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148: F the Police... Academy · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 7: Through your syndromes, we have a movie meltdown.
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  Speaker 3: Are you the police?
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  Speaker 2: We're musicians.
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  Speaker 9: Way down among Brazilians, coffee beans grow by the billions.
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  Speaker 3: Cups to fill.
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  Speaker 11: They got an awful lot of coffee in Brazil.
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  Speaker 3: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Marlena.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Fred.
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  Speaker 3: And we are back for another edition of The Caffeinated
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  Speaker 2: Cappuccino on my butt. I still drink coffee. The last
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  Speaker 2: fucking thing you need is another cup of coffee. It's
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  Speaker 2: time for The Caffeinated Movie Geek.
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  Speaker 3: We're coming to you live via digital recording from Nancy's
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  Speaker 3: Bagel Grounds, where we, as usual, get together, drink coffee,
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  Speaker 3: talk movies, and truthfully try to unlock the mysteries of
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  Speaker 3: the universe. through really deep films like Police Academy. All right, anyway. So,
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  Speaker 3: with that, Marlena, I ask you, what blend of coffee
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  Speaker 3: are we drinking this week?
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  Speaker 12: Fishers and Fallers.
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  Speaker 4: Ryan's got out the gourmet stuff. I would have been
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  Speaker 4: happy with some, like, Instant or something.
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  Speaker 3: Freeze-dried shit. Well, I guess with that, we can head
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  Speaker 3: into this week's geek activities. I was trying to think
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  Speaker 3: that we've moved back into the, like, new fall seasons, so...
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  Speaker 3: I know most of the time we end up going
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  Speaker 3: on about movies, but I have actually watched a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of TV. I don't watch a ton of shows regularly,
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  Speaker 3: but the few that I bother to, I have been
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  Speaker 3: somewhat lately. So I did get and was eagerly looking
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  Speaker 3: forward to the new season of Dexter starting. So I'm
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  Speaker 3: pretty thrilled with that every week. It's just so enjoyable
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  Speaker 3: for me. Maybe I'm just a sick bastard, but I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. There's just something really fun. about it and
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  Speaker 3: and it's well put together as well it is it
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  Speaker 3: is one of those they and now they have sort
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  Speaker 3: of this challenge of you know as any show that
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  Speaker 3: once you get past the first couple of seasons especially
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  Speaker 3: a show like this which is where very like story
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  Speaker 3: arc geared it's like it's not a sitcom it's not
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  Speaker 3: in and out in one episode it's like everything sort
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  Speaker 3: of carries over and builds up to the end of
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  Speaker 3: the season so they almost have to one-up themselves now
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  Speaker 3: or they have to bring in new and more interesting
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  Speaker 3: guest stars. So they've got an interesting group that they've
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  Speaker 3: thrown together this time. They've got sort of a two-villain setup,
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  Speaker 3: more or less. But yeah, they've done some pretty interesting stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Worked in some crazy religious themes, which has been kind
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  Speaker 3: of interesting. I've actually really liked the way that they've
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  Speaker 3: worked that in. It's someone who basically had no faith
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  Speaker 3: and his only system was killing people who kind of
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  Speaker 3: deserve it. having him go through this struggle of trying
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  Speaker 3: to figure out what faith is and what he's supposed
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  Speaker 3: to take from it and what he wants to pass
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  Speaker 3: on to his child now that he's a father. So
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  Speaker 3: it throws some interesting themes in there. And then I
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  Speaker 3: was going to say, again, they brought in a couple
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  Speaker 3: of different guest stars, but the one, not even the
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  Speaker 3: big villain, the one that's been most impressive for me,
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  Speaker 3: they brought in Mos Def. Most Def is awesome. I'm sorry. Like,
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  Speaker 3: that guy needs to be in everything. Like, he is
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  Speaker 3: so good in this. And plays such a different character
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  Speaker 3: than I've seen him play before. He's just... He's so good.
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  Speaker 3: I wish he was in more stuff. Any Most Def fans?
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  Speaker 12: I wouldn't say I go either way, personally. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think the name says it all.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's funny if that... almost at one point, like in
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  Speaker 3: the beginning, I was like, I would almost think that
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  Speaker 3: would be a hindering on his career. I would think
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  Speaker 3: if he wanted to be taken seriously as an actor,
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  Speaker 3: he would have to like have a regular name or, or,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you know, everybody starts off with their big fun,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like the rock. Granted his was for legal reasons,
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  Speaker 3: but after a while, You sort of got to get
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  Speaker 3: away from that and start going by your real name.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, even a lot of the rappers started off
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  Speaker 3: doing that, and then they started, oh, well, I want
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  Speaker 3: to be taken seriously.
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  Speaker 2: Ricky Schroeder has to be Rick Schroeder.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody has to find a way to be taken
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  Speaker 3: seriously as an actor.
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  Speaker 12: Why was this for The Rock? I'm confused.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, The Rock, the title, The Rock, is owned by Vince,
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  Speaker 3: what's his face, the guy that runs the wrestling company.
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  Speaker 3: It was the same thing with Hogan. Like, for a
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  Speaker 3: while there, he couldn't be Hulk Hogan because he didn't
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  Speaker 3: own that name. The whole outfit, the name, everything belonged
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  Speaker 3: to the wrestling dude. So, yeah, it's funny when they
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  Speaker 3: have to sort of reinvent themselves for legal reasons. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's what happened with Prince, too, is they
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  Speaker 4: owned his name and he was just like, fuck you.
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  Speaker 3: He, I think his, if I remember, he just didn't.
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  Speaker 3: he actually did want to, I think everything hit at
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  Speaker 3: the same time. He did want to change his name
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  Speaker 3: and be a weird symbol, but at the same time
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  Speaker 3: he didn't want, and that's the thing. He owned like
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  Speaker 3: the rights in like the, you know, actors guild or
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  Speaker 3: whatever they do for music. That's the same thing. He
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  Speaker 3: also had rights to it. And after he switched and
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  Speaker 3: went to the hieroglyphic symbol, squiggle doodle, it's sort of,
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  Speaker 3: it sort of opened it up again. And then there
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  Speaker 3: was like some weird, um, like, Canadian sax player that
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  Speaker 3: wanted to claim Prince and start using it and that
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  Speaker 3: was half the reason he was like alright fine I'm
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  Speaker 3: Prince again but at that same time he really was
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  Speaker 3: like being screwed over in his mind he was not
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  Speaker 3: thrilled that's at the point when he was writing Slave
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  Speaker 3: across his face because his recording company yeah I guess
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  Speaker 3: the record company wouldn't let him out of his contract
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  Speaker 3: and like basically made him knock out like three more
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  Speaker 3: albums for him or whatever had originally been done and
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  Speaker 3: he's just like I don't even want to work with
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  Speaker 3: you anymore but They wouldn't let him out. So I
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  Speaker 3: think that all hit at that same time.
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  Speaker 4: Too bad he didn't have some sort of connection with
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  Speaker 4: underworld figures that could have straightened that out for him.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't that usually how that stuff gets taken care of?
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  Speaker 3: I would think so.
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  Speaker 2: That's how I would do it.
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  Speaker 3: It's Minneapolis. Come on, there's got to be some thugs
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  Speaker 3: there somewhere.
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  Speaker 8: So.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, most def. I would expect him to have done that, too. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he's seemed to have done pretty well with having a
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  Speaker 3: rapper name, if you will. Yeah, he's definitely gone pretty
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  Speaker 3: far as an actor. And I don't know if I've
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  Speaker 3: seen him do something bad. Like, everything I've seen has
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  Speaker 3: been impressive and very different than what I expected going
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  Speaker 3: in with him. So, yeah, most def. Pretty awesome. Also,
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  Speaker 3: Walking Dead started, which I guess most geeks have been watching.
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  Speaker 7: So, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Again, I'm enjoying watching it every week. The first episode,
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  Speaker 3: that initial kickoff episode, was pretty impressive, again, much like
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  Speaker 3: last time. They had this whole, you know, the whole
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  Speaker 3: highway scene was amazing. The herd of zombies that comes
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  Speaker 3: along was pretty cool. So that was a really clever
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  Speaker 3: setup that they did. They have their big cliffhanger ending,
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  Speaker 3: and then it sort of takes a lull. That next
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  Speaker 3: episode was really kind of slow, and even this next
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  Speaker 3: one had its moments It had an interesting wrap-up on
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  Speaker 3: that third one out, but yeah, once they get past
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  Speaker 3: this little thing with both, there's like, both the people
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  Speaker 3: with kids have some sort of weird thing going on
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  Speaker 3: right now, so once they get past the kid problems,
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  Speaker 3: I'll kind of be interested to see where they go with, like,
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  Speaker 3: grown-ups again, and when they kind of get the rest
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  Speaker 3: of this. Everything's been put on hold for like three
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  Speaker 3: episodes at least now, because they're trying to figure out
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  Speaker 3: these other problems, so it'll be interesting to see what
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  Speaker 3: they do when they actually start going somewhere again. So
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  Speaker 3: those are both sort of a little unconventional as far
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  Speaker 3: as shows. I mean, nothing network, really the only thing
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  Speaker 3: network I've picked up and kind of been trying to
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  Speaker 3: watch this season, uh, prime suspect. I'd seen enough of
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  Speaker 3: the ads that I was like, okay, this, and again,
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  Speaker 3: they were really pushing the lead on it. And I
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  Speaker 3: was just like, I wasn't even sure who this chick was,
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  Speaker 3: but she looked kind of cool. So I wanted to see,
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  Speaker 3: you know, what, what they were doing with her. That's
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  Speaker 3: pretty much what sells it. I have to say it's
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  Speaker 3: a Maria Bello is the lead. And, She's amazing. Like,
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  Speaker 3: she really does a good job. And it's almost sad
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  Speaker 3: because the TV show itself isn't all that unconventional. To me,
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  Speaker 3: it feels a lot like most cop shows. It feels
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  Speaker 3: like you could be watching Blue Bloods or any of
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  Speaker 3: those other ones. that's on another night of the week,
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: so I kind of wish the show itself was as
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  Speaker 3: good as she is as a lead, because yeah, they
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  Speaker 3: give her good scenes, and she's got some decent character development,
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  Speaker 3: but it's just the plots themselves just sort of feel
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  Speaker 3: very run-of-the-mill network television cop show, so... I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I would kind of hope they would break out of
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  Speaker 3: that and do something a little... Especially the way they
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  Speaker 3: sold that beforehand. They really were trying to push it
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  Speaker 3: like this was a very different type of show, a
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  Speaker 3: very different style. And I know you, Fred, were a
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: big fan of Homicide. I was kind of hoping they
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: were going with that early days of Homicide feel, which
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  Speaker 3: is what it felt like from the promos, but it's
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: a little more like the later days of Homicide. Which, again,
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  Speaker 3: I liked. Okay, they weren't bad, but It became a
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  Speaker 3: little more conventional NBC cop show.
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  Speaker 2: You could feel the executives getting involved.
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  Speaker 3: And you could feel the... Who was that that did that? Levinson,
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  Speaker 3: I think, started off doing the first couple of seasons, maybe,
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: and I think backed away or was forced out. I
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: never did hear the full story on it.
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  Speaker 4: But it wound up being hugely successful as a franchise,
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  Speaker 4: although it lost all the charm of its original.
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  Speaker 3: And, and like most of those shows, they just kind
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  Speaker 3: of kept going through characters, you know, it's just like,
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  Speaker 3: nobody was left from the original run. I mean, they
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  Speaker 3: had some, was he even original? He might've been original. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And he was good.
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  Speaker 3: And they rolled him over to another show now.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Andre Bauer is what sold that. Like I could watch
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  Speaker 3: him and he's another one that like, it's a shame
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  Speaker 3: he's not in more stuff because he was amazing on
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  Speaker 3: that show. Like, Andre Brown was phenomenal. Like, those scenes
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  Speaker 3: of just him in the room, you know, when he
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  Speaker 3: would just sit in there with whoever they had that
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  Speaker 3: week that they had to try to get a confession
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  Speaker 3: out of or try to find out what was going on,
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  Speaker 3: those scenes were, like, amazing. So, yeah, if everything was
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  Speaker 3: like that, I would watch more television. But, yeah, those
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  Speaker 3: three are about all I've been watching so far. pretty
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: much lately um the only movie i'd seen i did
• 12:11
  Speaker 3: watch x-men first class which was again i'd heard really
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  Speaker 3: good things it did well mediocre at the box office
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  Speaker 3: actually but it got really good reviews and um they
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  Speaker 3: they kind of lived up to them it was better
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: you know a lot of people have said of of
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  Speaker 3: a summer full of superhero movies this was kind of
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  Speaker 3: the best one out there it It actually does have
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  Speaker 3: a really good story. They do bother to, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you've got your two main lead characters that they do
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  Speaker 3: kind of develop, and at the same time still keep
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  Speaker 3: that arc going. It is funny how much they have
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: to work. And I just read today that they're doing a,
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  Speaker 3: they've already sort of greenlit the Part 2 prequel, the
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  Speaker 3: X-Men First Class 2. But it's funny, I mean, already
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  Speaker 3: on this first class, they were working so hard to
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  Speaker 3: keep the arc going to the right place. Because, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you already get, like, they introduce characters in this one
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  Speaker 3: that are on opposite sides of where they end up
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  Speaker 3: once the other movies come out. And they're still sort of...
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't sure if they were going to reboot and totally, like,
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  Speaker 3: pretend like those didn't exist. But, no, they're still... I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's the same studio that owns it all, so they're
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  Speaker 3: still kind of keeping it all going. But it's funny
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  Speaker 3: how hard they almost had to try and go, no, wait,
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  Speaker 3: we've got to be at this end point somewhere 30
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  Speaker 3: years from now. So it's like, we've got to make
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  Speaker 3: sure our characters... do this, even though it kind of
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: feels forced every once in a while. I'm like, I
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  Speaker 3: almost wish they could just pretend like those didn't exist
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  Speaker 3: and do this story, because usually this story, especially, I mean,
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: after the third X-Men that everybody hates, Wolverine, it's like,
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: you could almost just write that off. Granted, the first two,
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: the second one in particular, are good, but yeah, this
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  Speaker 3: is almost right up there with those. I think it's
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  Speaker 3: well put together. And A good performance from, if I
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  Speaker 3: have my way, future guest on the show, Jennifer Lawrence.
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  Speaker 3: She sort of steps in and is one of the
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  Speaker 3: main roles in it and does a good job. So
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  Speaker 3: I was kind of pleased with that, too. I was
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  Speaker 3: worried that she does this super little indie movie and
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: gets huge acclaim and it goes up for Oscars. And
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: then the next thing she ends up in is like
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  Speaker 3: a giant franchise superhero movie. Yeah. I was afraid, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: then she's going to get thrown into a lot of
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  Speaker 3: really bad movies. But it's good to see this first
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  Speaker 3: one in one of the bigger projects is actually well made.
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  Speaker 3: So that was good. So, yeah, if you haven't watched
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  Speaker 3: it already, yeah, First Class is definitely worth watching, especially
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  Speaker 3: if you like the X-Men series. It's pretty well done.
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  Speaker 3: But that is pretty much all I've seen lately.
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  Speaker 12: I didn't really watch much of anything that I hadn't
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  Speaker 12: watched before. I caught bits and pieces of Halloween 4
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  Speaker 12: this week. this last week.
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  Speaker 3: And you were like, this doesn't follow where 3 left
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  Speaker 3: off at all.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, exactly. And I was just really confused about the ending.
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  Speaker 12: And I didn't bother to watch Halloween 5, which I
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  Speaker 12: hope might clear it up a little bit, but whatever.
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  Speaker 3: They enter in, I can't remember which one it is.
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: It might be 5, where they bring in this whole other,
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: was there a weird character that shows up at some
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: point that's like supposedly coming into town? And they do
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: this whole setup. I think that's the fifth one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think Because they bring in, and you've got Daniel
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  Speaker 3: Harris as the little kid, and that story arc sort
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: of continues through four and five. That's pretty much its
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: own little mini-movie is those two. But towards the end
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: of it, they bring in this other character that's like
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: the big game hunter or something. He's like the big
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: serial killer hunter. It's this weird, mysterious subplot going on,
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  Speaker 3: and they just sort of show him showing up every
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: once in a while, and they never really reveal who
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  Speaker 3: he is, and There's just sort of this thing like
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: he's coming into town to take care of the problem
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  Speaker 3: or something, and there's some higher-ups working this system, bringing
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  Speaker 3: him in, and I guess at that point, much like
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  Speaker 3: many times in this franchise, it changed hands, and they
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: handed it over to somebody else, and they just totally
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  Speaker 3: threw that out. So you spend the entire movie building
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  Speaker 3: up this new character and this weird subplot and how
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: everything's going to tie into this, and then the next
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  Speaker 3: movie comes along, and they're like, nah, never mind.
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  Speaker 12: I mean, as a continuance, I think The whole Halloween
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  Speaker 12: franchise really needs some work.
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  Speaker 3: I'm really just a fan of the first one.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like, four and five are fun. I mean, the rest
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: of them just start to become slashers. Like, the rest
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: of them just sort of feel like it's fun the
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: same way watching Jason sequels are fun. You know, it's
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  Speaker 3: just like it's fun in a turn-your-brain-off kind of way.
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  Speaker 3: But the first one is not like that. The first
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  Speaker 3: one is amazing. The second one's all right.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Everything else definitely takes a big step down.
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  Speaker 12: What I've realized I really hate about movies like that,
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  Speaker 12: it's that he's not human, clearly, but he's not supernatural.
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  Speaker 12: It's really frustrating. I feel like they need to pick
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  Speaker 12: one or the other. Even in Friday the 13th, Jason
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  Speaker 12: kind of becomes supernatural, and they admit to that.
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  Speaker 10: Definitely.
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  Speaker 12: But they never really admit to Michael Myers being supernatural,
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  Speaker 12: and it's just super annoying. It's just like, he would
• 17:17
  Speaker 12: be dead. You might as well say he's like this
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  Speaker 12: demon something, or god whatever explanation you have. Stop trying
• 17:24
  Speaker 12: to pretend he's just this really hard-to-kill human.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I remember somebody compared him to Reagan once.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: You can't take him out.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like over in the Soviet Union, a guy
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: gets a cold, next week he's dead. Our guy, you know,
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: you shoot him.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: You shoot him, he's fine. He gets cancer, he's fine.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: You couldn't take him out for a good number of
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: years there. Well, I think, again, I think that's why
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: the first one works so well, is they hadn't built
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: that up yet. So the first one, he's just got that,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: and they're really selling that boogeyman angle. So he's got that,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: he appears and disappears, and he sort of, He's very,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: you know, there's weird mystical elements there, but it's not supernatural.
• 18:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Until the very end, you get that moment of, oh, whoa,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: what just happened? But even then, it's just sort of.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: That was well done.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:12
  Speaker 12: But in all the other movies, it's just like, okay,
• 18:14
  Speaker 12: you shot him, you blew him up with a rocket,
• 18:17
  Speaker 12: he's still alive. Like, you need to explain that or something.
• 18:21
  Speaker 12: You know?
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: It was still grounded, pretty much, in that first one.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: And he did just seem like a superhuman kind of weird,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: creepy guy.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: There was that element, again, I think that's what made
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: it creepy, is there was that boogeyman element to it
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: that maybe he was something else, but just creepy enough that,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: you know, it bled into that, like, urban myth kind
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: of thing. You know, the babysitter killer stories, and it
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: sort of fed all that, and I think the gray
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: area is what made it cool, is that you didn't
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: really know what it was yet. And I think when
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: it gets later, and it is more of a ridiculous, over-the-top, undead, mythological,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: supernatural creature... Yeah, it kind of takes the fun out
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: of it, or at least makes it a little lesser
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: as a movie in my mind.
• 19:06
  Speaker 12: Honestly, I think that's probably all I watched, other than
• 19:09
  Speaker 12: a bunch of other things that I re-watched and I've
• 19:11
  Speaker 12: already talked about on the show, so I don't really
• 19:14
  Speaker 12: want to talk about those. I did have a weird
• 19:16
  Speaker 12: dream that is somewhat movie-related. I had a dream that
• 19:20
  Speaker 12: I was best friends with Miranda July, and I had
• 19:24
  Speaker 12: this big warehouse that was full of.
• 19:28
  Speaker 12: And craft supplies, and she would come over, and we'd
• 19:31
  Speaker 12: play dress-up and do crafts. It was kind of like.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, you had that drink.
• 19:35
  Speaker 12: It was kind of awesome, really.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I wish it.
• 19:38
  Speaker 12: Would happen in real life.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we can try to get a hold
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: of her, see if we can have a special crafting
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: episode with you two.
• 19:46
  Speaker 12: It was just weird, because, like, I mean, I don't...
• 19:49
  Speaker 12: dislike her, but it's not like I'm a huge fan,
• 19:52
  Speaker 12: or I don't even really know that much about her,
• 19:53
  Speaker 12: but I think I must have seen, like, a commercial
• 19:57
  Speaker 12: or something like that.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: That commercial for Miranda July being your best friend who
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: comes over to your.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Warehouse and does crafts.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Place your order now.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that.
• 20:07
  Speaker 12: Yeah, that's what it was.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Actual Miranda July Mayberry. Just some random person shows up
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: on your... Hi, are you ready to do crafts?
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Miranda May. Miranda August. My name's Miranda, too.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Can you fix my hair?
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, Lord.
• 20:27
  Speaker 12: Lord.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: It's a guy with a donkey.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: This is totally what you ordered, man.
• 20:33
  Speaker 13: Come on.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I've got your receipt right here.
• 20:37
  Speaker 12: I'm going to think of more things that I watched
• 20:39
  Speaker 12: or interesting things to talk about.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: That's okay.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: You can interrupt.
• 20:44
  Speaker 12: But I think that's all for now.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: All right, Fred.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Well, I watched a couple of things. Just last night,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: my wife brought home Tree of Life.
• 20:58
  Speaker 12: Uh-oh.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: And we started watching that. And, man, I do not know.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: I just don't know.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: That's sort of the joke I was making when I
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: was thinking, unlock the mysteries of the universe. I mean,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: that's the go-to movie for super high-end arty nerds.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: How do you put an hour-long Nature Channel special into
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: the first fucking 15 minutes of a movie? And she
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: was like, we don't have to watch this. It's like, oh, no,
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: I'm taking this ride. Now, I've got to see where
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: this is.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: I'm taking the hit. I can do it.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: That was crazy.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: And then, you know, later in the movie, there are
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: all these sort of growing up story things, and they
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: were very nicely done. It was kind of a short story,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: but it was some decent little filmmaking wrapped in an enigma.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Just slathered with pretentious bullshit.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, purposely wrapped in an enigma.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, God, that was crazy. I just couldn't believe what
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: I was seeing. I didn't even know. And at some point,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: and it's one of those movies where, like, the actors
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: are just the actors. You know, like Sean Penn shows up. Oh,
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: there's Sean Penn.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Hey, Sean. And at some point he says, he died.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: And at that point in the movie, I'm thinking, was
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: he crushed by a ton of Hallmark cards that somebody
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: was trying to make into a fucking movie?
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Because that's all I've got to go on now.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Did a dinosaur step on him? Yeah. Yeah,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Well, that's the thing. He did do
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: some sort of comment to the press after it premiered
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: that even he wasn't really thrilled with it. Like, even
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: he was like, I kind of wish I knew what
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I was supposed to be doing a little more or
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: something to that effect. But it was funny that even
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: the star of the movie, like, he sort of gave
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: him his respect. He was like, he's a great filmmaker.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: You know, what he did is important. But I kind
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: of wish he would have, like, led me down the road.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, you're the director. You're kind of supposed to
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: give me a little more direction. And, yeah, he seemed
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: like he didn't like that. the process of making the
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: movie but he was still like you know it's it's
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: a good film and everybody should go see it but
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: yeah i don't know about my part.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: In it there's some little good bits of film in
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: it it's nowhere near i i think anything i could
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: ever call a good film yeah it's just a monstrosity.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Well and i mean to balance it out and i
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: haven't watched it yet and i'm not sure how soon
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: i want to but Yeah, I know a guy who
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: saw it that week that it opened and still kind
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: of raves about it. And knowing him, it doesn't surprise me.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: I would have bet money that he thought it was great. Again,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: you can almost tell who's going to like it, who's
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: going to hate it. But yeah, there's a lot of
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: people I've heard that from that just think it's one
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: of the best films ever made kind of thing. And
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: it's deep and profound. And then there's other people that
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: are like, what the fuck is this?
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: So there can't be much middle ground on that movie.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: I would think it's going to be a love it
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: or hate it kind of thing.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: I thought the growing up stuff with the brothers, that
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: was all very nicely done. You cut off all the
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: pretentious junk. Because it really is. It's just junk. I
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: know people think it. People may feel it has an
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: intellectual reason to be there, but that's not enough reason.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: That's not a good enough reason. You can talk about
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: that after a movie.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: That's my feeling.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: The parts that were good were good. They were kind
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: of like that movie A Boy's Life.
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: I think it was Tobias Wolfe. It was his memoir,
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: and they made it into a movie with De Niro
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: was the, Is.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: That the one set in, like, Brooklyn or wherever?
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I think it was, like, out in the Northwest. Was it?
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Okay, is that the one with Leonardo when he was young? Okay,
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking of, yeah. I was trying to remember which
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: one I was thinking of, but yeah.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: But it was kind of an abusive jerk of a dad.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the one with Leonardo when he was still
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: pretty young.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: They don't make him into a monster, but he's pretty,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: you know, if you don't have trouble hating people, you
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: can manage it.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, then I'll be fine.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: So there's that, and before that, I was just looking
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: around on Netflix, and I saw this movie, and in
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: the little description it said, $ 100 budget.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: And so that got me interested.
• 25:41
  Speaker 13: It's sold.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Literally, I can buy this movie.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I'm just, all right. Yeah, it's like already there's dramatic tension.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: It's like, I want to see what happens with this.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: So the movie's called Friction, and I get around to
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: watching it, and.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: It's one of those movies, like a lot of people
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: are doing this now, it's kind of the, oh, like
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: that other movie I saw, Catfish, or like the Banksy movie,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: it's like, is this documentary, is this real? So the
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: director is a guy named Colin Poback, and the story,
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: the setup is that there's a summer arts camp for kids.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: And it needs a new director because of some financial
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: problems it had under the old director. So the guy
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: who had been the music director is promoted to be
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: the director of the summer camp. He doesn't do a
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: good job with the advertising and promotion, so it drops
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: enrollment from last year 80-some to like 7 or 8
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: this year. But he refuses to cancel it. And he's
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: a little bit of a gung-ho, determined sort of guy.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: And the guy who's set up to teach film at
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: the summer is our director, Colin Hoback, and he agrees
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: he'll do it anyway, even with the low enrollment, if
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: he can make a film about the summer camp. And
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: that's the setup. And I don't know, I guess you're
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: supposed to buy these things. some level, but to me
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: it just seems like, well, okay, that's a graceful enough setup.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: The whole question with this movie and a lot of
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: movies like it that people keep asking is.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Like, how much is real and how much is fiction?
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: How much am I supposed to care?
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not really sure.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: I just want to see a movie. That's not what
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: it leaves me wondering, like, is that real? So in
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: the course of the film, it's not the most fun
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: you can have watching a movie because they have scenes
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: where they're rehearsing the scenes that they're going to film,
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: and they're doing a.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Pretty good version of bad acting.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know what to do with this.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're trying to find conflict, but it's really petty.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: So everything is like that sort of amateur bickery.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: You know, when people are really in conflict, they don't
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: really necessarily operate at.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: The level of bickering.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: Sometimes they can say things that are supposed to sound
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: kind of pleasant and well-mannered.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: They've just got that edge to them. You know, so
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: it's very pedestrian.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: It's like watching student acting a lot of the time,
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: and they're filming these setups, and then they have, like,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: some sort of natural feeling comments about it. And there's
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: this one kid who shows up to the camp, and
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: The music director and his wife, she sort of becomes
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: friendly with this one young kid who has been in
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: and out of foster homes and so on. And then
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: as the movie progresses, you find out some things that
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: we were given to understand are not true.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: I don't want to do spoilers. It is worth watching.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: But what I'll say about it.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Is, like, you get to the last, say, 20 minutes
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: of it, and it's like, yeah, this is a movie.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: This is really a movie, you know? It's kind of
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: like you're watching it. There are some nice little things.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Should they have changed things before that? Like, is there
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: a way that it could have been like that the
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: whole way through, or does it need to go through
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: that process?
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: I think in this particular movie, it kind of needed that.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: It kind of needed.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Something that's a little bit uncomfortable and not a whole
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: lot of fun to watch.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: But there's enough that it's interesting, that you can stay
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: with it. But then by the end, it's like... oh, wow,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: this feels like something happened.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: This is like a movie that, you know, by the end,
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: you feel like, wow, okay, there's something there.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: This was an event.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: And you can, yeah, I think it's a respectable little movie.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: I don't know about the $ 100 budget or anything.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: That's what, listening to you describe it, I was like,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: you're already past $ 100.
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: If you have a camp, you're already past $ 100. Yeah,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: you've got a camp and.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: So it seems like a pretty nice premise that he
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: doesn't have to have a lot of people involved.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: He's set it up so that supposedly people are just
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: agreeing to do it.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Even in, just expenses have to be more.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think the title Friction is trying to
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: play on fiction.
• 30:53
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: But anyway, I respected it as an effort, and it's interesting.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: If you're like me and you want to see what
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: can somebody.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Do in terms of making a movie.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Out of next to nothing, it's kind of like storytelling.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Not the movie, storytelling. The act of storytelling.
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: What was that? That was a good movie, too. Storytelling.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: I've seen that. Did you ever see that? I don't
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: think I've seen that.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Storytelling.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: That was a movie that had, like, two sections. One was, like, fiction,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: I think. And the other was, like... No, one was
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: documentary and one was fiction. And the fiction was.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Like, in a creative writing class in college.
• 31:43
  Speaker 12: And, uh.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: and there's a kid in it with cerebral palsy, and
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: his girlfriend is this super cute little blonde, and it's
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: just so sick and so wrong and so funny, I
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: can't even begin to describe it. It's a great movie.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: And then the second part is like documentary, and it's
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: about this kid who is doing terrible in school. John
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Goodman is the dad. He's doing terrible in school. He
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: doesn't want to go to college. He's like a senior.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: He doesn't want to go to college. He wants to
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: be like Conan O'Brien.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: He wants to be like, he thinks he could be
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: a talk show, maybe not the host, but like the sidekick.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Andy Richter.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: And at some point, the documentary maker, who is sort
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: of a kind of pathetic guy in the film, but
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: he says, well, you know, Conan O'Brien went to college.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: He did.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: He did like a decade of writing.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Oops. Anyway, it made me think of that movie, which
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: is worth mentioning.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: That's, uh, the creative writing class and then the documentary
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: about the mixed up high school kid with John Goodman
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: as the dad. It's just, um, it's just so messed up. Um,
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: But I was going to say, like, the movie Friction was,
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: it worked as storytelling. And it kind of reminds me,
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: when I was in college, there was people, it was
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: before the fall of the Soviet Union, and one of
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: the plays that was sort of smuggled out of the
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: Soviet Union was called Nets and Traps. And it was
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: just a one-person show, and it's a woman telling a
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: story of her life.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: It's really good.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: And the reason they did it is because, you know,
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: they had no theaters. They had no support. So what
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: they were writing and what they were doing was just
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: like they would get together at somebody's house and somebody
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: would tell a story. And that was like the cutting-edge
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: theater in the Soviet Union. And somewhere I have a
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: copy of it. Now you can get it anywhere. But
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: back then, it was like this thing. And it was
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: really good. Yeah, and I think in Poland, I'm not
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: an expert on this, but my wife was interested in
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: some of these plays they wrote because they couldn't produce anything.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: They wrote plays that just had magic crap happen. Things
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: like floating heads.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: It would say in the play, then a head floats
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: into the room and starts saying this.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Is this the Adventures of Baron Munchausen?
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: They can't produce any of it, so screw it, you know.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: And I think there was some sort of horrible porn
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: scene involving Santa Claus.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Wait, I think I've seen this one. Hold on. Oh, no, wait,
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: that was on the Internet. Never mind.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was what I saw, the two main things.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: I haven't really caught up on TV. My kids are
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: starting to watch this.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: Thing called Pretty Little Liars, but I haven't really got.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Involved in it.
• 35:00
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: It looked horrible to me.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Then I looked up and read a little bit about it,
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: and there's people out there who say.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it looks awful, it's horrible, but stick
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: with it a while. So I don't know. I'll see
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: what they think about it.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember what it is. The name sounds familiar,
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: but I don't even know if I remember what it is.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I was watching it with them.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: I started watching the first episode, and I'm like, and
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: it's about teenagers having this... drama they have a dead
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: friend something i'm like so this is where desperate housewives
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: come from and on the wiki page it said it
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: was pitched as desperate housewives.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: For kids for teenagers yeah yep that's that's all you
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: need to do is find your hook find something else
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: that already worked and then change it a little Yeah, well,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: that's what this is going to be, too. Is it
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: still on? Yeah, I think this is the final season.
• 35:58
  Speaker 12: It might be almost over, but, like, it's jumped the shark, like,
• 36:01
  Speaker 12: five or six times. They, like, went in the future,
• 36:04
  Speaker 12: and then it's, like, worse than Lost.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: It's, like, Lost kind of.
• 36:07
  Speaker 12: Deals with supernatural concepts and stuff like that, so I
• 36:10
  Speaker 12: can understand the backtracking and the confusion there. But, like,
• 36:16
  Speaker 12: Desperate Housewives, they've jumped, like, in the future.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it was almost they got too popular
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: too fast because they built that. And I haven't even
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: watched an episode ever. But I remember the hype for that.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: That first season was so much that by the time
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: the second season started, people were already burned out on it.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Like it already took this big hit in the ratings
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: the second season because they built it up so much
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: and did so much press and just oversold it. And
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: everybody loved it to death that first year. And then
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: after that, they were just like, ugh, that again? It's like...
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: They almost, like, killed people with a little too much
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: push on it, so... Thank God I haven't watched it.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I watched Lost for a little while, but I just
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: felt like I was being jerked around.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think everybody.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I just felt like.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: You know, it's like, okay, that's kind of fun. It's
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: kind of... Come on. You know, it's just one too
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: many little things.
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 37:07
  Speaker 14: And.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: And I did the calculations that there was no way
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: they were going to be able.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: And I only watched like four or five episodes.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: It's like, no, there's no way they're going to be
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: able to solve this.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: It can't be done.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: It's like a Rubik's Cube that won't get put together.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: They've just thrown in too many random things just for fun.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: And I don't know.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: People may disagree, but I don't think they came up
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: with a solution that explained the polar bear wandering by
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: or whatever was going on there.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: I think even they lost their way midway in from
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: what I heard. Even the writers were just like, yeah,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: we were just kind of filling for a while. I
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: think the beginning and the end sort of they kind
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: of maybe had in mind, but I think they don't,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: some of these guys don't have a plan for when
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: they get that successful. And maybe that's the same thing
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: with something like Desperate Housewives. It's like you expect to
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: get picked up for a pilot and then it's not
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: going to get it. Or especially now it's like everything
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: gets canceled so quick. It's like, there's no point in
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: working past the first season right off because odds are
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: you're not going to get there. So when you're on
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: season three or four and you're massively successful, all of
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: a sudden you're like, what the hell do we do now?
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: There's some forgivable things like, you know, Richie Cunningham's older.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Brother, you know, you just forget.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: It's like, okay, but there's a, there's a little short
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: story called, uh, order of the Sphinx by Borges. And
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: what he tries to do in the story is, It's
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: like set up sort of a mystery, so you try
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: to guess what the story's about. What is this thing
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: that is handed down from... And then you guess it.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: You figure it out, and you go, oh, I know
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: what he's talking about. He's talking about sex. What does
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: that have to do with gum Arabic? Because there are
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: these little things he.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: Put in there that in the end, you're sure you
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: know what it is, but then there's stuff left over
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: that doesn't make any sense.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: So you ignore it. That's what you do. You just say, eh.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: And then I remember liking that story because I remember, like,
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: there were stories I'd read when I was a kid
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: that functioned that way without meaning to. They sort of
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: set you up. There's a story about a kid who grew, like,
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: enormously tall and couldn't fit through the doorway, and in
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: the end it turned out his pose had just shrunk.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: He didn't fit.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Through the fucking doorway. He just told me this.
• 39:35
  Speaker 12: I was watching season one of It's Always Sunny in
• 39:37
  Speaker 12: Philadelphia yesterday, and we watched the episode Charlie Got Molested,
• 39:42
  Speaker 12: and he says something about his sister. He's like... Yeah,
• 39:46
  Speaker 12: my favorite part of the evening was when my sister
• 39:48
  Speaker 12: yelled that I touched her vagina. And I was like,
• 39:50
  Speaker 12: Charlie doesn't have a sister. That's so weird. As I
• 39:54
  Speaker 12: was thinking, I was kind of like, the.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Older brother I had these days.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: He really liked the family dog.
• 40:03
  Speaker 12: It's funny how they just kind of, most shows, have
• 40:08
  Speaker 12: a little piece that they kind of gloss over a
• 40:10
  Speaker 12: character that kind of goes away and they just don't
• 40:12
  Speaker 12: mention anymore.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: They have somebody, I think, who, like, keeps up with
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: the book.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Is supposed to, yeah.
• 40:18
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: The best they can.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: What usually is, is those kind of things happen in
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: the first season or two, and then later they get successful,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: and they start, you know, bringing new writers, they start
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: sort of changing the story, and they're like, what about
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: earlier when we said this? And they're like, whatever, too bad,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 40:33
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: They just sort of, you know, what they set up
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: in the beginning ends up not being what they want
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: it to be anymore, so they just sort of change
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: the rules, and, eh, what are you going to do? Yeah. Well,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: I guess if that rounds out the Geek Week, we'll
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: take a break and come back with this week's big interview.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: We'll be right back.
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: Hmm, looks like there's been a slight disagreement between friends. Well,
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: here's a surefire way to patch things up. Just take
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: two big juicy all-meat wieners, wrap them in oven-fresh buns,
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: Add ketchup, mustard, relish, and let's see. Here's one happy fella,
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: and here's another. Yes, sir, everybody agrees that the hot
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: dogs you find at our refreshment center are the best.
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: Buy one for everybody. You'll agree they're delicious.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: Hey, look.
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: Those two cops are climbing down the side of that
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: five-story building and getting a drop on that whole gang
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: of crooks. They're making a million-dollar drug bust in broad daylight.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: That's amazing.
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: Did you see that? The same two cops just dove
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: headfirst off the back of a speeding bus. They're sneaking
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: up on six of the mob's most dangerous hitmen and
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: taking away their guns. That's incredible. Wow, now they're hiding
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: in garbage cans, leaping from rooftops, smashing through windows, and
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: crashing through walls. That's impossible. Who do they think they are?
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: Batman and Robin? That's right. The real-life cops they call
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: Batman and Robin. The Super Cops. Their tactics are outrageous.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: Their record is unbelievable. Their story is amazing, incredible, impossible,
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: and true. The Super Cops. Rated R. Under 17. Not
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: admitted without parents.
• 42:49
  Speaker 13: What's happening?
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: My name is Jimmy and.
• 42:53
  Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah.
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: That's right, my name is, uh, yeah, Jimmy.
• 42:59
  Speaker 13: What's happening?
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: It's just a loose jam, you know, if you want to,
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: we're just jamming, so, you know, it's.
• 43:04
  Speaker 13: Just a loose jam. What's happening, bro?
• 43:09
  Speaker 15: I'm gonna dedicate this song to Bob Dylan, um, simply because, uh,
• 43:12
  Speaker 15: I don't understand him.
• 43:14
  Speaker 13: Yeah, uh, let's see, yeah, I got it, yeah, okay.
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 43:31
  Speaker 14: We need to leave!
• 43:58
  Speaker 16: I don't know why.
• 44:01
  Speaker 14: Excuse me while.
• 44:03
  Speaker 17: I eat the sky.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: All right, we are back. So this week, yeah, we
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: talked to Michael Winslow. And this interview goes much like
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: you would expect talking to Michael Winslow. It's all over
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: the place. He's a very interesting guy. And he will
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: go into, quote unquote, his thing. like throwing a switch.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Like he will go into what he is known for.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: He will go into his, his crazy behavior, his crazy voices,
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: his crazy sound effects. And like, he will just snap
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: into him like that. And then right back out and
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: be back in the middle of answering a question or
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: talking about normal things. And yeah, it's, it's sort of
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: amazing to watch and unnerving just sitting there in the
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: room with them. It's like, yeah, you, you never quite
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: know what's going to come next when you're, when you're
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: sitting there talking to him. It's, It's interesting. So this
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: is actually in the green room right before he's about
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: to go on. He has always been. He started off
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: doing stand-up and still is doing it today. So you'll
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: actually hear another voice in the background. I believe that's
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: the comic that was opening for him, but I was
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: never really introduced, so I don't know. But, yeah, when
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: you hear some other guy talking and randomly laughing at
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Michael being crazy, yeah, I'm assuming the other comic that
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: was working that night, but... All right, so now we
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: will go with the very special interview with Michael Winslow.
• 45:29
  Speaker 18: All right, we're here with Michael Winslow.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: As your career has gone....
• 45:35
  Speaker 18: Listen to the crowd. They loved Around the World.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: So you're obviously known very well for the noises and voices.
• 45:46
  Speaker 18: I guess how early on did you realize you could
• 45:48
  Speaker 18: do that?
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: That's when.
• 45:56
  Speaker 19: Was it from birth i'm afraid so um was it
• 46:03
  Speaker 19: something you you did start doing early like as a
• 46:06
  Speaker 19: kid were you getting yourself in trouble doing that kind
• 46:09
  Speaker 19: of stuff.
• 46:10
  Speaker 11: Well the trouble was already there i was just there
• 46:13
  Speaker 11: i was just there to make things interesting i guess
• 46:15
  Speaker 11: always yeah always okay.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: I mean i know you went into acting at that
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: point i guess there was no training for that sort
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: of thing is it uh is it something.
• 46:25
  Speaker 17: None that i'm aware of yeah i'm trying to think
• 46:26
  Speaker 17: of something that was uh charlie callous no no no
• 46:31
  Speaker 17: it's not the same thing uh you know watching red
• 46:34
  Speaker 17: skeleton and watching and watching uh jack benny be cheap
• 46:38
  Speaker 17: and not spend a dime on anything in rochester tell
• 46:39
  Speaker 17: him how cheap what a.
• 46:40
  Speaker 11: Cheap bastard he is stuff like that's what gets it
• 46:43
  Speaker 11: for me man Watching the Shadow, watching the Flip Wilson show.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Rowan and Martin's laughing.
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: Rowan and Martin's laughing.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: When he, when he, Flip Wilson, when he played Geraldine.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was, that's when.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Here come the judge and bring my chime 47 times.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Rowan and Martin's laughing. Goldie Hawn's first gig.
• 46:57
  Speaker 18: Watching everybody else dress up.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: The first iteration of the Cosby show.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:01
  Speaker 13: When he was Mr.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Kincaid.
• 47:03
  Speaker 18: Nice.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Chester Kincaid.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: See, that's a trivia question.
• 47:06
  Speaker 11: That's the kind of stuff that affected me. That and
• 47:08
  Speaker 11: Monty Python and Benny Hill.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Where they kept slapping that old guy on the head.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: What happened to that old guy? They're all probably gone.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I think the.
• 47:19
  Speaker 11: Last time we saw him was on Waterworld. The old
• 47:23
  Speaker 11: guy inside the tanker.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir. Take care of your body.
• 47:30
  Speaker 15: Four feet, three inches of black stuff.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, sir.
• 47:38
  Speaker 18: Don't they light him on fire by the end of
• 47:40
  Speaker 18: that movie?
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they do.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: And when the fire came, oh, thank God.
• 47:45
  Speaker 18: Sadly, I know my water world.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: That was water max, man.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, nice. That was max on the water. That was
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: water max.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 47:55
  Speaker 10: Water max.
• 47:56
  Speaker 11: And the postman was when the water dried up.
• 48:00
  Speaker 18: Unfortunately for dried up Kevin's career.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: It's okay, it got the oil machine.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: The baseball movie.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. You actually got.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Oil Field of Dreams. I'm sorry, your question was? You
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: got to do the gong show. What was that process like?
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Very strange. I would imagine.
• 48:24
  Speaker 11: I ended up having to audition at a country western bar.
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: Oh, God.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: You know the country western bar in the Blues Brothers?
• 48:33
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 48:33
  Speaker 11: With the chicken wire... In fact, the first thing the
• 48:36
  Speaker 11: band said when they came in was, chicken wire. That's
• 48:40
  Speaker 11: the kind of places. The Palomino Club in North Hollywood
• 48:42
  Speaker 11: had to play that place.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Had to play country restaurant bar.
• 48:45
  Speaker 11: Man, I won the hundred bucks for the talent contest,
• 48:48
  Speaker 11: but I was kind of like a fresh steak. You
• 48:53
  Speaker 11: know what it's like to be steak of the month?
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: You don't want to set the mistake of the month.
• 48:58
  Speaker 18: If all else fails, you're all out of theme.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: They had the Palomino Riders.
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: That was the band.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: That was Chuck Berry's group playing on the stage was
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: the Palomino Riders.
• 49:08
  Speaker 11: That was his opening band. That was his band that
• 49:09
  Speaker 11: used to open for Chuck Berry, he told me. So
• 49:12
  Speaker 11: I ended up doing that and not getting killed or eaten.
• 49:15
  Speaker 11: And I ended up being invited to a gong show
• 49:18
  Speaker 11: audition because one of his people was there.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: Nice.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Because the band told him about it. So that's how
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I got the gong show. And you won.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: $ 516.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: 32, which I went and bought a car. So I
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: turned from homeless to mobile homeless. That's a step up.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: It is if you've got four wheels.
• 49:35
  Speaker 18: Do you still have the gongs?
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and my mom's got it.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I gave it to my mom.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: That's a good product.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: In the middle there, before you kind of found Police Academy,
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: you were doing some other roles. Was it something you
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: were trying to do more straight acting? Were you just
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: looking to get in as an actor?
• 49:54
  Speaker 11: I was looking to get a job. In fact, my
• 49:57
  Speaker 11: first job was a drama. And I was not ready
• 50:00
  Speaker 11: for it. So I actually wasn't that good. Funny how comedy,
• 50:04
  Speaker 11: after a while, comedy helps create the best dramatic performer.
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: And then let's say you ended up in a couple
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: of Cheech and Chong's. How did you get involved?
• 50:14
  Speaker 11: Again, an accident. I think I placed fourth in the
• 50:19
  Speaker 11: big lap office in San Francisco.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: I think I was fourth. Hey, politics, what can I say?
• 50:25
  Speaker 13: It was fifth.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: It was me.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: A.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Whitney Brown, Dana Carvey, Marsha Warfield, and Mike Davis.
• 50:31
  Speaker 18: A bunch of nobodies.
• 50:34
  Speaker 11: Davis went on to Sugar Babies. Marsha Warfield had her
• 50:36
  Speaker 11: own series. Dana Carvey went to SNL, and A. Whitney
• 50:40
  Speaker 11: Brown went to SNL.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: As you got into the Police Academy movie, was.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: That written for you?
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Did they troll that character to you?
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: It didn't exist originally.
• 50:51
  Speaker 11: I wasn't even in the first script iteration from Neil
• 50:54
  Speaker 11: Israel and Pat Proff.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Hugh Wilson wrote it in.
• 50:57
  Speaker 18: How did they find out? I mean, did they just
• 50:59
  Speaker 18: see you performing?
• 51:00
  Speaker 11: Yeah, they came to a jazz concert with me and
• 51:05
  Speaker 11: Count Basie and his orchestra.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: I was the opening act for Count Basie.
• 51:08
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 51:09
  Speaker 18: That's pretty nice.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: And then after, I mean, that sort of took off
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: in a ridiculous way. How did things change for you?
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, it had to be a 180 at that point.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: They're still evolving. It's still evolving.
• 51:21
  Speaker 11: I still have people telling me that what I'm doing
• 51:23
  Speaker 11: is annoying. I still get people complaining about it. I
• 51:28
  Speaker 11: still get, yeah, I get that a lot.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: It is an evolving story we learn by doing.
• 51:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: Is it, I guess, something that's worked out? I mean,
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: you still enjoy the process, I suppose.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: It has its moments. It has its great moments. Things
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: continue to evolve.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: Definitely.
• 51:49
  Speaker 18: Just a couple of, again, the movie tie-ins. I mean,
• 51:52
  Speaker 18: how did you get involved with Groom Ones?
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: I was trying to get a job again.
• 51:57
  Speaker 11: One of those things where they offered a pay rate
• 51:59
  Speaker 11: of a couple of days' pay if you come and
• 52:01
  Speaker 11: do this thing.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: By the way, you have to sign here. And sign here.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: And here.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: What am I signing? Non-disclosure agreements.
• 52:11
  Speaker 17: And here.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: And here.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: What the hell is this?
• 52:15
  Speaker 11: Nine disclosures with liquidated damages. You cannot talk about this
• 52:18
  Speaker 11: movie until it comes out. You cannot tell what you've seen.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: You cannot say... In fact, every page that you read,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: you will sign for.
• 52:26
  Speaker 18: And Joe Dante owns your soul.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Well, hey, you know what? Dante's Inferno.
• 52:32
  Speaker 18: There's worse people. I mean, Joe's a good guy.
• 52:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: It ended up doing really well. I mean, so I
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: got strife out of it.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 52:40
  Speaker 18: So what kind of direction did they give you as
• 52:42
  Speaker 18: a criminal?
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: All you had to do was look at the movie.
• 52:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 52:45
  Speaker 11: All you had to do was look at these things
• 52:47
  Speaker 11: and go, oh, my God. kids aren't going to want
• 52:50
  Speaker 11: to look under the beds after this.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: It's funny how much.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they presented it like it was a family movie.
• 52:56
  Speaker 11: It was not a family movie.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: It's horror.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: It was a horror picture. It's total horror. But it
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: was still so marketed PG at that point.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: And Academy gets an R rating the first time.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: They're going to figure that one out.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Well, if the Gremlins had breasts, they would have gotten an.
• 53:11
  Speaker 8: R, too.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: You've got to wait for Gremlins 2 for that.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Even still, they didn't put no breasts on it. Yeah.
• 53:18
  Speaker 18: Yeah, he had lipstick.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: That part I saw.
• 53:21
  Speaker 18: Courtney the Bug's bunny wigs and a lipstick. That's all
• 53:23
  Speaker 18: you need to be a girl, man.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Yosemite Sam was so stupid. He
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: buys it every time.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Yosemite Sam loses every time.
• 53:30
  Speaker 18: He's going to lose.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: It's a New York rabbit. The rabbit's from Brooklyn. What
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: do you expect?
• 53:36
  Speaker 18: You don't mess with Brooklyn rabbits.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Brooklyn rabbit. You don't mess with no.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: You don't... We don't Brooklyn rabbits. You don't... We don't
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Brooklyn rabbits, Doc.
• 53:45
  Speaker 18: You can use the bad words of York.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: His head should have exploded.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: His head should have blown up right then.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: Oh, then you also have a really memorable role in Spaceballs.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Yes, I was the left ball.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: It was fun. How was that?
• 54:02
  Speaker 18: I mean, working with Mel Brooks.
• 54:04
  Speaker 11: I still don't understand what the hell just happened. I'd
• 54:07
  Speaker 11: like to try that again. I still don't know what
• 54:10
  Speaker 11: the hell happened. I had a couple of days working.
• 54:13
  Speaker 11: I was there two and a half weeks.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I still don't know what the hell happened. How did
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I get this? Two weeks work stretched into two and
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: a half weeks.
• 54:22
  Speaker 11: I saw Stallone riding on his custom Chevy Suburban with
• 54:25
  Speaker 11: the lowered wheels.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, his head was only coming up the top.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: You know, the little hands, like the old lady when
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: they drive. I want to see the hands.
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: And the hair.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: I said, damn.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: I said, nice truck. Knuckles are higher than the hair.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: By the way, I did enjoy that thing in the Expendables.
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: I did.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: I pass on this.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: It wants to be president.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: I caught that. I caught it.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: We know it's true.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: By the way, why.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Did they put.
• 55:05
  Speaker 11: In Demolition Man, how come they gave Sandra Bullock half
• 55:07
  Speaker 11: a size too small to wear?
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: What up with that?
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: We'll explain it to you later.
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: How come?
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: It's the same thing with Gwen Stefani. What is going
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: on with you?
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: How come these producers get a half size too small?
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Never mind.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: Never mind.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: It was only in high school.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: Never mind.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Never mind.
• 55:24
  Speaker 8: Oh.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Never mind.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, you started getting more movie projects. Did
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: you ever actually put comedy on hold, or is it
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: just something you.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: It continues. It evolves. It depends on what we're doing.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: The French Festival in Edinburgh, Scotland was great. Just came
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: back from that. The world's largest comedy festival and it
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: was odd. Oddly entertaining. It was oddly delicious, man.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: French.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: It really was. It's the world's largest festival. It's bigger
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: than Montreal. It was huge.
• 55:51
  Speaker 11: I saw a lot of different styles of comedy. including
• 55:54
  Speaker 11: the American and the Canadian stuff, you know, Tom Green's great.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: He's, he's, he's lost his mind. I think he keeps
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: it in a box by the stage.
• 56:00
  Speaker 18: I don't know if he ever had his, I think
• 56:02
  Speaker 18: he keeps it in a box, even.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: A box in the freezer.
• 56:05
  Speaker 11: Um, but genius, crazy. Um, uh, Margaret Cho is great. Uh,
• 56:12
  Speaker 11: The dancers in this, I mean, it wasn't just comedy.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: It was music. It was theater. It was one-person performances.
• 56:18
  Speaker 11: Even average white band had their own venues. I mean,
• 56:19
  Speaker 11: it was a bunch of stuff going on. It was
• 56:21
  Speaker 11: the world's largest, and now the.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Film festival is coming back.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: So it's going to be twice the size.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: So with the exchange rate, is the average white band
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: more than average over there?
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Pound Sterling?
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: As a matter of fact.
• 56:33
  Speaker 18: As long as you don't involve the euro.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: It's $ 1.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: 59, man.
• 56:37
  Speaker 7: It's $ 1.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: 59 to buy one British pound.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: And $ 1. 60 for one Scottish pound.
• 56:43
  Speaker 18: Don't bring Greece into it now.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Scottish.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: Do you feel stand-up... If this is Scottish, it's crap!
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Do you feel stand-up is more at home? Is that
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: still kind of your first home?
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 56:57
  Speaker 11: For me, stand-up is... It doesn't matter what country I'm in.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: I try to relate to wherever I am.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: We are where we are. We are where we are.
• 57:07
  Speaker 18: But even versus like movies and other types of it.
• 57:10
  Speaker 11: I like movies because, well, the problem with movies is
• 57:13
  Speaker 11: it's fun to work and then go home.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: But you're taking a calculated risk.
• 57:17
  Speaker 11: The joke you told six months ago when you shot
• 57:19
  Speaker 11: the picture you hope is going to be just as
• 57:21
  Speaker 11: effective a year from now.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It changes.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Sure it does.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: And then we kind of discussed a lot of movies.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: You seem like you're kind of immersed in pop culture
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: and always have been.
• 57:32
  Speaker 18: What type of movies and stuff do you like?
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: I try to watch everything. I haven't had time to
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: really go to the movies lately. Haven't seen Thor yet.
• 57:38
  Speaker 18: I heard it's okay.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: I have not seen The Green Lantern.
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: Sorry.
• 57:43
  Speaker 8: Sorry.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: Sorry, Ryan.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Power down.
• 57:46
  Speaker 13: Sorry, Ryan.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: Sorry about that, man. But that's cool, man.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: You and everybody else.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: Nobody else. All right.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: I think Sombra liked it.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: Not necessarily.
• 57:59
  Speaker 18: Or even like older stuff, just kind of classic stuff
• 58:01
  Speaker 18: that you.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: Van Wilder, baby.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: That's the Reynolds I like.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: Is that a classic? That's the guy I like.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: That's what we're talking about.
• 58:09
  Speaker 18: Two guys at a pizza place.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: Van Wilder, too.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: He did pretty good.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: Actually, I enjoyed them.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: They were funny.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Because I miss the Animal House type of comedy. I
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: miss that.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: You know, with the food fight with John Belushi and
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Wright Land. Now, I missed that, man, because we don't
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: got that.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: In fact, I'll tell you what I missed. I missed
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: National Lampoon Magazine.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:33
  Speaker 11: Remember, if you don't buy this magazine, we're going to
• 58:36
  Speaker 11: shoot this dog.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Remember that?
• 58:40
  Speaker 11: People wrote in and complained to the ASPCA because they
• 58:43
  Speaker 11: thought it was a real dog. But National Lampoon knew
• 58:48
  Speaker 11: how to push the envelope until they messed with Liza Minnelli.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:52
  Speaker 18: Well, even then, I mean, the early.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, God, they went crazy.
• 58:54
  Speaker 18: The early National Lampoon movies were good, too, but they.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Got worse as time went on. So I think it's
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: just the less... People seem to care less. When you
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: had John Landis making one, it was, yeah. Do an
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: animal house and stuff like that. God, I miss that.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: God, I miss that. The timing. It was the timing.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: They're almost using it as a stepping stone for something better.
• 59:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 59:18
  Speaker 18: Those are the classics.
• 59:21
  Speaker 11: And you see that registers now I mean there's so
• 59:25
  Speaker 11: much of that that's ingrained in pop culture that I
• 59:28
  Speaker 11: don't even know if kids know where it comes from
• 59:31
  Speaker 11: and what did Dean Wormer say son drunk fat and
• 59:35
  Speaker 11: stupid there's no way to go through life son I can't.
• 59:37
  Speaker 16: Believe I threw up in front of Dean Wormer face
• 59:39
  Speaker 16: it you threw up on Dean Wormer that's funny I.
• 59:45
  Speaker 11: Miss old school comedy man and I'm hoping that we're
• 59:47
  Speaker 11: going to see more of that in the future.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: It's kind of coming back.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: The last five or six years, there's new projects. It's
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: kind of finding some of the improv groups, it seems like,
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: are starting to.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 18: Get more movie work now.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 13: Good.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 18: Well, you've got new projects going on. I was just
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 18: going to let you tell people what all you've got
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 18: going now.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Academy 8 is coming.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 13: Okay.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 11: I'm going to estimate January, February.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: So we'll see. That's coming on... a children's program with
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Bill Cosby. He's the co-producer. And I hope I am
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: able to get that thing done as soon as possible.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: I'm going to actually spend the next few weeks working
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: on trying to get that finished before the end of
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: the year.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: Cool.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: I've got to make a bunch of changes to it.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: It's in post.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: And some green screen stuff because I might mess up people's.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Heads a little bit.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine that.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Talking animals, scratching records. Yeah, man. I'm going to do it.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 18: And then you have your own iPod apps?
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: There's one called Let's Kung Fu. which deals with the
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: specific art of Kung Fu.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 7: First you shake the phone, and that's what you get.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Kung Fu fighting technique.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: That's what it's called.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: That's Kung Fu.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: That's one.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: And there's more to come.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 18: So go look for the iPhone app.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: And go to MichaelWinslow.net if you really want to know.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 18: So go download the app.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 11: Yeah, there's information on there on MichaelWinslow.net, and it'll also
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 11: connect you to the Michael Winslow TV channel on YouTube.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: Nice.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Very strange.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, I am a match. All right. Any more noises you.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: Want to throw in?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Not on camera.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we can shut this.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 18: Otherwise, I think that was it.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Thanks, man.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 18: Thanks for talking to us.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: You're welcome.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: So once again, thank you to Michael for sharing his
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: whole career there and then how he got involved with
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: still what he is best known for, the Bullies Academy series.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: So he is amazing to see in action. So go
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: to michaelwinslow.net and check out his upcoming projects and his schedule,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: and you can go see him do that sort of
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: thing live and in person. And you too can experience that. Yeah,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: he's a lot to deal with. It's amazing. All right,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: so with that, we will take a break here, and
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: we will be back with this week's movie.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 8: Rock and roll heaven, but rock and roll can never die,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 8: because we always rock alive.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 13: Mercy, mercy, mercy.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Welcome to rock and.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: Roll heaven, baby.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: This is the Wolfman.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 8: We got a special rock and roll presentation.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: Tonight from the group Led Zeppelin.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 8: Featuring Robert Plant and Jimmy Page. The first hit song
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 8: ever written by Robert Plant was the Immigrant Song. Yes,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 8: my friends, the Immigrant Song was an accidental creation. And
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 8: Robert and Jimmy wrote that song the day he slammed
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 8: his car under on his hand.
• 1:03:05
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• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: That's Mickey Mouse's penis.
• 1:04:17
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• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: They look to be shocked.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Here's Vagina!
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: Did you see Miley Cyrus' globulous breasts?
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  Speaker 13: Night of the Living Podcast.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: I found more syrup on my pants.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: Bizarre adventure in fear. There was, however, a guy using.
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• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: More shattering than your strangest nightmare.
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  Speaker 12: Ass to mouth is fantastic.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Holy shit. That just happened.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: What's that bad man doing to my donkey? A night
• 1:04:57
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• 1:04:59
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• 1:05:01
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• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: My mom wants to do a.
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• 1:05:29
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• 1:05:31
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• 1:05:43
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• 1:05:46
  Speaker 11: I mean, what's wrong with you?
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  Speaker 2: Last week, disturbing the peace.
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  Speaker 5: Week before that, destroying private property.
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• 1:06:05
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• 1:06:07
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• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: this time.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: You're going to the county lockup.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: Lockup?
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: I didn't do anything really major. Then I'll make a
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: deal with you.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 8: Anything.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: I want you to go to the police academy.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: The police academy? Even if you never graduate, the training
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: will be good for you. Wait a minute. Wait a minute, Reed.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: I've seen the commercials on TV.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: The academy's taking all kinds today.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: Even you.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: No deal.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 10: That's nuts.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: Well, it's either that or the lockup. Police academy or jail.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Will I get my own squad car? You'll get 14
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: weeks of academy training and discipline. Starting Monday morning.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: 14 weeks.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: Oh, they can throw you out.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: But you can't quit.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: You quit and you're back in jail. And that's the deal.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: Fuck the police.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 15: Coming straight from the underground. A young nigga got it
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 15: bad cause I'm brown. And not the other color so
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 15: police think they have the authority to kill a minority.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: Fuck that shit cause I ain't the one.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 15: For a punk motherfucker with a badge and a gun
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 15: to be beaten on.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: And thrown in jail we can go to.
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  Speaker 15: All right, welcome back to Movie Meltdown Silver Theater.
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  Speaker 3: This week's Sofa Theater feature is Police Academy. The year
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: is 1984. Director Hugh Wilson. The plot, according to IMDb,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: a group of good-hearted but incompetent misfits enter the police academy,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: but the instructors there are not going to put up
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: with their pranks. That makes it sound even dumber. Spoiler alert,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: if you, I don't know, have sense and are busy
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: watching Tree of Life and Deep, dinosaur movies or stuff
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: like that, and you haven't seen Police Academy, we don't
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: want to ruin it for you. So, spoiler alert, run
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: out and see Police Academy. I'm sure it'll balance out
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: your life. Other than that, where would you guys like
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: to begin with Police Academy?
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: Well, I've never seen it. I just saw it yesterday
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: for the first time. I saw the first one for
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: the first time.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: It kind of It's sad to say it goes downhill
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: from there. They get progressively dumber and more dumbed down
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: and kiddified as it goes on.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 12: I can't even imagine that being possible. Funny story though,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 12: once my mom found a big box of DVDs like
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 12: in a storage shed or something like that that was
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 12: like being auctioned off. And she got the box home
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 12: and every single, every single case was empty. You know,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 12: like someone had taken them out and putting them into
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 12: a binder, except for every police Academy movie ever.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: So they didn't bother to take those out. Okay.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: When I called wild and rolling to see if they
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: had police Academy, I called him and I said, do
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: you have police Academy?
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: And he said, yeah. Oh, um, The rental comes with
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: the first four of them.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: It's a box set.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: There's this tone of apology.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you have to watch four.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: For the same price as renting one movie, we're going
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: to have to give you all four of them.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: I'm really sorry about that. Yeah, that was his tone.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: So that was my setup. Yeah, so I start watching it,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: and immediately.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Here's my feeling about it.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: It's a kind of comedy that's, like, nicer than suits
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: my character.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: It's really, it's a comedy that's accepting of everyone. And
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: so the jokes seem kind of obvious.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: Kind of obvious, but they're inclusive.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: They include all those people who have no fucking sense
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: of humor.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: They'll like it, too.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: And it's nice, and that's kind of what it's about,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: you know?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 20: It's like.
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  Speaker 4: We're no longer excluding people who are not fit to
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: be cops.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Come on. Come on, join the force.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: And it's nice. You don't have good movie taste? We're
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: including you too. Come on in and watch Sully's Academy.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: So basically, I'm kind of like grudgingly like.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: okay, I don't like it, but I can see how
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: it has virtues that I personally do not possess.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: I am not that accepting. I hate a lot of people. So,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: you know, but that's kind of what it's like, you know.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: It's got, like, misfits and stuff, and.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: People who don't at all seem to be suited for
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: what they're trying to do.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: And so, in a way, it's, like, really nice. It's just,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: I'm not. Well, we knew that, but.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: But I would compare it, you know, in a way
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: it's kind of like that movie Accepted. Have you seen that?
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: It's like these kids who don't get accepted in the
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: colleges they apply.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 8: Oh, I've seen it.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: So they make up their own college.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 12: It's like one of Jonas Hill's first movies.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I watched that movie a lot.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: I remember the trailer for it. Yeah, I watched it.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: Much like this. That's what I was thinking. As I
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: watched this, I was like, the key moments, the big jokes,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, that's in the trailer. That's in the trailer.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: And I'd seen the trailer not too long ago. I
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: was just like, you can wrap this movie up more
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: or less in the amount of time it takes to
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: put together a trailer. And, and I guess I don't
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: mean that to sound as bad as it does, because
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's, it is one of those. And, and
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: this kind of goes back to like the, a couple
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: of weeks ago when we watched the incredible shrinking woman,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: it's like, this is one of those that I watched
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: on cable a lot as a kid. And I guess
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: it goes to show, because at the time I remember
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: thinking it was a pretty funny comedy and, have not
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: watched it since then, haven't really made an effort to. Again,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: I always thought Michael Winslow was pretty funny over the years,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: so I've sort of kept up with him. But most
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: of the rest of the cast, most of them, the
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: ones that made anything sort of of their names, sort of, well,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: they've come and gone at this point, but they didn't
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: have anything to do with it by the second one almost.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: So it sort of took on a life of its
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: own as the series progressed. But I don't remember seeing
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: past the first couple, and I just sort of forgot
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: about it for the most part. So I haven't seen
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: it in years and years. So going back and watching it,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: I guess it kind of... I was sitting there and
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: we were just watching it today. And I'm sitting there
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: with you, Marlena, and neither of us were really laughing.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: And I was just like, I guess it shows that
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: I've had a little growth. You wouldn't think so, but
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: I guess I've cultivated my movie taste a little bit
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: since I was a little kid because... Yeah, there's very
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: little in this I found funny. There were some things
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: that were amusing. There were a few things that I
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: still liked, but did I ever have a laugh? Like
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: a full-on mini-a-good comedy that I like these days? Laugh?
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: Not really at all.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 12: I didn't laugh, but I got some really cute pictures
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 12: of your dog. Did you see this?
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: That's what you were doing while I was sort of
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: watching the movie.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: I didn't laugh.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: They are adorable, by the way.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: But I did get good pictures of your dogs.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: They're adorable.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: I'm sure our listeners are really enjoying that.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 12: Here, I'll email it to.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 13: Okay.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we can have that as our... Again, we're working
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: in the new... These special extra benefits for the upper
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: tiers of the Secret Circle. So, yeah, this week that
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: can be our special photo.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: What's your email address?
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: Actually, I just sent it to the show.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: So, as I was watching it, It was driving me crazy,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: all the familiar faces, trying to place them where else
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: they'd been at.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: At that point, yeah. Everybody in that... Again, it's such
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: an 80s movie. I mean, you realize that half the
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: people in it either were already on something really popular
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: at that time, or were just about to break and
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: were going to be huge in the next 10 years,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: and then probably disappear off the face of the earth.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: Steve Gutmer.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 6: So.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: Well, see, before I saw this movie... All I knew
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: about it, it's like there was the Simpsons reference from
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: the Simpsons show that was sort of based on, like,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: the Freemasons.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: And so I think there were the Stonecutters.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: In the Simpsons. Yeah, I do remember that.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: And they were meeting together.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: And they had this song like, Who keeps back the
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: electric car?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: Who made Steve Guttenberg a star? These are the mysterious
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: things that the Masons sort of say.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 8: No.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: It all puts it into context doesn't it do you.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 12: Ever read about the police academy curse no supposedly there's
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 12: like a curse on all the actors that were ever in.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: That but they say that about most movies out there
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: at this point.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: It was funny to see like baby kim cattrall.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 12: Yeah she was actually almost tolerable.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: That's the thing early on you know i.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: Kind of like her i mean i know she was
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: on Whatever that was.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: By the time she got to that, I hated her.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 12: She was gross.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: Well, she is, but the thing I admire about her,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: and I'm not sure I remember what movie I decided
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: this in, is she just does not care what she
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: looks like on film. She's got more of that personality
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: of like a comedic.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: Actress that she will do anything. I saw her in
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: some movie. I think it may have been called Live
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: Nude Girls.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: And there's a scene where she's.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: Like, trying to get her ex back, and so she's
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: dressed up in this desperate outfit that... You know those
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: things like negliges or teddies or whatever they are that
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: were designed? My theory is not to be sexy, but...
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: to pretend to be trying to be so that TV
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: sensors could allow.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. To get the idea across that you're trying to
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: be sexy without being naked, which is what you really want,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: but you can't always show that. So she's wearing something
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: And then she starts crying.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: She's got her mascara running down her face and she's
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: like crawling on the floor. And she just, it's like, God,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: she's got the nerve, um, to do what it takes.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: You know, she would commit to the part. So I
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: kind of like her for that. And, it was fun
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: to see her in a different kind of role.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: It's funny, I didn't pay that much attention to not
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: liking her early on, and then as her career went on,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: I got to more and more roles of like, man,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: I don't really like her anymore. And by the time
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: she hit Sex and the City, I really did not
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: like her anymore. But I go back and look at
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: some of those now, and it's like those first couple,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: like this early on, she's almost tolerable, she's even almost
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: cute in this role, which is, I cannot say that
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: in later years, but She, she's almost likable in this
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: and she doesn't really have a whole lot to do,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: but then around like not much later, I remember when
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: we went back and watched, um, I think it's split second,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: the one with Rutger Hauer. She's terrible in that. And it's,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's not like, it's one of those, she's
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: painful to watch sometimes in her acting. Cause that's the thing.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan. big Trouble in Little China fan,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: but if there is an Achilles heel to that movie,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: it's Kim Cattrall. And you work around it, I've gotten
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: to where I'm okay with the fact that she's in
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: there now, but I mean, it's so, I mean, the
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: way she delivers lines, I mean, you've got Kurt Russell
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: delivering these really hammy, over-the-top lines and selling it, and
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: then all she's got to do is be a normal person,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: and she's screwing that up, and I'm just like, yeah,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: so I mean, you watch her and stuff as time
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: goes on, and you realize she's just not really a
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: great actress. Like at one point they worked her into
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: the last Star Trek movie.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 8: Really?
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: You've got her in full. I think she's a, I
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: think she's a Vulcan.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: Some sort of weird alien. So you've got her in
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: all the makeup and she's supposed to be doing this
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: very like subdued, controlled alien character. And she still sounds
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: like Kim Cattrall. She's still delivering these big forced lines
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: like Kim Cattrall does. So yeah, she's, She's turned into
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: a lot of bad performances, in my opinion. I'm sure
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: there are plenty of fans out there of her, but
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: i'm not one of them so this was probably one
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: of her more tolerable roles i suppose you know mahoney
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: i'd like to spend the next month breaking you into
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: little pieces.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: But i won't because you're.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: Bad you're bad for morale mahoney Oh, you look like
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 5: the sweet little boy from next door.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 7: But you don't fool me, oh no. Oh, you're the devil.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 5: And you're rotten to the core.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 8: And you're ruining my chances of training some men who
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 8: might make pretty good cops. I agree, sir.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: I've been saying that all along.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: You make me sick! Thank you, sir.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: I make everybody sick. But yeah, the Steve Guttenberg thing,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: it's funny, yeah, I was going to say, this puts
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: it into context, doesn't it? Because this was the... pretty
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: much the breakthrough role for him like he really i
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: don't know that he had a big signature role before
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: this came along and then later he got a ton
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: of you know your three minute of babies and stuff
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: like that that became huge but i never saw those
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: yeah those are terrible too.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 20: I did see him on an episode of uh party
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 20: down which again in his house and he starts doing
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 20: like a reading of the one guy's script and i'm
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 20: You know, I like that show.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: In his later years, he's actually turned in some better,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: because that's the thing. He's also got that same kind
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: of role on Veronica Mars, which it's the same producer.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: It's the same guy who put that party down together.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: So no surprise that he shows up on it. But
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: that's the thing. He can do that stuff.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 12: Do you remember the Steve Gutenberg conspiracy I talked about a.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: Long time ago? Yeah, you sent me the link and everything.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: You were thoroughly convinced that dude was dead. Yeah, no.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 12: My friend had seen it on TV, and then he
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 12: looked into it, and there was, like, this conspiracy that
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 12: he died a long time ago and was replaced by his, like,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 12: twin brother. And then it was just, like, this really.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: John Gutenberg.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: George Gutenberg.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 12: It was, like, this crazy conspiracy thing. But, you know, no,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 12: I saw... I actually saw the... News clip that he, like, died,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 12: and now you can't find it anymore.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you sent me the page. It was him, like,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: climbing a mountain in what country? It was off in
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: another country. He was climbing a mountain, and he fell
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: and died. And they, like, yeah, you forwarded me the link.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: It was a full, not that they can't make shit
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: up on the Internet, but, I mean, they put a
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: lot of time into it. Like, it looked like a
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: legitimate news source. It had photos of the place where
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: he was climbing. Like, it really was, like, they put
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: a lot of time into this. fake news story.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: I don't see I don't know that it was a
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 12: Was like a fake news story or if it's like
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 12: a it could be a Steve Guttenberg living or dying
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 12: conspiracy thing you know not a.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: Modern yeah because he's so hounded with fans he has
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: to pretend to be dead well he's so when you
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: think you know the big ones it's Elvis Jim Morrison
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: Steve Guttenberg.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: Exactly That's the trinity.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: Or what better.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 12: To make yourself famous again than to fake your own death?
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: It didn't work.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 20: The writer, the McSweeney's guy, heartbreaking work of staggering genius.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: Dave Eggers.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: And now he's like writing a movie or co-writing movies.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: I think he worked on Where the Wild Things Are
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: and then that movie with Meyer Rudolph and Jim Halpert.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: Are we there yet?
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: Okay, he worked on that.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: Anyway, I had some reason for bringing him up.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: Oh, he founded a magazine when he was out of
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: college called Might, and they did a prank thing where
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: they ran a story about the kid on eight is enough.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: Dying adam richard.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: I think so it's sad that i know adam rich.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: The guy that they decided of all celebrities that would
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: be the one that it would be funny they're like
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: to do a prank about and then it went like
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: horribly wrong and they felt awful and it's like wow
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: we didn't know this was going to be such an
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: awful thing we thought it was funny.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: You know sorry adam yeah.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 17: Oh, man.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: Maybe somebody did that with Steve Guttenberg.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: Because he would appeal to you as somebody that's just like, yeah,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 4: you can knock him off and write a story about him.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: It'd be fun. It would be one of those, you know,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: just out of reach enough that you believe it. Like,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: it's not like you're seeing him every week on TV.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: So you'd be like, no, he's not. But at the
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: same time, he's a recognizable name. People still know who
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: he is.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, he occupies that space. area.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: That's a good candidate for that.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 12: And I was thinking about this as I was watching this.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 12: Is Ed Begley Jr. dead or alive? I can't remember.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 7: I never know.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: Again, he's in Party Down. As far as I know,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: he's still up and running in the last few years.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: Based on his marriage.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 4: Because his wife is not really into the whole environmental
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: conscious thing.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: He's always working.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: He has a little show where... I remember the show,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: but Oh, and he was on Party Day.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say, yeah. He's on
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: the old person show, yeah.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: Porn scene.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 12: Well, I couldn't remember if he died in real life
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 12: or if it was like an episode of Veronica Mars,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 12: but for some reason I was thinking he was dead.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: No, they killed him on Veronica Mars.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 12: Oh, yeah, I know that, but... I was thinking that
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 12: he was dead, and then I couldn't remember, and my
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 12: phone was running out of batteries, so I didn't feel
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 12: like looking it up.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: I'll double-check.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: I always feel bad when you hear somebody's dead, and
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: you thought they were already.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 12: That was Andy Reid. Like Elizabeth Taylor.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: I was thoroughly convinced. But, I mean, I'd seen stuff
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: on the news. I thought he died, like, a month ago.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: He was tired of it. Maybe that's what it was.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: Maybe he knew he was going to die, but I
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: was like, didn't he die last month?
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 12: When Elizabeth Taylor died, I thought she'd been dead for years. Yeah.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 12: I seriously did. I was like, she's been dead for
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 12: a really long time. No, no she hadn't.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: I thought she was.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 12: I would have bet my life on.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: The fact that she was dead. You too would be
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: dead then.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 8: I know.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: According to our friends at IMDb, Ed Begley Jr. is
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: still alive, so you can sleep tonight. It's okay.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 12: It's just so weird.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: I'm still not sure. What does it really mean to
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: be alive?
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: Well, of the rest of the cast, I mean, there's
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: not a whole lot of notable.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: The one guy was really bugging me, and then I
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: looked him up, and he played the rabbi on Seinfeld.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, the little accident-prone nerdy guy.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the little guy with the roundish glasses.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: Again, he's funny on that.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: Where do I know that face?
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: You know that rabbis are allowed to date.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: That guy. He's actually really funny. And I mean, that's
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: the thing. A lot of these people are really funny
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: in different situations, but it's, it's, yeah, it's something about that.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: And I think, again, I think it's just me at
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: this point because I was also sitting there not really laughing,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: but I was also thinking of a lot of people
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: I know personally in my everyday life who would turn
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: this on, be it on cable, like get brand nonstop
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: and just sit there and think it's the funniest thing.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, there definitely is a market for it.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: I think I've just moved out of it now. I
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: don't know. It's, it's, I mean, if there was anything I, I, uh,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: specifically a character and then a lot of the gags
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: that went around them that I did end up liking
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: as much as I kind of remembered it. Hightower is awesome. Uh,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: Bubba Smith. I mean, it's a shame once again, if
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: we have lost somebody, we just like two months ago,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: I guess, lost him. But, um, Yeah, it's a shame
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: because he is so good at that. He's good at
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: playing Bubba Smith. It's not like he had to act.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: All he has to do is show up and be
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: huge and kind of the straight man. Everybody else acts goofy,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: and he just looks at him like, what is wrong
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: with you? We're kind of thinking the same thing. So
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: his scenes all kind of work. I was trying to
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: think what the good... Oh, like the brick wall. Watching
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: him just shove over the brick wall instead of climbing... Okay,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: that was amusing. Same thing with, like, we can just
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: rip the front seats out and sit in the back.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: He probably had to do that in real life, because, damn,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: that guy is huge. So, I mean, some of his
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: were probably... How.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: Old is he, actually?
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 12: I don't know.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: Do you want me to find out?
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 12: I don't know.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: No, just like watching him stand there next to everybody
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: else who are like normal-sized human beings. I mean, he's
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: like a foot and a half taller than a lot
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: of them. He's just towering over everyone. So, I mean,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: the sight gag on him works probably as one of
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: the more effective things in the whole movie.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: Game over.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: I still think, I mean, that's the thing. It's funny
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: that that's sort of what's carried over from this is the,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: the Michael Winslow thing. Like he, and watching it again
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: this time, in my mind, he was like a huge
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: part of the movie. He's, he's not even that big.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's got his scenes, but I mean, he's
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: just there for that gimmick almost. I mean, he's, They
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: found his thing that he does, and they were just like, okay,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: we can work this in, and they wrote him this role.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: But within this first movie, anyway, it's like he doesn't
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: even have a really big role. He starts off kind
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: of being like the sidekick to Steve Guttenberg, and then
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: he's sort of not even that. He disappears, yeah. He's
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: just sort of one of the crew as it goes on,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: and he's sort of like every scene, he's sort of
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: with a different character doing different stuff. So it's not
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: even like he's the second man. It's like, I don't know.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: He's just a guy.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: Kind of wish they gave him more to do because
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: the thing is he's really funny and again he's really
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: funny in like other it's weird that like the places
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: he's turned up over the years and you know like
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: stuff he was talking about in the interview I mean
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: he's He's got all these weird roles that get, like,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: shoved in. And most of them have stemmed off of
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: the same character and the same ability to do sounds
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: and voices and stuff that he does. But, yeah, watching this,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: it's weird how much he's not in this one, which
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: I guess he makes up for as being the carryover. Like,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: it's funny that that's... When you mention Police Academy to people,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: that's probably the first thing that they think of. And
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: maybe it's because he followed it so long. Like, he...
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: As I was looking through, like, there's, you know, a
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: couple of them that carry over through the whole series,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: but he is pretty much the only one. There were three,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: the Tackleberry and then the Commander Lessard guy, the old guy.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: Or the Commandeer, yeah, whatever they called him. Those three,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: I think, were in all the movies. But Michael Winslow
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: also followed it to be a regular on the Police
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: Academy The Series on TV. So, I mean, he's stuck
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: with his role. I mean, he realized what, you know,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: what I guess it was for his career and how much,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: you know, people identified him with this role in this series.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, he sort of followed it through to his
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: death and is now they're trying to resurrect it and
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: bring it back. So I think he's, it's funny that
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: he became the connect for everybody. I think even people
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: who don't know that movie that well or don't know
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: the series at all still like associate him and his
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: gimmick of the sound effects, that's what has sort of
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: stuck with pop culture for this movie. It's like nobody
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: really remembers that it's kind of a mediocre comedy, but
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: they remember him being funny, and he does the crazy
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: sound effects, and it's carried over into the pop culture
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: of at least at that point in time. I don't
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: know if it's starting to fade off now. I'm sure
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: kids now don't know who the hell he is.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: Well, I think probably the reason he wasn't more featured
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 4: is The movie isn't really about the characters being, really
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: having anything particular going for them.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 12: No.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: It's about them being flawed, misfits. So that's why you
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 4: get Steve Guttenberg, is because he seems kind of.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: He's the most generic of the bunch, you know? Yeah,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: he's like.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 4: A generic Stanton, but he's not distinctive in... in the
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: way that he seems to have like a, I don't know,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 4: a quality to his personality. He just seems like a
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: reasonably likable doofus in the beginning. And then the other
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 4: guy doing the sound effects, that's almost like a minor
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 4: superhero doofus.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Because he's sort of a.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: a clowning around guy, but he has like unique abilities.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: So if they feature him too big, it just becomes that.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: But they're wanting to have this ensemble of misfits.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: Well, and it's not even like super, I mean, his
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: is actually the most creative. And I think that's why
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: is because it wasn't part of the script. I mean,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: like he said, he got worked in. It was his
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: thing that he did. And they worked what he was
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: already doing into the movie. But if you look at
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: the rest of the cast, it's like, It's the most run-of-the-mill...
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, it could be any Group of Misfits movie.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, you go through and it's already, like, right
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: off the bat, you've got our main screw-up, but then
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: you've got, like, You know, the accident-prone guy, and you've
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: got the Latin lover, and the rich girl who wants
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: to prove herself. The fake Latin lover. The gung-ho gun guy.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's like the two kiss-asses, and the mousy girl.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, everybody is like their thing, you know? They've
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: all got their little gimmick that sells them as to
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: whoever they are in the crew, and that's all they are.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: It's like they never really become anything more than that.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: They're just there to represent... that misfit you know they're
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: like you're the overweight guy and you do you're kind
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: of silly and you got a funny dog and that's
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: your gimmick and does he ever do anything else no
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: not really they just always use him as the weak
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: link and they sort of continue the plot like that
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: but again with all of them it's like nobody ever
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: gets to do anything else really it's just they're there
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: to be that gimmick.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah but i think the what makes the series probably
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 4: why it succeeded is for being inclusive. I mean, you
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: can see that little kids can get the jokes in it.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: And if they're tolerable enough for adults, I don't know.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: I think that's the idea. You know, they start out.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: It was after they elected a woman mayor. She opens
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: the floodgates.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: That's extra funny because I remember when I saw this
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: that first time as a kid. we, the state we're
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: sitting in right now, was one of two in the
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: country that had first elected a female mayor. We were
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: one of the only ones. I'm like, these jokes are
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: about us. It's nothing but jokes about putting a woman
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: in charge of your state. Look what happens. We were
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: sitting in one that was being run by a woman.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: I was just like, oh, good. We're already the butt
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: of your jokes. Thanks.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 4: I think probably the idea there is to show they
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: take that And they sort of, you know, they quail up.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 4: They become, I remember somebody predicting, you know, when Dan
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: Quayle was first on the team, he's like, well, he
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: doesn't seem like anything, but maybe he.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: Will quail up and rise to become.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: The occasion.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 13: Or not.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: But, you know, in the end, very unbelievably, I mean,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 4: like the criminal thing, what the hell was his plan?
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: Which one?
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: None. He had no plan. He just had a couple
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: of guns. Oh, the main guy in the riots? He
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: was just like a smart man.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: He was a crazy person, yeah.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: And so Hightower is like, I want to see you
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: off those two cuffs.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: It's like, oh yeah, I could have done that in
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 4: the last 10, 15 minutes at any time, but yeah, whatever.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: That was a good time.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: It was so thin. But I guess, you know, It succeeded.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 5: It worked.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: So all I can figure is, well, they must have
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: kind of calculated for the general audience.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: They definitely did. But here's my thing, and you were
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: saying it's sort of inclusive, but at the same time,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: and a lot of this comes from the time period,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: it is mid-' 80s, and mid-' 80s, there weren't a lot of
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: rules yet. I mean, a lot of the stuff that
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: became PC the next decade and definitely today weren't in
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: play yet so to me there's also a lot of
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: other stuff going on that was just sort of okay
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 3: like i mean the fact that right off the bat
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 3: they're making sort of the sexist joke of woman mayor
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: there's a few of those you know the whole they
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: all had johnson's joke and i mean there there's a
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: little bit of sexism at work there's very obviously casual
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: racism And in a way, it's like they're trying to
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: make it, okay, this is a bad character. We don't
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: like this kiss-ass guy anyway, so let's also make him
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: a racist. But at the same time, it almost feels
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: like it's also playing to that part of the audience,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: the part of the audience that is probably also thinking
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: the kind of things this guy's saying. It's like it's
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: not really damning him totally. He sort of gets it
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: in the end. But really, at the same time, it
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: seems like they're working both sides of that. Like they're almost...
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: It's just so casual, the way they throw it out there,
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: that it's kind of the way that racist people are,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: that it doesn't mean anything to them. They say it
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: because they say it all the time, and that's sort
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: of how the movie played it. It's the same way.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: It's like, oh, it's okay to just throw these around here,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: and it really doesn't have any weight. Hightower will kick
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: your ass, but good, because he needs to. The casual
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 3: way that they play it in there a couple of
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: times really seems....
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: But it's weird.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: It's like, I don't want to totally condemn the movie
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: for that, because they also have these, like... You know,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: Hightower's a great character, and you get Potts is the other,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: the woman, the mousy girl. And she... I mean, she
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: ends up... What little we see of her is a
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: good character. Like, she becomes friends with Kim Cattrall, and
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 3: you see her, like, you know, going to console Hightower
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: when he gets fired. I mean, there's moments when it's like, okay,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: you're not totally sending it down that road. It's like, okay,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: it's this... weird racist movie, but at the same time,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: it's like they don't care. Like, they're not really taking
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: a stand one way or the other. They're just like, well,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: we're going to write these good characters, and at the
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 3: same time, we're going to call them names, and, you know,
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: we're going to.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 13: I don't know.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: It just felt a little too casual, the way they
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: threw that out there.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 12: I think, like you said, they just wanted the movie
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 12: to appeal to everybody.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's what it was.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: And you sense there's a little hypocrisy in that.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, it's like, we're going to... We're going
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: to throw this out there, so we're going to please
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: the racist bastards that are sitting at home laughing at
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: that because it was funny. But then, okay, we'll let
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: Hightower flip the car over, and that makes it okay. No,
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: not really. You know, it's just like it, I don't know,
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: it's like they were trying to play both sides of that.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 3: And I think that always bothered me. Like, I remembered
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: that being in there, even, you know, having seen it
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 3: years ago, that part stuck with me as I got
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: older and older. I did want to go back and
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: watch it for that reason because I remembered that bothering
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: me even as a kid.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 4: There's a little bit of that, but I think if
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 4: you watch other comedies from, like, that period of time.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: It was going on, yeah.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: There are things that are so striking.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 4: I thought, you know, sometimes if you're my age and
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 4: you have kids, and you want your kids to see
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 4: some of the movies that were around, the ratings thing
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 4: was different.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: Very different.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: It was different, and you'll get a comedy... And it
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: will have, like, some things like, I don't know, voyeurism. Or, like,
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: I think it was, what, Revenge of the Nerds?
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: That's a total R.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you think, okay, now that's not really okay.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: You shouldn't do that, kids.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 3: We have Bush. We have Bush.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: That's for kids, right? I mean, all kids should put
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: in a spy camera and watch.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 4: Let's see, yeah, because that's so much more accessible to kids.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. You know? I mean, that's the links
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: they had to go to in the 80s to see that,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: where now you just log in.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: You log on. You're done. That's all you have to do.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: It is a different world, basically.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 12: Well, I mean, think in, like, the 50s, if a
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 12: kid wanted to see a naked lady, he had to
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 12: draw a picture of one.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, there you go.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 4: I do think a lot of, like, the feminine mystique
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 4: is just, it's gone.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 4: It's gone because it's like that was part of the
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 4: whole peekaboo of.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, you really didn't see... You didn't see anything.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but now anybody can see anything they fucking want.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 12: I think that's why people don't get married as often.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 12: Guys are just like.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: Seen it.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: Bye-bye the cow.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, but no, I mean, like you were saying,
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: in the 80s, I'm not just strictly blaming this movie
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: for doing that. I mean, it was acceptable, and it
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: did turn up in a lot of other movies. But,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, there are ones that sort of knew how
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 3: to play it. I mean, you watched... blazing saddles. I mean,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 3: there's a hell of a lot of quote unquote racist
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 3: things said there, but it's all done responsibly in my mind.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's, it's once again, you've got people, I mean,
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 3: it's written by a black guy and a Jew. So,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's like they, they sort of felt like
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 3: they had license to throw out whatever they wanted and
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 3: they did. And it, but in a way it never
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: feels like they're abusing it. You know, it's like they're
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: doing what was, you know, quote-unquote right for the time period,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: and they're doing their jokes that were funny in the
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: modern day, and they found a way to sort of
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: mash it into this and make it its own sense
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: of humor, and it works on that level, where this
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 3: just seems like it's almost abusing it. And again, not
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: just this, but a lot of movies in the 80s
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: just sort of made use of it because it was
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: still okay to do it, if you wanted. It's funny,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: it just took the overly PC world to sort of
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: take that out of play, and now you don't really
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: get that stuff thrown around anymore. lightly anymore so on
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: that note the other one that i i wanted to
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 3: see what you guys felt on the same thing is
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: the the um the homosexuality in this it's not portrayed
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 3: as badly but again it's put in such a weird
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: light like it once again it almost goes back and
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: forth it's like you've got them you know making fun
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: of the dog because it's queer and And the jackass
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: calling him Mahoney Mahomo, which actually that sounds about right.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: But once again, it's like grade school mentality. It's like
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 3: that's the kind of jokes you get in fourth grade,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 3: probably earlier these days. But, I mean, it's that level
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: of humor, you know?
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 12: That's how I felt this whole movie was.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it is.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: It's definitely not trying to keep the kids at home.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 20: No.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 3: No. But it's funny.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: Kids are a huge audience.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 4: People talk about Hollywood as a business, and people think
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 4: business is run by the bottom line, but they're really
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 4: just run by the people who run them. And if
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 4: Hollywood was trying to make movies just to make money,
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 4: they'd make mostly G-rated movies, but they'd make mostly R-rated movies.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 3: Which is what this is. That's the thing.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 13: I mean, this.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 3: We keep coming back to the fact that it feels
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 3: like it's for kids. Most of the comedy is so
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 3: lowbrow and so slapstick and even just sort of offensively
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: dumb sometimes that you think, well, in a kid's movie
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: you'd write it off as, oh, well, it's a kid's movie.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 3: But not only is this not a kid's movie, it's
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 3: rated R. It's loaded with other weird inappropriate humor and
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: nudity and all this other stuff that I'm just like,
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 3: this shouldn't even be geared towards kids in any way.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 3: So what does that say about the people who did
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: see it?
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 12: I don't think it's geared towards kids so much as
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 12: just really stupid people with bad senses of humor and
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 12: bad taste in movies.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 4: But, you know, there really are a lot of people
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 4: who have very, very weak senses of humor. It's amazing
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 4: if you think about it because, you know, you tend
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 4: to gravitate towards people who, like, will laugh when you laugh. Yeah.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: So you wind up hanging up. But then if you're
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: thrown together with other people, just randomly, there are people
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: who you could not sell a good joke to.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 4: I remember one time, a long time ago, a friend
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 4: of mine told me this joke. It was shortly after
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: Mother Teresa's airplane skidded into a crowd of people who
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 4: had come out to see her. And he told me,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 4: and this was in the news, and he said... But afterward,
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 4: they asked her how she explained it. How could that
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 4: have happened? And she said she thought it was the
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 4: fuel line. And I kind of like that joke, and
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 4: I told it to this guy.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one that it's all or nothing. You either
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 3: get it or you're like, what are you telling me?
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: It's like, that must be some new kind of humor
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: I haven't heard of. I don't know what.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 4: And I could see him trying to work it out,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 4: and it was like, obviously it's not the fuel line.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 4: It would have to be like something with the wheels.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know what she thinks could happen with the
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 4: fuel line that would make a plane skid.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: But he just didn't get the joke at all. And
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: that made it like, I kind of liked the joke,
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: but after he didn't get it, I really loved it.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: It made it ten times funnier.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, it made it.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: Watching him try to figure it out made it ten
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: times funnier.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and so that's the only reason I'd even remember
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 4: that joke, is this guy trying to, like, get it,
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 4: and he just couldn't make it happen.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: I think, like, every time we get.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 4: Together, we've been, like, bringing up these, what was it,
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 4: Lucy told the story of the guy who did the.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: Film of Fat Albert without the people in it. And
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: then there's, like, the peanut strip without the people. And
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: then there's the Garfield without Garfield.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 4: And so it's just John sitting around at home saying things.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 5: Like, Am.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: I pathetic?
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: And then there's an empty frame. And then there's another
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: empty frame.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 3: And then there's a shot of Odie drooling, and that's it.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 12: That would be really sad.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 4: But it's so much funnier because those cartoons existed because...
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 4: They were comforting to people who didn't have, like, a
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 4: very highly developed.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: Sense of humor.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 4: And so now, like, it's possible to mess with them
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 4: a little and make them funnier than they ever were.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 3: Funnier for a different crowd, yeah.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: Reworking it for people with a different type of sense
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 3: of humor.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 4: And I think one of the innovators in that was
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 4: the guy who used to be, like, the editor of
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 4: The Onion, like, way back, James Dickers.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 4: And he did a comic called Jim's Life. And it was,
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 4: there was no joke to it.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: It was just.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 3: It was Jim's Life. It was just.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 4: A guy sitting at home watching TV.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: And then maybe later he goes out and gets food.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: And people hated it.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: This is apartment 3G? Wait a minute.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 12: Well, I mean, it kind of sounds like... Rex Morgan
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 12: and Dee. No, no. Harvey... Picard.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. That's pretty much the kind of stuff he
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 3: was doing, yeah. It's just like, this is.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: What I'm doing.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 12: It's kind of boring and kind of sad.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: Now animate it.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 12: Yeah, that's kind of brilliant.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: Draw me.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 13: You know?
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I guess that's
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 3: the divide on this movie and a lot of movies
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 3: at that point. I mean, it is weird to go
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: back and look at them, but, I mean, this, like...
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 3: Within the first few minutes, you've got a little childish name-calling,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 3: you've got a car stunt, and you've got ridiculous physical humor.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 3: If that's right up your alley, like, if all that
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: is already making you laugh, you're good for the next
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 3: hour and a half. You know, it's like that's, you know,
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 3: plenty of it coming your way. I didn't get it.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, you start watching it, and it's.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 4: Like, oh, my.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 12: Wow.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, more than I remembered, too. It's kind of sad, actually.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: I didn't remember it going down that road. I don't know.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 3: It's a huge success. I mean, yeah, we're seven movies,
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 3: a TV series. They did an animated series. I can't
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 3: remember if that's separate. I think that's a whole career.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 3: And it really, I mean, that's the thing you were saying, like,
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 3: Geared for Kids. It's funny how much it went down
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 3: that road. Like, it really, it starts off rated R.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: I think the next couple probably, I mean, right around
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 3: this time is when they introduced PG-13. So I'm sure
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 3: there were PG-13 in that middle area there. By the end,
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 3: they might have been PG, but I know the last one,
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 3: Part 7, was made for TV. So obviously it's completely
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: PG'd up. And then they go to an animated kid
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 3: series down the line. So I mean, like, it really... Like,
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 3: I guess they realized... And they started taking that stuff
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 3: away as they went. It's like, this one's got nudity
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 3: and all this a little more racy stuff in it
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 3: that they took out by the middle and started dumbing
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 3: it down and making it even more kid-friendly. And by
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 3: the end, it's an animated cartoon series. They realized what
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 3: they were dealing with. It's funny that it took them
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: seven movies to come to this conclusion, but watching the
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: first one, I was just kind of like, yeah, that's
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 3: what we've got here. It's really kind of It is
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 3: just comedies almost geared for kids or people that still
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 3: sort of, and again, I think I'm pretty damn juvenile,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: but I don't know. I've at least developed my comedic
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 3: sense a little bit since then because I didn't get
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 3: it this time. I don't know.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I didn't really get it. I'm not going to lie.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 12: I mean, not like it was like, it was just
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 12: one of those things that's just so below my sense
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 12: of humor that I didn't get it.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 3: It's got, I mean, again, it's got moments here and
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 3: there and it's almost like just enjoyable moments. Not even
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: like funny. Like I said, I never thought things were
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 3: like laugh out loud funny, but just like Steve Gutenberg
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 3: getting hot crayons to do his test. That was amusing.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: You know, it was like, I was like, Oh, look
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 3: at that. That's funny. He's got crayons or just, um, when, when,
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 3: when hooks is driving the car around and singing to
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 3: herself and just, Yay! She's just having a good time.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 3: And I'm just like, that's enjoyable. I liked her character
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 3: at that point. And I'm like, I wish there was
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 3: more going on. Because I want to like everything else
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 3: about it. I like this moment for a second. And
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 3: then it goes back to being dumb again. Then we
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 3: get a horse's ass joke. And I'm just like, really? Yeah,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: so I... I don't know. It's a very frustrating movie
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 3: to watch this time around.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess for me, my feeling was it's just not.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 3: It's just nicer than I am. Yeah, and again, maybe
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 3: that's that broad appeal. But it's so weird, again, that
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  Speaker 3: it's going for this broad appeal and almost like it's
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  Speaker 3: open to everybody, but there's this weird undercurrent of racism
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  Speaker 3: and making fun of gay people and making fun of,
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  Speaker 3: you know, let's make fun of the fat guy because
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  Speaker 3: he's fat. And I'm just like, it's inclusive, but at
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  Speaker 3: the same time it's sort of, i don't know it's
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  Speaker 3: very mean spirited when it feels like it can get
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  Speaker 3: away with it i don't know i.
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  Speaker 4: Would say it is mean spirit i don't know about
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  Speaker 4: very it seems like it's kind of like soft you
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  Speaker 4: know it's.
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  Speaker 3: But the fact that it's like it it sucker punches
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  Speaker 3: you though you know it's so nice and and you
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 3: know dumb down kids comedy here and then it just
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  Speaker 3: comes out with something mean and you're just whoa what
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  Speaker 3: the hell was that where did that come from and
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's weird. And again, I think it
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  Speaker 3: is that product of the times. I think you could,
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  Speaker 3: you could do that in the eighties and it was
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  Speaker 3: still acceptable. And I guess that's why, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Especially I think the gay thing has changed massively.
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  Speaker 3: That's the thing. And that's, that's probably the least, well, no,
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  Speaker 3: there's those weird comments, but like the bar in a
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  Speaker 3: way is not really portrayed negatively. Like it's these weird
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  Speaker 3: homophobic characters that come off looking bad in those things.
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  Speaker 3: So it's funny that that's, probably the funniest running joke
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  Speaker 3: is the fact that they work that bar and you
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 3: guys have only seen the first one that bar is
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 3: a running joke throughout the series there's always somebody trying
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 3: to escape something and they duck in a door and
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  Speaker 3: it's that bar again and they're back in the blue
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  Speaker 3: oyster club or whatever the hell it is and it's
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  Speaker 3: like it's funny because i mean it's it you know
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 3: they're they're the tough guys you know it's like so
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: they can't get out of it but at the same
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: time you know, they're slow dancing. Like that, those scenes, again,
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  Speaker 3: were kind of the more amusing. And I didn't feel
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  Speaker 3: like they were really like in those scenes. I don't
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: feel like they were being like anti-gay, but then there's
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: other comments in there. It's like, doesn't he throw out
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 3: like sleepiness for fags or something? Like, I was just like,
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  Speaker 3: did he really just say that? Again, it's 84. You
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 3: can get away with that. But I was just like,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: So you're presenting, again, it's so unbalanced. This scene over here,
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 3: which just seems kind of funny and isn't really damning
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 3: of anybody other than these weird characters that get stuck
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 3: in there, but we don't like them anyway. So that
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 3: scene could have been all right by itself. And then
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 3: they throw out, you know, I don't like a queer dog.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 3: And I don't know. It's just so unbalanced. But that's,
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that bar turns up at least in
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 3: the first four movies out of the series.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 3: As a continuing running. Yeah, good for you.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 3: And that's, yeah, they continually get less and less funny
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 3: if that's possible. So I.
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  Speaker 5: Don't know.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 12: I don't know.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 3: I like little, little tiny pieces out of it. I
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 3: still like Michael Winslow. I think his character is funny
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 3: and it is funny that he sort of crossed over
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 3: into pop culture while the rest of this sort of
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 3: disappeared off into oblivion. But, um, he's fun. Bubba Smith
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 3: is fun. Um, Yeah, I mean, there's moments here and
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 3: there that are okay, but most of the rest of it,
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: I'm surprised how much it doesn't hold up for me.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I also really watched a lot of anything in
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 9: those years. I mean, when it came out. But, yeah,
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 9: it's dated.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: Definitely.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: It's a very... It's a different world, and it's funny that...
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 3: I mean... It is one of those. Like, I almost
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 3: want to blame the sense of humor on the time period,
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: but that's not realistic. I mean, there's plenty of good
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 3: stuff made at that time, made well before this time,
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 3: that were legitimately funny and had an entirely different sense
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 3: of humor. So it's out there. It's like this was
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 3: just playing on that lowest common denominator level of comedy that,
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know, just doesn't hold up for me now.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 3: But what are you going to do?
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 3: So, I guess that rounds out Police Academy.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 4: Okay, and we're going to come back and do Police
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 4: Academy 2.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 3: And 3 and 4 and Mission to Moscow.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 12: I think I would just have to put in my resignation.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 3: Well, that's kind of why I started with the first one.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 3: I figured we probably weren't going to get to the
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 3: rest of the series. I had best hopes for the
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 3: first one as a nice little tie-in for Michael Winslow,
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 3: but I don't know. It didn't really work out. Again,
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: still like Michael. He's, you know, about the most enjoyable
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 3: thing in the movie. It's a shame he's got such
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 3: a small part in this one, because.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 4: Oh well.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 3: What are you going to do?
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• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: It's part of your problem, you know.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 5: You haven't seen enough movies. All of life's riddles are
• 1:56:09
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• 1:56:10
  Speaker 3: And now, on with the show.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 5: Okay, kids, get out your decoder pins.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know how to make a pin.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 5: I'm going to have to work this out. I don't
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 5: even know what a decoder pin is, really.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 12: Sorry.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 3: You're supposed to be in the club. You're in charge
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 3: of the club.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 12: Come on.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 5: I could tell that tonight's message was really important.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 3: It is time for the Movie Outdown Secret Circle reveal
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 3: of the next exciting episode. And it actually is for
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 3: some of us. I don't think it's either of you guys.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 3: But next up, we will be going on another road
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 3: trip to another crazy convention. Although this one's kind of huge.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 3: I'm not specifically plugging it so far since they're not
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 3: really working with us. So I'm tired of them. But
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 3: we'll still go because we want to go hang out
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 3: with Randy. And last time we met a couple other
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 3: people that we've met through the show. So we're definitely
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 3: going to go there. And I'm working on a nice
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 3: little tie-in for one of the actors. So we'll get
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 3: to that. I'm not sure where the movie will come along.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it will be in the... I'm
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 3: sure there will be at least a couple of episodes
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 3: that come out of this road trip. So I don't
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 3: know if it will be in the first one. But
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 3: somewhere in the next couple of upcoming episodes... Our next
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 3: Sofa Theater feature, we'll be discussing the film Somewhere in Time,
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 3: the 1980 Christopher Reeve, Jane Seymour movie. It should be
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 3: very interesting, and there may, there just may be a
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 3: very special guest involved in that one. You'll just have
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 3: to tune in and find out.
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 12: Is it going to be Jane Seymour?
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 3: It might be if she's at this horror convention that
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 3: we're going to. Wouldn't that be awesome? She still looks good. Yeah,
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to argue that. And she looks very
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 3: good in that movie, by the way.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 12: She looks exactly the same.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 3: It's weird how much she's held up and doesn't look
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 3: badly surgery either. She looks like she's just held up
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 3: amazingly well.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 12: Sleeps in Tupperware like in that episode of Eerie in
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 12: New York.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, man. So, yep. That should be interesting. Somewhere in time.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 3: Next up. And as far as music, again, if there's
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 3: anything that carries through and is the representation of the
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 3: Police Academy franchise, it's that song. That same song kicks
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 3: in every time they go in the bar. So, looking
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 3: into it, that song is called El Bimbo. The one
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 3: that's in the movie is actually a cover of it
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 3: done by some sort of orchestra that does it, but
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 3: it is called El Bimbo. It is a tango that
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 3: is from 1974 from a group called Bimbo Jet.
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  Speaker 12: That's awesome.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 3: So, and yeah, I mean, it's El Bimbo. It's a tango.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 3: You would think this is some sort of.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: You would think a bimbo....
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 4: In American slang, it's a woman who is like a
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 4: tart or a hussy. But actually, in Italian, a bimbo is,
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 4: the O is a masculine ending. So a woman would
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 4: be a bimba. And a bimbo is what was termed
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 4: on Seinfeld, the minbo.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 3: That one did make sense on there.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 12: I'm going to look up what bimbo actually means, because
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 12: there's a brand of food that you can buy at
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 12: Walmart in the Mexican food aisle that's called bimbo.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it might be something there.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 12: It says, the use of this term began in the
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 12: United States as early as 1919, where it was used
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 12: as a slang term for an unintelligent or brutish male.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 3: Interesting that it's gone an entirely different direction as the
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 3: years went on, because it's rare that people use it
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 3: in referring to a man.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 12: Okay, the word derives itself from the Italian bimbo, derived
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 12: from bambino, a masculine gender term that means male, baby,
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 12: or very young, child.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 3: Interesting. Very weird how that has been bastardized over the years.
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 3: But then this is El Bimbo, and it's a tango,
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 3: so you would think it was some sort of Latin-oriented thing.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 3: Then looking into the band, Bimbo Jet is a French
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 3: Euro disco group. Figure all of that out. I don't
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 3: get any of it, but the song is kind of fun.
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 3: So we will go out with El Bimbo. Otherwise, that
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 3: about does it. We will return next week. Same geek time,
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 3: same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 5: Let's dance the bingo.
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  Speaker 14: Bingo, bingo, bingo.
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  Speaker 16: Bingo, bingo, bingo. Let's dance to the beat Slowly, slowly
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  Speaker 16: Over here, over here, over here Over there.
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  Speaker 17: Over there, over.
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  Speaker 14: There Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
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  Speaker 11: Bingo!
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  Speaker 14: Bingo! Bingo!
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  Speaker 12: Bingo!
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  Speaker 3: Bingo!
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 4: Oh, you know, you told your dream. I had this
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 4: dream the other night. I had a series of dreams.
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 4: I woke up feeling horrible. I haven't had a nightmare
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 4: since I was like four or five years old. But
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 4: I had this dream where I was just an asshole.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 3: Wait a minute.
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  Speaker 13: This wasn't a dream.
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