Latest / Vigilante Vibes Podcast / Ep. 226. Comic creator and writer, Ray Jamison
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- 0:11Comic fans, Marvel geeks, and all the nerds in between,
- 0:13welcome to another episode of the Vigilante Vibes podcast
- 0:15where we talk all things Marvel and other parts of nerd culture
- 0:19like comics and movies without the toxicity that's taking up
- 0:22way too much space in all the fandoms.
- 0:24I'm your host, Megan Nicole, and today I am so very pleased to
- 0:27introduce a very special guest. Today I'm joined by someone who
- 0:30has brought an incredible story to the world of comic books
- 0:34through his work on the Madcaps. Please welcome Ray Jamieson.
- 0:39Hello there, thank you very much for having me on.
- 0:41It's always a pleasure to get on and and meet people and talk
- 0:44about common topics. I'm happy you're here.
- 0:49We talked so much back and forth about doing this and we finally
- 0:52got to do it. So I'm very excited and very,
- 0:55very excited for people to hear about your comic book work.
- 0:59Thank you. So will you tell our listeners a
- 1:02little bit about you? OK well I am as as already
- 1:07introduced my name is Ray Jamison.
- 1:08I am a Canadian. I live up in Winnipeg, MB which
- 1:13is super super cold at times. I was I was born in the early
- 1:19mid 80s and I liked comics since before I can remember.
- 1:24Stretches past my limits. I have an older brother and
- 1:27usually older siblings. Younger siblings are usually for
- 1:32the first handful year sidekicks to interests of what the older
- 1:35sibling likes and I was no different.
- 1:37I loved what my brother loved. He watched a lot of he man, GI
- 1:41Joe, Transformers, Silverhawks, Brave Star and so forth and so
- 1:47so on. But throughout the 80s also was
- 1:50that lovely business move. I I laugh.
- 1:54I call it an unholy Trinity of cartoons, comic books and toy
- 1:59manufacturers and they combine forces and shared the same
- 2:03themes. You like this toy?
- 2:04Well it's a cartoon. You like this cartoon?
- 2:06Well it's also a comic book. And they did a really good job
- 2:09at coaxing money out of parents wallets.
- 2:14And that's the stuff that raised us all, really, because look at
- 2:18us all We're now nerds who are. We're adults doing the kids
- 2:22stuff. Huh.
- 2:23We're adults doing the kids stuff.
- 2:25Yeah, and we're all just like, you know, fainting over the new
- 2:28He Man trailer, like we're all still living it up.
- 2:31Yeah, that's that's very true. Throughout the 80s, by the time
- 2:37Batman 1989 was in theaters, I was only 5.
- 2:41I don't know if this was a good or bad thing, but my parents let
- 2:44me watch it with them in theatre, which is really cool.
- 2:46I very much remember that. And I had very, many very worn
- 2:52out action figures of Michael Keaton's Batman and Jack
- 2:55Nicholson's Joker. And when you really look back
- 2:58and think of the progress those actors did, it was it's, it's
- 3:01phenomenal to have such a a really cool film.
- 3:04But anyways, to keep the story as concise as possible, going
- 3:08through the 90s, I had the privilege of I liked these these
- 3:13comic characters. I had minimal access to many
- 3:18floppies of stuff at that time. But throughout the 90s, it
- 3:22wasn't just getting my hands, getting a little bit older and
- 3:24getting my hands on those comics.
- 3:27There was also the cartoons took themselves a bit more seriously
- 3:31instead of being a business where while kids like Superman,
- 3:35let's fit it in our formula, Superman and a Superman cartoon
- 3:39and Superman toys. It didn't.
- 3:41It didn't really matter the story as much.
- 3:44The 90s was very different in my opinion, especially getting into
- 3:48the the early, mid to the back mid of that era of that decade.
- 3:53You had Kevin Conroy and Mark Calamal in Batman the Animated
- 3:58Series. You have what is now renamed as
- 4:01X-Men 97. There's there's a lot of cool
- 4:04cartoons at that time. And I was, it was a privilege to
- 4:09watch us go through and and live through those moments.
- 4:14At the same time, there was some really different brave attempts.
- 4:20We look at them now and kind of, as they say nowadays, cringe at
- 4:23things like the 3D modeling of like Reboot and Beast Wars.
- 4:27But they were definitely springboards to other cool stuff
- 4:30later on. And then leaving that decade, I
- 4:35had a real love hate relationship with the 90s and
- 4:37comic books. And I set out all the power to
- 4:41what all the individuals of Image Comics did.
- 4:43But it also caused a lot of growing pains where everything
- 4:47was suddenly visual art and and how could we slick up the pages.
- 4:53But I felt from the mid to late 90's, the stories really hurt.
- 4:58It was a little lopsided. A comic book is a picture and
- 5:01dialogue and for a good chunk of time, everything was just the
- 5:05image, no pun intended. That's obviously why they called
- 5:08themselves that. They're they're artists.
- 5:11They they flex their strengths through those early comics.
- 5:15As I left the 90s, I felt myself not interested in what was the
- 5:20current stories at that time. I liked early 90s, anything in
- 5:25the 80s, late 70s and I would go to a local comic shop and I
- 5:28would dig through and try to find the old stuff that I could
- 5:30afford. Just open it up and read it.
- 5:33It's not like now where you can put in a subscription and get
- 5:37access to PD FS of all these copies.
- 5:39They were like I would read about.
- 5:40I get hints of stories and stuff in like Wizard magazine, but I
- 5:45really wanted to read this stuff.
- 5:46It was it was AI. Remember in 2004 getting Spider
- 5:51Man 40th anniversary CD case, every single issue on PDF.
- 5:56That was a big deal to me and I I read through all of them and I
- 5:59was just man, this is awesome. One of the coolest things about
- 6:04that franchise of or sorry the the franchise of comic book and
- 6:08its succession leaving cartoons and being successful in the film
- 6:13industry. Starting with in my opinion, the
- 6:15the real first successful one being Wesley Snipes and Blade in
- 6:1898. After that, the breakout star of
- 6:22Hugh Jackman alongside of many successful actors and X-Men of
- 6:262000. And then the real big, big
- 6:29springboard was Tony Maguire and Sam Remy's Spider Man 2002 of of
- 6:34course Kristen Dunst and William Dafoe and so forth.
- 6:38And it's, it's very, very interesting to see the humble
- 6:43beginnings. I wasn't even in the humble
- 6:45beginnings, but from my point of view as a kid going through the
- 6:4880s and 90's, the humble beginnings from my point of
- 6:51view, even though it was decades before that, we've come a long
- 6:54way and it's very interesting. We've gone through all those
- 6:58things that I've listed up to this point to now.
- 7:01Something like the Marvel Cinematic Universe and actually
- 7:05being able to not have a corporate pressure to have a
- 7:08beginning, middle and end of a story to fit in a movie.
- 7:12We could have Iron Man barely have a functional Mark 3 armor
- 7:18at the end of the first Iron Man by one of his last ones.
- 7:21It was nanotech where if they attempted such a movie 1020
- 7:27years prior, it would be nanotech within halfway through
- 7:30the 1st movie and trying to just wrap up the story and that's it.
- 7:33It's very interesting all of the lore and everything else.
- 7:36But me personally, when I when I was in my early 20s, I left, I
- 7:43left my family, my friends and I moved across country for work
- 7:47opportunity and I was always looking for reasons to hang out
- 7:53with my friends via webcam. So I offered, I've never played
- 7:57Dungeons and Dragons before. So I offered, OK, I'll be the
- 8:00dungeon master and we made these really cool stories.
- 8:04If it wasn't difficult enough to be a first time dungeon master,
- 8:06I did a homebrew campaign. So there's no modules to help me
- 8:10out with all my own lore, all of my own stories, all the
- 8:13characters, everything was on my own, on my own terms.
- 8:19I definitely, I didn't bit off more than I could chew, but I
- 8:23definitely chewed a lot. And by by the that was over 15
- 8:29years ago now. And it's, it's very interesting.
- 8:35All of the really cool stories we built.
- 8:37I wanted to express some of these stories.
- 8:40So I I took, I wanted to turn it into a comic book.
- 8:44It was something I really appreciated and I took out the
- 8:49characters that the players are playing As for one short story
- 8:53throughout all the campaigns we did.
- 8:54And I injected in my own characters and eventually it was
- 8:58supposed to be two issues. And then because of the content,
- 9:02I felt it made more sense to put it into 3.
- 9:05And that is pretty much the grounds of how the Madcap
- 9:09started. So this April we'll be having
- 9:13our third and final issue you can get.
- 9:15You can get all three issues through this upcoming
- 9:17Kickstarter campaign on April 16th, and that is the long and
- 9:21short of how this comic came to be.
- 9:25I, when I read the comic it, it's funny because I read it and
- 9:30I was like, there's no way any of this be based off this man's
- 9:33life because this is, there's so much happening, incredible stuff
- 9:38happening. So that is actually really
- 9:40fascinating that it does get pulled from somewhere.
- 9:43So I don't make comics. So I cannot imagine just sitting
- 9:47there and just making the a new world.
- 9:50New world rules everything building.
- 9:53So the Madcaps is something really, really incredible.
- 9:59For those who are interested in checking it out, just look under
- 10:03the show notes and you will find the Kickstarter that Ray is
- 10:06talking about. But the story does include four
- 10:09friends. They all are wildly different
- 10:12from each other, but they all have this beautiful chemistry
- 10:15that shows that there is history behind them. 1 is a devout
- 10:19farmer. 1 is a very kind charlatan, a social connector,
- 10:25and a very, very sharp intellectual.
- 10:28And they reunite in their hometown of Ivy Wood.
- 10:32And of course, when the band gets back together, crazy things
- 10:36happen. And that is precisely what
- 10:37happens. And I went read like a month
- 10:41ago. I read both of them.
- 10:42And at the end I was like, wait a minute, no, no, I want more.
- 10:46I need more. And it's so interesting because
- 10:49these characters, every one of them, could have their own comic
- 10:52series. That's that's an interesting
- 10:58point. Initially I just planned to have
- 11:01this as three issues. This is my first time on the
- 11:03creative side of a comic book. So I've never, I've never had it
- 11:07like I've never wanted this to be something that fizzled out.
- 11:14So if you look at a lot of like TV shows and networks cancel
- 11:17them after 1-2, maybe after one season, maybe after three.
- 11:21And there's unresolved story arcs and, and other dynamics
- 11:24like that. Fans are disappointed and stuff
- 11:27overseas in Europe, especially in like Britain, they're more
- 11:31likely to make a show, but plan to finish it after X amount of
- 11:35seasons. They they're, it's very, very
- 11:38different aspect for myself between the two examples I just
- 11:43gave. I didn't want to do something
- 11:44like I'm not arrogant enough to say this is going to be an
- 11:48ongoing monthly and I'm going to be riding this out for the next
- 11:5230 years of my life and have it fizzle out after six issues.
- 11:58I would hate for that to happen. So instead what I did was I, OK,
- 12:02I'm going to tell this little mini series, feel the waters.
- 12:07If there's an interest, the interest will dictate whether
- 12:11this is worthy of the comic industry.
- 12:13The only thing I could control, I couldn't control myself
- 12:16writing the story. It was up to me for what talent
- 12:19I brought on board and I brought talent I felt was worthy of the
- 12:23story. And between that, I my attempt
- 12:26is to make something worthy of the industry, but it's up to the
- 12:29fans in regards to popularity and quality and stuff.
- 12:34I do not want to measure any of that until the entire miniseries
- 12:39is out to the public. So once that miniseries is done,
- 12:44there's options on the table. I'm, I'm, I'm content if I walk
- 12:48away from this and that's it. I'm content if there's enough of
- 12:53a following and it's in my best interest to do so.
- 12:57I'm happy to continue stories with one or more of these
- 13:01characters. I do love where your head is at
- 13:05when you say you're just kind of putting it out there that it's,
- 13:09you know, it's a miniseries. And there I feel like there are
- 13:12a lot of comic book creators who have this huge, their eyes are
- 13:16bigger than their stomach and they think they're going to
- 13:18continue a same story forever. And it's like, you know, major
- 13:24publishers can't do that. So I do like that you're looking
- 13:27at it in a more realist point of view.
- 13:30But I will say, if you ever feel the need to do a one shot for
- 13:34each character, like where Sarlat came from or Dunnen came
- 13:39from, I would be very pleased about that.
- 13:43Well, I I take that as a as a big compliment.
- 13:45Something that was very difficult for this miniseries is
- 13:49being able to establish something about characters to to
- 13:56give readers a reason to relate or be interested in them.
- 14:00One compliment I had is page one of the first issue somebody
- 14:04pointed out, and I didn't realize this, but I in one form
- 14:07or another, I introduce three of the four characters right away
- 14:12and one of them is narrating and then two of them on the back of
- 14:16a wagon coming back to Ivy Wood and some feedback.
- 14:22I've had some people read the script to all three and I
- 14:25consistently have the same thing where each one of them thought
- 14:29that Chazgo was not on the level and was not to be trusted.
- 14:34And I understood why. Because I wanted him to feel.
- 14:37I wanted him to be a very reserved character.
- 14:39If you knew nothing about him. If you.
- 14:42If you knew because he is this blue skinned elf that would be
- 14:46killed on site if people knew what he was, he hides his
- 14:48appearance. If you knew only the disguise,
- 14:52no big deal. But if you know that he's got
- 14:55something else going on and there's not much delve deep into
- 14:58it, it doesn't feel right. So in order to give him a bit
- 15:01more, for lack of better wording, humanity, I had him
- 15:05narrate the first issue through a letter he's writing to an
- 15:09individual known as Annette, and people had kind of a significant
- 15:15change of perspective on the character.
- 15:18That's so interesting. I read him, He was one of my
- 15:20favorite characters because I felt like there was so much
- 15:24about him I didn't know. And I feel like we're only the
- 15:27tip of the iceberg. Like he can change forms.
- 15:30He has all these different powers.
- 15:32His blue form is really, really cool.
- 15:35Like, I love that. And I'm so surprised to hear
- 15:39that people thought he was like a secret villain or something.
- 15:42Well, the thing thing about Chazgo, so the blue skin, this
- 15:46happens in real life with humans.
- 15:48If humans ingest enough silver, it actually tattoos their skin
- 15:52blue. That's a real thing.
- 15:54You could look it up. One guy was interviewed on
- 15:56Oprah. There's it.
- 15:58It's this. The guy looks fake.
- 15:59He looks like Papa Smurf. Essentially.
- 16:01When you look at it, it looks like he's getting ready to be on
- 16:04set for ATV show or a movie or something.
- 16:07It's quite jarring. Chazgo has a similar dynamic.
- 16:11His his group of elves that he's a part of, they're known as
- 16:15Argos. They live in a mountain range
- 16:17that's riddled with silver deposits.
- 16:19So this generational exposure to that environment has essentially
- 16:25given them that same effect. But of course, because it is
- 16:28fantasy, all that silver in his system makes him highly
- 16:33resistant to magic, which is a really cool byproduct of of his
- 16:37thing. His people, he finds, are very
- 16:41he considers them dysfunctional. He's kind of embarrassed of who
- 16:44he is. So basically his people worship
- 16:50the mountain and they think the mountain protects them.
- 16:53They think the mountain as some type of DoD is protecting them
- 16:56from magic but in reality it's the silver.
- 16:58In their system they would be classed as what one would call a
- 17:02xenophobic. They want nothing to do with
- 17:05outsiders. So like mages, merchants and any
- 17:09like mercenaries they all stay clear that mountain range.
- 17:12If Chazgo was seen he'd be killed on site.
- 17:14Which is kind of ironic because he's worked his way up as a
- 17:17representative of a noble. So basically when he left that
- 17:24mountain range, where do I go? Everybody's going to kill me or
- 17:28I stay with these people that I'm embarrassed of.
- 17:30What do I do here? And this being, which has not a
- 17:34lot of details have been given, but she gave him this this his
- 17:38necklace piece. It's a Rook.
- 17:39He fashioned it to a necklace. And through that, she's been
- 17:43able to bypass his resistances on magic and he's able to cast
- 17:47some spells which you see through the book from his three
- 17:50eyed albino Raven pet name to MX and being able to like blast
- 17:56light or or hide his appearance, which is a very crucial one for
- 17:58him in regards to survival. The three other individuals are
- 18:04the only ones that know what he's actually is.
- 18:06So he's very, very reserved and it's all strictly survival
- 18:12instincts for him doing that, huh?
- 18:17She said a lot. He's still my favorite.
- 18:20I still like him. And I did just look up the
- 18:23humans with the blue skin and Oh my gosh, I had no idea.
- 18:28Yeah. It it looks fake, it looks fake.
- 18:30It does, but it's like it's like, oh, it's just crazy.
- 18:34If you guys have not, if you didn't know, now you do know,
- 18:38but I love. YouTube, Oprah.
- 18:41Just type in Oprah interview blue skin.
- 18:43I'm sure it'll come up. I don't know if I'm ready for
- 18:47that yet, but what I love so much about these characters is
- 18:51like they're also so different. Like Charles Go, He, like you
- 18:55said, he's very reserved. He kind of keeps to himself and
- 18:59these other people on his team, they're the only ones that know
- 19:03what he is. And you can see that he does not
- 19:06trust easily. He does not open himself easily
- 19:08but he does to them and their chemistry with each other is
- 19:12just so off the charts. I think it showed the best when
- 19:17they in the second issue when they said family needs help, I
- 19:22think that's when it was like. OK.
- 19:24That they are a family. That's what it felt like to me.
- 19:27Yeah, yeah. Family in danger.
- 19:29When you were saying about these characters being very different,
- 19:33they have a common theme. It's just expressed very
- 19:36differently. And the theme is who am I and
- 19:38how do I fit in the world, which is not a reinvention of
- 19:41anything. And I know that's pretty much
- 19:44done with every character ever written in history, but Chazgo,
- 19:47since we were just talking about Chaz, if you look at Chazgo, his
- 19:51thing with all four of them, I tried to make it feel like every
- 19:57human being can somehow relate universally.
- 20:00So Chazgo is a very, very straightforward visual 1.
- 20:05He hides who he really is and I think every human in some form
- 20:09of another, especially the first impressions.
- 20:12They don't wear their identity on their sleeve.
- 20:14If I said I shoot guns and and knit scarves, I don't do any of
- 20:18those things. But if I did, some people be
- 20:20taken ajar by that. And those are obviously nothing.
- 20:23And compared to something like Chazgo, who his very appearance
- 20:27scares people. And I think many people can
- 20:31really relate to hiding parts themselves depending who they're
- 20:34around. If you look at Madracas, he's
- 20:38very different. He is visually he, he, he
- 20:41doesn't hide who he is. He wears, he doesn't know too
- 20:44much about his people and some people.
- 20:47I, I, I know there's many people that I wish I knew more about my
- 20:51parent or my grandparents or they came from this country.
- 20:54Maybe I should know more about those people might understand a
- 20:57little bit about myself and how I was raised, etcetera,
- 21:00etcetera. He grabs on Madracas, grabs on
- 21:04to any type of even minor reflection of his culture, of
- 21:09the people that he doesn't know anything about, is raised by
- 21:11humans and hatched as an egg and raised accordingly.
- 21:15So that armor ceremonial. He's not a skilled fighter, but
- 21:18looking at him you'd think differently.
- 21:20Wielding a blade, having that armor on.
- 21:21You think he's a mercenary or soldier or something, but in
- 21:24reality, despite him being over 6 1/2 feet tall, over £350 of
- 21:30weight, he does the opposite where Chazgo downplays who he
- 21:35is. Madracas.
- 21:37It's all like leave me alone, I'll look intimidating so people
- 21:41will leave me alone. Sarlacc the the devout farmer.
- 21:47He is a full blooded farmer. His people, unlike your average
- 21:50dwarf, his group of dwarves. They left them out in range and
- 21:53decided to start farming fertile land.
- 21:56They decided to start in the middle of a swamp, which is
- 21:59something a stubborn dwarf would do, and over generations have
- 22:04been been able from the inside out start terraforming the
- 22:07swampland. Because it's fantasy, swamps
- 22:11tend to have odd creatures in it.
- 22:14So culturally speaking, Sarlacc is good at tracking down and
- 22:19pacifying things that go bump in the night.
- 22:22And on the on the flip side, he's he's very devout to this
- 22:26deity only known as the Divine, and he felt compelled to move
- 22:31into Ivy Wood and help those less fortunate than himself be a
- 22:35beacon of light in a town, if you will.
- 22:39Because of this dynamic and his level of devotion, he has some
- 22:43gifts, some blessings, which allow him to repel the undead.
- 22:47And you see him heal himself a couple times.
- 22:49And there's a couple more surprises surprises on the way
- 22:54coming soon. One of the most interesting
- 22:58things about Sarlacc compared to the other two, he chose to go to
- 23:02a place to be different and he's more dedicated to what he can do
- 23:10as opposed to what he's going to get out of.
- 23:12So something like Chaz was terrified to show who he is.
- 23:16Someone like Madrakis overplays being intimidating to be left
- 23:21alone where Sarlac kind of just this is who I am and I'm I'm
- 23:26going to take some lumps from this in a city that's
- 23:28predominantly human. I think lots of people can
- 23:34either know somebody like that or have done that.
- 23:36You know what, this is the better thing to do.
- 23:38We're probably going to take some lumps on the way, but long
- 23:40term it's going to be worth it. Those kind of people you usually
- 23:43want around you. If you know anybody like that,
- 23:45I'm glad that I know that person.
- 23:47It's a very, very powerful dynamic if you know a friend
- 23:52like that. And then the last one is the the
- 23:55half dwarf, half gnome named Dunanini.
- 23:57A little bit shorter than your average dwarf, but can't grow a
- 24:00beard. He draws from both bloodlines,
- 24:03but he has a hard time fitting in with either culture.
- 24:07And it's speculated that between his two bloodlines, much like
- 24:18his mother who has a magical influence on nature, he has a
- 24:23similar type of influence, but on metals and crystalline
- 24:25structures. So that telescope that pops over
- 24:28his shoulder, that can blast raw arcana out of it, kind of like a
- 24:31shotgun if you will, or which are synced to his goggles, he's
- 24:36gifted some way magically. But it's not really.
- 24:41He does not really understand it.
- 24:43He doesn't know he has experienced smithing, which goes
- 24:47hand in hand with his magical abilities that he's still trying
- 24:51to figure out. And it it's pretty neat watching
- 24:54somebody under 4 feet in height walk up to a tree and reduce it
- 24:57to splinters. I just find that enjoyable.
- 25:01But I, I know many people, you know, my, my one parent is this,
- 25:04my one parent is that. I feel torn in two ways and at
- 25:07the same time maybe pushed in both ways as well.
- 25:10And because of that very dynamic with him, he bonds very, very,
- 25:17just as easily, I should say, with any friend as he would with
- 25:20a family member. So I'm sure you know that one
- 25:24friend that it's Christmas, I'm going to my buddy's house as
- 25:27opposed to going and visiting a parent or something.
- 25:29And that's, in a way, kind of like him.
- 25:33He's very much, well, he feels very much like family is what
- 25:37you make of it. Doesn't have to be blood or
- 25:39anything. But what I really loved about
- 25:42his character was that he, not only was he the comedic relief,
- 25:45he was the laugh throughout the strictness in the air.
- 25:50He was just there. He was there to have a good
- 25:54time. He was enjoying himself and when
- 25:58the time came for him to show his vulnerability, show how he
- 26:01cared about the other teammates, he did just that and it showed
- 26:05us a different side of him. But then he went right back to
- 26:08just having fun, and I thought that was very, very fun because
- 26:13it played very well off the other dynamics.
- 26:17Yeah, something that was very important amongst these 4
- 26:20characters that I'm being told I did a half decent job out is not
- 26:28just how they get along, not just how they synergize and not
- 26:33just how they rub each other the wrong way, but just how they
- 26:36have a good amount of spacing. It's not like 1 character heavy
- 26:43in the story, which I tried very hard not to avoid.
- 26:47I didn't want it to be like it. It's the one person show because
- 26:51it's not supposed to be. And also another thing is they
- 26:55all bring something valuable to the story.
- 27:00If if you look back and omit 1 character and see their
- 27:03influence, the story changes. It's very very different.
- 27:06So I wanted to make them all feel like they were very
- 27:08important. I think you did that very well.
- 27:12It very much felt equal parts of each person, and it felt like
- 27:16every person had their own place to shine without watering down
- 27:20the other characters, which I find happens more often than not
- 27:23when it's a ensemble cast of a comic book.
- 27:29Yeah, it was because this story I played out in a game the
- 27:36better part of 15 years back, the majority of the story melted
- 27:41together. I already knew where it was
- 27:42going. The big difference was the new
- 27:44characters and how they played off not just their environment,
- 27:48but each other, but in turn those characters, they're based
- 27:52off of people I know when other cultural or pop culture rather
- 27:56references. So when I wrote out this
- 28:01scripts, I actually used rule 20, an online DND platform game
- 28:06or a platform rather. And I actually made a board and
- 28:09made pieces and moved them out round as I was writing out the
- 28:13script, which I found super, super helpful.
- 28:16But it was, I found very easy to write this story.
- 28:20And it's my first time. So I, I've nothing to gauge that
- 28:25by. I've, I've heard of people
- 28:27getting like heavy writer's block and being on contract with
- 28:31bigger company. I got to turn out this story so
- 28:33I could understand that being like hard on a, on a person.
- 28:37But for me, this was, this was just fun.
- 28:39It was a passion project. I wanted to express the story.
- 28:42I, I'm not being, I'm not being driven by a sponsorship or
- 28:47anything. I just want to make a cool story
- 28:49and and here it is. And you did just that.
- 28:52I, I would recommend this to anyone because it did have so
- 28:57many different layers to it and so many layers you want to peel
- 29:01back and know even more of which like I really do want to know
- 29:06more of. So you're you're going to have
- 29:08to like. Continue.
- 29:10To worry. No pressure.
- 29:12No pressure, it's OK, do what you want.
- 29:15But like I would like to know more.
- 29:19Well, I'll tell you what, if this, if this is the only thing
- 29:22that becomes of this, this story, these three issues, if
- 29:27I've made-up my mind and I'm never doing any more with it, I
- 29:29will have a personal conversation with you and I'll
- 29:31tell you everything. How about that?
- 29:33OK, that that'll work. In my mind, in my mind, even
- 29:38though it's not entirely drawn out on scripts, I know the
- 29:45majority of where they're they go right up to their
- 29:48metaphorical deathbed. Each character, well,
- 29:52everybody's got to die. I'm not.
- 29:53I know in my head I thought that meant in the third issue and I
- 29:58was like, calm down, Ray, calm down.
- 30:01Don't do that, rocks. Fall.
- 30:04Everybody dies, as the meme says.
- 30:08It's just crazy to me because so many people, so many humans,
- 30:12even blue skinned humans have trouble keeping up with their
- 30:15own lives and you're keeping up with four of them and yours and
- 30:20whatever else ideas you have for another story.
- 30:23Do you have any ideas for another story or have you
- 30:26ventured in that at all? Or is this you're just here
- 30:30right now? So I have other pots to stir,
- 30:35but the burners, they're on or off.
- 30:37So I'm focused on this one. This isn't my day job, so for
- 30:42me, I, it you either go quality or quantity.
- 30:47I, it's not my capacity to go quantity even if I wanted to.
- 30:51So I just want these three issues to be a cool thing.
- 30:54And then when the dust settles, I'm going to take a survey of
- 30:58the land and then maybe bust out a couple of those other pots and
- 31:01see what happens. Also, the possibilities really
- 31:04are endless. That's very exciting.
- 31:06Yeah, I've also been approached. I can't say who, but I've been
- 31:09approached by two individuals to write a story for them.
- 31:12So they obviously are liking what I'm doing.
- 31:14So I'm flattered. There's much to consider, we'll
- 31:18put it that way. I'm.
- 31:20Very excited to see where that goes.
- 31:21Another thing about your comics that I feel like we haven't
- 31:25touched on is the artwork. Oh, thank you.
- 31:28It is fantastic. It is heavily detailed.
- 31:31There's such beautiful vibrancy on each and every page and just
- 31:35with the characters expressions and mannerisms and I guess how
- 31:40they hold themselves. There's no way you don't
- 31:42understand the tone of the story, which I really appreciate
- 31:46as the reader because it's how your your characters are telling
- 31:49the story for you. You know, the story can go on,
- 31:52or you can read it in the character's body language, and I
- 31:55think that is fantastic. Right on.
- 31:57Well shout out to my interior artist for issue 3 who also did
- 32:01issue 2, Victor Medina. To quote him.
- 32:05He felt the script I wrote in describing the panels.
- 32:09He felt it was very easy to translate to paper, and he felt
- 32:14that the way I described it, I gave enough creative
- 32:18constraints. I've said this on some other
- 32:19podcasts. If someone tells you to think
- 32:22about a painting of the picture, most people they're going to
- 32:26take, it's going to take a little bit, a minute, maybe 30
- 32:29seconds, or maybe a bit more than a minute.
- 32:32But if that same person is approached and said, imagine a
- 32:35painting of a picture with a bullfrog riding a bicycle and
- 32:38holding a glass of lemonade, right away, all the constraints
- 32:42immediately snap a picture into your mind.
- 32:45And Victor liked how I gave creative constraints, but not so
- 32:49much where I choked out his flair.
- 32:52And that's something I try really hard to do because he's
- 32:54the artist. It it's not my flair, but I need
- 32:57to see XI, need to see X, and because later on in panels like
- 33:02in in issue 2, one of the things I wrote is after Chazgo using MX
- 33:08to survey where they're going to infiltrate, they catch that two
- 33:13bandits are leaving on cart and one of the notes I set into that
- 33:17is one of the bandits has to be large.
- 33:18The baggy robe because Madracas is going to be wearing it later.
- 33:22What the bandit looked like, I didn't care.
- 33:25I didn't care if he had hair, I didn't care if he had a scar on
- 33:27his face. He had to.
- 33:29You, when you look at him, you got to think Bandit, but that
- 33:31robe has to be present. So little things like that.
- 33:36That it's funny you bring that part up because when I read it
- 33:38and he said, he said, I'm going to wear his, you transform into
- 33:42him. I was like, you can't fit into
- 33:44that. And then I looked back.
- 33:45I was like, no, wait, no, he's a big in.
- 33:47You probably can. I was like, that was that stood
- 33:50out to me because that was a really good catch right there.
- 33:53Yeah, yeah. And it it's very important on my
- 33:56end, exactly what I want to see and what I need to see is not
- 34:04necessarily what I need to see is not the same as make sure all
- 34:09these details happen. Because sometimes make sure all
- 34:11these details happen that could be overly constricting on on
- 34:15somebody trying to express these images.
- 34:17The more sentences you throw in, the more they have to process
- 34:20and algorithmically make sure this picture works out.
- 34:23But if I just that one scene, that one piece of imagery of
- 34:27those two bandits on cart, all I said was 2 bandits on cart, one
- 34:31has to wear that robe later that that's that's it.
- 34:34So everything else was from his head.
- 34:37And it was very, very important for me that I make the talent
- 34:44working for me. I make their lives as easy as
- 34:46possible because the less burdensome I am, the better I'm
- 34:51going to get out of them. If only more people realize that
- 34:57life lesson in this industry, I think we would have better
- 35:01content and we would have happier creators.
- 35:07But that's that's the long and short of working with with
- 35:11talent. The only other piece of advice
- 35:14I've given this on other podcasts is this is my first
- 35:17time writing and I found it was very beneficial that I wrote my
- 35:22first draft. I completed it before I showed
- 35:26it to anybody. To quote my late father, if you
- 35:29are going to put new shingles on your roof and you tell 40
- 35:32people, suddenly everybody, those 40 people all think
- 35:36they're a roofing expert and they're they're going to don't
- 35:39use those shingles, use these, put them up this time of the
- 35:42year, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
- 35:44But if you're writing a story, let's say you're writing a novel
- 35:48and you write 1 chapter and you show it to somebody, hey, that's
- 35:50really cool, have you considered this?
- 35:53And their consideration is really awesome, but it might
- 35:55veer completely off course to where you're trying to get the
- 35:58story to go for. For me, I finished everything,
- 36:03showed them when any input I got back.
- 36:06By that point, they saw where I was going.
- 36:09So their suggestions were with the intention of contributing to
- 36:13that end game, which was very, very helpful on my end.
- 36:19Well, your father gave very great advice, so that's
- 36:23fantastic. So thank you so much for coming
- 36:28in with me. I've had the best time and you
- 36:31gave such great insight and I really loved the Madcaps, so
- 36:36appreciate it. I hope more people see it
- 36:39because the more people need to see it's, you know, it's one of
- 36:42those that you just kind of sticks with you a little.
- 36:45Right on. Yeah.
- 36:46Well, anybody listening right now, all three issues to this
- 36:49miniseries, April 16th, you can find it.
- 36:52Shout out to my publisher Fillable Publishing, Philip
- 36:54Rossert. They have definitely put my put
- 37:00my story in a good place. So everything from there comes
- 37:03out of the state sees in New York.
- 37:04So shipping is relatively low and overall we're going to have
- 37:10a lot of cool covers to show off some glow in the dark.
- 37:13One's glow in the dark of Chazgo.
- 37:14If you look up on the Kickstarter right now and Scroll
- 37:17down the one of Chazgo, everything white on that cover
- 37:19is going to be glow in the dark. It's one of Dunanini walking
- 37:22away from a building on fire, and it's going to be lava foil,
- 37:26which is really, really neat. I have six other covers to show
- 37:30and I'm not allowed to show them yet.
- 37:31And because I've been showing these issues everyone every
- 37:38April, I haven't been able to talk about the entire story for
- 37:42all this time. It's been torture.
- 37:43But just like not showing these covers, it's a similar thing.
- 37:46But we're getting close. We've got a month to go.
- 37:49We're going to hit the ground running.
- 37:51If you want to follow me on Facebook, you can find me as DM
- 37:54Ray DM is short for dungeon master.
- 37:56You can also find the madcaps Facebook page.
- 37:59We're almost at 500 followers and also almost just as
- 38:03important on Instagram you can find me as Raymond the DM DM Ray
- 38:06was taken. But if you follow any of those,
- 38:10I'm going to be giving updates like weekly leading up and very
- 38:15important if you can't follow anything and if you can't
- 38:18support this financially, if you just click on the follow me link
- 38:24that lice black button on the pre launch page, you'll be
- 38:27helping me out algorithmically so others have a higher chance
- 38:32of getting a view on this project.
- 38:34I'm very excited and there's no there's no pressure on my end as
- 38:41a creator. This is not you're not going to
- 38:44have if you read this story, there's not 70 years worth of
- 38:47lore that you have to have memorized to get every
- 38:49reference. It's a beginning, middle, end.
- 38:51The whole thing takes place in one night.
- 38:54If you have friends that you don't get to see as much as you
- 38:56used to be, it for responsibilities like your job,
- 39:01children, your studies. For me, I moved across country,
- 39:07but if you miss your friends to a point where if you get to see
- 39:10them for 5 minutes in the parking lot as they're passing
- 39:13through the city and your very essence feels recharged, man, I
- 39:16really needed that. I guarantee you, you will
- 39:20appreciate the story. It's told in the theme of
- 39:22fantasy through the medium of a comic book.
- 39:25I don't know where the story is going to go afterwards, but this
- 39:29whole thing takes place in one night.
- 39:31The first issue, the sun's just going down.
- 39:33The last pages of the last issue, the sun's just coming up
- 39:36and you will feel trapped in the night with them.
- 39:40This final issue is leading up to there, there is a revelation
- 39:45that there's a necromancer putting a curse on their
- 39:48hometown, which happens right at sunrise.
- 39:50So these four, they're not the most suited for the job, but
- 39:54they are the closest to get this job done.
- 39:56They're trying to hunt down this necromancer.
- 39:58Lots of lots of action this last issue and lots of good story to
- 40:02justify it leading up to that point.
- 40:04So hit that notification and I promise you it's going to be a
- 40:09good time. Yes, I can vouch for the series
- 40:13and it's probably one of my favorite things I've read this
- 40:15year. And if you've been following me
- 40:17for a while, you know, I read a whole lot of stuff, so that is
- 40:21saying something. So thank you so much for being
- 40:24on the podcast. It was a pleasure.
- 40:27If you are interested in checking out the Kickstarter or
- 40:30where you can follow Ray, just look under the episode at the
- 40:33show notes and you will see every single link to make it
- 40:36super, super easy for you guys. So thank you for listening to
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- 40:46Thanks for listening. I hope you enjoyed it.
- 40:48Have a marvelous night.