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Only Fans Secrets, Britney Files, Alix Earle and RHOC with Jacques Peterson · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
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  Speaker 1: know about the drawer. The drawer. Just the one square
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  Speaker 1: before bed. Or two, you know. Nobody's watching.
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  Speaker 2: You deserve a treat.
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  Speaker 1: With eight flavours to choose from, you can choose the
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  Speaker 1: flavour you favour with Cadbury Dairy Milk.
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  Speaker 3: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: When you're on the road, when you're on the go,
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  Speaker 2: Juicy Scoop is the show to know.
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  Speaker 3: She talks Hollywood tales for real life, Mr. Saving Serial
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  Speaker 3: to the number one tabloid real life podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Listen in, listen up.
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  Speaker 1: Woo, woo.
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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 4: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have a first
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  Speaker 2: time Juicy Scooper delight. Jacques Peterson, gorgeous, Australian. People are
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  Speaker 2: going to die for your voice. Also, you might know
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  Speaker 2: him from the Unpopular podcast. He's also a writer at
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  Speaker 2: the Daily Mail. And we have some good conversations and
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited for everyone to hear them.
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  Speaker 4: We have some juicy conversations and this is So freaking weird.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like an OG Juicy Scooper, like the start. Used
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  Speaker 4: to go through the tabloids and like react to them.
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  Speaker 4: And now I'm like, what's happening? Very surreal.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, well, I love it. How are you enjoying LA life?
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 4: I have seen two crackheads masturbating on the street.
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  Speaker 2: Together?
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  Speaker 4: No, two separate instances. But, you know, it's twice in
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  Speaker 4: the span of a few months, but that's LA for you.
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  Speaker 4: It was under the blanket. I'm like, what's going on there?
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  Speaker 4: And it was like, oh, okay. But I love it.
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  Speaker 4: I went to something about her. Got a BLT.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, well, let's get into it. Well, some sad but
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  Speaker 2: unsurprising news. Brittany has filed for divorce from Jax.
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  Speaker 4: And she just, you know, irreconcilable differences.
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  Speaker 2: So nothing too big. And she, you know, wants to
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  Speaker 2: have all the money that she had, that she's made
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  Speaker 2: on her own, that she's inherited. Of course, she'll have
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  Speaker 2: to deal with the house. though I think she's been
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  Speaker 2: living not there for a while. So they're going to
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  Speaker 2: have to sell the house or do something with that.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm thinking maybe there isn't really a lot of
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  Speaker 2: equity in it because it may have dipped a little,
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  Speaker 2: but whatever. Then she said she wants to have shared custody,
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  Speaker 2: but more like he'll have visitation. So it'll be a
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  Speaker 2: joint custody, but I think that she will be There's
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  Speaker 2: two different ways to say it, where she'll be the
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  Speaker 2: main person that makes the decisions, but that he'll have
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  Speaker 2: his set times to be with his son, Cruz.
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  Speaker 4: Well, she's the breadwinner. I don't know if people know
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  Speaker 4: that because when they got fired for– I can't remember
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  Speaker 4: why they got– when they fired everyone.
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  Speaker 2: For like– They got fired because it started with– someone
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  Speaker 2: was remembered, Stassi, going on a podcast. It was all
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  Speaker 2: about faith. Yeah, well- Faith, who slept with Jax, there
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  Speaker 2: was a lot of non-nice things being said about Faith
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  Speaker 2: on podcasts and on Twitter and on that that involved Stassi, Jax,
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  Speaker 2: Kristen Doty. Yes. And I think Jax- was not totally
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  Speaker 2: part of that, but he got in a fight with
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  Speaker 2: somebody else from 90 Day Fiancé. And it was just
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  Speaker 2: a very volatile time. It was 2020.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he got in trouble for having the pastor. They said,
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  Speaker 4: your pastor's homophobic or whatever. There was a lot of things.
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  Speaker 2: Your past.
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  Speaker 4: Am I pronouncing it wrong?
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  Speaker 2: I thought you said pasta. Yeah, well, like.
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  Speaker 4: Because I'm Australian. It's not about the pastor. Like the
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  Speaker 4: church thing.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that was all... Oh, the pastor. Yes, they were
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  Speaker 2: going to have a... A certain pastor married them and
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  Speaker 2: they were in the heat for that because someone then,
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  Speaker 2: you know, went deep diving on him. And in the end,
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  Speaker 2: they had Lance Bass marry them, I think.
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  Speaker 4: That's quite a pivot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So they had their big wedding.
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  Speaker 4: When they got fired, right, she was bringing in the
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  Speaker 4: money because she got a big Weight Watchers deal. And
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  Speaker 4: I think it was worth like half a million because
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  Speaker 4: he went on that House of Villains. And he was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: my wife's a boss. Like she's bringing in the big bucks.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, she's got the money. She's got the, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I think she should cut it. I mean, I like Jax,
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  Speaker 4: but she can do better.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, when it first happened and I was
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  Speaker 2: like talking to Lala about it, you know, I said,
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  Speaker 2: what do you really think? And she's like, I think
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  Speaker 2: she's totally done. I mean, that was like months. That
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  Speaker 2: was when it was announced, like in January. That's when
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  Speaker 2: she said the separation was January 2024. And I think
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  Speaker 2: they kind of said that they were separated like maybe
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  Speaker 2: March or something right before the premiere. And I was
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  Speaker 2: kind of like, really? But then they would have moments
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  Speaker 2: where he'd come on the podcast and people would be like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: they're laughing and everything, which I think is great. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's great. Let's pray that they have a friendship
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  Speaker 2: because they're going to be raising their son for the
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  Speaker 2: rest of his life. So I hope that there isn't
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  Speaker 2: a big jealousy. She's like, Hey, I don't want you.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you find a wonderful woman who's nice to
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  Speaker 2: her kid. I think she's in that place. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think she's going to be jealous if he dates anybody.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be the opposite if she
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  Speaker 2: falls in love with someone.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, a hundred percent. She's putting the kid first. Cause
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  Speaker 4: when I actually interviewed her for Daily Mail and I,
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  Speaker 4: this was sort of after the split got announced and
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  Speaker 4: she was like, she pretty much said, yeah, after I
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  Speaker 4: had a cruise that changed my priorities and I had
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  Speaker 4: a look at what my future would be and what
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  Speaker 4: my life would be. And I think she just puts
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  Speaker 4: the kid first and Jax has taken a backseat.
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  Speaker 2: It was, I think, a struggle. And then The Valley
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  Speaker 2: is filming now. What do you think? I'm hearing different things.
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  Speaker 2: Is Vanderpump, as we know it, do you think it
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  Speaker 2: is done, done?
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't think it's done. I think they're just
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  Speaker 4: putting it on pause, giving people a breather. They might
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  Speaker 4: do a reboot, although they kind of tried like a
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  Speaker 4: semi-reboot years ago and they brought in all those new
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  Speaker 4: people and they fired them.
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  Speaker 2: But Right, and then they had the resurgence with the
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  Speaker 2: old because of the Scannaball. However, there's reports coming out
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  Speaker 2: now that supposedly the producers have been trying to find
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  Speaker 2: waiters and things that would be good to bring on
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  Speaker 2: a reality show at TomTom and Schwartz and Sandy and
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  Speaker 2: are like, it's not really, no one's really popping.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's, and then supposedly Lala and Sheena are
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  Speaker 2: filming with the Valley girls.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I had heard that they did not. So I
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  Speaker 4: heard a while ago that they weren't planning on like
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  Speaker 4: transitioning Vanderpump people over to the Valley because Vanderpump was
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  Speaker 4: going really well. The Valley's a hit. The Valley has
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  Speaker 4: an amazing new cast with new stories. But I just
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  Speaker 4: think that now this pause is going on for so
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  Speaker 4: long and now Jax is off, you know, getting treated
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  Speaker 4: for whatever. Yeah. And I think that now they've got
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  Speaker 4: like a holder fill on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think if I was a producer
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  Speaker 2: of The Valley and Lala and Sheena aren't doing anything
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  Speaker 2: Thursday and I could be like, let's figure out a
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  Speaker 2: day rate for you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you're going to be at the birthday party anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Why don't you guys both come and this is how
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  Speaker 2: much you make and let's see what will happen. And
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  Speaker 2: I think that's smart for them to do. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think they can be like, You know, too picky at
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  Speaker 2: this point. And it is a genuine friendship they have.
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  Speaker 2: And they do live down the street. And let's see
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  Speaker 2: what happens.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Lala's about to pop, though. Like, how far is she? Like,
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  Speaker 4: what is she filming? I mean, is she just sitting
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  Speaker 4: there like.
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  Speaker 2: Let me have this baby? I don't even know if
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  Speaker 2: she really is filming. That's just what I've heard. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: But I would think that she would. Why not? You know?
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  Speaker 2: But I think she's due in like a week. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: who knows what that will do to the show. Are
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  Speaker 2: they still going to have a podcast together? I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how much they own of the restaurant. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know because I know he owns it with other people,
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  Speaker 2: but it seemed like a pretty good deal.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the podcasting business is pretty competitive. You've got Vicki
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  Speaker 4: Gunvalson and who else? I think Megan King-Edmonds might have one.
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  Speaker 4: Quinn Frye will probably launch one soon.
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  Speaker 2: I should just have a shirt that says, get a job,
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  Speaker 2: not a podcast. OK, I'll make that. OK, but no,
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  Speaker 2: it's so hopefully she looks great. And I think there's
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  Speaker 2: only going to be more stuff that's going to be
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  Speaker 2: available to her now that she's single. She can go
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  Speaker 2: on dating shows. She can do products about more hair, makeup,
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  Speaker 2: baby stuff, dating and then and then have this another
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to fall in love again. If the love is gone,
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  Speaker 2: it's gone.
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  Speaker 4: That'll be fun actually watching her with the new romance
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  Speaker 4: on the show because we've only ever known her with Jax.
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  Speaker 4: We've never seen her like single with the new man
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  Speaker 4: or anything. Right. I mean, I think the Valley is amazing.
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  Speaker 4: I think this is going to keep.
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  Speaker 2: Getting better and better. Oh, wait, I just had a
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  Speaker 2: prediction come to me.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, what is it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, talk about someone who has had a pretty flawless
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  Speaker 2: reputation as a reality star all these years because she
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  Speaker 2: was always poor, suffering Britney. Always nice. Always nice to everybody,
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  Speaker 2: to fans, to me, to everybody. She is a nice person.
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  Speaker 2: She is a delight. But now she gets her groove back.
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  Speaker 2: She gets her sparkle back. She starts getting deals. She's
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  Speaker 2: the new Ariana. And then what happens? Then do they
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  Speaker 2: start coming for her? Then do they start being like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, she had two dates in a row. It
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  Speaker 2: was her weekend with Cruise. I'm just saying, like, everyone
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  Speaker 2: thinks Jack's so bad, but he let her go to
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  Speaker 2: Cabo with her new man.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm home with my kids. My kids are little. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Tacky Muffet, like, just get ready.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like that was already happening a little bit
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  Speaker 4: last season. I felt like some of the tweets were
• 10:17
  Speaker 4: kind of turning on her. And I feel like the
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  Speaker 4: opposite happened with Katie on Vanderpump because it was like
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  Speaker 4: people never really liked Katie because... next to Schwartz, because
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  Speaker 4: he's so adorable, she always seemed like the nag. And
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  Speaker 4: then she got rid of him. And then they saw Katie, like,
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  Speaker 4: by herself doing her thing. And they're like, oh, my God,
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  Speaker 4: we love her. Now I feel like she's the most
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  Speaker 4: popular person.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. And also because that dry... way about
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  Speaker 2: her that some people thought were boring. It was like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: it was like Yoda in the corner. Like everything she was,
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  Speaker 2: she was right about everybody.
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  Speaker 6: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it's fucking weird. Like just the way
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  Speaker 2: she is was like amazing.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like Janet is like the new Katie. I
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  Speaker 4: feel like Janet is the Katie of the Valley and
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  Speaker 4: people kind of like, she got so much hate first season,
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  Speaker 4: but I think like in a few years it'll turn around.
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  Speaker 4: They'll be like, wow, Janet was right about like a
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  Speaker 4: lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Um, something about her, uh, this is their page, um,
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  Speaker 2: seems to be doing great. You've said you've gone and
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  Speaker 2: enjoyed a couple sandwiches. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, I went there, I took my, you know what?
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  Speaker 4: I didn't want to go there cause I was like,
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  Speaker 4: it's so touristy. I want to pretend I was like
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  Speaker 4: too cool to do any of that. So I held
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  Speaker 4: it all off. And then my friend from Australia was
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  Speaker 4: here and then I'm like, let's do the Vanderpump tour.
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  Speaker 4: So I went to something about her, loved it. Katie's
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  Speaker 4: mom served me.
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  Speaker 2: So nice. She's so cute.
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  Speaker 4: She was very hands-on. We just said, we'll just do
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  Speaker 4: tap water. And then she's like, I'll get it. And
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  Speaker 4: she got it from the little machine. And then she
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  Speaker 4: cleared the table and I didn't finish my pickles. So
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  Speaker 4: she took that away. So yeah, it was nice. I
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  Speaker 4: loved it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, interesting because Some of these people that were the
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: thirsty characters are still lurking around. So apparently Tom's old
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  Speaker 2: assistant who then jumped over and was going to work
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  Speaker 2: for Ariana has posted like my hours were cut. at
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  Speaker 2: something about her. So can you guys all listen to
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  Speaker 2: my podcast? Otherwise, I don't know what I'm going to
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: do because the ship has sailed. No one cares. She
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: got like a battery. She got like a commercial. But
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: these things go real quick. Like the excitement goes real
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  Speaker 2: quick and then it's like crickets. And so I went
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: on their page and I think she really is. I
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: think they're really done with her because she's nowhere on
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: the page. And then they did this cute thing where
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  Speaker 2: they highlighted some of their favorite workers like on Polaroids.
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  Speaker 2: And there was 10 people and she was not one
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  Speaker 2: of them.
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  Speaker 4: Anne's nowhere to be found.
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  Speaker 2: No, Anne is nowhere to be found in this grid
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  Speaker 2: at all.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the server that I had there was very lovely.
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  Speaker 4: And also, look. I'm not going to say you shouldn't hire. Look,
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  Speaker 4: everyone deserves to work. They're a good worker, but she's
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  Speaker 4: the most, Anne is the most unprofessional person ever on
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  Speaker 4: the show. First of all, she backstabs Tom to go
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: work for Ariana. So that's completely unprofessional as it is.
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  Speaker 4: Then Ariana gives her a job at the sandwich shop
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  Speaker 4: and then she's going on Instagram going, oh, they cut
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  Speaker 4: my hours. Like, please subscribe to my Patreon or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, what?
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  Speaker 2: If they weren't thinking about it now, they're like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I think you go along.
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  Speaker 4: You're not coming in on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: And listen, what other story do you have to tell?
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  Speaker 2: You've told it all. You've had it for a few
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  Speaker 2: months now. There's no other dirt you have on anybody. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, her podcast is called like it's like I broke
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: the NDA or something.
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  Speaker 2: I signed an NDA. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But the concept is like, yeah, we signed an NDA,
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  Speaker 4: but we don't give a shit. And we're just going
• 13:43
  Speaker 4: to like spill it all anyway. It's like, OK, well,
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: good luck working in Hollywood. Like, come on. I know.
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  Speaker 2: Does anyone ever think about that? Like, I think they
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  Speaker 2: just think it's so easy that like, oh, this will
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  Speaker 2: get going and I won't ever have to. be a
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: writer or an actor or anything. I'm just going to
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: be Heather McDonald. Well, it's a little harder than you think.
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  Speaker 2: Then also Joe. So this, this got picked up by
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people. This is her Instagram, Joe who
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  Speaker 2: dated Schwartz. And she just posted this yesterday and it
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: was really, it must've taken a long time. You know,
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  Speaker 2: like it was a lot of moments of them together
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  Speaker 2: put to a kind of a nice song. And, you know,
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: in full Joe fashion, just lots of mugging to the camera,
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  Speaker 2: lots of selfies with him and just like doing all
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  Speaker 2: these things and just the fun that they had. And
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: she just basically was like, to heal, I want to
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: put this out there. To heal? No, it's because it's
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  Speaker 2: died down too. People are like not talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: And like this is probably the first time I've talked
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  Speaker 2: about any of this stuff for a while because it's not.
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  Speaker 2: But normally the stars don't care. But for someone that
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  Speaker 2: just got this surgence of like fame and then it
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  Speaker 2: dies down, it's like, oh, my God, what what should
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  Speaker 2: I do to like spark up the interest and get
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  Speaker 2: people to, you know, get on my Instagram? And anyway,
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: people were like, I'm sure his girlfriend loves this, too. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the other people were like, listen, this is
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  Speaker 2: for her. To let the world know that she was gaslit,
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  Speaker 2: that he.
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  Speaker 4: Don't we already know she was gaslit? I mean, that
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  Speaker 4: was the storyline. I mean, how long ago.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, of course he acted like it was more of
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: a relationship when she was around than when other people
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: were around. But that's what you should know as a girl. Like,
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  Speaker 2: if you're not meeting the parents and, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: he's not holding your hand when you walk... He literally
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: took her to a dating place and was like, see ya. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go meet these other girls and do
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  Speaker 2: speed dating. And she was like, but it's like well
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  Speaker 2: i guess we'll go home and i'll still give you
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  Speaker 2: a bj but you know and it's like and then
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: we're supposed to feel sorry for you like you're you
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  Speaker 2: know 28 and.
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  Speaker 4: How long ago was it when they filmed i think
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: she's older than 28 but i mean you have to
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: factor in cute.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: No she's not pretty it just is like yeah.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah i mean this must have happened like two years
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: ago or something now it's insane it's like fatal attraction
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: it's creepy she'd get a restraining order It's a lot.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: Like if someone was still– and I had moved on
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: and they're posting reels of when we hooked up two
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: years ago, I'd be like– I always.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Think there's a thing I used to call with men
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: and I'd say, well, he had very bad bedside manner.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Like a doctor that is just like, you're going to
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: die in two weeks. That's some– a doctor with bad
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: bedside manner. I think there's guys that don't know how
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: to like end it nicely or he thought he was
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: by kind of luring her on a little bit and
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: then– You know, and then it made him look bad
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: in the end.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: Didn't he also tell her that it was, that they
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: were just hanging out? Or did he say, oh God,
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: I can't remember. I don't even want to remember.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: It's PTSD.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: I don't care.
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: Moving on.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: for it? This exclusive place that Dad has connections with.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: They have more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: It's Dunaidial.
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: Where?
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Dunaidial. There's an accent on the E. Do you mean... Yes,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: I got it on Dundale Cars. Lift, please. Are you
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: No.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Dundale Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Life is one long lesson of chaos. I'm heading to
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: the Emmys, and I have police complaints filed against me.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: what would you do if it was given back?
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: He said, I have a work dad.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: I need a home dad. What happens next?
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: When I came in, he started crying.
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: those hard moments that they go through.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: It's about what happens next. I decided to risk it all.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: I realized how valuable every day was.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: You're worth the work.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, so this is very interesting since we're talking about
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: this type of stuff. Alex Earle is this huge influencer
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: for those that don't know. Huge on TikTok. Really blew
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: up like two years ago when she just started doing
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: tons of content, like 15 videos a day about her life.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: And she'd show like her dirty apartment and she'd talk
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: about her hilarious night. And it really felt like people
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: were talking to her girlfriend. So she'd be like, oh
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: my God, last night, blah, blah, blah. And she's pretty
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: and has great style. So she's up to like six
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: million plus followers on TikTok. She has her own podcast
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: under Alex Cooper's podcast thing. She's a huge influencer, has
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: a really cute boyfriend that's down to do all the videos. Anyway,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: about maybe a week and a half ago, somebody found these,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: it was like a weird ask question. FM something? Okay, yes,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: I know what that is. Was that part of Twitter?
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: What was that? It was 10 years ago.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Yes, it was like a third-party website or something, and
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: then people just asked you questions if you were bored.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Anonymously or whatever. Yes, yep. So somebody found that, which
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: is like shock. I just feel like someone.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Can people get a life? Sorry to segue, but it's like,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: come on. Are you looking to see what Alex Earl
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: did 10 years ago?
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: So she was 13, and in answering the questions, they
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: were short sentences- And, but they would involve, they involve
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: the word, But from what I can tell, it was
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: used like an appropriation way. It was used like a
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: way a rapper would do it. Still not okay. Can't
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: believe she typed it. Awful, right? But I saw that.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: And so I'm going through TikTok and I'm seeing different
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: people show it and talk about it. And You know,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: other people are like, no one's going to care. Do
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: you think all the girls going through Alabama sorority rush
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: are going to stop following Alex Earl because she did this?
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, let's just be honest. People were like, you're
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: on the wrong crusade. Nothing's going to happen. And she's
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: not responding. She's not responding. And I was like, I
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: think that's the thing to do. I think she just
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: shouldn't respond. This will go away. Well, yesterday, I guess
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: she cracked. And she wrote– did it on her stories.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: It was me. There's no excuse. I never knew what
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: really that word meant and why it's so hurtful and
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry and all this stuff. But in it,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: she's like, there's a lot of things on social media
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: that are not true and I did not try to
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: copyright these tweets or something, which was so weird. So
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: then I start finding more things and– Where she made
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: the mistake is I believe people like Alex Earl or
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: somebody who was probably like, girl, I've been through this.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: You were 13. But if you explain it, now there's
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: a Daily Mail article. And there actually was. There was
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: a Daily Mail article about it. But there wasn't until
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: she responded. So it's like because I've been through stuff
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: like this myself. I'm like, wow. So then anyway, I
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: go and I look and I'm like, let me see
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: the hate that she's talking about. Well, these haters of
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: her literally write the same things to her that they
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: do to me. Oh, really? And she's like 30 years
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: younger than I am, but it's the same stuff. Did
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: you see that outfit she was wearing? Oh, her sister
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: hates her. You know her sister hates her. When is
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: her boyfriend going to leave her? Why do her teeth
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: look like that? She looks so old. I'm like, this
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: girl is 23 and gorgeous. But I'm thinking, oh, I'm like,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I think this happened. I think she found this hate.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I think she was immune to having hate for two years.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: And like got sucked in this awful world and felt
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I have to say something because I'm not this evil person.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: But then by saying it, now there's an article. I
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: was never going to bring it up. But now that
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: she said something, I'm like, I'm going to bring it
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: up because I don't think she should lose anything. If
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: you like her, you like her. If you decide not
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: to like her anymore, move the fuck along.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: It's fine.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: There's plenty of other influences.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: You'll live.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: There's plenty of other.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Girls that can show you how to wash their face
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: while they tell a story or eat a giant salad
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: while they tell a story about their stepmother.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: Munching along in there like Bethany.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're not into it, there isn't– yeah, it's okay.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's my advice to other people. I think
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: in certain– yes, if you're arrested for something, if you're
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: accused of murder, yes. You need to leave your kid
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: in a hot car. You better fucking explain yourself. But
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: when it's just like something like that where just a
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: small percentage of people have hooked on it or– I
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: don't know. But then I think what happened is she
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: freaked out and she got lawyers involved. And then the
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: lawyers– We're like, hello, our biggest client? And these guys
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: are probably like, all right, better say something. Instead of
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: like talking to a PR person and being like, look,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: she wants us to do this thing. So then they
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: go after these two podcasters that are just two girls
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: that are probably creaming in their pants that anybody from
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Alex Earle's camp has like approached them. And now they're
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: at their podcast room with a highlighted sign and they're like, Um,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: these people are threatening us saying that we said something
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: on this site about her and dah, dah, dah, dah.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: And it was just like, ah, now it's a thing.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: So much of this is fake as well. Cause like
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: you said, it's just like people on, you know, internet forum,
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: you know, bitching and whining and it doesn't really mean
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: anything and you can just ignore it. And it does
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: go away because those sort of people are bitching and
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: moaning and canceling people all day. But I was talking
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: to someone recently that's like a talent manager for like
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: really big people. And he was like, oh, one of
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: our clients got into hot water because they posted something
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: that they weren't supposed to. And I'm like, who cares? Like,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: it's just some people on Instagram. Like, do you guys
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: actually pay attention to that? And he's like, yeah, we do.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Because it's like, I don't think it really affects anybody,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: but then the people that are higher up that call
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: the decisions and they freak out.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: They make a bigger deal out of it.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Yes, and then they go, oh, my God, the people
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: are talking about, you know, so-and-so, like Camila Cabello. Now
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: we have to put out a statement and it's like
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: they just turn it into a thing. It's like everyone
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: calm down. Like someone had a shady tweet from 10
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: years ago. Everyone's going to leave. It's fine. We can
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: move on.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I just don't think that those things should,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: you know, be as. And then the thing is, is
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: that like with reality shows, too, I was like when
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: they would bring up things. Oh, about Jackson, Brittany. Oh, well,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: it's all over, you know, the site that he was
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: cheating or whatever. I'm like, who's to say that somebody
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: that the call wasn't coming inside the house? Who's to
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: say that some producer was like, you know what your
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: job is. Start some shit. They're going to read it tomorrow.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: We know this happened with New Jersey. And so it's like,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: those things shouldn't be, what is online should not be
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: brought into the show. We should be able to watch
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: the show and the conversations that are happening and not
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: this like weird thing. It's literally, and I feel like
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: so many times in the calls within the house, whether
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: it's somebody you know that you think is a friend
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: is posing as Yes. You know, pussy five, 52 or whatever,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: and saying a bunch of shit that they because they
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: know you so well, so they know the evil shit
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: to say. And you'll never know because it's anonymous. We'll
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: never know who's on that thing. But like it is
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: just it is kind of fascinating, you know, and but. Yeah,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: the thing is, don't look at it. Don't look at it.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: And they just move on to someone else.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: There's freedom in not looking at it and not caring.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: And I also think as far as like reality shows go,
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: and you were saying that we shouldn't have the online
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: world mixing so much into the shows. I think, you know,
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: I think Bravo especially has done a really... I think
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: they've made a mistake with the whole like Bravo con
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: and everything because... These women, we're supposed to be watching
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: people live their real lives, right?
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: And we made them rock stars.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they go to BravoCon, they're like the Beatles.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: And then they're reading all of their DMs and then
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: they're talking to the bloggers and the podcasters and they
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: have their own podcasts and it's just like too much.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: I feel like, honestly, like ban BravoCon, ban the podcast.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: No one's allowed to have a podcast anymore. Their social
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: media comments need to be moderated.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I think they probably will start that.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: They should. But then they make so much money off
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: of that.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: No, but like they could. I'm not saying they– I'm
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: just saying if you want to try to kind of
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: save this art form, I would say like maybe there
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: is something in there that's like you can have a
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: book but you can't have a podcast. Yeah. If you
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: want to tell your story, tell it in a book.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: But at least it won't be like you recapping the
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: episode daily. I don't know.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: I also think– That's the strategy from Bravo, because what
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: they want is they want to get people so hooked
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: that they just have a constant 24-7, 365 stream of content. Because,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: you know, these Bravo superfans, they're listening to every freaking podcast,
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: like looking at every single comment. every you know some
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: of the housewives are these fake fights on twitter when
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: the episode's airing yeah and they're hooked into all of
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: that and it reminds me of like 90 day fiance
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: how that just kept expanding and expanding and it was
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: just you know eventually they got to the point where
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: it was like the old cast members would just re-watch
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: their episode and react to it and they and they
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: just make sure they have like 90 day fiance programming
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: all year round because the fans get in the habit
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: of it and then they don't leave so i also
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: think it's like they're trying to get us addicted into it.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So I think that's part of it. And then
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: when you know what, when you, when you miss it,
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: like I used to watch a lot of the 90
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: day stuff and it is a good show, but then
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: I kind of, I don't know, I went on a
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: holiday or something and missed it for a few weeks.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: I came back and I'm like, I'm fine.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I was very into it back when it was like
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Annie and like the original season. Cause I was like,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. It was fun to talk about.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: But then when it came, I was just like, I
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: don't know, like I just stopped caring about it. And
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, I get that people are still into it
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: and it's fun and I think it's great, but I
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: felt it was just really fake and I just lost interest.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: I follow the TLC Instagram, so I get the little
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: highlights and like Angela and Michael are still going at it.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: They're still on it.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: It's the same thing.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about OC. What are your thoughts
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: so far with everything that's going on? And then I'll
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: chime in.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Love this season. I loved last season. Yeah. You know,
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: it's back on track. And you know what? I actually
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: love everyone on the show. I feel like now, especially
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: in recent years, and because I've now I've met a
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: lot of the housewives and the Vanderpump people and everything,
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: and I see them more as, you know, like fully
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: formed human beings, not just one dimensional TV characters. So
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: I'm not like team anybody. I think everyone's killing it.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: Emily's my favorite. I even like Katie. I know a
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: lot of people aren't liking the new girl, Katie. I
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: think she's good. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I'm into it.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's funny because with Emily, you know,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: it's weird that she's so critical of Jen not having
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: like money or whatever her struggle is.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: I'm like.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty much isn't, aren't his parents like
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: helping to support their family?
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: I guess, but she's still, I mean, I don't, Emily
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: Simpson would never get herself into a situation like Jen
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: has got into. And if this was in real life,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: say this is a real friend group and the cameras
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: aren't there, you would be like, Why the fuck is
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Jen in Vegas with a Rolex and doing all this
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: when she's going through? You know, like she can't even
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: pay her rent and she's often vague. Like you'd be
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: gossiping about that.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: But she's in Vegas because the guy is like into
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: gambling or something. And we find out later what hot
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: water he's in too. And she doesn't want to know
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: where the money was coming from. She doesn't want to ask.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: She wants to have fun. She's been trying to get
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: on the show for years. But at least she's kind
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: of nice. I love her. Now, what do you think
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: the whole thing with Shannon and these videos? So this
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: was the big scoop. So Shannon, as you know, got
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: a DUI and she, the way I understand it is
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: she was having drinks, but then she took an Uber home,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: but then she realized like she left her phone or something.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: At the restaurant. So then she got in her car
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: with her dog and went to John's to see if
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: he could help her retrieve the phone. I don't know.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: They got in a fight or an argument. She got
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: in the car and then lost control of the car
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: and hit a house. And in doing that, now it's
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: come out through Alexis, who's now dating John. He has
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: video that will ruin her life, ruin her reputation. It's
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: so bad.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: It's so bad.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: And I thought, I just think the audience does not
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: like that this is a conversation that she's basically being blackmailed.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: And it felt very like when they were sitting at
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Tamara's house and Tamara was like, he has the videos.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: He has the videos. And that's what she's talking about.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Because we already planned it before, like that we were
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: going to talk about it when we were in the
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: bear costumes. We were going to bring up the videos.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: So yeah. Alexis, don't you remember? Like you're supposed to
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: say it a little more casually. Now I have to
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: help you.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: John knows what the videos are. And they could, I don't,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I never saw them. I just know that they could
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: absolutely destroy her life and destroy her children's lives. But
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I don't want to get involved. And you're like, what?
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: And she's doing it like on E and Extra and
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: all these other things. And so then, then we're like,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: what's on these videos? And I had some fun with that. Like,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I was like, I literally was like, wanted to film something.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, what is it? Just like her, like
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: going down on like some food that wasn't hers or whatever.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: And she's like, what are you doing? You're eating my
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: son's pizza. No, but apparently.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: It's like the Faust and the Furious or something.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Katie said, the new girl said, it's her leaving, I guess.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: And where maybe the daughter was outside and it looks
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: like she may have hit, could have hit the daughter,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: but didn't. And then people are like, well, if that's
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: really the case, why didn't you immediately call the police?
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: So why is this? And now I feel like what's
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: going to happen is now John's going to be like,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: this plan, Alexis, that you and I had to not
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: only get my 75 grand back, but restore my reputation
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: for not being cheap. Because she keeps talking about how
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I had to go buy all the, I had to
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: buy all the rooms at the London. I would go
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: and buy him coffee. When Andy would ask me to
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: go to watch what happens live, I could have had
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: two coach seats or one first class. I upgraded him.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I did that. I did that because John. And so
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: he's like, fuck that. You offered me that first class ticket.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: So we're going to let the world know. But then somehow,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: this is what I think. I think it was Tamra.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: who knew about the videos and was like, oh, we're
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: dropping the videos because I don't want people to ever
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: be on Shannon's side or feel sorry for her. So
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: we need to remind them that she, you know, we
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: need to remind MAD, you know, Mothers Against Drug Drivers,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: who this person is. And now I think Alexis and
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: John are like, oh, shit, this didn't go the way
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: we thought it was going to go by dangling her.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: this revenge video.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: I i'm a little shocked as well i mean not
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: now watching it but before the season aired i thought
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: shannon was kind of a really bad season the people
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: wouldn't like her because you know people it's dy you
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: know someone could have died it's a serious thing you
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: know they didn't and i've always been a shannon hater
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: like i've never been a shannon fan i've always thought
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: she just you know, the victim complex. I always thought
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: she had a problem with alcohol, all of it. And
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: then even me this season, I like feel bad for
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: her and I like her because, you know, it's just
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: hard when you see everyone go at somebody and she,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: and I think she is doing, I think she's doing
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: the work like Stassi. I think she is, I think
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: she's trying to change. At first I thought she was
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: just I thought it was fake. And as I watch her,
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: I think she's genuinely remorseful. I think she hit rock bottom.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, she had a relationship implode and
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: got humiliated and she's building herself back up. But I
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: will say with Tamara, I know everyone hates Tamara now,
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: but I am so glad that Tamara's holding her feet
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: to the fire because it would be so boring if
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: no one was being that person to like grill Shannon.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: If everyone just rallied around her.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, the thing is people are liking the show.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: But part of it, and I think Tamara knows that,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: you know, part of it is, I'd rather you like
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: the show than like me. I'd rather it not be like,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I love everybody on it, but they're so boring. I'm
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: not going to turn it on tonight. So who cares
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: if everyone is nice? So I get what makes it.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: And I get that Tamara is like, you know, pissed
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: because she, you know, felt like she was that great friend.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: And I think- It's because she's getting her back from
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: two years ago when Shannon just dumped her. When she
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: wasn't on the show, Shannon totally dumped her and made
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: her feel like the leper and made her feel like
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: this loser that wasn't on the show and wasn't calling
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: her back. And then when she came back, she was
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: acting all sweet last season. And then when this happened,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: she was just like, No. And then I also just
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: don't think she wanted to do the Trace Amigas, but whatever.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think she wanted to do the Trace Amigas.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, I loved last season as well, but that
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Shannon and Tamra making up was so fake. So I
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: prefer seeing them go at it now because it feels
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: more like, okay, this is how they really feel about
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: each other.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: And then Vicky, who's always like, we're best friends. They've
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: had so many wicked, horrible fights over the years. And
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: now that they're not friends, like she'll just drop like
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: mean things in interviews. Like, oh, remember when she threw
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: that wine in your face, Gina? You know, and your
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: eye almost fell out of your head because of the alcohol. Well,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: that's Tamara for you. I'm like, wait, what? Like you
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: went on to be film 17 seasons with her and
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: go on trips and speak. So and speak nice of
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: her at reunions and other times not like none of
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: you guys are friends. None of you would fuck with
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: each other if the cameras weren't there.
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: Never.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: I always call it Survivor Newport Beach because I don't
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: really watch it as a reality show. I'm like, they're
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: all playing Survivor. It's all strategy. And I think some
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: of the shows you have to watch with that mindset now, like,
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: because some people go, oh, it's so fake now. And
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: it's like, well, it is. But it's like, if you
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: just watch it and you just pretend that you're watching Survivor,
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: it's still super entertaining. Even with New Jersey, which I
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: actually loved this season of New Jersey. I know a
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: lot of people didn't. But I was like, this is
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Game of Thrones.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Speaking of things that you should not tell. OK, when
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: I say everyone has a podcast, maybe don't tell every story.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: So Tyrese Gibson, actor, model, all the things that he does.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: He said on a podcast that he had to act
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: like he had special needs so that his mother could
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: get a benefit check. And he said that was my
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: first acting job. And look, the guy laughed too when
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: he told it and everything. But then when someone takes
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: it out of the podcast and puts it in black
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: and white on TMZ, it's like, oh my God. And
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: so the comments were just like, first of all, his
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: mom has passed. Others were like, hey, this is part
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: of the struggle and she did what she has to do.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Other people are like, I work for the government and
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: that's why this is so hard because there are people
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: that fake it and then it takes money from the
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: people who really need it. But I'm just like, listen,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I know there isn't a lot of work happening in Hollywood.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: So you want to be productive with your day. So
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: you go on your friend's podcast. But just like Lily
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Allen should not have told that puppy story. This is
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: not the story to tell. Think about the stories you're
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: going to share that have never been shared. And then
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: think about the ripple effect they might have.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: Okay. As someone that works at the Daily Mail and is,
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: you know... works with publicists and stuff all the time
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: this stuff's interesting because you can get away with an
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: edgy story like this depending on what your brand is
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: because there's like there's heaps of politically incorrect podcasters and
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: commentators out there that could do that and it would
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: be so funny and what's that guy matt something with
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: the big lips he's blew up i don't know whatever
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: he's always pushing the envelope.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: And that's their brand. And then people love them for it.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: But it's like, yeah, if you're just like an, if
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: you're Lily Allen or Tyrese.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Do you mean Matt Rife?
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, him.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, the comedian? Yeah, with the big lips. Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: He's got pouty lips and chiseled.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, they tried to cancel him too. But
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: it didn't work. And he was like, not going to
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: go for it.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: And he went after some, got in a fight with
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: someone that was saying something. He's like, no, I'm going
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: to stick with my joke and I don't really care.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I think the more that that I think
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: we're going in that direction of like, what are you
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: really going to do about it? Yeah. That you don't
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: like my joke or you don't like my story. Are
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: you really going to show up at my house? Are
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: you really going to, you know, get actually have a
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: protest outside? No, you're not.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: And that would take too much effort. His fans love
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: his style of humor. So it's like, are you going
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: to cancel me? It's going to have a million people
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: coming to my next tour. But like, yeah, if you're
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: Lily Allen.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. He did nothing wrong. He was a child.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: He's telling a story about his childhood.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: It's a pretty funny story.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: It's a pretty funny story. Like if it was a
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: standup story, it's a pretty great standup story. I think
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: it's good that she is dead. It wouldn't be cool
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: if she wasn't. Yeah. Because then if she was like
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: at the premiere two months from now and she's on
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: the red carpet, people are going to be like, But
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: she might.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Also be like, it was 40 years ago. Get the
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: fuck over it.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But I just thought, now I've changed my mind.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Now I'm glad that he told this story because it's
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: his reality.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that happened to him.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: That's what his childhood was like. I mean, I tell
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: a lot of stories about my parents, and I told
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: it when they were alive in my book. But now
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I can joke about it. You know, things
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: that probably would be considered not great parenting today.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: So.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. All right.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: Stand up.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: How do you feel about the new New York cast?
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: They're coming back. I love their outfits, by the way.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: They look good.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, because that's all they have. Just nice outfits.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: I mean, I will go on record and I think that.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: You are on record.
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: This is.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: Well, I'm.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: Doubly on record. It is officially the worst Housewives for
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: me out of all of them. Like I even think
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: Dubai is better and like Dubai is horrible. I always
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: call it a show about nothing. It's like nothing happens.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, I try to remember last season. I'm like
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: someone didn't like something with the cheese platter.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: And I remember there was- You're right. There was nothing.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: And then there was an episode where Uber stole a
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: hot sauce from the, or, you know, I don't know,
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: ketchup from like a restaurant. And they would try to
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: turn it into like a moment. They were running around going,
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: oh my God, we stole ketchup. And they ran off.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, what am I watching? Like, this is,
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: what is this? It's just horrible. It's awful.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's, it's not, there isn't a lot. Well, it's like,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I agree. And we're getting to Dubai. Let's just talk
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: about Dubai.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Wait, I just want to say, sorry, with Roni quickly,
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: the most entertaining one was Sai. She was super entertaining
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: and everyone hated her. They were like, fire Sai. And
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: I'm like, she's literally the only one doing anything on
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: this damn show.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: I interviewed her and she's just like very normal. Yeah,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: she's cool.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: She understands the assignment too.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Yes. Wait, I want to insert this little story post-recording
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: because after Jacques left, I'm so bummed that I forgot
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: to have him talk about when he wrote a story
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: for the Daily Mail about Rebecca Minkoff, who's a famous designer,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: but she's also a Scientologist. She has photos with Danny Masterson,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: who went to prison for rape and was on TV
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: shows with Ashton Kutcher and all of that. Now, we
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: know the history of Scientologists as far as, you know,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: what we've heard, that sometimes they get angry if you
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: talk about them, they follow you, they, you know, they
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: can do things. Well, that is what happened to Jacques
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: after he wrote a story about Rebecca Minkoff's father, who
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: was implicated in the, he is a doctor and he
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: was implicated in a death of a Scientologist. And after
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: he wrote this article, which you can Google and find,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: that Jock wrote, then he said the bots came after him.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: He had to change his Twitter account. They really had
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: a harassment going, in his opinion, coming from Scientologists for
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: sharing the story. Now, she is not in this poster.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know if she just didn't bring it. Or
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: maybe she realized after this article, this is probably not
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: the greatest platform for me to be on, being that
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I am a Scientologist. And there's this history that happened
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: with my father who, you know, it was like 20,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: 30 years ago, but it did happen. And I don't
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: want to brought up on the show. It's already been
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: brought up in the Daily Mail. But it was kind
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: of scary and awful for him as a reporter. And
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to share that little bit. So, okay,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: now back to the show. So there are these women
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: in Dubai and it's only on Peacock and I think
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: it's second season. And there was so much time in
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: between that I was like, what is going on? I
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: literally put it on to fall asleep, but I kind
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: of like it for just like their outfits and going
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: to eat and whatever. But the only thing interesting about it,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: there literally is nothing interesting about it except this one
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: girl who I don't even know what her name is.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: I think Sarah.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: No, Talene.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: Oh, Talene. The new one is, I think, is that season?
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: But that's a season one cast, I think. Yeah, you
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: don't even have Talene in that.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: This is Sarah. This is Sarah. This girl, Sarah, is
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: divorced and she has a little boy who's like eight.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: And she starts dating this guy and then she goes,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: you know, he's too controlling. I got offered $ 45, 000 to
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: do this podcast. So did I. You did?
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: And so anyway, I've talked about how I've been getting
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: these emails of people saying, come on this podcast for $ 3, 500.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Have you heard me talk about that?
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: No, wait, so are you getting cash offers? No, they're fake.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: They pretend to be like from SmartLess or Candice Cameron
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: or whoever, Joe Rogan. I got one from Joe Rogan.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: I've gotten from all the best, okay? And they're fake.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Somehow they'll say it's a Facebook Live event and the
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: whole thing is they'll take they'll fuck up your Facebook somehow.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Take all your people. I don't know. Thank God I
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: caught on.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: Just give us your bank details.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: So somebody was like, do you think that 45,000 podcast thing,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: I think that she meant I don't know. Do you
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: think it was that she was saying she was going
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: to do one podcast for $ 45, 000 and the boyfriend wouldn't
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: let her because the guy was hot? Or was it
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: her year contract was $ 45, 000? Oh, okay. Yeah, maybe it's
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: a year contract.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: Or maybe she meant to say $ 4, 500 instead of $ 45, 000.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know. No one's getting any money for podcasts.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: They're doing their reunion today and I hope they'll talk
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what we want to know.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Does anyone care?
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: OK, wait.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: But the only thing juicy about it is I'll tell you,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: the only thing juicy about it was. So then she
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: has a housekeeper like nanny made whatever. And she's like, oh,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: my God, you guys, we had to fire her because
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: I found out that she was bringing men into the
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: apartment and looking at all the stuff. And then she
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: and then like all the ring cameras and on the
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: WhatsApp or whatever that she was able to retrieve from
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: the cops. The men were like, when does the boy
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: come home? He's so cute. How old is he? Like 100%.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: And the whole thing that they brag about Dubai is
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: that it's very safe. Very, very safe. So that was
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: the only thing that I was like, this... is so
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: creepy and has to be discussed. That should have been
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: in the trailer. It doesn't make Dubai look great, but
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: it's the only thing that was interesting because the other
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: thing is there's Caroline Stansbury, who was Ladies of London,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: and she has a young husband who's like 26, Sergio,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: who's obsessed with her, and she's annoyed by his presence.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: And for the last three years, or whatever it's been,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: season one and two, all they talk about is, He
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: wants a baby and she's 48. It's so boring.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: And that's about it.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: And she's not ever going to have his kid. She
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: hasn't gotten pregnant yet. She's never going to have his kid.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: She doesn't want one. She's 50. She doesn't want a
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: kid at 50.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: And then you have Chanel Ayan, who goes out to
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: grab a loaf of bread in a ball gown. It's
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: so annoying. I think she's honestly the number one most annoying.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: I thought Jen Shah was, and then they dropped Chanel Ayan.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, wow, this is bad.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: She's very unenjoyable to watch.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: I feel like it doesn't even feel like a housewife
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: show to me. I feel like what they should have
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: done with this, if I was the producer of Bravo,
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: I would have actually made it Ladies of Dubai. I
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: wouldn't have made it Real Housewives because, you know, Ladies
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: of London, the concept of that was the American expats
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: in London living there. So I feel like they should
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: have done that and just made it Caroline's Back and
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: now it's Ladies of Dubai. And I actually think that
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: People would have enjoyed it more if it was like
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: a new show. And I think as well, when they
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: keep expanding the housewives thing, I think what's bad about
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: it is that everyone's been watching housewives for so long.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: They know the formula and they play it up. That's
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: why you got Chanel Ayan being ridiculous. And they try
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: to have all of these one-liners and it just doesn't
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: feel organic. And I kind of just feel like maybe
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: they should do some other shows so people aren't coming
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: and going, okay, I know I'm a real housewife and
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: this is the formula and the boxes that I have
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: to tick.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah. So Dorinda is going to have her own
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: show at Bluestone Manor. I'm going to do everything really nice.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: I'm going to have this beautiful chef. I have a
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: fabulous chef. I make a lasagna that is better than Brandy's.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: I'm going to cook. I'm going to clean. Everyone's going
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: to love it. You're going to be in rooms. There's
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: going to be balloons. Richard's going to be here.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: You know, they're trying to copy Below Deck now with
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: all these shows because they've got Dorinda and it's going
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: to be– dorinda and bluestone manor and then guests are
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: coming in.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: It's going to be so cheap think about it these
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: kids are going to want to be on the show
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: being like a housekeeper whatever for nothing just like the
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: blow deck and then the thirsty people will want to
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: be guests and they'll be able to exploit them if
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: they ask for anything or whatever then they'll say they're
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: horrible people or it's just going to be.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: The exact formula because they did it with vanderpump villa
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: they have one in Montana coming out now called The
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: Wranglers and it's just below deck but at a ranch. And,
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: you know, I think the reason below deck works specifically
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: because it's such a good show is. you're on a
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: boat in the middle of the ocean so you can't
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: get off. It's such confined quarters and then you have
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: like the most incredible chefs so you get all of
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: the food and then I think you do actually get
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: wealthy guests coming on there and you get the backdrop.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you have to pay at least $ 50, 000.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: And I think just being like, well, let's just do
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: Below Deck in a house. Like, it's just not the same.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: It could be fun though. It could be kind of great.
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: I just feel like they're so lazy.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: What I would do for this is I would have
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Thirsty ex-Bravo people and people like that be the guests.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: That would make it good. I would watch it then, yeah.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: If it was just ex-Bravo.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Like if they offered it to me, sure, why not?
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't I? But I'm not paying 50 grand for
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: the boat, but I would do it for free and
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: have fun with it. I mean, Kelly Rollins will come.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: She never turns down a fake listing showing, whatever. That
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: chick is in everything.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: Larsa Pippen will probably be in there.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Larsa Pippen will come for sure. I mean, bring on
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Gretchen and Slade.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, I would like that, actually. Well, we're never going
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: to see Gretchen in the season of Girls Trip that
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: she did.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Everybody that was on Girls Trip should be able to
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: come with their own friends and family and do this show.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Speaking of which, so the Girls Trip we know, we
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: will never see the light of day because Brandi Glanville
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: allegedly grabbed Caroline Manzo's. Tits. And so anyway, I was like,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: do I even follow her? I don't. Now I do. Anyway,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: she has a book coming out in September. It's her
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: favorite meals, Caroline.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: Who's still giving her a book deal? Like the season
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: didn't even air. I'm just surprised.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just recipes.
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: I know, but still.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: A lot of books are done. You can do them yourself.
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you just put it on Amazon.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even, whatever. So- What do you think
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: was the deal with that, with her filing the lawsuit
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: and everything? Because she did file a suit, right? Caroline did.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: Yes. I think she had too much to drink. I
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: think she had fun with Brandy. I also think– I
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: know you floated the theory that she revealed too much
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: about Dina and stuff like that.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Dina and the brother-in-law and all that.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: And then I just think she went, I don't want
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: this airing.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: And she filed a lawsuit to suppress it. Yes. And
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: I– I always felt really bad with Brandy for that
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: too because the thing with Brandy, it's like they hire
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: her on purpose to be sloppy and messy and get drunk.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: Like that's why she gets hired. And she knows that.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: That's why she is on that show. They don't hire
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: her to be sober. So she's probably there knocking back
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: the wine, going, I'm going to do my job. Let me,
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: you know, be inappropriate. Remember when she slapped Lisa Vanderpump
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: on the face and threw wine at Eileen? Like that's
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: why they have her on these shows. So she's just
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: doing her job. And then I think she got completely
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: screwed over after. And I– Hung out with her one
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: night at, it was like a, it was bizarre. It
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: was this Beverly Hills Plastic Surgery Center and it was
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: an interesting group.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was invited to it but I couldn't go.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: I think I asked you to come. I was like, Heather,
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: are you coming to this?
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: Well, it was a pretty fun night actually because I
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: was hanging out with Brandy and Phaedra all night.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: No, I wanted to go but I couldn't, yeah.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I talked to her about it and she, yeah,
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: she kind of felt the same and she was going
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: through a rough patch with it all.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Well, somebody said, somebody wrote me, who's a therapist, psychiatrist.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: So this is their theory, not mine. Could it be
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: that Caroline Manzo might have struggled with her own sexuality
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: throughout her life and there was something that was triggering? Now,
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: she says, no, the triggering was because she was a
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: victim as a child. But I don't know.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: Well, she's, I mean, look at that book cover. I mean,
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: come on. Yeah, I think there's probably something to that theory.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, remember when Bronwyn joined Housewives of OC, she
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: was kissing Tamara, I think. They got drunk and were
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: groping each other's titties.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, all over.
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: And then it was like, oh, she looked like she
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: enjoyed that a little too much. And the next season
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: she was like, I'm a lesbian now.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Well, speaking of New York, we do have
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: a real lesbian and her girlfriend. We have the Jenna Lyons.
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: But she's still not showing the girlfriend, which.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Was another annoying- I didn't understand the obsession with the
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Jenna Lyons from New York, but- Oh my God. People
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: are obsessed.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: The most, I actually think she's the worst. Okay, Roni
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: is the worst housewife show. Roni reboot, obviously not the original.
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: Jenna Lyons is the, I think is the worst housewife ever.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, she was too scared to give an opinion.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: I felt like she just sat in the corner like,
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: with her teeth chattering or something, like, terrified. Like, she
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: reminds me of, like, a shaking chihuahua. That's why I actually.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Like, she was too scared to... Okay, I'm going to
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: make a prediction.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: I think you're going to eat your words.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: Do you think she's going to bring it season two?
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: No, I think this is going to be a good
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: season now. I think they got their feet wet. I
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: think it's going to be... They're going to bring it
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: because they're going to want it to be a hit.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: The trailer was so bad.
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: The trailer was horrible.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if I saw the trailer.
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: It was bad.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Well, let's move on. Okay. So Denise Richards has her show.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: We've talked about that. I can't wait to see that
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: because I did not realize that you said one daughter
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: is super Christian.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: And the other one is on OnlyFans. Yes.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: So she has two daughters, Sammy and Lola. Sammy's on OnlyFans,
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: you know, doing it. I mean, I don't know how
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: much she's doing on there. I think she... misleads people
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: with the post. I think she makes it look like
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: you're going to see porn and then you get there
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: and it's just like, oops, I'm in a hand bra,
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: you know, like a bait and switch. But then the
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: other daughter, Lola, works a regular job. I think she
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: works at a cafe or something. She's super Christian. She
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: posts about Jesus all the time. She looks like very wholesome.
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: So I think that'll be an interesting dynamic. Like, the
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: Christian daughter and the OnlyFans daughter and their family. And,
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: you know, Denise is very entertaining.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: When Denise and Charlie Sheen's daughter went right from high
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: school to OnlyFans to make a living, I was just
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: a little bit like, look, I know you can make
• 55:42
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• 55:44
  Speaker 2: and men can make money on this. However, I was
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: like a little heartbroken because I'm like, you know, not
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: only are you attractive, but you come from this incredible
• 55:53
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• 55:57
  Speaker 2: dad is Charlie Sheen, your mom is like, you don't
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: want to act at all? You just don't want to
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: like take an acting class or what? But then, but then, like,
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: maybe it's just that she doesn't want to maybe, maybe
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: some people just like that they could just stay in
• 56:13
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• 56:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, if you can turn 18, do
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: OnlyFans for a few years, and you're not even like,
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: I don't think she's doing porn on there. I literally
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: think I think the most you would see is topless.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: Which is like a big deal. Okay, topless. And then
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: you can make enough money to like invest in real estate.
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: And then so, you know, do a few topless selfies
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: for a few years and then buy a couple homes
• 56:38
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• 56:41
  Speaker 4: I get the criticism for OnlyFans, right? But I just
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: think like it's a fucking tough economy. It's hard to
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: make it out here. If you can make a few
• 56:49
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• 56:53
  Speaker 2: This girl, I saw like her TikTok and she's just
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: like a cute girl or whatever and she's in what
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: looks to be like a nice modern home, two-story, and
• 57:01
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• 57:06
  Speaker 2: paid for or whatever. It's like– yeah, like exactly. If
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: people are willing to pay for it and that you
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: want to do that. But I mean I do think–
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: I do think you have to be really okay that
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: no matter what, that it will never– I mean, I
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: wouldn't want my child to do it.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: I just feel like someone, it might affect you later.
• 57:31
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• 57:35
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• 57:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, it shouldn't, but.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: Look, I think it depends to what the level that
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: you're doing it as well. I mean, if you're on
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: there showing your butthole and like hardcore stuff and then
• 57:47
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• 57:49
  Speaker 4: and then 15 years later, people can Google your butthole.
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: Like maybe that's not great, but.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: It's just being like sexy and like... Yeah. Having some
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: assistant act like you do to talk to the people, right?
• 58:00
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• 58:04
  Speaker 4: companies and stuff. And what they do is... say you
• 58:08
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• 58:11
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• 58:14
  Speaker 4: on OnlyFans now. There's some interest in me. Usually what
• 58:16
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• 58:19
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• 58:23
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• 58:26
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• 58:29
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• 58:32
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• 58:36
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• 58:39
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• 58:41
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• 58:43
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• 58:46
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• 58:48
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• 58:50
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• 58:52
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• 58:55
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• 58:58
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• 59:01
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• 59:04
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• 59:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I think we figured that out, but
• 59:08
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• 59:10
  Speaker 2: do you think eventually they probably don't appreciate that, that
• 59:14
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• 59:19
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• 59:21
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• 59:25
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• 59:27
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• 59:29
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• 59:31
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• 59:33
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• 59:37
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• 59:41
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• 59:44
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• 59:46
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• 59:48
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• 59:50
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• 59:53
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• 59:56
  Speaker 4: on OnlyFans, it's better to not give it all away
• 59:59
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• 1:00:01
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• 1:00:04
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• 1:00:09
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• 1:00:11
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• 1:00:13
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• 1:00:14
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• 1:00:17
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• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: I know that they've come to me and asked me
• 1:00:22
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• 1:00:26
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• 1:00:29
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• 1:00:35
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• 1:00:36
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• 1:00:39
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• 1:00:43
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• 1:00:46
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• 1:00:47
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• 1:00:50
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• 1:00:53
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• 1:00:56
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• 1:01:00
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• 1:01:02
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• 1:01:06
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• 1:01:09
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• 1:01:11
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• 1:01:16
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• 1:01:17
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• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: think people are doing stuff on there, but it's pretty
• 1:01:23
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• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I wonder if it's like, it's just interesting
• 1:01:30
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• 1:01:33
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• 1:01:36
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• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to do a reality show if I
• 1:01:38
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• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: I think she probably made a lot of money. right
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: off the top which is another thing that happens especially
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: if you're a celebrity coming like you get a rush
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: of subscribers and then they leave really quickly so that's
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: why a lot of people they join OnlyFans and they're
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: like you know what I'm just gonna do like lingerie
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna do anything hardcore and they get all
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: those subscribers and then people go well you're gonna show
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: more I'm gonna unsubscribe so then you have to like
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: up the ante to keep making money on there so
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: i think she probably made a shit ton of money
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: in like her first three months maybe and then it
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: would have like gone off a cliff and now she's
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: doing a reality show again right.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: Where she started yeah remember she had that reality yes.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: It's complicated denise richards it's complicated.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Yes and she'd like a pig and all that stuff
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: it was pretty classic yeah.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: There was a scene in that it was so staged
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: but it was all about how like she was getting
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: written about in the tabloids. So she like storms in
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: with a camera crew to confront like the editor of
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: Star Magazine. Like, you better stop writing about me. This
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: is affecting my kids. And they did a whole thing.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: It was so fake, but I love it.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I always love it when a reality star
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: is like, Heather Dubrow said it too, like in her show,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: you know, she was like, this was affecting my children.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: And she meant like rumors about infidelity or whatever. And
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: I said it on the show earlier, but I don't
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: believe that any 20 something called their friend in college
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: and was like, hi, I was on this website. And
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: it's like, are your parents getting divorced? Like, there's no way. Yeah.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: But I also think you chose to go on a
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: reality show about your life. You've literally talked about getting
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: divorced and all this other stuff. You've talked about the
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: issues you had with your kids. So if something then
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: comes out that's not on the show, yeah, it's still
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: a reality show. You should talk about that. It's affecting
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: your life, but like, come on, there's no privacy in
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: reality show. You chose to do it. You chose to
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: put your kids all on camera and have everybody scrutinize
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: how they've grown up. If they are respectful, if they're attractive,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: like that's what you did.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: You know what you signed up for.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Um, okay. What do you think is happening with New Jersey?
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: Oh my God. I keep going back and forth. Uh,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: But I was saying before I loved last season. I
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: thought it was like Game of Thrones. They were all
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: fighting for their, you know, to be the queen. And
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: my predictions are I think they're going to get rid
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: of Margaret. And I love Margaret, by the way. I'm
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: not a tree hugger. I'm team Margaret. But I think
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: they'll get rid of Margaret. I think they'll get rid
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: of Jennifer Aiden. I think they'll get rid of Teresa.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: And I even think Rachel, they– I don't know. I
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: think they'll keep Dolores and Danielle Cabral.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Okay. I have a new prediction. Okay. I think it
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: will go away. They'll use the girls in other capacities,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: whether it's the girls' trips or going on Dorinda's show
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: or whatever. Yeah. And they'll find some other city that
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: kind of fits the original vibe of Jersey. With like
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: real relatives, real deep and like a little younger like
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: it was when they started. They started in like their
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: mid to late 30s. And they'll just try to find
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: some groups like they're kind of doing with like the
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Hulu girls of the Mormon wives. Oh, yeah. Like I
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: think just find a whole another generation that's willing to
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: like put it out there. Yeah. And because a younger
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: generation is going to be like, well, it won't happen
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: to me. You know, you always think, you know, I
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: won't get divorced. Oh, I'll make sure that, you know,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: my secrets aren't shared at all. Like, you know, speaking
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: of like sharing secrets, Gina from original OG was saying
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: in an interview, she was like, You know, I tried
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: to tell, you know, I tried to tell Tamara, you know,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: remember when Tamara threw the wine on her?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: She was like, you're getting involved in my marriage and
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: you're talking to Simon.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: And the whole thing I was trying to do was
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: trying to tell Tamara, like, if you you don't want
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: to bring up this ugliness and everything on TV, because
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: then he might lose his three hundred thousand dollar a
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: year job. And you still want him to pay you support.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: So think about that. That's all I'm saying. She's like,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: I wasn't necessarily on Simon's side. I was just trying
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: to say like the same thing that she said to
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Gina Kirshen.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: Kirshen Heiner.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: She was like, you know, if you bring up the
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: ugliness of this relationship, it can really affect him ever
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: getting another job like in private, in the private sector.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: And Gina Kay regrets it now. I think she's admitted that.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: I think she said that she wishes that it hadn't
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: been so public. Because now they have worked things out
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: and they have a really good co-parenting and he took
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: responsibility and they're in a really good place. And I
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: think she did say that it affected him getting work
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: and everything.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: I think he got fired from that right away. And yeah,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: so as I say, and then she was like, and
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: then Shannon Bedore didn't like me because I went up
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: to Shannon because I had said Shannon Bedore shouldn't say
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: on the show that she hasn't had sex with David
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Bedore for a year. And then it was like, well,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: that's why people love her because she is so honest
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: about her misery.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: The reason people love Shannon Bedore is because her life sucks.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: Well, it feels like she is her own worst enemy.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, not her life, but women that are watching
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: this show, nothing makes someone get more excited than when
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: their girlfriend calls them and goes, guess who's getting divorced?
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: I'm really sad to say it. We're awful people, especially
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: people that are like Gen X women like Karen's. They
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: are mean and jealous. And so they they don't I mean,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: they say they want to see people strive, whatever. But
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: so the fact that she was always so honest about
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: her drama, my husband's cheating. I don't have he doesn't
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: want to have sex with me. Now I have this
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: new boyfriend. He doesn't want to spend the night. He'll
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: never have enough money to take care of me. You know,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: we fight, like it's just, now he's suing her. Like
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: all of it is true. It is her life. It's
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: why she makes for great TV because she never hides anything.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: She takes off her shirt when she's overweight. You know,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: it's like, it's amazing. But also it's going to be
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: hard to have a real relationship. What guy? I mean,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: that's why Ramona, she had to like, the only reason
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: she found another boyfriend is because they fired her. Like
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: she could, nobody wanted to date Ramona that was of
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: any substance.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: Shannon, I think when the show ends for Shannon, which
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: it will at some point. I mean, I thought this
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: would be her last season. Now I'm watching it and
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: she's actually having a really good, I'm like, oh, I
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: think she's probably got a couple more seasons, you know.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: She's sort of like the queen of the show right now.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: But I think when it ends for her, she really
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: needs to like probably get a therapist or something and
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: be like, all right, I'm done with my time on
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: television and fame stuff and reality TV. And now I'm
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: going to lead a real life and try and meet
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: someone like Ramona did.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: I don't think she ever wants to give up the show.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: Of course not. But when she gets fired. I think...
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: she'll get fired eventually. I mean, even Tamara, I mean,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: they brought her back because it tanked without it, but
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: everyone gets fired.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: If you're going to do a live show and tap
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: dance and stuff. You love it. They love the fandom.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: She probably always secretly wanted to be an actress because
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: that was the only thing that you could do. She
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: probably thought, oh, I could be on Friends but never
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: pursued it. And then here comes this great opportunity dropped
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: in your lap where people are literally following you around
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: with a camera hanging on your every word. It's really
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: going to be really hard to ever give that up,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: money or not.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: She might do a podcast after. Yeah. When she gets fired.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: I'm sure. But those are not really working out the
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: way they were. So we'll see what happens. Okay. So
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: it seems that the only agents that are making money
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: are ones that are doing huge podcast deals for people.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: And the Kelsey brothers, Travis and Jason, are getting a
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: $ 100 million deal through Wondery and Amazon to have their
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: podcast for a year or two.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Taylor.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: Um, I mean, that's all thanks to Taylor Swift because,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: you know, no one even knew that. I mean, look, whatever.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: I'm sure some people knew that he had a podcast before,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: but I feel like really it started going viral because
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: when he got linked to Taylor, he was always dropped
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: these little crumbs in there of things that were going
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: on with them. And then I think everyone was tuning
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: in to, to listen to what they had to say,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: the Taylor stuff, and it's just blown it up. And
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: now he has a hundred million dollar deal.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Like, well, I think maybe she put eyes on it,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: but You know, they do talk about sports. Yeah. They
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: are launching this new thing right at the beginning of
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: football season. So they can talk about sports. They have
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: the brotherly connection. They're likable.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: I'm sure it's a good show, but I just mean, like,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: without Taylor, they would never have been getting off at
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: $ 100 million. Like, they would have done well. I'm sure
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: it would have been successful. But, you know.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, it all just comes down to, we believe
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: enough people will be listening that we can make these
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: ad dollars and, like.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: You know, so.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: take your money now and, and, and go for it. And,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: but you know, and being that they're brothers, then they don't,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: you know, they don't really need guests. They can always
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: just do it. And they have that built-in chemistry. So yeah.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, Travis is, he's pretty thirsty because he had
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: a reality show before Taylor. So he had a dating
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: show and everything. So, you know, I think he, I
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: think he and Taylor are both extremely strategic in everything
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: that they put out there.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: Do you think they're getting married or not?
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: Do I think they're getting married?
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: It seems like a good business arrangement for now. I
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: think Taylor does things for the image. I think she
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: puts her career first above everything, including this relationship. So
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: I think they'll get married if she... thinks that it
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: will continue to help her, but she might not want
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: to get married because she might be like, you know what,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: I need another breakup for my next album. Or maybe
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: where she wants to take it now she's getting older,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: she will want to get married and she'll be like,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: you know what, I can divorce him in a few
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: years and then do my divorce album. I really think
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: that's how she thinks. I think she, everything for her
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: is pure strategy. I don't even, I don't look at
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: her as like a normal person. I know this like
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: a Weird hot take, but I just think she's like
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: kind of like a psychopath or something. I don't know.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: I think she's like a diagnosable. Like I don't think
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: she's normal. A little bit like Bethany Frankel. Like I
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: just think there's certain people that have something wrong with
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: them and it's just all about. you know, the media
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: and making money. And that's all they care about.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: Okay. That was pretty good. And speaking of Bethany Franco,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: what do you think? She had her chicken salad summer.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: And what do you think's going on with her? Broke
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: up with the boyfriend.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: She's a fiance. You know what I was noticing about
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: her page recently? I remember when, and I think she
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: thought this out. I think she had this planned out
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: a lot. Um, when she first started doing the beauty
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: reviews and everything on there, she would really make a
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: big deal about this isn't sponsored. It's just me like
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: organically and every post she does a sponsored, like they're
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: all brand collaborations, but at the beginning she. really made
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: a big deal about how it's just my true opinion because,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm the truth teller. I keep it real.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: Everyone else is a liar except me.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: But that's what was so smart about it. She did that.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: And then pivoted into those.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: And then would send those to the company and be like,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: do you want to do a collab? I have, you know,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: 2 million views on this. And bring it on because
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about it anymore unless you
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: do bring the money. I think it was kind of genius.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: Of course. I mean, she's amazing the way that.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: And people that want to be influencers, even if you
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: have 300 people following you, you should follow her plan. Yeah.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: And if you really have products that you like. You know,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: then you should do it and tag them and see
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: if they won't come at you.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: But I think now if the check's big enough, she
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: doesn't have to like it. She'll do it.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: I don't think, yeah.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: And I am so curious about how much money she's
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: making in general. I wonder if it's more than she
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: was making on reality TV or in real estate. Because like,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: if you're like a high level influencer, you can get
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: a lot of money. I mean, even in back in Australia,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: which is a small market, I know people that would
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: get off of, you know, a reality show, Bachelor Married
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: at First Sight or whatever. And they could do some,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: you know, 10K, 20K, 25K, and they're just like small.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: Bethany with her thing.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: For like a one story. Yeah.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: For like, yeah.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: A little video. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: So with her ads, which she has so much engagement,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: like she'd be, and she does so many of those posts.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: Like she's doing like multiple ones a day.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's basically all she does. So it's like, no,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's, yeah, I think she tried all those things,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: you know, she was going to do the reality reckoning,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: kind of abandoned that. She was doing the Be Strong event.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what happened to that?
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: She was going to have all these shows.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: The big shot, the big shot with Bethany.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's going to have these shows where like, I'm
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: going to show you how to be an entrepreneur. If
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: she had a podcast like that, didn't do that, then
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: she was like, okay, now I'm going to talk about
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: Real Housewives. Okay, now I'm not talking about Real Housewives.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: Now I'm going to talk about the divorce. Well, now
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: I'm going to like be sued or who knows what.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: Stop that. But she, you know, look, I would not
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: be surprised if, you know, in a couple years or less,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: she's back doing some type of TV.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: Oh, she's always changing and pivoting.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: Well, she's trying to be a YouTuber as well. She
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: was having them all follow around and do YouTubing to
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: enhance her influencing stuff. So, yeah, she does it all.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: Can you still get her products, though? Do you see them?
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: We need to see her interact with people. What products?
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: The bologna?
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the popcorn. Because one thing that's been really fun
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: for me, someone that's a fan of pop culture, moving
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: to America... I can go to the supermarket and I
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: can see like celebrity branded products. I'm like, there's the
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: Cardi B whip shots. Like, and you know, I was
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  Speaker 4: searching the aisles for Delola the other day. I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I need to try this Delola.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That she pretends to drink and I couldn't find it.
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  Speaker 2: JLo's thing.
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  Speaker 4: I was distraught. But I haven't seen any skinny girl.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know if skinny girls around, you know,
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  Speaker 2: she sold it. And then there was always talk of,
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  Speaker 2: did she really get a hundred million when she was
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  Speaker 2: on Forbes? Was that exaggerated? Like what? Look, she's really,
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  Speaker 2: really wealthy. She has a fabulous life and she probably
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  Speaker 2: makes a lot of money and never has to worry
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  Speaker 2: about money again. And very privileged and all that kind
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  Speaker 2: of stuff. But yeah, I mean, when she, when it's
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  Speaker 2: fun is because I had Luann on is like when
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  Speaker 2: she would be with people going back and forth. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's what we would love to see if she
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  Speaker 2: went on. But, You know, now it's been so long,
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  Speaker 2: I think some of the other women would be almost
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  Speaker 2: scared to like be on a camera with her because
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  Speaker 2: she would just probably go for the juggler like in
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  Speaker 2: a second. I don't think it would be. I just
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  Speaker 2: feel like all that stuff has had its time.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I remember she was trying to do her own
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  Speaker 4: reality show called like Power about like strong women in
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  Speaker 4: New York. And then she said that the Real Housewives
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  Speaker 4: of New York City copied her concept.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't it about people, women in Connecticut or something?
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  Speaker 4: That was a different, I think she was trying to
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  Speaker 4: do that. And then she tried to do one. I
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  Speaker 4: think the one in Connecticut she was going to be on.
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  Speaker 4: And then I think there was one in New York
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  Speaker 4: called Pow Her. And it was meant to be like strong, strong,
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  Speaker 4: successful women in New York. And then when the New
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  Speaker 4: York Housewives reboot came out, she was like, they copied
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  Speaker 4: my idea. It's like, I don't think the Roni copied you,
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  Speaker 4: but okay.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was the other thing is that
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  Speaker 2: she tried to sell a bunch of shows and none went.
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  Speaker 2: And then she just kind of had a moment where
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  Speaker 2: she snapped where she was like, I'm blowing up the bridge.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm blowing up the Bravo Bridge.
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  Speaker 4: Now she's over it. She's forgot that she even did that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: She'll probably see Andy out at Craig's or something and
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  Speaker 4: be like, hey, like nothing happened.
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