. But until then I'm the crypton Huntress.
59:52
I'm Jessica Jones. I'm headed off the trails. You guys, y'all have
59:55
a great week and go out there locker yours. Watch out for goat Man.
1:00:00
Don't be don't be conjuring anything that don't need conjuring. I love you
1:00:04
guys. Have a good night. By