Latest / Stugotz and Company / Santo Domingo Sal (w/ Sal Licata)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Yeah, that.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex. The rex was
- 0:06Speaker 2: not chasing the jeep. Murray, Murray, you there. You love sandwiches. Huh,
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- 0:13Speaker 3: He was bo.
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- 0:18Speaker 1: Betty Rubbell.
- 0:19Speaker 2: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went
- 0:22Speaker 2: to commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman was black.
- 0:25Speaker 1: He cast them the game last night, although they won
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- 0:38Speaker 1: Excited for this.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Taylor's got his dopey USA Baseball had on sala.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Is already laughing. He was making fun of him right
- 0:45Speaker 1: before we started because he.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Cannot believe how into the World Baseball Classic Tailor is.
- 0:51Speaker 1: It's amazing. I'm with you, sem Yeah.
- 0:53Speaker 4: Like I said, I was gonna be a little more
- 0:55Speaker 4: interested in it this year because I paid it no
- 0:56Speaker 4: mind in years past.
- 0:57Speaker 3: But all right, I'll check it out. It's competitive baseball.
- 1:00Speaker 3: Seem to care.
- 1:01Speaker 4: And then I hear Taylor talking about it on the
- 1:02Speaker 4: podcast on the radio show, and I'm like, oh, this
- 1:04Speaker 4: has to.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Be a bit.
- 1:05Speaker 4: Then he's telling me he's that these games it's the
- 1:07Speaker 4: loudest atmosphere ever.
- 1:08Speaker 3: It's great.
- 1:09Speaker 4: He's wearing full uniform on the podcast.
- 1:11Speaker 3: Now you're obsessed with it.
- 1:13Speaker 5: This is the exact problem that I have with Team USA,
- 1:17Speaker 5: where we got a couple of trek Schoogles here with
- 1:19Speaker 5: us that are like, oh, we don't really understand the
- 1:22Speaker 5: magnitude of this, And then what do you have over there?
- 1:24Speaker 5: The Dominican Republic's caring and the Dominican republics beating the
- 1:28Speaker 5: crap out of teams.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Yeah, they care about it in a way like they
- 1:32Speaker 2: could listen. The only one who cares about it as
- 1:34Speaker 2: much as the Dominican Republic is Taylor.
- 1:40Speaker 3: I mean, I just I just don't understand it.
- 1:41Speaker 4: Like for me, I have a hard time and I'm like,
- 1:44Speaker 4: I'm watching it a little.
- 1:45Speaker 3: More than usual. Okay, So I see Judge.
- 1:47Speaker 4: Make a great play and right field wow, or Judge
- 1:49Speaker 4: hit a home run wow, Like I've seen that a
- 1:51Speaker 4: million times before in games that actually matter. But even
- 1:54Speaker 4: though I'm like from the US and want to see
- 1:56Speaker 4: the US do well, like there's no chance I'm rooting
- 1:59Speaker 4: for Judge over Juan Soto, who plays for the team
- 2:03Speaker 4: that I root for, Like I'm rooting for Soto, I'm sorry.
- 2:05Speaker 4: I can't have the MED first Yankee thing and lose that,
- 2:07Speaker 4: whether it's US versus E or not. So like Taylor,
- 2:10Speaker 4: would you be more into US if Judge were playing
- 2:13Speaker 4: for another team, would be just as into it?
- 2:16Speaker 5: I think I would root for the US. But I'm
- 2:19Speaker 5: glad I don't have to face this situation because I
- 2:22Speaker 5: could see myself very easily if Aaron Judge was Colombian,
- 2:26Speaker 5: per se. I think I would be wearing a Colombian
- 2:29Speaker 5: hat right now.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Really, you would choose individual over country. What's the matter
- 2:34Speaker 1: with you? Both of you? Why? Yeah, the atmosphere, Well,
- 2:38Speaker 1: it's not.
- 2:38Speaker 4: It's not individual, it's the games that matter in baseball.
- 2:42Speaker 4: Like I love Wan Soto, I love the Mets. I
- 2:44Speaker 4: grew up rooting for the Mets. Soto's my guy, he's
- 2:46Speaker 4: our guys medfans. Why would I root for him to
- 2:49Speaker 4: lose to a Yankee, no, less in the in the
- 2:52Speaker 4: assuming that they play.
- 2:53Speaker 3: Each other in the finals with who the hell knows
- 2:55Speaker 3: if that could even happen. Because if Juan Soda wins
- 2:57Speaker 3: the WBC, you win.
- 2:59Speaker 1: Nothing, You get nothing. If you want.
- 3:01Speaker 3: Someta wins with the Mets, you get that pride, you
- 3:03Speaker 3: get that that's my team.
- 3:04Speaker 6: If one Someta wins with the dominion Dominican Republic, what
- 3:08Speaker 6: do you get?
- 3:09Speaker 2: You get like, hey, my guy did well for his country. No,
- 3:11Speaker 2: it's a totally fair point. Like I think the better question.
- 3:14Speaker 2: I think there's an obvious answer to this. Would you
- 3:17Speaker 2: rather have the Mets win a World Series? I think
- 3:19Speaker 2: the answer is yes, as opposed to Team USA winning
- 3:22Speaker 2: the World Baseball Classic, obviously you would want the Mets, right, Yeah,
- 3:27Speaker 2: And that.
- 3:27Speaker 4: To me, like, still, what does the winner of the
- 3:30Speaker 4: WBC even get? Like they talk about medals, like, no,
- 3:33Speaker 4: no gold medals happen in the Olympics, Like that's an
- 3:36Speaker 4: Olympic thing.
- 3:36Speaker 3: This is not the Olympics.
- 3:38Speaker 4: This is an exhibition, made up thing.
- 3:40Speaker 1: Yes, And I never.
- 3:42Speaker 4: Understood the aspect of the country. We know how good
- 3:45Speaker 4: the US is, Like just let's say Japan. Japan has
- 3:48Speaker 4: won three out of five of these things.
- 3:49Speaker 3: I looked it up. Okay, so they won three out
- 3:51Speaker 3: of five. Does that mean they're better than the US?
- 3:53Speaker 4: Like, no, we know where we staying with the US,
- 3:55Speaker 4: So why would we worry about some World Baseball Classic
- 3:59Speaker 4: which doesn't mean anything to value where the US is
- 4:02Speaker 4: in terms of baseball, where all the players from all
- 4:04Speaker 4: the country they want to be here and play in
- 4:06Speaker 4: Major League Baseball, which yes, to me, means more than
- 4:09Speaker 4: anything else.
- 4:10Speaker 1: You hate our country. I mean, that's what I'm here, Santa.
- 4:16Speaker 4: Hey.
- 4:17Speaker 6: Were you upset when Canada lost your Olympic gold medals?
- 4:22Speaker 3: Root for the US?
- 4:23Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, why.
- 4:26Speaker 4: Because I otherwise have no other rooting interro like it
- 4:28Speaker 4: just but I really didn't even care about that. I
- 4:30Speaker 4: care more about the Rangers. I'm sorry, kill me, but
- 4:33Speaker 4: I grew up rooting for teams that happen or teams
- 4:37Speaker 4: that play in the league's year, whether it's the NBA
- 4:40Speaker 4: with the Knicks with me or whatever it is in
- 4:42Speaker 4: the NFL or NHL or MLB that matters to me
- 4:45Speaker 4: more than Olympics ever did, or certainly the World Baseball Classic,
- 4:49Speaker 4: which is like a bad knockoff of the Olympics.
- 4:52Speaker 6: So if you're a Los Angeles Lakers fan, are you
- 4:54Speaker 6: rooting against the US and for I believe German Luca.
- 4:59Speaker 1: Where's Luca? Right?
- 5:00Speaker 2: Or if you're in LA and you're listen, if you're
- 5:02Speaker 2: in LA and you're born in the United States, or
- 5:04Speaker 2: you're rooting for Otani's team in the World Baseball Class.
- 5:07Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I get hey, all right, Jalen Brunson.
- 5:11Speaker 4: If Jalen Brunson was Canadian and he was playing for
- 5:14Speaker 4: Team Canada, you wouldn't want to root for him, Taylor being.
- 5:17Speaker 2: All now, oh, rut for Brunson when he plays for
- 5:21Speaker 2: the next and all root for Team USA when Team
- 5:23Speaker 2: USA is playing.
- 5:24Speaker 1: All right.
- 5:24Speaker 4: Let me ask you then, Stu, what do you get
- 5:26Speaker 4: like if you're rooting for Team USA, whether it's hockey, whatever,
- 5:28Speaker 4: or the World Baseball Class, Like, what you feel good
- 5:30Speaker 4: about that as a sports fan?
- 5:32Speaker 3: The team USA won?
- 5:33Speaker 1: What does that do? I mean? To be honest, No,
- 5:34Speaker 1: I don't give a shit. I mean, but I don't
- 5:40Speaker 1: feel worse if they lose. Yes I will, Stu. I
- 5:46Speaker 1: think I know what's going on here.
- 5:47Speaker 5: When it comes to Judge and Sodo, Yes, Sales Ego
- 5:52Speaker 5: cannot have anything positive happened to Aaron Judge and he
- 5:56Speaker 5: cannot have anything boost Aaron Judges legacy. The World Baseball Classic. Well,
- 6:02Speaker 5: would theoretically do that.
- 6:04Speaker 2: Yes, listen, what he wants Judge to do is save
- 6:06Speaker 2: the winning and save the home runs for the Yankees.
- 6:09Speaker 1: That's what he wants.
- 6:10Speaker 3: Well, that is you're kind of both right with this.
- 6:13Speaker 3: It's not gonna I don't.
- 6:15Speaker 4: Aaron Judge is the best baseball player that I've ever seen.
- 6:18Speaker 4: It used to be Barry Bonds. Aaron Judge a couple
- 6:20Speaker 4: of years ago, in my mind, surpassed that defensively leadership
- 6:23Speaker 4: what he's done.
- 6:24Speaker 3: Obviously, obviously you can't pitch the guy.
- 6:25Speaker 4: It's like he's playing softball amongst a man amongst boys
- 6:29Speaker 4: playing softball out there. But yes, from a met fan perspective,
- 6:33Speaker 4: maybe this is just unique to the Sodo Judge thing.
- 6:35Speaker 4: Soto left the Yankees to come to the Mets. The
- 6:37Speaker 4: narrative last year wasn't how great it was it was. Oh,
- 6:40Speaker 4: even Aaron Boone said it the other day, my guy
- 6:42Speaker 4: Booney talking about he still thinks Judge Soto misses the
- 6:46Speaker 4: Yankees more than the Yankees miss him enough. So from
- 6:48Speaker 4: a met fan perspective, yes, it drives me nuts that
- 6:51Speaker 4: the Yankees still, even though they lost the guy, that
- 6:53Speaker 4: they wanted to the Mets, which has never happened before.
- 6:56Speaker 4: Now it's well, Judge and Team USA potentially be so
- 7:01Speaker 4: head to head. I don't want that, So yes, I'm
- 7:03Speaker 4: putting that over my country.
- 7:05Speaker 6: Sorry, yeah, Taylor, this sounds like little brother syndrome. This
- 7:09Speaker 6: sounds like little brother syndrome.
- 7:10Speaker 1: This is like, no, you can't win. I want to win.
- 7:13Speaker 1: We don't miss you.
- 7:15Speaker 5: So if it's a Mets, if it becomes a Mets
- 7:17Speaker 5: Yankee thing. So what if in the final again, I
- 7:21Speaker 5: don't know the bracket either. If Dominican Republic is playing
- 7:24Speaker 5: US in the final, the starter for the final is
- 7:29Speaker 5: slated to be Nolan McClain from the Mets. What if
- 7:33Speaker 5: it's Nolan McClain VERSU One Sodo going up to bat
- 7:36Speaker 5: Who are you rooting for?
- 7:38Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Sono.
- 7:39Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Soto's my guy. I won't want side of it.
- 7:43Speaker 4: I like McClain, but I think there are certain guys
- 7:46Speaker 4: that even Trump just the fandom, like, yeah, mcclean's a Met,
- 7:48Speaker 4: that's great, Okay, good for him.
- 7:49Speaker 3: I hope he had success. No, I'm rooted. Soto's my guy.
- 7:51Speaker 3: I'm all in on Soto.
- 7:53Speaker 4: I want to see him have fun, which maybe leads
- 7:55Speaker 4: to him having more fun with the Mets, which maybe
- 7:57Speaker 4: leads to them winning a first World Series for the
- 7:58Speaker 4: first time in forty years.
- 8:00Speaker 5: So what if Soto in this first inning hits a
- 8:02Speaker 5: home run against Nolan McClain, and Nolan McClain never recovers
- 8:06Speaker 5: from it.
- 8:07Speaker 1: I mean obviously that they'll deal with that when he
- 8:10Speaker 1: gets to it. I mean, he hasn't thought that far ahead, Taylor. Now.
- 8:19Speaker 4: I guess my question to you, though, Taylor, would be,
- 8:21Speaker 4: what if McClain goes out there and you want to
- 8:24Speaker 4: see him pitch and win a championship for team? You
- 8:26Speaker 4: would say, you'll get to root for a met with
- 8:28Speaker 4: no issues whatsoever, even though the Met fans can then say, well, yeah,
- 8:31Speaker 4: of course we had the guy that brought home the
- 8:33Speaker 4: US Gold or whatever it is that they get.
- 8:35Speaker 3: I'll be rooting for a perfect game.
- 8:37Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 8:39Speaker 6: I cheered when Roman Anthony hit a three run home run.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Yes, he's a Red Sox.
- 8:42Speaker 3: That's a little too far, I cheered, what do you
- 8:44Speaker 3: have a little too far?
- 8:45Speaker 1: And family? What are you talking about, Taylor? You know
- 8:49Speaker 1: that I was rooting for a single.
- 8:53Speaker 4: A Red Sox fans rooting for Judge. I think it's
- 8:55Speaker 4: a great question Yankee fans, who gotta root for Red Sox?
- 8:57Speaker 4: I mean, come on, not to mention that the tournament
- 8:59Speaker 4: Taylor we kind of brush over it, but Tarrek school
- 9:02Speaker 4: was one of the best, but he decides to leave.
- 9:04Speaker 3: So what does this really mean.
- 9:05Speaker 4: I'm supposed to put investment and feelings into this thing
- 9:07Speaker 4: that the players do care about, but not enough to
- 9:10Speaker 4: have to stay with it.
- 9:11Speaker 6: I mean, come on, play Devil's Advocate a little bit.
- 9:15Speaker 6: Roman Anthony hasn't really become the Red Sox yet, so
- 9:18Speaker 6: it's kind of like he's peripheria Red Sox. Like it's
- 9:21Speaker 6: not David Ortiz where I already hate you. I don't
- 9:23Speaker 6: already hate Roman Anthony.
- 9:25Speaker 1: That he's going to be the best player in Major
- 9:27Speaker 1: League I'm quite well aware. But until he becomes that
- 9:29Speaker 1: player for the.
- 9:30Speaker 6: Red Sox, hey go TUSA, all right.
- 9:33Speaker 5: Entering the ninth inning, when Garrett Whitlock came in the
- 9:36Speaker 5: Red Sox reliever sal I have to admit it did
- 9:41Speaker 5: cross my mind. It wouldn't be the worst thing if
- 9:42Speaker 5: Garrett Whitlock was the one that blew this game.
- 9:45Speaker 3: Say say, that's exactly my point.
- 9:47Speaker 4: Hey, it's not our fault. It's not that we're not
- 9:50Speaker 4: patriotic enough. It's that it's inherent in US as sports fans.
- 9:54Speaker 4: Like I I'm sorry, I've hated the Yankees for thirty
- 9:57Speaker 4: five years.
- 9:57Speaker 3: Roughly.
- 9:58Speaker 4: There's some Team USA made up tournament is not gonna
- 10:01Speaker 4: trump my hatred for the Yankees for the last thirty
- 10:03Speaker 4: five years.
- 10:04Speaker 3: Same thing with you.
- 10:04Speaker 4: How long you've been hating the Red Sox. It's a
- 10:06Speaker 4: part of our lives, It's a part of our fandom
- 10:08Speaker 4: and fabric.
- 10:10Speaker 1: I have some Poulp questions here, Taylor.
- 10:12Speaker 2: Is the WBC a cheap ripoff of the Olympics, a
- 10:16Speaker 2: knockoff of the Olympics and Yankee fans? This is just
- 10:22Speaker 2: for Yankee fans. Does your hatred of the Red Sox
- 10:25Speaker 2: override your love of the United States of America?
- 10:30Speaker 1: No, my stude.
- 10:33Speaker 4: My thing is this because you're like, it is crazy
- 10:35Speaker 4: to even think about that. And I know that if
- 10:37Speaker 4: I say I want Soto to beat US, Okay, you're
- 10:40Speaker 4: not patriotic, but but why since when does sports matter
- 10:45Speaker 4: of what you? I know that it's supposed to be.
- 10:47Speaker 3: Well, you're from New York, so the New York teams
- 10:49Speaker 3: represent your fandom.
- 10:50Speaker 4: It just doesn't happen that way. We're fans of all
- 10:52Speaker 4: over teams from all over the place, So why does
- 10:56Speaker 4: why should our patriotism be judge based on our sports?
- 11:00Speaker 3: I don't like that the two have intertwined.
- 11:03Speaker 6: The entire European soccer system is set up like this. Oh,
- 11:07Speaker 6: he plays for my team, but he's French, so when
- 11:09Speaker 6: he goes to play for them, then he's my enemy.
- 11:11Speaker 6: It's like it's it's this is a US thing that
- 11:14Speaker 6: we're just trying to learn how to do that. I
- 11:16Speaker 6: feel like Europe they figured it out already. Yeah yeah,
- 11:19Speaker 6: I mean, but Sala's right.
- 11:20Speaker 2: Patriot is it doesn't really unless it's hockey, Like no one.
- 11:24Speaker 1: Really cares, you know, no one cares. Hockey is the
- 11:27Speaker 1: only place we can Why why why? I mean, listen,
- 11:31Speaker 1: you just plasted Roman Anthony. I mean I hit a
- 11:34Speaker 1: three run monster for you last night. Well, hockey for
- 11:38Speaker 1: me us.
- 11:39Speaker 4: I can't answer anybody else, Yeah right, I can't answer
- 11:42Speaker 4: anybody else.
- 11:42Speaker 3: But the nineteen eighty thing that was that was patriotic.
- 11:47Speaker 1: We like there was a reason for that. A.
- 11:49Speaker 3: It was the Olympics.
- 11:50Speaker 4: B it was beating the mighty Russian team that never
- 11:53Speaker 4: lost with an underdog USA team war well exactly, I
- 11:58Speaker 4: was gonna get to that, but yeah, right, Rocky if
- 12:00Speaker 4: I could change and you could say Rocky, so there
- 12:03Speaker 4: was a Cold War, like it was actually a real thing.
- 12:06Speaker 4: But since then it's like it's just not the case
- 12:09Speaker 4: for me. So I think it stems though the hockey.
- 12:12Speaker 4: Why we maybe associate that more is because of what
- 12:14Speaker 4: happened in nineteen eighty.
- 12:15Speaker 1: Taylor put this on the pall the sal hate the
- 12:17Speaker 1: good old US of A. It's a big old yes
- 12:22Speaker 1: for me, go to US. I mean, come on, I
- 12:29Speaker 1: don't know.
- 12:30Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can't believe tailor roots for certain people
- 12:33Speaker 2: on Team USA.
- 12:34Speaker 1: It's a red he draws the line at red Sox.
- 12:37Speaker 1: It's a little roof former don'ts that's true?
- 12:39Speaker 3: At least I'm not faking it. He's a fraud.
- 12:41Speaker 4: He's wearing the USA hat and saying, you know what,
- 12:44Speaker 4: if we're luck blew the game, it wouldn't be the
- 12:46Speaker 4: worst thing.
- 12:47Speaker 1: Yes, right, it doesn't care that much, just enough to
- 12:53Speaker 1: wear a USA. I'll tell you one.
- 12:56Speaker 7: More's a nice hat though, Yeah, straight hat. Get Trek
- 13:01Speaker 7: Scuble out of that dugout. He's talking about he wants
- 13:04Speaker 7: to come back in the semifinals. He wants to come
- 13:06Speaker 7: back in the finals, just to hang around the team
- 13:08Speaker 7: and be in Miami if they win. He also said
- 13:12Speaker 7: he'll be the first to sign up for the twenty
- 13:14Speaker 7: eight Olympics or whenever. The next World Baseball Classic is
- 13:17Speaker 7: trader get tarreka, Google out of here, go.
- 13:21Speaker 2: Pitch for the Dominican so South can root for you.
- 13:25Speaker 2: I guarantee you he's rooting for Roman Anthony, though.
- 13:28Speaker 1: I mean, Jesus, I.
- 13:30Speaker 4: Respect him more for prioritizing what he should prioritize his team.
- 13:34Speaker 4: That's paying him himself, trying to get a big contract,
- 13:36Speaker 4: like that's what it should be. And by the way
- 13:38Speaker 4: you talk about, well he'll come back and want to
- 13:39Speaker 4: play again, stude, did you know? Because I did not
- 13:41Speaker 4: know this happen to stumble across it over the weekend,
- 13:44Speaker 4: no one. Aronaudo's at the dish for Team Puerto Rico
- 13:47Speaker 4: or PR, whatever you want.
- 13:47Speaker 1: To call it.
- 13:48Speaker 4: And you know it's like, well, this is Aeronauto's third
- 13:50Speaker 4: Baseball Classic, his first with Team PR.
- 13:53Speaker 3: And I'm like wait a second, like which team are
- 13:57Speaker 3: you on?
- 13:57Speaker 4: You could change teams in the W You see, this
- 14:00Speaker 4: is not the Mets in Cardinals or Rockies or Yankee
- 14:03Speaker 4: Like this is You're supposed to be representing your country, right,
- 14:06Speaker 4: I thought, that's the point of this. So Aeronaudo he
- 14:08Speaker 4: plays for Team USA for the first two go rounds
- 14:10Speaker 4: and then he can't make that team, so he joins
- 14:12Speaker 4: the Puerto Rican team.
- 14:13Speaker 1: Like that, how is that possible?
- 14:15Speaker 3: Who's representing?
- 14:17Speaker 1: No, I'm with you, it seems it doesn't seem to
- 14:19Speaker 1: make sense. It shouldn't It shouldn't be allowed.
- 14:21Speaker 2: But again, no one fucking cares about this thing except
- 14:23Speaker 2: for Tailorman the Dominican Republic.
- 14:24Speaker 5: I mean, so, Aeronauto was on Team USA. But I
- 14:29Speaker 5: think what happened was he knew he was not going
- 14:31Speaker 5: to get called for this team, so he was like,
- 14:33Speaker 5: where do I have options? Oh, somebody in my family
- 14:37Speaker 5: is of Puerto Rican descent. I'm gonna play there. If
- 14:40Speaker 5: for some reason, Austin Wells becomes the next best catcher
- 14:44Speaker 5: in the next three years, I got news for him.
- 14:47Speaker 5: He's playing for Team USA next time.
- 14:49Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 14:50Speaker 2: But once you declare yourself for one country, that's it.
- 14:52Speaker 2: That's the country you need to make the team. And
- 14:54Speaker 2: you don't make the team, you don't.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Get to hop around. That's not how sports works.
- 14:57Speaker 4: I mean, come on, right, especially, like the whole point
- 15:00Speaker 4: is just supposed to be representing your country, not just
- 15:02Speaker 4: playing to play. So like in ten years from now,
- 15:05Speaker 4: Judge can't make Team USA, He's gonna go play on
- 15:08Speaker 4: another team because of the heritage, and I'm using him.
- 15:11Speaker 3: I mean, that's absurd.
- 15:13Speaker 1: I don't think that is. I don't think Judge has
- 15:16Speaker 1: options though. Am I gonna jump over to Team Australia?
- 15:23Speaker 5: My dad was born and raised in Italy. If the
- 15:25Speaker 5: Italian team wants to reach out to me, so I've
- 15:29Speaker 5: told them before. One of the best defensive fielders my
- 15:32Speaker 5: high school program has ever seen, Francisco Savelli.
- 15:36Speaker 1: My line is open.
- 15:37Speaker 3: He's the manager of Team Ittawa.
- 15:40Speaker 1: Your line's open. Huh.
- 15:43Speaker 3: They probably could use it. Yeah, that's the thing.
- 15:45Speaker 4: Like, okay, great, my parents are from or not my parents,
- 15:47Speaker 4: but like my heritage is from Italy. So which am
- 15:50Speaker 4: i am? I? Team Italy or Team USA? I guess
- 15:52Speaker 4: I could play from bold Technically, does that make me
- 15:55Speaker 4: a bad Italian because I want to play for US?
- 15:57Speaker 4: Or am I a bad American because I would play
- 15:58Speaker 4: for my heritage with it.
- 15:59Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense to me.
- 16:01Speaker 6: Depends plays, I guess for you, that's correct.
- 16:04Speaker 3: I'm dr I get herited in Italy.
- 16:06Speaker 1: I'm from US and I'm root for the dr Yes,
- 16:10Speaker 1: oh my god, so funny. By the way, here's the
- 16:12Speaker 1: funny thing about this entire conversation. Because Sal's love for
- 16:15Speaker 1: one Soda.
- 16:16Speaker 2: Sala is gonna be the first person to rip one
- 16:19Speaker 2: Soda if he gets off to a terrible story after
- 16:22Speaker 2: the first month of the season.
- 16:23Speaker 1: He doesn't shimmy.
- 16:25Speaker 4: Actually too, you guys, you and Dan got on me
- 16:29Speaker 4: for a clip that I was ripping Sodo. It just
- 16:30Speaker 4: so happened though that he was with the Yankees. That
- 16:32Speaker 4: was one of the things where you guys, I was
- 16:34Speaker 4: getting on him, like, look, if he takes these walks,
- 16:36Speaker 4: he's here to swig, he's here to do damage, and
- 16:37Speaker 4: he was taking walks. So yeah, it's not above me
- 16:40Speaker 4: ripping Sodo, but just ironic that I remember, you guys
- 16:42Speaker 4: ripped me for Sodo. Since he'd become a met he's
- 16:45Speaker 4: been he's been untouchable for now. The only way I
- 16:47Speaker 4: rip him is if he fails in the postseason. That
- 16:49Speaker 4: will be it with Sodo Sala. What'd you make of?
- 16:52Speaker 1: What'd you make of everything that transpired yesterday in the NFL?
- 16:56Speaker 1: Do you enjoy that day? Is that a day that's
- 16:57Speaker 1: enjoyable to you?
- 16:59Speaker 3: M I don't know, because I think there are too many.
- 17:01Speaker 4: I think it's too much happening, and it's because of
- 17:04Speaker 4: that way, because of the salary cap structure. So you
- 17:06Speaker 4: have good players getting caught and then signing all with
- 17:08Speaker 4: other teams. Okay, it's fun action for a day or two.
- 17:11Speaker 1: It's chaos.
- 17:12Speaker 3: It's fun to keep up with it and the updates.
- 17:13Speaker 4: On your phone, But really you build a team through
- 17:16Speaker 4: the draft, so that's more important obviously, and I just
- 17:19Speaker 4: think a lot gets lost in the chaos. Too many
- 17:22Speaker 4: mid level type moves. I thought the best signing of
- 17:25Speaker 4: the day was the Giants signing the punter. They get
- 17:27Speaker 4: the best punter in the league away from the Ravens,
- 17:29Speaker 4: so I thought that was a big move.
- 17:31Speaker 3: But nobody talks about that.
- 17:31Speaker 4: It's all about the quarterbacks and wide receivers. Yeah, I mean,
- 17:34Speaker 4: it's a fun day for sport. It's a fun week
- 17:36Speaker 4: with the NFL chaos with free agency.
- 17:38Speaker 5: So how do you feel about the your Falcons. You
- 17:41Speaker 5: got a new quarterback, one that we're very familiar with
- 17:44Speaker 5: here down in South Florida that people basically celebrated his release,
- 17:49Speaker 5: and now he's seemingly to be your next quarterback.
- 17:53Speaker 4: Okay, well, I mean they still have Penis. Penix is
- 17:56Speaker 4: going to be the future. I wanted the Jets to
- 17:58Speaker 4: go after too.
- 17:59Speaker 1: First.
- 17:59Speaker 4: I want Jets to get a real quarterback, just so
- 18:01Speaker 4: we could watch competitive football in New York, you know,
- 18:03Speaker 4: the Giants, whatever.
- 18:04Speaker 3: But the Jets need a quarterback.
- 18:05Speaker 4: So I was looking at Kyler Murray, Malik Willis, and
- 18:08Speaker 4: Tua would have been third on my list. So if
- 18:10Speaker 4: that were the case going into free agency, I didn't
- 18:12Speaker 4: think he was gonna be a fit with the Falcons,
- 18:13Speaker 4: but it does make sense. Remember, you're not paying like
- 18:15Speaker 4: Miami's perspective is totally different. They needed to cut bait
- 18:18Speaker 4: and take a ridiculous cap hit to do so because
- 18:21Speaker 4: he clearly is not the future quarterback for that franchise.
- 18:24Speaker 4: So they instead get Willis. Okay, we'll see how that
- 18:26Speaker 4: works out. But now whoever gets Tua, they're getting him
- 18:29Speaker 4: for nothing, and you're getting a guy who's gonna be hungry, motivated,
- 18:33Speaker 4: whether he could be a backup, get some opportunities to
- 18:35Speaker 4: start whatever. So I think Atlanta made a smart move
- 18:37Speaker 4: here in the case that Penix isn't ready or still
- 18:39Speaker 4: needs time to develop. You have a veteran quarterback. Not
- 18:42Speaker 4: to mention another lefty, I mean, what does that mean
- 18:44Speaker 4: to lefty quarterbacks?
- 18:45Speaker 1: Whatever?
- 18:45Speaker 3: Maybe there's something the way that they could teach, help
- 18:48Speaker 3: teach Penix a little bit.
- 18:49Speaker 4: But they like Tua and his veteran leadership, and I
- 18:52Speaker 4: think it's for you're not paying him anything and the
- 18:55Speaker 4: guy can have some success. Tell me this, if you're
- 18:57Speaker 4: the idiot Jets, would you rather have Tua this year?
- 19:00Speaker 4: Or would you rather have Geno Smith and Carson Wentz?
- 19:03Speaker 4: Who are the two guys that they're talking about? So?
- 19:05Speaker 2: Well, yeah, my fear is too might win you just
- 19:08Speaker 2: you know too of many games. You know, he might
- 19:10Speaker 2: win your seven, you know, seven or eight games. And
- 19:13Speaker 2: I want to be bad and I want to be
- 19:14Speaker 2: really bad, you know?
- 19:16Speaker 3: But are they are they?
- 19:17Speaker 4: And then the moves the Jets made yesterday they trained
- 19:19Speaker 4: for mickon fitz micking Fitzpatrick that would and not to
- 19:22Speaker 4: mention signing Tomorio Davis as well some other moves like
- 19:24Speaker 4: they're trying to build a team that's going to be
- 19:26Speaker 4: a somewhat competitive team because at some point they have
- 19:29Speaker 4: to start winning some games.
- 19:31Speaker 1: Sure, is it a full tank?
- 19:32Speaker 3: Are they really trying to really tank? I don't know
- 19:34Speaker 3: if that's gonna be the case.
- 19:35Speaker 4: And then for what for the hope that you're gonna
- 19:37Speaker 4: get arch Manning, as if he would ever come to
- 19:39Speaker 4: the Jets, Like.
- 19:40Speaker 1: Come on, the Mannings aren't gonna stop.
- 19:44Speaker 6: That, right, So it's funny because you were talking about
- 19:49Speaker 6: to and you said veteran leadership.
- 19:51Speaker 3: Correct me if I'm wrong, But isn't that kind of
- 19:53Speaker 3: one of.
- 19:54Speaker 6: The biggest knocks against him is everybody was like, oh,
- 19:56Speaker 6: shut up whenever he tried to do some time.
- 19:58Speaker 1: He was a captain for that team for four seasons,
- 20:00Speaker 1: I believe, yeah.
- 20:01Speaker 3: But apparently they nobody respected him.
- 20:04Speaker 1: They put him as the captain because he's the quarterback. Well, no,
- 20:06Speaker 1: but when the play doesn't follow the leadership, it becomes dicey.
- 20:09Speaker 1: And that's the problem.
- 20:10Speaker 2: Like the year he was the captain and he was
- 20:12Speaker 2: playing well and led the NFL in everyone was listening. Yes,
- 20:16Speaker 2: second it went the other way, No one paid attention.
- 20:19Speaker 3: Right, But also they're not paying him anything, and he's
- 20:22Speaker 3: not right.
- 20:23Speaker 4: He's not the future quarterball right, So what's the worst
- 20:26Speaker 4: that could happen with Atlanta to a start, some it's
- 20:28Speaker 4: not gonna be worse than Kirk Cousins.
- 20:30Speaker 1: Was the South down here. He is overpaid.
- 20:32Speaker 2: The Dolphins made a colossal mistake and they cut bait
- 20:35Speaker 2: anywhere else.
- 20:36Speaker 1: He's a bargain. He is a bargain by NFL standards.
- 20:39Speaker 4: Bingo, which is why the Jets should have been a
- 20:41Speaker 4: top the list to try to get him.
- 20:42Speaker 3: I don't even know if he would have gone to
- 20:44Speaker 3: the Jets because he looked at but but he would
- 20:46Speaker 3: look at that situation like I can't go.
- 20:47Speaker 4: I'm not going there and being asked to win games
- 20:49Speaker 4: maybe outside door, you know, outdoors, eron Glenn whatever. I
- 20:52Speaker 4: think it's a perfect situation for both Atlanta and for Tool.
- 20:55Speaker 3: But yes, he's a bargain. You say, no, thanks, Mike.
- 20:57Speaker 1: Who do you want?
- 20:59Speaker 3: Who do you want an under center for the Jets
- 21:01Speaker 3: this year? Who do you want to watch?
- 21:04Speaker 1: Jakobe Brissette? Well, he wants to be bad. I mean, listen,
- 21:09Speaker 1: what is the goal would be Jets in twenty twenty six?
- 21:11Speaker 6: What is the goal it is to get you want
- 21:14Speaker 6: to call it arch Manning, it's there's four or five
- 21:17Speaker 6: guys that could be your quarterback of the future. Is
- 21:20Speaker 6: in next year's draft, your goal with three first round
- 21:23Speaker 6: picks should be that's our goal.
- 21:26Speaker 5: Now.
- 21:27Speaker 6: The only thing you have to do with twenty twenty
- 21:29Speaker 6: six is build a team that can bring in a
- 21:31Speaker 6: guy and he can succeed.
- 21:34Speaker 3: I think they're doing a fantastic job of that.
- 21:37Speaker 4: But then what if they're so bad that they have
- 21:39Speaker 4: to fire Aaron Glenn and now why But now you're
- 21:42Speaker 4: starting over again? Like the here's the good thing for you,
- 21:45Speaker 4: mike Y. You know the Jet fans who feel the
- 21:46Speaker 4: same way, Losing won't be a problem. Like that's the
- 21:49Speaker 4: one thing the Jets of excel.
- 21:50Speaker 1: We're used to it.
- 21:51Speaker 2: What do you mean, we're so good at us right?
- 21:53Speaker 2: But I don't know how to react if they win.
- 21:56Speaker 2: That's the thing that's going to be the problem.
- 21:58Speaker 3: I don't know what to do with my hands when
- 21:59Speaker 3: they win.
- 22:00Speaker 4: Wouldn't you want to get out of that at some
- 22:01Speaker 4: point and build a competitive team like Kyler Murray to
- 22:04Speaker 4: mean will give them a chance to at least be
- 22:05Speaker 4: competitive and also still have your eye on the quarterback
- 22:08Speaker 4: class next year.
- 22:09Speaker 2: I Mikey, I will say this before you give the
- 22:12Speaker 2: you know, before before you give the patent Jets answer,
- 22:16Speaker 2: I will say this, the NFL seems to be shifting
- 22:18Speaker 2: a little bit when you think about none of those
- 22:21Speaker 2: big time quarterbacks were in the final four last year.
- 22:24Speaker 2: I mean it was Drake May, it was Sam Donald,
- 22:27Speaker 2: it was bow Knicks. Just having a good quarterback is
- 22:31Speaker 2: good as long as just a round up with the
- 22:32Speaker 2: right pieces is good enough to win a super Bowl
- 22:35Speaker 2: in the NFL.
- 22:36Speaker 1: Sam Donald just proved it, you know.
- 22:38Speaker 3: Exactly, So if Sam Donald can win a super Bowl.
- 22:40Speaker 4: And also the idea of like, okay, well, Jackson Dark,
- 22:43Speaker 4: oh he's the next great?
- 22:44Speaker 1: How do we know?
- 22:45Speaker 3: How do we know what Jackson like?
- 22:46Speaker 4: You just don't know year to year or even even
- 22:49Speaker 4: worse than Jackson Dart who actually did prove he could
- 22:51Speaker 4: have some success at the NFL level. The hope of, well,
- 22:54Speaker 4: next year's draft class, next year's draft class, like oh
- 22:58Speaker 4: oh yeah, yeah, Arch Manning is gonna be you stared.
- 23:00Speaker 4: And Dante Moore, assuming he does want to come out
- 23:03Speaker 4: and assuming the Jets do, you have the chance to
- 23:04Speaker 4: take him, like he's a gonna want to come to
- 23:06Speaker 4: the Jets. What you already proved he didn't want to be.
- 23:08Speaker 4: He's gonna come here and be the savior like that.
- 23:10Speaker 4: It already has proven. It has not worked. You need
- 23:15Speaker 4: to build a team the right way inside out, build
- 23:18Speaker 4: a foundation, and then hope to bring in a quarterback
- 23:21Speaker 4: that could potentially get you over the top. But if
- 23:22Speaker 4: Sam Darnold could win at Super Bowl, then maybe we're a.
- 23:25Speaker 3: Little too hung up on the quarterbacks being the be
- 23:28Speaker 3: all end all.
- 23:29Speaker 5: I still can't get over South saying the best move
- 23:31Speaker 5: yesterday was the giant side of Hunter.
- 23:35Speaker 3: I already forgot the best, but I already forgot his name.
- 23:40Speaker 1: But who cares?
- 23:41Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, because yesterday it was a bunch of moves,
- 23:43Speaker 2: Like I have no idea. You're in Indianapolis. You can't
- 23:46Speaker 2: walk around confidently saying, hey, we got better today.
- 23:48Speaker 1: You don't know.
- 23:50Speaker 4: But that's kind of my point about the excitement question.
- 23:53Speaker 4: I think it is fun, right, the fury.
- 23:54Speaker 3: Of moves, But it's all like transactions.
- 23:57Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yeah, this third linebacker, this guy's a special team.
- 24:00Speaker 4: But when you signed definitively first team, will pro punter
- 24:03Speaker 4: whether I know his name or not, it doesn't matter.
- 24:05Speaker 4: He was the best punter in the league a year ago.
- 24:07Speaker 4: Also Hardball special teams guy. Also the Giant Special Teams
- 24:10Speaker 4: has been a train wreck for years.
- 24:12Speaker 3: That shows you at least.
- 24:13Speaker 4: They'll look at it and say, hey, this is gonna
- 24:15Speaker 4: help us compete and win some more football games. Nobody
- 24:18Speaker 4: gets you know, it's not a sexy move, but it's
- 24:21Speaker 4: a smart football move.
- 24:22Speaker 3: I think that was the best signing yesterday.
- 24:24Speaker 2: The Salakata Show. Check it out wherever you get your podcast.
- 24:27Speaker 2: This is why he can't go on vacation. Do you
- 24:29Speaker 2: understand like this was the problem when we talked to
- 24:31Speaker 2: him last week coming off vacation.
- 24:33Speaker 1: His poor wife, He has all this bottled up.
- 24:35Speaker 2: Rage and he needs to get it out, and his
- 24:38Speaker 2: wife doesn't want to hear about it, and so.
- 24:42Speaker 1: I feel so much terrible for her.
- 24:44Speaker 3: I feel much better. Well, God, you don't even know
- 24:46Speaker 3: the half of it. Yes, it's been it's been rough.
- 24:48Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel better now that you're behind the microphone.
- 24:50Speaker 1: I mean I do.
- 24:50Speaker 4: I feel better being back in the mix, getting off
- 24:53Speaker 4: the vacation for a week, which was not really a vacation.
- 24:56Speaker 3: Uh, you try to make her happy. And then did
- 24:58Speaker 3: I tell you the story, Like midway through the vacation,
- 25:00Speaker 3: it was supposed to be for the birthday. She's like,
- 25:01Speaker 3: this isn't my birthday. There's no no plan. Like, I mean,
- 25:04Speaker 3: you could you never win that way.
- 25:05Speaker 4: So now I feel good at least I'm winning now,
- 25:08Speaker 4: back at work, having fun, talking up with you guys,
- 25:10Speaker 4: talking sports, getting it out of my system.
- 25:12Speaker 3: That's what makes me feel good.
- 25:13Speaker 1: Yes, let me explain something to you. She's always winning.
- 25:16Speaker 1: You might not know it. She's just she's doing something
- 25:18Speaker 1: right now when she's winning.
- 25:19Speaker 3: Okay, it's been rough, you know. You getting let go
- 25:26Speaker 3: from the job. That didn't help either.
- 25:28Speaker 4: And that's even when I was what I had multiple jobs,
- 25:31Speaker 4: things were a little shaky without that job.
- 25:33Speaker 3: It's oh, pressures on.
- 25:34Speaker 2: Yes, we were supposed to soften you up, man, I
- 25:36Speaker 2: mean you came just guns firing today.
- 25:41Speaker 1: You hate the United States. I mean, Jesus right.
- 25:45Speaker 4: I was gonna say there's a lot of sports going on,
- 25:46Speaker 4: but really we're talking about NFL free agency at the WBC.
- 25:50Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go d R