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- 0:00Welcome to reformed thinking. So imagine walking out of your
- 0:04front door tomorrow morning and your entire town is in a state
- 0:08of, well, absolute unprecedented chaos.
- 0:11Total upheaval. Right.
- 0:12People are weeping openly right there in the streets.
- 0:15Your normal routine, I mean, the commute to work, the school drop
- 0:18off, the grocery shopping, it is all completely disrupted.
- 0:22You walk down to the town square and you see like a teenager just
- 0:26fainting on the grass and you hear your neighbor cry, dying
- 0:30out in actual physical agony, like they are in intense pain
- 0:34but nobody is even touching them.
- 0:36Which would be terrifying to witness.
- 0:38It really would. And everywhere you look, people
- 0:39are just arguing furiously about what is happening.
- 0:42So your first instinctual thought would probably be that
- 0:45you were looking at some terrifying wave of mass
- 0:48hysteria, right? Or maybe some kind of
- 0:51psychological contagion? Yeah, that would be the logical
- 0:53assumption for most of us. But what if someone turned to
- 0:56you right then and said no, this is a genuine movement from God?
- 1:01How would you judge that? Like what diagnostic criteria
- 1:05would you use to figure out if you were looking at a miraculous
- 1:07spiritual awakening or just a really dangerous social
- 1:11meltdown? I mean, that is a staggering
- 1:13thought experiment because when you frame it that way, it forces
- 1:16a person to look at their own internal biases.
- 1:19Absolutely. We have all these built in
- 1:21assumptions about how the world works and and more specifically,
- 1:24how God operates. And that is what we are digging
- 1:27into today for this deep dive because usually when we talk
- 1:30about diagnosing a situation, we expect precision.
- 1:33Right. We want clear answers, yeah.
- 1:35Yeah, if you break your arm, you go to the hospital, they take an
- 1:37X-ray and there is this jagged white line right on the film.
- 1:41The doctor points to it and says broken.
- 1:43It is binary clean. Very clean.
- 1:46We find immense comfort in things that can be seen and
- 1:48neatly categorized like that. But when you step into the world
- 1:51of human emotions, psychology and spiritual movements, that
- 1:55X-ray machine just shatters. It really does.
- 1:59You are looking at a landscape that is murky, confusing and
- 2:03highly controversial. It is the absolute definition of
- 2:06diagnostic Muddy Waters. Yeah, because you cannot put a
- 2:10spiritual awakening under a microscope, right?
- 2:13Or you cannot draw blood to test for conviction of sin.
- 2:16So to figure out how to evaluate this, we are looking at a
- 2:19classic historical analysis. Today we are turning to a man
- 2:23who lived right in the middle of one of these chaotic moments,
- 2:27Jonathan Edwards. A fascinating figure.
- 2:29He really is. We are going to look closely at
- 2:32his treatise on the distinguishing marks of a work
- 2:35of the Spirit of pride, but we are focusing on a very specific
- 2:38angle of his argument. The negative signs.
- 2:40Yes, the negative signs. Our mission for this deep dive
- 2:43is to uncover what criteria we should not use to dismiss a
- 2:46spiritual movement. Like what are the things that
- 2:48look alarming but actually do not disqualify A revival from
- 2:51being genuine? Well, context is everything when
- 2:54dealing with a historical document like this one.
- 2:57Edwards is writing in the 18th century, right in the epicenter
- 3:00of a massive historical event we now call the First Great
- 3:03Awakening. And this was not, you know, a
- 3:05minor ripple in a few local churches.
- 3:08Entire towns in New England were altering their behavior
- 3:11practically overnight. It was a massive societal shift.
- 3:14It was Taverns were emptying out.
- 3:17People were abandoning their normal secular entertainments.
- 3:20But with that massive shift came severe, harsh criticism.
- 3:25Skeptics, rationalists, even other established ministers.
- 3:29Yeah, they were looking at the sheer noise and the physical
- 3:31chaos of it all and concluding that it could not possibly be of
- 3:34God. They argued that God is a God of
- 3:37order and what they saw in the streets of Northampton and
- 3:39Boston was, well, disorder. So Edward steps in to defend the
- 3:44revival, but he doesn't just write a quick reactionary
- 3:47defense. He acts as a theologian and a
- 3:49philosopher trying to establish a proper diagnostic framework
- 3:53for the church. And his core thesis there is
- 3:55incredibly confronting. It really is, he argues, that
- 3:58human assumptions about how God should act or what polite,
- 4:01acceptable religion should look like are often entirely
- 4:04unbiblical. He takes aim right at our
- 4:06cultural comfort zones. He systematically dismantles the
- 4:10arguments of his critics by showing that their criteria for
- 4:14rejecting the revival are based on tradition and human
- 4:17preference, not on the actual text of Scripture.
- 4:21So let's unpack his first major point.
- 4:23He addresses the shock of the new The critics of his day were
- 4:27arguing that this movement must be false because it was being
- 4:30carried on in a way that was very unusual and extraordinary.
- 4:34They've never seen anything like it, so they just assumed it was
- 4:36dangerous. Edwards counters this by
- 4:39pointing out the severe limitations of our own
- 4:41historical memory. He argues that just because a
- 4:44specific congregation or a specific generation is used to a
- 4:48certain way of operating, that habit does not become the
- 4:51universal rule by which we judge God.
- 4:54He points out that God has always brought to pass new
- 4:56things, strange works that surprise both men and angels,
- 5:01the standard that we have to use as the rule of Scripture, not
- 5:04our local traditions or our comfortable routine.
- 5:06He actually takes a swing at human psychology here, doesn't
- 5:09he? He does, yeah.
- 5:10He notes that there is a great aptness in persons to doubt
- 5:13things that are strange. He specifically singles out
- 5:16older generations, suggesting that elderly persons might think
- 5:19that the only acceptable way for God to work is the way they have
- 5:22seen in their own day or the days of their fathers.
- 5:25Which is a very natural human defense mechanism.
- 5:28We associate the familiar with the safe and the precedented
- 5:31with danger. Right.
- 5:33If it is new, IT is scary. Precisely if something has never
- 5:36happened in our lifetime, our instinct is to view it with
- 5:39suspicion. But Edwards argues that if you
- 5:42use unusualness as a standard to reject a spiritual work, you
- 5:46would have been forced to reject the apostles in the 1st century.
- 5:49I want to pause on that because that is a massive claim.
- 5:52Are you saying that the early church would have failed the
- 5:54diagnostic test of these 18th century critics?
- 5:58Without a doubt, Edwards notes that the work of the Spirit in
- 6:01the apostles days was carried on in a manner that was altogether
- 6:04new to the religious establishment of that time.
- 6:06It was completely unprecedented. Yeah, think about the sudden
- 6:09changes, the vast extent of the work, the mighty effects on the
- 6:13masses the religious leaders in Jerusalem were completely
- 6:18blindsided by. It they didn't know what to do.
- 6:20They knew not what to make of it, and because it broke their
- 6:23theological and procedural paradigm, they assumed the
- 6:26apostles were out of their minds.
- 6:28We see that play out literally in the book of Acts when the
- 6:31Holy Spirit falls at Pentecost. The crowd hears them speaking in
- 6:35different languages, and the immediate accusation is they're
- 6:39drunk on new wine, right? They try to find a natural,
- 6:43familiar explanation. Drunkenness for a supernatural,
- 6:46unprecedented event. And Edwards pushes the argument
- 6:50even further into the prophetic text.
- 6:52He says we should actually expect things we have never seen
- 6:54before. How interesting.
- 6:55He brings up the prophecies of Scripture, specifically
- 6:57referencing Isaiah 66. The verse asks, Who hath heard
- 7:02such a thing? Shall the earth be made to bring
- 7:04forth in one day? Shall a nation be born at once?
- 7:07So he is saying sudden massive change is actually biblical.
- 7:11That is his point. As we move through redemptive
- 7:13history, the manner of God's work will occasionally be very
- 7:17extraordinary. We have not to limit God where
- 7:20He has not limited Himself in His Word.
- 7:22The logic there seems really sound.
- 7:25If the rules of Scripture do not explicitly forbid a certain
- 7:28method or scope of operation, we have no grounds to dismiss it
- 7:32just because it feels overwhelmingly new to us.
- 7:35He states that if the apparent change is very sudden, carried
- 7:38on with unusual swiftness, affecting huge numbers of
- 7:41people, including very young people, none of those unusual
- 7:44circumstances infringe upon the actual scriptural marks of a
- 7:48work of the Spirit. He even argues that a high
- 7:50degree of influence is a positive sign, not a -1.
- 7:54How so? Well, if the nature of the work
- 7:56aligns with the rule of scripture, then having a massive
- 7:59extraordinary degree of it just makes the conformity to the rule
- 8:03that much more evident. Meaning, if a small degree of
- 8:05sorrow for sin is a good thing, an extraordinary, overwhelming
- 8:09conviction of the dreadful nature of sin should not be
- 8:11viewed as a negative. It is just more of a good thing.
- 8:14That is his premise, but that extraordinary conviction leads
- 8:18directly into his next point, which is where things get
- 8:22intensely physical and where the skeptics usually have a field
- 8:25day. Right.
- 8:26He states that a work is not to be judged by any effects on the
- 8:30bodies of men. We were talking about tears,
- 8:33trembling groans, loud outcries, agonies of body or the feeling
- 8:37of bodily strength. This was the biggest stumbling
- 8:39block for observers of the Great Awakening.
- 8:41People were literally collapsing in the pews.
- 8:44They were crying out in absolute agony during the sermons.
- 8:48To a stoic, orderly culture, this looked like pure madness.
- 8:52But Edwards approaches this with a highly accurate understanding
- 8:55of human biology and psychology. He appeals to what he calls the
- 8:58laws of the union between soul and body.
- 9:00He starts by laying a biblical foundation, doesn't he?
- 9:03He does. He notes that the Scripture
- 9:04nowhere gives us a rule that either expressly or indirectly
- 9:07excludes such effects on the body.
- 9:10There is no verse that says if people faint it is not of God.
- 9:13But let me play devil's advocate here for a second.
- 9:16I know a lot of people listening are probably thinking about
- 9:18order. Like, I go to a traditional
- 9:20church. I like things decent and in
- 9:22order. We have a liturgy.
- 9:24We have a bulletin. If someone started screaming in
- 9:27the Pew next to me or collapsed on the floor, I would call an
- 9:30usher or a paramedic. How does Edwards square people
- 9:34literally passing out in the aisles with the biblical command
- 9:38for orderly worship? Are we supposed to just let
- 9:41chaos reign? That is the exact tension his
- 9:44critics raised. But Edwards asked them to look
- 9:46at the nature of humanity. The mind and the body are not
- 9:49isolated systems. They are intimately connected,
- 9:52right? If the mind experiences a severe
- 9:54shock, the physical frame reacts involuntarily.
- 9:58He uses a very practical non religious example to prove this
- 10:02point. The fear of war.
- 10:04I want to read how he frames this because it is brilliant, he
- 10:06says. When people's hearts are full of
- 10:07fear in a time of war, they are ready to tremble at the shaking
- 10:11of a leaf. They expect the enemy every
- 10:13minute, thinking now I shall be slain.
- 10:15And that is just a temporal threat, yeah.
- 10:20Edwards then scales that concept up to the eternal reality.
- 10:24He asked the reader to suppose a person saw himself hanging over
- 10:27a great pit full of fierce and glowing flames by a thread that
- 10:31he knew to be very weak. That is a terrifying mental
- 10:34image. It is, he sees, that multitudes
- 10:37have fallen in and perished. He has nothing to grab onto to
- 10:40save himself. What kind of distress would he
- 10:42be? In It is terrifying.
- 10:43Just a picture, he says. Would not he be ready to cry out
- 10:47in such circumstances? And then he applies it directly
- 10:50to the spiritual state of an unconverted person.
- 10:53If a person actually truly grasps that they are hanging
- 10:56over an infinitely more dreadful pit of hell, held only by the
- 11:00hand of a perfectly just and provoked God, it makes total
- 11:04sense that the physical frame just gives way.
- 11:05It is a matter of proportion. We understand in our everyday
- 11:08lives that a massive dose of earthly terror causes
- 11:11physiological failure. People faint when they get a
- 11:14terrible medical diagnosis. People lose motor control and
- 11:18cry out when they're in a car accident.
- 11:20Edwards is arguing that if the realities of heaven and hell are
- 11:23actually true, and if a person is suddenly given a clear,
- 11:26unfiltered apprehension of those realities by the Holy Spirit,
- 11:29the human nervous system simply cannot handle the load.
- 11:33I think about it like an electrical grid.
- 11:35If you take a system built to handle 100 volts and you
- 11:38suddenly pump 1,000,000 volts into it, the wires will melt,
- 11:42the Breakers will trip. That is a great way to put it.
- 11:45The human body is a low voltage system.
- 11:47We are wired to process earthly things, eating, sleeping,
- 11:51working, interacting with our families.
- 11:53We are not wired to process the unfiltered infinite realities of
- 11:56heaven or hell without short circuiting.
- 11:59The electrical grid analogy captures his point beautifully.
- 12:02The Breakers trip. And Edwards is careful to note
- 12:05that it is not just the terror of hell that trips the Breakers.
- 12:08It is also the overwhelming joy of salvation.
- 12:11He argues that a tree sense of the glorious Excellency of
- 12:14Christ and a realization of his dying love can be so
- 12:17overwhelming that it diminishes bodily strength.
- 12:20He notes the biblical principle that no man can see God and
- 12:23live. We can only handle a very small
- 12:26filtered part of the apprehension of the glory of
- 12:28heaven in our present frail biological frame.
- 12:32And to support this, he goes straight to the biblical text,
- 12:35bringing up historical precedents that the orderly
- 12:38critics of his day seem to have completely forgotten or ignored.
- 12:42This brings up an example that I want us to spend some time on
- 12:45because it involves A theological concept that might
- 12:47be unfamiliar to some listeners. He brings up the Queen of Sheba
- 12:51from the Old Testament. Yes, a classic example.
- 12:54She travels to see King Solomon, and when she sees the vastness
- 12:57of his wealth and his wisdom, the text says there was no more
- 13:00spirit in her. She essentially fainted and had
- 13:03her bodily strength taken away. And Edwards asked the listener
- 13:07if the Queen of Sheba fainted just looking at Solomon's
- 13:10earthly wealth, shouldn't the church faint at the glory of
- 13:14Christ? He is employing A typological
- 13:16argument there, which was a very common and robust way of reading
- 13:21scripture in his tradition. OK, let's hit pause on that.
- 13:24You use the phrase typological argument.
- 13:26For those listening who might not be sitting in a seminary
- 13:29classroom right now, what exactly is biblical typology?
- 13:33Are we just talking about a metaphor, or is it something
- 13:35more specific? A fair question.
- 13:38Typology is much more than a simple metaphor in the
- 13:42historical Christian understanding of Scripture.
- 13:45A type is a real historical person, event, or institution in
- 13:50the Old Testament that God sovereignly designed to
- 13:53foreshadow a greater spiritual reality in the New Testament.
- 13:56OK, the greater reality is called the anti type.
- 13:58So an example of that would be the animal sacrifices in the
- 14:01book of Leviticus. The physical lamb being
- 14:03sacrificed is the type, the shadow and Jesus dying on the
- 14:06cross is the anti type, the substance it was pointing to all
- 14:10along. Precisely.
- 14:11The Old Testament is full of these shadows.
- 14:13David is a type of the true king.
- 14:15The temple is a type of God dwelling with his people.
- 14:18So when Edwards looks at the story of Solomon and the Queen
- 14:21of Sheba, he is not just finding a neat illustration.
- 14:24He sees a deeper connection. Yes, he believes Solomon, in all
- 14:28his majestic glory and wisdom, was established by God as an
- 14:31earthly type of Christ. And the Queen of Sheba, who
- 14:35comes from a distant Pagan land to marvel at his glory,
- 14:38represents the Church brought from the utmost ends of the
- 14:42earth, from a state of being an alien and a stranger, to witness
- 14:46the glory of the Savior. So Edwards is reasoning from the
- 14:49lesser to the greater. If the Shatter, Solomon's
- 14:51literal earthly gold and food and architecture was enough to
- 14:55cause a foreign queen to suffer a physical collapse from sheer
- 14:59amazement, how much more should the substance cause a collapse?
- 15:03That is it. If a person gets a true glimpse
- 15:06of the unsearchable riches of Christ, their physical reaction
- 15:09should dwarf the Queen of Sheba's reaction.
- 15:11That is his exact reasoning. If the earthly type caused a
- 15:14biological failure, you cannot complain when the heavenly anti
- 15:17type causes a biological failure.
- 15:19But he doesn't stop with the Old Testament.
- 15:21He anticipates the objection that there are no instances of
- 15:24this chaotic bodily reaction in the New Testament.
- 15:27First, he argues that even if there were no New Testament
- 15:30examples, it wouldn't invalidate the phenomenon because reason
- 15:33and the natural laws of human biology account for it.
- 15:36But then he points out that the critics are actually wrong about
- 15:39the text. There are explicit examples in
- 15:41the New Testament. He points directly to the
- 15:43Philippian jailer in Acts Chapter 16.
- 15:45I want to break down that scene because it is so vivid.
- 15:49Paul and Silas are in prison. They are singing hymns and an
- 15:52earthquake hits the prison. Doors fly open.
- 15:56It is a dramatic moment. Very the jailer wakes up,
- 15:59assumes all the prisoners have escaped, and draws his sword to
- 16:02kill himself, knowing the Roman authorities will execute him
- 16:05anyway for losing the prisoners. Paul yells out.
- 16:07Do not harm yourself, for we are all here.
- 16:10And then the jailer comes in. The text says he called for
- 16:13lights, rushed in and came trembling and fell down before
- 16:17Paul and Silas. Edwards makes a very keen
- 16:20observational point here. He says the jailer's falling
- 16:23down was not a polite, designed posture of religious
- 16:26supplication. It wasn't a formal bow.
- 16:29Because he don't say anything to them at first, the text says he
- 16:32fell down and then brought them out and then asked sirs, what
- 16:36must I do to be saved? Edwards interprets that falling
- 16:40down as an involuntary biological response stemming
- 16:43from the same psychological shock that caused his trembling.
- 16:47He had just gone from the terror of imminent execution to the
- 16:50overwhelming realization of a supernatural rescue.
- 16:54He was in the utmost distress and amazement and his legs
- 16:57literally gave out. Edwards also brings in the
- 16:59Psalms to support this body soul connection.
- 17:02He mentioned Psalm 32 where Dave talks about his bones wasting
- 17:05away through his groaning all day long and his strength being
- 17:08dried up as by the heat of summer, all because of the heavy
- 17:12guilt of his sin. The critics might say, well,
- 17:14David is just being poetic. But Edwards argues that the
- 17:17psalmist would not represent his spiritual case with absurd,
- 17:19disconnected physical descriptions if that mental
- 17:22state of heavy guilt had no actual tendency to produce those
- 17:26physiological results. The poetry works because the
- 17:28biological connection is real. Yes, he also points to the
- 17:32disciples in a boat during a storm in Matthew 14.
- 17:35When they see Jesus walking on the water.
- 17:37They don't have a calm theological discussion about the
- 17:40hypostatic union. No, they panic.
- 17:43The text says they were terrified and they cried out in
- 17:46fear because they thought he was a ghost.
- 17:48Their fear of the supernatural produced a loud, involuntary
- 17:53vocal reaction, and he cites the spouse in the Song of Solomon
- 17:57saying I am sick of love, indicating a state of being
- 18:01physically overpowered by intense affection.
- 18:03What Edwards is doing here is systematically stripping away
- 18:06the stoic, hyper rationalistic lens of his critics.
- 18:10He addresses a very specific historical objection regarding
- 18:12the Quakers too. Critics were saying look at the
- 18:15Quakers. They tremble and shake, and we
- 18:17all know they are misguided enthusiasts.
- 18:20Therefore, any trembling must be a sign of demonic delusion or
- 18:23psychological manipulation. It is guilt by association.
- 18:26Yeah, and Edwards exposes it as a remarkably weak argument.
- 18:31He states that just because of false movement produces physical
- 18:34effects does not mean Saul of Tarsus did not legitimately
- 18:38tremble when he was struck blind on the road to Damascus.
- 18:41The existence of a false shaking does not disprove a true
- 18:44shaking. He delivers a crushing summary
- 18:46to this whole point. He says those who argue against
- 18:49a revival based on effects on the body proceed in the dark.
- 18:53They do not know what ground they are standing on.
- 18:55The root and course of spiritual things must be examined by the
- 18:59rule of God's Word, not by taking the pulse or examining
- 19:02the motions of the blood and animal spirits.
- 19:04You cannot diagnose the condition of a human soul by
- 19:07measuring a physical reaction. The physical reaction is just a
- 19:10byproduct of the mental apprehension of truth.
- 19:12Exactly. So if this mental apprehension
- 19:14of heaven and hell is causing people to cry out, tremble, and
- 19:17faint, it naturally leads to the next major controversy.
- 19:21This physical short circuiting doesn't just happen in private
- 19:23closets at home where nobody can see it.
- 19:25No, it is very public. It bursts out into the public
- 19:28square. It disrupts society.
- 19:30Which brings us to Edward's next point, the objection against
- 19:34public emotion and noise. Critics were highly offended
- 19:38that the revival was causing such a great deal of noise and
- 19:41commotion about religion. People generally want religion
- 19:44to be polite. They want it to be quiet,
- 19:46respectable and contained within a building on a Sunday morning.
- 19:49They wanted to be an entirely private affair.
- 19:51The cultural elite in Edwards Day viewed intense public
- 19:55displays of faith as vulgar. But Edwards argues that human
- 19:59nature makes it morally impossible for a large group of
- 20:01people to care deeply about something eternal without
- 20:04causing a visible, open stir in society.
- 20:07He actually says there's a great absurdity in men being only
- 20:10moderately moved by infinite concerns.
- 20:13If spiritual things are truly a matter of eternal life and
- 20:15death, how could a whole town be greatly affected by them without
- 20:18any noise or stir? The nature of man simply will
- 20:21not allow it. Think about it sociologically.
- 20:24Whenever a society goes through a massive shift, whether it is a
- 20:28political revolution, a devastating war, a sudden
- 20:31famine, or even a major cultural milestone, there is noise.
- 20:36There is open commotion, normal routine stop.
- 20:39People gather in the streets, they argue, they weep, they
- 20:42celebrate. To expect a society to suddenly
- 20:45awaken to the terrifying realities of hell and the
- 20:48glorious realities of heaven in total polite silence is to
- 20:52demand inhuman behavior. I think about it like a major
- 20:55sports championship. Imagine a city whose baseball
- 20:57team has not won a championship in 80 years.
- 20:59They finally win the final game. You would never expect that city
- 21:03to celebrate in total silence. No, never.
- 21:05You expect massive noise. You expect crowds gathering in
- 21:07the streets, strangers hugging each other, cheering, parades,
- 21:10traffic jams, people honking their horns all night.
- 21:13If a temporary, meaningless temporal victory causes that
- 21:16much visible commotion, why on earth would we expect a massive
- 21:19spiritual rescue? Operation Saving thousands of
- 21:22people from eternal destruction to happen quietly.
- 21:25The sports analogy fits the sociological reality perfectly.
- 21:29If the stimulus is massive, the societal response will be
- 21:32massive. But the critics in the 18th
- 21:34century had a theological counter argument prepared.
- 21:37Oh, it did. They quoted the words of Christ
- 21:39in Luke chapter 17 where Jesus says the Kingdom of God cometh
- 21:43not with observation. They use this specific verse to
- 21:48argue that true religion is internal, quiet, and invisible
- 21:52to the naked eye. That sounds like a strong
- 21:54biblical objection. How does Edwards dismantle it?
- 21:57He contextualizes the verse by looking at the surrounding text.
- 22:00He explains it. When Jesus said the Kingdom
- 22:02comes without observation, he meant that it will not
- 22:05consistent outward earthly royal pomp.
- 22:07Like military parades, right? It will not be set up like the
- 22:10Roman Empire, with a physical king sitting in a physical
- 22:13palace with visible armies. But then Edwards points to the
- 22:16very next verses in that exact same passage, where Jesus
- 22:19continues explaining the nature of his Kingdom.
- 22:21He points to verse 24. For as the lightning that
- 22:24lightneth out of the one part under heaven shineth unto the
- 22:26other part under heaven, so shall also the Son of Man be in
- 22:30his day. Right.
- 22:31Lightning is a lot of things, but it is not quiet, it is not
- 22:36hidden, it is not polite, It glares in everyone's eyes, it
- 22:39shines from one side of the sky to the other, and it is followed
- 22:42by Thunder. Yeah, Edwards argues that this
- 22:45indicates the setting up of the Kingdom of God will be a very
- 22:48open and public event, glaring in the sight of the whole world.
- 22:52He backs this up by looking at the history of the early church
- 22:55in the book of Acts. The pouring out of the Holy
- 22:58Spirit in the apostles days occasioned a massive stir
- 23:01everywhere they went. Jerusalem, Samaria, Antioch,
- 23:04Ephesus, Corinth. It was unavoidable.
- 23:07The affair filled the known world with noise.
- 23:09He quotes Acts 17 where the opponents of the gospel in
- 23:12Thessalonica complained to the city authorities crying out
- 23:15these that have turned the world upside down are come hit her
- 23:18also. A quiet, purely private faith
- 23:21does not turn the world upside down.
- 23:23It does not provoke massive riots in the amphitheater in
- 23:25Ephesus or cause the religious council in Jerusalem to panic.
- 23:29The sheer volume of the public commotion is actually a
- 23:32testament to the heavyweight of what is happening.
- 23:34So the noise in the streets is one thing, but then Edwards has
- 23:36to deal with what is happening inside the heads of the people
- 23:39making that noise. Critics were pointing out that
- 23:42people in these revivals were having intense mental imagery.
- 23:46They were reporting ecstasies where they felt transported, and
- 23:50they were having vivid visions of heaven or of Christ.
- 23:54Skeptics use this to dismiss the whole revival as pure enthusiasm
- 23:58or worse, demonic delusion. This section reveals one of
- 24:02Edwards most advanced psychological insights.
- 24:05Drawing heavily on the philosophy of his day regarding
- 24:08how the mind acquires knowledge, he normalizes the function of
- 24:11the human imagination. He states flatly that we as
- 24:14physical creatures cannot think of things invisible without a
- 24:17degree of imagination. If you try to fix your thoughts
- 24:20on God or the realities of another world, imaginary ideas
- 24:24will inevitably attend your meditations.
- 24:26He challenges the reader directly on this point.
- 24:28He says, I dare appeal to any man of the greatest powers of
- 24:30mind, whether he is able to fix his thoughts on God or Christ,
- 24:34or the things of another world, without imaginary ideas
- 24:37attending his meditations. And when you think about it, he
- 24:40is right. We cannot conceive of abstract
- 24:42infinite realities without using sensory building blocks.
- 24:46We picture blinding light. We picture a massive throne.
- 24:49We picture a crown. We have to use sensory metaphors
- 24:53to process non sensory realities.
- 24:55And Edwards points out that the more engaged the mind is and the
- 24:58more intense the spiritual affection, the more lively and
- 25:01strong that imaginary idea will be.
- 25:04The brain works overtime to supply imagery to match the
- 25:06intensity of the emotion. This is especially true when
- 25:09there is a sudden, violent change of mental state.
- 25:12He talks about a person moving from extreme fear, that dread of
- 25:16the pit of hell we talked about earlier, to an extremely
- 25:19ravishing and delightful view of the joy of salvation.
- 25:22That sudden emotional whiplash takes stronghold of the human
- 25:25passions, and the imagination fires on all cylinders.
- 25:28He defends the imagination as a necessary faculty given by God.
- 25:32It is subservient and helpful to the other faculties when it is
- 25:35used properly. Even suggests that God
- 25:37condescends to the circumstances of human frailty, especially
- 25:40dealing with people who might be less educated or more ignorant,
- 25:44dealing with them as babes. Oh, that is interesting.
- 25:46Yeah, he uses these strong outward mental representations
- 25:49to instruct them, much in the same way God used physical types
- 25:53and shadows in the Old Testament to teach Israel.
- 25:56But I have to push back here because we are not just talking
- 25:58about someone closing their eyes and picturing a bright light
- 26:01while they pray Fairpoint. The text mentions people being
- 26:05in a kind of trance or ecstasy, carried beyond themselves,
- 26:08having their minds transported into a train of strong and
- 26:11pleasing imaginations, almost like they are having a literal
- 26:15vision of glorious sights in heaven.
- 26:18In a reformed theological framework where we believe the
- 26:21Canon of Scripture is closed and God is not, giving new prophetic
- 26:24revelations, isn't defending these visions incredibly
- 26:27dangerous territory? It is a vital distinction to
- 26:30make, and Edwards is extremely careful here.
- 26:32He acknowledges that people are highly apartment to lay too much
- 26:35weight on the imaginary part of their experience.
- 26:38They confuse what is merely biological and imaginary with
- 26:41what is truly intellectual and spiritual.
- 26:43Right. But his main point is that we do
- 26:45not need to bring the devil into the account to explain these
- 26:48ecstasies, nor do we need to assume they are true divine
- 26:53prophetic visions like the Apostle Paul being caught up
- 26:56into the 3rd heaven. So if they are not demonic and
- 26:59they are not divine revelation, what are they?
- 27:01They are just human nature under intense spiritual exercise.
- 27:06He links it back to the physical frailty we discussed earlier,
- 27:09the bandwidth linnet. When the whole soul is ravished
- 27:12and swallowed up by a true biblical sense of the beauty of
- 27:16Christ, the physical brain is intensely affected.
- 27:19But just diverts energy. Exactly.
- 27:21Your strength is entirely diverted from the external
- 27:23senses. Yeah.
- 27:24Meaning the person literally stops noticing the room they're
- 27:27in, they don't hear the sounds around them, they lose physical
- 27:29coordination, and the brain becomes wholly employed in a
- 27:33train of delightful imaginations that correspond to their holy
- 27:36frame of mind. So it is almost like a
- 27:38spiritually induced waking dream.
- 27:40The core emotional truth they're feeling, the love for Christ,
- 27:44the relief of forgiveness is genuinely from the Spirit of
- 27:47God. But the specific visual imagery
- 27:50their brain constructs to represent that feeling, say
- 27:53seeing Jesus sitting on a literal golden chair in the
- 27:56clouds, is just the biological brain doing what brains do when
- 28:01they are overwhelmed. That is a very precise way to
- 28:04state his argument. He says the holy frame and the
- 28:07spiritual sense is from the Spirit of God, but the
- 28:10imaginations that attended are but accidental.
- 28:13Therefore, there is commonly something in the details of the
- 28:16visions that is confused, improper, or factually false.
- 28:20That distinction is crucial. He's saying do not look at the
- 28:23details of the vision and treat them as a new divine revelation.
- 28:26Do not write down what the person saw and add it to the
- 28:29back of your Bible. Right, because the vision itself
- 28:31might be factually confused. But do not throw the baby out
- 28:33with the bathwater. The underlying, overwhelming
- 28:35love for Christ that triggered that mental state.
- 28:38That is the genuine work of the Spirit.
- 28:40If you judge the revival by the factual accuracy of a teenage
- 28:43teenagers ecstatic vision, you will reject the revival.
- 28:47But if you see the ecstasy as a natural biological byproduct of
- 28:51a genuine spiritual awakening, you can accept the spiritual
- 28:54work while gently correcting the person's interpretation of their
- 28:57vision. You can pastor them through the
- 29:00theology without denying their experience.
- 29:02This visible loud commotion and these intense visible reactions
- 29:06of ecstasy and fainting inevitably force other people to
- 29:09watch. It is impossible to ignore your
- 29:11neighbor collapsing in the street.
- 29:13And that brings us to Edward's next point, the contagion of
- 29:16example. Skeptics see this emotional
- 29:19reaction spreading from person to person in a crowd.
- 29:21And they say, see, this isn't God, it is just peer pressure.
- 29:25It is contagious crowd psychology.
- 29:27And Edward's response to the peer pressure argument is
- 29:29essentially yes, it is socially contagious, and that is exactly
- 29:32how God designed human society to work.
- 29:35He states plainly it is no sign that a work is not from the
- 29:38Spirit of God. That example is a great means of
- 29:41it. He argues that God uses earthly
- 29:44means to carry on his work, and human example is one of the
- 29:48primary scriptural means of communication.
- 29:51He provides A philosophical argument here about the language
- 29:53of actions. Words are only useful insofar as
- 29:56they convey ideas to others, but actions can signify things much
- 30:00more fully and effectually than mere syllables.
- 30:03There is a deep language there. Yes, a deep, visceral language
- 30:07in human actions. He uses a rather intense example
- 30:09to prove this. He says imagine seeing someone
- 30:12in extreme bodily torment. If you see someone thrashing on
- 30:16the ground in agony, screaming in pain, you get a much clearer,
- 30:19more convincing idea of their suffering than if an unaffected,
- 30:23indifferent bystander just calmly narrated to you that man
- 30:27over there is experiencing a high degree of pain.
- 30:29The visual evidence of the behavior bypasses our analytical
- 30:32filter and go straight to the core of our understanding.
- 30:35We feel their pain empathetically.
- 30:37Edwards argues that the exact same dynamic applies to seeing
- 30:40someone in the actual enjoyment of something excellent and
- 30:42delightful, right. Their visible joy, their tears
- 30:45of relief, communicate the reality of that joy far better
- 30:49than a dull theological narration.
- 30:52He argues that God condescends to human nature.
- 30:54Here we are social, visual creatures.
- 30:57We learn by watching each other. We take our cues from the herd.
- 31:01Even those highly educated rationalists who boast of their
- 31:04strength of reason are intensely influenced by the actions and
- 31:07examples of others, whether they admit it or not.
- 31:10It is unavoidable. But let me raise a skeptical
- 31:12question on behalf of the listener.
- 31:13How do we separate genuine spiritual influence from mere
- 31:17crowd psychology? I mean, yawning is contagious.
- 31:21We know that panic in a burning bottom is contagious.
- 31:24Just because the panic spreads from person to person rapidly
- 31:27doesn't mean the threat is real. People can Stampede over a false
- 31:30alarm. Wait, I think I might be
- 31:32answering my own question without analogy.
- 31:33You are. Let's look closely at your
- 31:35analogy of a burning building. The contagious nature of the
- 31:37panic is the mechanism of transmission.
- 31:40But the mechanism of transmission does not invalidate
- 31:42the reality of the threat. If a building is actually on
- 31:45fire, the fire is real. The visible reaction of Person A
- 31:49running in terror from the flames is what alerts Person B
- 31:52to the reality of the fire. Person B's reaction validates
- 31:56the invisible threat that they haven't even seen yet.
- 31:59So just because someone begins to weep over their sin because
- 32:02they saw someone else weeping over their sin, it doesn't mean
- 32:05their repentance is fake. It means the first person's
- 32:08example acted as the alarm bell that woke them up to a reality
- 32:12they were previously ignoring. Edwards does add a pastoral
- 32:15caveat here, though. He acknowledges that religious
- 32:18affections raised merely by the contagion of example might prove
- 32:21flashy and soon vanish. He references A theological
- 32:25concept known as the Stony ground hearers.
- 32:27Let's clarify that term for our listeners.
- 32:29Stony ground hearers is a reference to a parable Jesus
- 32:31told right? Yes, the parable of the sower
- 32:34Jesus describes seed falling on different types of soil.
- 32:37The seed that falls on Stony grounds springs up quickly with
- 32:40great joy, but because it has no deep root, it Withers and dies
- 32:44as soon as the sun comes up or tribulation hits.
- 32:46Edwards acknowledges that in a massive revival, many people
- 32:50will get swept up in the emotion of the crowd, the Stony ground
- 32:53hearers, and their faith will not last.
- 32:56But he insists that for many others, affections moved
- 32:59initially by example become abiding, rooted and proved to be
- 33:03a genuine saving work. He looks at biblical history to
- 33:06back this up, noting that there was never a time of great
- 33:09revival where human example didn't play a massive role.
- 33:12He points to the Thessalonian church in the New Testament.
- 33:15Paul writes to them and says that their faith sounded forth
- 33:18and became an example to all the believers in Macedonia and
- 33:21Achaea. Their visible transformation was
- 33:23the catalyst for other regions. He anticipates A theological
- 33:27objection from his fellow ministers who might argue that
- 33:30the preaching of the Word of God is supposed to be the principal
- 33:32means of salvation, not human example.
- 33:36His answer is very nuanced. He agrees that the Word of God
- 33:38is indeed the principal means, but example is what makes the
- 33:41Word visible and applied. He says all the visible
- 33:44reactions in the crowd are unintelligible without the Word
- 33:47of God to instruct the mind as to what they mean.
- 33:50But the Word is held forth and made urgent by the example.
- 33:52He gives some great biblical models of this contagion of
- 33:55example. He points to the Old Testament
- 33:58story of Ruth. Ruth is a Moabite woman.
- 34:01Her mother-in-law, Naomi, an Israelite, decides to leave Moab
- 34:04and return to Israel. Ruth sees Naomi's life, her
- 34:07sorrow and her steadfastness. And Ruth is so moved by Naomi's
- 34:11example that she says Your people shall be my people and
- 34:14your God, my God. That is beautiful.
- 34:16Edwards calls Ruth a great type of the church, leaving her false
- 34:19gods to trust the God of Israel, entirely provoked by the visible
- 34:23example of another person. He also mentions an incredible
- 34:26prophecy in Zechariah chapter 8 which speaks of a future time of
- 34:30massive spiritual awakening. The prophecy says that 10 men
- 34:33from all nations and languages will take hold of the skirt of a
- 34:36Jew and say, we will go with you, for we have heard that God
- 34:40is with you. We have heard that God is with
- 34:41you. They are drawn because they see
- 34:43the visible evidence in the lives of others.
- 34:46The example is the magnet. But while Example is a powerful
- 34:49engine for spreading a movement, we have to acknowledge a dark
- 34:52reality. This movement is spreading among
- 34:55deeply flawed, sinful human beings.
- 34:57You were true. When thousands of messy, corrupt
- 35:00humans catch this contagion, it creates an absolute mess.
- 35:05Which takes us to Edwards's next major section, dealing with the
- 35:08messiness of the multitude. This is where Edwards proves he
- 35:11is not naive. He is a staunch defender of the
- 35:14revival, but he is not blind to the ugliness, the pride, and the
- 35:17chaos that accompanies it. He groups several negative signs
- 35:21together here to deal with the inevitable fallout of mass human
- 35:24involvement in the spiritual awakening.
- 35:26He starts by addressing great imprudences and irregularities
- 35:29and conduct. Critics look at the unwise
- 35:31behavior, the lack of discretion, the chaotic
- 35:34meetings, and they argue God is a God of order.
- 35:36This movement is highly disorderly, therefore it cannot
- 35:39be the work of God. And Edwards replies with a harsh
- 35:42but necessary theological truth. The end for which God pours out
- 35:46his Spirit is to make men holy, not to make them politicians.
- 35:50That is a phenomenal line not to make them politicians.
- 35:54Meaning God isn't trying to make these newly omic and people
- 35:57shrewd, socially acceptable diplomatic managers of public
- 36:01perception. Exactly the point.
- 36:03You are dealing with a mixed multitude.
- 36:06You have the wise and the unwise, the young and the old,
- 36:09the educated and people with very weak natural abilities.
- 36:13When you place all of these different temperaments under
- 36:17vehement, intense spiritual affections, of course they are
- 36:20going to behave imprudently. Yeah, that just makes sense.
- 36:23Edwards points out a basic psychological fact.
- 36:26Very few people know how to conduct themselves with perfect
- 36:29propriety under strong emotions of any kind, whether temporal or
- 36:33spiritual. It requires a great deal of
- 36:35discretion and steadiness of mind, which the vast majority of
- 36:38people simply do not possess. He states that 1000 imprudences
- 36:41will not prove a work to be not of the Spirit of God, even if
- 36:45there are things prevailing that are highly irregular and
- 36:47contrary to the rules of God's Word.
- 36:49Which sounds shocking at first. It does.
- 36:52He accounts for this by pointing to a core tenet of Reformed
- 36:55theology, the exceeding weakness of human nature, and the
- 36:59remaining darkness and corruption of those who are the
- 37:01subjects of saving grace. Total depravity doesn't vanish
- 37:05entirely the moment a person is converted.
- 37:08The old nature fights the new nature.
- 37:10To prove that a true church can be an absolute mess, he takes us
- 37:14back to the New Testament, to the poster child for messy,
- 37:18irregular churches, the church at Corinth.
- 37:20Oh, the Corinthians. If any modern orderly critic
- 37:24visited the 1st century Corinthian church on a Sunday
- 37:27morning, they would run out the door screaming.
- 37:29Let's detail their mess for a second.
- 37:31It was a disaster. Edwards notes that Corinth was
- 37:33celebrated by Paul for partaking largely in the outpouring of the
- 37:36Spirit. They had extraordinary,
- 37:38miraculous gifts. Yet look at their daily conduct.
- 37:42They had manifold imprudences. They had sinful irregularities.
- 37:45They had strange confusion at the Lord's Supper.
- 37:48People were literally getting drunk at the communion table
- 37:51while others went hungry. They had indecent public
- 37:54worship, with people interrupting each other and
- 37:56speaking over each other. They had jarring contentions and
- 37:59factions fighting over which teacher they followed.
- 38:02Some were even denying the bodily resurrection.
- 38:04It was chaos. Yet despite all of that massive
- 38:08irregularity and sin, the Apostle Paul still opens his
- 38:11letter by addressing them as the Church of God.
- 38:14The presence of massive irregularity and human
- 38:16foolishness did not nullify the reality of the Holy Spirit's
- 38:19underlying presence in that congregation.
- 38:22Edwards pushes the point even further.
- 38:24It is not just the laypeople who mess up and act imprudently.
- 38:28The leaders do it too. He brings up the Apostle Peter.
- 38:31Peter's a great, eminently, wholly inspired apostle the
- 38:34rock. Yet Peter was guilty of a great
- 38:37and sinful error in his public conduct at Antioch, which Paul
- 38:40recounts in Galatians chapter 2. Let's outline what happened at
- 38:43Antioch. Peter was eating and
- 38:45fellowshipping freely with the Gentile believers.
- 38:48But when a group of strict traditionalist Jewish believers,
- 38:52the circumcision party, came from James, Peter withdrew from
- 38:55the Gentiles out of fear of what the traditionalists would think,
- 38:58right. He separated himself, and his
- 39:00example LED other Jewish believers, even Barnabas, into a
- 39:03hypocritical division of the church.
- 39:06Paul had to confront Peter publicly to his face because he
- 39:08stood condemned. That is the historical event,
- 39:11and Edwards argues from it forcefully.
- 39:14If a great pillar of the Christian Church, one of the
- 39:16chief foundations, a man who walked with Christ, could be
- 39:19guilty of such fearful irregularity and hypocrisy, why
- 39:23are we surprised when lesser instruments, young ministers in
- 39:26the 18th century who do not have Peter's extraordinary Apostolic
- 39:29inspiration, fall into error and imprudence during a massive
- 39:33revival? A specific error Edwards
- 39:35mentions, which is so common in revivals, is the tendency of
- 39:38newly awakened people to severely censure others as
- 39:41unconverted. It's a very specific kind of
- 39:44spiritual pride. Yeah.
- 39:45A young person gets a little bit of zeal.
- 39:47They feel the fire of the spirit, and suddenly they set
- 39:50themselves up as the judge of everyone else's soul.
- 39:53They look at the older, quieter minister and declare him dead
- 39:56and unconverted because he isn't shouting as loud as they are.
- 39:59Edwards analyzes the psychology of the spiritual pride with
- 40:02devastating accuracy. He says this censoriousness
- 40:06comes from a lack of apprehending the vast latitude
- 40:09the Spirit uses in his operations.
- 40:11God works differently in different people.
- 40:13But more significantly, it comes from remaining corruption where
- 40:17human spiritual pride finds a secret, socially acceptable vent
- 40:21under the disguise of holy zeal. He notes that lukewarmness is
- 40:25abominable and true zeal is an excellent grace, but zeal needs
- 40:29to be strictly watched and guarded because human pride and
- 40:32human passion love to mix with it unobserved.
- 40:35The person thinks they are being holy, but they are actually just
- 40:37being arrogant. He cites historical examples of
- 40:40this out of control zeal. He mentions the early Christians
- 40:43fighting viciously over unclean meats.
- 40:45He mentions the Constantinian era.
- 40:47Let's clarify the Constantinian era for context.
- 40:50This is when the Roman Emperor Constantine legalized
- 40:53Christianity in the 4th century, right?
- 40:55The Church went from being violently persecuted to being
- 40:58the favored religion of the empire, and Edwards notes that
- 41:02during this transition, the zeal of the Christians turned into a
- 41:05degree of improper severity and persecution against heathenism.
- 41:10When they got power, their zeal became punitive.
- 41:13And Edwards doesn't spare his own theological camp either.
- 41:17He notes that in the Protestant Reformation, zeal frequently led
- 41:20to improper severity, specifically naming the great
- 41:23John Calvin. It is a phenomenal concession
- 41:25for a Reformed theologian to make.
- 41:27He is saying look at our theological heroes, look at
- 41:29Calvin, look at the early Church Fathers.
- 41:31They had true zeal, but it was heavily mixed with human
- 41:34severity, blind spots, and error.
- 41:36Which leads right into his next major point, the presence of
- 41:39errors in judgement and actual delusions of Satan intermixed
- 41:43with the work. Critics were observing the
- 41:45revival and saying that because some people were believing false
- 41:48doctrines or following impulses they incorrectly thought were
- 41:52divine revelations, the whole revival must be a demonic
- 41:55counterfeit. Edwards responds by adjusting
- 41:57their theological expectations. He says we cannot expect the
- 42:01Spirit of God to be given now in the 18th century in the same
- 42:04infallible manner as he was given to the apostles to write
- 42:07Scripture. He operates from the conviction
- 42:09that the Canon of Scripture is closed.
- 42:12So people will experience the influence of the Holy Spirit
- 42:15illuminating their minds to understand the Bible, but they
- 42:18will not have infallible doctrinal guidance downloaded
- 42:20directly into their brains. They're still prone to
- 42:23misinterpreting things. And Satan will absolutely take
- 42:26advantage of that vulnerability. Edwards argues that the presence
- 42:29of delusions of Satan is not an argument against a genuine work
- 42:32of God, any more than the presence of false miracles in
- 42:35Egypt proved that Moses wasn't sent by God.
- 42:38He brings up Jonathan John Bruce.
- 42:40Let's make sure everyone understands that reference.
- 42:43Who are Janus and Jambras? They are traditionally
- 42:46understood to be the Egyptian magicians who opposed Moses in
- 42:49the Book of Exodus. When Moses threw down his staff
- 42:52and it became a snake, they used their dark arts to make their
- 42:56Staffs become snakes. When Moses turned the Nile to
- 42:59blood, they used secret arts to counterfeit that plague.
- 43:03They wrought false miracles by the power of the devil, right
- 43:06alongside the true miracles of God.
- 43:08Exactly. The devil counterfeiting the
- 43:10work does not mean the work of Moses was fake.
- 43:13Edward states a theological paradox here that is crucial for
- 43:17any observer of a revival to grasp.
- 43:19The same person can be the subject of the genuine
- 43:21influences of the Holy Spirit, and yet in some specific areas
- 43:25be LED away by the delusions of Satan.
- 43:28He says grace dwells with so much corruption.
- 43:30In the present state. The new man and the old man
- 43:33subsist together in the same person.
- 43:35The Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of the devil remain for
- 43:37a while together in the same heart, fighting for territory.
- 43:40It is the messy reality of the Christian condition.
- 43:42Many godly people expose themselves to woeful delusions
- 43:45because they lay too much weight on internal impulses.
- 43:48They get a strong feeling and they treat it as an immediate
- 43:51revelation from God, directing them where to go or what to do,
- 43:54rather than testing it against Scripture.
- 43:57And sometimes those delusions lead to total moral collapse,
- 44:01which is the next major objection Edwards tackles.
- 44:05What happens when people who were thought to be genuinely
- 44:07converted fall away into gross theological errors or scandalous
- 44:12moral practices? This is the ultimate weapon for
- 44:15a skeptic. A prominent leader of the
- 44:17revival falls into a massive moral scandal, or a vocal,
- 44:21dramatic convert apostatizes and renounces the faith.
- 44:24The critic points to the scandal and says, see, I told you the
- 44:27whole movement is a sham. It's all fake.
- 44:29But Edwards argues that the existence of counterfeits does
- 44:31not prove that nothing is true. In fact, he argues that such
- 44:34things are always to be expected in a time of great spiritual
- 44:37reformation. Let's consider the listener here
- 44:39who might be trying to process a scandal in their own modern
- 44:42church context. If Satan is actively producing
- 44:45counterfeits and prominent leaders are falling into
- 44:48scandalous sin, how is a regular everyday Christian supposed to
- 44:52trust the movement at all? Why not just become a cynic?
- 44:55Think of it like a financial system.
- 44:57If you find counterfeit $100 bills circulating in your city,
- 45:01does that mean the central bank is fake?
- 45:03Does it mean the entire concept of currency is a lie?
- 45:05No. No.
- 45:07Finding counterfeits actually proves the real currency holds
- 45:10tremendous value. Counterfeits only exist because
- 45:13the genuine article is worth copying.
- 45:15If the spiritual revival had no value, if it wasn't damaging his
- 45:18Kingdom, Satan wouldn't bother minting fake conversions and
- 45:21orchestrating scandals to discredit it.
- 45:23That analogy clarifies the dynamic perfectly.
- 45:26The existence of the fake proves the value of the real, and
- 45:30Edwards points out that church history is filled with these
- 45:32counterfeits. He notes that in the apostles
- 45:35days, instances of this were innumerable.
- 45:37Some believers fell into gross heresies and vile practices.
- 45:41Some were even teachers and officers in the church, endowed
- 45:44with miraculous gifts as mentioned in Hebrews chapter 6.
- 45:47He brings up the most devastating example possible,
- 45:50Judas Iscariot. Judas was one of the 12.
- 45:54He was constantly united with truly experienced disciples.
- 45:57He was treated by Jesus as a disciple.
- 46:00He was sent out to preach the Kingdom, and he was endued with
- 46:02miraculous gifts to heal the sick and cast out demons.
- 46:06Jesus knew his heart from the beginning.
- 46:08But Jesus acted as a minister of the visible Church, not
- 46:10rejecting him publicly until Judas's scandalous practice
- 46:13exposed his internal treason. Edwards highlights the Judas
- 46:16narrative to give a warning to the critics.
- 46:19Do not act the part of the omniscient judge.
- 46:22We judge by visible fruits, but we cannot see the heart.
- 46:25If a Judas sneaks into the leadership of a revival, it is a
- 46:28tragedy, but it does not mean the other 11 apostles or frauds.
- 46:33It does not mean the gospel they are preaching is fake.
- 46:36He also mentions Nicholas, one of the original 7 deacons chosen
- 46:39by the church in Acts chapter 6. The Church chose him because he
- 46:43was looked upon as a man full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom.
- 46:46Yet historical traditions suggest he likely became the
- 46:49head of the Nicolaitans, A vile heretical sect mentioned in the
- 46:52Book of Revelation that Jesus says he hates.
- 46:56A spirit filled leader spawned a heresy.
- 46:59And Edwards pulls from the Protestant Reformation again,
- 47:01noting how men who initially seemed to join the reformers
- 47:04fell away into absurd errors. He quotes a writer named Anthony
- 47:07Burgess who noted that the early reformers faced bitter conflict
- 47:11not just from traditionalists on the outside, but from wild
- 47:13enthusiasts on the inside who pretended to be more enlightened
- 47:16than the reformers themselves. These enthusiasts were radical
- 47:20sectarians. They called those who stuck to
- 47:22the clear teaching of Scripture litorists or vowelists, claiming
- 47:26that the reformers had the dead letter of the text, but they
- 47:29themselves have the living spirit.
- 47:31These wild enthusiasts caused massive divisions.
- 47:34They made the Reformation look abominable to the watching
- 47:37world, and they even attacked Martin Luther, claiming he
- 47:40preached A carnal gospel because he wouldn't endorse their chaos.
- 47:44Edwards notes that in England during the time of Oliver
- 47:47Cromwell, and even in the purest early days of New England, these
- 47:51kinds of enthusiastic breakouts happened.
- 47:53The devil constantly sows tares among the wheat, but the devil
- 47:57sowing tares in the field is no proof that the true wheat isn't
- 48:00growing gloriously alongside it. The messiness of the multitude
- 48:04is a guarantee humans are deeply flawed, remaining corruption is
- 48:07real, the devil is highly active, and the stakes of the
- 48:10conflict are infinitely high. Which brings us to the final,
- 48:13and perhaps most controversial objection Edwards tackles.
- 48:18Because the stakes are so infinitely high and the threat
- 48:21of eternal judgement is real, the men tasked with leading this
- 48:25movement must speak with a corresponding level of absolute
- 48:28urgency. Critics were highly offended by
- 48:31the preaching style of the awakening ministers.
- 48:33They argue that the revival was promoted by ministers insisting
- 48:37very much on the terrors of God's holy law, and doing so
- 48:41with a great deal of pathos, earnestness and loud volume.
- 48:44We call it fire and brimstone preaching today.
- 48:47Modern listeners generally despise it.
- 48:48They view it as manipulative, abusive scare tactics.
- 48:52They want a polite, intellectual Ted talk style discourse on
- 48:55morality and self improvement. But Edwards argues from the
- 48:58foundational premise of the biblical text, if there's really
- 49:01a hell of dreadful and never ending torments, and if
- 49:04multitudes of people are in imminent danger of falling into
- 49:07it because they lack a sense of its terribleness, why is it not
- 49:10entirely proper to take great pains to make them sensible of
- 49:13it? He operates on sheer logic here.
- 49:16He says, if I am in danger of going to hell, I should be glad
- 49:19to know as much as possibly I can, of the dreadfulness of it.
- 49:23The Minister does the listener the greatest possible kindness
- 49:26when he sets forth the misery and the danger in the liveliest,
- 49:30most terrifying manner he is capable of.
- 49:32He uses a devastatingly simple analogy of a temporal calamity
- 49:36to prove this point. He addresses the heads of
- 49:38families directly. He says if you saw one of your
- 49:41children in a house all on fire, in imminent danger of being
- 49:44consumed in the flames, but the child was insensible to the
- 49:47danger, maybe they were playing or sleeping and they were
- 49:49ignoring your calls, would you go on speaking to them in a
- 49:52cold, indifferent, conversational manner?
- 49:55The answer is obvious to any parent.
- 49:57You would cry aloud, You would scream, You would represent the
- 50:00danger in the most lively, terrified manner you were
- 50:03capable of. You would physically grab them
- 50:05if you had to, he says. If you stood outside a burning
- 50:07house. And spoke in an ordinary calm
- 50:09tone of voice about the flames. The people around you would
- 50:12think you were bereft of reason. Nature itself teaches men
- 50:15otherwise. Let's expand on this analogy.
- 50:18Because it is so relevant to how we communicate danger our daily
- 50:21lives. Think about how a doctor
- 50:23communicates. If a doctor sits you down and
- 50:26calmly tells you about a fatal disease you have, that calm tone
- 50:30seems professional because the threat, while deadly, is
- 50:34internal and long term. You have months to process it.
- 50:38But if you are walking across a busy intersection and a speeding
- 50:40truck is about to hit you and a bystander on the curb just
- 50:43casually remarks, excuse me, Sir, you might want to consider
- 50:46taking a step backward. That bystander seems
- 50:49psychopathic. The vocal urgency must match the
- 50:52physical, immediate threat that is precisely Edward's.
- 50:55Point He argues that preaching about the realities of hell in a
- 50:58cold, indifferent manner is an act of contradiction of the
- 51:01message he returns to his earlier philosophy.
- 51:04Actions have a language. If a preacher's words say this
- 51:06Interstate is infinitely dreadful, but his behavior and
- 51:09his tone of voice contradict those words, showing he doesn't
- 51:12actually feel the weight of what he is saying, he defeats his own
- 51:14purpose. The congregation will invariably
- 51:17believe the tone over the words. They will sit in the Pew and
- 51:20think well. The minister says I am in danger
- 51:22of eternal torment, but he looks like he's reading a grocery
- 51:25list, so it must not be that big of a deal.
- 51:27I don't mean to panic. Edwards does add a necessary
- 51:30theological. Balance here deeply rooted in
- 51:33his Reformed understanding of salvation.
- 51:36He says the law only should not be preached.
- 51:39The main work of ministers is to preach the gospel of grace.
- 51:42Christ is the end of the law for righteousness.
- 51:45If a minister insists so much on the terrors of the law that he
- 51:49forgets his Lord and neglects to offer the gospel, he misses the
- 51:52mark entirely and leaves people in despair.
- 51:55But the sequence of the preaching is.
- 51:57Vital The Law is to be preached to make way for the gospel.
- 52:00The Law is the schoolmaster. He notes that the preaching of
- 52:03the gospel of grace is likely to be entirely in vain without
- 52:07first waking people up to the terrors of the Law.
- 52:09You cannot offer a cure to someone who does not believe
- 52:12they are sick. You cannot offer a pardon to a
- 52:14man who does not believe if he has committed a crime.
- 52:17He defends the earnestness, the loud.
- 52:19Volume and the intense affection in speaking is beautiful because
- 52:22it becomes the nature and weight of the subject.
- 52:25He acknowledges there can be indecent boisterousness, a
- 52:28preacher yelling just for the sake of yelling, where the
- 52:30matter and manner don't match or they're just putting on a
- 52:33theatrical show. But he staunchly defends the
- 52:36concept of frightening people, the polite critics of his day
- 52:39said. It is unreasonable to fright
- 52:41persons to heaven, and Edwards responds with brilliant.
- 52:44Clarity. I think it is a reasonable thing
- 52:46to endeavor to fright persons away from hell.
- 52:49They stand on it's very brink. They're completely senseless of
- 52:51their danger. The word fright is commonly used
- 52:54for sudden causeless fear, like a jump scare.
- 52:57But a just fear where there is good reason and massive danger
- 53:01should not be dismissed as a mere scare tactic.
- 53:04It is a rescue tactic. It is an incredibly sobering.
- 53:07Argument. It strips away all our modern
- 53:09cultural pretenses about how religion is supposed to look and
- 53:13sound. It demands that we align our
- 53:15emotional and physical response with the actual theological
- 53:19realities we claim to believe on paper.
- 53:21If we believe the creed, why do we act like it's just a polite
- 53:24social club? Which brings us to the
- 53:26culmination of. All these negative signs.
- 53:29Edwards has methodically dismantled the skeptical,
- 53:32rationalist framework of his critics.
- 53:35He has shown that a movement that is unusual, physically
- 53:38overwhelming, loud, messy, socially controversial, and
- 53:42driven by terrifyingly urgent preaching is completely
- 53:45compatible with human nature reacting to actual divine truth.
- 53:49Let's recap the main takeaways for the.
- 53:51Listener drawing this all together based on Edward's
- 53:53meticulous analysis, If you were looking at a genuine work of
- 53:56God's spirit in your own day, you should not dismiss it just
- 53:59because it is vastly unusual or breaks your traditional
- 54:02paradigms. You should not dismiss it
- 54:04because people are. Physically collapsing, trembling
- 54:07or crying out under the weight of conviction.
- 54:09You cannot dismiss it because it is.
- 54:10Publicly noisy, disruptive to society, or because participants
- 54:15have vivid, ecstatic imaginations as their brains try
- 54:18to process the glory of God. You cannot write it off as mere
- 54:21peer. Pressure.
- 54:22Just because it spreads socially through the visible example of
- 54:25others, you cannot dismiss it because it is.
- 54:26Undeniably messy, filled with imprudent behavior, chaotic
- 54:31meetings and zeal mixed heavily with human pride.
- 54:34You cannot dismiss it because. There are theological errors,
- 54:38people following delusions, or even prominent leaders and
- 54:41converts falling into moral scandals and counterfeits.
- 54:44And finally, you cannot dismiss it because.
- 54:46The preachers are intensely emotional, loud and driven by
- 54:50desperately urgent, terrifying warnings about the wrath of God.
- 54:53It is a massive paradigm shift. It forces us to completely
- 54:57reevaluate how we judge spiritual fruit, and it leaves
- 54:59us with a highly provocative thought to Mull over.
- 55:02I want you, the listener to look.
- 55:03Closely at your own an internal criteria for what constitutes
- 55:07acceptable or proper religion. Ask yourself an honest question.
- 55:11Are your standards actually based on the messy, chaotic,
- 55:14vibrant and dangerous reality presented in the pages of
- 55:17scripture? Or are your standards just based
- 55:20on your own cultural comfort zone, your desire for order and
- 55:23a preference for polite society? That is the real challenge
- 55:27Edwards poses. To every generation, if the
- 55:29Spirit of God swept through your city today, bringing loud
- 55:32crying, people fainting in the grocery store, Mass of public
- 55:35disruption and absolute terrifying urgency, would you
- 55:39have the biblical discernment to recognize it?
- 55:41Or would you be the first person to write a blog post rejecting
- 55:44it simply because it was too loud and broke your neat,
- 55:47orderly categories? We all like the idea of a clean
- 55:49X-ray. We want the binary neat lines
- 55:51that tell us exactly what is happening without any mess but
- 55:54the reality of a corrupt. Human soul colliding with the
- 55:58infinite glory and terror of a holy God is not a clean X-ray.
- 56:03It is an overwhelming biological, sociological and
- 56:07psychological short circuit. It is those diagnostic Muddy
- 56:10Waters we talked about at the very beginning of the hour and
- 56:13what Jonathan Edwards is telling us from.
- 56:15Across the centuries is this do not be afraid of the mud.
- 56:18The mud just means the living water is actually moving.
- 56:21A staggering way to look at it. Thank you for.
- 56:23Joining us for this deep dive. On reformed thinking, keep
- 56:26examining the text, keep challenging your own cultural
- 56:28assumptions, and we will see you next time.