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Chuck & Buck 3-5 Hour 3: Check Yes or No- trade edition, Is Dan the man? and NFL news and notes. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: the morning Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ r
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Speaker 1: f M. It is time to play check yes or
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Speaker 1: new right here on the radio program. And we've been
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Speaker 1: doing this all week long an NFL free agency preview,
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Speaker 1: but we're getting a little creative as the week progresses,
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Speaker 1: and today it's not really an NFL free agency preview.
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Speaker 1: This is more of a free agency is not working
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Speaker 1: for us?
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Speaker 3: Let's make a trade?
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Speaker 1: Oh all right, so you're gonna check yes or no
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Speaker 1: on some trade possibilities for your world champion Seattle Seahawks.
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Speaker 1: Let's start with Max Crosby. That's the name being tossed
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Speaker 1: about the most. We, of course, have talked about this
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Speaker 1: possibility throughout the course of the week. I was just
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Speaker 1: reading articles yesterday saying John Schneider is obsessed with getting
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Speaker 1: Max Cross all right, so this is something that's been
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Speaker 1: going on for years. He's kind of dug in on
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Speaker 1: it now. Whether or not that's true, I have no idea.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how far entrenched within the mindset of
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Speaker 1: John Schneider this particular rumor Bonger is. But this suggestion
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Speaker 1: was that John Schneider's been hot after Max Crosby. He
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Speaker 1: hasn't been available. Even when he wasn't made available, he
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Speaker 1: was hot after him. Now it looks like he is available,
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Speaker 1: and so is there a possibility here? Greg Bell told
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Speaker 1: us an hour ago, we just don't have the draft capital.
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Speaker 1: I don't agree with that, because, yeah, this year you don't.
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Speaker 1: But the Raiders are in a bit of a rebuilding
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Speaker 1: mode at this point, so you can go this year's first,
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Speaker 1: next year's first. You can even throw a player into
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Speaker 1: the mix. Yesterday I threw in Drew Locke. So I'll
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Speaker 1: go ahead and throw him in here again today. So
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Speaker 1: it's the next year's first, this year's first, Drew Locke.
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Speaker 3: Check yes or no? Ashley on a trade for Max
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Speaker 3: Crosby right there.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say yes. And my opinion has pretty
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Speaker 4: much stayed the same. I think that he would be
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Speaker 4: a great addition to the team.
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Speaker 2: I think.
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Speaker 4: I mean, if you're giving up a thirty the pick
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Speaker 4: number thirty two this year and what I think would
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Speaker 4: be pick number thirty two next year for Max Crosby,
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Speaker 4: and then yes, I me up for that.
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Speaker 1: Well, if you're thinking we're going to win back to
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Speaker 1: back world titles, then who even cares?
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Speaker 3: You know?
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Speaker 5: If yeah, yeah, I will give him the next ye
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Speaker 5: first round pick.
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, we'll.
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Speaker 2: Hang on to that one. But yeah, I think, I mean,
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Speaker 2: I think that he's well worth it.
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Speaker 4: That The interesting thing, of course, or what I would
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Speaker 4: take away from what Greg said though, was would the
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Speaker 4: Raiders be interested in picks that low or high?
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Speaker 2: I guess, well, it just depends.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we don't know whatever anybody else is. If
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Speaker 1: nobody else is offering two first rounders, then.
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Speaker 2: Then you win.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's not there's not some Max Crosby traded
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Speaker 1: playbook out there that suggests it's going to take two
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Speaker 1: first rounders.
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Speaker 3: We don't know what it's going to take.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the game that we're playing is if that's what
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Speaker 1: it takes, two first rounders, and we're Seahawks are the
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Speaker 1: team that's offering it. Plus we can throw in a
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Speaker 1: player and whether that's Drew Locke or somebody else, young
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Speaker 1: controllable player that was a recent draft pick. Do you
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Speaker 1: check yes or no on Max Crosby for that package?
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Speaker 1: I check yes, But I mean, to me, it's that guy.
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Speaker 3: He's good.
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Speaker 5: I mean, now he's getting up there and he's had
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Speaker 5: some injuries, but then again, who doesn't have injuries, Especially
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Speaker 5: if they played just about every single snap on the
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Speaker 5: defensive side of the ball, you're gonna have some. So
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Speaker 5: I just think that he brings something that is as
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Speaker 5: spectacular as a Seahawks defense was last season that if
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Speaker 5: there was a place that they lacked, it was on
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Speaker 5: the edge. And I think that if you add this guy, oh,
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Speaker 5: I mean, there's already a fear factor of every single
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Speaker 5: team in the NFL. They recognize now that Mike McDonald
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Speaker 5: and his defense is something to be worried about you
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Speaker 5: add this, it adds a different thing to it. So
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Speaker 5: to me, I would do it. I think that, yeah,
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Speaker 5: you're giving up for sure the last pick in this
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Speaker 5: draft coming up, and it's going to be a later
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Speaker 5: pick at least in the next one. If to me,
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Speaker 5: the part that you're just kind of throwing there like
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Speaker 5: a Drew Lock, that almost makes perfect sense. I mean,
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Speaker 5: I know that the Seahawks like Drew Lock. In case,
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Speaker 5: you know, break glass, Sam Donald goes down. You got
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Speaker 5: somebody that you feel capable of going out there and
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Speaker 5: winning a ball game for you, not just losing it,
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Speaker 5: not just not losing it, but he could actually win
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Speaker 5: a ball game for you.
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Speaker 3: I think that that is good.
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Speaker 5: But I think if you dangle that in front of
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Speaker 5: the Raiders with the two first round picks, now they
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Speaker 5: can go and they have somebody that has kind of
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Speaker 5: been there, done that went through some of the learning
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Speaker 5: curve of being a franchise quarterback that kind of fell
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Speaker 5: in his face. If they go out and draft Mendoza,
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Speaker 5: now all of a sudden, you have somebody that kind
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Speaker 5: of understands, hey, don't do this, don't step in this pitfall.
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Speaker 5: I did that do this, and so to me, it
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Speaker 5: seems like a decent trade package, and I think that
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Speaker 5: if you're the Seahawks, yes, I most certainly am making
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Speaker 5: that one.
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Speaker 3: I Number one, look how well the Jamal Adams trade
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Speaker 3: worked off what.
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Speaker 2: That stuff dreams are made.
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Speaker 1: But again that was again that was two first round
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Speaker 1: picks spread over two years, a third round pick and
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Speaker 1: a player I played, Bradley McDougal. Not a great player,
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Speaker 1: but a player, and the Seahawks got fourth round and
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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams in return. And I know, I know that
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Speaker 1: didn't work. I mean it's terrible, But the point, the
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Speaker 1: point I'm making is you have.
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Speaker 3: That kind of draft capital.
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Speaker 1: I mean, well, sure we shouldn't have given that up
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Speaker 1: for Jamal Adams, but you can create even with what
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Speaker 1: you have this year, with only four picks, you can
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Speaker 1: create that package for Jamal, for Max Crosby. You know, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's very doable. Even though you only have four picks
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Speaker 1: and you're picking last in the first round.
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Speaker 3: It's very doable.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're so comfortably of your future for now, but
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Speaker 5: really the future is unknown. You don't know what your
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Speaker 5: first round pick at thirty two would be. Like, I
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Speaker 5: can guarantee that person you get at thirty two is
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Speaker 5: not going to be Max Crosby this season, okay, And
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Speaker 5: so then you combine that kid with the kid that
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Speaker 5: you would get wherever you draft next year. The chances
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Speaker 5: are those two players are not going to help you
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Speaker 5: in the next two to three years the way that
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Speaker 5: Max Crosby would now or is there a real good
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Speaker 5: chance that those two first round picks could help you
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Speaker 5: in three, four, five years from now?
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Speaker 3: Yes, but that is I don't.
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Speaker 5: Think you scoff in the face of a championship window,
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Speaker 5: especially one that maybe showed up a year before most
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Speaker 5: people thought it would.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I say, check yes on it. And it's not
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Speaker 1: that this is what I would do, this is what
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Speaker 1: I'd be interested in doing. I still think our conversation yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Maybe Trey Hendrickson makes even more sense, and you don't
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Speaker 1: have to give up the trade compensation. But it doesn't
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Speaker 1: sound like the rumor mill doesn't suggest that John Schneider's
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Speaker 1: head over heels in love with Trey Hendrickson. The rumor
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Speaker 1: mill suggests that he is head over heels in love
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Speaker 1: with adding Max Crosby to this team.
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Speaker 3: So we shall see.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's move to the next one. The Philadelphia
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Speaker 1: Eagles are claiming that AJ Brown is not even available,
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Speaker 1: and yet AJ Brown's available, and it's really right. They're
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Speaker 1: claiming that AJ Brown's value we're going to.
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Speaker 3: Start the bidding.
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Speaker 1: If we do start the bidding at two first rounders,
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Speaker 1: you're not getting two first rounders for AJ Brown thirty
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Speaker 1: years old and angry and difficult and everything else. And
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Speaker 1: so it might just be as the value drops. Is
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Speaker 1: there a point in the process where the value might
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Speaker 1: drop so much He's at thirty two million dollars, that's
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Speaker 1: what he's gonna make this year. Is there a point
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Speaker 1: that the Seahawks would get in on AJ Brown if
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Speaker 1: his value did drop? Considering that Rashisha heat just looks
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Speaker 1: like he's gonna be leaving the nest, Cooper Cup's probably
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Speaker 1: gonna play for one more year. Would you check yes
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Speaker 1: or no on AJ Brown if the value drops far
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Speaker 1: enough that it makes sense even if it's just your
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Speaker 1: first rounder, thirty second and overall.
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Speaker 3: For AJ Brown? Yeah, I think I would. I mean
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Speaker 3: I don't.
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Speaker 5: I think that you can still upgrade, especially if Rashid
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Speaker 5: s she Heed's out and we don't know for sure
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Speaker 5: about Tory Horton's.
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Speaker 3: Hell twenty eight, by the way, not thirty I think.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's it just seems to me like that.
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Speaker 3: I don't.
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Speaker 5: I don't look at his down year as as much
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Speaker 5: of an indictment on him as the dysfunction in which
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Speaker 5: it felt like the Philadelphia Eagles were in, right, I mean,
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Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts and the Tush push and Saquon Barkley and
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Speaker 5: just everything about this last season. They did not They
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Speaker 5: did not come back very well after winning a Super Bowl,
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Speaker 5: And so I give a little bit more to that, Like,
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Speaker 5: it just felt dysfunctional, and you might get a resurgent
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Speaker 5: aj Brown and if that's the case, boil boy somebody
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Speaker 5: opposite of Jackson Smith and Jigba like that. Yeah, I'd
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Speaker 5: pull the trigger on that if the conversation made sense.
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Speaker 5: One first rounder, I don't know.
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Speaker 4: Thirty two million dollars seems like a lot for the
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Speaker 4: what was he the sixteenth or nineteenth best wide receiver
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Speaker 4: in the NFL last year.
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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna say.
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Speaker 3: No, I'm gonna say no. Yeah, I'm saying no. I don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't really want to add at thirty two million
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Speaker 1: dollars a year, A player who was given the money
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Speaker 1: and given the targets and still wasn't happy. Yeah, still
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Speaker 1: something's bothering him. And so I mean we've had seasons
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Speaker 1: of seventy eight and sixty seven catches the last two
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Speaker 1: years and he has complained the entire time. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you've been given the money, you've been given the targets,
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Speaker 1: and you've been given the championship and you're still angry. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and you're still I mean difficult.
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Speaker 2: We just got rid of that with DK Metcalfe.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe and maybe if we knew behind the scenes,
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Speaker 1: maybe it is more Jalen Hurts than AJ Brown.
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Speaker 3: Maybe Jalen Hurts is the problem.
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Speaker 1: But you're certainly not the solution for what's ailing the
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles right now. Even if you do have the
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Speaker 1: voice of the locker room boy, the way that you're
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Speaker 1: using that voice is not effective.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to add that to this too, and
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Speaker 1: I don't want to pay thirty two million dollars for it.
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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna check no on AJ Brown. How about
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Speaker 1: best for a trade this offseason? Yeah, we don't have
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Speaker 1: any draft capital, sure, but if we have a running
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Speaker 1: back hole, we don't really like the fruit that's ripe
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Speaker 1: on the tree. The free agents there, maybe we want
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Speaker 1: to or excuse me, the fruit that's in the barrel.
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Speaker 1: The free agents there. Maybe we want to pick something
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Speaker 1: from the tree and we want.
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Speaker 3: The best apple possible. There is a formula, there is
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Speaker 3: a trade that you could put together to move up
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Speaker 3: into the.
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Speaker 1: Top ten and get Jeremiah Love. I mean, it would hurt,
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Speaker 1: it'd be a huge financial package. But just using the
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Speaker 1: NFL trade value chart, I mean, the Atlanta Falcons jumped
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Speaker 1: all the way up into the top ten once upon
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Speaker 1: it got time to get Julio Jones and that worked
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Speaker 1: out well for the player. They didn't win a championship
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Speaker 1: with him. But it's doable. And if you don't like
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Speaker 1: this draft, burn the damn draft. First rounder, third rounder,
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Speaker 1: you know next year's first rounder. Get up into the
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Speaker 1: top five, Get up into the top ten, maybe to
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Speaker 1: the Commanders at number six. Get up ahead of New
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Speaker 1: Orleans and Kansas City, who have been linked to the player.
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Speaker 1: Actually I think that's number seven. Get up to number
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Speaker 1: seven with the Commanders and grab the best running back
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Speaker 1: in this class and maybe the best graded out running
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Speaker 1: back since Adrian Peterson. Julian Yo, get Jeremiah Love, and
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Speaker 1: now we don't have to worry about when Zach Sharbonay
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Speaker 1: is gonna be healthy again.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, I don't know what you
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Speaker 5: have to do, but get You're gonna have to fill
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Speaker 5: that hole because I don't think Zach Charbonay.
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Speaker 3: Is gonna be ready for at the beginning of the season.
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Speaker 5: Now, are you okay with just saying we'll just find
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Speaker 5: a piece something that we feel like we can plug in.
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Speaker 5: That's a little bit more on the dime a dozen philosophy,
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Speaker 5: which I think is maybe getting taken out in the
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Speaker 5: wash a little bit. I think that there's a difference
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Speaker 5: between a guy like Love versus just you can take
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Speaker 5: a shot in the darket a sixth rounder and maybe
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Speaker 5: they's gonna be something special. This kid would be special.
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Speaker 5: I like, I like the idea of doing something now.
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Speaker 5: I mean it's I don't know what it is this
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Speaker 5: week coming back off vacation. I basically any good idea.
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Speaker 5: I'm like, yes, I love that.
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Speaker 3: I am. I don't know what it is, but yeah, sure, going.
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Speaker 1: To John pull just show up and say, I'll give
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Speaker 1: you all my picks this year for your seventh pick overall.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeremile, I want Ricky Williams.
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Speaker 1: Well, not the Ricky Williams who doesn't smoke dope, who
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Speaker 1: doesn't like dope more than football.
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Speaker 5: Again, it would have been a really good player. Yeah, well,
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Speaker 5: hard to find that guy. But just think about it.
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Speaker 5: If you were to have to package this year's first
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Speaker 5: round or let's say it's maybe whatever some picks next
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Speaker 5: year as well. I mean, are those guys going to
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Speaker 5: help you more at an important position where you can
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Speaker 5: get somebody young and inexpensive. They cost you a lot
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Speaker 5: as far as draft caps, you anything else. Yeah, I
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Speaker 5: mean for four four years or whatever you just could
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Speaker 5: that's kind of a reload for like, all right, we're
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Speaker 5: not just in the championship window. We're planning on kind
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Speaker 5: of keeping this bad boy open for the next four
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Speaker 5: or five years.
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Speaker 4: It's a very bold move, that's for sure. I would say, no,
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Speaker 4: I would rather pay Ken Walker fourteen and a half million.
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Speaker 2: Dollars, wowm all of our draft capital.
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Speaker 1: And it wouldn't have to be all, but it would
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Speaker 1: have to be a lot to get from thirty two
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Speaker 1: to seven. Yeah, let's say thirty two to seven. I mean,
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Speaker 1: by the draft chart, and I don't know how strictly
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Speaker 1: NFL teams use it, but it's a good point of reference.
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Speaker 1: That's this year's first rounder, next year's first rounder, and
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Speaker 1: a third rounder to get from thirty two to seven
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Speaker 1: according to the draft chart.
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Speaker 2: Oh that's not bad.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe, or maybe it's this year's.
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Speaker 1: First rounder, next year's first rounder, a third round pick,
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Speaker 1: and maybe you throw in Elijah Royo, who I do
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Speaker 1: have belief he's got a really bright future, but he
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Speaker 1: wasn't that productive this year on the way toward winning
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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl championship. He's only got one year burned
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Speaker 1: on his contract. He doesn't make much money. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if he'd be worth a second round pick, but
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Speaker 1: that might be an an additional third round pick value
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Speaker 1: that you're giving up. So there's a way to get
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Speaker 1: there now, whether or not you want to do it,
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Speaker 1: Probably not, Probably not, but I'm checking yes on this
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Speaker 1: mother bike. Yeah, because I'm envisioning. I would much rather
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Speaker 1: envision Jeremiah Love in a Seahawk uniform the throwback for
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Speaker 1: the next four years. Then I want to picture Elijah
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Speaker 1: Royal in a Seahawk uniform or whatever pick we might
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Speaker 1: get at the thirty second selection.
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Speaker 3: Overall, I say, go do it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah again him, go pull a Julio Jones, get up
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Speaker 1: from bottom of the draft to the near the top
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Speaker 1: of the draft and get the solution.
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Speaker 4: There are a lot of things that John Schneider could
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Speaker 4: do that wouldn't surprise me.
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Speaker 2: That would my job would draw.
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Speaker 1: It would surprise me more that if the team that's
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Speaker 1: in position to draft didn't, yeah, you know, then it
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Speaker 1: would that John would put together the package. It's farcical.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of a fantasy. Fine, but there
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Speaker 1: is a way to get there. You could get there
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Speaker 1: if you wanted to.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems it seems like a fancy because to me,
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Speaker 5: I mean it's I don't even I as much as
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Speaker 5: I like ken Walker, I don't know for sure, if
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Speaker 5: all things are equal, I'm I'm taking Jordan Love ten
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Speaker 5: out of ten times, Jeremiah Love ten out of ten
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Speaker 5: times for sure over ken Walker, not just even with
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Speaker 5: the fourteen million versus the.
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Speaker 3: Four immediately a better player.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's you just upgraded from the Super
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Speaker 5: Bowl MVP. That's a bold move. Yeah, but it basically
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Speaker 5: says I'm all in on that part of this draft. Well, Okay,
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Speaker 5: you have four picks at this point in this year's draft.
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Speaker 5: If you turn four picks into somehow even though you're
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Speaker 5: having to dip into next year's draft probably, But if
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Speaker 5: you can turn this year's draft, where you're looking at
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Speaker 5: four picks right now, into you'll go you bring that
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Speaker 5: guy home with you, that's a home run.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it won't take all four just so you know,
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Speaker 1: just to clarify, it wouldn't take all four of these selections.
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Speaker 1: But and I don't I know, John wouldn't give it up.
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Speaker 1: But there is a move there that you could package
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Speaker 1: something together, probably includes a pick from next year, maybe
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Speaker 1: a player that you could get that high. So you
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Speaker 1: know what, that's what you do when you already have
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Speaker 1: the best team in the NFL, that's the third youngest
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Speaker 1: team in cap space. You get to make bold, crazy
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Speaker 1: moves like that. You know, identify like, that's what I want.
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Speaker 1: How do we get it?
17:37
Speaker 3: Yeah?
17:38
Speaker 1: You know, be Logan Roy, this is what I want?
17:41
Speaker 1: How do we get it? Let's not work the other
17:43
Speaker 1: way around. Let's start with what we want and then
17:48
Speaker 1: figure out how what is it going to take to
17:50
Speaker 1: get it?
17:50
Speaker 3: And to me, man, I can I can picture him
17:53
Speaker 3: right now.
17:54
Speaker 2: I was thinking how much fun it would be to
17:55
Speaker 2: be John Schneider right now.
17:57
Speaker 1: Dude looks really good in a uniform too that year
17:59
Speaker 1: mind I love Yeah, so yeah. And then finally we'll
18:04
Speaker 1: just close with this one. What about taking advantage of
18:09
Speaker 1: the lack of value in a veteran running pack What
18:14
Speaker 1: if you looked at, say, eh, Josh Jacobs from the
18:17
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, twenty eight years old, still not coming
18:23
Speaker 1: off a very good year, halfway through a lucrative contract,
18:27
Speaker 1: but he's halfway through it, four year, forty eight million
18:30
Speaker 1: dollar deal from the Packers. You would just be on
18:33
Speaker 1: the hook for two years of that. You could certainly
18:36
Speaker 1: restructure it and probably wouldn't cost you more than a
18:41
Speaker 1: fourth rounder. I'd bet for somebody of that salary. Third
18:44
Speaker 1: fourth rounder. And now all of a sudden, you let
18:48
Speaker 1: Ken Walker walk and you kind of plug the hole
18:52
Speaker 1: with a guy you only have to commit, let's face it,
18:54
Speaker 1: one year or two for this upcoming season. You know,
18:59
Speaker 1: are we interested in something like that, like a veteran
19:02
Speaker 1: running back that steps in and is just as good
19:06
Speaker 1: and in some ways better, and it only cost you
19:09
Speaker 1: a later a Day.
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Speaker 3: Three draft pick in order to get him.
19:13
Speaker 5: I actually, to be honest, if ken Walker goes out
19:16
Speaker 5: the door, which I'm I'm presuming, I'm ninety five percent
19:19
Speaker 5: sure that's gonna happen, this is the route I think
19:21
Speaker 5: they're gonna go. I think they're gonna go out there
19:23
Speaker 5: and find something, you know, a algier or something right,
19:29
Speaker 5: and then another piece that's maybe a you know, a
19:31
Speaker 5: complimentary back to that. I think they're gonna come into
19:34
Speaker 5: training camp with the idea of you know, maybe one
19:38
Speaker 5: for sure guy Zach Charbonney when he's healthy. That's one
19:41
Speaker 5: guy that you're gonna be able to plug in there,
19:43
Speaker 5: and then maybe you have three other guys or four
19:45
Speaker 5: other guys that you're like, all right, we're gonna see
19:47
Speaker 5: which one of these guys wants to be the lightning
19:50
Speaker 5: to that thunder or whatever you want to say. I
19:52
Speaker 5: think that's the I think that's the mode that they're
19:54
Speaker 5: gonna go. I don't think they're gonna go spend big.
19:56
Speaker 5: I think you might go with some veteran guy that
19:58
Speaker 5: doesn't make a old ton. You're not gonna have to
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Speaker 5: invest a large amount in one year, or most certainly
20:03
Speaker 5: not even in multiple years. I mean, there's you know,
20:07
Speaker 5: Rashad Whitez. And there's guys out there that run the ball.
20:11
Speaker 5: What's that Rico do Doubtle? You know guys like that
20:15
Speaker 5: that I think are you know you can get those guys.
20:17
Speaker 5: You can get five of those guys for the price
20:19
Speaker 5: you're gonna have to pay for one ken Walker.
20:20
Speaker 3: Now, are they any of them as good as ken Walker? No?
20:23
Speaker 5: But could all of them collectively kind of contribute to
20:26
Speaker 5: something or whoever pops out of that group. I think
20:29
Speaker 5: you could go out there and get a couple guys
20:30
Speaker 5: and see what comes out in the experiment.
20:33
Speaker 1: Well, Jacobs would carry a big salary, you know you
20:36
Speaker 1: got that, but I don't think that he would cost
20:38
Speaker 1: much in a trade that I don't think would happen,
20:41
Speaker 1: especially coming off of it looks like last year he
20:45
Speaker 1: started his decline a little bit.
20:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was just looking at that too.
20:49
Speaker 4: But still averaging four yards of carry and he had
20:51
Speaker 4: thirteen touchdowns, so you know, I mean, he's still pretty
20:55
Speaker 4: I mean, he's still a consistent player.
20:57
Speaker 2: You're still getting right around.
20:58
Speaker 4: A thousand years from him, and and he only played
21:00
Speaker 4: in fifteen games last year. But he seems to be
21:03
Speaker 4: pretty durable, which is good and obviously necessary for a
21:08
Speaker 4: running back, so I would say, yeah, you can get
21:10
Speaker 4: a receiving threat too.
21:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, not a big one.
21:12
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go know, just because I
21:15
Speaker 1: think it's too much money, but I do believe something
21:19
Speaker 1: like that is certainly got to be on the table. Yeah,
21:21
Speaker 1: for a veteran player that you can throw a cheap
21:25
Speaker 1: late draft pick for that fills the hole. Because it
21:28
Speaker 1: looks like you're going to have a hole at running
21:30
Speaker 1: back and you're going to need a couple. You're going
21:31
Speaker 1: to probably get somebody through the draft, and you're probably
21:33
Speaker 1: going to get somebody through free agency or a trade,
21:37
Speaker 1: and so you know, poor and if and if running
21:41
Speaker 1: backs lose their value year to year as they age,
21:44
Speaker 1: then it shouldn't that market shouldn't cost all that much
21:48
Speaker 1: to you in terms of trade compensation. All right, Coming
21:50
Speaker 1: up next, something that we haven't discussed a lot as
21:53
Speaker 1: we ramp up toward the Mariners season, and that is
21:57
Speaker 1: Management Sports Radio ninety three point three K.
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Speaker 3: It's been pretty positive.
22:01
Speaker 1: I'd say, I think everybody's talking pretty positively about the
22:05
Speaker 1: Mariners locally nationally.
22:07
Speaker 3: It's nice.
22:09
Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like there's any disagreement that They're going to
22:12
Speaker 1: be not just good, but really damn good.
22:15
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah.
22:16
Speaker 5: I mean, I it is nice to recognize that there's
22:21
Speaker 5: been some good work done here. And now the guys,
22:25
Speaker 5: I mean, I went to a golf similar place, North
22:28
Speaker 5: Bend Golf Club in North Bend last night, and I
22:31
Speaker 5: was talking to some guys and one of them is like, so,
22:33
Speaker 5: the Mariage is gonna be good this year. I'm like,
22:35
Speaker 5: uh huh, yeah, they're gonna be really good. So we're sure,
22:39
Speaker 5: And I think he's more of this. I don't want
22:41
Speaker 5: to be burnt. I don't want to get my hopes up,
22:43
Speaker 5: and I'm like, well, the beauty of one hundred and
22:45
Speaker 5: sixty two games is typically the better teams find a way, right.
22:49
Speaker 5: I mean, you just you're gonna have some scuffles here
22:52
Speaker 5: and there. You're gonna have some pitchers get hit or
22:53
Speaker 5: hitters not be able to, you know, score some runs.
22:56
Speaker 5: But for the most part, over one sixty two, this
22:58
Speaker 5: lineup's gonna put up some numb This pitching staff's gonna
23:02
Speaker 5: get some outs. You're gonna win a bunch of ball games.
23:05
Speaker 5: I think you know what happens in the playoffs. You know,
23:08
Speaker 5: there's health involved, and you know, we kind of saw
23:11
Speaker 5: that last year. The guy that pitched the best the
23:13
Speaker 5: entire year wasn't really available in the playoffs and Brian
23:16
Speaker 5: wu So if you can get to the playoffs and
23:18
Speaker 5: be relatively healthy at your most important spots, this team
23:22
Speaker 5: has every chance of getting to the first World Series
23:25
Speaker 5: and at that point, shock the world beat whoever's on
23:27
Speaker 5: the other side of that thing. And I think they
23:29
Speaker 5: have a good chance this year. So yeah, things are
23:31
Speaker 5: looking good. People should be optimistic.
23:33
Speaker 1: Greatf the Dodgers, Yeah, yeah, well take my chances with him.
23:37
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and they go, I mean.
23:39
Speaker 1: And I mean, I think they're better on paper, but
23:43
Speaker 1: in a seven game series, bring it on, yep, for
23:46
Speaker 1: everything that's on the line, and we might end up
23:49
Speaker 1: with a better record. I mean, the Dodgers are going
23:52
Speaker 1: after this thing with the approach of we don't we
23:55
Speaker 1: know we're going to make the playoffs. If Blake Snell
23:58
Speaker 1: doesn't pitch this year, who cares. We have money to burn,
24:01
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I know we have a big investment. As
24:04
Speaker 1: long as he's good by September and October, that's all.
24:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll just give him the rest of the time.
24:08
Speaker 2: To recover.
24:09
Speaker 1: Nobody else can really operate that way, but the Dodgers can.
24:12
Speaker 1: So it doesn't look like they're out to shatter the
24:15
Speaker 1: eachy Row Mariners single season record for wins, and nobody's
24:20
Speaker 1: really projecting that for them, even though on paper they
24:22
Speaker 1: look like the best team in the game. But I'm
24:24
Speaker 1: starting to, you know, I'm creeping up toward one hundred
24:27
Speaker 1: wins for the Mariners. I'm in like the ninety six
24:29
Speaker 1: ninety eight range. That's how good that I think they are.
24:33
Speaker 1: So there's been a lot of positivity, and certainly we've
24:36
Speaker 1: talked about a lot of positive aspects about this team
24:39
Speaker 1: heading into the year and for several years. But I
24:43
Speaker 1: think maybe we could discuss a couple of weaknesses. I mean,
24:48
Speaker 1: it's not a it's not a team that you know,
24:51
Speaker 1: people are projecting to win one hundred and twenty games
24:54
Speaker 1: this year, and so we've talked very little about where
24:58
Speaker 1: the concerns for this ross might be. One has been
25:02
Speaker 1: defense that I've mapped out in the past. Another one
25:05
Speaker 1: is let's talk about it.
25:08
Speaker 3: Dan Wilson.
25:10
Speaker 1: I don't think he had a great year last year.
25:12
Speaker 1: I think he got better as the season went on.
25:15
Speaker 1: I think he was okay in the playoffs, but there
25:18
Speaker 1: were just some decisions that a lot of people were
25:20
Speaker 1: not happy with in the postseason, including in the game
25:25
Speaker 1: that ultimately decided your season. I think he's going to
25:29
Speaker 1: be even better this year than he was a year ago.
25:33
Speaker 3: But is it a concern?
25:35
Speaker 1: Is he a guy that knows how to press all
25:38
Speaker 1: the right buttons for a team to win a World Series?
25:42
Speaker 5: Well, I mean all the right buttons, no, no one is.
25:44
Speaker 5: Nobody's going to be you know, perfect. You gotta just
25:48
Speaker 5: you gotta trust your guys, and that means I mean,
25:52
Speaker 5: obviously you're not trusting your last, your worst dude in
25:56
Speaker 5: the bullpen, which, if you think about it, they made
25:58
Speaker 5: a move for what's his name, Caleb Ferguson, thinking that
26:01
Speaker 5: was gonna be one of your guys, and yet basically
26:05
Speaker 5: right towards the end of the season and in the playoffs,
26:07
Speaker 5: he was not missing a barrel. I mean, he wasn't
26:09
Speaker 5: a guy that was gonna be punching guys out, period,
26:11
Speaker 5: But he was getting hit hard, and then he wasn't
26:14
Speaker 5: getting any luck. Even when it wasn't hit hard, it
26:17
Speaker 5: found a hole and so he stopped using him. I mean,
26:20
Speaker 5: you have to. But you have to have more than
26:22
Speaker 5: just your closer and one set up guy. You can't
26:25
Speaker 5: have just Brashing Mounias, right, So they're gonna have to
26:27
Speaker 5: You're gonna have to use some other guys, and sometimes
26:29
Speaker 5: that's gonna come back and it's not gonna work, you know.
26:32
Speaker 5: I mean, it's to me, it's not a matter of
26:35
Speaker 5: that was not the right decision, because if it worked,
26:38
Speaker 5: people would say, hm, that was the right decision or
26:41
Speaker 5: evidently that was the right decision. Even if you were
26:43
Speaker 5: armchair quarterbacking it or armchair managing it and not agreeing
26:46
Speaker 5: with it at the time, then it would be like,
26:49
Speaker 5: well that worked and wow, we made it the World
26:50
Speaker 5: Series or whatever. So yeah, I mean, does he have
26:54
Speaker 5: things to learn? I think Dan Wilson would be the
26:56
Speaker 5: first to tell you that. You know, I'm still evolving
26:59
Speaker 5: this whole thing of how my managing style, my philosophy
27:02
Speaker 5: works with the information that I have and the coaches
27:06
Speaker 5: that I have at my disposal.
27:08
Speaker 3: Is it going to be perfect? No?
27:09
Speaker 5: Is it going to be a thing that this team's
27:13
Speaker 5: not going to win the division because of Dan Wilson.
27:17
Speaker 3: I don't think that there's any chance of that.
27:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there was definitely concerns and questions last
27:22
Speaker 4: year as we would come back from games and say.
27:24
Speaker 2: Like, well, why did he do that or what?
27:26
Speaker 4: Not just us, No, no, no, it wasn't just on
27:28
Speaker 4: the show and sol me.
27:29
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people that cover this team
27:32
Speaker 1: very closely that had a lot.
27:35
Speaker 2: More questions than what we had on this show. Yeah, no,
27:38
Speaker 2: and I can and I can understand that.
27:40
Speaker 4: I do think though, obviously knowing that it was his
27:42
Speaker 4: first full year as a manager, there's got to be
27:45
Speaker 4: some grace in some room for the new manager errors
27:49
Speaker 4: and as he's kind of finding his footing and finding
27:51
Speaker 4: his way. Now, if those same questions came up again
27:55
Speaker 4: this year, I would be very I mean, that's a
27:57
Speaker 4: big concern. So I do have hopes that he will
28:01
Speaker 4: make improvements in his decision making and in his timing
28:05
Speaker 4: and things like that as this season goes on.
28:08
Speaker 1: I mean, we didn't bring it up at spring training,
28:11
Speaker 1: and let's Fay said this season ended with should Bizardo
28:14
Speaker 1: have been in the game?
28:15
Speaker 2: Yeah?
28:16
Speaker 1: I mean that was the final postgame show of twenty
28:19
Speaker 1: twenty five, and that question kind of lingered into the
28:25
Speaker 1: very next week and for a month and yet you know,
28:28
Speaker 1: you have an entire offseason, you have a hot stove,
28:31
Speaker 1: you know the holidays pass, you're excited about spring training.
28:34
Speaker 3: You go provide spring training coverage.
28:37
Speaker 1: I didn't ask one question about whether or not is
28:40
Speaker 1: Dan Wilson the right man for the job. Now, one
28:43
Speaker 1: could have asked Jerry Depoto. I suppose could have asked
28:46
Speaker 1: Justin Hollander. Didn't ask it, so didn't bring it up
28:51
Speaker 1: at spring training. But before the season starts, I don't
28:53
Speaker 1: think we should forget about all the questions that so
28:56
Speaker 1: many people had about Dan Wilson, and I think it
28:59
Speaker 1: does remain to be seen as to whether or not
29:02
Speaker 1: he is the right guy for the job, that he
29:05
Speaker 1: is going to make those decisions at the right time.
29:10
Speaker 1: Come postseason time, I think we're going to see a
29:14
Speaker 1: better version. I think I'm going to disagree with him
29:16
Speaker 1: less this upcoming year. I did have some frustrations at
29:21
Speaker 1: times with him a year ago, But more than anything,
29:24
Speaker 1: I think what Dan Wilson has and what the organization
29:27
Speaker 1: recognized was this guy really does.
29:31
Speaker 3: Get the best.
29:31
Speaker 1: The players love him and he gets the best out
29:34
Speaker 1: of the players. I mean, we didn't improve his coaching staff,
29:37
Speaker 1: we didn't improve the guy whispering in his ear. We're
29:40
Speaker 1: kind of counting on Dan Wilson to make those decisions
29:43
Speaker 1: at a better clip, a more consistent clip this year
29:45
Speaker 1: that get the job done. But what they're counting on
29:49
Speaker 1: is that Dan Wilson makes his players better. And I
29:53
Speaker 1: will agree with that. I think that that is something
29:57
Speaker 1: where he and it's the most important part of the
29:59
Speaker 1: job and is the most important part of the job,
30:01
Speaker 1: more so than X's and O's, is being able to
30:05
Speaker 1: treat all your players differently because you've got a bunch
30:07
Speaker 1: of different personalities and for the most part, get the
30:10
Speaker 1: most out of them.
30:11
Speaker 5: And I do think he does that really well. Oh
30:13
Speaker 5: he has a feel for the team. And then there's
30:17
Speaker 5: the feel for the game. And I think that he
30:19
Speaker 5: has a feel.
30:19
Speaker 3: For the game.
30:20
Speaker 5: But there's there's an evolution. I mean, there has to
30:24
Speaker 5: be right where you make a decision and it works
30:27
Speaker 5: and you have to do two things. You have to say,
30:29
Speaker 5: all right, I like that, I did that. I would
30:32
Speaker 5: double down. I would do that again, not just because
30:34
Speaker 5: it worked, but because the way I felt about the
30:37
Speaker 5: decision when I made it. Then there's the on the
30:39
Speaker 5: flip side of it, you make that same decision or
30:42
Speaker 5: a similar decision, it doesn't work. You have to then
30:45
Speaker 5: look in the mirror and go, did I make the
30:46
Speaker 5: right decision? And it just didn't work out? We didn't
30:48
Speaker 5: execute it was was it the right one? Whether it's
30:51
Speaker 5: which guy you bring in, if you leave a guy
30:53
Speaker 5: in what lineup you started the game with, depending on
30:57
Speaker 5: who they have and their bullpen, all of the pieces
31:02
Speaker 5: to the puzzle. At the end, you just want the
31:04
Speaker 5: puzzle to come out right right, You just want it
31:06
Speaker 5: all to come together. Well, how you do that? How
31:10
Speaker 5: you manipulate the entire situation? Every decision is difficult. And
31:14
Speaker 5: yet if you're a if you're in any job and
31:18
Speaker 5: you think, well I got it all figured out, there's
31:20
Speaker 5: nothing else I have to learn. I got a one
31:21
Speaker 5: hundred percent. I mean, I'm talking Joe Torres and Larussa's like,
31:27
Speaker 5: you know, all of the managers, some of the best.
31:29
Speaker 5: I guarantee that they guess and second guess all of
31:33
Speaker 5: their decisions and then they have to go back to
31:35
Speaker 5: what their gut tells them combined with the information that
31:38
Speaker 5: they have available. And so I think that somebody that's
31:41
Speaker 5: in there now going into their second full season as
31:43
Speaker 5: the manager most certainly has things that he can work on,
31:46
Speaker 5: but the things that he recognizes he needs to be
31:48
Speaker 5: better at and quicker at and and keep his thumb
31:52
Speaker 5: on a little bit more. And yet I don't think
31:54
Speaker 5: that there's I don't think it's a fault. I don't
31:56
Speaker 5: think it's a weakness on this team. I don't think
31:58
Speaker 5: his managing is.
31:59
Speaker 3: I don't know there is a week. I really don't.
32:01
Speaker 1: I mean, if your biggest problems are you, will you
32:05
Speaker 1: field the ball well enough that it doesn't hurt you
32:11
Speaker 1: on the infield? And will your second year full time
32:15
Speaker 1: manager get a little sharper at his bullpen decisions? If
32:20
Speaker 1: those are your two weeks, I mean there are teams
32:21
Speaker 1: out there, like we have one starter who we can
32:23
Speaker 1: count on. No, there are teams out there like do
32:26
Speaker 1: you realize who we have hitting fourth? You know that
32:29
Speaker 1: sort of thing is haunting other teams. Our concerns are
32:33
Speaker 1: infield defense, and I'm not overleak. I'm not worried about it,
32:37
Speaker 1: but I think it is worth bringing up as a concern.
32:40
Speaker 1: And whether or not our manager, consistently at a high
32:45
Speaker 1: level makes the right.
32:46
Speaker 3: Decisions when he goes to his pen. I'll live in
32:50
Speaker 3: that world. Ye, I'll go to war with that team
32:52
Speaker 3: that those are the only two concerns that I have
32:54
Speaker 3: going into a baseball season.
32:56
Speaker 4: And and I guarantee you nobody's sec nobody went back
32:59
Speaker 4: and looked at those decisions, and you know, stewed over
33:02
Speaker 4: them more than he did. I mean, as much as
33:04
Speaker 4: we all questioned him and thought all these things. I
33:05
Speaker 4: guarantee you he spent that, you know, after the season ended,
33:09
Speaker 4: going back over. Okay, what should I have done? Would
33:11
Speaker 4: what would this outcome have been? How could I have
33:13
Speaker 4: fixed this? I would expect him to be much better there.
33:16
Speaker 1: And I promise here there was no thought at all
33:18
Speaker 1: of replacing him. They love him, They love him, and
33:21
Speaker 1: they think he's the right guy, and they felt it
33:23
Speaker 1: for a long time. All right, Coming up next, Russell
33:26
Speaker 1: Wilson made news yesterday or in the last couple of days.
33:30
Speaker 1: He finally clarified his comments about Sean Payton Sports Radio
33:35
Speaker 1: ninety three point three kJ RFM. Well, another day, another
33:53
Speaker 1: significant trade in the National Football League.
33:56
Speaker 3: Breaking news.
33:57
Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills have made a significant move for a
34:00
Speaker 1: wide receiver number one. They have traded with the Chicago Bears.
34:06
Speaker 1: Bears sending d J Moore to the Buffalo Bills. So
34:10
Speaker 1: we don't yet know, or at least I haven't yet seen,
34:13
Speaker 1: and I did just refresh right before we came on
34:15
Speaker 1: the air what the trade compensation is at this point.
34:19
Speaker 1: But the Chicago Bears, who have Young Rome and Young
34:23
Speaker 1: Luther Burden, believed that DJ Moore was expendable. I suppose
34:29
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that Doonsday, Burden and DJ Moore
34:33
Speaker 1: just all became a lot more fantasy football valuable just now.
34:37
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, in a very short period.
34:40
Speaker 2: Of time, in about thirty seconds.
34:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So I like that. I like that.
34:44
Speaker 1: I think DJ Moore is a good player and he
34:47
Speaker 1: is by far the best receiver that Josh Allen has
34:50
Speaker 1: had since Stefan Digg's prime about three years ago.
34:54
Speaker 3: So I like that, like that for both teams.
34:57
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think that the Chicago had a little
35:00
Speaker 5: bit of wealth in that category at Rome, Dunes and Burden,
35:03
Speaker 5: like you're talking about, and Colston loveson Loveland. There's only
35:06
Speaker 5: so many targets you can you know, you need you
35:09
Speaker 5: have that you can go around, even with Ben Johnson
35:12
Speaker 5: and his offensive firepower, and yet the Bills needed something
35:16
Speaker 5: like that. I remember DJ Moore on that what was
35:19
Speaker 5: the show, the the the HBO show Breaking Bad, not
35:24
Speaker 5: Breaking Bad. Yeah, hard knocks, uh. And he seemed like
35:27
Speaker 5: an unbelievable dude when they re signed him, when they
35:30
Speaker 5: kind of resigned him, he just seemed like a class act.
35:32
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's something I'm sure that Josh Allen's pretty
35:36
Speaker 5: pumped about too.
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, speaking of class acts, it was a
35:39
Speaker 1: story a year ago during the football season where Russell
35:44
Speaker 1: Wilson accused Sean Payton of being class less. He perceived
35:48
Speaker 1: and I think we all did that. Sean Payton took
35:51
Speaker 1: a shot at him, an unnecessary an unnecessary shot at him,
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Speaker 1: just out of the blue, and he responded with Sean
35:58
Speaker 1: Payton his class list.
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Speaker 3: Well, he was on the Beat.
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Speaker 1: The Boys Busting with the Boys podcast two days ago
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Speaker 1: and they asked him about the relationship with Sean Payton,
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Speaker 1: and here's what Russ had to say.
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Speaker 3: I don't say much. I never hardly ever say anything.
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Speaker 6: I think there's a time and place. But sometimes you
36:14
Speaker 6: get fatigued of people talking about you. You just see,
36:16
Speaker 6: like you mentioned, you're all human, you know, but it's
36:18
Speaker 6: one thing for people that maybe aren't in the field,
36:21
Speaker 6: or aren't people say bots or whatever, talking like I
36:23
Speaker 6: don't worry about that stuff like this. That never but
36:25
Speaker 6: to me, when you've been in the ring, or you've
36:26
Speaker 6: been on the same side this and that, and I
36:28
Speaker 6: got the same amount of rings as you got. Meaning
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Speaker 6: Sean Listen, I got a lot of respect for him
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Speaker 6: as a play caller, this and that. But to take
36:34
Speaker 6: a shot I don't like. I don't think it's necessary,
36:37
Speaker 6: especially when I'm not even on your own team anymore.
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Speaker 6: So for me, I've realized I've stayed quiet for so long.
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Speaker 6: There's a time and place where I'm not for me.
36:43
Speaker 6: I know who I am as a competitor, as a warrior,
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Speaker 6: as a as a champion. To I've beaten Sean to
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Speaker 6: you know, like we've been on the same place and
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Speaker 6: same thing, and so it's not a matter of disrespect.
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Speaker 3: Just don't disrespect me.
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Speaker 1: People are crediting him with sounding real and genuine, which
36:57
Speaker 1: he normally doesn't get credit for, and certainly didn't go
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Speaker 1: on the show to talk about Sean Payton, but I
37:03
Speaker 1: think it was inevitable he's going to be asked about
37:05
Speaker 1: Sean Payton. I really like Sean Payton. I think he's
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Speaker 1: an outstanding coach, but he's been taking cheap shots. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he's really gotten he's really gotten big for his britches.
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Speaker 1: He's not afraid of doing things that normally head coaches
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Speaker 1: don't do in the National Football League. He'll call somebody out,
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Speaker 1: he'll criticize somebody a peer. He did it with Nathaniel Hackett,
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Speaker 1: and he did it with Russell just unfairly and out
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Speaker 1: of the blue. It was just unnecessary. I think he
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Speaker 1: should be criticized for it. And I don't have a
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Speaker 1: problem with Russ defending himself in that arena.
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Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with defending himself.
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Speaker 5: I also I don't really I mean, there is a
37:39
Speaker 5: sense of professionalism where usually some things will just stay
37:43
Speaker 5: in house. But when all of a sudden, if you're
37:45
Speaker 5: an offensive minded coach, the play caller, and you get
37:49
Speaker 5: this crazy expensive Super Bowl champion quarterback that John Schneider
37:55
Speaker 5: and Pete Carroll decided we're going to move on from now.
37:59
Speaker 5: He wasn't there when they made the move to go
38:01
Speaker 5: get him, but he inherited it when he took the job.
38:03
Speaker 5: He's like, all right, yell, I'll work with Russell Wilson.
38:05
Speaker 5: I saw what he can do. Then it didn't work.
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Speaker 5: That experiment did not work, and it was abundantly clear
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Speaker 5: that Sean Payton was like, it's not working because of you.
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Speaker 5: You were incapable of taking it. At one point when
38:17
Speaker 5: he was still a player, he was like, hey, you're
38:19
Speaker 5: maybe I got to simplify my play calls, meaning you
38:23
Speaker 5: you're not understanding what it is I want you to do,
38:26
Speaker 5: to the point where they ended up paying a ton
38:28
Speaker 5: of money when he made that comment. They were paying
38:31
Speaker 5: thirty five million dollars to go play for Pittsburgh at
38:33
Speaker 5: the time when he's making this comment. So it's like, yes,
38:37
Speaker 5: you have the right to stick up for yourself, and
38:39
Speaker 5: maybe Sean Payton shouldn't be opening, you know, stuff that
38:43
Speaker 5: should be kept in house, shouldn't be putting that out there.
38:46
Speaker 5: But at the same time, it's like it kind of
38:47
Speaker 5: falls on you. It looks bad on you if you're
38:51
Speaker 5: not kind of put place in the blame where you
38:53
Speaker 5: think the blame is supposed to be. So it looks
38:55
Speaker 5: a little bit unprofessional. And yet you know, he kind
38:58
Speaker 5: of kind of played like when he was a bro.
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Speaker 1: I know, and I don't have a problem with if
39:03
Speaker 1: Sean Payton's asked by the media in the middle, in
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Speaker 1: the middle of it, or why they got rid of
39:07
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, if he answers honestly like he just wasn't.
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Speaker 3: Picking up the offense.
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Speaker 2: That wasn't the case.
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Speaker 3: Was that that wasn't the case, neither with him or
39:14
Speaker 3: with Hackett.
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Speaker 1: It was a stray that came out in a press
39:18
Speaker 1: conference that was just totally like the climate wasn't for
39:22
Speaker 1: that comment. He just decided that day I'm going to
39:25
Speaker 1: take a underhanded shot at Russell. That's I think what
39:29
Speaker 1: he deserves criticism for. And if I'm the Denver Broncos,
39:32
Speaker 1: I don't care. I got one of the best head
39:34
Speaker 1: coaches in the National Football League. Look where he's taken
39:36
Speaker 1: us in a short period of time. But in terms
39:38
Speaker 1: of just grading whether or not Sean Payton was disrespectful, yes,
39:43
Speaker 1: tord Russell Wilson and was that unnecessary? Yes, And for
39:47
Speaker 1: Russ to sort of clear up where he came from,
39:49
Speaker 1: I think that I think that was well handled.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he didn't sound like a bot for the first
39:54
Speaker 4: time in his life. He didn't sound like he had
39:56
Speaker 4: some rehearsed answer. He sounded like he was speaking genuinely,
39:58
Speaker 4: and I appreciate that.
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Speaker 3: It's probably it. This is probably it for us. Yeah,
40:02
Speaker 3: I mean maybe.
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Speaker 1: I mean he tends to talk himself into thinking that
40:06
Speaker 1: he's still special, and he probably still thinks he's going
40:09
Speaker 1: to be a starting quarterback this year. I don't know
40:12
Speaker 1: if he's going to get a job. I think maybe
40:14
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's played his last snap in the National Football League.
40:17
Speaker 3: I think there's a chance of that.
40:18
Speaker 2: I think so.
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