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- 0:01Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, I want to invite you to listen to
- 0:04Speaker 1: a special preview of a brand new true crime podcast
- 0:08Speaker 1: that I think you'll really enjoy. It's called Below the
- 0:11Speaker 1: Surface from Abjack Entertainment, the team that brought you DNAID
- 0:17Speaker 1: Campus Killings, Missing Persons, the Murder in My Family and more.
- 0:23Speaker 1: It's hosted by established Australian podcaster Olivia Mackenzie, co host
- 0:28Speaker 1: of True Crime Society. In every episode of Below the Surface,
- 0:34Speaker 1: you'll hear about a new fascinating case with one common
- 0:37Speaker 1: theme a water connection. In this preview of episode one,
- 0:43Speaker 1: you'll hear about the mysterious case of Kim Wall, a
- 0:47Speaker 1: journalist who went for a ride as a guest on
- 0:50Speaker 1: a submarine and was never seen again. You can listen
- 0:54Speaker 1: to episode one Kim Wall in its entirety right now.
- 0:59Speaker 1: Just search for Below the Surface on your favorite podcast
- 1:03Speaker 1: player or app. If you like the show, you can
- 1:07Speaker 1: also listen to episode two, which is out now. Will
- 1:10Speaker 1: include links and info for Below the Surface and the
- 1:14Speaker 1: show notes. Here's the clip and thanks for listening.
- 1:18Speaker 2: Thank you for checking out this special preview of Below
- 1:20Speaker 2: the Surface, the new podcast from Abjac Entertainment that brings
- 1:24Speaker 2: you fascinating cases with the water connection. I'm your host, Olivia.
- 1:29Speaker 2: I'd like to play this short preview few of episode one.
- 1:32Speaker 2: Today I'll be unpacking the case of journalist Kim Wall,
- 1:35Speaker 2: best known for her articles in The Guardian, The New
- 1:38Speaker 2: York Times and Vice. The journalist disappeared in a submarine
- 1:41Speaker 2: beneath the Orison straight after interviewing inventor Peter Madson on
- 1:45Speaker 2: August tenh twenty seventeen. We can only speculate what exactly
- 1:50Speaker 2: happened below the surface, but upon the submarine's resurface, Kim
- 1:54Speaker 2: was missing and Peter Madsen was not. To listen to
- 1:57Speaker 2: the full episode, search for Below the Surface on your
- 2:00Speaker 2: favorite podcast app. You'll also be able to check out
- 2:03Speaker 2: episode two, which is out now as well. Be sure
- 2:06Speaker 2: to subscribe to Blow the Surface so that you don't
- 2:08Speaker 2: miss a single episode. Thank you for listening. Let's dive in.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Born in nineteen eighty seven, Kim Wore grew up with
- 2:16Speaker 2: her parents and her older brother Tom in the tiny
- 2:19Speaker 2: town of Trella Bori in the south of Sweden. Her parents,
- 2:23Speaker 2: Ingrid and Joachim were both journalists, Ingrid in finance and
- 2:26Speaker 2: economics and Joachim in photography. Their children's lives are filled
- 2:31Speaker 2: with newspapers every morning as the family ate breakfast. Kim
- 2:36Speaker 2: often accompanied her mother to interviews and assignments as a child,
- 2:39Speaker 2: so nobody in the family was surprised when Kim announced
- 2:42Speaker 2: that she wanted to be a journalist someday too, but
- 2:45Speaker 2: not the kind that her parents were. She wanted to
- 2:48Speaker 2: go places and write stories about the people. Nobody else
- 2:51Speaker 2: bothered to pose questions too. As a teenager, Kim's family
- 2:56Speaker 2: and friends described her as extremely driven and very impressive.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Nothing stopped her, and even after she met her goals,
- 3:03Speaker 2: she simply moved on to new ones. She never took
- 3:05Speaker 2: time to sit on her laurels. After high school, Kim
- 3:09Speaker 2: studied at the London School of Economics before getting her
- 3:12Speaker 2: masters from the prestigious School of Journalism at Columbia University,
- 3:16Speaker 2: where she graduated with honors at the top of her class.
- 3:20Speaker 2: In the years after Kim obtained her masters, finding work
- 3:23Speaker 2: with particular network or company proved almost impossible, as most
- 3:27Speaker 2: reporting networks were no longer hiring full time journalists. Instead,
- 3:31Speaker 2: these companies searched for freelancers who had already written articles
- 3:35Speaker 2: and paid them for their rights to publish their stories.
- 3:39Speaker 2: While this wasn't the most financially stable life, it worked
- 3:42Speaker 2: for Kim. She went on too freelance for some of
- 3:44Speaker 2: the world's most popular media outlets, including Vice, The Guardian,
- 3:48Speaker 2: The New York Times, and even the South China Morning Post.
- 3:52Speaker 2: One of her friends later told the BBC what made
- 3:54Speaker 2: her journalistic abilities so exceptional was that she looked for
- 3:57Speaker 2: quirky stories, but with a bigger narrative. Most of the
- 4:01Speaker 2: stories Kim focused on circled around subcultures, gender, and issues
- 4:05Speaker 2: in social justice. While her interests were vast and she
- 4:09Speaker 2: traveled frequently and wrote about her experiences in other countries,
- 4:13Speaker 2: her stories were always incredibly topical and allowed her audience
- 4:16Speaker 2: to see a deeper message beyond the reporting. She was
- 4:20Speaker 2: particularly skilled at digging deeply into her interviews, and she
- 4:24Speaker 2: never lost the humanity of her subjects the more she wrote,
- 4:28Speaker 2: the more she traveled. By the age of thirty, Kim
- 4:30Speaker 2: had literally traversed the globe, interviewing everyone from voodoo priests
- 4:34Speaker 2: in Haiti to individuals identifying as vampires and gang members
- 4:38Speaker 2: of China's Tumil Tigers. She was quick witted, street smart,
- 4:42Speaker 2: and always prepared her friend, Katerina recalled Kim, explaining that
- 4:47Speaker 2: she carried a photo of her and her parents in
- 4:49Speaker 2: her wallet when she traveled. This wasn't because of any
- 4:52Speaker 2: kind of emotional connection, but as a security measure in
- 4:54Speaker 2: case she got kidnapped. Katerina explained that's just who Ca was.
- 5:00Speaker 2: She was never afraid, always aware, and never reckless. She
- 5:04Speaker 2: did interview anyone, but was always able to keep charge
- 5:07Speaker 2: of the situation with her Swedish bluntness and her carefully
- 5:10Speaker 2: placed decisions. That's how she got reclusive and shy people
- 5:14Speaker 2: to talk to her. It was also how she'd won
- 5:17Speaker 2: a fellowship with the International Women's Media Foundation to report
- 5:20Speaker 2: on Uganda and Sri Lanka. She'd also lighted a commission
- 5:24Speaker 2: to write a feature article for Harper's magazine. But the
- 5:27Speaker 2: world was not enough for Kim. There was always another
- 5:30Speaker 2: story to be told. So in twenty seventeen, when she
- 5:33Speaker 2: walked past a warehouse in Copenhagen belonging to the Rocket
- 5:36Speaker 2: Madison Science Lab, she saw a potential story. Kim had
- 5:40Speaker 2: no idea that this would be the last story she
- 5:43Speaker 2: would ever tell. In August of twenty seventeen, Kim and
- 5:48Speaker 2: her partner Danish designer Ulla Stobi were packing up their
- 5:51Speaker 2: apartment to move to Beijing in China. After almost a
- 5:55Speaker 2: decade of traveling the world and limiting places for less
- 5:58Speaker 2: than three months, Kim and Ula had to say to
- 6:00Speaker 2: settle permanently in Beijing to build a life together. But
- 6:04Speaker 2: as they walked through their Danish neighborhood a few months
- 6:06Speaker 2: before their departure date, Kim noticed a warehouse that had
- 6:09Speaker 2: escaped her previous notice. On the side of the building,
- 6:13Speaker 2: Rocket Madsen's space Lab was painted in large letters. Some
- 6:18Speaker 2: cursory research informed her that Arams Labs, as it was
- 6:21Speaker 2: more commonly known, was a company for do it yourself
- 6:24Speaker 2: rocket and submarine projects. Its founder, Peter Madson, who was
- 6:28Speaker 2: often referred to as the Danish Elon Musk, was kind
- 6:30Speaker 2: of a celebrity in Denmark. He was a self proclaim
- 6:34Speaker 2: in entrepreneur who focused his engineering skills on ocean exploration
- 6:38Speaker 2: and space travel. In two thousand and eight, he made
- 6:41Speaker 2: headlines by inventing and building his own submarine called the
- 6:45Speaker 2: UC three Nautilus. Peter was very keen on public interviews
- 6:50Speaker 2: surrounding his inventions, especially after going on to partner with
- 6:54Speaker 2: former NASA contractor Christian von Bangsten. Together they formed Copenhagen Suborbital,
- 7:00Speaker 2: which they described as a collective of amateur rocket makers,
- 7:03Speaker 2: funded by donations and working with the aim of launching
- 7:07Speaker 2: a manned rocket into space. Despite the co op dismantling
- 7:11Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen due to disagreements between Madson and his
- 7:14Speaker 2: fellow engineers, Madsen went on to create his own company,
- 7:18Speaker 2: RMS Labs. Kim was enamored with Madsen's story. His world
- 7:22Speaker 2: was so removed from that of most people. Getting his
- 7:25Speaker 2: take on submarines and rockets was exactly the kind of
- 7:28Speaker 2: article Kim would be able to pitch to a media outlet.
- 7:31Speaker 2: But for all that Peter Madson liked the press, he
- 7:34Speaker 2: was a difficult man to get an exclusive interview from.
- 7:38Speaker 2: It took Kim several months before she was able to
- 7:41Speaker 2: schedule an interview with Peter, but on August tenth, twenty seventeen,
- 7:45Speaker 2: only a few days before she was due to leave
- 7:46Speaker 2: Copenhagen for good, Madsen finally agreed to not only give
- 7:50Speaker 2: her an interview, but a ride on his famous submarine.
- 7:54Speaker 2: Kim was ecstatic to get such an opportunity and ulla
- 7:57Speaker 2: wopped her down to the dockyard. At around seven pm,
- 8:00Speaker 2: She shook hands with Madisen and bought it the nautilus.
- 8:03Speaker 2: Ulla snapped a photo of Kim waving from the top deck,
- 8:06Speaker 2: and then he went home to get ready for the
- 8:07Speaker 2: going away party that the couple were throwing to say
- 8:09Speaker 2: goodbye to their Danish friends. Kim's interview was only supposed
- 8:14Speaker 2: to take around two hours, and then she said she
- 8:16Speaker 2: joined Ulla at the party. By the time Ulla returned
- 8:20Speaker 2: to their apartment, Kim had texted him I'm still alive,
- 8:22Speaker 2: by the way, but I'm going down now. I love you,
- 8:26Speaker 2: he as she meant Peter Madsen bought coffee and cookies,
- 8:28Speaker 2: though Ulla texted her back and went to prepare for
- 8:32Speaker 2: the party. By the two hour mark, Ulla expected to
- 8:36Speaker 2: hear that Kim was coming home, but his phone remained silent.
- 8:40Speaker 2: He texted her for an update, and he got no response.
- 8:43Speaker 2: By midnight, Kim hadn't returned, and Ulla and their party
- 8:47Speaker 2: guests were getting increasingly worried that something had gone wrong
- 8:50Speaker 2: with the submarine when there had been no word from Kim.
- 8:53Speaker 2: By one forty five, am Ulla contacted the police to
- 8:56Speaker 2: report Kim missing. Authorities and harbor staff were contacted to
- 9:02Speaker 2: locate the Nautilus, but since the sub had no satellite tracking,
- 9:06Speaker 2: nobody could get in contact with Madsen to find out
- 9:08Speaker 2: if something had gone wrong. Local police and the harbour
- 9:12Speaker 2: staff watched the water all night for any sign of
- 9:14Speaker 2: the submarine, but the waters remained empty, at least until
- 9:19Speaker 2: ten thirty am. The next morning. The drought and Lighthouse
- 9:22Speaker 2: of Koha Bay reported that the Nautilus had been spotted.
- 9:26Speaker 2: Something was definitely wrong with it, though as rescue helicopters
- 9:29Speaker 2: tried to get in contact. As the subury surfaced, Peter
- 9:32Speaker 2: Madsen blew through the top hatch, waving frantically at nearby
- 9:36Speaker 2: fishing boats. Four fishermen were able to pull Madsen to safety,
- 9:40Speaker 2: but he was alone. There was no sign of Kim
- 9:43Speaker 2: wall The fishermen sowed Madsen into Drauerport, where both police
- 9:48Speaker 2: and the media were waiting for him. Madsen was immediately
- 9:52Speaker 2: arrested for Kim's disappearance, and the Nautilus was resurfaced and
- 9:56Speaker 2: searched by investigators. They were hoping against hope that Kim
- 10:00Speaker 2: was still on board somewhere, but the sub was empty.
- 10:03Speaker 2: There was nobody else on board. Only Madison knew the
- 10:07Speaker 2: truth about Kim. Could they get him to tell it?