Latest / BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show / When in Doubt, Pit In: We go back to Racing School with EMRA!
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- 0:00Grand Touring Motorsports started as a social group of car enthusiasts,
- 0:04but we've expanded into all sorts of motorsports disciplines, and we
- 0:08want to share our stories with you.
- 0:10Years of racing, wrenching, and motorsports experience brings
- 0:13together a top notch collection of knowledge and information
- 0:17through our podcast, Brake Fix.
- 0:22A little over 50 years ago, a few local car clubs joined together
- 0:26with the vision of building a better place to race in the Northeast.
- 0:29Since then, the Eastern Motorsports Racing Association, better known as EMRA,
- 0:34has grown to become one of the premier sanctioning bodies on the East Coast.
- 0:38EMRA's wheel to wheel racing series is designed to deliver
- 0:41close, competitive racing for all cars of all makes and models.
- 0:45And their goal is to provide top competition without
- 0:48sacrificing any of the enjoyment.
- 0:51EMRA members race hard, And always have fun.
- 0:55Good morning everybody, welcome to Pocono.
- 0:57I'm the chief instructor here at Emron, my name's Eric.
- 0:59I have over 10 years of instruction doing trialers, you
- 1:02know, racers, as well as HPDE.
- 1:04I was the 2018 ST5 champion here at uh, Emron.
- 1:09I founded Grand Touring Motorsports, I run a podcast, a
- 1:11bunch of other kind of fun stuff.
- 1:12My contact information is there, my card is here, if you want to
- 1:15get a hold of me after the fact.
- 1:17Go ahead and talk about what our priorities are for today.
- 1:20So first and foremost, the difference that you'll get in the classroom
- 1:24session here at Amron versus any other club that you go to is that
- 1:27we are gearing you up for racing.
- 1:29I am not here to coddle you, I'm not here to teach you how to drive, you
- 1:32got here safely so we're going to continue with that idea of safety
- 1:35is number one priority, but the end goal here is to get you to progress
- 1:39through the system and become a time trial, which is very different than a
- 1:42club racer or just somebody that does high performance driver's education.
- 1:46Thank you.
- 1:46Safety is number one, number two, I want you to have fun, and number three,
- 1:50you'll learn something as a result of that, and finally, going faster.
- 1:55Going faster is always the last thing, and we'll talk about that in the situations of
- 1:58where you have an instructor in the car.
- 2:00The methodology that we use, going fast, is always the last thing in the
- 2:04equation, and it will come naturally.
- 2:06You will get progressively faster.
- 2:08I have to go back over some of the things that are covered in the safety briefing.
- 2:12We're going to talk about your setup, we're going to talk about how
- 2:14to beat the clock, and we're also going to talk about So we're going
- 2:17to talk about advancement and what advancement is and what it's like.
- 2:20Safety first, there are all different kinds of students.
- 2:23We all learn in different ways.
- 2:25Coaches like myself and like Brad and others that are here, we are trained to
- 2:30adapt to who you are and how you learn.
- 2:32Some of you guys are auditory, some of you are visual, some of you are
- 2:35book people, whatever it might be.
- 2:37Let us know.
- 2:38You're not absorbing the information as it's being given
- 2:41to you from an instructor.
- 2:43Safety first.
- 2:43We have to adjust to that.
- 2:44We're going to learn.
- 2:45We're going to ask you questions.
- 2:46We want you to talk to us.
- 2:47There's going to be debrief sessions.
- 2:48We're going to be working with you.
- 2:49We're investing in you as a driver.
- 2:51So it's important that we understand that.
- 2:53We also need to learn your vocabulary.
- 2:55Certain words are going to be used and we're going to go over that as well.
- 2:58We're going to adapt throughout the day as we work with you.
- 3:01My number one rule, this is to shorten the entire safety briefing from this
- 3:05morning, is when in doubt, pit in.
- 3:08Okay, they talked about the black flag and, you know, losing
- 3:11laps and all this kind of thing.
- 3:13If you see a black flag, the natural reaction for anybody who's ever
- 3:16seen one is, well, was that for me?
- 3:18Was that for the guy in front of me?
- 3:19And then you're going around another lap going, am I going
- 3:21to see another black flag?
- 3:22Again, there's that doubt suddenly in your mind, just hit it.
- 3:25If something's vibrating on the car, something doesn't feel right, hit in.
- 3:31We'll go until it breaks, and then I know it's broken.
- 3:33But again, if there's that as a student, as a beginner, if there's doubt, come in.
- 3:38It's just easier for everybody, and it keeps the flow of the event moving.
- 3:41Number two rule, I guess, is always remember to take a safe approach.
- 3:46to learning anything at the track, right?
- 3:48Especially if this is your first time doing this.
- 3:50When you're driving on the street, I hate to say, anybody can go fast in a straight
- 3:55line by pressing down on the skinny pedal.
- 3:57It becomes really real at a racetrack when you go into a turn at 90 miles an
- 4:02hour and go, how do I get over there?
- 4:05It's not the same as when you're on the highway.
- 4:07It's just a totally different animal here.
- 4:09So safety first.
- 4:10Take a safe approach.
- 4:11Build up to the speed.
- 4:13You guys saw the flag briefing this morning.
- 4:16I'd like to cover it again.
- 4:17I summarize this.
- 4:18Just know your colors.
- 4:19The basics are simple.
- 4:20Red, stop.
- 4:21Green, go.
- 4:22Checkered, it's over.
- 4:23It's all the nuances of the other flags that are really, really important.
- 4:27Different organizations do the flags a little differently.
- 4:30Sometimes you'll see variations in the blue flag.
- 4:33People go, what does the yellow stripe mean versus the orange?
- 4:36I've seen a red.
- 4:37They're all the same thing.
- 4:38NASCAR uses red, we use orange.
- 4:39PCA uses yellow as a stripe on the blue flag.
- 4:42But it all means, hey, there's a faster guy behind you.
- 4:45You're not paying attention, let him pop.
- 4:47All the rest of these, there's really nuances in the yellow
- 4:49flags and all that kind of thing.
- 4:51We're going to talk that.
- 4:52So my friends like to summarize what the flags mean, green is send it,
- 4:56you know, somebody else is sending it too hard, you're last chance to
- 4:58send it, all these kinds of content.
- 5:00But I really want to address some important use cases that they
- 5:03don't talk about in the safety briefings with respect to flags.
- 5:06This, the idea here, is that it gets you thinking.
- 5:08I'm going to ask, and somebody volunteer an answer.
- 5:11After a red flag has been shown, which color should be thrown next?
- 5:17You guys know the answer to that?
- 5:18Black flag.
- 5:19Black flag.
- 5:20Exactly.
- 5:20Why is that?
- 5:21Does anybody know?
- 5:24The reason is, in a full stop condition, as he said this morning, you stop
- 5:27by the closest flagger station.
- 5:30So they can see you, they can take accountability of everything
- 5:32that's going on on the track.
- 5:34The next logical conclusion is that they're going to bring you in.
- 5:36They red flagged that session because there was either a wreck or debris or
- 5:40something they needed to take care of.
- 5:41So that should already be in your mind, a doubt.
- 5:44Red flag.
- 5:45Oh, I'm not sure what's happening next.
- 5:46I'm going to come in.
- 5:47When in doubt, pit in.
- 5:49When the checkered flag is thrown, you should reduce your
- 5:51speed to 55 miles an hour.
- 5:53True or false?
- 5:55Show of hands for false?
- 5:56The answer is false.
- 5:58Right?
- 5:58You can continue at your pace.
- 6:00Obviously you're going to slow down as you pit in and come into pit lane.
- 6:04But there are some people that will drop anchor on track when
- 6:07they see the checkered flag.
- 6:08No.
- 6:09There's a lot of folks out there, especially if you're running in
- 6:11mixed group or you just got advanced.
- 6:13They want to come in, they want to check their tire pressures, they
- 6:15want to check their temperatures.
- 6:17The car needs to be at a certain temperature to do all that kind of stuff.
- 6:19So be respectful of that.
- 6:20Just keep the pace.
- 6:21You can start to back off, but you don't need to just drop down to 45, you know,
- 6:25kind of put your way into the track.
- 6:27When you see a standing yellow versus a waving yellow, does anybody know
- 6:31the difference between those two?
- 6:33It's actually really important.
- 6:35Standing yellow, you see a flagger just holding a yellow flag.
- 6:38It means that there is a precaution condition still existing in
- 6:42that particular apartment.
- 6:43It's not active, it's being taken care of.
- 6:45So it's a reminder, hey there's a dead groundhog here, there's something going
- 6:48on here, there's a car that's off.
- 6:49If the flags are waving, it means a currently active caution condition.
- 6:53Like somebody just went off, they're trying to get your attention because
- 6:57this is new cautionary activity.
- 7:00So that's the big difference between standing and waving.
- 7:02Double versus single, things like that, that's all based on the flag
- 7:05routines and how they like to do things.
- 7:07Some will use double yellows instead of waving yellows.
- 7:10Those are just nuances, but understand standing versus waving.
- 7:14There's an importance factor there, and that translates to black flags as well.
- 7:18A pointed or standing black is very different than a waving black flag.
- 7:22You guys need to come in, when in doubt, pin it.
- 7:27Which flags indicate a caution situation?
- 7:31Yellow.
- 7:31Do you guys know?
- 7:32Yellow's one of them.
- 7:34It's the obvious one.
- 7:35Black.
- 7:36Red.
- 7:36Red, no.
- 7:37Oh.
- 7:38The other one is It starts with a W, the white flag.
- 7:42All of those are cautionary flags, right?
- 7:45Say you're in an organization doing hot pulls like NASA, you've got emergency
- 7:48vehicles out on track, you need to be aware that's a caution situation
- 7:51when you see a white flag as well.
- 7:54After two laps, the debris flag was shown, the hazard was cleared, true or false?
- 8:00False.
- 8:00Yes, the answer is exactly false.
- 8:03You need to be constantly aware of what's going on on the track.
- 8:07You'll hear a lot, especially from instructors, get your eyes up, get
- 8:09your eyes up, you should actually be scanning the asphalt and things in
- 8:13the distance because that gopher or that puddle of oil, or maybe we use
- 8:18some oil dry, which is basically kitty litter on the track, still there.
- 8:21The conditions of the track surface have changed.
- 8:24In bad weather, it's the same thing, drying versus wet and all
- 8:27of those situations in between.
- 8:29You have to be constantly.
- 8:30Scanning up and down, and then thinking about the conditions of the track surface.
- 8:34So just because the debris flag got taken away doesn't mean that
- 8:37the asphalt is completely clear.
- 8:39You need to gauge that for yourself.
- 8:40There's been plenty of people that have been surprised, but I don't know, my
- 8:43car stepped out suddenly in that turn.
- 8:45Well, there was a debris flag that got taken away a couple laps ago, so maybe
- 8:48there's something still there which flags indicate that you should return to the pit
- 8:56black flags and B checkers and B blue flag.
- 9:00It's an assumed, oh, the red flag, right, because the black flag comes next.
- 9:06In the case of an accident, and you don't see a flag at a station, you should
- 9:10assume the following color is present.
- 9:14Red.
- 9:16It's going to be immediately a yellow, followed by a black.
- 9:20So if you see a car go off, and an accident happens in front of you, pit in.
- 9:24Because the next flag out is going to be a black or a red.
- 9:27Caution's going to be thrown, that's obvious.
- 9:29But, again, if something happens and the flaggers haven't reported,
- 9:33you see it, don't just keep going.
- 9:34Just come in.
- 9:35Because you know what happens next.
- 9:36Again, this is thinking ahead.
- 9:38Again, when in doubt, pit in.
- 9:40This one doesn't get covered often.
- 9:41They talked about putting your fist out the window, and we're going
- 9:43to go over this again in a minute.
- 9:45The pit in signal.
- 9:47True or false, is an implied blue flag, is an implied pass, yes or no?
- 9:51True.
- 9:53False.
- 9:54True.
- 9:54The answer is true.
- 9:55If somebody gives you a pin in signal, in this case we're gonna be on the left,
- 9:59but generally on the right, and they're pulling off, that's your indication,
- 10:02that's a passing signal, you can go around them with caution, just be careful,
- 10:05make sure they don't do anything weird.
- 10:07But you don't have to sit behind them.
- 10:08I've seen plenty of people sit behind somebody that's
- 10:10saying that they're pitting in.
- 10:11You can go right around them.
- 10:12That's an implied pass.
- 10:13It's very important.
- 10:14Especially if you're out there, you're competing, you're in the enduro or
- 10:17something, somebody's got to come in.
- 10:18Why sacrifice that lap?
- 10:19You can go right around them and keep going.
- 10:21That is allowed.
- 10:23If you see a black flag and you're not sure what it's for, what should you do?
- 10:26I want to hear you all say it.
- 10:28Hit it in.
- 10:28Hit it in.
- 10:28There we go.
- 10:30I got to cover this too.
- 10:31Never get out of your car unless you see fire or heavy smoke, then
- 10:40you can bail immediately, right?
- 10:42Head to the closest wall to the closest corner station, whatever it is, get away
- 10:47from the vehicle as fast as you can.
- 10:49There are other organizations that actually do exit drills.
- 10:52You have to do within a certain amount of time, get unstrapped,
- 10:54all this kind of stuff.
- 10:55Don't try to be a firefighter.
- 10:57Your car's already on fire and don't forget there are things under
- 11:00the hood that act as catalysts.
- 11:02Opening the hood is one of the worst things you can do if there is a fire.
- 11:06It's just you're adding oxygen to it and you're making it worse.
- 11:09There are tracks out there though, personally going through this situation
- 11:12myself, where they're like, Here's an extinguisher, you can take care of it.
- 11:16And I'm like, I'm not a volunteer firefighter, I'm sorry.
- 11:18Remember, at that point, what flag will suddenly become active?
- 11:22Especially if there's a fire condition, right?
- 11:24Yellow flags, everybody's gonna slow down.
- 11:27They're gonna start black flagging, especially if the car's on fire.
- 11:29They need to take care of you right away.
- 11:32Again, for any other issues, mechanical, you hit the wall, whatever.
- 11:36Stay in your car, keep your helmet on.
- 11:39A lot of people immediately take their helmet on.
- 11:41The reason we tell you to keep your helmet on is because Say in worst case scenario,
- 11:46somebody's following you, you go off and they go off behind you or they suddenly
- 11:50target fixate on you and happen to go off.
- 11:52Maybe there's oil in that spot and they hit you and they hit you
- 11:56and you're in your car without your helmet on, you do the math.
- 11:58Stay with all your safety gear and stay in the car.
- 12:01You are better protected there.
- 12:03Unless there's a fire.
- 12:04There's a lot of words that are going to be used if you
- 12:08have an instructor in the car.
- 12:09I highlighted most of them here and we'll talk about them as we go through.
- 12:12A lot of us refer to this as just technical jargon.
- 12:15Many of us get overloaded with all these terms.
- 12:18But, Break, wait, turn in, turn out, unwind, open the wheel, means to
- 12:24open the wheel up, right, go back to straight, go, aim, means to fixate
- 12:29on something, and then both feet in, especially if you're in a spin condition.
- 12:32The rest of these words are all interchangeable.
- 12:35But what I talked about earlier, about being adaptable, especially with a
- 12:38coach in the car, is that we're going to learn the words that you use.
- 12:42So maybe I'm using aim, and you're like, focus.
- 12:44Alright, well I'm going to change to focus, because that resonates with you.
- 12:47That's the word you've told me that your brain is processing.
- 12:50So we're going to work with you on this.
- 12:51But there are these basic, you know, eight or ten terms,
- 12:54and you're going to hear that.
- 12:55Instructors are super concise, right?
- 12:57They're, in the beginning, repetitive on every corner.
- 12:59Do this, break here, turn now, gasp.
- 13:03If you're having a conversation in the car, you're not learning anything, right?
- 13:06It should be very direct, especially in the beginning, as somebody
- 13:09who's doing this for the first time, is what you need to do.
- 13:11We need to get you acclimated and oriented to the track as quickly as possible.
- 13:15So it means that you're going to be in a group of mixed Skill levels.
- 13:18You're going to have people that have been in red because the green students
- 13:21run with the red at the same time.
- 13:22They're out there solo, and they're mixed in.
- 13:25So we want the communication that we have, like we do with the track, right?
- 13:29Flags are our way of communicating, or the track communicating with us,
- 13:33the way we communicate to each other.
- 13:34We don't have comms in the car like they do with World Challenge or IMSA.
- 13:38You know, we can radio back and forth.
- 13:39The only thing we have are hand signals.
- 13:41And the hand signals need to be clear, they need to be early,
- 13:44and they need to be very direct.
- 13:46They cannot be ambiguous in any way.
- 13:48So I like to cover what a passing signal looks like.
- 13:51When you're passing on the left hand side, you want somebody to go around you on that
- 13:55side of the car, the left side of the car.
- 13:56It's demonstrative.
- 13:57It's big movements.
- 13:591.
- 14:005 per car.
- 14:01Go around me.
- 14:03If you want somebody to tuck inside of you on the right side
- 14:05of the car, up and over the roof.
- 14:07Get that arm under.
- 14:08None of these, like, T Rex arms.
- 14:10You see this all the time with the Miata guys.
- 14:11No offense.
- 14:12You have the smallest car in the world, and you can't get your arm out the window.
- 14:15I don't get it.
- 14:16Get them up there.
- 14:17Make it known that you want these people to go around you.
- 14:20Just be clear and be direct.
- 14:22No confusion.
- 14:22And it's 1.
- 14:235 per vehicle.
- 14:25So if you have two cars behind you, 1.
- 14:275.
- 14:28And then the next one.
- 14:29Now there's little two fingers, I can't see that.
- 14:32The other thing is, we tell people, not only for your own safety to
- 14:34wear gloves, get yourself gloves, get high vis colors, right?
- 14:39Because if you do this longer term, especially as you move up, a bright
- 14:42orange, a bright yellow is a lot easier to see, and I know I'm a hypocrite
- 14:45because I wear black all the time, but seeing that orange come up over the
- 14:48roof, boom, there's my passing signal.
- 14:52You are not allowed to pass until somebody gives you a point by it.
- 14:55So what does that mean?
- 14:56There's a negotiation there between you and the other car, whether
- 14:59you're the chasing car or you're the car that's being pursued.
- 15:03Waving in the mirror is what everybody says, but it's nuanced as well.
- 15:08If you're chasing somebody, And they say, they tap on the mirror and
- 15:11say, Hey, I see you there signaling behind say, yeah, it's over.
- 15:14Good.
- 15:15I'll give you a point by soon.
- 15:16You can't wave in the mirror either.
- 15:19You have to wait under it to say, Hey, I got you.
- 15:21Because if you have somebody behind you, then they're going,
- 15:23Hey, he's going to give me a pass.
- 15:24And then it gets all confusing and people, you know, again,
- 15:27miscommunication need to minimize that.
- 15:29So all you have in the car are your two arms.
- 15:32I know it's very busy, especially in a short course like we have today.
- 15:36Left arm is always commands.
- 15:38Do this.
- 15:39Pass me here.
- 15:40Pass me there.
- 15:41Inside the car is signals back and forth.
- 15:43You're communicating with the other car saying, no, I just
- 15:45want to follow you right now.
- 15:46Or, yeah, I got you.
- 15:47I see you're back there.
- 15:48I'm going to set this up as soon as I can.
- 15:50If you guys come to that agreement, that's what we try to teach you
- 15:53this stuff, common language amongst all of you, it becomes very easy.
- 15:56Passing is fluid.
- 15:57It's early.
- 15:58It can be done seamlessly.
- 16:00And we'll talk about doing it early and passing strategy and things like that.
- 16:05As I said before, pit in, fist out the window, 90 degree elbow.
- 16:09I mean, kart racers do this and they don't have windows, right?
- 16:11I'm pitting in.
- 16:13It's a universal signal for I've got to come in, you know,
- 16:15whether you have an issue or not.
- 16:16But again, it's an implied pass when that pit signal is out the window.
- 16:20Bonus question, which way are we going?
- 16:22I can't tell you how many times I've seen this before.
- 16:24I guess a helicopter is passing me, right?
- 16:27This is not a point by.
- 16:28It doesn't mean anything to anybody.
- 16:30It's either out or up and over, right?
- 16:33You gotta get that arm up and over the roof.
- 16:35Alright, still talking about safety and talking about
- 16:37driving technique, especially if you're out there by yourself.
- 16:40A lot of people talk about the ergonomics of seating position.
- 16:43I'm not here to tell you how to put your seat.
- 16:45There's got to be X amount of inches from the steering wheel.
- 16:47You know, I don't want to see anybody like lean back, but there's three
- 16:51different hand positions you can use when you're driving a car out on track,
- 16:54especially when you're competing.
- 16:55You can go with the classic 10 and 2.
- 16:58You can do 9 and 3, and then what we call low grip or cart style, which is 7 and 4.
- 17:01A lot of guys are comfortable with that because they don't
- 17:03have to put in a lot of movement.
- 17:04The idea is that you still have the same range of motion when you're working
- 17:08the steering wheel at that point.
- 17:09No one handed, no resting on the shifter, none of that kind of stuff.
- 17:13Put your hands in position.
- 17:15Because remember, this isn't like driving on the street.
- 17:17And when you go to a more complicated track, let's say like
- 17:19Shenandoah Circuit, right, that Emra goes to, 17 turns in 2 miles.
- 17:24You never get a break.
- 17:25So you need to know exactly where your hands are because you're shuffling
- 17:28all the way through that track.
- 17:30Leads us into a segue about fixed steering versus shuffle steering.
- 17:34So a lot of guys, when they first get out there, their first time,
- 17:37they're anxious, they're nervous.
- 17:38I've seen some guys just vein out, they're gripping the steering
- 17:41wheel like they're at the gym.
- 17:42It's like, chill out, relax, find a comfortable arm position in any
- 17:46one of those three positions, and just work with the car, right?
- 17:49Don't overstress.
- 17:50But, be mindful, every car is different.
- 17:52You need to learn what the kind of steering ratio is.
- 17:55Don't forget that.
- 17:55I hate to say the term, like trucks, and others are like Mini Coopers,
- 17:58where they're like go karts, right?
- 17:59So you get into this debate, and some people, it's almost a religion, they're
- 18:03like, never move your hands from the steering wheel, just pick your position.
- 18:08And then when they end up in, I hate to say it, a Code Brown moment,
- 18:11they're doing one of these numbers, because their steering ratio is
- 18:14so big, they can't turn anymore.
- 18:15And they're like, well, the car won't go!
- 18:18Well that then gets into a debate about shuffle steering.
- 18:21There's the classic shuffle steering, where you're doing all this
- 18:23movement, and it's not efficient.
- 18:25for driving here on the track, and you see a lot of autocrossers shuffle steer.
- 18:29What I try to propose to people is a combination of the two.
- 18:33It's a pre placement or pre positioning of your hand, and you bring it to the
- 18:37point where you want to execute that turn.
- 18:40So your steering wheel may be turned down here, but your hand is
- 18:43right where it needs to be at like 10 and 3 and whatever, so you're
- 18:45doing like a slight shuffle steer.
- 18:47You'll learn all this kind of stuff, and your instructors will
- 18:49work with you on like what's the best approach, learning about your
- 18:52car, you know, things like that.
- 18:53But hand placement and how you use it.
- 18:58You're going to realize how short this is and how busy it is at the same time that
- 19:02you're going to need to find something that gives you a nice rhythm to work with
- 19:05the car through these chicanes as you're, as you're getting through the program.
- 19:09And again, everybody's got their style.
- 19:11I'm not here to critique, but your instructor is going to work with you on
- 19:14what's safe for track use versus driving on the street and all that kind of stuff.
- 19:18Other things I want to address with respect to shifting.
- 19:22Show of hands who's in a manual transmission car.
- 19:25Okay, good amount of you.
- 19:26So this is really important for you guys.
- 19:28It doesn't really get talked about a lot.
- 19:30Because again, the assumption is you know how to drive.
- 19:32But there's a lot of mistakes that have been made over the years with respect
- 19:36to, You know, you hear a guy, I blew up my transmission, or I money shifted,
- 19:40and you know, I flipped the car over.
- 19:41You hear all these ridiculous stories, these big fish stories,
- 19:44but they're actually true.
- 19:45And some of it comes from really, really simple things that we have forgotten from
- 19:50driving on the street for so many years.
- 19:52We all sort of learn how to overhand shift, right?
- 19:54Kind of just meatball the shifter and go through the gears.
- 19:57What ends up happening is, this is a physiological thing.
- 20:00When we shift that way, the natural tendency for our
- 20:04elbow is to come to our hip.
- 20:05It's just how our body is designed.
- 20:07So you hear the guy say, I'm going to shift it.
- 20:08I grab second gear instead of fourth, coming out of fifth
- 20:11gear, going into that turn.
- 20:12Why?
- 20:13Because you grabbed it like this, and pulled it towards yourself, and yanked
- 20:16second gear, and that was the end of that.
- 20:18So, what we've done is we've come up with a couple alternatives, and you can try
- 20:22these, and practice them on the street.
- 20:23If you're not comfortable doing it here at the track, you can practice
- 20:26in the paddock, whatever have you.
- 20:27The overhand shifting method, kind of still continue that, but what we recommend
- 20:32is moving to what is called palming.
- 20:34So you're kind of slapping 3rd and 4th by using your palm to move the
- 20:39gear selector through 3rd, that way.
- 20:41So that way you're not grabbing it and pulling it towards yourself.
- 20:45There's also the concept of underhand shifting, which is what
- 20:48I do, which physically forces the shifter away from my body.
- 20:52I'm pushing it away, and I'm pulling it back this way, especially when
- 20:55I grab fourth and sixth gears.
- 20:58There's no way for me to put it in second gear because I can't physically
- 21:02do this without becoming a T Rex.
- 21:03So shifters.
- 21:08And we'll talk more about feet position as we go through
- 21:11advanced driving techniques later.
- 21:12Important reminders!
- 21:14They probably covered this already.
- 21:16If they didn't, I'll remind you again.
- 21:17No loose art in the car.
- 21:19If you have something in the windshield, like a suction cup
- 21:22for a GoPro or whatever, a lot of tracks require you to tether it.
- 21:25Tethering is just put a zip tie on it somewhere on a
- 21:28bench or something like that.
- 21:28Because if that suddenly comes loose with your windows down, it
- 21:32flies out the window, is now a projectile, and we got a debris flag.
- 21:36And potentially meatball fly if it busts somebody's windshield.
- 21:38So anything like that, make sure it's secured in the car.
- 21:42And I know the ram mounts are awesome, but they, on a hot day with the
- 21:46right angle, they will pop loose too.
- 21:47And you see GoPros just flying out the car or bouncing around inside your car.
- 21:51You create another hazard at that point.
- 21:53Clean and clear windshield.
- 21:55Again, your seating position is up to you and your belts.
- 21:57Make sure that everything is tight.
- 21:59If you have a three point system and not like harnesses, like some of us have,
- 22:03consider getting yourself a CG lock.
- 22:05Especially if you find yourself kind of loose in the car and
- 22:07fighting in the car, CG locks are great to keep the belts tight.
- 22:10Sometimes guys have them here where you can buy them from like safety providers
- 22:13and there's that very cheap upgrade for the car and for your safety too.
- 22:17Something else they didn't talk about and it's not going to exist on this
- 22:20track configuration is the blend line.
- 22:23Does anybody know what the blend line is?
- 22:25You do.
- 22:26You got all the answers.
- 22:27It's when you're coming out of the pits onto a hot track or even not a hot track
- 22:31and you You want to stay in that line, because if you go out, you, if someone's
- 22:36coming behind you, they can smack and just cause a collision all around.
- 22:39So safety is always the number one priority, right?
- 22:42And there are certain tracks that we joke, like Shenandoah Circuit
- 22:45and Summit, where's the blend line?
- 22:47It's about three feet long, because there is none, right?
- 22:50And Pocono North is going to be very similar too.
- 22:52They're going to lead you out onto that bowl as you come around.
- 22:55But the blend line is really, really important.
- 22:57As you come to more EMRA events, as you go to other places and you experience
- 23:01more tracks, The idea is that if there is a condition at a track where there is
- 23:05a blend line, the direction is to take that line, to stay to the right, all
- 23:09the way to the apex of the first corner.
- 23:11And there's some tracks, like Summit Point Main, where it's like
- 23:14a half a mile away, and people are like, oh, I can just cut over.
- 23:17No, you can't.
- 23:18There's something known as track etiquette, and the etiquette
- 23:21everywhere you go in every club is taught the same way.
- 23:23Maintain that blend line.
- 23:24The idea is, at some point, the straightaway's downhill, it's
- 23:28blind, you got somebody coming out of turn 10, rocketing on you at
- 23:32140 miles an hour, and you just decide to cut over and start finish.
- 23:35That doesn't work.
- 23:36That's a recipe for a wreck.
- 23:38So the blend line's really important.
- 23:39Here, again, you're going to be pushing out into the bowl and coming down.
- 23:43You know, one car at a time, they're going to let you guys out,
- 23:45but the blend line is important.
- 23:46All right, so quick do's and don'ts.
- 23:48I won't go over all these.
- 23:50Make sure when you're out there, check your flag stations, keep your eyes up.
- 23:54Smooth inputs, right?
- 23:56We'll talk more about what smooth means.
- 23:58Be very direct with the car when you're on track.
- 24:00This isn't a lazy river, you're not on the street, turn in, turn, right?
- 24:04Commit that car.
- 24:05When you're braking, commit, be confident.
- 24:07No double breaking.
- 24:08You're like, break once, you realize, well, I slowed down too much.
- 24:11Well, then break later, right?
- 24:12It needs to be very consistent, very direct inputs to the car.
- 24:15When we talk about advanced driving, some of these things go from don'ts to
- 24:19dos, like bumper hanging, showing that you want to pass, things like that.
- 24:22Don't force it.
- 24:24If the car tells you a lot when you're out on track, if it doesn't
- 24:27feel right, it's not right.
- 24:28It's like dancing.
- 24:28It's like a foreign language.
- 24:30If it doesn't sound right, if it doesn't feel right, it's not right.
- 24:32Your first session's on track.
- 24:33There's four steps to mastering any track.
- 24:36This first session you go out is orientation.
- 24:39You should not be going out there trying to put your best lap.
- 24:42It's cold.
- 24:43The sun is now up, the asphalt hasn't heated up, your tires aren't hot,
- 24:46your brain's not hot, the car's not hot, nothing's up to temperature.
- 24:49Use this opportunity to just learn where the track goes.
- 24:53How many right turns are on Pocono North?
- 24:55How many of this, you know, what kind of speed is out there?
- 24:57You know, how big is this corner?
- 24:59Things like that.
- 24:59Just get used to the track.
- 25:00Where are the flag stations?
- 25:01Where are the apex cones if they exist?
- 25:04Make mental notes of everything that's going on.
- 25:06Your second session should be all about memorization.
- 25:09Do it this way, do it that way, especially if you have an instructor in the car.
- 25:12He's going to tell you certain things, you want to do it that way, right?
- 25:14He's giving you the foundational building blocks to become a better driver.
- 25:17So, memorization.
- 25:18Just try to do it over and over again.
- 25:20Memorization brings consistency.
- 25:22And then from consistency, if you can master that, I'm not saying you
- 25:25have to do every turn perfectly, it's sort of like a busted clock, right?
- 25:29It's right there twice a day.
- 25:30Well, the same thing is true.
- 25:31As long as you're messing up the same way, in the same turn, and not
- 25:35doing the same turn a hundred ways, then we can work with that, right?
- 25:38Especially instructors, they can dial you in, we can work specifically on a
- 25:41corner, and if you're doing it wrong the same way, it actually makes it easier.
- 25:44So be consistent.
- 25:46And then after that, speed.
- 25:48By the end of the day, you'll realize how much faster you are, right?
- 25:51Then you were at the beginning if you follow these steps if you try
- 25:53to go out there now and just send it You're gonna have a miserable
- 25:56day Remember that Brad's here.
- 25:59I'm here.
- 25:59There's a couple other folks you can talk to you and you're not alone Don't
- 26:02feel like you're out there just sort of figuring out if we can put somebody in
- 26:05the right seat with you That's great.
- 26:07If you have a little bit more experience put you out there solo
- 26:10Work with each other as well.
- 26:11Buddy up with somebody.
- 26:12Hey, let's do some lead follow.
- 26:14You've done a bunch of track days.
- 26:15This guy in the cannon here, he might be like, Hey, I'll take two of you behind me.
- 26:18Just follow me around.
- 26:20And then you can break up.
- 26:20For those of you that do have a little bit more experience, and
- 26:22Red especially, try to help me out.
- 26:24Try to help Brad out in that respect too, as if we can do that.
- 26:27Then, you guys are working together.
- 26:29Again, you're not alone.
- 26:30This sport is not a sport of just solo people.
- 26:33It's not a team sport like football or soccer, but we do work together.
- 26:37Next session we're going to talk about vehicle dynamics and all sorts of other
- 26:40fun stuff and advanced driving techniques.
- 26:42Everybody come back here, we're going to do a download, talk about what the first
- 26:45session was like, and we'll go from there.
- 26:48Thank you.
- 26:56Well, most of you guys are back, so how was that first session?
- 26:59Pretty good.
- 27:00Yeah?
- 27:00No issues?
- 27:01Do you have thumbs down?
- 27:02Why?
- 27:03Um, my VTEC's so long, I don't know how to get into it.
- 27:06So, I gotta use a little bit.
- 27:08That's a racer right there.
- 27:10Do you guys know why?
- 27:11First thing you learn is excuses.
- 27:15Alright, so any other critiques, questions about the first session?
- 27:17Go ahead.
- 27:18There's that 86 NASCAR style car.
- 27:20Uh huh.
- 27:21No passes.
- 27:22The late model?
- 27:23Oh, yeah.
- 27:24Does he have a window net in?
- 27:25I didn't check.
- 27:26I couldn't see.
- 27:27I'll ask Brad to check.
- 27:28Do you know if he has a window net?
- 27:29I think he does.
- 27:30Yeah, so he's not going to give 5s.
- 27:32That's fair suggestion.
- 27:32And if you're catching a late model, we'll get that taken care of because
- 27:36he can pull down the window net.
- 27:37He doesn't need it.
- 27:38Yeah, that's true.
- 27:39Yeah.
- 27:39Alright, session two, we're going to talk a little bit more about dynamics,
- 27:42setup, modding, things like that.
- 27:44Because as you're here, as racers, everybody gets hooked right away.
- 27:47We want to go faster, and they think the answer is, let's bolt on more stuff.
- 27:50So we'll get to that as we go along.
- 27:52So we're going to talk about mods, we're going to talk about bananas, we're going
- 27:54to talk about upkeep, which is really, really important to your track weekend
- 27:57and the success of your track weekend.
- 27:58And then we're going to talk about driving by feel.
- 28:01And that'll lead us into advanced driving topics.
- 28:03I didn't talk about this in the safety briefing, but dehydration is bad.
- 28:07Captain Obvious to the rescue here, but it's important for both
- 28:11you to stay hydrated, but your car to stay hydrated as well.
- 28:15A lot of people come in and they hear, I gotta check my tires.
- 28:18First thing I gotta do, I gotta check my tires.
- 28:20After you're done with that, lift the hood.
- 28:22Start making sure that there aren't any leaks.
- 28:24Making sure that your antifreeze isn't the color of iced tea.
- 28:28A lot of people forget about that stuff.
- 28:30Engine maintenance is as important as physical maintenance as well.
- 28:33You got it.
- 28:33Are you low on coolant?
- 28:35Especially in the summer time when you're running these vents.
- 28:37Today it's supposed to get up to about 80 degrees.
- 28:39The internal temperature of your car is going to be about 140 when
- 28:41the sun is beating down on you.
- 28:43The engine temperature, yeah the gauge says 190.
- 28:46Exhaust temperatures are 1300 degrees.
- 28:48That engine compartment gets hot.
- 28:50So you need to check on things, make sure things aren't breaking down.
- 28:52You need to constantly be following up with your car throughout the day.
- 28:56Everybody talks about mods.
- 28:57We're talking about progression.
- 28:58How do I progress?
- 28:58How do I progress?
- 28:59You know, all these kinds of things.
- 29:00It's the first three mods you should ever consider when you're driving.
- 29:03When you're doing any of these events, whether it's DTE, Time Trials,
- 29:06Club Racing, or otherwise is tires.
- 29:10You know, if you're out there on all seasons, you might
- 29:12want to reconsider that.
- 29:13Granted, if you're running your street car, I get it, not everybody
- 29:16wants to haul around multiple sets of wheels, things like that.
- 29:19The next one is always a big brake kit.
- 29:21I gotta have bigger brakes.
- 29:22I got news for you guys.
- 29:23Anybody here run a Miata?
- 29:25Except for Mark.
- 29:26You know the solution to big brakes, right?
- 29:28Is to remove weight, right?
- 29:31So if you're building your car, you don't necessarily So, um, I'm going
- 29:36to go through a couple of things.
- 29:41I'm going to go through a couple of things.
- 29:47I'm going to go through a couple of things.
- 29:54Don't mess with the car.
- 29:55The more you mess with the car, you're raising the bar to a point you can't
- 30:00exceed the capabilities of that vehicle.
- 30:01So that's the only thing you have to remember.
- 30:03I want to go faster.
- 30:04Great, we want to go faster.
- 30:05How many track days do you have?
- 30:06We're only doing one track event.
- 30:08You need more seat time.
- 30:09Don't worry about the tires.
- 30:10Don't worry about the brakes.
- 30:10Don't worry about removing the passenger seat.
- 30:12All the fun cultural things and time trials we've grown accustomed to.
- 30:16So seat time is really important.
- 30:17Again, that's why you're sitting in this classroom.
- 30:19Things you can do for yourself today, say you are running all season tires, borrow
- 30:24a little trick from the autocrossers.
- 30:25Dial in the air pressure, right?
- 30:27Oh, the car doesn't want to turn in.
- 30:29Well, do you have the right air pressure, right?
- 30:30Is it driving off the nose, you know?
- 30:32Maybe your car's set up a little loose, it likes to drive off the rear end.
- 30:35If you chop the tires, shoe polish or grease pen or paint pen or whatever,
- 30:39as you go out there, it's going to rub that off of the sidewall.
- 30:43You're going to go up over the edge, come down all the way to the You can even mark
- 30:47the wheel if you want to see how much rotation You can see how good the seal
- 30:50is on the tire to the wheel, the bead.
- 30:52And you can see all that just by marking the tire.
- 30:54Motocrossers still do this to this day to figure out where's the optimal
- 30:58tire pressure for the vehicle.
- 31:00Street tires need more air because their sidewalls are not reinforced.
- 31:04Race tires generally have some sort of extra material
- 31:06in there to keep them stiff.
- 31:08And there's positives and negatives to both of that.
- 31:10The reason I bring it up is a street tire needs to be overinflated and you have
- 31:14to manage it this way to figure out do I need to bleed air, do I need to do this.
- 31:17A race tire because it's so stiff.
- 31:21You don't sometimes remember, or you're so busy in the morning, you
- 31:24haven't got all that coffee in.
- 31:25I have 15 pounds of air.
- 31:26I know guys that have done this, they go out on Hoosiers, and they're like, I spun,
- 31:29I don't know what, the car didn't grip.
- 31:31And he checks his air pressure, he goes, it's basically flat.
- 31:34But when he was sitting in the paddock, it looked completely, you know, full of air.
- 31:38So you've got to monitor those tires.
- 31:40Also remember that a properly inflated tire on track is 100
- 31:45percent opposite of the street.
- 31:47When you set your pressures at home, you're doing what the car is doing.
- 31:5135 pounds, blah, blah, blah.
- 31:52At the track, it's always hot.
- 31:55Always set your pressures after you come off track.
- 31:58It takes two sessions to properly dial in a tire, okay?
- 32:03So they have to come to temperature and you bleed them down.
- 32:05They'll come to temperature again, you bleed them down.
- 32:07By your third session, they will be rock solid when they cool off.
- 32:10By the way, hot tip.
- 32:12When they do cool off, which takes about an hour and a half or so,
- 32:15which is great to do at the lunch break because it's long, okay?
- 32:18Check that pressure.
- 32:20That's generally your cold starting pressure.
- 32:22Now you can adjust for really, really cold days and wet days, but that's going
- 32:26to be your starting baseline number.
- 32:28So maybe that's 28.
- 32:29That's where you should be starting because you know that that tire
- 32:32is going to grab six or eight pounds as it heats up on track.
- 32:35But again, you're working with a hot pressure.
- 32:38Go research the tires you bought.
- 32:40Everybody goes, yeah, what are you running?
- 32:41Oh, I got Falcon 660s.
- 32:43Oh, I got Hoosier R7s.
- 32:44I got this.
- 32:45I got Toyos.
- 32:46Great.
- 32:47Do you know anything about that tire?
- 32:48No.
- 32:49You know what your buddy knows, and we're all kind of guessing, but if you go to
- 32:52Hoosier's website, or Toyo's website, there's information about the tire.
- 32:56There's actually maximum recommended hot pressures.
- 32:59A Hoosier is generally 36 pounds, by the way, on a car
- 33:02that weighs about 3, 000 pounds.
- 33:04So, you know, kind of do the mental math there, or the mental gymnastics there.
- 33:07Look that stuff up.
- 33:09It's all available online.
- 33:10That's the first thing you should be dialing in when you're setting up the car.
- 33:15Brakes.
- 33:15Ha ha.
- 33:16All they do is just slow you down, you don't need brakes, right?
- 33:19Just chuck the car in the corner.
- 33:21Honestly, one of the things you can do for yourself, especially if you're
- 33:24coming here with a street car, and if you have the wherewithal to change pads
- 33:28yourself, have multiple sets of pads.
- 33:30But if you can't do that, try to find yourself a pad that is not a
- 33:35race pad, but isn't a Duralast pad over the counter from Advanced Auto.
- 33:39You need something sort of in the middle, like an autocross pad, that will hold
- 33:42up to the stress, that to the stress.
- 33:44and the heat of braking on track.
- 33:46Braking on track is not like braking on the street.
- 33:49Your pads do not get an opportunity to cool down.
- 33:53That what you have to look into, and we actually did a podcast episode about
- 33:57this with Porterfield, brake pads have an operating temperature that they run in,
- 34:02optimal operating temperature they run in.
- 34:04They don't like to be above it, they don't like to be below it.
- 34:06So, Some pads are more aggressive than others, track pads don't like to be
- 34:09cold, they have to get heat in them.
- 34:11Street pads don't like to be super heated because then they don't stop and you get
- 34:15brake fade and all these kinds of things.
- 34:17So researching your equipment is really important, keeping an eye on that stuff.
- 34:21More importantly is keeping an eye on pads throughout the day.
- 34:25I can't tell you how many people have come into the pit running on
- 34:29their car, they're like, oh the car doesn't stop, and they come in and
- 34:32they're like on the backing plates.
- 34:33It's a miracle that they're still out on track and haven't had an
- 34:37accident or hit somebody else.
- 34:38Because how is this car stopping?
- 34:39Corvettes.
- 34:40Anybody got a Corvette in here?
- 34:41A big, heavy American car?
- 34:43They are notorious for eating brake pads, like two sessions and they're done, if
- 34:48you're running the stock GM OEM patents.
- 34:51So what have you got on your car?
- 34:52Think about that.
- 34:53You drove here, or maybe you trailered here.
- 34:55If you're trailing here, maybe you're a little bit more advanced,
- 34:57but again, look into your equipment.
- 34:59Not just take the recommendation of your friend that says, well, I run Hawk 60s.
- 35:03Great.
- 35:03Why?
- 35:03Those pads might not actually be getting hot enough for your Miata to be affected.
- 35:08Maybe you need a CarboTac or a Hawk Blue, something lower on the
- 35:10scale that heats up more quickly.
- 35:12Again, do the research.
- 35:13Talk to veteran racers as well and get an idea of why they chose the
- 35:17equipment they have and see what works.
- 35:19And obviously, talk to other people with cars like your car.
- 35:22Have If you're the only one in the parking lot with, uh, you know, I hate to
- 35:25say it, the Kia Stinger that's outside, you're the only one in the parking lot.
- 35:28If you look around, it's Miatas and M3s, and there's a certain formula
- 35:32that works for those cars that's been researched year after year.
- 35:35The other thing I'd like to point out is rotors.
- 35:37They are telltale of what's going on about key transfer, pad transfer, how
- 35:42the pad's wearing down, even if you can't physically see if the pad is cracked.
- 35:45Look at the rotor.
- 35:46The other thing people love to do is you get online, you get on the forums,
- 35:51and you see these cool, like, cross drilled rotors, and slotted rotors,
- 35:54and all this kind of fun stuff.
- 35:56Let me give you a tip from racers.
- 35:57If you look at our cars, it's the cheapest, flattest, largest
- 36:02surface area rotor you can get.
- 36:04Why?
- 36:04It's a consumable.
- 36:06Buying a fancy rotor does nothing but waste money when you're on track.
- 36:09They look great on the street or at the cars and coffee, but what you're
- 36:12introducing is possibility for failure.
- 36:14All those cross drills is an opportunity to crack the rotor
- 36:18and for it to break prematurely.
- 36:20Yes, solid rotors will crack after an entire season of abuse.
- 36:24There is more times than not that slotted and cross drill rotors
- 36:28will fail on a track weekend.
- 36:29So if you came here with those, keep an eye on them while you're
- 36:32here and look for cracking.
- 36:34Micro fissures are okay, but as those start to increase, suddenly the rotor
- 36:39will snap and it'll generally happen on your own track and you're like, oh, I
- 36:42got no brakes and it's not a great day.
- 36:45So keep an eye on your equipment before and after you go out.
- 36:48How many of you have cars, let's say, newer than 2012 that show hands?
- 36:57So, not too many nannies in the room.
- 37:00But, if you're driving a car like the Cayman that has PSM and all these
- 37:04alphabet soup of acronyms that exist, what I recommend to first time drivers
- 37:08on track is leave all that stuff on.
- 37:12Because turning a nanny off is equivalent to adding a mod.
- 37:15Taking away weight or doing something else.
- 37:16You don't know the characteristics of your car yet.
- 37:19Learn how to drive it the way Porsche suppli it, and then when you realize
- 37:22that the nanny is interfering, you're overdr it or whatever have you, you're
- 37:26working with an instructor and like, yeah, I mean we need to turn that off.
- 37:29Or there's different levels, like the Corvettes have like six different levels
- 37:32of traction control and all this stuff.
- 37:34You gotta learn what each of those do.
- 37:35You can't just go from street to track.
- 37:37And you go, oh yeah, the car's amazing.
- 37:39Is it really?
- 37:39Because you've got, then again, moved the bar way out here, and when the
- 37:43car breaks loose on you, you don't really know how to react to it.
- 37:46So it's a gradual approach to learning the dynamics of the vehicle, and
- 37:51increasing your ability as a driver.
- 37:53And I know, everybody's comfortable with their car every day.
- 37:55I'm driving on the street.
- 37:56What the hell are you talking about?
- 37:57It's different here.
- 37:59The conditions are extreme versus when you're on the road.
- 38:02All those nannies, you don't even feel them when you're driving on the street.
- 38:05Here, they will show themselves and they will generally show
- 38:08themselves in a very apparent way.
- 38:10You're like, what is that?
- 38:10What's it doing?
- 38:12There's some sort of nanny getting in the way.
- 38:13We're checking tires, we're checking pressures, we're looking at brakes,
- 38:16doing all this kind of stuff under the hood, making sure the car is
- 38:18healthy, again, more hydrated as well.
- 38:21Never, ever, ever, I see this all the time, tighten your lugs, your
- 38:25studs after you come off the track.
- 38:28You will snap a lug in a stud and then that's your bad news at that point.
- 38:33But, also remember to respect the pattern, right?
- 38:36Let the car cool down, all that other kind of stuff.
- 38:38Respect the bolt patterns, learn it, memorize it, do all that kind of stuff.
- 38:42Also, when you're here at the track, especially if you've done
- 38:45stud conversions, a lot of BMW guys do, Audi guys, or Audi VW guys do,
- 38:49check the recommended torque specs.
- 38:52A lot of guys love to go click, click, and they're, yeah, 100 pounds.
- 38:56Now you're at 110, right?
- 38:57You've overstressed that lug, you've overstressed that stud, especially when
- 39:01they're hot, that's when they break.
- 39:02So, So, what I recommend people is if you like to do the click click type of deal
- 39:06when you're torquing, come off five pounds on that torque wrench because then you'll
- 39:10be right at the number you want to be at.
- 39:12If you're using a gun, make sure you check it because not every gun is graded equal.
- 39:16A lot of them will torque to about 90 pounds and some of them you're like,
- 39:19man, I ran it in and it went click, click, click, and it's on there at 35.
- 39:22Don't ask me why they do that, but you always have to double check,
- 39:25you know, it's all trust but verify.
- 39:27Let's talk a little bit more about modding.
- 39:28Again, we're talking about racing here.
- 39:30This is not a DE organization.
- 39:32This is a racing organization.
- 39:33It's all about time trials and gearing you up to become a full time trialer.
- 39:37Every time you change your car, you change classes within the points allocations.
- 39:43There's a whole episode we did with Cory and John about this, and about
- 39:46how it works and the sliding scale and how you can allocate points.
- 39:49It gets very convoluted and complicated quickly.
- 39:52So you think you're doing something awesome, but these 315 tires on my
- 39:55Miata and it's You know, like a roller skate or a wing or whatever, it's
- 39:59going to move you around and suddenly you find yourself uncompetitive
- 40:03in the class that you got put in.
- 40:04Especially if you're racing for points, you really need to look at
- 40:07the rule book, see what it says, what you are and are not allowed to do.
- 40:11This also translates to other organizations like SCCA, NASA, et
- 40:14cetera, where cars are built to spec.
- 40:17They are built to class.
- 40:18So just bolting on whatever you can find because the Mustang Forum or the Miata
- 40:22Forum said that's what you got to do.
- 40:25Great.
- 40:26Cross match that too, because, like I said, never mod past your abilities.
- 40:31Learn how to out drive your equipment before you mod.
- 40:34Do mods incrementally.
- 40:36Because what I like to tell people is, you know, every mod, every
- 40:40change results in leveling up.
- 40:42But do you have a wind tunnel at yours?
- 40:44I see this constantly, right?
- 40:48Oh, I put canards on, I put an air dam on, I put a spoiler on.
- 40:51If you don't have the physical ability to test those mods, they don't work.
- 40:55I'm going to tell you that flat now.
- 40:56It's just eye candy.
- 40:58You're better off investing in different types of coilovers, different types of
- 41:01brake pads, maybe upgrades on brakes, things like that, removing weight
- 41:05from the car, talking to people that are developing the car that you have.
- 41:09When you look around and you say, Okay, well the M3s all run this same wing.
- 41:15Maybe that's part of spec for NASA, part of spec 3, because it probably is.
- 41:18That's the wing you buy, because that's what's in the rule book.
- 41:22But this sort of stuff, yeah, it doesn't actually work.
- 41:24It looks cool, but it doesn't work.
- 41:27That brings us into driving by feel.
- 41:30This is what you should be learning to do right now.
- 41:32If you have a timer in your car, especially as a student, you have
- 41:35telemetry, you have a Garmin or anything like that, you're maybe trying to do
- 41:39some self study, okay, that's cool.
- 41:42We'll talk more about that later.
- 41:43But right now.
- 41:44All that stuff is a distraction, because what you end up doing is
- 41:47focusing on the fact that it went red, or it went green, or your lap
- 41:50time wasn't the same as the lap time.
- 41:52You're distracting yourself.
- 41:53You're not learning how to drive the car.
- 41:55And because you're distracting yourself, you're not paying
- 41:56attention to what the car is saying.
- 41:58So you need to learn to drive by feel.
- 42:00Driving by feel, if you can master it, is also important if any of you have
- 42:04ambitions on ever becoming a coach.
- 42:07And I bring that up now, a little bit prematurely, because all I have
- 42:11is a coach in the car with you.
- 42:13This is my two buttcheeks, right?
- 42:15This is my, my ass dyno.
- 42:16Tells me exactly what's going on, right?
- 42:18I can feel how the car is shifting around, how it's moving.
- 42:21I'm the G meter in the car, right?
- 42:23So if you can master that as well, then you know, man, this doesn't
- 42:26feel right going into the corner.
- 42:27Maybe that tire's getting a little hot.
- 42:28Something's a little off.
- 42:29It's all these little nuances about the car that it's going to
- 42:32feed back to you through the seat.
- 42:35And if you don't believe me, go look up, uh, Hans Stuck,
- 42:38you guys should know the name.
- 42:39He always said the best tool he ever had in the car was his ass.
- 42:42Right?
- 42:42It wasn't his hands, it wasn't his eyes.
- 42:44It was his two ass cheeks that he was sitting on.
- 42:46Driving by feel is super important, right?
- 42:48You gotta boil it down to the basics, because we're just
- 42:50learning how to drive by feel.
- 42:52So, weight transfer under acceleration and under braking, right?
- 42:55You can feel the car very easily do that.
- 42:58It's when you start putting transfer into turn, how far can I go?
- 43:03When you don't know how far you can go.
- 43:04You can feel it, the tires might scream at you, but maybe you bought autocross
- 43:07tires, like a 200 treadmill tire.
- 43:09You might want to run with the guys here at Emron.
- 43:11Those tires talk to you less and less.
- 43:13The better tire you get, the less communicated they are audibly.
- 43:17So now you need to start looking at chalking those tires, you look
- 43:20at air pressures, and you need to start getting parameters and
- 43:22stuff, figuring out how am I using that, you know, is my camber wrong?
- 43:26Right?
- 43:26And again, I say to people, if you came here with eight degrees,
- 43:30you're going to learn really fast that it's going to be more like
- 43:32two degrees after a while, right?
- 43:33More stance is bad at the track, right?
- 43:35It's great for shows, not good for the track.
- 43:38So again, learn how to drive the car the way it was intended to be driven.
- 43:41How to beat the clock, right?
- 43:43That's what we're here to do.
- 43:45As trialers, I relate this 100 percent to qualifying.
- 43:49Time trials is qualifying.
- 43:51That's what you're doing, okay?
- 43:53Enduros and club racing is a whole different animal because it's not about
- 43:56putting down your fastest lap time.
- 43:58It's about being consistent, being defensive, and that.
- 44:01Time trials, there's a whole other methodology and it relates
- 44:04100 percent to qualifying.
- 44:07Does anybody not know the difference between understeer and oversteer?
- 44:11Alright, I'll leave it there.
- 44:13A lot of other organizations, and Brad can attest to this as well, there's this
- 44:16whole concept of smooth, smooth, you hear the word and it's like, it might
- 44:19as well be a drinking game, we all get plastered in the amount of times you
- 44:22hear the word smooth throughout the day.
- 44:24There is a common misconception on the way smooth is being related
- 44:29and communicated to you guys.
- 44:30This chart is a little bit odd.
- 44:32It makes sense to me and I'll try to explain it.
- 44:34It's just, the idea is this.
- 44:35When you're learning now, you want the car to be smooth.
- 44:40You want the car to be predictable.
- 44:41You're gonna be nervous.
- 44:43You're gonna be like, all over the map, thinking about a million things.
- 44:46Basically drinking from the fire hose.
- 44:48Where's the corner station?
- 44:49What's that guy doing?
- 44:49Why did he take the turn like that?
- 44:51Should I be taking the turn like that?
- 44:52What's my instructor telling me in the car?
- 44:54What the heck is, what's that buzzing sound?
- 44:55You're all over the place.
- 44:56Mentally you're just, Completely frenetic, right?
- 44:59So the car needs to be smooth.
- 45:01Like I said when you guys went out first, deliberate braking.
- 45:03Deliberate turning.
- 45:04Very predictable, you know, not sawing at the wheel.
- 45:07Not double braking.
- 45:09Things like that.
- 45:10As you get faster, as you get more comfortable.
- 45:12As you progress.
- 45:14The smoothness changes from the vehicle to you.
- 45:18You become confident, you become calm, you're ready for any situation.
- 45:22You want to chuck that car in that corner and slide it?
- 45:24Fine.
- 45:24You want to attack that curbing?
- 45:26It pops up on two wheels, you better be ready for it.
- 45:28These are the things you learn over time.
- 45:30If you want to get more aggressive, you You have to become smoother.
- 45:33The car gets more erratic.
- 45:35So there's this really prominent change in your driving ability,
- 45:39but it comes with time.
- 45:40You can't just go there right away and say, I'm going to attack that
- 45:43curbing coming out of turn four.
- 45:44Why?
- 45:45Oh, the guy in front of me did it.
- 45:46Well, should he be doing it?
- 45:47Is that the right way to do it?
- 45:48There's a lot more experimentation.
- 45:50And the reason I say there's more experimentation is you'll hear this
- 45:53concept of, The line will keep you smooth.
- 45:56Like you're in yoga or something, right?
- 45:58Like, just keep saying, Oh, yes, the line, the line, the line.
- 46:01It's the second drinking game of, you know, DE organizations.
- 46:04There is no line.
- 46:06To borrow a little bit from The Matrix, right?
- 46:08There is no spoon.
- 46:09There is no line.
- 46:11The line is something we're teaching you so that you can
- 46:14get around the track safely.
- 46:16And you have an idea of how the track should be driven at a fundamental level.
- 46:20The idea there is that if you run New Jersey or you run Pocono or Summit Point
- 46:25with us, and then you go to SCCA and you go to HOD or whoever, then you have
- 46:30an idea of how it should be driven.
- 46:32When it comes down to the gaining time is where you have to get creative.
- 46:36And we're going to talk about that more as we go along.
- 46:39Driving conditions change throughout the day.
- 46:41The track was cold this morning, it's going to continue to heat up, and by this
- 46:44afternoon, if you're here for the enduro, the track's going to get cold again.
- 46:47It's going to change.
- 46:48If we got rain, if we got fog, if we got, who knows, right?
- 46:53The track conditions are constantly changing.
- 46:54That dead deer they took out, right?
- 46:56The blood was there, now it's not, all those kinds of things.
- 46:58So you have to be constantly adjusting to the track.
- 47:01I want you guys to get creative, but getting creative is not gross.
- 47:05changes in your turn ins and things like that, it's minute changes.
- 47:09And if you're in a condition where you see the apex cone, well this time
- 47:13I was two feet away from it and last time I was four feet away from it,
- 47:16obviously you want to get closer to those apex cones, not further away.
- 47:20Try a different entry angle, try a different entry speed,
- 47:24slow down a little bit more.
- 47:25Look at your exit speed.
- 47:26Exit speed is more important than entry speed.
- 47:28Everybody thinks I need to go in deep, I need to go in hard into that corner.
- 47:32No.
- 47:33You need to exit that corner as quickly as possible, which means carrying as
- 47:36much speed as you can through the corner.
- 47:39How you decide to do that going in is up to you.
- 47:42So exit speed is always more important than entry speed.
- 47:45Like I said this morning, buddying up with our friend here in the Cayman
- 47:48who's got a bunch of track experience.
- 47:50Do some lead follow with somebody else that has more experience.
- 47:53Follow other people.
- 47:54I always remind folks, if you're in a Miata, And you come up on a
- 47:57Corvette and you get that constant about, He didn't want to let me
- 47:59by, he didn't want to let me by.
- 48:00Okay Corvette guy, let's take a chill pill for a second.
- 48:03Let the Miata by, because he was not teleported there.
- 48:07That guy's carrying a ton of speed.
- 48:09He's carrying more speed than you.
- 48:11Get behind him, follow that person, see what they're doing different than you.
- 48:15You're going to pick something up.
- 48:17You are also a culmination of all the people you run with,
- 48:20and all the instructors you've ever had in the right seat.
- 48:22You are now developing your driving style.
- 48:24Again, what you brought here from the street does not translate to the track.
- 48:29You are re learning how to drive and it'll actually work in your
- 48:33benefit as you go back to the street.
- 48:35The other thing I always tell people, because we're focused on
- 48:37racing, we're focused on qualifying and time trials, never make the
- 48:41track longer than it needs to be.
- 48:43The whole point of time trials, just like autocross, is to find
- 48:46the shortest way through the track.
- 48:48to reduce your lap times so you can get back to a lap.
- 48:51So that means none of these lazy river, late apex, you know
- 48:55they always tell you in other organizations, early apex is the enemy.
- 48:58That's not true.
- 48:59It's what works for the car and the proof is in the lap times.
- 49:02But what you need to learn are the basics, the fundamentals of the way to get around
- 49:07the track and then you adjust for your car, for your driving style and the
- 49:11times will show and reflect accordingly.
- 49:14Couple of gotchas.
- 49:15Even though there are apex cones out there, there are plenty of
- 49:18people that fixate on those, and they drive cone to cone to cone.
- 49:21That's the equivalent of driving gate to gate in a r cross.
- 49:24That is not the fastest way around the course.
- 49:26You need to be looking through complex combinations on the track, especially
- 49:30if you can see through multiple turns.
- 49:33Ask yourself, can I make that a straightaway?
- 49:35Can I connect those dots?
- 49:36Can I use a little bit of curving to open this up?
- 49:39If I do take this a little bit later, how does it change my exit?
- 49:41How does it open up the track?
- 49:43If you're in a corner and the car's bound up, it's again, cars communicating back
- 49:47to you, adjust, change your entry angle.
- 49:49So you open the track up, you open the wheel sooner.
- 49:52If you're under steering, I tell people all the time, the enemy of
- 49:55understeer is opening the wheel, right?
- 49:57It's continue to add more input.
- 49:59No wrong.
- 50:00Go the other way.
- 50:01Lift off the throttle.
- 50:03Spend some time on a skid pad.
- 50:04This is what they always, you know, other groups do skid pad exercises.
- 50:07It's what the skid pad actually teaches you.
- 50:09It's not for you to get out there and hoon around and drift on a wet skid pad.
- 50:12The idea is to learn how to increase and decrease the radius by driving with
- 50:17your foot and maintaining a constant steering angle because the car will want
- 50:21to come to the center of the circle, and if you add more gas then it goes out.
- 50:25The principle is the centrifugal force, right?
- 50:27So again, don't drive by cones and also remember that the cones
- 50:31that are there were not perfect.
- 50:32So I'm going to show you how to do that, and I'm going to show
- 50:42you how to do it in a minute.
- 50:47So, I'm going to show you how to do it in a minute, and I'm
- 50:57going to show you how to is.
- 51:02Benefit to you is to walk the course.
- 51:05If you're given the opportunity, the day before, the morning of, or whatever
- 51:08is to get out there and see what the track looks like, how big certain
- 51:11corners are, if there are professional markings, and sometimes I'll get
- 51:15out there and I'll move the cone.
- 51:16They put it in the wrong spot.
- 51:18It belongs here, right?
- 51:19To try to help you guys out as well.
- 51:20So walking the track, just like walking the course in autocross is a huge plus.
- 51:24If you can do it, if you paid for it, use all of it.
- 51:29That's the blanket statement here.
- 51:30There are plenty of people that are.
- 51:32So, if you're afraid to, like, let the car just track out, or go here, go
- 51:36there, they're really tight in certain corners, you have a lot of asphalt.
- 51:39Look at the runoff.
- 51:40Your first session should have been orientation.
- 51:42How much room do I have?
- 51:43Is there room on the other side of the curbing if I screw up
- 51:46and I'm carrying too much speed?
- 51:48These are all really important factors.
- 51:51Also take a look at the curbing.
- 51:53You can see curbing up close when you walk the track.
- 51:55Oh man, uh, New Jersey Lightning, there's a lot of them, they're flat.
- 51:58You can drive right over top of them and it's okay.
- 52:01It's when you get up, it washes out.
- 52:02in Rockins Glen and there's like a set of stairs and the car is jumping up and down,
- 52:05you don't want to run on those curbs.
- 52:07But if you can use it, and it helps you on your exit speed, carry
- 52:11more into the next straightaway or the next section, by all means.
- 52:14Use every square foot of track that you can.
- 52:17Again, you paid for it.
- 52:18Alright, turning has four simple rules.
- 52:21Always brake, and if you're in a manual like most of you guys are, downshifting
- 52:26in a straight line before the turn in.
- 52:29It's judging the braking zone that's complicated.
- 52:32There's breaking markers starting sometimes at 600 yards or 600 feet
- 52:36or whatever it is, depending on where we are, you know, all the way down.
- 52:39So if you're like, man, I break at the 250, I'm like, okay, and I follow you
- 52:43and the break lights are on at the 450.
- 52:45I'm like, okay, in your mind, you're at 250 because you're looking at it.
- 52:48That's not where you started stopping.
- 52:49But some people also get ambitious and they hear that, oh, he broke at
- 52:52the 250 and they get in there and the next thing you know, they're
- 52:54locking them up and they're smoking them all the way down to the apex.
- 52:57You have to, again, build up to braking gradually.
- 53:00Braking is one of the hardest things that you're going to do on track.
- 53:04It's not turning, it's not accelerating by any stretch, it's braking.
- 53:07Mastering braking is what makes you faster, okay?
- 53:11And there's different techniques to braking.
- 53:13Obviously equipment is part of that, but when we start talking about trail braking,
- 53:17thresholding, and all this other kind of stuff, now you're not just pumping
- 53:20the brakes to stop at a traffic light.
- 53:22That's not what we're doing here.
- 53:23We're reducing speed to a window that we need to be in so we
- 53:27can carry speed to a corner.
- 53:28We're not coming to a complete stop.
- 53:30A lot of people also do that.
- 53:31They brake too much.
- 53:33Or they end up breaking twice, because they're not sure where that window is.
- 53:37And that's what the breaking zone is all about, is determining what that window is.
- 53:40Can I go a little deeper?
- 53:42Can I go a little faster?
- 53:43Can I break a little later?
- 53:44Do I need to break sooner?
- 53:45And the pedal's gonna tell you a lot too.
- 53:47If the pedal's getting mushy or going to the floor, you need to back off.
- 53:50You need to breathe off.
- 53:51You're going in too late.
- 53:52You're going in too deep.
- 53:53When you guys get back, we're gonna talk all about turning.
- 53:56I'm gonna try to wrap this thing up.
- 54:00Yeah.
- 54:06Alright, let's get back into this.
- 54:08So, comments, critiques, alibis, feedback on the last session.
- 54:12How was it?
- 54:12Different than the first one?
- 54:14Tracks a little warmer?
- 54:15It was fast.
- 54:17Any issues out there?
- 54:18Too much traffic?
- 54:20Yeah, well, it wasn't bad.
- 54:21Everyone was pointing bison.
- 54:23Yeah?
- 54:23Okay.
- 54:24Point bison are clear.
- 54:25Anybody doing T Rex arms?
- 54:26I know you were, I mean, she had a window net up at one point, right?
- 54:28I didn't.
- 54:29Oh, okay.
- 54:31But everybody's getting their arms out.
- 54:32It's clear at least.
- 54:33Okay.
- 54:33So we're going to get back into talking about terming.
- 54:36I told you guys earlier, breaking is the most important thing you have to learn.
- 54:40The next most important thing is term.
- 54:41And like we said earlier, in the second segment, there's no such thing as a line.
- 54:45But there is a textbook way to take a term.
- 54:48You read all the speed secrets, and there's an A to B to C way to take a term.
- 54:53You know, come into the breaking zone, hit the apex, track out.
- 54:56One, two, three, connect the dots.
- 54:58Those are the terms that your instructor, if you have an
- 55:01instructor in the car, you will use.
- 55:03Like we said earlier, There's that whole laundry list of terms.
- 55:05Bring his own turn in the apex and track out.
- 55:09Track out is always the most questionable of those four terms.
- 55:13Because what does that exactly mean?
- 55:15Tracking out.
- 55:16What you're letting the car do is drift to a point where it's
- 55:18coming straight on its own, right?
- 55:21Some cars, especially high horsepower rear wheel drive cars, need more
- 55:24track out space than, say, a low horsepower Honda or Miata.
- 55:28Track out is variable.
- 55:29What we often tell people is, especially if your car is equipped with a limited
- 55:33space, Slip more importantly, on a front wheel drive, if it doesn't want
- 55:37to go there, don't drive it there.
- 55:39It goes back to the principle of don't make the tracker longer, and you have
- 55:42to, but you also have to take into consideration, was my entry angle correct?
- 55:47If I'm not getting adequate track out right, and how deep is my track out?
- 55:51That's the other thing to consider.
- 55:52Not how far out, but how far down is my track out as well.
- 55:56Right?
- 55:56Because exit speed is more important than entry speed.
- 55:59So if your track out is further down, you're carrying more speed, right?
- 56:04So, we're going to talk more about that and how to play within a
- 56:07boundary that works for you guys to determine what is early, what is late.
- 56:11You hear those terms all the time.
- 56:12So, early apexing is lengthening the braking zone.
- 56:16You're braking earlier, you're also turning in earlier,
- 56:19what you're tracking earlier.
- 56:21However, In a front wheel drive, this is where the asterisk comes into play,
- 56:27they always say early apex is your enemy because 80 percent of the cars that
- 56:31come to the track are rear wheel drive.
- 56:32So early apex is bad.
- 56:34It's tight.
- 56:34It gets the car off balance.
- 56:36It wants to let that, you know, the rear end hang out, but in a front
- 56:39wheel drive that pivots off the front wheels, you leverage the lift
- 56:42throttle oversteer to your advantage.
- 56:44Sometimes using an early apex is good because as you lift, the car
- 56:48pivots and then begins to push.
- 56:50So what we use is what I like to call I'm going to show you how to use the
- 56:54anticipated understeer to develop trackout for front wheel drive.
- 56:57So show of hands, anybody's run a front wheel drive?
- 57:00Okay, so I'm only speaking to a couple of you guys.
- 57:02It's a totally different driving technique than any other car that you'll be in.
- 57:07All wheel drives are close, they tend to be neutral, they tend, some tend to push
- 57:11more like a front wheel to front wheel bias, some all wheel drive to a rear wheel
- 57:14bias, so they're a little harder to gauge.
- 57:16For rear wheel drive cars, you want to talk about late apexing.
- 57:21There's late and then there's really late.
- 57:24I'm turning in early.
- 57:25I'm bringing the apex closer to me, but I have to brake earlier, but
- 57:28I'm also shortening the exit, which means I'm reducing my exit speed.
- 57:32So we need to change this.
- 57:33We need to lengthen the braking zone, and we need to change this vector, change this
- 57:37angle, so we change the, By going a little further, when we talk about those braking
- 57:43markers earlier, how important braking is, it's not about braking at the two.
- 57:48It's about understanding if your car can brake within 200 yards or 200 feet,
- 57:53depending on how the markers are designed.
- 57:55That's what you need to know.
- 57:56That's why those, that first session is important.
- 57:59What is my braking distance look like today?
- 58:02Right?
- 58:02Brake pads are also affected by the temperature outside.
- 58:05Is it raining all this kind of stuff that we talked about early on?
- 58:08So, when you figure that out.
- 58:09We go, I can consistently brake within 250 feet, but that 250 feet could
- 58:15be back here or it could be up here.
- 58:18So the brake markers become irrelevant once you understand how your car stops.
- 58:24And that's why I say braking is the most important thing.
- 58:27In order to change the difference between early and late braking, getting rid of
- 58:30double braking, which a lot of novices tend to do, is understanding that your
- 58:33car can stop from 100 miles an hour to 80, if that's the desired speed, in 250 feet.
- 58:40Now let's move those 200 feet around.
- 58:42That said, late apex means you're drawing in, you're extending
- 58:46the braking zone, right?
- 58:47But it doesn't mean you're going in deeper, you're braking, you're braking
- 58:51later, but you're still within the boundaries of, let's say, that 200 feet
- 58:55that we're using for this equation, right?
- 58:57It's always the 200 feet, that's where your car is capable of braking in.
- 59:00So we move that down, which means that we change the vector, and we
- 59:04move the apex out, which means we move the track out point out, but
- 59:08it also means I can get on the line.
- 59:09I'm on the throttle earlier because my whole trajectory out of that is flat.
- 59:15The car is settled, I've squatted it down, and now I'm powering out.
- 59:19I'm on the throttle earlier because I shifted everything down.
- 59:23There are some groups that there's even later, and it's like these lazy river
- 59:27types of lines, the track, and you have to find a balance that works for you.
- 59:30Sometimes you'll see it, and you'll be like, man, that guy went
- 59:32to this school, and you're just like, what, what is that line?
- 59:35But you need to learn, again, from the other cars that are out there.
- 59:38That's also important when we start talking about passing strategy.
- 59:42As you move up at MRON, you get more competitive, you need to capitalize
- 59:46on those differences in lines to say, that's my opportunity to pass.
- 59:49He always takes turn 5 like that, means I can dive inside of him, I can put
- 59:53myself there, I can make myself known.
- 59:55He's going to be outside anyway, and this is an opportunity for me to get around.
- 59:59This is looking at the strengths and weaknesses of the drivers around you.
- 1:00:02So understanding how to take the turns and It's not just getting around the track
- 1:00:07and being fast, but it's also the strategy of the game that we're playing here.
- 1:00:10How do I tell the difference between late and early?
- 1:00:12So the breaking zone still has to be taken into account.
- 1:00:14What's the maximum I can do?
- 1:00:16The difference between early textbook and late is literally
- 1:00:20the length of your course.
- 1:00:22Textbook turn in is always That entry cone, and my body, and I turn.
- 1:00:27You will do that A to B to C through that corner.
- 1:00:31If you go to the back wheel of the car, you've added that additional
- 1:00:356 feet, let's call it, or less.
- 1:00:37That makes all the difference in the world.
- 1:00:39Try that.
- 1:00:39Wait until the cone gets to the back wheel, and turn in.
- 1:00:43You can extend the braking zone that extra distance.
- 1:00:45That'll create a late apex.
- 1:00:47Try early.
- 1:00:48When the front wheels get there, turn in.
- 1:00:49Suddenly you'll be like, oh man, I'm already at the curb, what's going on?
- 1:00:52It's all, you know, whatever works for your car.
- 1:00:54Again, for a front wheel drive, there's an advantage to doing that,
- 1:00:56because you can pivot through the corner and get through quicker.
- 1:00:59But really, when you're gauging, people tell you, take it early, or you
- 1:01:02took it late, or do this, and you're like, I don't know what that means.
- 1:01:05I'm just hearing words.
- 1:01:06It's literally measurements on the car, and these are the three
- 1:01:09measurements I'm giving you.
- 1:01:10The front bumper, where you sit.
- 1:01:13and the rear tire.
- 1:01:14That will give you early textbook and late, so try that
- 1:01:18next time you're out there.
- 1:01:19Try just making those subtle adjustments like we talked about in the second
- 1:01:22segment to adjust your turning.
- 1:01:25And you'll notice the exit speed and how you track out of the corner will be
- 1:01:28very different with all three of these.
- 1:01:30So we talked about late braking.
- 1:01:32Again, first you need to understand how to brake.
- 1:01:36How much you can break, what your car's capable of, and then
- 1:01:38staying within what works, right?
- 1:01:41You were talking about getting brake fade and other things like that in your car.
- 1:01:44So if you're at that point, you've gone too far.
- 1:01:46You need to back off.
- 1:01:47You can't be braking at 175.
- 1:01:49Let's go to 225, because I can consistently do 225.
- 1:01:53I can only do 175 feet once.
- 1:01:55How does that lap turn out for you?
- 1:01:57Let's think about it.
- 1:01:58Changing that breaking zone, understanding how much give you have in there, and
- 1:02:03being assistive, using your own visual references, not necessarily those
- 1:02:07of the tracking, and making those computations in your head, changes the
- 1:02:11difference in the exit speed at the apex.
- 1:02:14Exit speed is judged here, as you pull out.
- 1:02:17So a three mile an hour difference at the apex, maybe with adjustments
- 1:02:21or late braking or trail braking in some instances, that adds a couple
- 1:02:25mile an hour at the end of the straightaway into the next turn.
- 1:02:27And so every time you add a couple mile an hour, you're shaving
- 1:02:30a couple tenths of a second.
- 1:02:31Your lap time's getting quicker.
- 1:02:33And then it compiles on itself.
- 1:02:35Because remember, when you're out there, you're not driving this
- 1:02:38turn when you're in that turn.
- 1:02:39You're driving two turns away.
- 1:02:41You should be thinking two to three turns out.
- 1:02:44You should be looking way out ahead of you of what's going on.
- 1:02:46Again, going back to those cautionary tales of the first
- 1:02:49segment, we're talking about flags.
- 1:02:50You should be looking way out ahead of you.
- 1:02:52But if you're thinking about the turn you're in, it's already too late.
- 1:02:56Right?
- 1:02:56You need to be thinking about the two turns that are coming up.
- 1:02:58Because, when we talk about complex combinations, it's all about setting.
- 1:03:03This up for what's out here, not about driving one, two, three,
- 1:03:08a couple of different key terms in advanced breaking, right?
- 1:03:11There's learning how to break, which is not like breaking on the street, and
- 1:03:14then we get into threshold breaking.
- 1:03:16Anybody here not have APS other than you?
- 1:03:18Alright, I might be breaking, actually.
- 1:03:21Yeah.
- 1:03:21At 94 years.
- 1:03:22Yeah.
- 1:03:22So, with the old Miata's, things like that, or non ABS car,
- 1:03:25threshold breaking, you are the ABS.
- 1:03:27It's all about learning the point at which, right before they lock up.
- 1:03:32And that's a foot feel, that's a finesse thing.
- 1:03:34You have to work on that.
- 1:03:35You actually literally need, To go out and brake in an extreme
- 1:03:38way to figure out where it is and start working back from that.
- 1:03:41Because that's going to be your maximum braking potential, and
- 1:03:44then you can modulate from there.
- 1:03:45It's understanding what that threshold is before you basically
- 1:03:48cook them and lock them up.
- 1:03:50Okay?
- 1:03:50So, on an ABS car, ABS cars do this for you.
- 1:03:54So you get the pulsating and all this other kind of, they're threshold braking.
- 1:03:56They're coming on and off the brakes quickly to try to make sure that
- 1:03:59you're not locking up the front wheels.
- 1:04:00That's the computer, the nanny, like I talked about earlier, getting in your way.
- 1:04:03Okay?
- 1:04:04Trail braking is this very, very dark art to driving fast.
- 1:04:09A lot of people say they trail brake.
- 1:04:11And I get in the car with them and I'm like, show me how you trail brake.
- 1:04:15And they brake straight and then they turn in.
- 1:04:16And I'm like, that's not trail braking.
- 1:04:18Trail braking is for those of us, unfortunately, disadvantaged with front
- 1:04:21wheel drive cars, if you don't know how to trail brake, you'll never get fast.
- 1:04:26Because what we have to do is carry maximum speed, as much as we possibly
- 1:04:31can, brake as late as we can, and use the brakes to rotate the car.
- 1:04:36Trail braking means you're really extending the braking zone,
- 1:04:39you're braking hard, but you're carrying the brakes to the apex and
- 1:04:41immediately back on the throttle.
- 1:04:43It's challenging to do in a rear wheel drive car, it's not that it can't be
- 1:04:48done, but we have to do it all the time with front wheel drive, because it's
- 1:04:51the only way to get the car to come around on us the way we need it to.
- 1:04:54So trail braking is all about really extending that braking zone, but
- 1:04:58you're riding the brake to the apex, immediately getting back on the gas.
- 1:05:01So if you're still braking in a straight line and say, oh, I broke as I started
- 1:05:05to turn, that's not trail braking.
- 1:05:06When you're really trail braking, you're riding it in
- 1:05:09as you're heading to the apex.
- 1:05:11You're slowing the car down.
- 1:05:12Basically, at an angle, going into that turn, that is your braking zone.
- 1:05:15The first part of the turn in is the braking zone.
- 1:05:17That's really what trail braking is all about.
- 1:05:20We covered late braking, we talked about braking zones, braking markers,
- 1:05:23exit speed, corner speed, right?
- 1:05:24Just keep all these things in mind.
- 1:05:26Braking is the key.
- 1:05:27I can't say this enough.
- 1:05:28Alright, I did talk about trail braking.
- 1:05:30Like I said, you're still gonna send it, you're in the braking zone, you're
- 1:05:34gonna lift, and you're gonna brake really late all the way to that apex to come
- 1:05:37get back on the throttle as quickly as possible and carry a ton of speed.
- 1:05:41Try it, but do it at a low speed.
- 1:05:43Whenever you try something, like I said before, build up to it and
- 1:05:46really learn how to trail brake.
- 1:05:48You gotta get creative.
- 1:05:49I've said this before.
- 1:05:51Anybody here been to V.
- 1:05:51I.
- 1:05:51R.?
- 1:05:52You know what I'm talking about.
- 1:05:54Oaktree, the shoot at Summit Point, Watkins Glen, and Boone, things like that.
- 1:05:58We could argue till the cows come home about how to take certain turns.
- 1:06:02That's why there is no line.
- 1:06:03There is no right answer.
- 1:06:04What you need to learn is, by driving by feel, what is your car telling you?
- 1:06:08What are those tires telling you?
- 1:06:10What is it communicating back?
- 1:06:11What do the exit speeds look like?
- 1:06:12All the stuff that's going on tells you what the line is in that turn.
- 1:06:17Oaktree, if you watch any of the videos, go look at VIR,
- 1:06:20Virginia International Raceway.
- 1:06:21It's an ideal turn to understand why you've got to get creative,
- 1:06:25because it's basically a square.
- 1:06:27It's a horseshoe, and you could go through it a million different ways, and there's
- 1:06:30a million different ways that it's taught.
- 1:06:32There are certain things that work for Corvettes, that don't work for
- 1:06:34BMWs, and definitely not for Miatas.
- 1:06:36So everybody's got a different way of going through there, and it's
- 1:06:39comical to see it when they're all out on a track together.
- 1:06:41But it's just the way we play the game.
- 1:06:43Like I said before, complex combinations.
- 1:06:46Think about the track in segments.
- 1:06:48If you've watched professional racing, well in segment
- 1:06:51one you lost half a second.
- 1:06:52Well what is segment one?
- 1:06:53Segment one is these four turns.
- 1:06:55Everything is in segments because it's how you're supposed to learn the tracks too.
- 1:06:59There's certain tracks, I'll give you an example.
- 1:07:01National Corvette Museum.
- 1:07:02You cannot master that track if you don't break it into three large segments.
- 1:07:06Because it's a test track and not a race track.
- 1:07:09you The modeling, the segments, are designed to be part of Le Mans, a
- 1:07:13part of Laguna Seca, So you have to approach them independently.
- 1:07:17There's a lot of other tracks that are like that too.
- 1:07:20The Walkin Sun, if you go there with them or another group, you have
- 1:07:23to approach the boot a certain way versus the other parts of the track.
- 1:07:26So you learn it in segments.
- 1:07:28But then you need to stitch the segments together, and you need
- 1:07:30to look at the combos, and the complex combinations that are there.
- 1:07:33So, changing the angle here drastically changes the second
- 1:07:38turn and the third turn.
- 1:07:39So when you're doing this, you have to think about the
- 1:07:42entire stream of the segment.
- 1:07:44So that's where it's important.
- 1:07:45If I'm a little later here, a little earlier there, or if I'm late two places,
- 1:07:49how does it mess up the third turn?
- 1:07:50Again, this is why you need to be thinking two to three turns ahead
- 1:07:53when you're trying to bring your speed up and bring your times down.
- 1:07:57So don't think about the track as turn one and turn two and turn three.
- 1:08:01Think about this as segment one and segment two and segment three.
- 1:08:06Pogono North is really, really short, so for me it's only really two
- 1:08:09segments, the Chicane and Nascar Turn 3.
- 1:08:11Not a whole lot there, but when you start running bigger tracks, it's
- 1:08:15really important to break things down.
- 1:08:16And it's also easier to relate to your coach and say, Hey,
- 1:08:19let's work on segment one.
- 1:08:20I want to perfect this combination of turns.
- 1:08:23And then you move on to the next piece, where you can chunk it.
- 1:08:25Straightaways, just because you hit the straight, doesn't
- 1:08:29mean there's nothing to do.
- 1:08:31This is your opportunity to breathe, check coolant, look at the flag
- 1:08:35stations, look ahead, who's behind you.
- 1:08:38If your head's not on a swivel, you're not paying attention.
- 1:08:40You're not situationally aware, is what we call it.
- 1:08:43Straightaway is a great opportunity to do that.
- 1:08:45But straightaways are also an opportunity to let other people
- 1:08:48go by, make sure you have gas.
- 1:08:50Don't ask me how many people I know that run out of gas.
- 1:08:53But one thing that's important about a straightaway is the turn leading
- 1:08:56on to a straightaway is always the fastest turn on the track.
- 1:08:59Flat out.
- 1:08:59If anybody ever quizzes you on that, the fastest turn on the track is
- 1:09:02the one leading on the straightaway.
- 1:09:04But it's one of the most important turns too when you're in traffic.
- 1:09:07Because that gives you an opportunity, as you're going
- 1:09:09in, you know how to set it up.
- 1:09:11Quick point by, as you're entering that turn, not exiting the turn, because what
- 1:09:16we don't want to do is break momentum.
- 1:09:17Straightaways are an opportunity to break up traffic.
- 1:09:20So, give that point by early, let them go by, stay in the throttle, and go.
- 1:09:24And we'll talk a little bit more about passing this side.
- 1:09:27Brake less, steer less.
- 1:09:28Drive with your feet.
- 1:09:29A lot of driving of vehicles isn't about steering input and all these
- 1:09:33other things that we talked about.
- 1:09:34Some of it has to do with what trail braking can give you, how it
- 1:09:37rotates the car, using that weight transfer to unsettle it, you know,
- 1:09:41driving off the nose versus driving a little looser, driving off the
- 1:09:44rear wheels, using your feet.
- 1:09:46And then again, like I mentioned earlier about skid pads, learning how
- 1:09:49the centrifugal forces work in the car, the physics of the car laterally,
- 1:09:52you can then learn if I lift just a little bit of throttle, it noses in.
- 1:09:56I don't have to add more input.
- 1:09:57Or if I give it a little gas, it's going to push out.
- 1:10:00All these subtle nuances, and a lift.
- 1:10:02You know, if I hear an instructor go, just lift.
- 1:10:03It's a quick lift.
- 1:10:04Because all we're trying to do is get the car to correct.
- 1:10:06And Watkins Glen in Turn 7 is famous for this.
- 1:10:10It's completely off camber, up 600 horsepower hill.
- 1:10:13People are like, I can never meet the apex.
- 1:10:15And they're standing on the throttle.
- 1:10:16And it's like, no, because it's throwing you that way.
- 1:10:18And I just say, lift.
- 1:10:19And the car moves two feet.
- 1:10:21Like, wow.
- 1:10:22That's all you gotta do, man.
- 1:10:23Just lift your foot.
- 1:10:24You didn't even have to change your steering angle, and the car came right in.
- 1:10:27So play with that when you're out there.
- 1:10:29And like I said earlier this morning, if you're getting further away from
- 1:10:32that apex cone, even though that's not gospel, just lift a little bit.
- 1:10:36You should be getting closer to it, not further away from it.
- 1:10:39You're missing your mark the further you get away from the apex.
- 1:10:44Nobody in here is running a Porsche except for you, right?
- 1:10:47No?
- 1:10:48Okay.
- 1:10:48I don't got that one.
- 1:10:49Nah.
- 1:10:50So you have to worry about trailing throttle oversteer.
- 1:10:52That's a whole nother, we can talk about that on Offline.
- 1:10:54That's why I always put it at the bottom.
- 1:10:56This is a very Porsche thing.
- 1:10:57Since there are front wheel drives going backwards.
- 1:10:59But, uh, you know, it's all good.
- 1:11:01Most cars nowadays have a propensity to understeer.
- 1:11:05They're dialed in that way from the factory.
- 1:11:07Even pro racers talk about now how they're driving all the
- 1:11:10race cars off to front end.
- 1:11:12Because they use that understeer.
- 1:11:13So, it's Quote unquote safer, it's easier to anticipate, and suddenly the car steps
- 1:11:18and snaps and they gotta correct it.
- 1:11:20You're losing time if you're drifting, by the way.
- 1:11:22It looks cool, but it's not fast.
- 1:11:24Like I said before, the enemy of understeer is opening the wheel,
- 1:11:28but it's also lifting the throttle.
- 1:11:30Right?
- 1:11:30So it's a little bit of both.
- 1:11:31You have to decide which works.
- 1:11:33In some cases, depending on the complex corner that you're working
- 1:11:36on, quickly snapping the wheel open, getting the car straight, means you
- 1:11:40can get back on the power sooner.
- 1:11:41We talked about this in New Jersey.
- 1:11:42There's a bunch of that stuff going on there.
- 1:11:44So you have to find it's a delicate balance between Riding your foot and
- 1:11:47just quickly opening the wheel to get those wheels straight as possible.
- 1:11:50Super important for front wheel drives.
- 1:11:52The faster we can get our wheels straight, the more quickly we
- 1:11:56can put the power to the ground.
- 1:11:57And I tell you what, if you've never raced a front wheel drive
- 1:12:00on track, I highly recommend it because it makes you a better driver.
- 1:12:03And the guys that run overseas, touring car and all that kind of
- 1:12:06stuff, they're all front wheel drives and they're maniacs.
- 1:12:09But you put them in something else, and they can do all sorts of
- 1:12:11really neat stuff with other cars.
- 1:12:13So it's an art form, and you guys will get there.
- 1:12:15More throttle and more steering is never the answer, right?
- 1:12:18So remind yourself of that.
- 1:12:19If you're walking away from the apex, don't add more gas.
- 1:12:23Don't add more steering.
- 1:12:24Lift.
- 1:12:24Left foot braking.
- 1:12:25You hear people say, Oh yeah, left foot braking, I keep the turbo spooled up.
- 1:12:28Especially if you've got an older car.
- 1:12:29I laugh, and it's true, and I do it.
- 1:12:31But this is not the place to learn how to left foot brake.
- 1:12:36A manual transmission car is not the car to learn left foot braking on either.
- 1:12:41So if your daily driver is an automatic, go left foot brake with that.
- 1:12:44Go learn how to rudder.
- 1:12:45Because you don't have the finesse in your clutch leg that you do in a manual.
- 1:12:51So you need to learn that.
- 1:12:52Jokingly, I mean, it's, it's true.
- 1:12:54I've taken my jeep and my previous tow rigs on track before, and
- 1:12:57I'll go out there and I'll left foot them, get them to rotate.
- 1:12:59It's all sorts of fun, but you gotta have that finesse in your leg.
- 1:13:02Learn it on the street, do it at low speed.
- 1:13:04Do it on a road that you know, because the first time you do left
- 1:13:07foot braking, you're gonna put yourself through the windshield.
- 1:13:10It's gonna be like, whoa, whoa, wait, what?
- 1:13:11So, just learn how to do that.
- 1:13:13Outside of the track, and when you master it, then you need to
- 1:13:16decide, when can I left foot brake?
- 1:13:17When am I not shifting?
- 1:13:18It's all about when you're not shifting, especially with a manual transmission car.
- 1:13:22If you're an automatic guy with a modern car, and you can
- 1:13:24rudder, you're gonna be fast.
- 1:13:26Because now, you never have to come off the throttle, so there's not that
- 1:13:29delay between the brake and the gas when you need to execute at apex.
- 1:13:33So there is an advantage.
- 1:13:34That's why all the race cars now flappy power gear boxes and two pedals, because
- 1:13:38there's time lost in shifting gears.
- 1:13:40Now it's a lot more fun, whatever.
- 1:13:43Heel, toe is really, really important.
- 1:13:48But a lot of new cars, Hondas, Cortes, et cetera, they're doing
- 1:13:51automatic lifting for you to do the rev matching and whatnot.
- 1:13:55And this is another difficult thing to learn.
- 1:13:58And I say the track is the wrong place to learn a lot.
- 1:14:01A lot of instructors I've met in the past.
- 1:14:02You need to work on your heel toe today.
- 1:14:04I'm like, nah, the track is not the place to do that.
- 1:14:06Let's just focus on getting around here, doing what needs to be done.
- 1:14:10There's other ways to shift where if you're not comfortable heel
- 1:14:13toeing, you don't have to do it.
- 1:14:14Don't feel that you have to force yourself.
- 1:14:16But you do have to practice.
- 1:14:17There's a video on my YouTube channel all about doing rev matching both up and
- 1:14:22down shifting because it works both ways.
- 1:14:24A lot of people forget that.
- 1:14:25I can share that link if you guys are interested.
- 1:14:28But I want to remind you that there are two ways to do this.
- 1:14:31The original heel toe was designed for BMWs and Porsches where the
- 1:14:35pedal comes up from the floor.
- 1:14:37And it's a specific foot position to be able to do that and be able to
- 1:14:41operate both pedals at the same time.
- 1:14:43It is not the same foot position.
- 1:14:46For a car with hanging pedals.
- 1:14:47So it's sort of like snowboarding, right?
- 1:14:48There's the normal way and then there's goofy.
- 1:14:50It's the same thing with heel toe.
- 1:14:52You have to master both, especially if you switch cars, you go from a Porsche
- 1:14:56to a Mustang pedals, drop pedals, raise, and it's not the same foot position.
- 1:15:01It's a different technique in your ankle to make heel toe work.
- 1:15:04So again, the video that I put out kind of covers all that kind of stuff.
- 1:15:08If you want to see it in more detail, I won't belabor the point
- 1:15:10here, but more importantly, if you have an issue and you go off.
- 1:15:15A, be mindful of the runoff that you have available, and remember that
- 1:15:19your hands go where your eyes go.
- 1:15:21So if you're looking at the guardrail, that's where you're going to go.
- 1:15:24So you always should be diverting your eyes to the exit, right?
- 1:15:27Where do I want to take the car?
- 1:15:29Your hands will go there and the rest becomes natural, becomes intuitive,
- 1:15:32because everything sort of slows down during a spin or a slide or whatever.
- 1:15:36But if you go off and you feel the car is going to completely come
- 1:15:39around 360 or more, especially if you have a transmission
- 1:15:42car, both feet in immediately.
- 1:15:44And the reason both feet go in, to disengage the drivetrain,
- 1:15:47but to not stall the motor.
- 1:15:49Because if you need to recover, you can pop the clutch and keep going.
- 1:15:52If you're sitting there stalled, you're dead in the water.
- 1:15:55So when you spin, both feet in.
- 1:15:57Talking about going faster.
- 1:15:59There is a rule that I have lived by in my many years of time trialing.
- 1:16:03Especially as you guys move up.
- 1:16:05It's a nine lap strategy.
- 1:16:06Because you have to maintain your consumables.
- 1:16:09Racing is expensive.
- 1:16:11If anybody tells you otherwise, they're lying to you.
- 1:16:13Right?
- 1:16:13Tires, fuel, everything right now, because of inflation, is pretty high.
- 1:16:17So I abide by a nine lap strategy.
- 1:16:19Spend the first three laps, It's warming everything up.
- 1:16:22You don't have to go out full bore.
- 1:16:24Your tires are cold.
- 1:16:25Your air pressures aren't right.
- 1:16:26If you've got TPMS, use it.
- 1:16:28You know, let everything come up.
- 1:16:29Warm up your car before you go out.
- 1:16:30Make sure the engine's operating.
- 1:16:31Temperature and all that kind of stuff.
- 1:16:33Once traffic is cleared, remember the first three laps, everybody's
- 1:16:36trying to find their pace.
- 1:16:37You just got let out altogether.
- 1:16:39This isn't a rally stage where we set you out 20 seconds apart.
- 1:16:42You're all bunched up and you're like, Oh, I was in a dream for the whole session.
- 1:16:46Chill out.
- 1:16:47These are the first three laps, let traffic dissipate, orient yourself
- 1:16:50to the track, figure out what the flaggers are, figure out what the
- 1:16:52asphalt looks like, all that stuff.
- 1:16:53Spend those three laps just getting warmed up, you know, like you're on a cyclotron,
- 1:16:57it's like, we're gonna build up speed.
- 1:16:59Three laps, hot, push as fast as you can go, do what you need to do.
- 1:17:03Three laps.
- 1:17:04Cool down and relax.
- 1:17:05Alright?
- 1:17:05Your adrenaline is going to spike.
- 1:17:07Once you're going for time, you're going to be like, ahhh,
- 1:17:09like the Incredible Hulk.
- 1:17:10Three laps.
- 1:17:11Cool down.
- 1:17:11Come in.
- 1:17:12If you can't get your fastest lap time in this nine lap
- 1:17:15structure, you're wasting time.
- 1:17:17You're wasting consumables.
- 1:17:18You're just out doing three laps.
- 1:17:20So this is, when you're competing, and you're out here for trophies
- 1:17:23and points in white group and blue group, follow a nine lap strategy.
- 1:17:26It saves tires over the day.
- 1:17:28It saves consumables.
- 1:17:29It saves your brain.
- 1:17:30You're not wearing yourself out.
- 1:17:32And you'll go out the next session.
- 1:17:33And I'm like, I got to fix this, I got to do this, I have time to look at my
- 1:17:36data, I have time to review the video, whatever you're doing at that level.
- 1:17:40But by doing this, you're saving yourself and you're saving the car.
- 1:17:43Remember, you've got four or five sessions in a day to get the work done.
- 1:17:47And your best lap time of the day is what counts for the trophies at the end.
- 1:17:51Right?
- 1:17:51So it doesn't need to be completed the first session out.
- 1:17:54Alright, the next most important part of any of this, whether you're
- 1:17:57in the student group or you're on track, is traffic management.
- 1:18:02There's always one of you, right?
- 1:18:05Don't be this guy.
- 1:18:06So I tell people all the time, there is no line, but don't drive someone else's line.
- 1:18:13If you're following the taillights of the car in front of you, if he or
- 1:18:16she makes a mistake, you will too.
- 1:18:18It's just our natural habit as humans.
- 1:18:21It's a very hard thing to do, is you're looking through the cars ahead of you.
- 1:18:25When I'm out on track, it's like a cartoon.
- 1:18:26Everything becomes a cone.
- 1:18:28They're just objects on track.
- 1:18:29I don't know that it's a Honda or a Corvette.
- 1:18:31It's an object that's in my way, and I'm just looking through it.
- 1:18:34I need to maintain my line, because what's most important for
- 1:18:37me is maintaining my momentum.
- 1:18:39Especially in a low horsepower car, we're at a severe disadvantage.
- 1:18:42I need to make sure that I can capitalize on your mistakes.
- 1:18:45Or where you're not fast, but I can find a way through there to keep my
- 1:18:49lap as consistent, as fast as possible.
- 1:18:52And when you start building up your skills, your laps should be
- 1:18:54within tenths of a second of each other, regardless of traffic.
- 1:18:57Because again, you're thinking ahead, you're looking ahead, you're
- 1:19:00looking through cars, you're planning your attack route through traffic.
- 1:19:04If you want to practice what they call racecraft, which is exactly what
- 1:19:07I explained, go do some go karting.
- 1:19:10And go do go karting with other people that race.
- 1:19:13Because it all becomes very real at that point.
- 1:19:15You see it all, because now you've leveled the playing field.
- 1:19:18You see the lines and how everybody's manipulating each other in traffic.
- 1:19:21You will go race craft through go karting.
- 1:19:23So, it's more than just having beers and going having fun.
- 1:19:26There's something from every discipline that you can bring to the table,
- 1:19:29especially here at Tucked Trials.
- 1:19:30Where to pass.
- 1:19:32You know, they talked about passing zones this morning for you guys.
- 1:19:34Oh, we're gonna go to the back straight.
- 1:19:35Generally the rule is, at most tracks you go to, um, the answer is where to pass.
- 1:19:40Passes where the wheels are perceived to be straight.
- 1:19:43The exit of a turn is okay, we're going to straight, it's perceived straight.
- 1:19:48So again, if you set up passing early, you've got that Miata, Corvette's
- 1:19:52coming up on it, you give it early.
- 1:19:53As you guys are exiting the corner, you can do a nice over under, and the
- 1:19:57Corvette goes by you and away you go.
- 1:19:59The other thing about passing is, if you're ducking in in front of somebody
- 1:20:03to go into a braking zone, make sure you can see their headlights in your
- 1:20:07rearview mirror, because that means there's enough berth between you and them.
- 1:20:10them that you're not going to plow into each other going into the braking zone.
- 1:20:13This is a good rule for any time you pass.
- 1:20:15Don't get back on driver's line until you can clearly see
- 1:20:19them in your rear view mirror.
- 1:20:21When to pass is a strategy, right?
- 1:20:23It's part of this game.
- 1:20:24You have to learn where to sacrifice a corner to take a position because you
- 1:20:30have a slower car in front of you that you've been trying to get around in
- 1:20:32your battle or whatever as you move up.
- 1:20:34The same is true in your guy's run group.
- 1:20:37It's about making yourself known, making your intentions known.
- 1:20:41I hear it all the time, that guy didn't let me pass.
- 1:20:43Well how far were you from him?
- 1:20:45Well I was like five car lots back.
- 1:20:46Well you're not, you're not ready to pass.
- 1:20:48What do you mean?
- 1:20:49You have to make your intentions known.
- 1:20:50Get up on that guy.
- 1:20:51I'm not telling you to tailgate them, but get up on them and sit
- 1:20:54outside of their mirror a little bit, in their quarter panel.
- 1:20:57Be like, hey I'm here.
- 1:20:58I'm here.
- 1:20:58If you need to talk back underneath them because you're going to a
- 1:21:00breaking zone, all you got to do is barely move the steering wheel
- 1:21:02and you're back in line again.
- 1:21:03So you're making yourself known like, Hey, I'm here.
- 1:21:05He gives you the wave.
- 1:21:07Alright, you get me at the next turn and we'll go do about our business.
- 1:21:10You guys are still communicating with each other, but when you move into
- 1:21:13open passing and like blue group, now there's no more communicating.
- 1:21:17Guys still are courteous and will flag each other and sometimes point by,
- 1:21:21but then you have to think about when.
- 1:21:23When can I take advantage of what's coming up?
- 1:21:26I'm faster in segment one.
- 1:21:27Remember we're talking about segments.
- 1:21:29I'm quicker than this guy in this segment of the track.
- 1:21:32If I can get around him, that gives me my advantage for the rest of the lap.
- 1:21:35He starts building that gap between me and the other guy.
- 1:21:38I talked earlier about feel.
- 1:21:40It's really, really important, but FEEL can only take you so far.
- 1:21:43Driving by FEEL is going to be a life skill for you when you're driving on
- 1:21:47the road, in bad weather conditions, you know, whatever's going on.
- 1:21:51But also if you have ambitions on becoming a coach for a while, right?
- 1:21:54Like I said, being able to drive by FEEL is important
- 1:21:56because you don't have anything.
- 1:21:58You're alone for the ride, you don't have any data.
- 1:22:00As you move up, as you progress, and why I don't like to have the
- 1:22:03student groups be timed, is that you get too fixated on the stuff.
- 1:22:07There's some really neat tools out there, you know, the Ames, the Garmins, the
- 1:22:11Apex Pros, Harry's Laptime, or whatever.
- 1:22:13All of us are, you know, we want to run it, we want to do it.
- 1:22:15Put that stuff away for right now, because if you don't have somebody
- 1:22:18helping you understand the data and analyze the data with you, and there's
- 1:22:22folks like ourselves that can sit down with you and say, Let's look at your lap.
- 1:22:25Let's look at your braking zones, all this kind of stuff.
- 1:22:27It's just a bunch of numbers.
- 1:22:28It becomes as crazy as Excel sheets that don't mean anything to you.
- 1:22:32So don't get fixated on the data just yet.
- 1:22:34Once you've gotten to the point that you have enough days and tracks under
- 1:22:38your belt, you're turning consistent lap times, you're being recorded
- 1:22:42by the tower and things like that, then you go, let me start looking at
- 1:22:45my data to see how I can go faster.
- 1:22:47But then you're still going to need a mentor.
- 1:22:48You need a different kind of coach at that point to step in with you
- 1:22:52and sit down, look at your video.
- 1:22:54Drive with you, look at the data sets, and really work on honing your skills.
- 1:22:57And if you're going the direction you're going, it's 100 percent what you gotta do.
- 1:23:01So that being said, so we talked about data a little bit.
- 1:23:03You know, the big question about today has been progression,
- 1:23:05progression, progression, progression.
- 1:23:07Many folks want to get rid of their instructors if they have
- 1:23:10them as quickly as possible.
- 1:23:11I don't need that extra 200 pounds of ballast in my right seat.
- 1:23:14That's the wrong answer.
- 1:23:17It's sort of like when you first started to learn AppDrive.
- 1:23:20You want somebody with you for as long as you possibly can.
- 1:23:22There's so many different scenarios.
- 1:23:24There's so many different tracks.
- 1:23:25So many different situations.
- 1:23:26So many opportunities to learn.
- 1:23:28When you're out there by yourself, or you're not working with
- 1:23:31fellow folks in your run group, you're not actually learning.
- 1:23:34You're just driving.
- 1:23:35You're just doing whatever comes natural to you at that point.
- 1:23:37So you're not growing.
- 1:23:38So what I like to tell people is, you know, never stop learning.
- 1:23:41Ask any coach, even a coach you've had before.
- 1:23:43Hey, can you ride with me?
- 1:23:44Blah, blah.
- 1:23:44Can you come see what I'm doing?
- 1:23:45Let's talk.
- 1:23:46You know, let's go over all these things.
- 1:23:48But if you wanted to go So, let's say moving from red to white
- 1:23:52group here with this organization.
- 1:23:55My personal rule of thumb is that to be a more well rounded driver, it's not
- 1:24:00numbers of days that somebody posted on their rules, you can have 27 days and
- 1:24:04you can move to this group, that group.
- 1:24:06It really has to do with the diversity of the tracks in your portfolio.
- 1:24:10So to even begin considering moving someone up, my personal rule, and this
- 1:24:14comes from me coming up through the system, is you gotta have somewhere
- 1:24:17between six to eight different tracks.
- 1:24:19And different tracks isn't, well I did Pocono South and I did Pocono
- 1:24:23North, you're still at Pocono.
- 1:24:24You need to go to different venues.
- 1:24:26I went to VIR, I went to the Glen, I went to Summit Point, I went to New Jersey.
- 1:24:29Because they're so drastically different, you're going to pull something away
- 1:24:32from each of those experiences and being able to, you know you're there.
- 1:24:37When you look at a turn and you go to a new track, the pit race,
- 1:24:40and you go, Man, turn one is just like this turn in the blend.
- 1:24:44And now you know exactly what you need to do, how you're going to put
- 1:24:47the car in there, where you're going to brake, all this kind of stuff.
- 1:24:49When you're teaching yourself and relating it back to your previous experience,
- 1:24:53that's when you know you're ready to move up into the more advanced groups.
- 1:24:56Because you can stitch it all together.
- 1:24:58Now, what you're looking for at that point is, I need the tricks of the guys that run
- 1:25:02here all the time to really make me fast.
- 1:25:05And those are things that are easy to learn and easy to pick up.
- 1:25:07So, progression, you shouldn't be in a hurry to get to advanced.
- 1:25:11And let me tell you something, when you do go for a checkout run, most organizations
- 1:25:16that you play with out here, you are being checked out in the next run group up.
- 1:25:21And the qualifications that they're looking for are very different
- 1:25:24than what you're accustomed to.
- 1:25:25So, for instance, here, you go from red to white.
- 1:25:29What they're looking for in white is speed.
- 1:25:31They're looking for etiquette.
- 1:25:32They're looking for situational awareness.
- 1:25:35Maybe you were the fastest guy in red group, so you're not used to
- 1:25:38giving point buys, but you just went from one rung to the other
- 1:25:41where the speeds are much faster.
- 1:25:42If you look at the lap times, in your lap time, you're at
- 1:25:46the bottom of the next group.
- 1:25:47Think to yourself, where am I going to sit when I'm out there?
- 1:25:51I'm going to be a back marker.
- 1:25:52And I don't mean that as a derogatory term, but you've got to be realistic
- 1:25:55with yourself and say, I'm going to have guys all over me, and I'm
- 1:25:58not used to giving point buys.
- 1:25:59So now, my whole awareness changes, right?
- 1:26:02I'm no longer just kind of focused on what's in front of me.
- 1:26:04So, that's what they're going to be testing you for, and every
- 1:26:07time you move up a rung, it becomes more and more difficult.
- 1:26:09So say you go from white to blue group, they want to see how you deal with open
- 1:26:13passing, three abreast, all sorts of weird situations that you're going to be put
- 1:26:16in because it's more like club racing, it's more like door to door racing.
- 1:26:20So you have to think about that.
- 1:26:22So don't be in a hurry to rush and move up.
- 1:26:24Enjoy the experience.
- 1:26:25Enjoy this hobby.
- 1:26:27Right?
- 1:26:27And do get competitive.
- 1:26:28You know, go into the timed part because parts of red group are timed here, right?
- 1:26:32So you can do that without having to move yourself.
- 1:26:35into a class where then you're uncompetitive.
- 1:26:37So again, like we talked about, it all comes full circle.
- 1:26:39The learning how to drive, reading the rulebook, stitching all this stuff
- 1:26:42together, getting creative and whatnot.
- 1:26:45It just brings us back to, be safe, have fun, the learning
- 1:26:50will come, and the speed is last.
- 1:26:52That's pretty much my spiel.
- 1:26:53Any other questions, anything you guys want to discuss?
- 1:26:56Otherwise, I won't keep you here, it's lunchtime.
- 1:26:58I mean, that's it for classroom.
- 1:26:59We don't get together again after that.
- 1:27:01You know, see some of the group leaders if you have a problem.
- 1:27:03Talk to John Katz, talk to Corey, Brad, anybody from the staff.
- 1:27:07You're YouTube?
- 1:27:08YouTube.
- 1:27:09com forward slash Grantory Motorsports.
- 1:27:11Grantory Motorsports.
- 1:27:12G R A N.
- 1:27:14Yeah.
- 1:27:16Alright guys, if there's no further questions, normally we would dissect
- 1:27:19the track if it was bigger, but it's not that complicated today, so.
- 1:27:23But if you've got any questions, come see me, and you know, like I said, just
- 1:27:25be safe out there, and stay hydrated.
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