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KevOnStage Gets REAL About Comedy, Church & Hollywood · Get TO The Point

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  Speaker 1: That sweater is fire. Is that for Chattanooga? Yeah, this
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  Speaker 1: is my alma mater, bro. What were you guys, the
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee Chattanooga? Mocs. Moccasins. Moccasins. Yeah, but it's Mocs. Moccasins.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Mocs. But Mocs for sure. Nobody wanted to put it
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  Speaker 1: on a collection plate to think of some different names? No, no. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of.
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  Speaker 3: Similar to our next guest, you know, we're going to
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  Speaker 3: have on the show, you know, because he has a
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  Speaker 3: couple of names.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, right. We're going to shorten it up. What up, y'all?
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  Speaker 4: This is Chris Spencer and Teal, and you're watching Get
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  Speaker 4: to the Point. And please follow, like, and subscribe to GTTPod.
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  Speaker 1: That's who he is. How you feeling?
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  Speaker 2: Like I look.
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  Speaker 1: Which is? I feel good. I feel good.
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  Speaker 2: I look good.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I feel good about our guest. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: This dude, talent is an understatement. You may know him
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  Speaker 4: from the internet or as my uncle used to say,
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  Speaker 4: the intranet church, church material is some of the stuff
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  Speaker 4: that's kind of.
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  Speaker 3: I can't wait because I grew up in the church,
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  Speaker 3: so I'm. Can't wait to hear some of the relatable
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  Speaker 3: church stories. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: You may know him from All Deaf and all the
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  Speaker 1: different platforms he's been on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got, this dude wears so many hats. Content creating, writing.
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  Speaker 1: Producing, directing. And he's married with two kids.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how he does all that and still
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  Speaker 4: finds time to be a good husband and father.
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  Speaker 1: Let's welcome Kevin Stage. You said it right. But again,
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  Speaker 1: his name is Real name is Kevin Fredericks.
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  Speaker 2: Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Fredericks.
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  Speaker 2: Doctor?
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  Speaker 1: He's a doctor.
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  Speaker 3: And not like Cheyenne Bryant doctor. Yeah, I was going
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  Speaker 3: to say, wait a minute. He got some degrees. Is
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  Speaker 3: he really a doctor?
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  Speaker 4: Not like Dre, not like Jay, and not like Cheyenne.
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  Speaker 1: I know Cheyenne personally. Can we get her on the show?
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  Speaker 1: It's your show. It's our show. We can get anybody
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  Speaker 1: you want. But it's your show. I'm asking you, can
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  Speaker 1: we get it on the show? I'm saying don't call
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  Speaker 1: no hospital looking for her. What up, Kev?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Kevin.
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  Speaker 1: What up, man? Kevin Frederick.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. But again, earlier we were asking, I was like, yo,
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  Speaker 3: is it, how does people pronounce your name?
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  Speaker 1: Because people mess my name up all the time. How
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  Speaker 1: do you say your name anyway? It's Terrell, but people
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  Speaker 1: want to go with. Like Terrell, Texas.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: But people have heard it butchered so many years. on
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  Speaker 3: all these media networks, they always say Terrell, but I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 3: there's no E at the end. I'm like, but it's
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  Speaker 3: still Terrell. I'm like, no, it's like Michelle. Like Michelle
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  Speaker 3: has an E at the end. My name doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: Have an E at the end, so it's not Terrell,
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  Speaker 1: it's Terrell.
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  Speaker 3: I was in, I ran into one time, I was
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  Speaker 3: in Beverly Hills, I was going to Chipotle and they
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  Speaker 3: always roaming around there. So I kept going in there
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  Speaker 3: and then they spotted me.
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  Speaker 2: They said, oh my God, yo, there's Terrell, there's Terrell.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, it's Terrell.
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  Speaker 3: And they're like, no, no, no. no, I know your
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  Speaker 3: name is Terrell. I'm like, kids, like, for real, my
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  Speaker 3: name is Terrell. They go, no, it's not. It's always
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  Speaker 3: been Terrell. I'm like, my mama named me Terrell. I
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  Speaker 3: know my name.
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  Speaker 2: You just said my mama named me Terrell.
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  Speaker 1: Did I?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 1: See?
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  Speaker 2: You've been lying. We got to the bottom of it.
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  Speaker 1: Right. You don't even know your name now.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It's confusing. But it's Terrell. Like, yeah, it's Terrell. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we have Kevin. Kevin. Kevin. For the sake of the show,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just going to... Kev.
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  Speaker 2: Kev is safe. Kev. Kev is safe.
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  Speaker 1: How you doing, man?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good, man. How are you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you, Chris.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, when I say grind.
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  Speaker 2: But listen, his.
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  Speaker 1: Grind came out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 4: Literally, he went from high school basketball to the All-Star game.
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  Speaker 2: What? Literally.
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  Speaker 4: Kev, would you agree your ascent is a little different
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  Speaker 4: than anybody else's? Because usually we've seen guys go open mic,
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  Speaker 4: and then he's middle in this club, and then now
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  Speaker 4: he's a headliner, and then, oh, he just did Comic View,
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  Speaker 4: and like.
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  Speaker 1: Where did you come from? Right, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I swear to God, I looked up. No, you're right.
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  Speaker 1: You're right.
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  Speaker 5: It's been a, I think my career has not had
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  Speaker 5: a one big moment. So there's not like, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Like Tiffany Haddish, for example, had been working for a
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  Speaker 2: long time.
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  Speaker 5: But Girls Trip, you can point to like, oh, she's
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  Speaker 5: out of here. But she was on the Carmichael show
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  Speaker 5: before that. And in clubs, you could see her.
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Hart, too.
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  Speaker 1: We saw the build. You saw the build.
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  Speaker 2: Think like a man. Yes.
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  Speaker 5: You can point to a lot of people having like
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  Speaker 5: a moment. But mine has just been like a war
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  Speaker 5: of attrition. I've just been like three, four videos a day.
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  Speaker 5: This breaks, you know, COVID, keep your distance. Even when
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  Speaker 5: you ask me what they like about me or where
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  Speaker 5: they found me, there's not even a consensus. Some people
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  Speaker 5: have known me since my kids were five and three.
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  Speaker 5: Some just found out about me two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: They've been living under a plant.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. They've been living.
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  Speaker 1: Under a plant. If they don't know who you are,
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  Speaker 1: they wouldn't know who you are by the time we
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  Speaker 1: end this.
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  Speaker 5: Hopefully.
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  Speaker 1: So where are you from?
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  Speaker 2: So, It's a varied story, but I was born in
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  Speaker 2: El Paso, Texas. And yes.
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  Speaker 1: Ain't nobody in El Paso.
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  Speaker 2: Ain't nobody in El Paso.
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  Speaker 1: You're not even- Hispanic.
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  Speaker 2: I'm one-eighth Mexican.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: What? Fun fact.
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  Speaker 1: One-eighth?
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  Speaker 5: I am one-eighth Mexican. My granddad is half. So my
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  Speaker 5: mom's a quarter and I'm one-eighth Mexican. But that has
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  Speaker 5: nothing to do with why we're in El Paso.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: Un poquito.
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  Speaker 1: Just a little bit. One-eighth. Los Angeles. La Cienega.
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  Speaker 2: Santa Clara.
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  Speaker 5: All that stuff. All the cities in California, I could say.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, so I was born in El Paso. My
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  Speaker 5: mom got married. So I moved from El Paso. My
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  Speaker 5: dad was in the military. My stepdad. Fun fact, Terrell.
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  Speaker 1: Fun fact. I love fun facts.
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  Speaker 5: My real dad's family is from Alexander City, Alabama, where
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  Speaker 5: you are the most famous person to ever come out
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  Speaker 5: of there.
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  Speaker 1: Look at his face.
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  Speaker 2: Every time I see them, they're like, you know the
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  Speaker 2: Terrell daddy, T.O. dad? You know when I went down
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  Speaker 2: there the first time, they showed me your house? You
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  Speaker 2: are like.
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  Speaker 5: The only thing that people talk about from there, but
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  Speaker 5: that's my real dad's side of the family.
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  Speaker 1: Are you serious?
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  Speaker 2: Dad's serious.
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  Speaker 5: I just saw him on that side of the family
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  Speaker 5: at my show in Birmingham a few weeks ago.
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  Speaker 2: And he was like, we were just down there to
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  Speaker 2: your daddy. We saw him. I think, did your dad
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  Speaker 2: just pass away recently?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he did.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry for your loss. I appreciate it. He told me that.
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  Speaker 5: Like, you know, he was like, they talk about you like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: we seen him playing football. We was like, pride and joy.
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  Speaker 5: When you're from Alexander City, you the man. Terrell Owens
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  Speaker 5: is the man.
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  Speaker 1: Don't act like you don't know. Are you over here blushing? No, no,
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  Speaker 1: I am.
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  Speaker 3: As dark as I, black as I am, I'm blushing
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  Speaker 3: a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, you the shit in Alexandria, Alabama.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, but for real, it's like, people in the city, like,
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  Speaker 3: especially my family, my cousin, she was just You know,
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  Speaker 3: trying to be a city councilman, you know, in the
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  Speaker 3: political space. And they don't really have anything to recognize
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  Speaker 3: me in my city. And so they're trying to do
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  Speaker 3: a lot of stuff behind the scenes to, like, let
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  Speaker 3: people know when they come into the city of, like.
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  Speaker 1: That's where I'm from. Give them that. Yeah, I should,
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  Speaker 1: I should. A bigger version of that. Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's been a hard sell to get them
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  Speaker 3: to do anything for me in Alexander City.
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  Speaker 2: But the people, people there.
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  Speaker 1: The people know. But again, you know, we got to,
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  Speaker 1: you know what it is. Politics or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: For sure, for sure.
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  Speaker 3: But you would think that, yeah, like you said, I'm
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  Speaker 3: the most famous person.
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  Speaker 1: Is anybody else famous from Alexander City?
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  Speaker 4: I don't think so cousin to cousin woman pretty soon
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  Speaker 4: but yeah yeah shout out to Buffy yeah what up
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  Speaker 4: Buffy good luck yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah so my dad was in the military so
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  Speaker 5: we moved around from El Paso to Virginia North Carolina
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  Speaker 5: back to El Paso and then I lived in Washington
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  Speaker 5: State for 13 years and then I moved to LA
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  Speaker 5: 13 years ago so I just usually say El Paso
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  Speaker 5: to shorten it out but when I moved to LA
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  Speaker 5: I said I came from Washington because that's where I
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  Speaker 5: just live so people think I am from Washington right
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  Speaker 5: But when you're a military kid, you don't want to
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  Speaker 5: get into the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: And then where did the stand-up start?
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  Speaker 5: So I technically started stand-up first when I was 16
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  Speaker 5: at church. My brother put me up to it. There
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  Speaker 5: was a church talent show, very Lifetime movie, BET movie.
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  Speaker 5: So I did it in high school when I was 16.
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  Speaker 5: Then I just started messing around with it. But what
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  Speaker 5: really helped me is Nate Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: You know Nate. Nate Jackson had a comedy room in Tacoma.
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  Speaker 2: Super funny. Super funny comedy club.
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  Speaker 1: It's a cocky ass name for a comedy club. And
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  Speaker 1: your special.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Your special's called Super Funny with Nate Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: But he's right though.
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  Speaker 1: He's actually super funny.
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  Speaker 2: He called his shot. You killed there, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: One of my favorite sets of all time.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 2: You came to Nate's room.
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  Speaker 1: You were there? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: You did this joke. I don't want to spoil the
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  Speaker 2: joke if you still do it.
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  Speaker 1: Do it.
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  Speaker 5: You had a joke where you were talking about Tasmanian Devil.
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  Speaker 5: You ripped up some paper.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 5: Chris, I said, because I would go for years. I
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  Speaker 5: watched every single comedian. When I was learning stand-up, I
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  Speaker 5: watched from the opener to the headliner. And I was like,
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  Speaker 5: I'm watching everybody. See who's good, how they handle hecklers.
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  Speaker 1: And all that.
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  Speaker 2: And when you came, I was like, oh, my God.
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  Speaker 5: Like, there's levels to comedy, and then there's levels to comedy,
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  Speaker 5: and then you were, like, level. I was like, I
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  Speaker 5: don't know how Chris Spencer isn't one of the best
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  Speaker 5: comedians we are seeing. Like, your set was so... Because
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  Speaker 5: Nate's room used to be.
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  Speaker 1: Wait till I tell you this joke. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Nate's room used to be tough because.
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  Speaker 5: half of the back half of the room would always
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  Speaker 5: like be coming basically because it became a club after that.
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  Speaker 5: So they would never pay attention. So you had to
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  Speaker 5: like watching comedians navigate that back half who's at the bar.
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  Speaker 5: They trying to holler at women. They half drunk. And
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  Speaker 5: I'd seen very famous comedians not be able to handle it,
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  Speaker 5: get frustrated, walk off. You had everybody. Otherwise, another tactic
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  Speaker 5: people would use is like a really blue joke. would
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  Speaker 5: get everybody's attention. You came in there with so much confidence,
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  Speaker 5: you didn't do the blue joke, you came in with
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  Speaker 5: such strong material, The whole room was like, oh, this, no,
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  Speaker 5: I'm listening to this dude. And a lot of people
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  Speaker 5: hadn't known you, you know, outside of the movies. They
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  Speaker 5: didn't know you did stand up like that. But obviously
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  Speaker 5: Nate and people who love comedy did. Man, when I
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  Speaker 5: tell you, you crushed.
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  Speaker 1: Do we have any pictures together from back then or anything?
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  Speaker 2: No, I never bothered anybody.
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  Speaker 1: So definitely a student of the game.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, it was like, it was like free
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  Speaker 5: gang for like years. I mean, the whole time I
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  Speaker 5: was there, I would watch every single comedian ever. That's
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  Speaker 5: how I met Tony Baker. That's how I saw Tony.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, that's kind of where I grew. Shout out
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  Speaker 5: to Nate. He gave me 20, 25 minutes every week
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  Speaker 5: for two years.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. That's crazy. You're shocked.
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  Speaker 1: You're shocked, too. Yeah. I'm trying to figure. Listen, when
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  Speaker 1: I say. Because you never know who's in the room.
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  Speaker 1: You never know who's in the room. When I say
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  Speaker 1: I thought he came out, I thought he just came
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  Speaker 1: out of a bottle. This dude, I swear to God.
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  Speaker 1: What about, what kind of bottle? Like a, here I
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  Speaker 1: go right there. Where I'm at? A genie bottle right there.
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  Speaker 1: A genie bottle. Right here. I swear to God, you
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  Speaker 1: came on the scene like, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Well, see, the other thing is I was.
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  Speaker 1: You're like Dennis Rodman. Or you. You come from some Tennessee, Chattanooga.
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  Speaker 1: Just come out of nowhere. And my brother put you on.
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  Speaker 1: You ran a four and nine or whatever you ran.
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  Speaker 2: My brother put me on to you.
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  Speaker 1: We were 49ers.
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  Speaker 2: My bad, my bad, my bad. That's my bad, Chris.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no. We tease him.
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  Speaker 4: He was supposed to acknowledge it because he had a
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  Speaker 4: bad 40 time and still became T.O.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, did you? I don't really consider it a bad
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  Speaker 1: 40 times.
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  Speaker 4: For him.
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  Speaker 2: Was it a 49?
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  Speaker 1: No, it was 463. It wasn't that bad.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Is that a bad?
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  Speaker 3: You probably could run a 463 right now.
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  Speaker 1: Boy. You could moonwalk a 463.
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  Speaker 2: Me?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't get to that door in 4.6 seconds.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: But when he got the ball, he probably ran a 39.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. Receiver speed, top end speed is
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  Speaker 2: not really what you need.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 5: That's where Al Davis messed up with the Raiders. He
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  Speaker 5: was just like 4-2, 4-2, 4-2. Right, yeah, yeah. You
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  Speaker 5: got to separate. It's in and out of them breaks.
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  Speaker 5: That's what really does. Once you get the ball.
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  Speaker 2: T.O.
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  Speaker 1: Is yak.
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  Speaker 3: You give him a statue, Alexandria.
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  Speaker 1: Alexander. Sorry. Alexander City. Alexander City.
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  Speaker 3: Buffy, I know you didn't make mayor, but it's coming soon. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, city. Buffy the city slayer.
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  Speaker 2: Get this man a statue. That's hilarious. My aunt is
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  Speaker 2: named Muffy.
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  Speaker 1: Muffy, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Muffy is her. She's black? She's black. Johnny May is
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  Speaker 2: her birth name, but she go by Muffy.
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  Speaker 1: Johnny May. My neighbors, my neighbor, his sister's name was Muffy. See?
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  Speaker 3: For real.
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  Speaker 1: That's real. Pat Reese, yeah. One of my uncle's best friends.
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  Speaker 1: Is it in the South? Yeah. Everybody got nicknames in
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  Speaker 1: the South.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Pokey. Yeah. Yeah, everything. What was your nickname? I didn't
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  Speaker 1: have a name. I didn't have a nickname.
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  Speaker 2: He had a hard enough time explaining how his real
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  Speaker 2: name is pronounced.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Ain't no time for another nickname.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right. Chubb, Lil' Ditt, everything. It's D-I-T. I didn't say,
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: but it's Lil' Ditt. Lil' Ditt?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, foot.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody has a nickname.
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  Speaker 2: Foot is crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Bro, yeah, everybody has a nickname when I said it. Bro,
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, I didn't operate inside the regular lines. Like,
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  Speaker 5: I was doing stand-up comedy in churches when I moved
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  Speaker 5: to L.A.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 5: All the comedians were like, in order to get on,
• 13:09
  Speaker 5: I was like, how do you get on stage here?
• 13:11
  Speaker 5: Because Nate just put me on. I would do 20,
• 13:13
  Speaker 5: 25 minutes. But here was like a whole different politics.
• 13:18
  Speaker 5: So the comedians were like, what you got to do
• 13:19
  Speaker 5: is go to these nights. You won't be able to
• 13:21
  Speaker 5: go up. You got to hang out till 2 a.m.
• 13:24
  Speaker 5: You got to go to Denny's. You got to like
• 13:25
  Speaker 5: build with them.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: Fake laugh. Fake laugh.
• 13:28
  Speaker 5: Stand outside the union in the store, in the laugh factory.
• 13:32
  Speaker 5: So I told my wife, I was like, okay, babe,
• 13:33
  Speaker 5: this is how I, first week, this is how I
• 13:35
  Speaker 5: get on. And she was like, absolutely not. I did
• 13:38
  Speaker 5: not move here for you to come and be up
• 13:41
  Speaker 5: out four or five nights a week till 2 a.m.
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: No.
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: So absolutely not.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: Did you have a regular job at that time?
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: So when I first moved, I didn't. It was YouTube.
• 13:50
  Speaker 5: My kids were doing Awesomeness TV, so I was getting
• 13:53
  Speaker 5: paid to write, direct, produce, and edit their sketches on
• 13:55
  Speaker 5: Awesomeness TV.
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: With Brian?
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: With Brian Robbins, yeah. Wow. Shout out to Brian Robbins. Yeah,
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: Brian Robbins is the main reason.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: Tracy, what up?
• 14:01
  Speaker 5: Brian Robbins and Tracy Evans are the two main reasons
• 14:03
  Speaker 5: we moved to L.A. And then I was just doing
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: YouTube stuff and doing stand-up. But I would only do
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: stand-up in churches. So nobody really in L.A.
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: I didn't know you.
• 14:10
  Speaker 5: No, because I couldn't get on stage. So I was
• 14:12
  Speaker 5: just doing churches, churches, churches. I didn't really tour on
• 14:15
  Speaker 5: my own until 2018. And probably in L.A. I probably
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: performed in 13 years probably less than 25 times.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: No chocolate sundaes, no fat Tuesdays.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: I did chocolate sundaes one time. How did you do?
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: I did great. I did great. It was fantastic. But
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: it was like a two-year wait. I got my name
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: on the list. It was like a two-year wait. And
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: there's no way to speed it up.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: No way to expedite.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: Unless you go and hang out in case somebody drops off.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: With no VIP line.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: Ain't no VIP line.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: We had this thing called first impressions. Yes.
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: And literally, you'd be like, when can I get on?
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: Two months, three months, six months.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: What? We will see you in 2096.
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: It's up to like three years now, I think. Last
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: time I talked, they were like, it's like two and
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: a half, three years.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I just was like, well, that doesn't work.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: The union, shout out to the union and Enz.
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: I got the most stage time still to this day
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: at the union.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: I want to get a t-shirt that says, I miss
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: the comedy union.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: I miss it.
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: Because he was the only one really putting black comedians
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: on every night of the week. Everybody else has a night,
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: but Enz was like every night.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: To hear, had a room there. He would let me
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: work out there. To hear more.
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: So actually, if I take into account the union, it's
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: probably like 50 times. But all the other clubs, less
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: than 25 times.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: But to see where you are now, you're definitely doing good.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: You're definitely doing good. You got that $ 500 t-shirt on. Balenciaga.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: I know you're doing good. You're killing it. They're paying
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: probably $ 350.
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: These pants ain't number 90 bucks.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: I bought the same pair of jeans from Paige. But,
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: you know, these are a little something. A little blitzy.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Your whole outfit probably like $ 1, 500. I mean, come on.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: I'm coming to T.O. and Chris Spencer.
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: I don't know if Chris Spencer got bread. Chris Spencer
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: ain't even got no socks on.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: He made a choice.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: I forgot them. Yeah.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: He got no laces.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Actually, Jordan is one of my sponsors.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Are these slippers? What is this?
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: I haven't even seen it. And I'm a brand Jordan guy.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: And I haven't even seen those. T.O., what size you wear?
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: I'm a 14. What size you wear?
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: I wear 12.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Gentry, take care of these two. I got a guy
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: named Gentry. See what I'm talking about? See what I'm
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: talking about? Yeah, yeah.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: So, Boom, you're doing the stand-up scene. When did you say,
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: were you auditioning? Did you have a commercial agent?
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: Or you were making so much, not so much money,
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: but you were able to feed your family by doing
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: these other things outside.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: So I was... Because this.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: Is still pre-social media explosion.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, no. At least before people like me and
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: him knew about it. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Especially now we're
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: in the age and era of content creating. Yes, for sure.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: And making money from it. Right, and everybody is sort
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: of like these viral moments just exploding.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: I think we can call it It's like before open
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: algorithms and post open algorithms. I think a lot of
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: this explosion is when you didn't have to follow somebody
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: and the algorithm just shows it to you. TikTok, kind
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: of like post-pandemic, you don't have to follow people and
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: you'll still see their content. But for me, I've been
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: doing YouTube videos consistently since 2012. A video a day
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: since 2012. I made at least one YouTube video every
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: single day since 2012. All right, let's just get.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Let's talk money. Okay. Okay, because....
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: Me and him are just probably learning about YouTube, people
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: making money within the last four or five.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Years, correct?
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: We watch YouTube for, for me, golf, MMA, fights, highlights, athletic.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Stuff, you know what I mean? Funny stuff. Just to
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: go get information. I did not know when you guys
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: were on there making these videos, you guys were getting
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: a check.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Give me an example.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: So the fun fact is I never made a lot
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: of money on YouTube, me personally. I've never made millions
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: of views or long videos. But when I was working
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: at All Def, man, and I was head of content
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: and talent relations at All Def for four years, and.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I didn't manage the talent.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: That's All Def Digital.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: Oh, All Def Digital, Russell Simmons' old company. I didn't
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: manage these talent, but I managed their relationship with All Def.
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: But there was people making 40, 50 grand a month
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: from YouTube every month.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: And those are black creators. White creators.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: $ 150, 000 a month.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Mr.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: Beast and Mr. Beast is clearing millions, millions a month,
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: probably on YouTube. And that's just checks from YouTube. You
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: talk about brand deals. I remember at all. If I
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: made 75 grand a year and that was like, oh,
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: my God, this is great bread. I'm taking care of
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: my family. I remember there was brand deals. We would
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: give people 75 grand for a vine to promote a movie.
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: And they would make that six second Vine in our office.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Like the Batches of the World.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Batches, Brittany Furlan.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Melvin Gregg.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Melvin Gregg. People of that stature. Damn.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: They would make my salary and then make that video
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: in my office. Like I remember one of these Viners
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: was like promoting whatever movie it was.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I remember the movie.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: She was like, yo, I'm. X, Y, Z, man, go
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: check out this movie. It comes out in theaters on
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: August 13th.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Six seconds video. And behind you, they were on like,
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: was it on Twitter?
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: It was its own platform.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Own platform, but people were six seconds.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: But people didn't put it on Twitter. Right, right.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: It was only for six seconds. I know, I know.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: She got like 70 grand for that video and then
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: submitted the invoice right then.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Like, didn't even leave. Signed the thing, made the video
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: in the office, submitted the invoice. It was like, cool,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I'll see you in that check.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: And where is she now? I don't know. Her name
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: is Regina Hall.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: She's a big news star.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: But yeah, it's very lucrative now. Now kids dream of
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: doing this for a living, and it's a viable it's
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: a viable job opportunity for them do you think I.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Mean besides you but this question seems to be asked
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Hollywood finally now respects you guys correct for sure yeah
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: there was a time it was like absolutely a little
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: little digital stuff over there.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: If you want like a mainstream.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a time you were not going to.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Cross over.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: No.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: They might throw in an influencer for a little pop,
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: but like a real, real show, never, never happening.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Ever.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: So did you have to really like put a real
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: lot of thought into like your content creating, especially like
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: I was just saying, like if you weren't like a
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: top comedian, like what went into your thought process as
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: far as like your content creating?
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Like, okay, well. Let me just come up with something
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: that's going to go viral.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: For me, it was actually like, I'll use the baseball analogy.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: It was like, I'm going to be like Ichiro Suzuki. Like,
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to be home runs, but it's just
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: like getting on base, on base, singles, singles, singles.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: You weren't looking for the home runs.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not looking for the home runs.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Were you not looking for the home runs or you
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: just weren't getting home runs?
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: I wasn't getting home runs, so I maybe switched my
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: strategy to like, let me just get on base.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Because at that time, when I first started, you needed money.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: You needed cameras. You needed stuff. And I didn't have
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: any of that. So I was like, well, I can't
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: do that. So what can I do?
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: I can make a short video about whatever's trending, you know,
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: and just kind of just keep making it. So I've,
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: Still to this day, even though I have all these
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: other things going on now, to me that day-to-day connection
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: point with the audience is still why I knew I
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: was going to do this. We'd be here for an hour,
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: hour and a half or so. So I was like,
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: let me get two or three videos up before we
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: get in here.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: In one day?
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: In one day. I have three videos posted already today.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: It's 10 o'clock.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Where are they?
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: On Instagram, TikTok, Threads, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube Shorts. Every day?
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Every day.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: And that's just my short form.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: I also have podcasts long form on another YouTube page.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: I have a Patreon that I manage that has content
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: that doesn't ever see the public a lot of day.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: And that's not to mention, like, this is great.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Is that when you cuss?
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not. That is where I cuss now. I'm
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: doing a little bit more every day. A little bit
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: more every day.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: I saw your post where somebody said.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Wow, you know, he's on reels acting like he's a
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: regular person.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: And then you wrote.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I don't remember this.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: You said I'm just an ordinary nigga.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: I was like, Kev on stage. I really am though.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: But people put you on this pedestal.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: And they shouldn't.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: I'm just a nigga with the same internet you have.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at the same.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Stories you see. Same platform, same options, opportunities.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: Literally, I'm just, I really, the only difference between me
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: and most people is they comment, I create.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Like, you might respond to a thread. I'm like, oh,
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: I'm making a video of that. I make my response
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: in video form, right? I don't just quote tweet you.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I do. For the most time, most part, I'm
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: just doing the same thing you're doing.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: I'm just turning that into content instead of just replying
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: to something like that.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: How should me and T.O. below this?
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, we already number two or three. But how
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: do we get to number one? What would you do?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Man, you know what? It's like, Club Shay Shay is
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: airing today. Me and Tony did Club Shay Shay.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: What Shannon has done, it's great interviews, and it's just
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: so many clips.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: They will put out, man, Shannon will put out 30,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: 40 clips.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: It's like there's a stat that says somebody won't even
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: think about following you until they've seen 16 of your posts.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: That they like. Brianna! Brianna! Taryn, listen.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Anthony.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: So it's like you have to put out so much content.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: So when they asked me to do this, I'm like, oh, great.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: Whenever this comes out, it'll probably get two or three,
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: four clips out of this, hopefully. That's three or four
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: videos I don't have to make that day because as
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: I'm getting busier, it's harder and harder for me to
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: scour the internet making videos. So now I'm just repurposing
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: stuff that I've done. and making that a video so
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: I can hit my quota without having to create it
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: all myself.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Man, I'm listening to everything you're doing. I'm like, how
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: do you even have time to do anything?
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: How do you sleep?
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: The funny thing is, I get that question a lot.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I sleep a lot. Really?
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: I just am really efficient from when I wake up.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: I usually am in the bed asleep by 10 p.m.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Almost every night.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: If I'm not coming from a show or something like that,
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: I'm up at 5, go to the gym, But I
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: just like, when I take my five, six mile walk,
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: I'm scrolling TikTok threads. I'll make a video while I'm walking,
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: sometimes two. So by the time I get home and
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: take a shower, I'm like, okay, that's two videos down.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: Then I get out of the shower, eating breakfast, I'll
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: scour the internet. You know, I often get three up
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: before 10 a.m. So then I can focus on whatever else.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Wifey and kids, they be like, dad, where does their time,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: when do they have their time?
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: And that's one of the reasons. The other thing is,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: that's a great question. This don't take long. Like, I'll do.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: Something like this, right? I'll take less than three minutes
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: to make some. I'd be like, yo, I'm out here
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: with T.O. and Chris Spencer doing their brand new podcast. Man,
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: you know T.O. one of my favorite receivers. I didn't
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: tell you yet, but it's true.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: T.O. out here, Chris Spencer, one of my favorite comedians.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Chris Spencer had.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: My favorite joke. You'll check this podcast out soon, right?
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: So I'll post that.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: I've actually dumbed it down because the algorithm doesn't care
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: if the quality's high. It doesn't care. Like, it's actually
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: more successful stripped down now. Like, grainy videos work.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Raw, just raw, yeah.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: People are craving authenticity more than anything.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: Authenticity is working more than anything else people are saying
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: man you know what i like chris i like t.o
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: nobody back in the day in hollywood and you have
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: a long hollywood career the network had to tell you
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: in the marketing matter how to back you up that
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: was the only way so it was like force fed
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: force fed force fed now people are like i don't
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: care how many people won't even care how many views
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: it gets that's my show if this is their podcast
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: get to the point is their podcast they don't care
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: if it gets a million views or a hundred thousand
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: or five thousand That's my show. So you don't even
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: have to be having a lot of views to be successful.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: You just have to have people who really, really rock
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: with you, who watch your stuff all the way to
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: the end, who buy your merch, who will come if
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: you do a live show. And virality is not an
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: important part of your business model. Consistency, equality, and authenticity
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: are much more important parts. I haven't really gone truly
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: viral that much in my career, if at all.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: What's the definition of viral? Because people use that word
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: so loosely.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: I don't even know how many views viral is now.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Because a average person, anybody can go viral, 30, 40
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: million views. But think about how many videos you watch
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: a day now.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Like, they don't hit.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: A viral video like, say, Gungam Style 13 years ago,
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: everybody on earth knew what you're talking about. You could
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: be getting dragged on TikTok and the majority of the
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: world has no idea who you even are or ever
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: use TikTok.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I've been dragged on threads. The majority of Americans don't
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  Speaker 2: even use threads. You know what I mean? So viral
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  Speaker 2: is relative.
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  Speaker 5: I say you have to be like 20, 30 million
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: views to be really viral. But even in that, if
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: that went viral, you can have a 20 million view.
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  Speaker 1: But then you got to ride that wave though.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the hard part.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Right. You got to come back with something.
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  Speaker 5: And that's why I go the Ichiro Suzuki model, just single, single.
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  Speaker 5: That's why that three videos a day really helps me
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  Speaker 5: because some days three videos would be 1.5 million, 1.7 billion,
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  Speaker 5: 2 million on Instagram. The next day it'd be 5,000.
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  Speaker 1: 50,000, 100,000. Like you said, consistency.
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  Speaker 2: Either way, I got to put two or three videos
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  Speaker 1: When did you know you were funding?
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  Speaker 5: I knew I was funny as a kid when I
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: realized my grandma was letting me get away with stuff
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: because I made her laugh. It was as simple as
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: I should be in bed by 8 o'clock, but she's like,
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  Speaker 5: come here and do that.
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  Speaker 2: Do this. Shout.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: Sister Daniels did. And it'd be like 8.05. As long
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: as I was making her laugh, she's not like, go
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: to bed, go to bed, go to bed. So that's
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  Speaker 5: and attention, right? Like my grandma and my aunts and
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  Speaker 5: uncles motioning me over and be like, do that thing
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: that happened in church. Um, that's when I realized I
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  Speaker 5: was funny. That's also when I realized people will not
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: laugh at something when they, when it happens, but still
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  Speaker 5: think it's funny. And people be like, Oh, that we
• 28:00
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  Speaker 5: publicly do it. And still to this day, I have
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: pastors who watch roast me and DM me like, Oh,
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  Speaker 6: When you said your grandma.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Said, dude, do such and such, that sister did a
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: shout in church. Yeah. White people probably don't know what
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: that means. No. Shouting in church? They have no idea.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: One time I had a show in Yakima, Washington, and
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: we told this white dude to come up and shout.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: It was a white church invite us. When that dude
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: got to it, we said, on the count of three,
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: we're going to play some music. You're going to shout
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: on the count of three.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: One, two, three. You know what he did? Ah!
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: When I tell you, we died laughing. He was like,
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: what are you doing? He was like, y'all told me
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: to shout. We were like, oh, we're living in two
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: different worlds.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: And being that, like I said, you have a church background.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: I'm the same way. My grandmama, you know, raised us
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: in the church. We went to church pretty much every day.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: That was Deacon. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Every day. Every day.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Monday day was Bible study. Tuesday was Deacon's meeting. Wednesday,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: it might have been.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Uh, sisters, uh, appreciation meeting, um, Thursday that, I mean,
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: it was, it was something, bro. It was always something every,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: every day we went to church damn near, but to,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: to hear you say shout.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: That just, it just took me back with the tambourines,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: the drums.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, it get the Holy Ghost, the
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Spirit coming into the.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Church to where it's like. That used to scare me. Really? Yeah.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, to the point to where, like, the drummers
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: are getting so into it, bro.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Like, their sticks are breaking.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Like, stuff just everywhere. And then you're talking about people shouting.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm used to, like, back in the day, like,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: women didn't wear pants. Not the church anyway.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: That's how I grew up, too.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: But now, like you say, in the Bible, it says,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: come as you are. So it's more accepting. Very casual, yeah. Yeah,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: very casual. Very casual.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: But one of the things that I remember about shouting, like, yeah,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: you hear the shouting, they're feeling it, the Holy Ghost,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: the Spirit is getting to them. But really one of
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: the things that really just kind of like was unexpected
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: to me when they were shouting so much and you
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: It's not demonic, but to the point to where they're
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: foaming at the.
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: Mouth, bro.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: That's why it was scaring me.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: It's terrifying.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: As a kid, it's like, this is insane, man.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, and it's like an out-of-body experience. What were
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: you going to say about the dress? Did the dress
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: come up or something?
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: How are you going to tease us with the dress
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: and not finish it? See how the devil, the devil
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: is really busy. Even in this show, the devil is busy.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to educate these people.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: You started off by saying they'd have on these dresses,
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: and now, shucks, they wear pants, see?
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: See what I'm talking about? Oh, they come as they are.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: But when they used to wear them dresses, I was
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: in the back pew. I rebuke you in the name
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: of Jesus. The devil is alive. He is alive today.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: It's not happening.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: I thought it was.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: We all thought it was. No, but as a little kid,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: you know, they be shouting. You'll see some. They had slips.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Slips. Slips and stockings.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you now.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Slips and stockings. So you weren't really finna see no action. No, sir.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Not in church. Not at AOH. No, man.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: No, sir.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: No, man.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: It wasn't none of that. No, sir. You weren't about to.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I ain't heard the word slip in 20 years. Right, exactly.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: See that? That was like, ooh, you know what I mean?
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: That was too much.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Slip's too much.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: That was too much. Slip, girdles, stockings. Right. Man, under armor.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Man, what? Man, it was almost spankish thing back then. Spank,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: all of that. Man, I'm trying to tell you. I'm
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: trying to tell you, Chris. I'm trying to tell you now.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I knew there was a story. I knew there was
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: a story.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: But just talking about being in church, like, I know
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: you don't want to go too deep into it, but
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: did that discourage you from doing certain type of content?
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Because like I said, I know growing up in a
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: strict household, for me, getting my ear pierced, my grandmama
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: was like, Put me at the house.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't get an earring until I was in college.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: And when I knew I was grown enough to do it,
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: and I was scared to go home then.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Did you come home with it in your ear? Yeah, bro.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Did you have it in your ear when you came home? Yeah,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: my grandma.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: And I tried to hide it. You know, I tried
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: to hide it. You know, you try to do something
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: like this. You know what I mean?
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Hey, grandma.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: There's no way you can hide it. Right. And she
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: looked at me, and I felt fear, bro.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: What you doing with that earring in your ear? And
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I mean... I'm like, I'm in college now. I don't
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: care about that. But I was still living with my
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: grandmama at the time.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it was a huge deal in the church.
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: Fred Hammond got an earring. My church was like, gospel
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: is dead. God is coming back.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: There is no love for the like. It was huge. So, yeah,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: coming from that, it's like. It's like Bobby Boucher and
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: the Waterboy. Once you say everything's the devil, it's just like,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: all right, man.
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: We can't do nothing. We're having sex anyway. So yeah,
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: to answer your question, for a long time, I don't
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: think the church, it was the church thing. It was
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: like YouTube was very restrictive about anything outside the lines
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: would get your channel demonetized you wouldn't get you know
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: money so I wouldn't I didn't really cuss at that
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: time but I wouldn't say nigga or anything like that
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: because I didn't want I needed all that money even
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: if it was 180 bucks at that time so.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: You had to censor your content yes tailored on what
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: they're absolutely but I think I was always kind of
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: bucking against the system of the church I never wanted
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: to be considered only a church comedian because that was
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: too limiting to me.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: So when I was doing Nate's it was funny because
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: I would do churches and I would do my church jokes,
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: but at Nate's I would talk about anything that I
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: wanted to.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: And people from church would come in there and they'd
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: be guilty.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: They'd be like, well, this is a comedy club, Kev,
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: don't tell my pastor I'm here. I'm like, I'm about
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: to go on stage. If I tell him, I'm telling
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: on myself.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: You still were relatively pretty clean.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: Relatively clean at that time, but I wasn't only talking
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: about church stuff. To me, the world was just bigger
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: than that. I think when we first started going viral,
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: it was for the Playmakers YouTube channel, How to Shout
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: in a Black Church, Black church says, black parents say,
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: all that type of stuff. And then after like maybe seven,
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: eight videos, I immediately was like, I got to make
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: my own page because I don't want to only be
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: church boy, church, church, church, church. So I made KevOnStage
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: page just so I could.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Express all of this stuff. Before you even go any further,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: where did the name KevOnStage come from?
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: So at this time I was on Twitter and people
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: were getting fired.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: What year are we talking?
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: This is like 2008. Nine, nine, nine.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: So you're in LA.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. I moved to LA to 2013. Yeah. So...
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: There was people who were getting fired. So at that time, Facebook,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: you could only use your real name.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: You had to use your birth name or Facebook wouldn't
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: approve you. And on Twitter, people started using their real
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: name just from Facebook. But there were some instances where
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: people were like making jokes and people would find out
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: where you worked and they were getting fired. So I
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: was like, well, dang, I don't want that to happen.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: So let me like at least change my name. So
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: I literally was like, my name is Kevin and I'll
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: be doing stand-up. So I'll be on stage. So I'm
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: just going to go by Kev on stage. It was
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: as simple as that. I wish I'd never done it.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: I did not think I would be known as KevOnStage
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: for the rest of my life. People know me as
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: KevOnStage so much, some people have thought my last name
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: is Stage. And I'm like, you ain't never met nobody
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: with the last name Stage. I would much rather be
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: known by Kevin Fredericks, my actual given name. But at
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: the same time, If people know you, I'm not going
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: to complain.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I'm sure Cedric the Entertainer is doing just fine.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: Literally don't need to know what Cedric the Entertainer's last
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: name is.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Dog is doing great.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Ice Cube is doing great.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: I was one of those people. I thought your last
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: name was Stage. I thought it was. Right.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Yo, you ain't.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Never known nobody last named.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: To be Stage ever. It's the first time for everything, bro. Hey,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I literally.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Hey, you're a different cat, bro. I was like, hey,
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: I know. Yeah, it's a black guy named Stage.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Because Babyface got a brother named Kevon.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: He does.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Kevon Edmonds. I just thought it was just... It was
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: your first name, you just kind of tweaked it, and
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: then your last name was stage.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: So I was like, all right.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: But he's not the only one that thought that, right?
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: No, that's what I'm saying. A lot of people thought that.
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: But at the same time, it's like the dude who
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: played M'Baku in Black Panther. He does other movies. His
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: name is Winston Duke. We're like, man, we see M'Baku. Man,
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: look at him in this scary movie. M'Baku killing it.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: So we just, that's how we are as black people.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: I'm just glad people remember me at all.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: If you recognize my name, it's fine. There's worse problems
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: to have.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: You mentioned the roast show. Yeah. And that's one of
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: my favorite things in the world. But I'm going to
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: tell you.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: You always bring this up, Chris. Dude, this is the
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: most brilliant joke and painful joke in the world.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Brilliant and painful at the same time. We had a
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: roast for one of his dear friends, Tahir Moore, who's
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: in his little troop. Tahir Moore.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: And he says to me, Chris Spencer is one of
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: the most wanted people in Hollywood.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: But they want him behind the camera and not in
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: front anymore. Yo!
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: Tears rolled down my face from laughter and pain.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I was like, is this nigga right? Am I not
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: in front? Yeah, I did that, but that's because... Jamie
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: put me on, but it was so brilliant.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: And that's when I was like, but you got go
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: on Hulu now though.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Go to Jason on Hulu.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: But see, you're another example. Like you have my, my
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: milk of magnesia, right? Black people, you only got to
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: do one thing.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: And we will love you. You mentioned real husband.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Real husband. You created, you're probably on your way to talk.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I'm going, Get there, Chris. I'm sorry. Forgive me.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: But that was front page. Milk of magnesia. Can you
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: tap that white girl?
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: To this day, when I see people, especially athletes in
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: the airport, they'd be like, yo, I tried to name
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: some other credits.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I ain't never seen none of that shit. It's one.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Don't be a minister.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, Sister Keith. tap that white dude? And they
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: make me do it in front of their family. Oh, God.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do it.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Stop making you do it.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Do the shit. Excuse me, sister, can you tap that
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: white dude like you did it on the set?
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: That's what I love about being black, man. Yes.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Like you just said, they call you by the name
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: they know you from on TV. Listen.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: And that's okay with me.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I'm fine with that.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: So what did the church give you?
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Man, you know what?
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: One of my friends said this, and I think it's
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: so true. The black church was like a conservatory. Like,
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: it gave you an opportunity to perform, develop your talents,
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: a stage, consistency, like, creative musicians. That's why we talk
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: about R & B in its heyday. And even prior to, like,
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: 90s R & B, from Ray Charles, like, Learning to
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: play and being in a black church and.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Having, like, you really be bombing.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: They won't boo you, but you know when you're not
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: doing well at whatever you're supposed to be doing. So
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: the black church, like, I would not be who I am. First,
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: it gave me the material to make fun of.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: But then it also let me be on stage. It's
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: the first place I did stand up. I used to
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: play the drums in church. I used to play the
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: bass in church. played the keys in church. I was
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: a youth pastor for many years. I was actually a
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: youth pastor doing stand-up and comedy at the same time.
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: I would invite people from the comedy club to church,
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: and people from church would come see me at the
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: comedy club. So it was like, it was my stage.
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: And still a big part of who I am and
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: why I am and where I'm from.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Me and T.O.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: Never met each other, but had the exact same experience
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: in two different parts of America. I was in El Paso,
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: he was in Alabama. We were having the same experience,
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: so that connective tissue connection is it makes me be
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: able to speak your language. It gave me my first show,
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: Churchy on BET. I was pitching all kinds of shows,
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: and I remember Sheila Duckworth, I pitched her.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: What up, Sheila?
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she gave me the best advice.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: I was pitching some funeral show, and she was like,
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: did you grow up working in a funeral home?
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: And I was like, nah. She's like, does your family
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: own one? I was like, nah. She's like, why are
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: you pitching this? I was like, I just thought it'd
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: be funny.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: She was like, you should pitch something that you know
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: inside and out that nobody else knows as well as
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: you do.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: And you said Balenciaga. Yeah. And it was the church.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: And even though I wasn't able to, like that show
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: never got bought, to answer one of your early questions, CO,
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: Hollywood is going to influencers because influencers don't need Hollywood.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: And the best way to get Hollywood's attention is to
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: prove you don't need Hollywood at all.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Act like you don't.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Act like you don't exist.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: A lot of y'all take pay cuts going to Hollywood.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: You know what, Chris? I am not going to hold you.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I thought there was much more money in Hollywood than
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: there was.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Not the money y'all making.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Man, when I went, I booked a show at Disney.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Boy, they a penny pinch you, boy.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Man, when I got that check, I said, man, what?
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Did you finally cuss? No. But I was.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Blowing my mind. So this is a big Disney show.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I got speaking role, like, clearly.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: Man, when I tell you when that check hit my account,
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: it was like 800 bucks.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: And I was like, that's why people think Oh, all
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: the things you do, what's the most lucrative? Stand-up comedy live.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Hard tickets.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Is where it's really at.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: Now, when you get to the top of Hollywood, obviously,
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: it's lucrative. But for the majority of us, the majority
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: of people are not making that much money in Hollywood.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I love seeing you and Tony out there on stage.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. That's my dog.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Tell them about Tony Baker.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Tony Baker, one of my favorite comedians. He's on my
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore of comedians. So it's me, Tony. Well, don't
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: worry about it. You know, you are my favorite set mates. But, uh.
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: But no, Tony is just brilliant, and we just have
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: really good chemistry. Me and Tony have really good chemistry.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: Me and Angel have really good chemistry. Bald Brothers, we
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: have a podcast. We have a live show. We have
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: a show on Tubi, which we went 16 dates.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I saw it.
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: Did fully improv stand-up. Brought people on stage. We were
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: trying to think of how we can make more material
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: for without burning our material. So we, like most comedians,
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: were like really precious about our material, because we don't
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: want you to hear our joke online and then you
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: come pay to see us and we're doing that same joke.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: So I took a page out of 85 Styles' book.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: I was like, can we create something that, I don't
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: care if I burn the whole hour, hour and a half,
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: and it was improv. So yeah, me, Rich Washington, who
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: runs TV and film for me, came up with this
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: idea to, you know, just freestyle whatever trending topic is
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: and then ask funny questions and interview people. And every
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: show is different. So we can put all the shows,
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: every clip out, and it doesn't change any of our material.
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: So it's been super fun, super helpful to us selling tickets.
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: How many seats, roughly?
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: Because some of the, you guys are- Long Brothers, man, we-
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Y'all in theaters.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Over 1,000, yeah.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: We could do, you know, we did 3,000 in D.C.,
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: 1,200 in New York. You know, we sold some tickets.
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: We did over 1,000 in London.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Like, we were selling. Not every city, but for the
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: most part, we was doing really well.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Were you blown away that your name was known overseas?
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: It blows my mind to this day.
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: That I can go to London and sell tickets, and
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: people not only come from London, people from Germany will
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: be like, okay, if London's as close as he's getting,
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: I'll go, I'll take a train from France, Belgium.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Mostly black people? All black people. A lot of people,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: all black people.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: And I want people to know, I want you to
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: say that again, because a lot of us think we
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: have to become mainstream, we have to.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: Water down our material, make sure that that culture understands it, no.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: You and Tyler Perry are living testimony to like, this
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: black audience will buy me Balenciaga. I'm going to do
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: it at least two more times today.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: I should have worn my HBCU shirt. I was going
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: to wear the HBCU shirt.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Hey, man, look.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Hey, all I know is I only think I own
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: a Balenciaga shirt.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Come on, T.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: I need to take your page out of your book, man.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: I need you to start doing me some content. Creating content, producing, writing.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Listen, man.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: You look good in that.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: I work hard, man. I want to see it. I
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: want to do a thing or two.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: It's thick.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: That's heavy teeth.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: That's quality, man. Say it like Tiffany.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: What?
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: That's nice.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: That's nice. Yeah, I like that.
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: But yeah, it's like, it's unbelievable that you, like you
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: see these videos, but you don't realize those videos get
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: millions of views.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Like that's actual people watching that. You know what I mean?
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: So selling out in London, the last time I was
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: in London at a church, I did like 3,000 Tickets
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: sold in London.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Incredible.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: And it was like mind-blowing.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Kevon, sign this. Yeah. That's dope, dude.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: And what's great about that is if you had a
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: show on NBC, CBS, it might not have.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Translated like that.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: Chris, there's so many shows now. You can be the
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: number one show on a network, and people have never
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: even heard of that show. There's just so many shows,
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: so many networks. You could be like number one on Severance.
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: People are like, I ain't got Apple TV. Never heard
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: of that. Never heard of Ted Lasso. And these are
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: shows that get billions of views.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: But you know what they do watch?
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: They watch Instagram.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, social media.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: And that's what I told somebody.
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: It was like, if you're a Denzel fan, you love Denzel,
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: you watch everything he does in every interview about every movie,
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: you might have five to six hours of Denzel in
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: a given year. If you love Kev on stage, you
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: can watch me six, seven hours. And people often do
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: a week. Two podcasts, me and Angel do a podcast Tuesday,
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: or I'm sorry, Monday and Wednesday, hour and a half each.
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: People watch every episode. Me and Tony do the Ball
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: Brothers now twice a week. You might watch eight hours
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: of me just in podcast form. That's not talking about
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: videos on your phone. So the connection point feels much closer.
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: People know my son's in college. They know what school
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: he goes to. They know that he told me not
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: to come on campus and have lunch with him. I
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: was like, can I come have.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Lunch with him? Really? Absolutely.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: How many kids? Two boys.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Two boys.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: How old are they?
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: 20 and 17. The other one, my youngest one's turning
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: 18 in like three weeks.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: So out of your kids and your family in general,
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: who's the most proud of you?
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: I know you have like, who's the most proud? That's
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: a great question.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: That's a great question.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Now I got to think.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Probably my wife is probably the most proud of me.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: She has seen and been instrumental in the growth. My
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: wife has seen so much stand-up. She tags my jokes everywhere.
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: She's told me why jokes that are working are not working.
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: This current hour that I'm working on, she is instrumental
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: in my success, and she's probably the most proud of me, easily.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: My parents are probably second, and then her parents, and
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: then probably my kids. But my wife's number one. Yeah,
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: Melissa is number one, for sure.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: Because even through my career, Chris' career, we're all going
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: to have those ebbs and flows, those ups and downs
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: throughout the course of our career.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I know reason you lost your brother. Tell us a
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: little bit about that.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: And did that inspire you to like, you know, sometimes
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: we use grief to kind of like motivate us sometime
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: and we go through it and you like try to
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: find a purpose of why this and that happened.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about that, if you will.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: So my brother was, like I said, he's the reason
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: I did stand up. He's the one that coached me
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: to go. And he was my manager. The reason I
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: got Spectrum commercials, he was instrumental in a lot of
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: those things. So we had dreams of like doing this
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: in Hollywood.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: It's funny.
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: One of my favorite jokes from this grief tour, and
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: I've talked about it. He, he passed away, um, suddenly.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: And my homeboy was my, my homeboys were, we were
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: in a group chat talking about Nia Long and Imei Wodoka,
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: that scandal.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: Um, he, he caught, got caught cheating on Nia Long, um,
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: that day. And one of the first jokes I wrote
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: about grief is my homeboy said, You know, we're.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Talking about Nia Long, like, man, she's so fine.
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: Like, if Imei cheated with Nia Long, like, who's the
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: other girl? And my homeboy was like, man, my girl
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: finer than Nia Long. And we were like, that's what
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: caused this heart attack. Oh, he saw that. He was like,
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna get up out of here, man. That's, that's
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: how egregious that statement was. And once I realized that
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: I could joke about that, I was like, I want
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: to honor him in comedy because that's the thing we
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: bonded over. It's the thing that we love is we
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: used to perform on stage together as the playmakers. Um,
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: and I think as a comedian, it's the thing I
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: do best is comedy. I always use the example. If
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: I was a, Painter, if my brother passed away, I
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: would have painted a portrait of him. If I was
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: a sculptor, I would have sculpted something. So because I'm
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: a comedian, I want to honor him with my gift,
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: with comedy. And at the same time, help myself grieve,
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: help other people grieve. So that's where this Grief Sucks
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: idea came from. That's what I'm touring right now. That'll
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: be on 2B in February, on his birthday. I'm going
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: to release a special on his birthday, February 2027. That's incredible.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: So was it health related? Or was it just out
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: of the blue?
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: It was out of the blue. He had a heart attack.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: And that's the crazy part is... You are just living
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: your life. You know, you're not expecting that.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: How young was he?
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: He was 42. Wow. Same thing with David Arnold. Yeah,
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: David Arnold broke a lot of our hearts, right? I'm sorry.
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: David Arnold is another example of just living his life,
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: career going well, really just, yeah, like shows, Lele show,
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: and stand-up, and writer's room, doing all that stuff.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Netflix specials.
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: So you, you know, and the crazy thing is with
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: grief is like the world continues on without catching a break.
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: Like my brother passed away. People are still going to work.
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: They still getting gas. They still going to the grocery store.
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: Your bills are still due. You want the world to stop.
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: And the world's like, bro, we do not care about that.
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: Like it's a wrap. When we went to Houston, they
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: weren't like, oh, because your brother passed away, we're going
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: to give you the hotel rooms for free.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, so sorry.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: 389. And this car didn't work. Exactly. So yeah.
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I think comedy is a very helpful part
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: of dealing with grief, for sure.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Man, you still love it.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Comedy?
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Stand-up.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: No, not just comedy. Stand-up. If I could do nothing else.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: People don't understand.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Stand-up is all I need.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Can you explain to people why?
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: There is, first of all, laughter's involuntary. So I have
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: to make you laugh. And fame can't make you laugh.
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: How funny you were in movies, TV shows, you'll get
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: a three minutes where people are like, ha ha, yeah.
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: If you're up there for 45 minutes, I don't care
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: if I love you. I see niggas I love bomb,
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: and I'm just like, hey, you can't have it today.
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: But when you are killing... And you have a whole room,
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: whether it's 200 or 2,000. And actually, I prefer comedy clubs.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: I like people right up top of you. Intimate, hot.
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: But when you are killing, man, it is an unreal feeling.
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: When I make a video, I can't tell you like it.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: I can see the comments and all that stuff. When
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: I make a joke that I know is, oh, this
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: is my closer or this, you're not going to expect this.
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: And watching it hit you. It's the best.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Feeling on earth.
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: It's the one thing I... You can take away all
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: the other stuff. Social media, TV shows, movies. If I
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: could just perform, stand up for the rest of my life,
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: I'll be like, bet.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to even... I've never asked him this
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: question before. I'm sorry to interrupt you. Tell him the
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: feeling of when you have a.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: New joke and how you have to take it to
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: the stage and then that feeling of when it works.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: There's like....
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: The only thing I can compare it to, this might
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: sound crazy to non-comedians, it's like watching your baby learn
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: to walk. That's pretty good. Like having an idea in
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: your mind that you think, oh, this could be funny.
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: Because the thing about stand-up is everything I think is
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: funny is not.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: It doesn't work in joke form.
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: I can't figure out how to make every funny thought
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: I have actually work as a joke. So sometimes you
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: take it out there and you try and try as
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: you might, work on it.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Remix it. Remix it.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Do it backwards.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Try a funnier word. Right, right.
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: There's nothing there. It just ain't got no legs. But
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: when you have an idea, the best part is you
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: have an idea and it kills from jump. Woo! But
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: the second best is like working something and saying, say
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: I got hit by a car, I got hit by
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: a Buick.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: Because Buick is funnier than car.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Tweaking it a little bit.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Buick Skylark is funnier than Buick.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: So, you know what I mean?
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: So, finally doing that and the best is getting that
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: joke to as funny as possible and then you have
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: to let it go.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Like, once it's at its point, you're like, oh, this
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: is great. But that feeling, the only thing that's even
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: close is like sex. Bussing a nut?
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: And killing in a stage.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: 1A, 1B. Wow.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Dr.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Reverend. Hey, I'd be busting nuts. Hey, pastors do that too.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Hey, man. I don't like him looking me in the
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: eye as he says it.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: That's the closest thing to killing 200 people.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: It's true though, T. I think he could do stand-up.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: I think so too.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: You, you think so? Absolutely.
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: You have the, you have the, you have the standup
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: is the master of like five other things. It's originality, creativity, um, pacing.
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: stage presence and reading an audience. So when you was
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: doing that press conference, that's stage presence. That's comedy. Yeah,
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: like you're not afraid of the moment. You know the
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: weight of it. Like when you run into that star,
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: you want the attention. So you know how to do that.
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: It's just, can you be original?
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Sustain it. You got to be able to sustain it.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: And you got to handle the days you're not funny.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: And that's why a lot of people quit.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: It's like football. Like every day, like I mean, Some
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: days you.
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: Don't have it.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Some days you ain't got it. One dropper class or
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: two or three or four.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I've been there.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you how easy it would be for you.
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: Not easy, but how you have the advantage, A, because
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: of your charisma and all that. But people love the storytelling.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: It isn't so much, Joe, did you hear what happened this?
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: And you pick up USA Today and you read a
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: joke and talk about the president. You have story.
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: If you told a joke about the church, like, man,
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: you know, I seen women shouting in skirts. The way
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: you said you ain't got, you ain't no action because
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: the slips and the girdles.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: You know, I already know. You can't bust no nut
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: looking at a slip. If you ain't had 100, you
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: probably could. That's true, that's true. But as like a young,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: like a preteen. Look at your hands. That's a comedy hand.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: That's funny.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: Listen, bro, to see a woman slip, bro, or even
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: a slit on some legs.
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: Bro, like, I was scared to, like, you in church,
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: you don't want to look. You don't want to get
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: caught looking too hard or too long. An ankle is
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: sexy when you can't see nothing.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Put some dates together for us. We're going to do
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: part two of y'all shit.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Yo, Chris Live.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Man, I'm trying to tell you. I'm trying to tell you. Man,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: that's crazy.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: But I felt you when you talk about seeing your
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: firstborn or your first child take that first step.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: It's the one step and then the two, one, two.
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: Because you created that joke the same way you created
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: that kid. If you are original and you are not
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: hacky and stealing jokes and remixing other people's material, but
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: if you had an original thought and thought that would
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: be funny, that's your baby.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Tell me a joke that you're working on right now.
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: Ooh, I'm not really working on anything at the moment.
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: I'm really trimming.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: The hour I have.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, because you got to get ready.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm shooting a special in three weeks.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Where?
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: So at the Pacific Electric. I'll get y'all tickets if
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: y'all want.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Pacific?
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a new Live Nation venue. It opened recently
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: during Netflix's The Joke.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Where is that? It's like downtown, edge of downtown Chinatown.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: The place is beautiful.
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but like what I'm going to work on right
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: after that is like, My kids are out of the
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: house as a father. I did everything and they abandoned me.
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: I should have abandoned them because at the end of
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: the day, we ended the same.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Day out the house. I did good.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Empty nesting.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Empty nesting. Like, what does that look like? I'm butthole naked.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: The dog's naked. What is that?
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: I haven't I've been married for 22 years. I haven't
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: been without kids in our house ever. So now my
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: son's gone. My oldest son's out the house. This new
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: experience is what I'll be exploring. What's funny about that?
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: Because I like to talk about stuff that I'm going
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: through because it's at the moment because it's most present
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: and I can be most honest about it. But there's,
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: I don't know what's funny about that yet, but that's
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: what I, when I finish the grief tour, that's probably
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: what I'll be going to.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Actually, I have a whole church hour that I'm working
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: on after that.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: It's totally separate.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Totally separate.
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: I just want to talk about the story of like
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: growing up churchy and what that means from beginning to
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: end from, you know, the truth about me From birth
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: to 30, I only missed Sunday church three times in
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: my life.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: And then since then, yeah.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: What?
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: Three Sundays from May 1st, 1983 to May 1st, 2003,
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: only three Sundays. Is that 30? Yeah. But then once
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: I started touring, I've missed a lot and how much
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: church has changed and all that stuff. I want to
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: explore what that looks like. not only has church, black
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: and white church are different, black church is not the
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: same now as it was in the early 90s. Like, it's,
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: that in and of itself is very different. So I
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: want to explore all those things probably in the next hour.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I mean, because I just, like, even now, like,
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: just something about going to church in the South.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Yes. Versus going to a black church out here in California.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Which is where I went.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Very different. Every now and then.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: Like I mentioned earlier, like, all women... they came to
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: church in dresses. Even men, like women, it was acceptable
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: for women to wear hats. Men weren't, it's a disrespect
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: for them to come into the house of the Lord
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: with a hat or a cap on. Like now, I
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: don't cringe, but I think it's so disrespectful to be
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: in the house of the Lord. Like I see guys
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: come in church with their L.A. Dodgers hat on.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Or a fedora. I'm looking, I'm like, that's not right.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: That church in you deep, T.O.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: That's just me.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: I know now it's more acceptable for even women to
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: come in with pants, but I just remember that wasn't
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: even a thing.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: I grew up in church where you couldn't wear pants, period.
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: We had our church picnic, women playing volleyball in floral
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: jean skirts. Going to Six Flags in jean skirts. You
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: could not wear pants, period. In middle school, wearing jeans
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: underneath your pants. I mean, pants underneath your skirt. and
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: taking your skirt off and putting it in your locker.
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: But to people who don't go to church, you're like,
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: what are y'all talking about?
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: And honestly, I think that's when I first started seeing
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: women wear pants in church. My recollection was when I
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: came out to California.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: That was like 2012. We different.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, very different. LA church sometimes feel like casting calls.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: There'd be beautiful people at church. When I was growing up,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: most of the people in church were ugly because that's
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: how I know you love God.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Because you're not putting no makeup on.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Please tell me that's in one of your sets.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: No, I just thought of that right now.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: Hey, write that down for me. Listen, we can stay
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: with you all day, but tell them about four downs. Man,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: we got four downs. I'll ask you four questions.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Okay. It's almost like you're at the, I mean, you've
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: had a great career. You got four downs to score touchdowns.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: All right, we in the red zone.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: See, my guy, he already knows.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: First down. All right.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Funniest person who deserves more recognition?
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's a great question.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we come up with great questions.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: That is a really good question.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Let's talk to Brendan Carter.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: I'm going to say Regina Hall. I think Regina Hall
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: is a comedic genius as an actress.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: Had she been born with white skin, she would have
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: had 20, 30 more movie opportunities than she's had. I
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: think she's brilliant. She was brilliant. Me and my wife
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: just watched a show with her, Five Night Weekend or
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: something like that. Very girly pop show. I was being
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: a good husband. She was brilliant as a dramatic actress.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Watching the show made you a good husband.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I was locked in. Sometimes you gotta just lock
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: in on the show your wife watches.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: We watched Love Island Reunion yesterday.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: I was right there for that.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: That's at least three rounds of golf for me.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: That's how it works.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: You got to trade. You got to trade.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: But yeah, Regina Hall is, she was so funny in
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: the thing like the man interviews for the press conference. Man,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: that's one of the funniest bits ever. But yeah, I
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: would say Regina Hall. Yeah, she's just brilliant. She's good
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: friends with a crush of mine.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I know who it is. No, you don't. S.L. How
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: do you know? I'm Chris Spencer. Go to secondary. That's
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: what I do for a living. Flag on the plate.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Jumped off. Flag on the plate.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: Jumped off.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: Second question, man. Lesson you wish you knew at 25.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: At 25, I wish I knew that I was already
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: on the right path. I think I thought there was
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: a certain way you have to do things.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: You got to move to LA. You got to do this.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: You got to do that.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: I didn't realize that everything that was happening in my
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: life was important for the trajectory of my life. So
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: in 25, I was in Washington just doing plays, doing stand-up,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: things like that.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: And I was just like, man, I'm not making it.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. All those things. But at that time,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: I already was doing it. I was already building my thing.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: And I was just like, I'm not going to be
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: able to make it unless I move to LA or
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: New York or Atlanta. But I was already building my pathway.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: So the blueprint that you thought There's no blueprint.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: The path that I'm on, I can't point to somebody
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: who's 20 years ahead of me who's walked this path.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: Because of the internet, it kind of shook the traditional path.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: When I was watching stand-ups, you had to get A
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: late night show on Carson, you know, that was going
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: to do it. Or if you were black, it was
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: Comic View, you know, Def Comedy Jam, that was going
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: to do it. Outside of that, I don't know how
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: you got a TV role or movie. For a stand-up, like,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: everybody I watch, Bernie and Chris Tucker and Martin, they
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: all had a stand-up set you could point to, like, oh,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: that's probably why he got that movie. So if you
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: can't get on those shows, I don't know what to
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: tell you. Like, I don't know how you get a
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: show built around you. You know, Chris Rock, like, They
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: were killing. So for me, it was like, now I
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: want to be somebody that you can point to, okay,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: Kev on stage did this, this, that, and that, and
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: I can do that. But, you know, at 25, I
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: didn't see that, but I was still on the right path.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: Kev, it's third down. You haven't gotten to the end
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: zone just yet. What haven't you done yet that you
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: would be excited to do?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: I haven't done a big budget movie or TV show. Like,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Huge budget.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: No, no, I'm just saying, yeah. Not those $ 800 checks.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. I would love to see what it's like
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: to do things. Because the thing is, the less money
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: you have, the harder it is for everybody. The more
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: money a budget has, the less roles any individual person
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: has to do. When you're on my level, you might...
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: My brother-in-law works with me. He'll plan to travel, pick
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: up the crafty, arrange the thing, and then he might
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: have to be in a sketch.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Like, hey, Greg, can you play the bouncer? No problem.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: You know, when you're on that Disney set I was
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: talking about, all you do is push this dolly forward
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: and back all day long.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: You don't even touch nothing.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Not allowed to touch nothing.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Union rules. If you ain't on the grip team, you
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: can't unplug that light.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: You have to call radio for somebody on that with
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: the right union to unplug that light. And they will
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: go to blows over you touching that thing. It's like
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: legal ramifications, all that type of stuff. And they be
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: having a good lunch, too. And they be having pass-arounds,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: hot food. They have fried chicken in New Orleans.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: You ain't missing none of that, huh?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: I am missing that. That's what I want.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: Got you.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: Got you.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: All right. Kev, fourth down. All right.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: You haven't gotten in the end zone yet. You're inching
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: in there. You're inching in there. You know what I mean?
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: You want Marshawn Lynch.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: I'm fair.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: On the first carry, you didn't get in there.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: Fourth down.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: That's your team too, right?
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: That's my team. To this day, I don't understand.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Nobody in the world does.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Hand him the ball. If we go, if he gets
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: stopped every time, I could live with it. Hater. Why
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: y'all don't just hand it to him again? You on
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: the one yard line.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: Fourth down, Kev. All right. What's the next version of
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Kevin Fredericks? Oh, my God.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Y'all are killing it.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: My next version, I would love to be at a
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: point in my career where I could Take an idea
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: and a concept from somebody who's brilliant in Mississippi or
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: South Carolina. And because of my connections, clout, access to resources,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: I can say that's a brilliant movie.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: I want to make that.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: KevOnStage presents this person's movie. I can cast it, produce it,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: and it become a success. I want to be big
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: enough that I don't have to be in it, but
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: my name carries enough weight that it'll get it made.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: So you'll call the shots, because you wear so many
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: hats right now. So you want to just almost kind
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: of like wear one hat.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: After stand-up, the thing I like the most is creating
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: opportunities for other people.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: And there's so many talented black people out there who
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: don't have access to Los Angeles or the resources or whatever.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: And I think when I get to that phase of
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: my career where it's like, okay, we got this to Kev.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: He wants to produce this. He's going to cast X, Y,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: and Z or whoever. And it's successful, whatever that means,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: because it might not be box office by that time.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: It might be views.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: Whatever success is.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: Whatever successful is, I would love to be that, to
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: have that much weight with what I do.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: Shot caller.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Tell people where they can find you.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: You can find me everywhere. KevOnStage.com. Except TikTok, somebody stole
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: KevOnStage from me. So it's KevOnStage TikTok. I don't know
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: how they did it.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: Cheyenne Bryant, give them back KevOnStage. And they probably want
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: you to buy it. Yeah.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. It's not worth it to me.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: On Tubi, you can see two seasons of Safe Space
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: right now, the Ball Brothers show, some podcasts. And this fall,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: the airport will be on Tubi. I'm very excited about that.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: And then February, Grief Sucks will be on Tubi.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: Churchy.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: And Churchy is on Paramount +. You can watch two
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: seasons of that on Paramount +.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's enough.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Black people improv?
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  Speaker 5: Black people don't do improv will be on Tubi soon.
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  Speaker 5: It's on there a little bit on there now. Yeah,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: black people don't do improv.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't get to talk about your huge Tubi deal.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Tell us a quick little snippet about that.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Tubi. Yeah, Tubi.
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  Speaker 5: I have the blessing and privilege of signing the most
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  Speaker 5: expansive creator partnership in Tubi's history.
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  Speaker 2: Three years, six projects.
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  Speaker 5: How much?
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: Two features. You know, God is amazing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: It's enough that I don't have to pay for it myself,
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  Speaker 5: which is what I was doing in the past. I
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: maintain creative control over the projects, still own them. It's
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: licensed to 2B, and I have back-end participation on those.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: So that sort of deal didn't exist in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 3: They paying him a lot. He wearing a shirt with
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: some holes in it. It cost about $ 500. Ain't no
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: way my grandma would... Grandma, can you buy me this?
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  Speaker 2: You can't buy a holey shirt. You can't have earrings.
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  Speaker 2: Grandma was strict, man. What?
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  Speaker 1: Boy, was she. This has been Get to the Point
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• 1:08:57
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  Speaker 1: Frederick Bryant III